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My Week With The Radeon RX 6500 XT...
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- Опубликовано: 14 авг 2024
- Today we're taking a look at the AMD Radeon RX 6500 XT with both my old PCIe 3.0 system as well as my newer PCIe 4.0 PC. This card seems to have escaped inflated prices here in the U.K, and it's regularly in stock, but can it offer an enjoyable gaming experience?
Thanks to Ebuyer (Check out their range of AMD cards here):
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6500 XT Used In This Video:
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0:00 Introduction and Specs
1:52 Test Setups - PCIe 3.0 and PCIe 4.0
2:44 The Witcher 3
3:33 Far Cry 6
4:38 Cyberpunk 2077
5:37 Forza Horizon 5
6:40 GTA V
7:34 Halo Infinite
8:27 Ray Tracing Test - Cyberpunk 2077
9:24 Conclusion
The fact that this card escaped the scalpers makes it quite a nice choice for those looking to upgrade from an old GPU without spending too much
True...for APU users who can't afford more than $300 for a GPU
The 4GB of VRAM is to thank for that.
Not in my country sadly
Yeah a couple of people I know are glad to be able to upgrade from their iGPUs
It's still a terrible deal tho
Those RDNA2 APU's are giving you nearly the same performance as this card with their integrated graphics
In a few months we will see thin and light laptops and nucs using those RDNA2 APU's
That will make this card obsolete
For someone looking to upgrade an old PC to play modern games the RTX 3050/used 1660ti/1650 super makes more sense
And for someone who is building a new PC it makes more sense to get a laptop with the ryzen 6000 APU's
For £200 or thereabouts in a market where other new cards cost very much more this card's great for those who've been stuck on something like a 1050 Ti or lower. Not everyone can afford the latest and greatest or is happy risking problems with a second hand card. In that context for a lot of people the RX 6500 XT makes sense.
AMD took advantage of desperate gamers lmao. if they would have released the card in a time where there won't have been a GPU drought then this card would have eaten dust in shelves.
@@fenixspider5776 for real. i picked up a Rx5700 just as covid started making the rounds for £300. that price seems like a bargain now
there's a used Sapphire Pulse RX 580 8Gb on ebay for £199.99 which is faster and has twice the VRAM. Also the 6500 XT only has 8 PCIe lanes which is okay on a PCIe 4 motherboard but for people on a PCIe 3 or older motherboard, 8 PCIe lanes will tank the performance.
@@fenixspider5776 it wouldn't be eating dust on shelves because the price would have been close to £100 in normal conditions. Cards like the GTX 1030 or GT 710 in that ultra low price bracket were never eating dust.
@@MarkLikesCoffee860 firstly a pulse rx580 8gb isn't faster in most modern games. Secondly, you're talking about a second hand card with no warranty that is already 6 years old at this point and has probably been ran to death mining. You can buy a 6500xt new today for 175 pounds on overclockers.
Honestly, I’m happy about it. It was the perfect stop-gap card for my wife as she decided to start getting into PC gaming late last year. She is starting with casual games, so by the time she needs something stronger, I should hopefully have a shot at getting something better!
Happy for you man^^
I kind of like ray tracing at low resolution, it's the VHS of video gaming.
You won't notice RT is there (you'll barely notice anything at all at that resolution LOL), but still interesting it works.
@@JaimeIsJaime nah, try any games with RTGI. Those games looks so much better at any resolution.
@@JaimeIsJaime haha... I plan to buy a 12 inch monitor just to use 1078x578p upscaled on a 1280x720p screen... Why... Because I'm trying to improve my eyesight... 2... Because I can...
@@samuelswenson1505 My mom always told me not to sit too close to the screen lol
Fsr exists lol
Yet ANOTHER reason to hang onto my GTX 1070!
gtx1070 still kicks ass in my opinion
im actually planning to upgrade to a 1070 in 2022 lmao
6500 XT is a good upgrade path for cash-strapped APU users...not for a 1070 user obviously
Still a beast!
Lol I was thinking the exact same thing. I have a msi gtx 1070 and I have no plans to upgrade for at least 2 or 3 years, maybe longer.
In Mexico, Where I live it´s at about the same price, some times a bit cheapper than the 1050Ti. So I think it´s a great option.
I got it specifically because of that, it was 5600 pesos on Amazon
A brand new 1650 is like 8000 so this was a much better option
It was 5,600 mexican pesos (276USD) for a very short period of time (good luck finding one for that price now), an "ok" buy if you already have PCI-E 4.0. For the amount of hardware compromises this card has you're better off getting a second hand RX 570/RX 5500XT which are very commonly on sale on FB marketplace for around the same price.
It is significantly faster than 1050Ti even with PCIe 3.0
gtx 1050 ti never should have been bought rx 480 same price 100% more power
rx 570 even cheaper rx 6500xt same as rx 480
The only "new" GPU in market that mantains a price near msrp.
@Konstantin P. Actually a lot of people need it, very good price near msrp but the thing is you need mainboard have pcie 4.0 which mean mainly for main Z
@@igm1571 GTX 1060 level cards are the most common on Steam. Why would PCIE 3 owners even be considering this? It's purely for new system owners.
Actually in Germany the msrp price was 299€ before, yet you can find cards for 239€
cheaper than ex mining rig rx 580 4gb in my place
@@killarun4288 Except the 580 also has encoding, x16, and an 8 gig option. This product is unacceptable
I'd be interested to see how well it does against some older cards, here in South Africa this card works out cheaper than a gtx 1650 and gtx 1050ti yet with pcie gen 4 seems to be able to out perform both
I chose this over the 1650 because I have an i5 11400 using gen 4. It does the job well. Still have to try flight sim though, with the low vram..
This card is gobs faster than a 1050ti in almost any scenario.
Take a look at gamers nexus, hardware unboxed data. You'll see exactly how it performs to compare to your market options used and new
@@aidenswartz8502 my friend plays DCS with it at high, gets 45FPS in multiplayer lobbies. You should be fine
@@evers6214 not really. At pcie 3.0, this card is around the same performance as a 1050ti. This card is the biggest joke this decade.
Actually this card is a smart move by AMD. According to the actual situation with scalpers and miners this card is absolutely not an option for these people. But for games on 1080p it is indeed a great card.
I have and i can often play at 4k no problem. Shit like MGS5, War Thunder, Fallout...
