love your method of pinching the filter at the tip! I subconsciously did it on my v60 a few months ago, and have stuck with it till date - subtle, but a much needed boost to the brew's quality!
I'm so glad you made this video! I love the concept of the Deep 27 but haven't been able to get as good of results as with the V60. I'm also sensitive to caffeine and generally drink a single small cup in the morning (like 100 - 150 mL), so it's perfect for me. Really excited to try incorporating these tips. I'm already sure I haven't been seating the filter properly.
Great video! This brewer's a game changer for people with caffeine sensitivity like me. I can now have some regular coffee without suffering too many consequences 😅 I've been experimenting with it for a while now as well and I agree with your tips! I've been using a very similar technique and had some lovely (and consistent) results. Ensuring the bed is even with a lot of agitation and the filter is properly fitted seems to be crucial.
This has been my favorite brewer for the past 3 or 4 months. I'm going to go try your pulse recipe right now because it has similarities to what I've been doing. I do a 1 minute bloom and then 2 equal pours. Pour 1 is small circles, pour 2 is a straight center pour. I've been loving the results, so I'm excited to see if your recipe improves on it.
Only took me a few minutes of watching your video to know I needed to pick one up and feel confident I'd be able to make good coffee with it! I haven't really been tempted at all to purchase a brewer besides the V60 I already have, but the "end of the bag microdose" has always been a bit annoying. I think the Deep 27 will help turn that annoyance into a special "treat" instead! Although I've been brewing with V60 for months now, I feel like I'm still working to understand exactly how to get what I want out of it consistently. You're previous video on pourover variables was very helpful, and with the information in this video I'm curious if I'll be able to get even more consistent results with the Deep 27 than my V60. Thanks again for all the wonderful content you create! It's very much appreciated! 😊
going by brian quan's video where the cafec ceo was first showcasing the deep 27, cafec's ideal use case in mind is single cup osmotic flow where "without thinking a single thought, you pour water right in the middle". so it's probably best suited for when you have fresh, dark beans ground course and a kettle with a long thin spout that can pour with laminar flow at a very low flow rate
Is there a kettle with a shower spout? The best coffee I ever had was from an old (French-made) Krups F468 MokaBrew. It let me wet the bed (of coffee) with a uniform set of gentle droplets over the entire surface, which I could give a few seconds to go through. Then the next set of droplets and wait... It was 100% reliable without fussing.
Great video! I just got the deep 27, because I'm Sensitive to caffeine (my go to is 12g), my brews have been good, but lacking some body, and pretty thin, so i will try the recipes in the video, so far, for the 12g doses, i do find the V60 gives me better results, but im excited to try adding agitation.
Update, just tried it, seated the filter according to your recommendation as well, and wow, I was going to kind of abandon this dripper, but I think you just changed that, thank you!
auto translation for video titles and descriptions seems to be enabled on your channel, I believe there's an option in the channel settings somewhere to disable it
Thanks for the heads up. I don't recall seeing a setting for this but I have manually deleted the translations for the title and descripition. Hopefully it's sorted out now.
Hi :) amazing video as always. Just one thing; I think cafiza is not recomended for plastics, maybe a soak in hot water with odorless dish soap is good enough
My problem is the filters. I haven't found a source for filters besides cafec usa directly and their shipping cost is pretty ridiculous for shipping a few packs of filters
I'd have already bought this if they had a glass/ceramic version. Thanks for the thorough review Aramse. Also, being a user of the Philos i200d, how is yours configured? (burr lock at 0 or burr chirp at 0). And also, which grind setting are you using for V60 / Deep27 brews. I know I need to adjust to taste but I'm mostly curious.
The small dose is exactly why I ordered one. Limiting my caffeine intake is important to me. Got a chuckle out of your tasting comment. At some point you have to put the thesaurus away and drink the coffee. You mention it only has a single filter option. Have you tried the Chemex Funnex or its filters?
