@@dallesamllhals9161 Cool, you're old i guess. It's just a little odd that you have a computer that's 25 years old at this point, unless you planned on running retro games without having to do emulation that thing is practically e-waste. Also just saying c64 and amiga doesn't exactly give you any cred because those were both incredibly popular systems that most people that are interested in computers know about. That's like bragging you know about the atari 2600.
Have you tried doing it with the pin covered in order to make the CPU go from 2.4GHz to 3GHz ? I don't think it would change much, but still, if you weren't already doing it, I think you might get slightly higher results
@@somehow_not_helpfulATcrap thats true but you can look up schematic draw up your own voltage mod or etc etc counter the instability through hardware mods it is unruly but useful especially if you want to resell old pc with a bit more tolerable user experience. and the incompatibility issue just get good internet and use game streaming better than dealing with all the sse bullshit
people dont post the mods anymore cause its intellectual property blah blah but you can look up documents all you feel like and draw up your own mods based on diagrams and etc etc i can raise and lower voltage of the intel core 2 quads on any board even the hybrid ddr3 models. im on core 2 quad q6600 configured to 2.66 ghz through bios modification of the FSB speed and i am working on getting it stable past 3.0 ghz
It's more 12 years old 😉 I have used a Core2quad with DDR2 until 6 months ago. Its motherboard (P5Q-E) was from 2009. I had maxed out the RAM with 4x2GB. USB was still USB2 on the board, so I had to bring USB 3.0 with an addon card. Still, it has served us well for 12 years as the primary family PC (the last years with a modded xenon CPU) !
Well, I am surprised with this result. It's amazing that you managed to get some of these games working at all. Personally, I'd just use the system as it was meant to be, leaving the 8GB DDR2 installed, and just using it for more retro games and operating systems.
I've got an old Dell Vostro (business version of the PC you featured) that I upgraded over the years. I used it for gaming as late as 2016 thanks to a Q9550, 8 GB of RAM, and a GTX 560 SC. That little PC kept me gaming for almost a decade, so I'd say the platform actually aged surprisingly well.
@@dthatcher7 For my old Vostro, I actually bought that new and upgraded over the years (my parents were nervous about used computers back then, and I was in early high school so I went with whatever they'd let me get). However, last year, I decided to do the whole "get an eBay Optiplex and throw in a graphics card" for my brother, so he and I could game together without dropping $1000 on a PC for him that he'll only use once a week when gaming with me. The "upgrade an office PC" strategy is GREAT for low budget gaming.
what i always found odd is how hyped the C2Q 6600 is, when there is a cheaper, faster and more modern variant for the same socket called the C2Q 8400 it still overclocks just as good too, so really no reason to get a 6600 instead of the 8400 not to mention the 8400 has newer SSE instructions, making more stuff work on it
@@TrantaLocked yea? people reccomended the Q6600 in 2013 still for budget gaming the Q8400 was long out and *still* the cheaper option at that point, as noone was hyping it up
@@Space_Reptile I only hear people mention the Q6600 in terms of it being popular in the day which is why it gets mentioned so much. Never would I see someone recommend buying anything other than a Q8000 or Q9000 series after 2010. I see these as separate conversations.
I've always been fond of the C2Q 6600 because the school I went to bought a bunch of second-hand office PCs that had the 6600 in them. Nostalgic CPU for me.
My ryzen processor died when I am waiting for my replacement processor to arrive I paired a gtx 960 with a q6600 gta 5 occasional stutter but its playable with lower settings and to my surprise the dx11 perform less stutter than the other dx version the fps is about 50 with 1080p low I found an 8gb ddr3 paired with g41 and locked 50 hz and disabled some settings in documents I managed to play and got a decent experience those days , After ryzen arrives it's a new experience .
I still think no one should be running a core 2 quad in this day and age for gaming purposes, but I am interested to see your core 2 quad video to see how it fairs in 2022. A lot of channels have labeled it as a dead cpu for gaming wise.
The only CPU or GPU that is "dead" is the one that can't reasonably run the games you want to play. So "dead" is a relative term depending on what games interests you. My gaming interests span from Wolfenstein 3D for DOS and the original Tomb Raider for DOS, Duke Nukem Atomic for DOS to The Talos Principle, Path of Exile, Trine 1 to 4 series, The Room 1 to 4 series, Destiny 2, The Witcher, real Myst Masterpiece Edition, Hitman everything, etc. So my CPUs range from Pentium III @1GHz on Socket 370 Soyo motherboard paired with Nvidia TNT2 M64 AGP4X to AMD Sempron 3100+ @1.8GHz Socket 754 on MSI-7142 motherboard paired with Chaintech GeForce FX-5200 AGP 8X card to Intel Core 2 Quad Q9660 @3.0GHz socket 775 on Gigabyte motherboard paired with MSI Nvidia GT-640 Afterburner in PCIe 2.0 slot. To AMD Ryzen 3 1200 @3.1GHz on Gigabyte B450 motherboard paired with Sapphire Pulse AMD Radeon RX-570 4GB GDDR5 RAM. If the game interests me, I play it on whatever hardware provides best compatibility! Happy Gaming to you all.😊
If I had an RTX card, I'd want to put it in my top-tier X58 platform, just for lulz. That triple-channel chipset configuration was no joke. My Rampage III Formula board had a SATA 3 controller as well, so running an SSD vastly benefited performance over SATA 2. It's an i7 990X-powered system with 24GB DDR3 (Mushkin RedLine 2133MHz kit) that I ran for ten solid years before upgrading to a(n) Z390/i7 9700K setup and 128GB DDR4 (G.Skill Trident Z Neo 3200MHz kit). I feel like X58 was the bare minimum for decent semi-modern gaming; I had a Q6600 and a Phenom II 1100T system before my brief stint in 990FX and ultimate transition to X58. I was so sad when they could no longer seem to keep up (or keep cool trying). I now have two Z390 systems and one X58. All GTX-powered: ROG Poseidon 1080Ti ($550), ROG Poseidon 980Ti ($350), EVGA 980Ti SC2 ($150). People used to joke about how I never sold my old graphics cards and had so many lying around; now that the GPU market is what it is, I'm finally having a laugh. I'm also building a Ryzen 7 5800x system on a budget right now, and the 980Ti SC2 will be going in that; the X58 will be getting its original Strix R9 380-OC back, now that the die-temps are no longer giving off "Chernobyl fuel-rod surface-temp." readings after receiving a full teardown and service. This was fun to watch, tho. I kinda wanted to do an old Core 2 build for nostalgia' sake and this totally reminded me why that was a bad idea. Thanks for posting!
