Comandante C60 Baracuda: The New Heavy-Weight Champion of Manual Coffee Grinders
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- Опубликовано: 5 июн 2024
- All you need to know about the new Comandante C60 Baracuda manual coffee grinder. It’s the third major addition to the Comandante product line after the Comandante C40 Nitro Blade and X25 Trailmaster coffee grinders.
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Timestamps:
00:00 Comandante C60 Baracuda Coffee Grinder
00:51 Comandante C60 Baracuda Unboxing
01:58 Comandante C40 vs C60 vs X25 Comparison
02:23 Comandante C60 Baracuda in Detail
05:32 Comandante C60 vs C40 Comparison (grind setting, sound & grinding speed)
07:35 Who is Comandante C60 Baracuda for?
What's your take on Comandante C60 Baracuda?
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I love my C40, and would like to experience the C60. Yeah, it’s expensive but will last a lifetime. It’s also a wonderful work of engineering and art. Considering that $600 phones, computers, and TVs are disposable, this grinder is a bargain.
At some point, when I have €600 left, I'll buy it.
Yeah, it’s a premium grinder indeed. Hope you will enjoy the video ☕️💙
Yeah, cute, maybe 10 years ago.
@@stefan2901 10 years ago it would be compared to Hario Slim/Skerton or Porlex Mini... that would be quite a step up in terms of quality and price. The standards and expectations are different in 2024 in our opinion.
Big mistake... 90% of the value it's marketing
@@renatoa like any other company 😉
Thank you for your wonderfully full review of all the parts. Love that attention to detail.
What is the difference in grind quality between the three models? Is it the same burr gap when adjusting?
Sounded like it’s practically identical. You probably don’t need to get this if you already have the C40. Personally I might consider it if I ever need another one to use in a different location. I like the idea of a full metal construction
Awesome review. Just order a C60. 😊 Does it really fit more beans that C40? Many sites say 40g capacity for both C40 and C60, but would be nice with a bit bigger capacity for 750ml brews.
Yes, since the internal steel chassis allows for more space around the top of the axle. Pair it with our new large Polymer Bean Jars (coming very soon to a dealer near you!), which have a 200ml capacity, and you can easily grind for those bigger brews in one go... and fast! :D
@@ComandanteGrinder , awesome - can’t wait! 😊 Many thanks
they would need to release another axel with a finer adjustment to make it suitable for espresso grinding, and probably charge us for that additional accessory as well
Grinder DLC
If you had to have just one grinder for espresso, would it be the C40 with the red clix or the C60?
I have two C40’s. One for filter coffee and one with red clix for espresso. Grinding for a single espresso with the C40 red clix is fine. But I’m often making back to back espresso’s and at this point the speed of the C60 would come in handy. I’m actually thinking of giving the C40 to our son and getting the C60 for espresso.
5:45 did you cut your finger adjusting the setting?
Haha, great catch! Not during adjusting grind setting but during cleaning the grinder & burrs before the shoot. It’s just a reminder how sharp it is and how careful we need to be when operating it.
@@EuropeanCoffeeTriptotally unacceptable to have cut fingers for any hand grinder just by adjusting, let alone for the price.
@@julianpark93 as I wrote in the comment, it was when cleaning the grinder and burrs for filming. We simply need to be careful when working with sharp objects (like knives, right).
If i get this right the only argument for the c60 is grind speed? How does this compare to a c40 with the black crank?
As Aleš mentions, the C60 is designed with slightly different use cases in mind and we suggest the C40 as the flagship model to suit all users :).
On the other hand, although it doesn't sound like much, grinding twice as fast is a huge difference to your workflow!
As for the Black Crank, it doesn't increase grind speed (the Baracuda burr is what makes the difference here) but it adds leverage, meaning reduced grinding effort. A Black Crank on the C40 with Nitro Blade (smaller burr, lower resistance) makes grinding incredibly easy work!
Where can I buy this cool coffee grinder?🙏
Hi there, where are you based :)?
@@ComandanteGrinderIn Russia. But I can also use delivery services to the USA, Turkey, UK. In any case, I really want to buy it and am ready to find solutions :)
Interesting. I doubt i will ever get one. Its a little (read: completely) out of my price range in Canada, so unless they reduce their price or release a model less than 300CAD, i doubt i will ever see their products.
That great C60 makes my C40 looks obsolete. LOL!
Still love our C40 and will probably keep using it as a go-to hand grinder in the studio. It’s nice to have options!
@@EuropeanCoffeeTrip You're right! C40 is still a reliable, simple yet pleasing grinder to use.