The Chemex has smooth walls and very low bypass making the flow rate way slower and I really didn't love the style of brews I got from it. A big reason for the quality of the cups out of the D27 is how fast it is.
You owe me a cup of coffee cuz your bypass joke made me ROFL and my coffee was everywhere except my mouth. Jokes apart, good stuff guys. Loved the review and the script.
Interesting review with a lot of things that match my experience and some that don't. 1. Other filters. If you unfold a D27 filter, you'll find the tip makes a 90° angle. A large Chemex filter square makes four small squares and you can fold the small squares into the appropriate shape for a D27. Should Cafec stop making D27 filters or should the filters become too expensive, that's always an easy solution. Not issues with fitting as long as I prewet at the sink. 2. For larger doses (15g), I haven't found bypass to be an issue. I think that the pressure difference between the top of the water column and the bottom of the coffee bed make it so that nearly all the water goes through the coffee bed anyway, water at the top doesn't exert a lot of pressure sideways and therefore doesn't "leak" a lot at the top. This might be different for a shallower bed. This was confirmed by extraction numbers at 20% to 24% depending on grind size, pour structure and coffee origins. 3. Consequently, I haven't found much issue brewing with bloom plus two, three, or four pours and agitating with the kettle stream. I suspect this might also have to do with fact that 250g of water provides much more agitation than 160g of water despite a 10g dose needing as much agitation if not more than a 15g dose. 4. The plastic has been holding steady for me. I've had mine for four months and despite daily brews it has retained its shine and shows zero crack (unlike transparent V60s). Longer experience is needed, but so far so good. 5. In fact, it has replaced my V60 and my Cafec Flower, these days, it's either D27 or Espro Bloom when I go for flat bottom.
1. Thanks for the tip. Have you compared the brews, I always preferred the stock ones even when folding flat filter evenly on all sides. It's also a bit annoying to do every time I want to brew, but that's just me. Haha 2. Oh I never said 15g+ has bypass issues. I just prefer the profile of the brews out of the v60 at those doses. Again personal preference. 3. Yes, with a higher volume you have more contact time and can get away with fewer pours. Tbh you can do smaller doses with fewer pours but with 6-8 pours you can really bump up extraction and sweetness without any astringency. 4. I've hand mine for a year and it still look pristine. 5. I still love the v60 but I too use the D27 more these days.
1. Yes, I have compared, though I don't really have a preference for either, I think stock is marginally faster and fresher, Chemex with a single layer on all sides is marginally more transparent and sweet. 2. 15g is actually the upper limit of my single person brew, I tend to go for 14 most often. Surprisingly, despite its shape, D27 doesn't taste like a super v60 but somewhere between a V60 and a flat brewer, but closer to a v60 to me. 3. Yes, with smaller doses, I tend to up the number of pours too. 4. I wish all plastics in coffee brewers were like that resistant. 5. Same.
Oh, I got myself a coffee advent calendar. Each packet is 20 g, which is too much for my afternoon coffee, so I am dividing it between 2 brews. I have a 1 c V60, so not too big, but this would be perfect. For sure I need a 15th coffee brewer, right?
I'm always worried about wear and microplastics when using an abrasive cleaning method. I'm sure a toothbrush will work well it'll definitely damage the surface.
If the walls are flat you won't have this fast of a flow rate, which key to the cups this brewer delivers. The Chemex 3 cup is very similar with smooth walls but I'm not a fan of that.
Usually between 600-800 depending on what I’m trying to highlight in the coffee. Sometimes a tad finer if I just feel like a really sweet cup that’s not super clear.
Still dont understand why ratios are so high. Even a kid can simply do a test by spooning the bottom of the pour as it's been extracted. one could notice that around a 1:9 - 1:12 ratio the coffee coming out is so watered down and hollow. It makes no sense for it to be in your cup.