Playable but not high refresh rate I imagine
@@user-jw2ol3dq2z idk wtf happened to it. It broke before the month but i was able to get a full refund.
And I mean, if you want 4k 120 fps just get a series x.
I did that with the refund money.
@@Ordoabchao-x9k what brand
@@Ordoabchao-x9k probably just bad luck.
That's what warranties are for.
I think the other reviewers really went in too hard on this card. Got it for £199 online (BRAND NEW) as I have looked for a card for awhile, cards on ebay are going for £300/400+. I bought one to have for my sons gaming pc. It was running a poor nvidia 710 its terrible, but this has really impressed me for the money. I dont care for the streaming stuff, my son just wants to game. And for that reason its been fantastic. Running it on an ultrawide monitor with freesync and its buttery smooth. I love the card and my son does too :)
Got it for my budget build upgraded from r9 285 2gb and it’s better than everyone that hasn’t bought one or upgraded to pcie 4 with one.
Got it at $200 usd with $180 worth of free games.
i just installed this card in my machine. i was excited to get it at a fairly descent price. i am not much into buying a more higher end card. so i thought i would try this one. i noticed it only had two ports on it. thats ok. i do not care about installing two monitors anyways. i do like that it does load up pretty quickly. i did however had to go into the software of radeon and change fan settings at first load up. i am not really interested in benchmarks or frame rates. just the fact i can play games or watch videos is my only concern. i do like this graphics card. i hope it will last for a good 3 years till new ones come out that are ten times better. for now it is a good card for the price. i am enjoying it. thanks for the video
I actually got the same sapphire card about 2 days ago, for now I can't complain coming from a r9 380 2gb version from sapphire. My actual system is quite older: i5 4570, 2×4 gb ddr3 1600, asus h81m-e, samsung 850 evo 250 gb ssd and a qtb WD red hdd. Out of the box it was less than average in userbenchmark but a little tweak to cpu clock and memory helped it out. I'm not the super gamer who plays on a ton of different games but still in the games I did test it performed better than expected. On paper it should have been around 60% better performing than my r9 380 but in warzone for example it was double, guess rdna2 really gets the job done.
The system obviously runs pcie gen3 but yet seems pretty fine to me so far.
The price was a bit higher than I wanted but still 248 euros seems better compared to the nvidia counterpart, overall the experience is good with the only drawback being the lack of encoding.
Fun fact: the gpu itself is so tiny that it heats up and cools down in a matter of seconds, under a heavy synthetic load the fan goes from 0 to 100 and I think that's based on the junction temperature sensor, but it needs just a few seconds to be back to 26°C
I wouldn't use userbenchmark, they are known for shady practices so the results you get are not trustworthy. It's ofc only a suggestion.
@@SpaceLion949 yeah, they seem to really dislike amd. And no, I'm not an amd fanboy(seems like anybody who says something in support of amd is called that.)
@@CL4K. No, you are 100% correct. Their benchmarks are biased in favour of intel. When the 5950X came out their benchmark had old Intel CPUs beating it. Hardware Unboxed did a video on it a long while.
It's one of the worst tools out there. Multiple runs don't give you a consistent score within margin of error, nor does it tell you the full system configuration of what makes up their data. You can actually increase your score by decreasing things like your resolution, that can skew results etc.
I'm still using a R9 380X and recently got myself a new i5-12400F system, and it fares well enough. I'd like a new GPU, but the prices are quite insane at this time. I don't think I'll be going for a 6500 XT, but it's nice to hear people's experiences with it, and that it's not just total crap. There are just so many negative reviews of this card, but I think they are exaggerating things. After all, it's brand new and readily available.
@@Vermilicious Not when my OLD RX 580 8gb cost £120 (NEW! lol)l it's not a good card at all.
AMD: "Here's our newest budget GPU!".
Gamers: "Is ti good enough for mining?".
AMD: "No. We nerfed it specifically so that miners wouldn't want to touch it even with a 5 feet pole".
Gamers: "Alright, we don't want it either".
... am I missing something here?
@@s2korpionic Probably an eyebrow.
So your saying that it would run Minecraft at 2 fps?
@@Retro80sMan1 Minecrap should be fine. As for more modern, more demanding games, who knows?
@@krazycharlie it does work for demanding games lmao
Just bought one for 140 pounds, a massive upgrade over my gt640
Edit: had it for a week now. For the price I found this thing brand new, I think this graphics card is extremely good for the price I paid. In my opinion the Rx 6500xt is awesome when you can find it for cheap😎👍
Being cheap does NOT make it awesome ,, it is still rubbish ,, just cheap rubbish
@@tilapiadave3234 yes it's cheap but if you buy it for Very cheap then it's awesome in my opinion
I got a gtx 1070 for 80usd. did i get the better deal 🤔
@@pikkyuukyuun4741 not really GTX 1000 series lack DX 12 Ultimate. and 1070 used way more power and its way more worn out over its lifetime 5year+ on high temp gaming section or even being mining card. not a good future ahead compare to RX 6500XT. new hardware architecture and new driver support does matter more for future gaming and GTX 1000 series will discontinue driver support earlier than RX 6000 for sure.
This video caused me to click subscribe. I seriously like the way you talk, the aspects you cover, and the visual fidelity on gameplay is very good.
Finally a decent review of the 6500 XT. Most other reviewers put it against a standard batch of AAA games, saw it hit limitations, ignored all the other older and indie games that are available to PC gamers, and declared the card to be shit.
It is kinda shit though, a 5500XT can end up much better (even the 4gb model) & this is name-wise its successor...
My friend has a PC she got with one of those in it and has been having a good time. She mostly plays Genshin Impact and some MMO's so it's worked out well for her.
It's a decent card for situations like that and it's new with warranty RUclipsrs have been drama click queens over the entire situation
Nice :)
@@WASD-MVME not really, it's expensive and gets shit stomped by older cards that costed the same price when they were released and outperform it
@@WASD-MVME it's literally only 51 percent better than a 2 GB GPU from almost ten years ago
Rx 570 entered the chat xd
I chose the XFX 6500 xt over the GTX 1650 because I'm using an i5 11400 with PCIE Gen 4. I'm glad I did. Also the GTX 1650 was over 10% more expensive, doesn't make sense...