@@pengu6335 "I paid for 4 slots, I'm using all of 4 slots, and damn the expense!" It was actually a really good deal at the time. I've never owned anything over 32GB prior. I wanted 64GB (4x16GB) originally, but I saw the discount sticker on the 128GB (4x32GB) kit and knew it was then or never. Came in really handy when I didn't have any spare modules for the portable ITX when I built it; split it 64GB and 64GB until I got 16GB DDR4 4000 (Balistix Max RGB) for $80 at Micro Center around the holidays. You see it as overkill; Chrome sees it as "more food". lol
I also got Cyberpunk working on a Q8400 with a patch... Runs at 5-15fps depending on location lol 😂but in more sensible games the Core 2 Quads actually do very well, you can play a lot of older and simpler games on it at a stable 60+fps. They're still great for web browsing, word processing, 1440p youtube is also possible (4k struggles). Still capable and cheap.
This takes me back to being a teenager and the family computer was terrible, it had the worst gfx card they could get away with putting in and telling my dad it was a gaming pc, i then took on a few jobs and saved every penny i could and eventually got a midrange for the time gfx card, then i learned that the cpu was weak... and the ram was slow.... and the list went on ahhh memories lol, im so pleased time pc went out of business
Graphics cards have always been a source of lies and deception, especially when you don't know and better, and are not looking to spend a fortune. I remember getting fleeced on a laptop I bought... Saved up some extra money to get one with a 3d graphics card so I could at least play some light 3d games if I wanted to (although I was never much of a gamer). I plunked down $1500 of my hard earned money on a laptop with "3d graphics" only to find out it was not 3d, just some bullshit "neomagic" (the maker of the graphics chip) made up. So I was stuck with a standard graphics card again (only worse because it shared system ram).
@@volvo09 I remember getting an HP or Gateway laptop with the Nvidia 7150M GPU....emphasis on "M". Ugh. Never again. I swore off laptops for quite a while after that.
When I upgraded my old AMD FX-4100 computer with an NVIDIA GTX 1050 Ti, I quickly realized that the CPU was the bottleneck. Ooh boy, that was fun. But I was able to play Doom 2016 on medium or high settings in 1080p with playable framerate back in the day, so I can't complain. I bet the 1050 Ti can still be useful as I wait out the GPU apocalypse with a better CPU, mobo, SSD, and RAM.
Phenom II 1100t@4GHz and GTX 970 here :-P "People often underestimate how much having a slower cpu can negatively impact gaming performance.👍" And YOU know that 'cause you tried it? Hmmm...
@@paub5100 If I had a better board and cooler for it, I would have tried to OC it. But honestly, I'm just glad my buddy gave me the processor and some entry level Gigabyte mATX thing lol. It served its purpose well. Time to buy a proper setup now.
I expected this to be an insane bottleneck. I did not expect the games to run as well as they did, not to say that they performed well, but the fact that you were able to run RDR2 for example is impressive. Still, in terms of practical purposes this should never be done unless the whole system is upgraded.
When I ran Red Dead on my Acer Nitro 5 (Core i5, GTX 1050, 8GB RAM) it lagged so hard I had to hold the power button and shut it off because I couldn't open task manager.
@@flying_Night_slasher I have a modern $4000 gaming laptop and I still have to hold down my power button when occasionally, GTA V decides to randomly crash, for whatever reason, crashing so hard that it brings Windows down with it.
Why? I plan to keep my ryzen 1800x and put a rtx 5090 ti with it. Despite people saying bottleneck, i would play at 4k60 ultra and VR 8k60 the cpu should be fine. Currently even in msfs2020 my cpu (6.5 years old) is not use more than 20-30% at 1440p, and i get 45/59 fps at high end at 1440p with my 6.5 years old gtx 1080ti.
This is something I would make an attempt at if i had the regular sized version of my current machine instead of the small formfactor variant. (It's got an i5 in it but uuuh... I dunno what gen beyond 'OLD.) and 8 gigs of ram (max of 16.) For pretty much the same reasons to: 'It's dumb.... so le'ts see if we can make it EVEN DUMBER.'
Q6600 is a Beast... Cmon just think about it... The thought of using a 15 year old CPU to even just boot the latest windows let alone gaming is crazy. Like back when it came out if you tried to run an operating system let alone gaming on a then 15 year old cpu would sound like witchcraft lol
Your biggest limitations here won't be the age of the processor, but rather the PCIe generation. I imagine it's gen 2, so the cpu is probably working itself to death trying to feed the gpu through that slot. A faster cpu might help, but I reckon the pcie slot bandwidth is the problem here. Re: newer games on older cpus; it's worth noting that some older cpus simply don't have the instruction sets used by some newer software. It'll either work, or it'll be broken.
No, it's the CPU. The CPU doesn't work harder if the PCIe bus is bandwidth limited. That's not how it works. It sends the SAME commands through the PCIe bus and the bus is either too slow or it's not. It's pretty much certain the CPU is the bottleneck.
@@photonboy999 Not really. If the bandwidth is smaller, the cpu has to queue up the data while it waits for it to be pushed through the pcie bus. There isn't an infinite amount of cache available, so the cpu will be constantly shifting they data around between caches and memory until its ready to go. The cpu is definitely a weak point, but not as weak as it seems, given the extra overhead its incurring managing the pcie bus.
FH4/5 requires SSE4.1 support, so you need a Q9650 CPU, otherwise Q6600 won't work. If you want to have a cheaper CPU with SSE4.1 support, and you can get a Q8300.
