Unlike the X95, the Tavor 7 has an adjustable gas block. And it's in .308. And you can get a 20" barrel kit for it (or leave it with the 16"). And you can lock the charging handle back by tilting it up slightly to do a bullpup HK slap. What I'm trying to get at here is do a video on the Tavor 7.
IWI really needs to update the X95 with the benefits of the 7. One of the biggest being able to swap the left hand eject without needs additional parts. Only real downside to the 7 is that it’s unreliable with harder primers.
Do you have one?? I've got some questions if you do- having some serious trouble getting to zero with multiple optics on my 7. Always seeming to drift to the right, no matter what optic I throw on or how I adjust the mounting system.
@@WKidd1776 I haven't had that issue with mine, since multiple optics are doing it my only guess is there's something weird on going on with the rail on the gun itself. It is removable, so maybe the screws just aren't fully tightened or something? I'd get in touch with IWI and see if they can figure it out.
I think the thing that people often don't appreciate about the Tavor - it was designed by IWI for use by the IDF. Full stop. So the engineers designed the rifle with very specific use scenarios and didn't care that in all these other scenarios it wouldn't be as ideal. In the West we tend to build our weapons as versatile as possible, with the maximum ability to modify uses; but the Tavors are the opposite. It is intended to be used by frontline IDF troops, entirely manufactured in Israel (as a result of previous Western arms embargos). I love my X95 and use it for a ton of things, but if I am carrying for a situation it isn't ideal I switch back over to something else that is. The Tavor is a work truck - meant for the job site, so don't expect leather and a heated seat.
People in the service, if they run with the M4, they will never exchange it to this gun... The joke is that the mtavor did not have automatic fire. SOF which Mtar are in service, I think there is automatic fire there
I don't know why this video popped into my algorithm, but I'll leave a comment. I served 3 years with this rifle in a special ops unit (and still do in reserves) in the IDF and I've been trained by one of the first officers to receive this rifle and basically formed the fighting methodology with this rifle for the IDF. First of all, you're using it mostly right so that's good. But the major thing to understand with this rifle is that it was designed for the IDF infantry and how the ground forces operate in combat. There are several versions of the service Tavor( the x95 is the micro Tavor- the older brother is the Tavor), with a longer barrel for sharpshooters and grenade launchers. Yes, it is less accurate, but I've seen very long and great shots with this one. The IDF mostly fights in urban areas rather than open areas, so its more efficient to have a shorter rifle that is less accurate but is very reliable (and it is, it shoots even when its full of mud) that can "catch corners" easier and is very easy to use. And let's not forget, it's cheaper to make these than to buy M4s from the US.
One thing that is interesting, I'm guessing it's mostly because of politics but the tavor is going to not be used in the army anymore. (as in new soldiers won't be training on them. Obviously anyone who used one will still use it and even during reserves but the army is going to stop using it and move everyone to M4s)
@@juanramirez7108 I don’t imagine that most IDF soldiers issued that rifle get the Geissele trigger on their rifle designed for CQB. If that was the case then it would be the standard trigger sold with the rifle from the factory that way.
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After serving 18 years in the french army,using the Famas all this time, I'll say this: the same things that you say about bullpup system ,we are saying about the AR platform, we began using for a couple of years the HK416....learning all over again the manual of arms....front heavy, weird way to change the mag, the mag ejection button actuated by the kit etc etc....😁 so basically, it's just a question of habit ,training and adaptation to what you have to use as a given platform
I understand that at 600yards the accuracy of the Tabor may be less than a modern AR15 but we have to accept the fact that it was made primarily as a CQB.
@@shroey20 that depends, if you have that kind of range that you can shoot 600 or even more all the time, you can do it with the right AR quite nicely.
The thing about 400 to 600 accuracy, is if you can do it from prone or standing. I can his at 450 yards with great accuracy even in windy conditions...but I need a stable platform and using a sandbag on my stock. A well balanced weapon I can make consistent hits with irons to 300 yards...so what weapon is really more accurate for combat situation?
former idf sniper here. regarding the sling ! i want you to try it. we place one side on the stock and the other above the mag trough the hole right below the picatinny rail. this causes the gun to fall smooth next to your leg instead of across your waist. since the tavor is shorter you can have it fully vertical without torching the ground. it makes more sense once you gear up it feels better not abstracting your mags and being on your side like a pistol
arthur Koestler advances the thesis that Ashkenazi Jews are not descended from the historical Israelites of antiquity, but from Khazars, a Turkic people originating in and populating an empire north of and between the Black Sea and Caspian Sea.
Israeli born geneticist Dr. According to Eran Elhaik's latest genetic research, today's Israelis are descended from the Khazar Turks, not from the Middle East.
@@Millstone_Justice he definitely is and it’s 1 of my favorite personas on RUclips or anywhere else. His dedication to “Charlie” is awesome and he plays it to a T
I’ve got the X95 in 300BLK and love it. The 300BLK variant has a 2-position adjustable gas key but works fine with my deadair sandman s without adjustment. Be prepared to spend $1k to make it right. I’ve upgraded some factory parts with Manticore Arms parts. Upgraded the actual trigger with the Geissele Lightning Bow and that was a major improvement. Saving up for the Geissele trigger pack.
@Langley D, I bought the OSS suppressor (Hxwrx) for my 300 BLK variant and I also bought the Manticore gasket for the left side's ejector port and the Geissele trigger and FCG and WOW, best bull pup on earth with these mods, IMHO. You won't be disappointed with Geissele's FCG once you install it
I have an X95 .300 Blackout, and it does have an adjustable gas block for switching to suppressed & subsonic ammo. I agree w/ some of the other issues stated though, but Manticore Arms is a solid one stop shop for fairly inexpensive corrections. I put on the aluminum M-Lok guard, which runs right up to the muzzle device and free floats the barrel. I replaced the charging handle & rod with one that folds flat, and the safety switch and indicator w/ two full fledged ambi-safety switches that are low profile. Oh, and I replaced the port cover with one that's made of milled aluminum with a heavy duty gasket - no more Tavor face. Next steps are to replace the trigger group & bow w. the Geissele Super Sabra Trigger pack, and the Lightning Bow Trigger, as well as getting a Dead Air can for it. Bidenomic's has slowed down those last two acquisitions... oh - and the fact I accidentally dropped the rifle in a lake. tragic accident. made me cry.
@@soul8bounce NO Deen, that would be the conclusion of someone using a reductive argument would come to. It's already a great rifle, it just get's better with a little additional work. See - I'm not going to be crawling through sand and mud with it in a combat situation, so I can make different choices than the IDF, because I understand that you don't want a light trigger on a combat rifle lest it be accidentally discharged more easily, that the light weight polymer handguard is a better choice for most, and a charging handle that doesn't fold is more rugged and less prone to breakage. I'm sorry - but your take.. well it lacks intelligence. while were here, let's discuss AR platform modding... no one does that right? cause every AR works perfectly for every person and use case right out of the box? OH - and lets not forget the key point was - you can get an X95 thats made to be suppressed, his negatives were mostly built up around that, and it just came down to him having the wrong caliber. the .300 blackout version is the bees knees.
@@davidlane07 I believe that hes talking about internal damage because there is no adjustable gas block on the one he had, meaning he would still have to fire supersonic rounds, which combined with a suppressor would cause significant overpressure. an adjustable gas block would allow for the firing of subsonic ammunition, allowing you to tune how much gas is is being used to cycle the action.
@@davidlane07 When they say a rifle is "overgassed" when running a suppressor or that it will "wreck the rifle", what they mean is that when you fire the gun there is extra gas in the system which thus causes the bolt to slam back harder. This happens because the suppressor is trapping the gas and less gas is being expelled out of the front. The gas is instead running back through the gas system and/or the chamber and out of the back (called gas blowback). The 'slamming of the bolt back harder' increases wear and tear on the internals of the rifle. The silencer won't "destroy" the weapon per say... it'll just make it wear out faster. It also makes it dirty but that really doesn't hurt the weapon, as long as you clean and lube it after every use. A lot of people say you don't need to do that and that you only need to clean modern weapons every 1000 rounds. I say bullshit because the lube helps the internal metal on metal moving parts last longer.
I've had the original Tavor (pre-X95) for about eight years now. I bought it right before the X-95 was rolled out. The factory trigger was simply awful but easily corrected with the Geissele drop in you and others have mentioned. I'm a recently retired DEA agent and used an approved 16" LWRCI AR at work for search warrants and other enforcement operations. Can't tell you how much easier, smoother, and more ergonomic I found the Tavor for building clearing and was so frustrated it was a weapon I couldn't use at work. So much easier to smoothly pivot through a house's doorways and corners with that short bullpup instead of a full length AR. I think those constricted urban spaces and buildings are where you really start to appreciate the advantages of bullpups and are more forgiving of their weaknesses. Great review! Thanks for finally doing the Tavor!
Sure seems to be working pretty well. I’ve talked to Israelis who have been using it not just in the ongoing new war but the last couple years and they are all extremely impressed with the weapon and not just for CQB.
I'm Marine Corps retired, I've shot the Tavor X95, It's a superb battle rifle, that said, I'll never get used to Bullpup designs, swapping out mags is just awkward, when you've gotten used to the M4, or the M14
Would love to see an update on the MDR in this style, maybe the 308 this time around. I feel like putting all the common bullpups against each other with all of you competing would help out a lot of people on the fence about these.
