DUPLEX STEAM engine with ALL HAZMAT! | Derail Valley Career Ep. 29
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- Опубликовано: 4 мар 2024
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30:02 okay I need to see this German hi-vis standing in the gauge video, anyone have a link or title I can search?
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Yikes!
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Yeah see people tell me that knuckles are stupid and buffer and chain is better and then you see shit like that... lol!@@cemmy410
@@Hyce777instead of getting PTSD, with knuckles if that happens, youll just cease to exist. Much easier way.
In the dead of night, a blue cockatoo drives a 4-4-4-4 and BLOWS UP THE ENTIRE RAIL NETWORK AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!!!!!!
Indeed he does. Hes the best(worst) railroader ive ever seen!
His logo is a Hyacinth macaw. Hence the name: Hyce
2-4-4-2 loco, there is a single axle front and back which gives it a bit more adhesion than the 4-4-4-4 as discussed somewhere between 38 and 42mins
Would like it
@@ProtonTheProtogen good
T1 S282 be like: IMMA HAUL A L L O F N E B R A S K A
Averige duplex experience
It’s a great locomotive. You just need to always run it hooked up because otherwise it will slip forever.
@@michaelimbesi2314 the front set of drivers will be flat by the time you get to where you're going
Hyce: we havent heard kenosha play at all this episode
Kenosha: starts playing as he says it
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Hyce: "Omg. We can get out of debt!"
Me: *hyped to see it, hopefully more licenses soon*
Hyce: *Runs to Duplex, whips out Lighter*
Me: "SON OF A-"
LOL
"The Pennsylvania Railroad would like to know your location." Idk man, with this performance I think you're more along the lines of Penn Central
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It was only a matter of time till he found you on railroader. The debt must be paid!
What a Chad you are, Mr. John Doe. Thank you for your service.
Thanks again for the kind words Hyce!
-36:15-- The fire temp went down because you put more coal in the firebox: In Derail Valley, adding coal makes the fire temporarily cool down, then heat back up once the coal starts burning. The effect is more pronounced if you add more coal at once.- Never mind, this is completely wrong: I must have misread the fire temp gauge. Adding coal does not negatively affect the fire temp.
BTW the S282's superheat simulation means that the temperature of the steam in the cylinders is the same as the temperature of the firebox. So a hotter fire equals a more efficient engine, and the degree of superheat can be read with the fire temp gauge. (hmm, maybe I should make the rear cylinders of the duplex use cooler steam...)
41:26 it's Franklin type B2 valve gear. There are minor differences between Caprotti, Lentz, and Franklin, but they're pretty similar; the main difference is that Caprotti is Italian, Lentz is Austrian, and Franklin is American lol. So if you see an American engine with rotary valve gear, it's probably Franklin; if you see a British or European locomotive with rotary valve gear, it's probably Caprotti or Lentz.
Cool to see they actual sim that. The steam temp matching fire temp.... well, that's a little silly but it gets the idea close to right. :D
And thank you for clarifying the valve gear! :D
you should only consider haveing the rear cylinders use cooler steam if the duplex is compounding rather then being simple (ie, is the steam going from one set to the other? or are both drawing steam from the steam chest? if the former then maybe do it, if the latter then defiantly don't do it)
@@themanformerlyknownascomme777 the duplex is simple, but the steam has to go significantly further for the rear cylinders and might cool down a bit on the way.
Note that the steam goes to the rear cylinders by pipes that run outside the boiler, so on the duplex you can't rely on the boiler keeping all that steam super hot.
To be honest, I'm not sure if I'll simulate it; seems like all it would do is make the rear engine use a little more steam for the same power, and the duplex already uses plenty of steam
@satiric_ still, it seems largely superficial so it's probably best not to bother with it.
I like the "we could be out of debt..." and then like something possesed the hyce, he emediately turns around and sprints to blow something up.
My friend and I, playing American Truck Simulator, have truly taken after Hyce in our operations. We make sure to deliver cargo quickly by going 96 in a 55 mph speed limit, running red lights in hilarious ways that confuse the game into not giving you a ticket, and it's overall a good time. My friend is now proud of the 41 collisions with other vehicles he's had. ES&D operations work people 💪
*JEREMY CLARKSON VOICE*
Next week on Hyce's channel
MARK blows up a duplex, plunging the ES&D into further debt.
The ES&D and SDS go into receivership.
Also, there will be a random choo-choo video sometime, and a small zoomy boi will be made on steam.