I fear that as coffee producing areas are further impacted by climate change, using less coffee per cup may become the norm. It's good to know that people are playing around with new things like this.
Interesting. So long "everybody" waa saying the 3Cup Chemex is no good, because of the steep angle bla bla. No so many people are excited about this- so the question is: Is there anything this does better, habe we not been ready then
...which would be better due to the issue with bypass and too fast brews....? I mean, I watch every of your videos, because they are so well crafted, so there is no need to agree with everything, I just wonder what makes the 3 cup chemex so "bad" in comparison
This looks like it's too much of a fuss. I don't see a reason to pick this one up over an aeropress, where you can afford to grind even finer for more extraction in regards to smaller doses.
The AP is great but the profile of the brews is completely different. This gives you a cone style profile with tiny doses and I haven't used any other dripper that can do this.
By far one of the funniest videos you’ve done. Great stuff!
Haha thanks! The name really set the ball rolling on the jokes for this one. :)
Puns and jokes like it’s raining. Always great content from any side you look at it 😆
This guy is so brilliant. I would watch these videos even if I didn't drink coffee. He's so funny.
Good stuff as always. Keep them coming!
I always enjoy how detailed and technical your videos are. Thank you for the info.
love your method of pinching the filter at the tip! I subconsciously did it on my v60 a few months ago, and have stuck with it till date - subtle, but a much needed boost to the brew's quality!
As always, concise, entertaining, and even-handed. Happily subscribed.
I love the minimal and distraction-free background and how you present the product. Thanks for the video.
I'm so glad you made this video! I love the concept of the Deep 27 but haven't been able to get as good of results as with the V60. I'm also sensitive to caffeine and generally drink a single small cup in the morning (like 100 - 150 mL), so it's perfect for me. Really excited to try incorporating these tips. I'm already sure I haven't been seating the filter properly.
Awesome as always Brew!
"Micro dosing coffee all day." You are so hilarious. Great episode.
I have the Taizo Gold Edition of this brewer - reminiscent of a flute of champagne - and I love it !
Great video! This brewer's a game changer for people with caffeine sensitivity like me. I can now have some regular coffee without suffering too many consequences 😅
I've been experimenting with it for a while now as well and I agree with your tips! I've been using a very similar technique and had some lovely (and consistent) results. Ensuring the bed is even with a lot of agitation and the filter is properly fitted seems to be crucial.
I love your content. Always an insightful laugh
Love the humor you inject. And now I want to try this brewer even though I have a few already.
you're the funniest coffee youtuber it's insane hahah
Usually don’t comment on videos but amazing video, informative and so funny! Keep up the good work! //fellow Deep27 lover
Thank you!
thanks! one of the best coffee channel here!
Cheers!
Love it. Going out and buying one of these tomorrow.
I can’t help but feel like you felt inspired by the name of the brewer and slipped some puns in. 😏
I like to do 6-8g with 4 small pours. With 15g doses I do two pours. I love the cups I get from it
Had one for 3-4 months, changed my experience, and caffeine intake
Highly recommended, I use the D27 more than my V60
It's awesome!
This has been my favorite brewer for the past 3 or 4 months. I'm going to go try your pulse recipe right now because it has similarities to what I've been doing. I do a 1 minute bloom and then 2 equal pours. Pour 1 is small circles, pour 2 is a straight center pour. I've been loving the results, so I'm excited to see if your recipe improves on it.
Another banger video!
If it is a small dose of coffee, typically I would stick to the Aeropress.
But great video. Thanks!
The AP is great but it’s not a pour over, esp a cone dripper profile. :)
@@aramse Totally agree on that. I just might be tempted to get this to add to all the coffee devices in my coffee corner.
@@aramse It can have a slightly cleaner profile with Aesir filters, or filters cut from Chemex paper. Still won't be as clear as a cone though
Love your work, great review
Only took me a few minutes of watching your video to know I needed to pick one up and feel confident I'd be able to make good coffee with it!
