Derail Valley - How Shunting Works
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
- Thought I'd make a quick video demonstrating how shunting works. It's a valuable skill to learn and helps you master the yard.
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On the DE2, every time you start the engine it does 1% damage. The cost of repairing that is roughly equal to the cost of diesel consumed while the engine is idling for nine minutes. It's been a while since I did the test but I think the numbers are correct.
What is de2
@@nightSkyacc It's the little shunter
@@Aristoprat The overheater as i call it :))
One trick i use is to pop the train pipe valve on the last car as this will apply the brakes. Another trick is to close the train pipe valves between cars and hump them. Get going at a good clip, shut the valve on the cars i want to roll into the sidings, pop the coupler and then ride the cars that split to dump the air when I want them to stop. Can be useful when sending cars in diverging directions on some yards. If done right you can jump down and close the valve while only partially slowing down the train to get a gap big enough to throw a switch, ride the split cars into the siding popping the valve to put on their brakes the jump back on the engine going down the other siding.
Extremely useful when building large trains.
This dude knows how to Train.
All job numbers on paperwork are on side of the cars as well, so you don't actually have to visually check the cars, you can also see the job number on them and see if they are the right ones
And you can even move those cars to the loading track before taking the job 😋
Did anyone else notice that the shunting job he did is the train he took to The Goods Factory and Town in the last video.
I noticed that too.. I watched the videos back to back though
Didn't he literally say it was the same train
yep i noticed it
Another time-saver is to "kick" cars when shunting, i.e. giving them a shove with the engine and letting them roll on their own into the siding.
The way you do it is by shutting the brake valves on the cut of cars you want to kick and the engine so the air doesn't rush out and apply the brakes. Then you undo the screw link on the coupling (you can uncouple it all the way, but in Derail Valley, the coupling will automatically slip off and the brake hoses will part on their own when the cars separate). You get in the loco, build up some speed then apply the independent brake and let the cars roll away.
It takes practice, shove them too hard/too fast, you risk slamming the cut into a row of parked wagons on the siding and damaging them, too soft/too slow, they won't go far enough and can block the points to other sidings.
One method I like to do is to ride the cut of cars I'm kicking and use the brake valves to let puffs of air out of the train line to apply the brakes so the cars stop where I want them to. It's an old railroader's trick.
12:00 - The devs couldn't have predicted which side of the consist you will pull the train up to, so they couldn't effectively label the steps correctly. It's something you have to pay attention to.
isnt it more conventional to shut with the beds infront of the engine though?
The Devs predicted that you will still be attached to the consist when you took the job to move it from the steel mill (same consist he did in the last video he uploaded), bring it forward to the shunting track, then reverse it into C-section, empty, then take the short cut through the loop, and then remove the back part first, then the first part after. But Squirrel shunted the engin to the back of the consist, having him to do it the opposite way!
To reach shunting time bonuses easier my advice is to not just move your locomotive to not just park it near them before starting the job but to also move the cars to the loading line at the station.
This will be harder for stations with 2 loading lines like one for liquids and another for everything else, my advice is to just use context clues (what are you moving, basically).
Another few bits of SUPER helpful advice:
-Turning off the Shunter (and also the DE6) before you exit is a waste of engine durability (~1% each startup) and may cost you money in the long-term.
So basically: Don’t always turn off the shunter when you leave it.
-Independent Brakes exist now, I’ve found the Independent Brake useful for shunting jobs especially, stopping over a long distance, stopping in a short distance, needing to reduce downhill speed without losing air pressure in your brakes, my point is: Independent is a very useful part of all the locomotives, using it over train brakes can be more beneficial.
Summarized: I’ve found the Independent Brake more useful than Train Brakes more times than not.
-Don’t throw the throttle full-on. In the early game you can get away with doing things like this and damaging both cargo and wagon, which will make you have to pay off the fine for the damage. Basically: it’s better to be slow and steady, especially with the later game stuff.
With a shunter a throttle set at the first increment will give you ~10km, 2nd increment 20km, 3rd 30km, increasing throttle past that will heat up the engine and waste way more fuel than if you took it slow.
Summarized: Take it slower, rushing can and will make things worse.