Pro tip: with the duplex, you often don’t need the bar wide open to get moving, since as long as the engines aren’t synced up, there’ll usually be at least one cylinder getting steam at any given time. It’s also why it does fairly well on hills as long as it doesn’t break traction.
You can use the "Throttle Up" and "Throttle Down" hotkeys to run the handcar, but you still need to alternate them like you're pumping the handle. (I think that's T and G respectively off the top of my head."
It is
There is a mod for an auxiliary water tender for the 2-8-2, it is really nice running long, heavier trains longer distances.
Side note SOMEONE PLEASE make a mod for a larger tender like a 6 axle one or something for the steam engine.
Well yes, but actually no. There IS an Aux tender, but it's a custom car, and CCL was broken with the launch of Build 98
"I wager my money on the bob-tail nag, somebody bet on the bay"
Blazing Saddles rocks.
Hyce lines up perfect shot of kittuh and locomotive in shot. Kittuh wanders off just as he's about to take pic. Hyce discovers DV has incorporated realistic feline physics
Also wondering about what appears to be empty vodka bottles in the upper level of the station.
6:36 you can get the handcart so fast that it derails in a 50 zone. The key is to start going a bit out of phase with the levers - precede the forces that should logically be applied and she'll be one speedy gal. Fastest I got her going had me applying forces 180° out of phase
another good vanilla-like mod would be booklet organiser, it just makes the job booklets spawn an a grid rather than just pilled up
Booklet organizer is great, its funny to see the harbor's table perfectly covered in the dozens of jobs that spawn there
thinking back to your Railroader video where you explained that you never say "stop" when operating a train, this was a great example of what happens when you do yell "stop". Great video!
Just yesterday I got the DE2 at a little over Max tonnage and pulled it into Machine Factory and Town. Had 2 jobs. And only started playing yesterday. When I actually made up the hill I felt like I was on top of the world.
East bound and down, loaded up and truckin'.
We're gonna do what they say can't be done.
We got a long way to go, and a short time to get there.
I'm eastbound, just watch ol' Bandit run!
Smokey and the Bandit Reference lol
Can’t wait for Hyce to be just wandering around and accidentally find a 4-8-8-4 😃
thats the big boy arrangement right?
Yep
@@Cat_From_The_backRooms oh god how the Eff will that fit on such a small frame?
@@YoLo-bb2vcEither
A: make the Drive wheels smaller
B: STRETCH THE HELL OUTTA THE FRAME
@@TSMThunderbolt god to get the BB arrangement the wheels would have to be smaller than the smallest narrow gauge ones lol youd probably not be fooled in thinking they would belong on a toddler car lol
2 hour hyce derail valley vid... you gotta love what is the holiest that youtube has to offer
Something I wanna see in DR is jobs that are split between two locations. Like you have to stop somewhere and pick up a 2nd or 3rd cut of cars to deliver to a final destination
The duplexes are great. I pulled 2.5k tons of scrap steel out of the harbor to the steel mill. Had to hit the hill at 50 and take the shallower left hand track at the junction after the initial climb out and was on the sand the whole time. Went down to like 4 kmh for a bit, but it made it.
Hyce: Spends the entire episode desperately trying not to blow up his train.
Also Hyce: Blows up his train at the first opportunity.
I seriously wonder how you manage to keep your insurance in this game at all.
[cat claws into a scratching post] Good hitch, stretch 'em! Ooooh, _beeg stretch!_
I’m not giving you lip, Hyce… I’m giving you the stick figure meme where the guy has a sad face and is poking something on the ground, saying “come on… Kenosha!”
And here I thought we got through all the chaos and were going to escape without Kenosha..... I should know better. This is Hyce. #kenoshaforever
PS. and my lantern is gold!!!!! :)
Yes! :D
"So we dumped it a little aggressively."
TIL turning your locomotive and consist of explodey bois into a massive chain of sleds is just a little aggressive.
The brake shoes glowing red at 47:20 is a really nice touch, although in real life, the brakes would have lost their grip long before glowing red. Regardless, it's nice to see some attention to detail.
Correct. if you got the shoes glowing hot they would've melted everywhere first. lol. it's their way to show it off. it works.
The 4-4-4-4 rail grinder.
When you hear things go Bump and Bang in the night. No thats not adult stuff happening...
That's just hyce blowing up the boys. 😂
Now that is some precision railroading. Time bonus achieved, arrived with no water and had just enough coal left for some kenosha. Perfect.