I haven't really been tempted at all to purchase a brewer besides the V60 I already have, but the "end of the bag microdose" has always been a bit annoying. I think the Deep 27 will help turn that annoyance into a special "treat" instead!
Although I've been brewing with V60 for months now, I feel like I'm still working to understand exactly how to get what I want out of it consistently. You're previous video on pourover variables was very helpful, and with the information in this video I'm curious if I'll be able to get even more consistent results with the Deep 27 than my V60.
Thanks again for all the wonderful content you create! It's very much appreciated! 😊
going by brian quan's video where the cafec ceo was first showcasing the deep 27, cafec's ideal use case in mind is single cup osmotic flow where "without thinking a single thought, you pour water right in the middle". so it's probably best suited for when you have fresh, dark beans ground course and a kettle with a long thin spout that can pour with laminar flow at a very low flow rate
latex (finger cots) is a pretty transparent material to put over ur mic to waterproof it if u r using an overhead boom mic. 10:26
Thanks for the tip!
Is there a kettle with a shower spout? The best coffee I ever had was from an old (French-made) Krups F468 MokaBrew. It let me wet the bed (of coffee) with a uniform set of gentle droplets over the entire surface, which I could give a few seconds to go through. Then the next set of droplets and wait... It was 100% reliable without fussing.
Check out the melodrip
So deadpan with the jokes. Good info, good video as usual... learned and laughed.
Great video! I just got the deep 27, because I'm Sensitive to caffeine (my go to is 12g), my brews have been good, but lacking some body, and pretty thin, so i will try the recipes in the video, so far, for the 12g doses, i do find the V60 gives me better results, but im excited to try adding agitation.
Ohh definitely try the pulsed recipe. Tons of texture and sweetness.
Update, just tried it, seated the filter according to your recommendation as well, and wow, I was going to kind of abandon this dripper, but I think you just changed that, thank you!
auto translation for video titles and descriptions seems to be enabled on your channel, I believe there's an option in the channel settings somewhere to disable it
Thanks for the heads up. I don't recall seeing a setting for this but I have manually deleted the translations for the title and descripition. Hopefully it's sorted out now.
Hi :) amazing video as always. Just one thing; I think cafiza is not recomended for plastics, maybe a soak in hot water with odorless dish soap is good enough
Ooh thanks for the info. I'll add that to a pinned comment. Cafiza is quite aggressive.
I got a chemex that's really step like this and I like it better than my regular chemex so I think I would this will be a future purchase for me.
Yeah the Chemex is missing the ridges that allow this to have such fast flow.
My problem is the filters. I haven't found a source for filters besides cafec usa directly and their shipping cost is pretty ridiculous for shipping a few packs of filters
Yeah is definitely and issue and I mention this in the annoyances section of the video.
I'd have already bought this if they had a glass/ceramic version. Thanks for the thorough review Aramse. Also, being a user of the Philos i200d, how is yours configured? (burr lock at 0 or burr chirp at 0). And also, which grind setting are you using for V60 / Deep27 brews. I know I need to adjust to taste but I'm mostly curious.
Burr lock at zero and btw 90 and 100 most of the time.
I also was able to get great brews with 30g doses and light roasted coffee (mostly from prodigal but other Nordic roasters from overseas as well)
Nice. I tried it a couple of times and I just preferred the v60 brews so figured it wasn't worth the faff. Whats your recipe?
The small dose is exactly why I ordered one. Limiting my caffeine intake is important to me. Got a chuckle out of your tasting comment. At some point you have to put the thesaurus away and drink the coffee.
You mention it only has a single filter option. Have you tried the Chemex Funnex or its filters?
The Chemex has smooth walls and very low bypass making the flow rate way slower and I really didn't love the style of brews I got from it. A big reason for the quality of the cups out of the D27 is how fast it is.
You owe me a cup of coffee cuz your bypass joke made me ROFL and my coffee was everywhere except my mouth.