@@EvilTurkeySlices It worked well with my X5450 (modded BIOS, equal performance as Q9650) just anything Q9xxx series, E/X54xx series that allows to play it modern games with SSE4.1 support. (If you ask me, "what about dual-cores?" It's painful enough to suffer or game wouldn't boot or in-game)
@@Jenci dual cores are great for gaming around the time the systems came out. A windows XP or Vista build will perform way faster with a high even core 2 duo over a quad.
Can’t wait my grandpa gave me the same pc and I want to make a sleeper build in his honor,He owned a antique business as well as a fisherman,sadly passed away 2020 ,Before he passed he gave me a computer tool kit,I went to tech school and never went through with it ,And gave me the story of the tools 2 days before he passed away this is inspiring.Thank you
This was really well done! It's nice to see someone who has some knowledge of older and newer hardware. A lot of youtubers kind of drop the ball and can't identify anything more than 10 years old. Can you post the model of that PC's motherboard? Most of those Vista-era Dell Inspiron systems (like the 530) I have come across could support any Core 2 CPU with two cores, but quad cores were off limits. If that thing can support Core 2 Quads it must have the G33M03 motherboard (I had to Google this as It was long forgotten information for me), so I'd be curious as to how it'd run with a newer CPU or with a pad-modded Socket 771 Xeon. The Q6600's anemic 2.4Ghz clock speed and 1066Mhz BUS are pretty limiting compared to the higher clock, BUS and cache on a Q9550, Q9650, Xeon X3370, Xeon E5450 etc.
I can't find anything about this game at all!!! It looked to me like metropolis Street racer on the dreamcast? Do you have any information on this game?
This reminds of the old days of graphics accelerators when some people realized that upgrading from a Voodoo 1 to a Voodoo 2 wouldn't be a huge boost in performance, they had to upgrade the rest of the system to get the best of it. Very good video btw, this is something no one else would ever test.
There is still more performance to be had on this thing by either BSEL tape modding the Q6600 to run with 1333Mhz FSB, or upgrading to a Q9650, as from what i've read the Inspiron 530 supports 1333Mhz FSB. From my experience with an OptiPlex 755 with Xeon X3363 (~Q9550) and 1050 Ti, it pairs much more evenly than what's demostrated here!
That PC was actually my first one lol,later on I paid for a GTX 950 SC and it was good enough Later I bouth a dell optiplex with an i5 3470 and then bought a GTX 1660 TI and I worked for a full year to build my own pc and now I have a good PC Ryzen 5 3600 GTX 1660 TI 16 GB of DDR4 3200 2 TB of storage between an SSD and a M.2 NVme
Windows 7? I have an Asus M5A97 R2.0 with an AMD FX-6300, 16gb of G.Skill DDR3, Running Windows 7 SP3Ult, And an Underclocked Zotac nVidia GeForce 550Ti AMP! Edition with 1 GB GDDR5. Do you think an RTX 3050 would be a suitable upgrade for now?
Forza Horizons 4 worked perfect at around 25fps at 720p with all settings on low on my little Dell Studio 540 (Q8200 2.3Ghz, 8gb RAM, AMD R5 240/HD 8570).Haven't tried 5 yet though.
I install RX 550 on my LGA 1155 motherboard but it's not showing display after it so I update Bios to the latest version and it's works, So the question here if I upgrade to RTX can it shows display or no because there is no more BIOS to update the latest version of it is 2013 V 2.7
You can hack that OEM q66000 by shorting two pins with a small piece of tape and bump it up to 3ghtz stable, which would buy you about an extra 5fps. Did the performance hack to my moms old HP and been running stable for years on the factory cooler. There is tons of videos on here of how to do it. But, in some of the titles you demo, 5fps would be, the difference between playable and unplayable.
C2Q Q6600 was a great chip back in the day. I've just stuck the same rtx 3050 into my son's rig... he's running my old i5 4690k in a z97 board.... it upgraded a 1050ti it's definitely better but not night and day. Even in that rig I'm noticing the CPU is a bit of a bottleneck now but it does run well if you turn down the settings a bit. He usually gets my hand me downs so might have to wait a bit till I upgrade my board/CPU next .... unless I can find a cheap 2nd hand update to some slightly new gen stuff.
I've found the very best of this video when reaching the conclusion. Nope, it's not the PC, not even the GPU. Let's just say it's Mr. Budget-Builds best four-leg friend.
i ran a q9650 till 2020, it was a huge jump to a ryzen 5 3600. i only found a few games that gave me trouble or would not load. Even played Just Cause 3 on it, GTX 1660 OC and 8gb ddr2 800 lol
I gamed with my qx6700 overclocked to 3.5ghz with a pair of crossfired over clocked gigabyte 6950s on a triple screen 1440x900 setup up until last year. Now I'm thinking it may make for a great dedicated server for a few of my favorite games since it's just sitting in storage doing nothing these days.
Q6700 OCed from 2.66 to 3.33GHz ran for me from 2008 till about 2016 playing games like DCS before online stuff got too laggy to use, beastly processors
q6600 was my first quad core. I had a good one too. Was able to push it to 3.2ghz. I forget what card I put in it. I think it was the Geforce 9800gt. It also was a Dell in the same case.
I'm currently running a i7 860, gtx960 4gb and 16gbs 1600mhz and I have to say it's not too bad. I can play a ton of games on medium to high at 1080 75hz
I played witcher 3 on this CPU (OC from 2.4GHz to 3.3GHz) with a 7750. It struggled at 720p and only played smoothly at 480p. CS:GO however, 100fps @ 1024x1280. for a 15 year old PC and a £10 investment its a fantastic system.
I do admit it's impressive to see how much this quad core can pull off at its age but still there is a definite bottleneck situation going on. A better CPU and RAM would obviously provide the extra performance
In 2019 I played Metro Exodus on a beast from 2008: Asus P5Q deluxe, 8GB DDR2@1066 and a Q9550 OC'd to 3.2GHz. Video card? GTX1060 6GB. The game ran smooth at 1080p with some things turned down of course. It was perfectly playable, and the graphics were stunning although you could feel it struggle under all that load. It is interesting to see how demanding the games became mostly on the graphical side. The 2008 hardware(CPU and RAM) was good enough to play the game, but try even a HD4870 X2 and it would struggle .