It's faster so it was a good choice.
lower end cards like this is good for the time but youll soon want to play newer games and wondering if it will perform good with good graphics, thats how i was when i bought a Rx 570 it was good until i started looking at games like Resident Evil 8 or Assassins creed and others, i didnt wanna ruin the experience with the card so i waited til i got a 5600xt had that for like a year or 2 then got a 6600xt and im comfortable with that now with future games
Don't let the bad reviews get you down if you bought this. People criticize it having similar performance to much older RX cards, but neglect to mention it operates at over 100 watts less, meaning it won't get as hot or use as much power, and will last longer. They complain about the lack of h.264 and 265 encoding, but that really only applies if you're recording/streaming, and if you have a good CPU then it's a moot point. It's a gaming card for a 1080p gamer who just wants a PC instead of a Console, it'll still play most games with modest settings. Sure it's a hard ask between 200-300, but a slightly better card is 400-500+, so it's not worth the price hike unless you actually make money streaming.
I got this under retail at mirco center for 215$ after tax I can’t complain it’s a huge upgrade from my rx460 2gb.
Lol that's what I'm trying to upgrade from. Glad to hear it's a great upgrade from that !
@@DJGameboy91 yeah I would recommend it it’s not a bad card for around 200$ especially if you have a card as old as my previous one. I mostly got it to meet the 4gb vram requirement for halo infinite lol.
Thankfully my RX 460 has 4GB vram, so I’m holding off till things improve for hopefully an RX 6600 one day. For now though the big deal breaker is the lack of encoding for Radeon ReLive, I like to record me and my friends playing games together.
I found an open box model for $207 at Microcenter. Considering they were selling RX 560 and 1050Ti for the $199 mark leaves me thinking it's not bad at that price.
@@mohammadashour692 that’s what happened to me I went in to buy a 1050ti, and it was 199 which was the same price as the rx 6500xt and the guy recommended me to buy the 6500xt instead and showed me bench marks of it out preforming it
Imagine a 6gb launch, this thing would be a good budget friendly card.
This thing would also not be in stock if it had 6 gb
Or at least PCI-E x8
miner: "are u sure? "
@Gaming ZONE GAZO if you could find it. with 6gb of ram and 75 watt it would've been nothing but a present for miners
Yeah for miners
Yea I had 2 options: 215 for 6500xt or 399 for 1650.... and 2 weeks later saw the 3050 for 430 the cheapest model in same store and out of stock right after.
For everyone saying to spend double or more that its worth it I disagree. Ive been with gt 1030 for a long time and couldnt afford to spend so much on low/mid end gpus.
Pubg high 60fps is all I need right now
If you're in an area that has a competitive secondary market, the 1650 is about half that price, but yeah, there isn't a whole lot of value in that retail price.
@@dycedargselderbrother5353 second hand here is crazy expensive everyone think their old gpus are made of gold
@@Dobrufusnoretro they are quite literally made of gold :|
@@dycedargselderbrother5353 no one want to sell their gpu, because they have no replacement (at reasonable value) on the market
1650 if you cant find it for cheap since its still better long term cost
In the current climate, your mix of recent games and attainable hardware is a godsend. This video is the right mix of corporate/sponsored (you have to eat!) and budget gamer, IMHO. Keep up the excellent videos, and the grounded, realistic commentary.
Bought one of these earlier this year for my first computer build and with 32G ram, the i5-12600K, an SSD for windows, an SSD for games and a hard drive for music projects.
I haven't encountered and issues yet, computer is the fastest computer I have personally played on.
Elden Ring is the only game I have played and I have had none of the issues other players have complained about, no stuttering, no crashes etc. Just max FPS and everything running smooth. I see no issues with this card for me personally.
I think it works fine. Can't do as many things as my old card, but it lets me play a bunch of games at a reasonable 40-60 fps. I'm currently rocking the powercolor itx varient, upgrading from a sad little sapphire r9 270x.
Do you live in the U S ?
Entry level stuff for those that really want a new GPU right now and can't afford something better. It does the job for most casual players, I reckon. Might be an okay pairing with the new Alder Lake i3s and cheaper parts.
@Al Except you can get a 1060 for the same price. A 6 year old card still performs better, and is still somehow more future proof.
@@jaronmarles941 does it still have warranty? Not everyone conformable buying used, old stuffs, especially if you're outside of the US
@@ulfricstormcloak7142 It doesn't really matter, the 6500XT is so shit, it'll be outdated in about a year.
@@jaronmarles941 to you it doesn't matter duh. To a lot of other people, it matters
I just gifted a 6500 XT to a friend this weekend. He has a Ryzen 1300X system that I built a few years ago for him. He mainly plays World of Warcraft. It had an r9 380 2gb. This was a fantastic upgrade for him. Everything runs so much smoother.
I'm glad you enabled raytracing because i been searching youtube for a video that covers it and your the first one i've seen that's done it
I would love to see a comparison to the 1050TI. I think a lot of people have a 1050TI like me and are thinking about a 6500. It would help us out with a 3.0 system to know if it is worth it or go for a 1650 instead. Hope to see this soon!
nice to see Ebuyer is letting you review their tech!!! i buy my hardware there as well
It's good to see more mention of UK tech retailers in videos - so pleased to see that too. Wish we had something like Micro Center though here - Maplin was closest until they went bust
@@tourmaline07 back in the days when maplin had guud thing hermano. i recall my first shop in the US, it was Best buy> was nice to see so much in the same place. and that was in the lates 2001. then i came to live in the uk. and maplin had the best harrd ware after ebay
hAPPY DAYS :)
I liked to see the extra effort for the 2 testbenches. Great video!
Meanwhile, my RX570 is still kicking ass and recording gameplays with ReLive: 💪😎🤳
I’m sorry but people saying that GTX 1060 or 1070 destroys this card is a fat fucking cap. Comparing to the latest video with the 1070ti and the 6500XT, they are really close in performance with the 1070ti BARELY beats it while using more wattage. Going back to back with this video and the most recent one with the 1070ti, the RX 6500 XT is closer than y’all realize.
Good review of this card. You've shown what it can do rather than spent a lot of time focusing on what it can't do. No, it won't win any awards, but as a solution for a low budget new build ie pci4.0 gaming PC it gives a perfectly acceptable 1080p experience without rolling the dice on a second hand gpu. Much less attractive for other use cases, but definitely not 'the worst gpu launch ever'' as labelled by another high profile review site who consistently seem to ignore budget builders have to know everything they buy will work as there's no second chances budget wise if it doesn't. And yes, it does matter that it's also in stock and available at MSRP.