Israeli born geneticist Dr. According to Eran Elhaik's latest genetic research, today's Israelis are descended from the Khazar Turks, not from the Middle East.
It seems like not everybody was in the best mood at the start, but it was awesome to see the mood immediately cheer up when you started shooting. Y'all have great chemistry 😁
Love my Tavor X95. Been waiting for (3) years and counting to buy any common spare parts. You break your firing pin, loss a spring, etc. . You have to buy a new Tavor fir spare parts.
@@gokissasickmonkeyswetass Yeah I looked up parts late last year because I wanted that thing that helps with gas blowback when putting a can on a Tavor. Like every Tavor part was sold out, including that part. But it only took me about 5 minutes to find a site that had it in stock, which was Optics Planet, except after submitting the order, they said it was on backorder, and pushed back a couple times, with now early February being the date it's expected LOL. You have any idea what's up with the lack of parts? I did get some extra parts like a year ago or whenever, before the shortage hit. Figured it was a good idea to have some spares.
An interesting review, from the point of view of a civilian purchaser. This rifle was designed for the military and even the IDF didn't outfit all its units with it, to this day. The M4 and variations play a huge role, the reserve soldiers are mostly equipped with M16s of various shapes and forms, the reality is more complicated.
Love my x95, essentially a bullpup AK that takes stanag mags. Just started running a VG and it changed the whole feel, running the trusty aimpoint pro it's been absolutely bombproof for 3000 rounds.
Israeli born geneticist Dr. According to Eran Elhaik's latest genetic research, today's Israelis are descended from the Khazar Turks, not from the Middle East.
It’s a compromised system but one important aspect for some of us is that it is compliant with mass laws while remaining short overall, using ar mags, having a pistol grip (gauntlet), and being as close to an sbr style weapon system as is possible within the draconian state laws. It’s definitely quirky in some ways but I’ve grown quite fond of it over the years, heavy but well balanced, it runs reliably and it is a unique conversation piece at the range. If it weren’t for laws, I’d trade it and a not inconsiderable amount of money for a gq paladin carbon in 8.6 in a heartbeat.
Here in Canada, we don’t have access to the AR15 platform. However, we have clone firearms of the AR180 and we have the Tavor. For us, those are better options when no AR is available to the market.
The level of suppressed affection that exists between these guys warms my heart. I like the drills better than the intros. Please keep including them in the videos.
Israeli born geneticist Dr. According to Eran Elhaik's latest genetic research, today's Israelis are descended from the Khazar Turks, not from the Middle East.
I never noticed too much wrecking of parts with a Sandman S but you are spot on with the MOA expectations. I'll add that parts are INCREDIBLY hard to come by, the 9mm kits are canceled, 300blk kits are hard to find and the trigger components from Geissele are expensive for what they are. Still miss mine and I'll probably buy another some day
Yes, I’m using a sandman k on the original Tavor and haven’t seen any issues. I know spare parts is an issue but I have other firearms if I really get screwed with a broken part, and spare parts to work on that other firearm.
@@timunderbakke8756 well that's because the sandman K has almost no suppression. You're running a glorified blast diverter. I too have one and I hate myself for buying one
Israeli born geneticist Dr. According to Eran Elhaik's latest genetic research, today's Israelis are descended from the Khazar Turks, not from the Middle East.
i wish they'd bring back the 9mm kits. and im super lucky to have gotten mine in .300 blk, the things been tuned to high hell by its previous owner. its also more manticore arms than it is stock at this point
It's meant to be used in every invierment, includind sand reach ones. That's why it's so "gassy". Also, in israel we rarely use supressers, especialy in the military.
For short people like me (5'0"), bullpups are great. My arm from armpit to wrist is only 19 inches long. Shooting an AR-15 is difficult even with a front grip because my arms are extended to their maximum, and I can't quite keep her steady. I bought a Tavor SAR instead. With the weight to the back of the weapon at my shoulder and the shorter overall length, I can hold it more steady and fire more rapidly with greater accuracy. For all those gun guys married to short wpmen, a bullpup might be the way to turn her into a gun gal! Seriously, I am more inclined to ask for a range day since acquiring my Tavor.
Of all the firearms I have owned, selling the X95 and the SAR are two of my biggest regrets. Been looking at reacquiring an X95 ever since, but yet again, I am constantly financially defeated by rent. Very well done video, you've been a top-tier firearms channel here and continue to rise above. Excellent work, keep it up!
This is by far the best cinematography of any GunTuber channel. Better than 1911 Syndicate, T-Rex Arms, and the other "pretty good" camera-work channels.
I've been running an X95 since early 2017. I love it & it's my primary. It's actually not bad if you are going for speed because of the recoil impulse and rear weight. I haven't really thought about sealing the left port cover. I might look into that.
I ordered the Gear Head Works Fulcrum from Optics Planet last month, it was in stock when I clicked the button, of course goes to backorder once my order is submitted. It's supposed to be coming in February. I've read a few times that it works well.
@@clamum9648 I put one on my SAR21 and it does work very well. It also gave me an additional QD point for sling placement. I am getting 1.5 MOA with quality ammo. With the 77 grn. Sierra Matchking bullet hand loads, I am getting .75 MOA to 1.25 MOA with my rifle. It is a SAR21 with the 18" bbl. I installed the Geissele trigger, with the stock trigger linkage. It made a huge difference. This trigger has a nice, crisp break and it brought the trigger pull weight down from ~ 12 lbs. to 4 lbs. measured on a Lyman trigger pull gauge. I have made no other changes to this rifle. I've been told that the 18" barrels were designed to be more accurate, for use as a DMR by the IDF before they switched to the X95. I don't know how true that is but I know that I am getting good accuracy with my rifle.
@@roadapple66 Nice! Sounds good. I admittedly haven't shot mine in a while but I thought it was getting less than 2 MOA, at the worst. I'll have to see next time, though I don't have good ammo, just cheap 55gr stuff. Also only have an EOTech on it, where a scope would probably give me better accuracy due to clearer sight of target.
Israeli born geneticist Dr. According to Eran Elhaik's latest genetic research, today's Israelis are descended from the Khazar Turks, not from the Middle East.
Garand Thumb: “We don’t care about the politics, we’re here to review the X95”. The comment section: We don’t care about your video, we’re here to argue about politics”.
I feel like you’re critiquing one of my kids. My favorite kid. The X95 has its pros and cons just like any other platform. I knew going in that gas might be an issue which is why I have OSS cans that I can run on multiple platforms, not just the X95. The Flow 556k can was made for it! Great combo. Also drop a few bucks on the Manticore Arms ejection port seal and the gas problem becomes nonexistent. I also added the Manticore Optimus handguard which somehow improved the accuracy. I think because it adds more rigidity to the overall frame and essentially free floats the barrel. After thousands of rounds, I’ve never had a failure of any kind. If the SHTF, this would probably be the first rifle I’d grab. But that’s just me.
Same. Adjusted trigger bow w/ super sabra pack, manticore butt pad and Optimus forend, oss can, and IR designator, plus both iron sights still flip up due to my thought-out rail usage. It's my go-to truck / shtf / night fighter rifle.
@@adamb5438 Yep. Very similar. I’ve also got the Geissele trigger setup. Haven’t landed on a flashlight setup I like yet. Wanted to do a CD Rein but it was too chonky. Need. Something that incorporates that top Mlok slot on the Optimus.
@@comedyoferrors77 I use a Streamlight TLR-1 HL mounted to a small metal picatinny section in that 12 o'clock slot on the Optimus, with the flip switch cap intended for pistols (the tabs wrap around the top rail perfectly) instead of the pressure pad. I can hold down with my left thumb for momentary or press up for always on. Plus it does strobe on double press.
Great video and been waiting for the X95 from you. Living in the Burbs' this is my "GTH" rifle. For up close and personal to 300M the X95 is all I need. When installing my Geissele trigger pack and trigger bow I sealed the gas escape routs inside with Black high heat gasket sealer before I put it together. I had the barrel cut to 14.5 inches and pin and welded with a OSS Muzzle Break and added a OSS Free Flow can. Baffled cans are not recommended and there are other choices. Since, I never noticed any gas and this is the softest sweetest shooter. 2.25 MOA is the norm. For my Tavor it is more than adequate for defending anything around my domain. In my neighborhood the longest shot is well within 300M. Keep reaching out to IWI as I would like to see the T7 here as well as the new Carmel.
regarding the gas and suppress.. its probably due the gun is meant for soldiers that are also training with it during training they get muddy and i think that extra gas is to allow it to cycle dirty . not sure but thats how it seems from my training
From my own testing, removing that little barrel ring depends on how much stuff you have on the polymer handguard rails. If you keep it slick, it doesn't make any noticeable difference. But if you have chonky lights hanging off it or use a vertical grip, you absolutely should remove it. It doesn't "improve" accuracy so much as it preserves accuracy against other factors. Also highly recommend the ShootingSight high energy recoil spring to help mitigate the overgassing and resulting recoil, and it does not impair reliability unsuppressed. If you're willing to shell out hundreds of dollars to replace a perfectly serviceable trigger, consider dropping 30 bucks on a spring first.