At first I thought it was a novelty game but wow this game is deep, really gives you insight on what it’s like working on the railways. I wish they do a UK version with class 08s and 66s plus signals and other trains to wait for etc add some dynamic weather and background noises this is the future of train simulation.
Once their is mod support, people can make their own loco's.
sir is Ghost Riding the train standard operating procedure? surely OSEA will have something to say about this
It will be great when they have mod support for locomotives.
actually dynamic weather for the UK version is easy, it will just change from rain to rain. You can be glad the UK verion only needs difrent lokomotives, german version will also make diffrent language evrywhere.
You don't have to "guess" which cars will be in your job. The JOB NO. is written on each car.
I can't believe this only has 17K views 1 day after upload. Deserves way more!
Can't wait to see the longer train next episode. Eventually really long trains with having more licences.
I like it when I read a random comment on a video and see the poster do a whole video on the subject. that's content worth subbin for.
Come on squirrel you will get to 1 mill subs
Looking forward to the big harbor haul video.
Me too
If you look at the job ID, in this case "GF-SU-62", you can match that up with the placard on the rail cars. That way, you can be certain of which cars you will need before validating your job.
I think the two empty car logistical hauls might've been the jobs that were created off of the shunting job.
Yes
The steel is the steel you hauled in the last video
I have to say that this is the only sim that is just as frustrating as shunting in real life. You forget your radio somewhere, lose your maps and documents, end up shunting to the wrong track.
this game is sooo good and it has so much potential, better than TS 2020 (which is just Railworks 2009 in disguise) for sure.
They are literally the same game, not even in disguise. Every year they just update the game, slightly, and then rename it to the corresponding year.
@@mtw227 Yes...and the prices are ridiculous. I mean , TS 2020 is 25£ ( the base game) with 4 routes and a few trains and some DLCs are at the same price and some even higher...and for what? The only new thing they added is the ability to open windows on locomotives 😂.
I have the game but due to a lack of RAM I can't play it much at the moment, so I'm quite enjoying watching you and Colonel Failure play it. Keep it up 👍
I would like to see you hook up as many shunters to the biggest combo load you can ! I've seen a guy use the remote and two shunters to haul 833ton hazard and it was kinda cool . thank you for your videos !
Thanks for these Derail Valley videos.
I'll be getting this in a day or two, it looks like a ton of fun :)
6:06 All the mass wanting to go further :)
7:53 Nice!
8:54 You're right...
9:40 LOL that was close!
10:17 Playing in VR makes it a little easier actually, which is great :)
19:08 Nice pun! :D
Quickly hopping in here because I now got my first shunting jobs after just doing freight hauls for a while and the origin trainyard on the job sheet had me confused - I picked up one that has the one listed where I'm currently at and another in the second line and I was unalbe to find the cars. Now I know why, they most probably are at the other station then. But I'll keep that job and start it over there then.
when you do a shunting job, it will create another job but only if you couple cars together... but what you did you separated them and they were empty, so it doesn't always create another job
To have a new freight haul job be created you need to do a shunting load job, you did a shunting unload job.
It seems it created 2 jobs with empty cars.
@@kempo_95 Yeah, after giving it some thought a logistic haul could could be created from a shunt unload; I was wrong.
While Loading/Unloading, you don't need to be lined up with the crane. It will register as long as the carriages are clear of the junctions.
Amazing videos!
Please show us more shunting!
This is awesome Please keep making such wonderful Videos
that would be grating It is grate to learn how shunting works on derail valley and I will see you in the next one
You don't have to guess which train it is.... on the job sheet is a train number, you can find this number on the wagons...so you don't have to count or guess. I just tried it once, because I just got back into the train....
I know its late but did you make the video on how to take the two jobs at once? i'd like to see that
oh wow, how different the game looks now!
Easiest way to get 50% bonus on shunting jobs is to get the cars ready for unloading before you start the job. Then you have lots of extra time to worry about multiple drop offs.
Constantly starting and stopping the motor actually wastes more fuel and puts more wear on the locomotives motor. They did add that mechanic in the game at it says so right in the basic manual in the game. Just FYI.
On the job booklet some steps are multi-page, just like Step 3 was on page 5 and 6 for your shunting job. It seems to me to mean that the parts of that step can be done in any order so I don't think there is a problem with the game.