Lil the "other high profile review site" definitely looks like hardware-unboxed, still they have to keep in mind in their testing that anyone looking for one of these cards isn't on a top tier pc anyways so might be cpu limited even, and whoever (like me) buys one does not play AAA titles or ultra settings in all games, maybe some casual warzone or forza, maybe halo, but nothing like resident evil with all setti go cranked up or other new prohibitive titles. If they kept that in mind maybe reviewers would still give this gpu a pass since it does its job, but they instead compare it to gpus that are on another level and it simply doesn't add up and just makes this gpu look like dog s**t when it's not (yes it's not the best we all know, but it works better, consumes less and will last longer than most second market cards)
Lmao chill out, they're not entirely wrong. This fucking card should've been mobile only but it's just a cashgrab by AMD.
@@crylune cash grab yea maybe but still, wanna talk about the ghost 3050 with a "250$ msrp"? The other gpu is sold goes for 500 here in Europe, while granting 4 more gb of vram and a 20% gpu performance increase over the 6500 xt? Plus the silicon in this ghost card is a 3060 silicon, not even what they had in mind to put in this gpu and all this just to cut amd and get the money lol
The point is:
Rx 6500 xt: usable gpu close to msrp
Rtx 3050: a mess of a gpu that's just here for the money
@@crylune cashgrab yes just like all other companies NVDIA included, its better than 1650 at same price and not everyone needs encoding. Its not like everyone is content creator lmfao
Like the trend with the multiple test systems, I'm sure it's harder but it does show variation. Thanks.
The GPU is designed for LTs so 4GB and limited lanes. AMD put the die in a DT AIB for system builders like Dell and HP ect that use PCIe 4 MBs . They decided to make the card available to DIYers and made rebates to major outlets to have SRP pricing at launch. The second batch supply will be large. So concidering it's design goal it does well plus AMDs coming FSR 2 and driver level upscaling .
does better than my rx 580 8 gig plus 64bit i have mine in my computer with a b560 and i5 11400 it does great much better than i expected.
Could be driver optimisations for RDNA2
Yeah, if you’re on pcie 4 like that, it’ll perform a bit better than a 580 in sheer rasterization (except when vram limited)I still don’t think it’s worth losing two displayouts, 4 gigs of vram, memory and pcie bandwidth, plus encode decode. I guess my point is, I can understand someone upgrading from an igpu or 1030 etc, but it really doesn’t seem worth it over a 580, especially an 8gb version. Was something wrong with the 580? Or are they in different systems or something?
@@videogamefreak221122 Nothing was wrong with the 580 it was 5 years old i wanted something new that cost less than 300.00 USD and this is a good choice it never gets over 49c uses very little power that is something we should all be doing its the first 6000 series card on 6nm it is quiet love this graphics card.
Yesterday I found this card in a store. They wanted 650€ for it which was too much for me just for testing it. A used 1080i was 400€ last year which is a decent price and the RX card is way slower I guess.
For its price, I love that sapphire includes a backplate. gives it that premium look, at a budget price.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, it's just impossible to dislike the content on this channel. Brilliantly informative and and insightful. A down to earth approach that's representative of the perspective of the average gamer with a real world budget. And just straight up good to watch even if you're not interested in the hardware.
I mean thanks to RUclips it's impossible to dislike now anyway... But you get my point.
The lack of HW encoding is a dealbreaker for myself since I use that feature allot for streaming and making clips, the fact my 5 year old RX 580 8gig has more VRAM, features and was cheaper is just shocking, also it performs about the same.
Edit-I'm looking at it in the scenario if my RX580 bites the dust, and I'm using a PCI 3.0 motherboard. Just an awful card all around, but I'm sure in some scenarios where people are happy it at least exists in this current market, really just shows once again how terrible the GPU market currently is. It's a sad time for PC gaming.
My cousin's gpu did go bust on him, at least he was able to pick up a 6600xt as a stop gap
Kinda wild to me that 2 years ago, people reported the 5500 XT 4gb suffering from a pcie 3.0 connection, even with its 8 lanes. Not sure how AMD thought things could go well when cutting back to just 4 lanes.
It's cheaper than GTX 1650 and still outperform it...so it could go well for budget users
@@MultiDivebomber you're right, but I'd suggest a user go for a used 1070 or 980 ti instead if they're looking to drop $250-$300
@@Shadowauratechno many are rather uneasy about getting used cards, because it may have a limited lifespan left. Especially, if they have worked hard to save $250. So, it's a personal choice.
They couldn't do anything aboutthat without inflating the price.
good video, great script, loved the gladiator part in the intro,
Yes bro
Gonna hang on to my trusty 1080 for as long as I can…
Word
@@rainerdietwerner5048 Also very good for NVEnc transcoding. All models after Pascal only have half the no. of NVEnc chips, so converting video with (say) Handbrake will be slower sans clock speed differences. With a 5600X I get about 300fps converting raw AHVCD 1080p to h264 mp4 @ 8Mbit, which is massively faster than using any normal consumer CPU (by that I mean any AM4 or Intel mainstream or conventional HEDT), and it's the same speed with h265 (CPU encoding drops by half for x265).
Btw, if you want to improve efficiency a bit, for those games where the 1080 is faster than necessary, try reducing the power limit to 70%. This will lower the max performance by 9% to about the same as a 1070 Ti, but it cuts max power consumption by an impressive 20%. With this config, including a 24" MSI gaming monitor, I was able to get a total idle draw of just 37W.
A good stand alone review. It is a very poor card though, likely £100 if the second hand market was bereft of scalpers.
Sounds about right. This part won't age well since it's not even suitable as a display adapter. If you want, say, three monitors and/or hardware encoding or decoding for x265 or AV1 you'll need something else. Therefore the card's utility lies in games that fit comfortably within the 4GB framebuffer and don't stream a lot of graphical data. It's a vanishing proposition, especially since game developers are becoming accustomed to SSDs existing in average machines. In the future this might be a good pickup for retro gaming, like the much maligned NVIDIA FX series from about two decades ago is now.
@@dycedargselderbrother5353 Definitely not a good card if you like to play new AAA releases but it's something if you only play the same games over and over as quite a few people do.