A day late, but:
Regarding the sleep in the beginning, as long as you have the job cards in hand, they don't (shouldn't) despawn. You could travel the entire map doing jobs from other locations, but the job cards in hand should be persistent.
In a similar vein, pretty sure cars from abandoned jobs (wrecked or just abandoned) are persistent once taken unless you actually throw the job book in the trash can. Throwing on the ground just returns to lost and found, but trash can will actually clear them. (Not entirely sure about wrecked cars, but I think they clear when the job is trashed.)
If you really want to reroll the jobs given at a location, trashing every job on the table before leaving is a good way to make sure everything gets refreshed. (Note: DO NOT do this IRL.)
Coal in the hole: ❌
Rocks in the box: ✅
Again! Keyboard controls with T and G! Its your throttle on normal locos and it works on the hand car too!
When you are coupling cars, don't pull the brake right before you *BANG* because you will come to a dead stop after transferring your momentum. If you are going to *BANG*, be confident about it and follow through. Then, you might just be able to hook before the cars separate.
One of the best episodes yet! well worth the wait lol. Sometimes it's best when (most) things go as planned 😂
1:45:23 “There will be no Kenosha vibes! Yay!” -Hyce
“BRO IS TALKING SH*T KENOSHA IS RIGHT BEHIND YOUR BACK LMFAO”
-Me 2005-2024
Today I never thought a duplex mod would be in derail valley. They really overcooked this one with the valve gear!
Duplex mod...and cat!
this is why we love Hyce
Fun fact: in one of the industries you can interact with the couch to pass time through the wall behind the table that holds the contracts.
The cat was the best part of this video.
Finally! New DV content.
I've found the auto fireman mod to be a great help.
It's also much harder to lose pressure, run out of water and coal.
I have it set to only have the firebox about 20% filled and it's served me well
I get mad skoomu vibes with this loco
Warning: This comment ended up way, way longer than I was expecting.
I just bought the game earlier today and have been having a lot of fun with it so far :)
I've tried one silly switching thing so far, which was trying to put the back job of 3 in front of the 2 DE2s by doing something kind of like a dutch drop on the entrance to the Harbor because the front and back jobs both had to go to the E yard and the middle one had to go to the D yard. However, it went horribly wrong (as expected).
I had the front section go to the right (towards the military area), and thought I had left the back part with enough speed to make it past, but apparently it just barely wasn't enough, and the back car stopped on the switch. So I decided to decouple the engines from the front section and move them around the triangle to pull them just a bit forwards to clear the switch, not realizing that the military yard has a gate that's closed without the license for it. So the front engine crashed into the gate at a decently high speed (luckily not derailing, just taking 50% damage), and there wasn't enough space on that side of the switch to be able to flip it to go around as I was planning, so I had both of my engines stuck, one partially damaged, completely blocked in by the other set of cars without an engine.
I tried pushing them with the handcar, just in case it worked somehow, but the handcar can't push 450 tons of train, unsurprisingly. So I explored the harbor, and found a third DE2 after about 5 minutes of looking (it's really easy to get lost, I've learned). I was able to use that to get everything unstuck, then left it in the D yard just in case my second dutch drop attempt failed. Then I tried to dutch drop the D yard cars all the way from the main track to the yard while trying to kick the set of cars that was now in front of the engine into their track in the E yard. The first time I forgot the switch and everything ended up on the D yard track, but I was able to just reverse and try again. And it almost worked, but yet again I didn't give that set of cars enough speed, so they stopped halfway to the D yard. Luckily, I had that extra engine waiting for it! Yay for thinking ahead :)
Putting the last two jobs on the E yard track went pretty smoothly after that, so I finally turned in the jobs, 15 minutes after the time bonus (it should've been easy, I barely had any licenses unlocked, so the time bonus was still very long). Somehow still made a profit though.
And since then, I've been running very heavy trains with all three DE2s around the harbor and steel mill, including two in the rain that I was very close to getting stuck on the hill out of the harbor on. I managed to use all of the sand from full just to get to the steel mill from the harbor, but it just barely made it. I've had one derailment so far, and I still have no idea what happened, because just the 4th, 3rd, and 2nd to last cars, but not the very last one, derailed at the entrance to the harbor (apparently that place is dangerous). Except for the cars just behind those that were disconnected, which was another failed dutch drop attempt, that never even made it to the switch because they were going so slow they stopped at the bottom of the hill. The rest of that job went fine though, and I got the time bonus still somehow.