I recommend spending about 10 to 15 bucks on a Q9550, its a bit quicker and a slightly more modern CPU and might even run your r at higher frequency (800 MHz instead of 667 MHz), so it could make a significant difference
Loved the q6600 I ran from 2008-2013. It clocked 50% faster on air like a beast, was ahead of its time and never gave me any trouble. Shame it's poor IPC numbers and lack of specific instructions compared to i7 onwards makes it underperform and unusable for modern gaming these days; I'll always cherish that first quadcore.
I have an 8 year old pc that I built myself. I5 processor, 24gb of RAM. It originally had a GRX650, I upgraded to a, GTX1050 Ti. No problems. but that's as far as I can go. Any more powerful video card would outrun the processor
i dont why this pc is so bad. i had a long time ago a pc with a q6600 with a mod that pushed it to 3 ghz, 6 gb ddr2 and a gtx 1050 ti. i could play alle games, in gta had i 50 fps on 1080p very high settings, could play easly fortnite and csgo on the higst settings 1080p with more than 120 fps. I don´t know why you Benchmarks so bad are 🤔
The tape OC does help performance greatly, and will be covered featuring this PC at some point. As for settings GTA V became very unstable with High settings and FPS drops, as we are 600Mhz behind the tape mod, which greatly helps with processing shadows and post-FX.
This man has as much RAM as VRAM. What a legend
Always split 8's
And? I have my first (1997) Socket 7 build still running with a 128MB ATI Radeon 9250 PCI! ...with 64MB SD RAM!
@@dallesamllhals9161 bro… why
@@AsianFlex ..'cause I'm OLDer than you?
C64? Amiga? ..move along kiddo!
@@dallesamllhals9161 Cool, you're old i guess. It's just a little odd that you have a computer that's 25 years old at this point, unless you planned on running retro games without having to do emulation that thing is practically e-waste. Also just saying c64 and amiga doesn't exactly give you any cred because those were both incredibly popular systems that most people that are interested in computers know about. That's like bragging you know about the atari 2600.
The fact that 15 years old CPU can even start modern games is quite remarkable if you ask me 🙂
That's thanks to the fact Intel didn't go balls on "Innovation" and obsolete the sandy bridge by 2014. Thanks to Intel, we can have this.
US$851 CPU at launch
its a quad core and still better than my potato i3 dual core
I have that same pc and im stuck gaming on it if i wanna play pc games but i have a series s
@@Nat3Dogg Play big triple A titles on your series s and use the PC to play older titles and indie games :)
BBO living in opposite reality, where GPU are the cheapest PC component while everything else is expensive af
Have you tried doing it with the pin covered in order to make the CPU go from 2.4GHz to 3GHz ? I don't think it would change much, but still, if you weren't already doing it, I think you might get slightly higher results
Valid since it is a free overclock lol
@@somehow_not_helpfulATcrap all, ALL LGA775 CPU's, on ALL mobos can use this pinmod.
@@operator8014 that's not true iirc some CPUs run in the higher frequency mode by default
@@somehow_not_helpfulATcrap thats true but you can look up schematic draw up your own voltage mod or etc etc counter the instability through hardware mods it is unruly but useful especially if you want to resell old pc with a bit more tolerable user experience. and the incompatibility issue just get good internet and use game streaming better than dealing with all the sse bullshit
people dont post the mods anymore cause its intellectual property blah blah but you can look up documents all you feel like and draw up your own mods based on diagrams and etc etc i can raise and lower voltage of the intel core 2 quads on any board even the hybrid ddr3 models. im on core 2 quad q6600 configured to 2.66 ghz through bios modification of the FSB speed and i am working on getting it stable past 3.0 ghz
It's more 12 years old 😉
I have used a Core2quad with DDR2 until 6 months ago. Its motherboard (P5Q-E) was from 2009. I had maxed out the RAM with 4x2GB. USB was still USB2 on the board, so I had to bring USB 3.0 with an addon card. Still, it has served us well for 12 years as the primary family PC (the last years with a modded xenon CPU) !
That was my first thought as well, but no, all of the components are now legit 15 years old!
Are u emotionally attached with that pc ?
@@sujitpachode3207 lol....hes gona run that computer into the ground. Til his stuff goes 1 frame per second.
RTX Graphics Card still works in 2022
Haha 😅
Glad to see you back to uploading semi-regularly!
Well, I am surprised with this result. It's amazing that you managed to get some of these games working at all.
Personally, I'd just use the system as it was meant to be, leaving the 8GB DDR2 installed, and just using it for more retro games and operating systems.
You can still run newer games in a pentium 4
I've got an old Dell Vostro (business version of the PC you featured) that I upgraded over the years. I used it for gaming as late as 2016 thanks to a Q9550, 8 GB of RAM, and a GTX 560 SC. That little PC kept me gaming for almost a decade, so I'd say the platform actually aged surprisingly well.
Some of the best value is to be had in taking a used business desktop and goosing it up with more RAM, SSD, better GPU.
@@dthatcher7 For my old Vostro, I actually bought that new and upgraded over the years (my parents were nervous about used computers back then, and I was in early high school so I went with whatever they'd let me get).
However, last year, I decided to do the whole "get an eBay Optiplex and throw in a graphics card" for my brother, so he and I could game together without dropping $1000 on a PC for him that he'll only use once a week when gaming with me. The "upgrade an office PC" strategy is GREAT for low budget gaming.
Ah, back in the days when Dell produced decent PC's.
Try to pair the CPU with 16 GB DDR3 mem, new RTX 4060 Ti
gaming machine, running all modern titles !