@@dycedargselderbrother5353 I feel sorry for the non tec people buying a 6500xt system for their kids. Ungrateful little shits :D
Yeah definitely one to avoid
If it had 2-4gb more vram, it would be a great buy. As it is, only if it's included in a low end system.
Have a great day!
If it had that much id be sold out because of crypto miners
@@menliondoes7387 Not with such a thin bus. Ethereum mining loves bandwidth. The 6500XT's bandwidth is very low.
Its meant to be a 1080p card 4gb is enough for most optimized games. Having more vram is only useful if you want to play at a higher resolution then 1080p. And anyone doing that obviously doesn't know what they are doing
My german friend who im helping to build a PC picked this specific model up for 220 euros. Best deal you're gonna get i told him. A few months back i remember the minimum card he could buy was the awful 1650 for over 300 euros and if he wanted anything decent the RX 6600 for 550 euros. SInce his budget was 1100 including the monitor this was simply no option, so i'm happy.
I bought one of these because it was the only option really for a little over 300 Canadian. I was expecting the worst but was impressed with how it performed in all the games I play. It takes a bit more care than other cards to dial in optimal settings due to the low pcie bandwidth but that kind of makes it a bit more fun oddly enough. Anyway I'm really pleased with this card. Should get me through the next year or so until prices on mid range cards become realistic.
My thoughts... buy an RX 580 4GB instead if you're on PCIe Gen3. If you're on Gen4 get a 6600 instead. Sure, it costs more, but it's in stock... at least in the U.S. And if you're thinking of buying the 6500 XT as an interim until prices on new cards drop back down... well that's not going to happen for a long time. So, just spend the money for the 6600 and have a better experience until they do. Or wait for the ETH merge and and get a cheap used card on ebay.
Isn't it the opposite? Spending more on a placeholder cards would just mean more loss when prices go back to normal. Also 6600 is priced almost twice as much as the 6500xt so it's definitely not worth it here in my region.
@@BortaMaga I'm not really saying to buy the 6600 as a place holder card. It's an excellent card for 1080p. I'm saying, just buy that and enjoy playing at 1080p until you need to upgrade again. If you wanted to buy something at the top end, then yeah... I would call it a decent place holder card and if you were, you weren't going to be happy using the 6500 XT as a placeholder anyways.
@@TheGameBench But the 6500xt is the cheapest mistake you can make with a warranty, and as you can see, you can still game fine.
@@jamesmith5960 I didn't say it wasn't possible to game fine with the 6500 XT. I'm just saying, for the money I'll save a little and go used. It's gaming performance is hit or miss, even with a Gen4 board.
And when was the last time you actually used the warranty on your GPU? These parts generally fail early on, or they don't fail for a long time outside of extenuating circumstances. In over 10 years, I can recall having to use warranty service on two GPU's. Both were fan issue. An easy fix even without a warranty. One I solved without any parts because I didn't want to send the card in over a fan.
I buy used GPU's all the time to put in used systems and sell and I've bought more used GPU's in the last ten years than most people will buy in their lifetime. I've had zero problems buying used. Just buy from a reputable seller and test the card out when you get it, and if it doesn't fail within eBay's return window, it likely won't have a problem in a reasonable amount of time.
I stand by what I said. The 580 4GB is a better option for less money. I feel that anyone with a Gen3 board should avoid it like the plague and anyone with a Gen4 board has better options for less money.
Of course, I can only speak to the U.S. market. That might not be the case everywhere and it might be your only option under $300.
@@TheGameBench I too live in the US and have used my warranty twice on my xfx 390. Once fairly recently.
I have it also with i5 10400f and im happy with it. To be honest i dont need much more for nice gaming experience. Worth of noting is the fact of low power consumption and great temperatures on this sapphire. 2 years ago i had xfx rx590 and it consumed 180w vs this 100w. The bigest limit with this card is imo only 4gb of vram
Doesn't the rx590 perform better than this card? You preferring better power consumption is fine, but not every one wants a downgrade
The power efficiency on this card is great, and I think underappreciated. It's too bad your 10400 doesn't have Gen4 support though.
@@bipbop3121 my rx590 died in 2021. Imo performance is very simmilar. Mafia remastered works a bit better on 6500 xt.
From Denmark.
A card that constantly warns of too little video ram, and many times loses up to 30 to 40% in PCIe 3.0, and lacks a decoder.
Many people who buy it have no idea that all of a sudden they can no longer record games when they play, it will not work.
And so only 4 Gb ram at this time makes no sense at this price.
The new games will constantly have problems with.
To me, it's one of the biggest FLOP AMD has ever made, just to sell something.
Wrong. Card has all the sense for those into casual budget gaming. Comparing prices when Trump was president with Biden rule and inflation at 50-60% yearly is what really has no sense. This card is a replacement for GT 1030 , RX 460 and similar. It serves its purpose - 1080p medium gaming in newest AAA titles.
I really love your "Welcome everybody and welcome to another video..."...Top tier❤️✨
It’s a laptop GPU stuck on a desktop board if I’m not mistaken hence the x4 pcie bandwidth. Not sure if it was an attempted cash grab by AMD or a genuine botched design / attempt at a cheap GPU. Either way I think it’s hurt consumer confidence in them badly.
I also think FSR is effectively allowing them to get away with what would otherwise be a grossly underperforming product. People praise upscaling methods now, especially DLSS, but in the end it's given the designers a chance to slow down the pace of tech improvement, especially rasterisation performance.
Reviewers absolutely ruined this card for no reason, and you can be sure Amd won't release another low end card like this again
@@tuckerhiggins4336 I feel they deserved the criticism. It's a laptop GPU clocked to hell and back with a big cooler slapped on top missing features that were supposed to be done by the iGPU part of the APU.
It's pretty unacceptable at its aimed price point. Especially since most people at the lower end won't have PCIE 4.0.
In an MSRP world the 6500xt would never be £179. Its closer to a £130 card for me.
Manufacturers themselves are becoming the scalpers.
@@anurbanpenguin8890 That's a far point but considering the current market, I can see how it made sense for them to release such a weak product. I mean, this benefits consumers in a way, IMO, having more cards in the market means better pricing in general
Given the low GRAM and cut down features, I think this was AMD's attempt to make a card that was nigh unusable for mining in order for gamers to actually have an affordable card, while relying on system RAM to make up the rest of the necessary workload, especially with the upcoming DDR5 RAM. At that point though, they might as well just put more money into APU development.