I see some folks complaining about bottom adjustment. For me this is so direct and practical. So German engineering. LOL!
Unless you need tighter adjustment, you can use the Red Clix.
Why obsolete? Same cup quality but more than double the price.
@@kain4636 Ah it was a joke.
Mine MK-3 has a simpler inner frame comparing to MK-4 or even more to the C60, so it looks "obsolete". LOL
You're right, quality-wise they are the same. Superb! Price-wise yes it is expensive.
But... Look at this grinder... 😍😍😍
I have it and its amazing grinder 🔥 especially for lazy lady like me 😅 i sold all my previous grinders coz they are soooo fucking slowly!
Why didn’t you get an electric grinder for this price? Way better quality and much faster
@@kain4636 no way) with electric grinder you will never have a fresh cups.. How you can grind 7 gr coffe in machine? This 20 coffe beans literally will lost inside of it😁 secondly- I want something portative🔥+ commandante is an investment.. Very reasonable ( especially barakuda)
@@user-ik7ot3nc5i 1. You are wrong: Df or timemore grinder (in this price range) have very little retention. Furthermore better cup quality.
2. 7g of coffee? Do you brew like 80g cups? Lol
3. portative? nearly 1kg 😄 you have better hand grinder and lighter ones for less money
@@kain4636 yes I prefer single Turkish coffee witch is 80 gr for a cup (soy1)
And 1 kg still portative for me especially according size
Anyway I enjoy my choice and would do the same again
I feel like the C40 had character with some of the exotic wood designs. My favorite and the one I originally bought had the zebra wood finish and for that it will always be something special. This C60 is just a hunk of metal without any warmth even though I'm sure, as you stated, probably will outlast our entire lifetime.
They had better wood on mk3 and the quality went downhill with mk4 in my opinion. Everything that KS to some eco friendly bs I guess.
I have a MK3 with walnut wood. And an orange powdercoated MK4. Went for that as I didn’t like the wood options of the MK4. In the end I actually prefer the powdercoated MK4. It’s far more grippy.
@@BenSietze Good to know!
Hello. I am the owner of a C40. Most often I prepare cezve. I'm looking at the C60 and want to buy it. Is it good for cezve?
At finer grind settings with a big burr, a bit more crank torque is required. The grind result is excellent for cezve and with 6-7g for one cup, you'd be finished grinding very quickly :). You might prefer the C40 for reduced crank torque at finer settings though. Perhaps your local coffee roaster/cafe can help let you try one? Thanks for your support!
@@ComandanteGrinder Hello. Thank you very much for your answer. I already bought the C60. I've been using it for 4 days. Yes, it’s harder to grind coffee in Turkish than on C40. But I'm happy. Example; the same grain C40 3 clicks, C60 5 clicks, C 60 fraction is finer and the grinding on C60 is lighter (visible immediately) As for the filter, the difference is very noticeable. On C60 the taste is deeper. I bought the C60 already a new version of Velvet Steel.
$650 for a hand grinder that has no adjustment at the top, no numbers to easily change settings. For the price, I expect more. It seems that the Comandante has fallen behind times, but still charges premium…
Luckily we have 1zpresso which in performance and price has left Comandante way behind.
Which model the
best ?@@dalareid
@@eddyindia7007if you want a replacement for the C40, get one from the K series (that’s what I did). If you want only filter, get ZP6. If you want espresso, look at the J series.
@@dalareid Performance? Only the ZP6 can claim a more uniform distribution, but that grinder isn't as versatile. The Comandante will outlast any 1zpresso with their cheap burr steel and aluminium body.
I'm actually happy with time more, had good run with c40 except wood issue.
When you're the only manufacturer that sticks with the silly bottom adjustment at this ridiculous price point, maybe someone should get a reality check.
Indeed... what are those decision factors from Comandante thinking... surely not engineers...
Maybe that is not a huge problem for most people 🤷♂️
You’re trading some minor convenience for a really nice grind size share-ability. I have tons of grinders, from a c40/60 to an EK43 with pimped out 98HU burrs and I find it easier to communicate grind sizes with friends in c40 click size
Do you have one, or are you just going on with ignorant crap?
I got a c40, and it's excellent, not my only grinder, but it's perfect for what it is for.
@@crashandrise that's not the point. You can't tell what click you are on unless you know.
What do you get for that price? :D
no foldable handle, no external adjustment on top, no magnetic catch cup.
comandante fell off. bad.
my Timemore s3 can do all that while feeling and looking way better than the c60. all while costing 90 Euros :D
No gimmick. 😂
Coffee fanatics literally getting milked like gamers.