Jokes apart, good stuff guys. Loved the review and the script.
Switch+Mugen would be on the opposite side of this and also very tricky to dial including proper paper position, but results are insanely good
Heard good things about this combo.
please tell me who made you change the tone and flow of your scripts, it amazingly improved
Haha thank you. No external intervention, just constantly experimenting and trying to be more me on camera. Glad we’re headed in the right direction.
Looks like a pitcher for making milkshakes.
Interesting review with a lot of things that match my experience and some that don't.
1. Other filters. If you unfold a D27 filter, you'll find the tip makes a 90° angle. A large Chemex filter square makes four small squares and you can fold the small squares into the appropriate shape for a D27. Should Cafec stop making D27 filters or should the filters become too expensive, that's always an easy solution. Not issues with fitting as long as I prewet at the sink.
2. For larger doses (15g), I haven't found bypass to be an issue. I think that the pressure difference between the top of the water column and the bottom of the coffee bed make it so that nearly all the water goes through the coffee bed anyway, water at the top doesn't exert a lot of pressure sideways and therefore doesn't "leak" a lot at the top. This might be different for a shallower bed. This was confirmed by extraction numbers at 20% to 24% depending on grind size, pour structure and coffee origins.
3. Consequently, I haven't found much issue brewing with bloom plus two, three, or four pours and agitating with the kettle stream. I suspect this might also have to do with fact that 250g of water provides much more agitation than 160g of water despite a 10g dose needing as much agitation if not more than a 15g dose.
4. The plastic has been holding steady for me. I've had mine for four months and despite daily brews it has retained its shine and shows zero crack (unlike transparent V60s). Longer experience is needed, but so far so good.
5. In fact, it has replaced my V60 and my Cafec Flower, these days, it's either D27 or Espro Bloom when I go for flat bottom.
1. Thanks for the tip. Have you compared the brews, I always preferred the stock ones even when folding flat filter evenly on all sides. It's also a bit annoying to do every time I want to brew, but that's just me. Haha
2. Oh I never said 15g+ has bypass issues. I just prefer the profile of the brews out of the v60 at those doses. Again personal preference.
3. Yes, with a higher volume you have more contact time and can get away with fewer pours. Tbh you can do smaller doses with fewer pours but with 6-8 pours you can really bump up extraction and sweetness without any astringency.
4. I've hand mine for a year and it still look pristine.
5. I still love the v60 but I too use the D27 more these days.
1. Yes, I have compared, though I don't really have a preference for either, I think stock is marginally faster and fresher, Chemex with a single layer on all sides is marginally more transparent and sweet.
2. 15g is actually the upper limit of my single person brew, I tend to go for 14 most often. Surprisingly, despite its shape, D27 doesn't taste like a super v60 but somewhere between a V60 and a flat brewer, but closer to a v60 to me.
3. Yes, with smaller doses, I tend to up the number of pours too.
4. I wish all plastics in coffee brewers were like that resistant.
5. Same.
Oh, I got myself a coffee advent calendar. Each packet is 20 g, which is too much for my afternoon coffee, so I am dividing it between 2 brews. I have a 1 c V60, so not too big, but this would be perfect. For sure I need a 15th coffee brewer, right?
Yeah, I've got a coffee advent calendar too, 50g each day, I just reached Dec 6. 😂
@ - 😂😂😂
my concern is the filters going out of stock, all those "niche" ones usually end up harder and harder to find filters for
Check out the Annoyances section of the video :)
hey hey, great video! The brewer definitely has a niche. Talking about Niche, what grinder did you use? The 078?
The Philos. Jump to the brewing section. I mention this.
@@aramse Thanks... I shouldn't have done the dishes while listening to your video ,-). Can't wait for your philos' review then. Greetings from Berlin
If you do 7 grams what tbt would you look for? Still the same?
Does the fast speed means a lot of bypassing?