In the US, the RX 6500 XT is around $260, and the RX 6600 is around $460. If you MUST buy a GPU in this market, that extra $200 is well worth it, as you actually get a good product with the RX 6600. If you can't afford to go up that much in price, you're far better off trying to snag a used GTX 1650 Super for around the same price as an RX 6500 XT (which is definitely possible, at least in the US).
There are a lot more people who can afford $300 than there are who can afford $500. Of all the $300 GPUs the 6500XT is the clear choice if someone can't afford to gamble on a used GPU off ebay.
@@CharlesVanNoland eBay has refund and buyer protection policies if you get scammed with a dead GPU. And no, I don't buy the "used for mining" argument for a card like the 1650 Super.
@@DrearierSpider1 Not worth the hassle for a very slight performance boost.
I recently got this card since my old one bit the dust and had to get a graphics adapter for photoshop and stuff, my entire steam library runs at 100 fps ultra settings so for 180 euro i'm quite happy.
Wondering if this would make much difference to my old gaming system from 2012, featuring fx8350@4.6ghz, HD7970, 16gb 1866mhz RAM, Crosshair V Formula-Z, still Windows 7.
Or a system with fx6300 (no OC), R9-270X, 24gb 1600mhz RAM, running Windows 10. The latter was built for less demanding work when built in 2015, but with Win 10 it gets the odd new game.
Or wait and save for late 2023, then biting the bullet for a modern system, with much better CPU & GPU.
I'd say it depends on what you have in your system to whether or not the rx 6500. If you have a gtx 750 ti or lower I say yes the rx 6500 is definitely worth the upgrade if you have a rx 580 or gtx 1060 or higher I'd want for prices to normalize and buy something better then the rx 6500.
Its not bad gpu its just meant for budget gamers
I mean if you have a rx580 its somewhat of a horizontal migration. Some extra features but not worth the money at that point. It would be more suitable for cards below that.
Reviewers are used to using 3090...they don't see things from tglhe perspective of APU users who have been playing at 720p low all the time.
I replaced my son’s gtx950 with this gpu and on his 900p monitor it runs all his games flawlessly. It’s painful to see prices the way they are….. I bought my rx570 new for $119 a couple years ago. But here we are. Its nice to see something in stock besides a $270 1050ti for entry level
this IS a bad card - worse than the 580s and 1060s of half a decade ago and lacking basic features like hardware video encoding. think of how many of these entry-level gamers will buy a 6500XT and be confused when it runs terribly on their gen 3 motherboard (not that performance on gen 4 is acceptable either)
@@ElderlyAnteater It's a new entry-level GPU when we've been waiting for them for 18 months. For someone who is waiting for GPU to finish a build, it's a godsend. I don't see it as a drop-in replacement for an RX 580 or a GTX 1060. The lack of video encoding only matters to people who need and frankly, not everybody needs it. You can view multimedia fine with this card. I bought one for the LULZ and it's actually pretty decent. I have RX 6600 and 6600XT, I also have a few RTX 3060s and for such a cheap card, it's actually good.
I would recommend for anybody that needs a placeholder card for a new build if someone doesn't want to buy used. I for one would never buy a used RX 580 or RX 570 from a miner. For 90% of the people out there, the lack of transcoding means nothing.
Would be interesting to see how this would work with an AMD system setup as AMD often used to put little "extras" into their spider setups (AMD gfx and CPU) that gave the setup a tiny bit of a performance increase over an AMD board and nVidia gfx combo. Its weird too, I've noticed your vids seem to coincide with new Catalyst downloads lol
9:05, "I cant see anything, but the reflections are great"
Time to stay with my 970 for the next 4 years.....
If this card had an 8GB variant, and performed better on PCIe 3.0 systems, then it would definitely be a good budget option
It would cost double than.
@@aleksazunjic9672 "no" it will cost slightly less than an RTX 3050 stock no OCs no anything so it will be about 20-30$ more expensive than its current price assuming you can get this at 200$
@@edwardtan1354 Currently , price of VRAM is 75% cost of total manufacturing cost of graphics card . Therefore, if you double the VRAM you could expect price of the card to go nearly double also.
@@aleksazunjic9672 I dunno since the 3050 is 250 USD stock not the custom bios shite and thats 8GB
@@edwardtan1354 If you find it for $250 you buy it :D Actually, buy another one for me :D Back in real life 3050 starts from $500 and prices go up.
Any chance that you could pair this graphic card with newer gen Celeron & Pentium + Athlon 3000G? It would be interesting to see their low-spec gaming performances.
Seconded
0:42 Its an insane world we live in when the next tier up in GPU's is DOUBLE the price!!
I paired a 6500xt with a athlon 3000g. The rest of the parts were older used parts I had that infact do have pcie gen 4 slots as it is a b450 but the athlon 3000g can't use both the m.2 and drops pcie4 slots down to pcie3 speeds as it does not support pcie4. The build had no graphics card for a while. So this was more or less a upgrade to the vega 3 graphics. I got it for $199.99. Now I did learn the hardway that m.2 doesn't work with this system, so I had to get a pci m.2card and it is so ghetto the heatsink is held on with rubber bands. This added around $70 for the build. So this build in total costed me around $320 if I were to include all the used parts when I bought them new it would be around $520. But I had these spare parts were so cheap on the used market just to ship something like the case it would have costed me more than I spent for most of the buyers as locals are not that interested in computer hardware. But if I were to buy everything used from another person. It would be $400 or so.
It is a wonderful card for what it is, I don't think it should be much cheaper like others are stating. The hardware encoding isn't the end of the world can still record with other software and can still stream.
Yeah, it's a decent card that doesn't really deserve the amount of trashing it's getting. Some of the more famous tech youtubers are just out of touch with reality.
@@flushfire Most of them deliberately knew what they were doing. To the point of faking their results, lying about not being able to record footage, and comparing it to cards that literally cost double the price or comparing it to the used market that is crashing.They just want to lose their free nvidia graphics cards because after the hardware unbox incident they all seemed to flipflop on AMD as a whole. But then again most of them lack the basics of IT and soly depend on applications to test without taking into thought how these applications test and what goes into the scoring process and what exactly is it testing for. Bench marks can be useful but they can also be skewed based off the developers who made them.