I recently acquired a Tavor 7 and it addressed some of the criticism you have with the X95. It has an adjustable gas block, comes with an ambidextrous fire selector, and the bolt release is no longer on the bottom near the mag well, but rather there's a notch on the charging handle where you lock the bolt and allows you to even give it a classic MP5 slap. I haven't shot it enough to determine gas yet nor have I tried long range, though I do know the system was purposely designed for urban combat which is one of the reasons why the Israelis moved to the Tavor from the M4. I find disassembly to be rather simple as well.
@Ron Stall is there one really? I've actually never noticed haha. As I said, this was a very recent purchase by me. Edit: I took it out and what do you know, there is a bolt catch and release. I thought that's just where the trigger mechanism resided, I didn't realize you could lock the bolt like that. Learn something new everyday
Completely agree with mine. It feels so darn close to perfect. Adjustable gas block, a little lighter, free float barrel and something to protect the mag release a little would make this a contender when competing against even the best ARs.
I prefer the Tavor21 (you guys call them the SAR21 in the US). The podium bipod is great. It's not compatible with the X95. I also prefer the mag release on the Tavor21 to the AR15 style mag release on the X95. If your mag release rod gets mucked up, it will be a pain during mag releases. The charging handle rod on mine snapped in 2 after about 500 rounds. Replaced it with the much better quality Manticore Arms charging handle and rod.
You can setup the Lightning Bow trigger to have zero take-up and make it a single stage trigger if you want. Due to the nature of being a bullpup you'll still get some very slight creep, but you'd never notice. It's definitely the best bang for your buck mod available for the X95.
I have both the Giessele lightning link and trigger pack, it is the best trigger I have in any of my bullpups and almost as good of a trigger as my Higher end AR rifles
My X95 is also Geissele'd out and it is so great it makes me wonder if it's reliable. Seems to be so far. It's in that "too good to be true but seems to be true" zone
I think an updated version with an adjustable gas system on this would be a game changer. Being able to run this thing suppressed long term would be very useful for certain agencies and branches. Having a fairly compact cq package like this that is able to be suppressed would be very diverse in the field. The safety is kind of a stupid decision on the style, but as long as it functions correctly and reliable, that’s a small gripe. Overall, I think it’s a pretty cool looking weapon. Out of my price range currently though so I’ll stick to my ar15/10 builds for the time. Maybe one day though.
I've owned the Tavor SAR21 for almost 10 years. Never bit on the x95, but also own a Tavor 7 now. The gassing on SAR21 and x95 are extremely valid points. Luckily, I have an OSS can. The Tavor7 addresses many of the issues, but it's in 308. The 45 degree throw is ball busting nice on the Tavor7. That itself makes me reach for it half of the time for the range. The SAR21's charging handle is angled so I could not mount a Dbal D2 on it by itself. I ended up using a Unity Riser to clear my charging handle. I also took a dremel to my SAR21 to mimic the HK lock back on the Tavor7. It works. It freaking works. A much needed improvement in the old design. I'm sure the same could be done to the x95. It makes malfunction clearing so much easier. As much of a die hard fan I am of my bullpups, Daddy Garand hits all the points on the head. There is no free lunch and I'm surprised he did not complain about the overall weight of the gun vs AR15's. They fit in a lot of engineering upgrades into the Tavor7 but I hope they take it all and make the final, best bullpup on the market in 556. I was not a fan of the MDRX, honestly.
If you look at the old design sketches for the tavor prototype, they clearly had an HK-style lockback. I don't know why they dropped the feature for so long! I'm pretty sure that if I was willing to take a dremel to my X95's polymer body, it would work. (But I'm not)
@@jarvy251 the quality of life enhancement is...amazing. to each and their own with their rifle but I had a tavor7 sitting right next to it for reference.
Agreed on all points. I too, have had a Tavor SAR for 10 years and it was the first rifle I truly loved. The X95 never really seemed to catch me the way the SAR did. But the Tavor 7 - oh yes... that thing is incredible. It fixes basically everything he mentions as a problem with the X95 and has an even better trigger - to the point where Geissele hasn't bothered to make a trigger pack for the 7. Heavy, sure, but you only really notice that when you sling it. When you are shooting the weight is mostly in the back so you don't notice. (My AK feels more heavy and awkward than the 7 does despite being a lot lighter.) As much as I love the SAR, if I could get the features of the 7 in 556 I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
As a former IDF paratrooper, I was always happy that I had an M4 and not a Tavor. The Tavor is a cool gun, but always felt impractical to me for anything aside from CC urban combat settings. The M4 felt much lighter as the weight is better distributed down the frame, and was also more comfortable to me personally as I’m tall and lanky. Regardless, this is a great review, thanks for sharing it!
Dear Mr Garand Thumb, I am really enjoying the 3 people test hosts, gives better perspective on how the gun would perform on what seems to be a first time user.
Excellent review. My major complaint about the X95 and the SAR before it was the amount of gas you get hit with during shooting sessions. Gotta be honest. As a Jew, it makes me a little uncomfortable to have so much gas blown back into my face 😬🤫. But seriously, there has to be a way that they can mitigate the blowback AND offer an adjustable system. They put an adjustable system on the Tavor 7.
I have been using an older IWI Tavor SAR for nearly 10 years. Lot's of abuse. Not the best, but after you get used to it, it's pretty good. Love it for getting in & out of vehicles. AR-15 is better for distance. I have a few videos on my channel with it. Never found the need to move to the X95. I use mine supressed, but cut the barrel & pinned/welded the muzzle device. Still legal length barrel & OAL, but it reduced the gas in the system enough so it isn't crazy. Still slightly over gassed, but not as bad as everyone knows.
Be good if you can get hold of the 3 main iterations of the sa80 and see if it actually improved; it being once of the lower tier bullpups out there Edit: well this went a couple different directions
Never used the A1 (thank God - too young to have joined at that time). That was terrible and the A1's reputation is what has stuck with the L85 to the present day. A2 is/was much more reliable and has been used in armed conflicts and won plenty of engagements. It's a battle proven rifle. The issue is that from 2000 onwards, better rifles were available and could have been procured, which is why we could never understand why the L85 was held onto (bean counters digging their heels in i guess). Still, the British Army and Royal Marines have been fighting and winning battles with it and the deployments speak for themselves. The only other rifles I would trust are the X95/Tavor, C8 or an M4. I say that because these rifles are used in conflict and have seen a lot of active use over the last twenty years plus also. They are all battle proven. I can't say that for much else out there. SLR's (FAL's) and G3's would fall into the battle proven category also. Never used the A3 but I've seen a lot of the blokes compliment it some over the A2. I think the service life of the L85 ends in 2025 anyway and the A3 was just done to extend it up to that point until something new is procured.
I used the -A1 back in the day. It had stoppages quite often especially blank firing. The -A2 really did fix the reliability issues. I'd love it if flannel daddy got to do a review on any of the L85s.
Getting any version of the British L-85 is not going to happen. Due to Federal anti-gun legislation. The Federal Firearms Act of 1984 stopped the importation of most firearms. Unless there is a specific amount of US made parts. This is how various Kalashnikov rifles are imported into the US. So if someone in the UK can make a contract with one of the US manufacturers to finish the assembly for sale in the American market there can be a tremendous benefit. Importation of certain firearms is just prohibited by US Federal law. This is why Sig, H&K, Beretta and FN have factories in the US. A new rifle in the American market is the Croatian VHS bullpup rifle. HS Produkt of Croatia and Springfield Armory of the USA made contractual agreements. HS Produkt makes the VHS rifle with some modifications and Springfield Armory make certain parts to make the rifle legal. This is a tremendous opportunity for HS Produkt in that there were $1.7 million in sales to the USA in 2022 alone. The VHS rifle was renamed the Hellion for the American market. So whoever makes the L-85/SA-80, may just want to get themselves an opportunity like HS Produkt has done.
@@discipleaj Similarly to you I never had a chance to use the A1 but got my hands on an L22 (the carbine variant derived from the L86) that were all built to the A2 standard and it was fantastically reliable. Never had a significant problem with it although as I was RN I dealt with a lot less sand than our lads that used them in the Middle East.
As a fan of compact things, who has never fired a rifle in my life, i think Bullpups are the best! i mean it just makes soo much sense to me, to have a full barrell in a compact system! instead of all that "wasted space" in the buttstock🤷♂
I have a Tavor, not the X95 but the original version. I like it quite a bit, especially with the geissele trigger pack. My main complaint I would say it’s a bit of a heavy rifle compared to an AR, although it’s well balanced. Big height over bore too. Shoots well and is really smooth overall tho. Very reliable thru thousands of rounds. Suppressors are forbidden fruit in my free country tho so can’t speak from that perspective.
I have the same setup as you, but I’m sorry you can’t own suppressors. I’ve always said they are good for the environment, less flame, protect local wild life’s hearing and reduce particulates of lead in the air. Trudeau should legalize them
I love my Tavor but I do not disagree with this review. I would not recommend it as a first rifle, it takes practice to get comfortable with it, and I do not run it suppressed. Thank you for sharing your review!
Treat the trigger like it's a pistol trigger and it'll make sense. Don't forget everything about this weapon is for battle CQB. The trigger also has dual springs, in case something happens to one it's still usable
I love mine. Ergonomically it take getting used too. For the Canadian market i think its one of our best option. You know…for hunting and shooting paper targets…
I was in the IDF and had M4A1 and M16 tbh never heard too many complaints or problems from fellow friends about the Tavor, but never been too interested. I do know that the idf cares a lot about malfunctioning bc our training had a lot of scenarios and what to do with them.