@@lucasrem I'd definitely run that experiment if anyone wants to provide an LGA 775 board that supports DDR3 and an RTX 4060 Ti! :P
what i always found odd is how hyped the C2Q 6600 is, when there is a cheaper, faster and more modern variant for the same socket called the C2Q 8400
it still overclocks just as good too, so really no reason to get a 6600 instead of the 8400
not to mention the 8400 has newer SSE instructions, making more stuff work on it
not to forget core 2 quads were the best cpus from 2006 and 2007 apart from phenom
There is a two year gap in release date.
@@TrantaLocked yea? people reccomended the Q6600 in 2013 still for budget gaming
the Q8400 was long out and *still* the cheaper option at that point, as noone was hyping it up
@@Space_Reptile I only hear people mention the Q6600 in terms of it being popular in the day which is why it gets mentioned so much. Never would I see someone recommend buying anything other than a Q8000 or Q9000 series after 2010. I see these as separate conversations.
I've always been fond of the C2Q 6600 because the school I went to bought a bunch of second-hand office PCs that had the 6600 in them. Nostalgic CPU for me.
My ryzen processor died when I am waiting for my replacement processor to arrive I paired a gtx 960 with a q6600 gta 5 occasional stutter but its playable with lower settings and to my surprise the dx11 perform less stutter than the other dx version the fps is about 50 with 1080p low I found an 8gb ddr3 paired with g41 and locked 50 hz and disabled some settings in documents I managed to play and got a decent experience those days , After ryzen arrives it's a new experience .
I still think no one should be running a core 2 quad in this day and age for gaming purposes, but I am interested to see your core 2 quad video to see how it fairs in 2022. A lot of channels have labeled it as a dead cpu for gaming wise.
My Q9650 still works fine, not great by any means, but still usable
The only CPU or GPU that is "dead" is the one that can't reasonably run the games you want to play. So "dead" is a relative term depending on what games interests you. My gaming interests span from Wolfenstein 3D for DOS and the original Tomb Raider for DOS, Duke Nukem Atomic for DOS to The Talos Principle, Path of Exile, Trine 1 to 4 series, The Room 1 to 4 series, Destiny 2, The Witcher, real Myst Masterpiece Edition, Hitman everything, etc.
So my CPUs range from Pentium III @1GHz on Socket 370 Soyo motherboard paired with Nvidia TNT2 M64 AGP4X to AMD Sempron 3100+ @1.8GHz Socket 754 on MSI-7142 motherboard paired with Chaintech GeForce FX-5200 AGP 8X card to Intel Core 2 Quad Q9660 @3.0GHz socket 775 on Gigabyte motherboard paired with MSI Nvidia GT-640 Afterburner in PCIe 2.0 slot. To AMD Ryzen 3 1200 @3.1GHz on Gigabyte B450 motherboard paired with Sapphire Pulse AMD Radeon RX-570 4GB GDDR5 RAM. If the game interests me, I play it on whatever hardware provides best compatibility! Happy Gaming to you all.😊
jokes on you im still burning my core 2 duo and the gt210 for csgo but im on the lowest ranks but still really fun at 640x480
(Among the first ones). Pretty impressive at how GPUs now save that aging beast from being e-waste.
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If I had an RTX card, I'd want to put it in my top-tier X58 platform, just for lulz. That triple-channel chipset configuration was no joke.
My Rampage III Formula board had a SATA 3 controller as well, so running an SSD vastly benefited performance over SATA 2.
It's an i7 990X-powered system with 24GB DDR3 (Mushkin RedLine 2133MHz kit) that I ran for ten solid years before upgrading to a(n) Z390/i7 9700K setup and 128GB DDR4 (G.Skill Trident Z Neo 3200MHz kit).
I feel like X58 was the bare minimum for decent semi-modern gaming; I had a Q6600 and a Phenom II 1100T system before my brief stint in 990FX and ultimate transition to X58. I was so sad when they could no longer seem to keep up (or keep cool trying).
I now have two Z390 systems and one X58. All GTX-powered: ROG Poseidon 1080Ti ($550), ROG Poseidon 980Ti ($350), EVGA 980Ti SC2 ($150). People used to joke about how I never sold my old graphics cards and had so many lying around; now that the GPU market is what it is, I'm finally having a laugh.
I'm also building a Ryzen 7 5800x system on a budget right now, and the 980Ti SC2 will be going in that; the X58 will be getting its original Strix R9 380-OC back, now that the die-temps are no longer giving off "Chernobyl fuel-rod surface-temp." readings after receiving a full teardown and service.
This was fun to watch, tho. I kinda wanted to do an old Core 2 build for nostalgia' sake and this totally reminded me why that was a bad idea. Thanks for posting!
yeah would be nice with more 3-4 channel systems but naah we get 2..
128gb of RAM with an i7-9700k system? I thought my 32gb of RAM was overkill.
@@pengu6335 "I paid for 4 slots, I'm using all of 4 slots, and damn the expense!"
It was actually a really good deal at the time. I've never owned anything over 32GB prior.
I wanted 64GB (4x16GB) originally, but I saw the discount sticker on the 128GB (4x32GB) kit and knew it was then or never.
Came in really handy when I didn't have any spare modules for the portable ITX when I built it; split it 64GB and 64GB until I got 16GB DDR4 4000 (Balistix Max RGB) for $80 at Micro Center around the holidays.
You see it as overkill; Chrome sees it as "more food". lol
Frankenstein PC builds are amazing!
I also got Cyberpunk working on a Q8400 with a patch... Runs at 5-15fps depending on location lol 😂but in more sensible games the Core 2 Quads actually do very well, you can play a lot of older and simpler games on it at a stable 60+fps. They're still great for web browsing, word processing, 1440p youtube is also possible (4k struggles). Still capable and cheap.
This takes me back to being a teenager and the family computer was terrible, it had the worst gfx card they could get away with putting in and telling my dad it was a gaming pc, i then took on a few jobs and saved every penny i could and eventually got a midrange for the time gfx card, then i learned that the cpu was weak... and the ram was slow.... and the list went on ahhh memories lol, im so pleased time pc went out of business
Graphics cards have always been a source of lies and deception, especially when you don't know and better, and are not looking to spend a fortune.