I hope I got the terms I used in that comment correct... Anyway, I just felt like sharing my first experience with the game. I'll get back to watching the video now :)
30:02 LOL Everytime that video comes up or its get repostet on Reddit it seems everybody thinks thats how we Couple on the regular. And then the Discussion "why no Knuckles?" start...
Thank you for your videos and everything you do to entertain us. You helped me to get threw a hard time of sickness, so i just wanted to say: Thank you Hyce!
45:30 when that happened to me I also just kept going the other route to FF.
Though breaking down to 50 to make that corner gave me a scare.
The first ES&D employee to derail this handcar gets $10, a piss cup, and a pack of beer. May the best fool win.
1:17:40 hyce finally using the full range of that comms radio
Wonderful job timing the Kenosha at the end there :)
Possibly one of my favourite episodes of this series Hyce :)
Wow, I've never heard of anyone switching with a fireless duplex before!
lmao
1:45:10. I like how as soon as he said Kanosha wont didn't play Kanosha started playing
so the up arrow/down arrow under a speed sign indicates a 20KPH+ change in limit at the next sign. I usually read it as 60 into 40 etc.
Remember when the video started and Hyce said he wanted to drive in the daylight? Welp.
I find it funny that it exploded in C4 🤣
Aw, those poor trains!
EDIT: Hyce, this is episode 30! There were two episode 26s.
Hi ! The locomotive is just so cool !! For the handcar, you can may test to push it with a train or launch it in a downhill to see if it can derail !
That coupling vid though...omg. Video idea:: Steam boi in the front>heavy consist, multi job, one location>DE6/slug>another heavy consist, multi job, different location. Hot drop and shunt one while the other rolls on, try and catch the roller after finishing first yobs.
Camptown Races: 'Camptown ladies sing this song, doo da doo da | Camptown racetrack five miles long, oh the doo da dey. | Gonna run all night | Gonna run all day. | Bet my money on the bobtail nag | Somebody bet on the bay.' The actual song is full feature length, but this is what we all know as kids. This snippet also ignores two whole verses before the run all night bit.
Hyce writes a childrens book: 'Toot toot, goes the tiniest little Doot!'
Can you feed the cat?
Wow gold plated water 😳 $$$$
Very good to see you playing on the knives edge, is making the trip more interesting 🤔 😊 👍🍷🍾🍺🍻
when i first found the cat in vr, i swear to god, I was trying to pet it for a solid 40 minutes
Super independent Fluffles nearly halted all Operations today because of ES&D shenanigans. But he decided Tonnage First Safety Last and gave the crew the go ahead to Kenosha their train if necessary.
"The fire temps pegged, maybe the water comes back, maybe we cthulu"
*Proceeeds to not use damper*
Imagine being a Yard manager in Derail valley and watching Hyce just high ball through a yard.
A duplex basically has the same amount of wheels as a 2-8-4 but since it splits the 8 driving wheels into a 4-4 it ends up with a 2-4-4-4 also having more power as a result of the extra pistons.
Nice Blazing Saddles reference!
Nouuu~ 😆At least get them passenger licences before you blow up into another 50mil debt xD
Great to see some more Derail Valley.
I’ve gotten the hand card to do 160 I was racing a DE6 notch 10 and out ran it no problem, but you have to be really in sync with your scroll wheel
The concept of the Duplex is truly fascinating, sure the Pennslyvania Railroad definitely drank too much whiskey when it came to the wheel arrangements, I'm curious to see how well the T1 Trust, once they complete PRR 5550, how well they can control the wheelslip. And as you probably know about the PRR's Duplexs the Q2 4-4-6-4 Duplex was a water hog
I love how similar our play style is, throw jobs on floor, trash office, pet kitty cat. Is this the meta?
Also I tried a spicy dunk in the military base and blew the harbour to smithereens, the boyz got nothing on what I can only assume is nuclear warheads. Edit. It wasn't a spicy dunk it was a third person couple without compressing the cars and they jerked together and went kaboom
Lots of clutch saves thru the vid but at the end we want out in a good bang. XD
you dont even need to be looking at the bar to crank the hamdcart also it can be yeeted off some surpringly highspeed turns if your good with it
You guys at the museum need to let us run a hand car around the yard!! I really want to do that! Or get one of the speedsters running and have speedster days!!
I WAS WAITING FOR THIS VID WHEN IS SAW THE MOD UPDATE
You can bail the engine, just there is no in cab control for it. I do it all the time on the standard difficulty
9 days is a quite small eternity 😅
Thank you 😊
Hyce the BE2 works with the remote control. Which you have!