Mike is when the meds are working, Micah is when the meds make you eat del taco at 3am while screaming in a freddie mercury impression at an empty dumpster.
I took IMI's Tavor Operator's course, it gave me a real appreciation for the engineering that went into the gun and confidence in its reliability. That said despite all of their instructor's denials the X95 is a 2.5-3 MOA gun on a very good day. Which is good enough for what role it is meant for but far less than an equivalent priced AR and they need to come to terms with that.
I called IWI US support - While the gas escaping bothers some people (there is a video on this on IWI's RUclips Channel) running the X95 suppressed should not cause any accelerated wear on the weapon. If the gas bothers you when running suppressed or not, the video I mentioned has nice hack to address. Also, they do have GREAT support so if you ever do run in to an issue, just call them!
I'd love to see something about the CZ Bren 2. How it stacks up against the older 805 and especially against a Scar, which people like to compare these guns to
I’ve got a tavor, in .308 flavor. I love it👍. My kid calls it my halo gun. I used to have a 556 tavor but had to sell it for monetary reasons. I loved that one also. Btw, I’m a very casual shooter with expensive tastes. I don’t kick in doors, I don’t hunt down felons, I’m just an average fat guy with some nice guns so take my likes from that standpoint.
As a long time Tavor and X95 shooter: It’s always nice to see the platform getting wider acceptance. But also I recognize everything has its limitations.
@@jarvy251 it definitely has some utility being non-restricted with an 18.5” barrel and yet still the same overall length as my 10.5 AR with a flash can
Thanks for making a video on this rifle. Really interesting. It seems like if IWI took the adjustable gas settings and ambidextrous bolt swap capability of the Tavor 7 amd added them to the X95, it would be much improved. Hopefully IWI listens. Looking forward to a video on the Tavor 7.
Love the channel. I'm stuck up here in Chinada and I picked up an x95 for a semi auto because it is non restricted and I can take it anywhere too train with where as anything remotely AR was limited to gun ranges and mandatory registration and now they are outright banned. this country sucks balls
Not banned yet. It is a bill that is still in progress and keeps getting delayed. I highly doubt it will pass because there is already very strong resistance even from local police stations.
Charlie “Let me check the hold like Mike did.” Haha!!! Too funny!!! Also calling Mike out for running the Bill drill twice!!! Classic and hilarious!!! This channel is awesome!!! 👍🇺🇸👍🇺🇸👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸👍🇺🇸
Israeli born geneticist Dr. According to Eran Elhaik's latest genetic research, today's Israelis are descended from the Khazar Turks, not from the Middle East.
@@bumingokturk7870 Why is this so important to you? You have posted this in every video with a Tavor in it. It has nothing to do with the subject matter of these videos. Now that you have posted this comment, ad nauseam, many times over in each video, can we get back to discussing the damned rifles?
Garand Thumb’s production quality is so insane, and in the end it’s just a bunch of idiots playing around having fun. I love this channel.
I feel like during WROL they'd be cracking jokes over dead bodies...and that's when to avenge your grandma.
They make millions of dollars it's not that surprising jfc
@@nonyabusiness1126 man wtf r u talking about
“Just a bunch of idiots” lol no bro, it’s Leviathan Group corrupting the meaning of the 2nd Amendment through social media influencers.
@@southernsteel4476 i don't know about that 😂
Unlike the X95, the Tavor 7 has an adjustable gas block. And it's in .308. And you can get a 20" barrel kit for it (or leave it with the 16"). And you can lock the charging handle back by tilting it up slightly to do a bullpup HK slap.
What I'm trying to get at here is do a video on the Tavor 7.
IWI really needs to update the X95 with the benefits of the 7. One of the biggest being able to swap the left hand eject without needs additional parts.
Only real downside to the 7 is that it’s unreliable with harder primers.
Do you have one?? I've got some questions if you do- having some serious trouble getting to zero with multiple optics on my 7. Always seeming to drift to the right, no matter what optic I throw on or how I adjust the mounting system.
I recently brought home my T7FD16. I really like it. I call her Sandy
@@Dylan-nv9sc The X95 in 300 BLK has an adjustable gas block. I'm sort of finding out now the 5.56 doesn't.
@@WKidd1776 I haven't had that issue with mine, since multiple optics are doing it my only guess is there's something weird on going on with the rail on the gun itself. It is removable, so maybe the screws just aren't fully tightened or something? I'd get in touch with IWI and see if they can figure it out.
I think the thing that people often don't appreciate about the Tavor - it was designed by IWI for use by the IDF. Full stop. So the engineers designed the rifle with very specific use scenarios and didn't care that in all these other scenarios it wouldn't be as ideal. In the West we tend to build our weapons as versatile as possible, with the maximum ability to modify uses; but the Tavors are the opposite. It is intended to be used by frontline IDF troops, entirely manufactured in Israel (as a result of previous Western arms embargos). I love my X95 and use it for a ton of things, but if I am carrying for a situation it isn't ideal I switch back over to something else that is. The Tavor is a work truck - meant for the job site, so don't expect leather and a heated seat.
Well said.
Best explanation possible
Well then they should have made the front thinner so you could do a proper C-clamp grip but they didn't and that's why I have a Springfield Hellion
@@ALJR223we never used c clamp grip in Iraq. You can't maintain that grip fighting or walking around for hours
People in the service, if they run with the M4, they will never exchange it to this gun... The joke is that the mtavor did not have automatic fire. SOF which Mtar are in service, I think there is automatic fire there
I don't know why this video popped into my algorithm, but I'll leave a comment.
I served 3 years with this rifle in a special ops unit (and still do in reserves) in the IDF and I've been trained by one of the first officers to receive this rifle and basically formed the fighting methodology with this rifle for the IDF.
First of all, you're using it mostly right so that's good. But the major thing to understand with this rifle is that it was designed for the IDF infantry and how the ground forces operate in combat. There are several versions of the service Tavor( the x95 is the micro Tavor- the older brother is the Tavor), with a longer barrel for sharpshooters and grenade launchers.
Yes, it is less accurate, but I've seen very long and great shots with this one. The IDF mostly fights in urban areas rather than open areas, so its more efficient to have a shorter rifle that is less accurate but is very reliable (and it is, it shoots even when its full of mud) that can "catch corners" easier and is very easy to use.
And let's not forget, it's cheaper to make these than to buy M4s from the US.
Thanks sincerely for posting that info, and much respect to you and for your service to Israel. :)
Thank you for your service, am Israel chai
Gd bless you brother i hope it's serving you well right now. be matzliach
ימלך אחי. שמור על עצמ
One thing that is interesting, I'm guessing it's mostly because of politics but the tavor is going to not be used in the army anymore. (as in new soldiers won't be training on them. Obviously anyone who used one will still use it and even during reserves but the army is going to stop using it and move everyone to M4s)
GT: “We wanted to keep this as close to stock as possible.”
Also GT: “We installed the Geissele trigger”
But i dont see problem cuz its military rifle and they always put some kind of upgrade you Can even get that from IWI
@@juanramirez7108 I don’t imagine that most IDF soldiers issued that rifle get the Geissele trigger on their rifle designed for CQB. If that was the case then it would be the standard trigger sold with the rifle from the factory that way.
You're 100% correct. Thank you for pointing it out. Dumbest review ever.
Israeli born geneticist Dr. According to Eran Elhaik's latest genetic research, today's Israelis are descended from the Khazar Turks, not from the Middle East.
@@bumingokturk7870 I fail to see how this is relevant to discussions relating to the trigger pack on the Tavor.
Just came here to say thanks for changing the game when it comes to gun videos. People will be chasing you for years dude.
Agreed bro,checked out ur channel,subbed🙂
Fun fact: Almost all gun tubers (including GT) are controlled by the Leviathan Group. Leviathan is Hebrew 🙃
Woah it's the real life soyjak in the flesh!
Subbed brother
arthur Koestler advances the thesis that Ashkenazi Jews are not descended from the historical Israelites of antiquity, but from Khazars, a Turkic people originating in and populating an empire north of and between the Black Sea and Caspian Sea.
As a hobbyist videographer it’s always a blast to see micah just have fun with the edits. 10/10 bro
So we’re all back here since the whole Israel thing huh?
Yeah,and if you support them you're a lost cause
@@Remix2366 so what I should support Islamic terrorists instead?
@@Remix2366if you support terrorists youre a lost cause
@@Remix2366 lol, seethe Israel won
@@IamLiterallyHim ..won? We haven't even seen the dynamics of the war yet. Nobody's won anything yet
After serving 18 years in the french army,using the Famas all this time, I'll say this: the same things that you say about bullpup system ,we are saying about the AR platform, we began using for a couple of years the HK416....learning all over again the manual of arms....front heavy, weird way to change the mag, the mag ejection button actuated by the kit etc etc....😁 so basically, it's just a question of habit ,training and adaptation to what you have to use as a given platform
Yeah whatever bullpup defender
Nerd
What's your opinion on the quick firerate of the famas?
Gross a left handers opnion.
Did your kit come with white flags?
It wouldn't be a Sunday without a Garand Thumb upload! Never dissapoints!
I'm with ya' @ 100%!!!
It's the ONLY way to start the week!!
This is a racist country that absolutely wants Europeans to go extinct.
@@Minuteman4Jesus it definitely helps start the week with a bang
Fun fact: Almost all gun tubers (including GT) are controlled by the Leviathan Group. Leviathan is Hebrew 🙃
I understand that at 600yards the accuracy of the Tabor may be less than a modern AR15 but we have to accept the fact that it was made primarily as a CQB.