They also don't take into account that software developers can be bought out, and in some cases like blender it is obvious to the point where they are heavily monitoring and censoring their forums on the minuet from posts asking why they support nvidia better than AMD, which commonly when they don't censor it out it is usually blaming AMD's "DRIVERS" despite the openCL issues were entirely on their implementation in cycles, and their refusal to upgrade it to a less buggy version that happened on Nvidia cards as well.
Ps: I redid this because I felt my original comment went down too many rabbit holes.
Coming from a GTX 970 so this is just a sidegrade..
I'm really hoping the rumors about the new Intel Arc gpu's being shit(that or the drivers suck)are not true.
We really need that 3rd player to enter the market , badly , because that price is waaaay to high for this kind of performance..
When Zen4 releases i'll be building a system anyway , but i'd like GPU pricing to a bit more, ehm , humane....
A used GTX 1080 would be a better move. Twice the VRAM, much faster, excellent NVEnc, no PCIe issues. I got one for 255 UKP recently (fixed price from a server OEM). GTX 970 is still a great card though.
Even though I hoped for a card that could possibly replace my RX580, I'd say it is still a useful GPU for people that got themselves a new PC with a basic output card or with just an APU.
I would stick with your RX 580 as is was a high end card at it's release, this is a low end card and is not really comparable. You cannot compare by price as when the RX 580 was released there was no pandemic, no major supply and logistic issues, GPU mining at it's highest point in 2017/2018 was insignificant compared to 2021/2022.
i'm here with a gt630 here and i would just buy a used 8gb gpu in the range of 200 bucks personnaly but yeah if it's the only choice for someone's first PC why not?
@@smifffies RX 580 was not high end. It was $229 new. and was a GTX 1060 competitor. High end was 1080 or 1080ti back in the day
@@JaimeIsJaime RX 580 was AMD high end, in that generation there was nothing higher in the AMD line up. I was not comparing it to Nvidia, I was comparing AMD generation to generation.
@@smifffies That doesn't make the RX580 high end. AMD already had GPUs like the R9 Fury lineup that were more powerful (and more expensive) than the RX 580.
1:05 The way he's holding that card I keep thinking he's about to tactical reload it.
I bought one for my OLD gaming pc because the rx580 fried... It actually does fine! Im not going to say its amazing but for $200 it keep that alive and gaming on high setting with 1080p
I would be very curious to see how this compares with the AMD's upcoming 680M. I am finding I don't really mind gaming at lower resolutions like 720p. I really wish this GPU had more video out ports and AMD mini PCs had thunderbolt because this would be so much fun to tinker with as an eGPU or in an ultra small itx build.
I think the 680m is aiming at gtx 1050 levels of performance at minimum. So you should be good for 1080p 30fps in modern games (some will need FSR) and 1080p 60fps in older titles.
This will be good for gaming laptops with large batteries as gaming on battery will be quite good. Even on gaming laptops with smaller batteries it'll still be good for on the go gaming.
Are you able to test something with it "for science"? PCIe 3.0 v 4.0 has been tested with it being only a x4 card, but how about something older? I wonder how it'd hold up with something that's only PCIe 1.0 such as a Core 2 Quad, or PCIe 2.0 like maybe a Sandy Bridge CPU?
i actually do have one in a pcie gen 2 system that i put together from stuff i had laying around and its an interesting beast, so long as you twiddle the settings so that it stays under 4gb memory usage it performs perfectly. but the moment it goes over that the performance tanks hard. In practice I'd say its no worse an experience than a gen 3 system though as in that case while the performance drop wouldn't be quite as bad, you'd probably still want to tweak settings to avoid it
and maybe haswell as well and compared with x16 rx 580 4GB or gtx1660, be interesting if you hit a CPU bottleneck or PCIe limit first, but that's a lot of work.
all that matters this card is affordable and available compare to others on tight budget. no matter some famous tech reviewer crapping on this card if it actually delivers what i needed with what money i had.
I saw an R9 Fury went for £141 on ebay yesterday. 6 months ago these were over £200, I've got one in my system. These are 4GB but with higher performance than RX 580. They pop up on ebay every week and I'd say were the best performance for less than £200 available. However VEGA 56 are selling for £420 when they were £600 6 months ago. When the VEGA gets to £300 it will be well worth getting.
R9 Fury lost driver support, though. Not many people are comfortable installing the Nimez driver. People are lazy and or don't know what they are doing. lol
Nice balanced and sensible review, getting fed up with idiot reviewers using i9 12900's and ultra settings with HD textures with this card, I am looking at you HUB & GN! Keep on with your realistic and entertaining output. Thumbs Up!
totally true hahaha!!
Even LTT were praising the 6500XT when reviewing the 3050, in MSRP 3050 was the winner but in the real world 6500XT.
See the choice of PCIe 4 is an odd one. It fundamentally limits what was intended to be a “lower end card for lower end gamers” from being as accessible to lower end gamers.
The issue is the x4 link width, pcie 4 is on every current gen card now.
@@SolarianStrike yea sorry that’s what I meant
I mean I upgraded from a gt 730 to the Rx 6500 XT and personally I feel like it was worth the upgrade
I was waiting for this. I have brought this last January.
Why is it that AMD GPUs almost never get short single fan versions. Even with the very efficient 6600/XT there is only ONE model from ASRock... :/
They’re already a rather niche product, most people just want dual or triple fan cards. Then, when you consider how little marketshare Radeon gpus have overall, it probably just isn’t worth it from a sales standpoint. I know there’s a powercolor single fan 6500 xt
That creates perception that the product is cheaply made and sucks, which AMD doesn't want with their already relatively low market share in GPUs
i miss single pci slot cards, those were super practical. A single slot 1070 exists believe it or not.
Well, they finally released single fan card, 6400.
It really doesn't support hardware encoding? Man, that's huge. I never expected a card with no hardware encoding to be on the market today, this decision limits it so much!
like how? if your purpose is gaming and watching stuff does encoding even matter
what a gentleman he takes out all hes gpus
FYI.... ebuyer is a UK ONLY store... they ship only to Britain, Wales, Scotland, Ireland.... yeah.
I did something rather stupid yesterday: I set everything to Ultra quality on CP 2077, even Ray-Tracing, and then set the FSR to Ultra Performance. I managed to get 33 fps average on 900p. Don't know why I did it, but I did it anyway. My GPU is a 1660 Super.