Only if used incorrectly :) there’s definitely bypass but that’s not always a bad thing.
The 90 year old heart patient got me by surprise 🤣
I'm curious about the 3 cup chemex. It's basically the same thing
Complete different flow dynamics due to the lack of ridges. Much more prone to stalling.
for cleaning I find a toothbrush makes short work of the gunk in the throat of a V60
I'm always worried about wear and microplastics when using an abrasive cleaning method. I'm sure a toothbrush will work well it'll definitely damage the surface.
Well, another dripper to the collection 😅
"WTF do I do now?"😂😂😂😂😂
That exact thing happened to me today! 😂😂😂😂
Only coffee people understand.
Haha it’s the worst.
Felt so seen
Now i want to see the converse type brewer with the UFO and its very shallow angle lol
I'm trying to get my hands on that.
.....annnnnnd, we officially just jumped the shark.....
How do you brew two cups without your brew taking 5min?
What grind size was used?
Usually between 600-800 microns with this. Sometimes a little finer if just want a really sweet cup and I don't mind forgoing a little clarity.
They make this in glass or ceramic, I buy.
Oh wait a minute, we need this but with completely flat walls, and you have the perfect no bypass brewer.
If the walls are flat you won't have this fast of a flow rate, which key to the cups this brewer delivers. The Chemex 3 cup is very similar with smooth walls but I'm not a fan of that.
What's that coffee cup??
One’s the Orea sense and the other icosa brew
Wouldn't the brewee be the coffee that's being brewed? 🤔
I’m just as confused as you are
Pro Tip (heh): No import fees from Japan if you’re in the EU!
If i post my cafec brewing fail with the companys founders will people in the coffee community watch?
How many microns did ya use?
Usually between 600-800 depending on what I’m trying to highlight in the coffee. Sometimes a tad finer if I just feel like a really sweet cup that’s not super clear.
Still dont understand why ratios are so high. Even a kid can simply do a test by spooning the bottom of the pour as it's been extracted. one could notice that around a 1:9 - 1:12 ratio the coffee coming out is so watered down and hollow. It makes no sense for it to be in your cup.
aramse bhai, aramse. lol
"More bypass than a 90 year old heart patient." 🤣🤣
nice "deep" dive
I fear that as coffee producing areas are further impacted by climate change, using less coffee per cup may become the norm. It's good to know that people are playing around with new things like this.
Interesting.
So long "everybody" waa saying the 3Cup Chemex is no good, because of the steep angle bla bla.
No so many people are excited about this- so the question is:
Is there anything this does better, habe we not been ready then
The chemex has no ridges so the flow is way slower.
...which would be better due to the issue with bypass and too fast brews....?
I mean, I watch every of your videos, because they are so well crafted, so there is no need to agree with everything, I just wonder what makes the 3 cup chemex so "bad" in comparison
Even though I sound like a pretentious…. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Love your content. Please keep making awesome videos @aramse
Most days, when RUclipsrs open with hypotheticals, I don't find it very relatable. Today is not that day.
That opening was me sharing a deeply personal experience and I knew I couldn't be the only one. Haha. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment.
This looks like it's too much of a fuss. I don't see a reason to pick this one up over an aeropress, where you can afford to grind even finer for more extraction in regards to smaller doses.
The AP is great but the profile of the brews is completely different. This gives you a cone style profile with tiny doses and I haven't used any other dripper that can do this.
I don't get enough plastics in my body these days so pouring nearly boiling hot water through a plastic cone sounds like the perfect solution.
the f-bombs are unnecessary and off-putting
I enjoyed them
I thought they were executed in quite a charming way and found them fun (and I'm somewhat averse to excessive expletive use).
Just being me on camera tbh. If you met me in person then you'd know I'm a bit of a potty mouth. Haha.
Okay, but why u curse so much ?! That doesn't make cool or edgy! u look and sound like robot actually reading from script ، you should do better 👌🤍'