Made out of brass? Doesn't brass contain lead?
Copper & Zinc.
Nope, that is bronze. Brass is the best for espresso boilers, better than SS or copper, the direct contenders.
For a grinder it simply doesn't matter, without any heating and short contact time. There are Alu based alloys that are a a better choice than brass as cost and machinability.
Thanks for the replies guys!
Oooh..Baracuda!
Each grinder takes 6 weeks to build, hence the price is justifiable.
I tried the grinder and was suprised, that the grinders handle, was not fixed to the grinders arm, and fell off in the middle of my grinding. Wierd design in my opinion.
Awesome review. Time is money...great piece for my collection. Def seems more industrial love it.
So conclusion.... €600 for..... fuck all difference. Damn bruh capitalism on that hype innovation these days
Or buy Kinu m47 Classic
The metal body looks nice at first glance but unfortunately I really don't see who would buy this. The price is crazy high and while a metal body might pass as premium the plastic container certainly does not and if the body is too heavy make that one metal too. But even if they fix it the price is still ridiculous. The Kinu M47 is available for €350 and is already premium, even the titanium version is cheaper than this grinder.
Fanboys / people who collect grinders rather than drink coffee 😅...
Only 21 Micron per click? I´m down at 15 Micron with C40Mk4 + RX35 (total cost two years ago was € 330 - half as much as a C60).
The adjustment knob on C60 is even worse than the plastic triangle kind of shape on C40...
I see the weight of C60 as an issue (not just if you want to pack it for traveling).
Maybe they will sell you another 'DLC' after some time to fix all that issues 😂
€600!?
seriously... no new innovation... just different material... this is insane for the price..
It seems quite out of touch with customers. The granularity between clicks, internal adjustment, price, etc. I personally feel that Comandante is quickly becoming the "Blackberry" of the coffee grinder world.
Overpriced meme. I sold my MK3 and went with other company... Don't take me wrong had good run with it but wood issues and logo done in a half assed way, the plastic on top getting scratches from nothing, yeah no... MK4 wood laminate was even less pleasing...
C40 wasnt bad but I sold it anyway, the amount of plastic crap like lid or jar and scratches after short time and now the price for their new overpriced grinder is huge joke. I know this is ad, but I'm not buying, sorry.
Ales explains how he feels 3:31 😉
Definitely a joke, 600ish euros for an outdated grind size adjustment just for a bigger burr. With that price you can even get a df64 with ssp mp burrs. At this point I am sure they just decided to keep the click system because their little german pride doesn't let them to 'copy' 1zpresso and timemore. Wake up comandante!
Outmoded adjustment on the bottom, no numbers, no features. Just bigger, heavier and more expensive. I see no sense to buy it.
Btw Why baracuda without double “r”?
I don’t understand this grinder. In this price range you have far better options for a filter.
It's fascinating to see how the European market seems monopolized by Comandante, and it's quite surprising that this channel hasn't reviewed any 1Zpresso products yet. Considering the context, it appears there is a clear bias in content selection. From my experience, 1Zpresso grinders offer exceptional value-they're not only more affordable but also more comfortable and user-friendly compared to Comandante. Given these advantages, it's worth discussing whether Comandante is still the best option on the market or if it's primarily striving to maintain its position. It would be great to see a comparative review to offer viewers a more comprehensive understanding of their options, but you will never do that since you are paid but comandante. How con somene trust this channel ?
It’s strange that after clearly stating Comandante is the long-term sponsor of ECT at the beginning of the video (and all other related videos) it’s a surprise for you we don’t feature or compare other grinders in the category. Since we are biased, it wouldn’t make sense.
There are plenty of other channels that can do a good job with that! You are free not to trust us (or watch our videos).
They had a disclaimer at the beginning of the video. Did you skip it or randomly put negative comments under content you don’t like?
Seriously, there are so many reviews of the 1zpresso out there. Why are you out here shilling for them?
i got c60 and kinu titan feel much heavy and heavier to grinds, mavo phantom grinder are better 😁
Still has inferior grind size setting, way, way too expensive. Also, after that cease-and-desist suing fiasco of Comandante, won't buy anything from the company anymore.
IP needs protection. You let others steal your design ideas?
Are you serious@@Negaah21 ? There is prior art for their "idea"
at this price point just get a 1zpresso lmfao you can get three of those grinders for the price of one of these and get the same grind quality
Or even timemore with ssp burrs. I don’t understand this grinder
King grinder half the price of 1zpresso and is from the same company under cheaper brand. Get that mate.
@@kain4636there are many mediocre grinders on AliExpress bro. 🎉😂
1zpresso.