No one is hitting anything at 600 yards anyway.
@@shroey20 that depends, if you have that kind of range that you can shoot 600 or even more all the time, you can do it with the right AR quite nicely.
sniper rifles exist for a reason you know@@bobbyc2768
The thing about 400 to 600 accuracy, is if you can do it from prone or standing. I can his at 450 yards with great accuracy even in windy conditions...but I need a stable platform and using a sandbag on my stock. A well balanced weapon I can make consistent hits with irons to 300 yards...so what weapon is really more accurate for combat situation?
Why it would be less good on distance ? Depends on the quality...
former idf sniper here. regarding the sling ! i want you to try it. we place one side on the stock and the other above the mag trough the hole right below the picatinny rail. this causes the gun to fall smooth next to your leg instead of across your waist. since the tavor is shorter you can have it fully vertical without torching the ground. it makes more sense once you gear up it feels better not abstracting your mags and being on your side like a pistol
also we charge the riffle with your hand up, while it hurts your arm more its the only way to do so with a mag in your palm
we were also trained to not clear malfunctions with your hands but by charging hard or charging while slaming the stock to the ground.
I love my Tavor and appreciate the tips
@@funnygamer678 What's "charging"?
@@shadowstorm7548 I mean Cocking handle
Who has come to hope Charlie raises the awkward bar every single time we get a new video? He is definitely my spirit animal
Gaaaayyy
Should probably stick to the scientific videos. His scientific analysis is too accurate
arthur Koestler advances the thesis that Ashkenazi Jews are not descended from the historical Israelites of antiquity, but from Khazars, a Turkic people originating in and populating an empire north of and between the Black Sea and Caspian Sea.
Israeli born geneticist Dr. According to Eran Elhaik's latest genetic research, today's Israelis are descended from the Khazar Turks, not from the Middle East.
@@Millstone_Justice he definitely is and it’s 1 of my favorite personas on RUclips or anywhere else. His dedication to “Charlie” is awesome and he plays it to a T
First mountain Jews. Now regular Jews. What’s next? Apple Jews?
Orange Jews, grape Jews...
epstein island jews
Jew Jews
oh he hasn’t heard about Rosh Hashanah
Oy vey
I’ve got the X95 in 300BLK and love it. The 300BLK variant has a 2-position adjustable gas key but works fine with my deadair sandman s without adjustment. Be prepared to spend $1k to make it right. I’ve upgraded some factory parts with Manticore Arms parts. Upgraded the actual trigger with the Geissele Lightning Bow and that was a major improvement. Saving up for the Geissele trigger pack.
Gun is amazing right ? 5.56 without flinching off targets between shots ? Just wanna confirm your experience. Maybe not ?
M4 always moved out of target after every shot because the recoil was more front based
@Langley D, I bought the OSS suppressor (Hxwrx) for my 300 BLK variant and I also bought the Manticore gasket for the left side's ejector port and the Geissele trigger and FCG and WOW, best bull pup on earth with these mods, IMHO. You won't be disappointed with Geissele's FCG once you install it
How's the body construction considering it's polymer, do you think it will last like an AKM or AR15
I have an X95 .300 Blackout, and it does have an adjustable gas block for switching to suppressed & subsonic ammo. I agree w/ some of the other issues stated though, but Manticore Arms is a solid one stop shop for fairly inexpensive corrections. I put on the aluminum M-Lok guard, which runs right up to the muzzle device and free floats the barrel. I replaced the charging handle & rod with one that folds flat, and the safety switch and indicator w/ two full fledged ambi-safety switches that are low profile. Oh, and I replaced the port cover with one that's made of milled aluminum with a heavy duty gasket - no more Tavor face. Next steps are to replace the trigger group & bow w. the Geissele Super Sabra Trigger pack, and the Lightning Bow Trigger, as well as getting a Dead Air can for it. Bidenomic's has slowed down those last two acquisitions... oh - and the fact I accidentally dropped the rifle in a lake. tragic accident. made me cry.
So basically, as long as you change everything but the barrel, it's a great weapon.
@@soul8bounce NO Deen, that would be the conclusion of someone using a reductive argument would come to. It's already a great rifle, it just get's better with a little additional work. See - I'm not going to be crawling through sand and mud with it in a combat situation, so I can make different choices than the IDF, because I understand that you don't want a light trigger on a combat rifle lest it be accidentally discharged more easily, that the light weight polymer handguard is a better choice for most, and a charging handle that doesn't fold is more rugged and less prone to breakage. I'm sorry - but your take.. well it lacks intelligence. while were here, let's discuss AR platform modding... no one does that right? cause every AR works perfectly for every person and use case right out of the box?
OH - and lets not forget the key point was - you can get an X95 thats made to be suppressed, his negatives were mostly built up around that, and it just came down to him having the wrong caliber. the .300 blackout version is the bees knees.
When he says the gun will be wrecked if I run a silencer does that mean the silencer will destroy the weapon or just make it too dirty?
@@davidlane07 I believe that hes talking about internal damage because there is no adjustable gas block on the one he had, meaning he would still have to fire supersonic rounds, which combined with a suppressor would cause significant overpressure. an adjustable gas block would allow for the firing of subsonic ammunition, allowing you to tune how much gas is is being used to cycle the action.
@@davidlane07 When they say a rifle is "overgassed" when running a suppressor or that it will "wreck the rifle", what they mean is that when you fire the gun there is extra gas in the system which thus causes the bolt to slam back harder. This happens because the suppressor is trapping the gas and less gas is being expelled out of the front. The gas is instead running back through the gas system and/or the chamber and out of the back (called gas blowback). The 'slamming of the bolt back harder' increases wear and tear on the internals of the rifle. The silencer won't "destroy" the weapon per say... it'll just make it wear out faster.
It also makes it dirty but that really doesn't hurt the weapon, as long as you clean and lube it after every use. A lot of people say you don't need to do that and that you only need to clean modern weapons every 1000 rounds. I say bullshit because the lube helps the internal metal on metal moving parts last longer.
"where's Abby Shapiro?"
Garand thumb is a man of culture
Gib milk pls
@@nox_chan she could feed a kosher village
Khazar milkers, oy vey
🍈 🍈 🖐️ 😳
@@KS-yg9jr wait till they put shekels in their shotgun shells , a shekel for a good goy the redneck way baby
I've had the original Tavor (pre-X95) for about eight years now. I bought it right before the X-95 was rolled out. The factory trigger was simply awful but easily corrected with the Geissele drop in you and others have mentioned. I'm a recently retired DEA agent and used an approved 16" LWRCI AR at work for search warrants and other enforcement operations. Can't tell you how much easier, smoother, and more ergonomic I found the Tavor for building clearing and was so frustrated it was a weapon I couldn't use at work. So much easier to smoothly pivot through a house's doorways and corners with that short bullpup instead of a full length AR. I think those constricted urban spaces and buildings are where you really start to appreciate the advantages of bullpups and are more forgiving of their weaknesses. Great review! Thanks for finally doing the Tavor!
Sure seems to be working pretty well. I’ve talked to Israelis who have been using it not just in the ongoing new war but the last couple years and they are all extremely impressed with the weapon and not just for CQB.
I wotked borqder security in Israel for years using tavor. I prefer tavor over the classic m4 for combat
my boy
Its for.surpsed ,but not for your avrge american supresor
How it’s it possible to talk to a rat?
@@RustieFawnAh, you are so wise.
Once you get used to it, it's quite a pleasant gun to shoot, and in any real combat scenario, size matters, especially on the move.
I'm Marine Corps retired, I've shot the Tavor X95, It's a superb battle rifle, that said, I'll never get used to Bullpup designs, swapping out mags is just awkward, when you've gotten used to the M4, or the M14
Would love to see an update on the MDR in this style, maybe the 308 this time around. I feel like putting all the common bullpups against each other with all of you competing would help out a lot of people on the fence about these.
I second this.
Ditto. Tavor 7, MDRx, and RFB Defender go head-to-head-to-head! Or stick with 5.56 and also throw the Hellion (VHS-2) into the mix.
Israeli born geneticist Dr. According to Eran Elhaik's latest genetic research, today's Israelis are descended from the Khazar Turks, not from the Middle East.
Don't forget the M17S.
yes please!
It seems like not everybody was in the best mood at the start, but it was awesome to see the mood immediately cheer up when you started shooting. Y'all have great chemistry 😁
Love my Tavor X95. Been waiting for (3) years and counting to buy any common spare parts. You break your firing pin, loss a spring, etc. . You have to buy a new Tavor fir spare parts.
My guess is being back in pnw.
@@warrenharrison9490 Pretty sure this was shot in the fall before the snow hit. Source: I live in PNW
Been watching this channel since the beginning. Micah liking one piece is my favorite content you have ever put out.
@@gokissasickmonkeyswetass Yeah I looked up parts late last year because I wanted that thing that helps with gas blowback when putting a can on a Tavor. Like every Tavor part was sold out, including that part. But it only took me about 5 minutes to find a site that had it in stock, which was Optics Planet, except after submitting the order, they said it was on backorder, and pushed back a couple times, with now early February being the date it's expected LOL.
You have any idea what's up with the lack of parts? I did get some extra parts like a year ago or whenever, before the shortage hit. Figured it was a good idea to have some spares.