I remember getting fleeced on a laptop I bought... Saved up some extra money to get one with a 3d graphics card so I could at least play some light 3d games if I wanted to (although I was never much of a gamer). I plunked down $1500 of my hard earned money on a laptop with "3d graphics" only to find out it was not 3d, just some bullshit "neomagic" (the maker of the graphics chip) made up.
So I was stuck with a standard graphics card again (only worse because it shared system ram).
@@volvo09 I remember getting an HP or Gateway laptop with the Nvidia 7150M GPU....emphasis on "M". Ugh. Never again. I swore off laptops for quite a while after that.
When I upgraded my old AMD FX-4100 computer with an NVIDIA GTX 1050 Ti, I quickly realized that the CPU was the bottleneck. Ooh boy, that was fun. But I was able to play Doom 2016 on medium or high settings in 1080p with playable framerate back in the day, so I can't complain. I bet the 1050 Ti can still be useful as I wait out the GPU apocalypse with a better CPU, mobo, SSD, and RAM.
People often underestimate how much having a slower cpu can negatively impact gaming performance.👍
Phenom II 1100t@4GHz and GTX 970 here :-P
"People often underestimate how much having a slower cpu can negatively impact gaming performance.👍" And YOU know that 'cause you tried it? Hmmm...
I got the fx 4100 before and I oc it to 4.7ghz at around 1.45v, works a lot better than original but it bottleneck the 6700xt a lot lol
@@paub5100 If I had a better board and cooler for it, I would have tried to OC it. But honestly, I'm just glad my buddy gave me the processor and some entry level Gigabyte mATX thing lol. It served its purpose well. Time to buy a proper setup now.
@@Ricelord4 the fx4100 can easily oc to 4.5ghz with stock cooler and the performance gain is very obvious too
I expected this to be an insane bottleneck. I did not expect the games to run as well as they did, not to say that they performed well, but the fact that you were able to run RDR2 for example is impressive. Still, in terms of practical purposes this should never be done unless the whole system is upgraded.
When I ran Red Dead on my Acer Nitro 5 (Core i5, GTX 1050, 8GB RAM) it lagged so hard I had to hold the power button and shut it off because I couldn't open task manager.
@@flying_Night_slasher I have a modern $4000 gaming laptop and I still have to hold down my power button when occasionally, GTA V decides to randomly crash, for whatever reason, crashing so hard that it brings Windows down with it.
Why? I plan to keep my ryzen 1800x and put a rtx 5090 ti with it. Despite people saying bottleneck, i would play at 4k60 ultra and VR 8k60 the cpu should be fine. Currently even in msfs2020 my cpu (6.5 years old) is not use more than 20-30% at 1440p, and i get 45/59 fps at high end at 1440p with my 6.5 years old gtx 1080ti.
this video is basically an alternate universe where GPU's are everywhere and CPU's are sold out and non existant 😂
This is something I would make an attempt at if i had the regular sized version of my current machine instead of the small formfactor variant. (It's got an i5 in it but uuuh... I dunno what gen beyond 'OLD.) and 8 gigs of ram (max of 16.)
For pretty much the same reasons to: 'It's dumb.... so le'ts see if we can make it EVEN DUMBER.'
You can buy a regular sized case and move the motherboard in
Oof, this should be fun...if your idea of fun is torturing PC parts til they scream and squeal for mercy.
The Core2Quad was an absolute beast back then. Aaah, good times.
I still use them on old 775 boards, only new RTX cards or GTX 1080 card.
they do run all modern titles on 1080p 60 FPS
Q6600 is a Beast... Cmon just think about it... The thought of using a 15 year old CPU to even just boot the latest windows let alone gaming is crazy. Like back when it came out if you tried to run an operating system let alone gaming on a then 15 year old cpu would sound like witchcraft lol
..used a Phenom 9850@3GHz until late 2019!
Your biggest limitations here won't be the age of the processor, but rather the PCIe generation. I imagine it's gen 2, so the cpu is probably working itself to death trying to feed the gpu through that slot. A faster cpu might help, but I reckon the pcie slot bandwidth is the problem here.
Re: newer games on older cpus; it's worth noting that some older cpus simply don't have the instruction sets used by some newer software. It'll either work, or it'll be broken.
No, it's the CPU. The CPU doesn't work harder if the PCIe bus is bandwidth limited. That's not how it works. It sends the SAME commands through the PCIe bus and the bus is either too slow or it's not. It's pretty much certain the CPU is the bottleneck.
@@photonboy999 Not really. If the bandwidth is smaller, the cpu has to queue up the data while it waits for it to be pushed through the pcie bus. There isn't an infinite amount of cache available, so the cpu will be constantly shifting they data around between caches and memory until its ready to go. The cpu is definitely a weak point, but not as weak as it seems, given the extra overhead its incurring managing the pcie bus.
When you win a graphics card at a giveaway
I'm so happy you have started to upload semi regularly, considering you are one of the best tech channels out there.
C0w0rrado video when?
I tried a Q9650 with a gtx 1070. And although it has clear bottlenecks, it... did work! i was losing around 25-35% performance but it worked!
you were losing more than that
FH4/5 requires SSE4.1 support, so you need a Q9650 CPU, otherwise Q6600 won't work.
If you want to have a cheaper CPU with SSE4.1 support, and you can get a Q8300.
I’ll have to try it on my core 2 quad q9550.
@@EvilTurkeySlices It worked well with my X5450 (modded BIOS, equal performance as Q9650) just anything Q9xxx series, E/X54xx series that allows to play it modern games with SSE4.1 support. (If you ask me, "what about dual-cores?" It's painful enough to suffer or game wouldn't boot or in-game)
@@Jenci dual cores are great for gaming around the time the systems came out. A windows XP or Vista build will perform way faster with a high even core 2 duo over a quad.