The combination of no hw video encoder, lack of PCI-E lanes and 4gb memory only are making this card a complete no-go (and failure) in my view. I'm a non gamer, using my PC for productivity and software development. Looking around for a candidate to replace my Rx 460. But I may just upgrade to the Ryzen 7000 as I expect the iGPU be more powerful than my current GPU.
if you have an rx 460 i feel like a ryzen 7000 apu would crush your gpu with good ram. maybe a 50% improvement. you should look into the steam deck as its power would be comparable to that of a ryzen 7000 apu, but keep in mind ryzen 7000 is zen 4 and the steamdeck uses zen 2
6500xt will be faster than any 7000 series apu, that's already been confirmed.
@@jamesmith5960 yeah but hes not looking for only games, he should go with something like a ryzen 7 7000 apu or ryzen 5 7000 apu for what he wants. the 6500xt doesn't meet his needs because it is pretty much just a gaming card. the gaming performance from the apu is more of an extra. the man is using a rx 460, i had a 560 that thing was awful and the 460 is worse than that,
@@jamesmith5960 the 6500 has no video encoder, lacks bus bandwidth on a gen 3 PCI-E system and is ridiculously overpriced for what it is. So it makes more sense to me to wait, upgrade Mobo, CPU and RAM , use the iGPU together with my old rx460 as 2nd GPU. If GPU prices stay like they are, then the platform upgrade wouldn't cost more than a midrange GPU in my country.
Brilliant video thanks for the pcie 3.0 and 4.0 pcie comparison definitely need to get a hold of a 4.0 pcie motherboard
BUY INTEL. MOST IF NOT ALL AMD BOARDS ARE 4.0 CAPABLE BUT ARTIFICIALLY LOCKED BY AMD
The raytraced footage of Cyberpunk 2077 makes me look forward to people running the game with rt on the Steam Deck.😎
I would recommend this card if it wasn't so expensive, Especially since you can find a 1650 or a used 1070 on some places for just as much and better performance.
the 1650 is weaker than this card, the 1070 in the other hand a much better choice
I'd actually just recommend an APU, as you'd at least get hardware accelerated encoding/decoding. With the 6500 xt, you get meh performance for a bad price, and thats basically it
@@canaconn2388 actually, this card performs a lot better than an APU, it's a bad card, but if you mostly play Warzone or similar games, you'll benefit from this GPU. On the other hand, for people playing easy to run titles such as LoL, Dota 2, Valorant... then an APU is the way to go for sure
@@sergioramos1287 I know its weaker, I should of worded it better, but it can be had at a much reasonable price, but too bad DLSS isn't an option for the 1650 though.
If you have PCI-E 4.0, maybe then this is a good card for the money. With 3.0... don't bother, find a used GPU or hold on.
Damn that 6-pin power connection will obstruct the Radeon trademark.
I like that ur not so annoying like the other RUclipsrs shitting on this gpu so much .
This is quite a sad waste of sand.
Better off playing on integrated
Doing the same
No you're not lmao
either this is a mega cope or a woefully ignorant comment
@@notcraig255 your comment is peak copium
@@johnygiant play on integrated then
Is is not an upgrade card, it is a new gpu for cheaper new systems. Just that, and for that it is a good choice. Some compare it with older and better second hand cards, but if you want cheap and warranty this is a good option. Not all people do not have the money to gamble on the second hand market!
cheap in stock and brand new ill take it i dont need ultra settings and 100 fps to enjoy gaming.
gpu prices are about to skyrocked with whats going on in the world id upgrade now before prices gets even higer.
Bought this at 215€. Couldn't be happier. Pairing the GPU with a ryzen 3600, so I'm able to get the most out of the card tho!
This card is simply a mirror of current reality. We have a rampant inflation in USD and Euro zone (50-60%) , shortage of everything, loss of liberty ... As such, lot of people have it worse than year or two before . Therefore we need to scale back our expectations. This GPU is , like it or not, simply a replacement for earlier budget cards like gt 1030 or rx 460 (560) . It does much better than they and the price is similar when you count in the inflation. It is not meant for dedicated gaming, it is a card for casual gamers satisfied with 1080p Med in recent games and it delivers that.
That 12300 or the 12100 is actually close to the best real world scenario this card will see, being a brand new budget PCIe 4.0 configuration. Card is bad and is already showing signs of being obsolete but will work just fine for older games while giving at least 1080p30FPS on current gen. Kind of how the 1050ti was but without being a 75w card and also way more expensive. I wouldn't buy it, but i would not have bought a 1050ti at any point in it's lifetime either so meh.
Just picked up one of these on sale for £149 with a free copy of The Last Of Us Part One :)
I previously had an RX 6400 with which I had a lot of fun optimising games, before upgrading a few months back to a secondhand Nvidia 3060 Ti Founders Edition that I impulsively bought on Ebay for £350.
The FE is an awesome card, but its power draw is costly with the price of electricity here in the UK, and to be honest where's the fun in being able to play everything at full whack without issues?
My monitor is only 60Hz and so the FE is a bit overkill anyway... I'll probably whack it back on Ebay if I find the 6500 XT to be adequate for my needs.
Smart move. Enjoy !
G'day Random,
🤔Sapphire could have called this the RX6500XT-CP2077 they pre-empted the PCIe3 Frametime Graph Perfectly on the Backplate 😏,
I must say with all the bad reviews due to price to performance & PCIe3 Throttling it does seem a good buy for a 'Low Budget Totally New Build' with an i3-12100F,
I hope you do a video of Pentium G7400 pricing & Gaming Performance compared to the i3-12100F with this as the GPU, so we can see what is the Lowest Budget Alder Lake Build we can get to competently game with
Please make more videos on this card ......I am thinking to buy this card.... it's a nice card overall for a casual card...
I Knew that it wasn't all Doom and Gloom about the 6500XT. There's still a GPU here, even if it doesn't do hundreds of FPS, or suck down the annual output of Sellafield Power Station. And should my backup system's Venerable 750ti even give out, it looks like I've found the perfect replacement.
Yeah, the reason it got shit on was because it's a RX580 (re-release of the RX480) but worse in some cases and for basically the same price. But it's cheap so and the market is screwed so...
I bought a 6700XT for £600 last summer that I thought was daylight robbery. Kind of glad I did now...