One of the best rifles I had ever used in my service as para sf😊
Indian Para sf? Jai Hind sir
An interesting review, from the point of view of a civilian purchaser. This rifle was designed for the military and even the IDF didn't outfit all its units with it, to this day. The M4 and variations play a huge role, the reserve soldiers are mostly equipped with M16s of various shapes and forms, the reality is more complicated.
Love my x95, essentially a bullpup AK that takes stanag mags. Just started running a VG and it changed the whole feel, running the trusty aimpoint pro it's been absolutely bombproof for 3000 rounds.
the 3 of you doing drills was actually hilarious. want to see more of it.
Israeli born geneticist Dr. According to Eran Elhaik's latest genetic research, today's Israelis are descended from the Khazar Turks, not from the Middle East.
It’s a compromised system but one important aspect for some of us is that it is compliant with mass laws while remaining short overall, using ar mags, having a pistol grip (gauntlet), and being as close to an sbr style weapon system as is possible within the draconian state laws. It’s definitely quirky in some ways but I’ve grown quite fond of it over the years, heavy but well balanced, it runs reliably and it is a unique conversation piece at the range. If it weren’t for laws, I’d trade it and a not inconsiderable amount of money for a gq paladin carbon in 8.6 in a heartbeat.
Here in Canada, we don’t have access to the AR15 platform. However, we have clone firearms of the AR180 and we have the Tavor. For us, those are better options when no AR is available to the market.
The level of suppressed affection that exists between these guys warms my heart. I like the drills better than the intros. Please keep including them in the videos.
Israeli born geneticist Dr. According to Eran Elhaik's latest genetic research, today's Israelis are descended from the Khazar Turks, not from the Middle East.
@@bumingokturk7870 and...
@@SL4US it is what it is
I never noticed too much wrecking of parts with a Sandman S but you are spot on with the MOA expectations. I'll add that parts are INCREDIBLY hard to come by, the 9mm kits are canceled, 300blk kits are hard to find and the trigger components from Geissele are expensive for what they are. Still miss mine and I'll probably buy another some day
Yes, I’m using a sandman k on the original Tavor and haven’t seen any issues. I know spare parts is an issue but I have other firearms if I really get screwed with a broken part, and spare parts to work on that other firearm.
Its a bitch finding parts. I just want yo get that 64 dollar spare parts kit
@@timunderbakke8756 well that's because the sandman K has almost no suppression. You're running a glorified blast diverter. I too have one and I hate myself for buying one
Israeli born geneticist Dr. According to Eran Elhaik's latest genetic research, today's Israelis are descended from the Khazar Turks, not from the Middle East.
i wish they'd bring back the 9mm kits. and im super lucky to have gotten mine in .300 blk, the things been tuned to high hell by its previous owner. its also more manticore arms than it is stock at this point
It's meant to be used in every invierment, includind sand reach ones. That's why it's so "gassy". Also, in israel we rarely use supressers, especialy in the military.
For short people like me (5'0"), bullpups are great. My arm from armpit to wrist is only 19 inches long. Shooting an AR-15 is difficult even with a front grip because my arms are extended to their maximum, and I can't quite keep her steady. I bought a Tavor SAR instead. With the weight to the back of the weapon at my shoulder and the shorter overall length, I can hold it more steady and fire more rapidly with greater accuracy. For all those gun guys married to short wpmen, a bullpup might be the way to turn her into a gun gal! Seriously, I am more inclined to ask for a range day since acquiring my Tavor.
The production is getting so fucking good Mr. Thumb. Been here a long time and it’s amazing to see how for the content has come.
MISTA FAMB
I'm still thinking about that dope wild west intro.
Of all the firearms I have owned, selling the X95 and the SAR are two of my biggest regrets. Been looking at reacquiring an X95 ever since, but yet again, I am constantly financially defeated by rent. Very well done video, you've been a top-tier firearms channel here and continue to rise above. Excellent work, keep it up!
Try Keith Kalfas videos for some side hustle money.
This is by far the best cinematography of any GunTuber channel. Better than 1911 Syndicate, T-Rex Arms, and the other "pretty good" camera-work channels.
PSR is pretty close
I've been running an X95 since early 2017. I love it & it's my primary. It's actually not bad if you are going for speed because of the recoil impulse and rear weight. I haven't really thought about sealing the left port cover. I might look into that.
Manticore Arms makes a gasketed port cover
I ordered the Gear Head Works Fulcrum from Optics Planet last month, it was in stock when I clicked the button, of course goes to backorder once my order is submitted. It's supposed to be coming in February. I've read a few times that it works well.
@@clamum9648 I put one on my SAR21 and it does work very well. It also gave me an additional QD point for sling placement. I am getting 1.5 MOA with quality ammo. With the 77 grn. Sierra Matchking bullet hand loads, I am getting .75 MOA to 1.25 MOA with my rifle. It is a SAR21 with the 18" bbl. I installed the Geissele trigger, with the stock trigger linkage. It made a huge difference. This trigger has a nice, crisp break and it brought the trigger pull weight down from ~ 12 lbs. to 4 lbs. measured on a Lyman trigger pull gauge. I have made no other changes to this rifle. I've been told that the 18" barrels were designed to be more accurate, for use as a DMR by the IDF before they switched to the X95. I don't know how true that is but I know that I am getting good accuracy with my rifle.
@@roadapple66 Nice! Sounds good. I admittedly haven't shot mine in a while but I thought it was getting less than 2 MOA, at the worst. I'll have to see next time, though I don't have good ammo, just cheap 55gr stuff. Also only have an EOTech on it, where a scope would probably give me better accuracy due to clearer sight of target.
I did the manticore port cover it's way better then electrical tape I was using lol
Charlie's competitive nature really showed in this episode.
Israeli born geneticist Dr. According to Eran Elhaik's latest genetic research, today's Israelis are descended from the Khazar Turks, not from the Middle East.
Israeli People are fake jewish (the are khazar jewish)
the origin jewish are black like ethopians jews
A fire rate of six million rounds in 4 seconds? I just can't believe it.
Honestly not surprised the Israeli bull pup is way over GASSED
It is mathematically impossible and also no evidence for it. Yes, it has shot many rounds, but this figure is greatly exaggerated.
One day for no reason at all I began to hate
I feel so guilty for laughing at these 🤣
One day for no reason at all people started hating the Tavor.
Garand Thumb: “We don’t care about the politics, we’re here to review the X95”.
The comment section: We don’t care about your video, we’re here to argue about politics”.
Love the spicy intro, and so many things to choose from: the rod of Aaron, the trumpet of Gideon, the sword of Peter, etc.
I feel like you’re critiquing one of my kids. My favorite kid. The X95 has its pros and cons just like any other platform. I knew going in that gas might be an issue which is why I have OSS cans that I can run on multiple platforms, not just the X95. The Flow 556k can was made for it! Great combo. Also drop a few bucks on the Manticore Arms ejection port seal and the gas problem becomes nonexistent. I also added the Manticore Optimus handguard which somehow improved the accuracy. I think because it adds more rigidity to the overall frame and essentially free floats the barrel.
After thousands of rounds, I’ve never had a failure of any kind. If the SHTF, this would probably be the first rifle I’d grab. But that’s just me.
Same. Adjusted trigger bow w/ super sabra pack, manticore butt pad and Optimus forend, oss can, and IR designator, plus both iron sights still flip up due to my thought-out rail usage. It's my go-to truck / shtf / night fighter rifle.
@@adamb5438 Yep. Very similar. I’ve also got the Geissele trigger setup. Haven’t landed on a flashlight setup I like yet. Wanted to do a CD Rein but it was too chonky. Need. Something that incorporates that top Mlok slot on the Optimus.
@@comedyoferrors77 I use a Streamlight TLR-1 HL mounted to a small metal picatinny section in that 12 o'clock slot on the Optimus, with the flip switch cap intended for pistols (the tabs wrap around the top rail perfectly) instead of the pressure pad. I can hold down with my left thumb for momentary or press up for always on. Plus it does strobe on double press.
It is a reliable weapon. Works in Deserts as well as Icy cold Himalayan mountains.
And how do u know that
@@jonc2914 How do you know either way?
@@jonc2914Indian forces use the gun
@@jonc2914 Alot of Indian special forces use the gun.
@@MessiAndA3 is that why indians love israel?
Great video and been waiting for the X95 from you. Living in the Burbs' this is my "GTH" rifle. For up close and personal to 300M the X95 is all I need. When installing my Geissele trigger pack and trigger bow I sealed the gas escape routs inside with Black high heat gasket sealer before I put it together. I had the barrel cut to 14.5 inches and pin and welded with a OSS Muzzle Break and added a OSS Free Flow can. Baffled cans are not recommended and there are other choices. Since, I never noticed any gas and this is the softest sweetest shooter. 2.25 MOA is the norm. For my Tavor it is more than adequate for defending anything around my domain. In my neighborhood the longest shot is well within 300M. Keep reaching out to IWI as I would like to see the T7 here as well as the new Carmel.
as a former idf soldier this is the only review i felt like the dude knew what he was saying
regarding the gas and suppress.. its probably due the gun is meant for soldiers that are also training with it during training they get muddy and i think that extra gas is to allow it to cycle dirty . not sure but thats how it seems from my training
From my own testing, removing that little barrel ring depends on how much stuff you have on the polymer handguard rails. If you keep it slick, it doesn't make any noticeable difference. But if you have chonky lights hanging off it or use a vertical grip, you absolutely should remove it. It doesn't "improve" accuracy so much as it preserves accuracy against other factors.