Can’t wait my grandpa gave me the same pc and I want to make a sleeper build in his honor,He owned a antique business as well as a fisherman,sadly passed away 2020 ,Before he passed he gave me a computer tool kit,I went to tech school and never went through with it ,And gave me the story of the tools 2 days before he passed away this is inspiring.Thank you
This was really well done! It's nice to see someone who has some knowledge of older and newer hardware. A lot of youtubers kind of drop the ball and can't identify anything more than 10 years old. Can you post the model of that PC's motherboard? Most of those Vista-era Dell Inspiron systems (like the 530) I have come across could support any Core 2 CPU with two cores, but quad cores were off limits. If that thing can support Core 2 Quads it must have the G33M03 motherboard (I had to Google this as It was long forgotten information for me), so I'd be curious as to how it'd run with a newer CPU or with a pad-modded Socket 771 Xeon. The Q6600's anemic 2.4Ghz clock speed and 1066Mhz BUS are pretty limiting compared to the higher clock, BUS and cache on a Q9550, Q9650, Xeon X3370, Xeon E5450 etc.
he needs the DDR 3 boards for the old Core CPU !
Q9650 here, on new RTX card ! 1080p@60 FTS !
ive been using a core 2 quad q9550 4gb ddr2 ram with a 3070 for quite some time
getting used to less fps to make my 5600x something special
That Astra g gameplay looks pretty good for an older game
I can't find anything about this game at all!!! It looked to me like metropolis Street racer on the dreamcast? Do you have any information on this game?
@@kristianity77 sadly I don't
Probably first
This reminds of the old days of graphics accelerators when some people realized that upgrading from a Voodoo 1 to a Voodoo 2 wouldn't be a huge boost in performance, they had to upgrade the rest of the system to get the best of it. Very good video btw, this is something no one else would ever test.
Now throw the RTX on an AMD FX, it's got the instruction set
I’ve really been digging these videos lately and binge watching them, love the content dude keep it up :)
There is still more performance to be had on this thing by either BSEL tape modding the Q6600 to run with 1333Mhz FSB, or upgrading to a Q9650, as from what i've read the Inspiron 530 supports 1333Mhz FSB. From my experience with an OptiPlex 755 with Xeon X3363 (~Q9550) and 1050 Ti, it pairs much more evenly than what's demostrated here!
That PC was actually my first one lol,later on I paid for a GTX 950 SC and it was good enough
Later I bouth a dell optiplex with an i5 3470 and then bought a GTX 1660 TI and I worked for a full year to build my own pc and now I have a good PC
Ryzen 5 3600
GTX 1660 TI
16 GB of DDR4 3200
2 TB of storage between an SSD and a M.2 NVme
Perfectly balanced. As all PCs should be.
love my q6600 with pin mod! It is my main pc at work - in use daily- now with 8 gig, ssd and gtx1650 (single slot, because dell) 😁
You do not have OSD on screen and no CPU overclock, if you don't know, core 2 quad once overclocked, show a massive performance boost in gaming
Windows 7? I have an Asus M5A97 R2.0 with an AMD FX-6300, 16gb of G.Skill DDR3, Running Windows 7 SP3Ult, And an Underclocked Zotac nVidia GeForce 550Ti AMP! Edition with 1 GB GDDR5. Do you think an RTX 3050 would be a suitable upgrade for now?
Do you have a i5 2400 or i7 2600? Maybe 4th Gen for AVX benefits...?
Forza Horizons 4 worked perfect at around 25fps at 720p with all settings on low on my little Dell Studio 540 (Q8200 2.3Ghz, 8gb RAM, AMD R5 240/HD 8570).Haven't tried 5 yet though.
Love the vids as usual!
I thought 11:35 "thirst fought" was pretty funny
I install RX 550 on my LGA 1155 motherboard but it's not showing display after it so I update Bios to the latest version and it's works, So the question here if I upgrade to RTX can it shows display or no because there is no more BIOS to update the latest version of it is 2013 V 2.7
Try this Q2Q with DDR3 mobo, and overclock cpu over 3ghz and then ram run over 1333mhz. Q2Q has huge overclocking possibility.
You can hack that OEM q66000 by shorting two pins with a small piece of tape and bump it up to 3ghtz stable, which would buy you about an extra 5fps. Did the performance hack to my moms old HP and been running stable for years on the factory cooler. There is tons of videos on here of how to do it. But, in some of the titles you demo, 5fps would be, the difference between playable and unplayable.
Question: Can you use an older GPU with a new CPU?
For example: A Geforce 9800GT (A 2008 GPU) with one of intel's newer CPU's?
Sure
Master "Chef" Collection? LMAO!
The best Windows XP to exist ngl. I still use this PC (it's not windows XP anymore it's windows 10 but...)
I actually found a similar pc at a thrift store recebtly. An inspiron 570 with 16 gigs of gskill, and an actual gtx 960 oc for 6 bucks.
C2Q Q6600 was a great chip back in the day. I've just stuck the same rtx 3050 into my son's rig... he's running my old i5 4690k in a z97 board.... it upgraded a 1050ti it's definitely better but not night and day. Even in that rig I'm noticing the CPU is a bit of a bottleneck now but it does run well if you turn down the settings a bit. He usually gets my hand me downs so might have to wait a bit till I upgrade my board/CPU next .... unless I can find a cheap 2nd hand update to some slightly new gen stuff.
I've found the very best of this video when reaching the conclusion. Nope, it's not the PC, not even the GPU. Let's just say it's Mr. Budget-Builds best four-leg friend.
prediction: cpu will die
i'll update this comment when video is over
update: it didn't. i'm pretty surprised that it got as far as it did.
Q6600 is immortal, you can't kill it.
I have almost same PC with: Q8300,GTX1650 and 6gb ram~800mhz
i ran a q9650 till 2020, it was a huge jump to a ryzen 5 3600. i only found a few games that gave me trouble or would not load. Even played Just Cause 3 on it, GTX 1660 OC and 8gb ddr2 800 lol
I was hoping to see Forza Horizon 5 running... Better luck next time! Thanks for the video!
6:45 I remember trying Quake 2 RTX on a Q6600, but with a 6GB GTX 1060, since Nvidia released CUDA based Ray Tracing for Pascal cards, yeah, like
People run windows 10 on core 2 Duos. DAILY! That's all I have to say.