1:46:30 The Pennsylvania Railroad destroying the last duplex 1953 colorized.
EDIT: timestamp
Hope he makes another of these
I just went to the national RR museum in Green Bay and they do have a Big Boy on display. 4017 I believe
Obviously non operational but you can go in the cab. Lot of neat trains there. Even the Dwight D. Eisenhower A4 is there with some cabs. Loved going there
An engineers bucket list: don’t derail, do well, don’t do funny things like crash.
Hyce: try not to derail on purpose, try not to shet yourself and don’t crash the game to the point you can’t run it anymore.
Today,Hyde drives a duplex and blows it up and replaces it with a Penn Central locomotive! Muahahahaha!
"it feels like its been an eternity" yes hyce, that is right. It has been an eternity. Anyways, A NEW VIDEO LETS GOOOOOOOOO
I don’t know how much you can move with it but I have heard of some people moving cars in derail valley using the handcar
The duplex is best for passenger jobs. Speedy Boi get peeps where need go.
The Oregon Coast Scenic has an operational 2-4-4-2
26:16 - Well the little one is among others used to shove ICE 1s with (in their original setup) close to 800 tons of mass in the shop. So yes it does pack a punch ☺️ Should you be interested, I can translate the description of the notches from German Wikipedia (I'm not trained on the class, so I don't professionally know the details). It's an interesting nine notch setup with only 3, 6 and 9 suitable for constant use and they work by having different setups of parallel or serial motors **and** battery cells. Clever simple layout.
30:07 - Not that a whole lot of shunters would care, but in recent years it has been banned to wait between the buffers. Now you have to wait outside till contact is made and then climb in-between (and there you have the reason why so many don't care, obviously 😂)
33:40 - "Bad practice" as in "ripping the wheelset out its bearing bad practice", yes 😝 Though you can get away with it in modern electric traction since asynchronous three phase engines don't get stupid fast when spinning.
36:50 - So in short; you have to use pressure to get pressure 😄 Sounds counterintuitive at first glance, but obviously it makes sense with the draft.
43:50 - Oh I hate killer switches … there's one junction where you are allowed to run at 130 km/h through the switches in the diverging section. You can, too, it is safe - but after that I wouldn't recommend ordering a coffee from the restaurant coach as the train driver, you can assume both the gastro personnel and the conductor/guard bringing it to the loco will spit in it =P You really don't want to take it at more than 115 km/h unless you're empty stock.
1:02:00 - With all that slippery when wet business and sand and such; is my reasoning correct that under slippery conditions you might be better off with a high cutoff and low throttle, resulting in a lower peak force and thus lower chance of breaking loose from the static friction? Or is the whole steam expansion thing evening the resulting force out more than I think?
1:11:00 - You could always sleep on the couch in the station office next to you so it gets light again 😄
1:20:10 - That's the release times we work with over here 😄 45 to 60 seconds release time from a full service brake (! not from dumped) in the brake setting used in goods trains 😁
1:39:50 - That does look like a decent choo choo now 👍
1:45:30 - Yepp, really enjoyable episode 🥰
Yeah I suppose climbing in between isn't so much fun either. I see. 130 km/h through a switch must be a long switch!
In my experience, higher cutoff and lower throttle is better in slick conditions. Likely for that reason.
@@Hyce777 Yes, but not as long as it should but the feels of it 😄 Though in seriousness I guess it's something with the gradient of curvature change that's wrong there and makes it so unpleasant. We have way faster turnovers, too, for 200 km/h in the diverging track, in France and Spain there are even some for 220.
for some reason I never realized a duplex was two engines in one, I just always figured they were one, but just piped differently
Will this man EVER get out of, and STAY out of debt long enough to finish career? The world may never know.
FINALLY THE LANTERNS HAVE BEEN RETRIEVED PRAISE KANOSHA
The open water hatch during rain should provide a 0.1% efficient on water
19:15 dose 20s make a cute little chuff when the bar is at that close point to center
skookum wheel arrangement go brrr
Thanks to the PRR for lending the ES&D a Duplex
9:10 starts shunting
18:16 useful information i cant summarise 22:10 end of lesson with hyce, also note the front engine can slip esayer as theres less weight wich makes the wheels out of sink.
Hyce i would love a video on that little shunting engine
30:45 starts the journey, up a hill
42:00 flat part, slowed to pass sawmill, he gose into the wrong switch
51:00 going through the yard (and trying to find the right setting for more traction, gets speed then slows down and soon loses water