Also highly recommend the ShootingSight high energy recoil spring to help mitigate the overgassing and resulting recoil, and it does not impair reliability unsuppressed. If you're willing to shell out hundreds of dollars to replace a perfectly serviceable trigger, consider dropping 30 bucks on a spring first.
Jarv spotted
@@ohslowpoke4720 o sh
I KNEW YOU WERE HERE
@@mrfreezeable2930 I've been waiting YEARS for this
A wild Jarv was spotted! Love your art btw.
I recently acquired a Tavor 7 and it addressed some of the criticism you have with the X95. It has an adjustable gas block, comes with an ambidextrous fire selector, and the bolt release is no longer on the bottom near the mag well, but rather there's a notch on the charging handle where you lock the bolt and allows you to even give it a classic MP5 slap. I haven't shot it enough to determine gas yet nor have I tried long range, though I do know the system was purposely designed for urban combat which is one of the reasons why the Israelis moved to the Tavor from the M4. I find disassembly to be rather simple as well.
Almost sounds like a famas at that point.
I love my Tavor 7, and yes it is well suited to urban combat.
@Ron Stall he didn’t say the mag release was on the bottom?
Yeah, I would like if iwi updated the X95 with the Tavor 7’s changes with the gas system and charging handle.
@Ron Stall
is there one really? I've actually never noticed haha. As I said, this was a very recent purchase by me.
Edit: I took it out and what do you know, there is a bolt catch and release. I thought that's just where the trigger mechanism resided, I didn't realize you could lock the bolt like that. Learn something new everyday
"Go forth my Gentile" LMFAO
You should try the Tavor 7 in 762x51. It has a 4 way adjustable gas block, and it doesn’t have the rings around the barrel.
It also gets 3-5 moa and is very expensive which makes it pointless.
@@fuckjewtube69 Is your reply from personal experience?
Completely agree with mine. It feels so darn close to perfect. Adjustable gas block, a little lighter, free float barrel and something to protect the mag release a little would make this a contender when competing against even the best ARs.
Yeah if you're gay
@@mrkeleven elementary insults? Are you sure you should be on this platform being so young?
@@Slai47 never heard of RUclips kids?
@@replynotificationsdisabled you think a video like this would prevent them from seeing this video with how YT normally acts towards guns
@@mrkeleven Okay, that was a little funny. *Chuckles*
You just can’t criticize this rifle!
lol
It would be antisemitic.
Shut it down
Every single time
In 35 States it's illegal to NOT sell this rifle because of it's origin.
I prefer the Tavor21 (you guys call them the SAR21 in the US). The podium bipod is great. It's not compatible with the X95. I also prefer the mag release on the Tavor21 to the AR15 style mag release on the X95. If your mag release rod gets mucked up, it will be a pain during mag releases. The charging handle rod on mine snapped in 2 after about 500 rounds. Replaced it with the much better quality Manticore Arms charging handle and rod.
I follow garand thumb to expand my vocabulary 😅 the gun reviews and quirky intros are just an added bonus
You can setup the Lightning Bow trigger to have zero take-up and make it a single stage trigger if you want. Due to the nature of being a bullpup you'll still get some very slight creep, but you'd never notice. It's definitely the best bang for your buck mod available for the X95.
I have both the Giessele lightning link and trigger pack, it is the best trigger I have in any of my bullpups and almost as good of a trigger as my Higher end AR rifles
@@pops55650 I have both of those inbound right now. I am very much looking forward to them.
If you can find one that is. 😬
100% I've dont the full Giselle and it's like a different gun
My X95 is also Geissele'd out and it is so great it makes me wonder if it's reliable. Seems to be so far. It's in that "too good to be true but seems to be true" zone
That rifle is banned in 109 different countries.
I do "not-see" the connection... ;)
@@kmech3rd Ironically, Ukraine's Azov neo-not-see battalion uses Tavors.
for good reason. usury and pedofiles and transitioning operations are bad. And controlling the media and economy.
Billy got kicked out of 109 schools.
But it wasn't his fault, the other kids were just jealous.
If you sucked off a baby,
It would be on the news.
But nothing to see here!
It's only the...
This video really proved, that even if you know how to shoot a gun, practice really does make perfect just look at those GT groupings👌
I think an updated version with an adjustable gas system on this would be a game changer. Being able to run this thing suppressed long term would be very useful for certain agencies and branches. Having a fairly compact cq package like this that is able to be suppressed would be very diverse in the field. The safety is kind of a stupid decision on the style, but as long as it functions correctly and reliable, that’s a small gripe. Overall, I think it’s a pretty cool looking weapon. Out of my price range currently though so I’ll stick to my ar15/10 builds for the time. Maybe one day though.
I agree
I've owned the Tavor SAR21 for almost 10 years. Never bit on the x95, but also own a Tavor 7 now. The gassing on SAR21 and x95 are extremely valid points. Luckily, I have an OSS can. The Tavor7 addresses many of the issues, but it's in 308. The 45 degree throw is ball busting nice on the Tavor7. That itself makes me reach for it half of the time for the range.
The SAR21's charging handle is angled so I could not mount a Dbal D2 on it by itself. I ended up using a Unity Riser to clear my charging handle. I also took a dremel to my SAR21 to mimic the HK lock back on the Tavor7. It works. It freaking works. A much needed improvement in the old design. I'm sure the same could be done to the x95. It makes malfunction clearing so much easier.
As much of a die hard fan I am of my bullpups, Daddy Garand hits all the points on the head. There is no free lunch and I'm surprised he did not complain about the overall weight of the gun vs AR15's. They fit in a lot of engineering upgrades into the Tavor7 but I hope they take it all and make the final, best bullpup on the market in 556. I was not a fan of the MDRX, honestly.
If you look at the old design sketches for the tavor prototype, they clearly had an HK-style lockback. I don't know why they dropped the feature for so long! I'm pretty sure that if I was willing to take a dremel to my X95's polymer body, it would work. (But I'm not)
@@jarvy251 the quality of life enhancement is...amazing. to each and their own with their rifle but I had a tavor7 sitting right next to it for reference.
Agreed on all points.
I too, have had a Tavor SAR for 10 years and it was the first rifle I truly loved. The X95 never really seemed to catch me the way the SAR did. But the Tavor 7 - oh yes... that thing is incredible.
It fixes basically everything he mentions as a problem with the X95 and has an even better trigger - to the point where Geissele hasn't bothered to make a trigger pack for the 7.
Heavy, sure, but you only really notice that when you sling it. When you are shooting the weight is mostly in the back so you don't notice. (My AK feels more heavy and awkward than the 7 does despite being a lot lighter.)
As much as I love the SAR, if I could get the features of the 7 in 556 I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
@@andyinva1098 You can take a dremel and get the HK lock back...lol
Wish I could easily mod the safety for a 45 throw.
I'm thinking of getting an OSS for my SAR, has yours treated your gun well? If my SAR dies in 4k rounds I'd be a little upset...
Manticor arms has the cure for most of the x95 issues. I have the x95 and the tavor 7 and enjoy both of them.
The dad advice is always on point
Fantastic
As a former IDF paratrooper, I was always happy that I had an M4 and not a Tavor. The Tavor is a cool gun, but always felt impractical to me for anything aside from CC urban combat settings. The M4 felt much lighter as the weight is better distributed down the frame, and was also more comfortable to me personally as I’m tall and lanky. Regardless, this is a great review, thanks for sharing it!
@Greeszed Pig cope
Dear Mr Garand Thumb, I am really enjoying the 3 people test hosts, gives better perspective on how the gun would perform on what seems to be a first time user.
Excellent review. My major complaint about the X95 and the SAR before it was the amount of gas you get hit with during shooting sessions. Gotta be honest. As a Jew, it makes me a little uncomfortable to have so much gas blown back into my face 😬🤫. But seriously, there has to be a way that they can mitigate the blowback AND offer an adjustable system. They put an adjustable system on the Tavor 7.
This intro hits different now... homies in the homeland are living milk and honey banger!!!! FOR THE HOLY LAND MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS!! 🤘🔥🔥🔥
I have been using an older IWI Tavor SAR for nearly 10 years. Lot's of abuse. Not the best, but after you get used to it, it's pretty good. Love it for getting in & out of vehicles. AR-15 is better for distance. I have a few videos on my channel with it. Never found the need to move to the X95. I use mine supressed, but cut the barrel & pinned/welded the muzzle device. Still legal length barrel & OAL, but it reduced the gas in the system enough so it isn't crazy. Still slightly over gassed, but not as bad as everyone knows.
Be good if you can get hold of the 3 main iterations of the sa80 and see if it actually improved; it being once of the lower tier bullpups out there
Edit: well this went a couple different directions
Never used the A1 (thank God - too young to have joined at that time). That was terrible and the A1's reputation is what has stuck with the L85 to the present day.
A2 is/was much more reliable and has been used in armed conflicts and won plenty of engagements. It's a battle proven rifle. The issue is that from 2000 onwards, better rifles were available and could have been procured, which is why we could never understand why the L85 was held onto (bean counters digging their heels in i guess). Still, the British Army and Royal Marines have been fighting and winning battles with it and the deployments speak for themselves. The only other rifles I would trust are the X95/Tavor, C8 or an M4. I say that because these rifles are used in conflict and have seen a lot of active use over the last twenty years plus also. They are all battle proven. I can't say that for much else out there. SLR's (FAL's) and G3's would fall into the battle proven category also.