What's the name of the game @10:10 mark. It looked interesting.
I believe it's MSR (Metropolis Street Racer) for the SEGA Dreamcast
Hay I have questions about GTX 750 ti can put in ddr 2 and CPU core i5
I gamed with my qx6700 overclocked to 3.5ghz with a pair of crossfired over clocked gigabyte 6950s on a triple screen 1440x900 setup up until last year. Now I'm thinking it may make for a great dedicated server for a few of my favorite games since it's just sitting in storage doing nothing these days.
You could do a good Jeremy Clarkson impression
during world war 3 , most techs armies will use old cpu and latest gpu rtx 3090 ti just to send simple message " we doom ".
I was using a 1070 (RTX3050 level of performance) on a first gen i5 760 until the start of 2021... even RDR2 ran fine at 1080p...
I have a GTX 1050ti, about 2y old. Is it worth splurging on one of those expensive RTXs or waiting for prices to calm down a little?
Of course the 2nd option
Do you NEED an upgrade? If the answers is no then wait
It's nice to see videos with older hardware. I wonder how would that card would pair with an FX8320.
When I saw da thumbnail, I was like ‘the CPU will bottleneck lol’
I was right
Obviously it will bottleneck but it’s still a decent pc.
15 year old pc huh must have a pentium 3; * *core 2 quad** oh.... oh no oh my god
I would appriciate some MSI Afterburner onscreen stat
this is the best gaming pc you can have in the world. if you believe enough.
Why testing games in 720p ? 1080 does run at pretty much same framerate, and would be more impressive...
Thanks for this video !
Some effects do have a tendency to scale with resolution, and even the tiniest increase can really hurt performance on these old CPUs.
Lol imagine 3090ti on core 2 quad or athlon 64 or phenom
POV: you won a GPU giveaway but your pc is a toaster fire
Q6700 OCed from 2.66 to 3.33GHz ran for me from 2008 till about 2016 playing games like DCS before online stuff got too laggy to use, beastly processors
q6600 was my first quad core. I had a good one too. Was able to push it to 3.2ghz. I forget what card I put in it. I think it was the Geforce 9800gt. It also was a Dell in the same case.
I have a Pc with a core 2 quad q6700 in it and it’s good for some gaming and basic tasks
holy shit i had that exact same dell case! i had it with a q6600 cpu and a 9500gt
I have a dell xps 435mt with a i7 920....bet it would run much better...plus 6 ddr3 ram slot doesn't hurt either
I'm currently running a i7 860, gtx960 4gb and 16gbs 1600mhz and I have to say it's not too bad. I can play a ton of games on medium to high at 1080 75hz
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I played witcher 3 on this CPU (OC from 2.4GHz to 3.3GHz) with a 7750. It struggled at 720p and only played smoothly at 480p. CS:GO however, 100fps @ 1024x1280. for a 15 year old PC and a £10 investment its a fantastic system.
I had an old Q9550 system and that was already a bad bottleneck for a GTX 1070
I do admit it's impressive to see how much this quad core can pull off at its age but still there is a definite bottleneck situation going on. A better CPU and RAM would obviously provide the extra performance
This video is Undeniable proof that God is dead
Now this is content. Thank you for your service, Budgeful Bill.
In 2019 I played Metro Exodus on a beast from 2008: Asus P5Q deluxe, 8GB DDR2@1066 and a Q9550 OC'd to 3.2GHz. Video card? GTX1060 6GB. The game ran smooth at 1080p with some things turned down of course. It was perfectly playable, and the graphics were stunning although you could feel it struggle under all that load. It is interesting to see how demanding the games became mostly on the graphical side. The 2008 hardware(CPU and RAM) was good enough to play the game, but try even a HD4870 X2 and it would struggle .
15 years ago there was a PCI-E slot in it ?
I recommend spending about 10 to 15 bucks on a Q9550, its a bit quicker and a slightly more modern CPU and might even run your r at higher frequency (800 MHz instead of 667 MHz), so it could make a significant difference
Unlikely that a DDR2 era board/chipset would support it though
@@ubergeeknzwhat I suggested is all ddr2 era hardware, what do you mean?
The 3050 is literally being slightly poked by the game while the Q6600 is literally screaming xD
Loved the q6600 I ran from 2008-2013. It clocked 50% faster on air like a beast, was ahead of its time and never gave me any trouble.
Shame it's poor IPC numbers and lack of specific instructions compared to i7 onwards makes it underperform and unusable for modern gaming these days; I'll always cherish that first quadcore.
I have an 8 year old pc that I built myself. I5 processor, 24gb of RAM. It originally had a GRX650, I upgraded to a, GTX1050 Ti. No problems. but that's as far as I can go. Any more powerful video card would outrun the processor
Look up if you can put in a cheap xeon e3, they are cheaper than equivalent i7 usually, which one to get depends on CPU socket
i dont why this pc is so bad. i had a long time ago a pc with a q6600 with a mod that pushed it to 3 ghz, 6 gb ddr2 and a gtx 1050 ti. i could play alle games, in gta had i 50 fps on 1080p very high settings, could play easly fortnite and csgo on the higst settings 1080p with more than 120 fps. I don´t know why you Benchmarks so bad are 🤔
The tape OC does help performance greatly, and will be covered featuring this PC at some point.
As for settings GTA V became very unstable with High settings and FPS drops, as we are 600Mhz behind the tape mod, which greatly helps with processing shadows and post-FX.
@@BudgetBuildsOfficial My Pc was very stable and i had almost never FPS drops, also all games loaded pretty fast and i had just a hdd.
1?
i... i still use a radeon hd 5670
I guess it's time to upgrade my XP Core 2 Quad gaming PC with a new graphics card! Amusing stuff, thank you
This goes to show the even a 15 year old pc can run modern games if you buff up the graphics card a bit. A Masterpiece in my opinion. 👍👍👍
Bro, imagine the bottleneck
“Not as dead as I thirst fought” 😂