Sometimes there is a switch that uses a spring to direct cars so it is only open for one way because traffic sully comes that way
I wish Euro truck was like this
I usually use two shunters and get missions to and from Food Factory and Harbor.
hey squirrel great video I love these train videos u do I also loved the omsi bus simulator videos you did to, keep up the amazing and brilliant work and I cant wait for the next video and im getting a gaming pc soon so maybe I could get derail valley and maybe join u one day if you'd like but that's up to you to think about for a future date, keep up the amazing and brilliant work and cya soon.
look in top right corner that set of letters and numbers is the job and is on the side of car
More snowrunner please
don't be afraid operating loco from roof, good job
awesome enjoying the vids
Wasn't aware of this game, it looks ace, however do you need Steam to purchase it for PC, or can you buy as standalone?
I actually dont mind shunting and appreciate the boosted reward for them plus it opens up more hauling jobs is my understanding?
Yes, they open up more jobs. Unload shunting jobs can create one or more Logistical Haul jobs, while Load shunt jobs create a Freight Haul job.
@@b0bsaget007 Nice, i just took 8 wagons from goods to city sw, then immediately turned around and did shunting job for same mission, then it turned into a decently paying logistics haul to harbor. that's awesome, but i wonder if they stay persistent when you quit and go back on later, or eventually jos/trailers just vanish and reshuffle themselves, etc.
Dirty secret you can connect two locos together facing away from each other and never need to use the round house ever again or worry about if the loco is facing right because one of them will be.
not with the de2s, as the lokomotive going reverse has worse cooling so you would be better of to turn both lokomtives in the right direction.
This guide works for War Thunder too which is helpful!
I like it.
Big fan of your train videos I just pick up derail valley and when loading the game up it gets stuck at 86 % and won’t do nothing
It is the same train you hauled last time
Now i dont know much about these types of things but wouldn't the steps be in order if he had the train on the other side of the carts, that way he even couldve taken the shortcut
No music on the intro sounded deafening
why do you even bother turning on the headlights? I mean, at this point in the early access stages of the game
I think the devs assumed you will connect to the wagons from the other side. Then steps would be correct.
So do you just haul the cars to the location it needs to be lie from hb to ff thenjust do the stuff in the videos? Anyone reply asap
Have you found Old Bob's garage yet?
My summer car please I would respect if you made a new ep of it. Episode 70 is coming
hi paul if you are looking for cars for the job you can find the job number on the information of the cars
Could u plz do more My Summer Car videos
i found the 007 shunter at the sawmill
Is this the same file that you use in ur twitch stream
great video... but you also will need LONG II license as you've got more than 10 cars in two jobs... or maybe i'm wrong... let's see.
Still waiting for the next Job Simulator video......
This was such boring work, and yet it made me buy the game just now.
Please play this in vr
I managed to get out of gas about a 100 meters before the unloading area. since i was broke as hell i couldn't pay for new gas so there i stood. There was no other shunter in the area so i guess f**k me
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can u do a longer vid?pls
Have a look over on Squirrel Plus. Squirrel has hours of DV there.
hi
how do I start a new game please
WE WANT MY SUMMER CAR BACK
No thank you. But I sure would like more flying with co-pilot. And I can't wait for the new MS flight sim.
Once you install a caps lock key you can make requests.
🙄
What happened with the intro?
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Congrats
Sorry to say for me your camera movements are too quick and jarring sorry I could not watch, altho I find digital trains a great idea the graphics are still in the video game stone age, great weathering up close, what is unsettling are some of the scenery features that suddenly appear out of nowhere and others snap into clarity, its rather off putting.
You are right with the graphics, but considering this is early access, it is already fun as hell to play. I don't mind the graphics.
The VR nonsense is so distracting. ._.
lets play, lets play, lets play, we want a lets play of this :D
Ok compare this to train sim when I was at school I loved that game
This is the next best thing to owning a moddle train set NO MESS !
wanting something that's not to insanely hard & doesn't cost a lot this also look's like it has a lot of variety in mission's where as I could see train sim getting a bit tiresome.
On another note you also do Snowrunner & have done Mudrunner I think ?
You should try 2 get in touch with S1DONE he's just done a tip's & trick's vid with the help of another RUclipsr
Just a thought.
More snowrunner please