Never used the A3 but I've seen a lot of the blokes compliment it some over the A2. I think the service life of the L85 ends in 2025 anyway and the A3 was just done to extend it up to that point until something new is procured.
Such a shame the L85 kept its bad reputation from the A1. I loved using the A2, apparently the A3 is even better but I was never issued one
I used the -A1 back in the day. It had stoppages quite often especially blank firing. The -A2 really did fix the reliability issues. I'd love it if flannel daddy got to do a review on any of the L85s.
Getting any version of the British L-85 is not going to happen. Due to Federal anti-gun legislation. The Federal Firearms Act of 1984 stopped the importation of most firearms. Unless there is a specific amount of US made parts. This is how various Kalashnikov rifles are imported into the US. So if someone in the UK can make a contract with one of the US manufacturers to finish the assembly for sale in the American market there can be a tremendous benefit. Importation of certain firearms is just prohibited by US Federal law.
This is why Sig, H&K, Beretta and FN have factories in the US. A new rifle in the American market is the Croatian VHS bullpup rifle. HS Produkt of Croatia and Springfield Armory of the USA made contractual agreements. HS Produkt makes the VHS rifle with some modifications and Springfield Armory make certain parts to make the rifle legal. This is a tremendous opportunity for HS Produkt in that there were $1.7 million in sales to the USA in 2022 alone. The VHS rifle was renamed the Hellion for the American market.
So whoever makes the L-85/SA-80, may just want to get themselves an opportunity like HS Produkt has done.
@@discipleaj Similarly to you I never had a chance to use the A1 but got my hands on an L22 (the carbine variant derived from the L86) that were all built to the A2 standard and it was fantastically reliable. Never had a significant problem with it although as I was RN I dealt with a lot less sand than our lads that used them in the Middle East.
Well this video aged interestingly
Charlie never getting SDI right be hilarious everytime lmao
The rifle with an "Early Life" Wikipedia section
Ominous 'hava nagila' always plays when using this rifle.
This rifle advocates for diversity in USA and Europe, but against diversity in the middle east.
Heard it's made from the steel of the USS Liberty
This rifle is only 2% of the population but, owns 97% of Hollywood!
@@u2beuser714 funny you say that....
"They cryout in pain as they beat you." Fitting to the makers of this weapon, and your team.
Kinda useful to see top shots compares side by side with people with far less experience behind a rifle
Chambered .108 Usury
Happy Sunday, fellow Gentiles.
I am goyim, thank you.
Beyond amazing, informative, and humorous content -- editing continues to be on point. I need to know who's doing this?...
It’s yaboi
As a fan of compact things, who has never fired a rifle in my life, i think Bullpups are the best!
i mean it just makes soo much sense to me, to have a full barrell in a compact system! instead of all that "wasted space" in the buttstock🤷♂
Be deliberate with your time is something one of my best friends said he wanted to start doing. I've been thinking the same.
I have a Tavor, not the X95 but the original version. I like it quite a bit, especially with the geissele trigger pack.
My main complaint I would say it’s a bit of a heavy rifle compared to an AR, although it’s well balanced. Big height over bore too. Shoots well and is really smooth overall tho. Very reliable thru thousands of rounds. Suppressors are forbidden fruit in my free country tho so can’t speak from that perspective.
I have the same setup as you, but I’m sorry you can’t own suppressors. I’ve always said they are good for the environment, less flame, protect local wild life’s hearing and reduce particulates of lead in the air. Trudeau should legalize them
I have the same set up with a suppressor. Guess I’m living life dangerously
I love my Tavor but I do not disagree with this review. I would not recommend it as a first rifle, it takes practice to get comfortable with it, and I do not run it suppressed. Thank you for sharing your review!
Treat the trigger like it's a pistol trigger and it'll make sense. Don't forget everything about this weapon is for battle CQB. The trigger also has dual springs, in case something happens to one it's still usable
Ive been saving up to get one of these! Glad to see a review that isnt years old!
I love mine. Ergonomically it take getting used too. For the Canadian market i think its one of our best option. You know…for hunting and shooting paper targets…
I'm still rocking the old Tar21. Love it. F Trudeau and his commie party.
It's on the C-21. Everything is on the list, sooner or later.
@@juztinking8813 c-21 hasn't passed.
If it passes the war is really on
Ah yes, the paper targets with red coats with yellow lined pants.
I was in the IDF and had M4A1 and M16 tbh never heard too many complaints or problems from fellow friends about the Tavor, but never been too interested. I do know that the idf cares a lot about malfunctioning bc our training had a lot of scenarios and what to do with them.
Where in the idf
You know you signed up to not live past 50 by doing that?
@@RustieFawn what do you mean?
Mike is when the meds are working, Micah is when the meds make you eat del taco at 3am while screaming in a freddie mercury impression at an empty dumpster.
I own a X95 and I absolutely love it.
I took IMI's Tavor Operator's course, it gave me a real appreciation for the engineering that went into the gun and confidence in its reliability. That said despite all of their instructor's denials the X95 is a 2.5-3 MOA gun on a very good day. Which is good enough for what role it is meant for but far less than an equivalent priced AR and they need to come to terms with that.
2-3 MOA is the same as military grade m4s.
I called IWI US support - While the gas escaping bothers some people (there is a video on this on IWI's RUclips Channel) running the X95 suppressed should not cause any accelerated wear on the weapon. If the gas bothers you when running suppressed or not, the video I mentioned has nice hack to address. Also, they do have GREAT support so if you ever do run in to an issue, just call them!
Great 3d print design on thingiverse for a deflector. No charge.
I'd love to see something about the CZ Bren 2. How it stacks up against the older 805 and especially against a Scar, which people like to compare these guns to
I’ve got a tavor, in .308 flavor. I love it👍. My kid calls it my halo gun. I used to have a 556 tavor but had to sell it for monetary reasons. I loved that one also. Btw, I’m a very casual shooter with expensive tastes. I don’t kick in doors, I don’t hunt down felons, I’m just an average fat guy with some nice guns so take my likes from that standpoint.
Thank you for the great review! Really dig the style of this weapon…As with most things in life this firearm has it’s quirks..
As a long time Tavor and X95 shooter: It’s always nice to see the platform getting wider acceptance. But also I recognize everything has its limitations.
Yes, one of those limitations unfortunately is being Canadian and our lack of options 😂
@@adamg574 My X95 made me sell my AR loooooong before they were banned
@@jarvy251 it definitely has some utility being non-restricted with an 18.5” barrel and yet still the same overall length as my 10.5 AR with a flash can
@@adamg574 And yet, it feels so good with the 13" factory SBR setup...
Thanks for making a video on this rifle. Really interesting. It seems like if IWI took the adjustable gas settings and ambidextrous bolt swap capability of the Tavor 7 amd added them to the X95, it would be much improved. Hopefully IWI listens.
Looking forward to a video on the Tavor 7.
With everything going on in Mexico right now, I’d like to see a review of the government’s FX-05 Xiuhcoatl, or “Fire Serpent,” rifle.
Man i bet that thing can sink a ship like the USS liberty
Careful. The elf lovers might wake up
Yeah even the USA said they were partly to blame but let’s keep talking about anti semitic conspiracies. Dipshit
Ah I remember that incident. Was quite inspiring to see our greatest ally saving American sailors from the sinking ship.
Gods chosen greatest ally’s
Israel did 9/11.
Israeli weapons def got my attention that I even ended up getting a Galil Ace by IWI in 556. Regret not also getting the original one in 762.
Just talking about Israel shouldn’t be controversial
A lot of people prefer to stick their head in the sand
Love the channel. I'm stuck up here in Chinada and I picked up an x95 for a semi auto because it is non restricted and I can take it anywhere too train with where as anything remotely AR was limited to gun ranges and mandatory registration and now they are outright banned. this country sucks balls
Oof
They’re not banned yet. Bill c21 hasn’t passed. Buy one regardless of what you think is coming. Better to have one than to not.
Not banned yet. It is a bill that is still in progress and keeps getting delayed. I highly doubt it will pass because there is already very strong resistance even from local police stations.
Don't comply.
Wtf is Chinada?
Charlie “Let me check the hold like Mike did.” Haha!!! Too funny!!! Also calling Mike out for running the Bill drill twice!!! Classic and hilarious!!! This channel is awesome!!! 👍🇺🇸👍🇺🇸👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸👍🇺🇸
Israeli born geneticist Dr. According to Eran Elhaik's latest genetic research, today's Israelis are descended from the Khazar Turks, not from the Middle East.
@@bumingokturk7870 Why is this so important to you? You have posted this in every video with a Tavor in it. It has nothing to do with the subject matter of these videos. Now that you have posted this comment, ad nauseam, many times over in each video, can we get back to discussing the damned rifles?
One of the few cool rifles still legal to own in Canada
not for much longer 😔
I was unaware the 5.56mm version didn't have an adjustable gas block. I have the .300BLK and it easily switches for suppressor use and does very well.
Interesting I didn’t know that. Makes a .300 x95 look a lot more interesting.
Same here!
Your content is always an education + entertainment. Never fails to amaze me!
In my day it was M16A1 and A2. When I was retiring they were talking about going to the M4.