@@abdo206 sure. QA is short for "quality assurance." I tested various types of software, mostly at Intel in Oregon. At the time the Pentium 4 was releasing, I was on the team that tested the BIOS software for compatibility with the new processor. My group mostly was responsible for OEMs, like Dell, HP, Asus, etc.
My family went from a Pentium 1 to me visiting my grandmother every Sunday after church to experience how much faster her computer was using a Pentium II for several years until my family was able to afford a new Pentium III which felt even more powerful then my grandmother's computer! And later on we got a Pentium IV! It felt so cool watching the performance get better throughout my childhood!
Well looking back I see my small smartphone that run so much faster than any pentium CPU can run, and our phone doesn't have big ass heatsink attached on it.
@@thatsawesome2060 True. I guess the current gen experienced the same thing but with phones. The difference is 90s pc kids were reading PC Mag, dreaming and drooling over the next best thing.
Well, when I was a kid, I used to play with P4 1.6ghz and 32mb tnt2. After several years, my father bought a second hand fx5200. It was such an upgrade for me, then I overclocked it to it's death 😄 It only worked for several months, then tnt2 was back 😁
@@Ereghro fx5200 is a fantastic card. I used it as my daily in a Dell P4 2.26ghz for years and I remember finally being able to watch 480p videos after swapping in the fx5200, I had received it with a geforce2 MX400.
Prescott was so much different (31 pipeline stages or 11 more than Gallatin), despite it still being based on NetBurst, it should've been called ... Pentium 5.
I actually remember reading about the P4 in some complimentary airline magazine right before takeoff. That would've been back in August 2000, before the P4 even launched. Was just some small tidbit about Intel planning to release a 1.4 GIGAHERTZ(!) processor in November - and man was I pissed, having just purchased a very expensive 866MHz P3!
I just watched a video yesterday about the 1.4Ghz P3 vs 1.4Ghz P4, by uh.. Phil's Computer Lab? I think it was? The P3 Handily beat the P4 with both at 1.4ghz, and the 2.2? I think, one was mostly a match for it. Quake 3 for some reason though just looooooved the P4 and was a huge outlier.
I was pissed when my friend 4months later got dual core while I was stuck on single core he explained concept of dual core still runs e something the code
I worked in a computer shop in the late 90's and early 2000's. I remember when we got our first pentium 4. It was touted as a big deal... but as time went by people would walk by it on the way to the Athalons, and the Pentium 3's that sold well... It sat there for ages.
My first pc was a pentium 4. Used it for 6 painful years. I was so young that I hadn't even heard of AMD until AFTER I'd bought a core2 duo replacement
@@burkhard1256 gigabyte G power cooler that thing was so loud unless you had it at absolute lowest setting but tha would make the p4 boil and the original inter cooler would also make the p4 boil even wether it clean or not
I used a Socket 478 P4HT Prescott as my main PC until 2017. It was OK until about 2014, usable up until about 2015. After that, it was a nightmare. The XP on it was last installed in 2011, IDE hard drive, in 2016 the boot time was around 4 minutes, and I had to watch YT in 360p, despite in 2011 it way able to play 720p without problems. Yes, it was power hungry, and generated a lot of heat accordingly. I always joked the HT in its name comes from HEAT.
@@TheLucidLuxray Unfortunately, AMD CPUs are more vulnerable, due to GPU IP hack on their server. AMD touted their CPU to be the most secured CPU, only to be exploited first.
Interestingly, I also had one of these last Pentium 4s when I was collecting PCs, which also had a MSI motherboard that was only compatible with Pentium 4s and not Core 2 Duos and Quads.
I used one with with ASRock 775Dual-VSTA motherboard due to its excellent upgradeability (AGP and PCI-e support!). Later I replaced my Pentium 4 541 CPU to Core 2 duo e4600, and GPU from AGP 7300gt to PCI-e Radeon 4670 and this setup served me until 2015 year when The Witcher 3 arrived. That upgrade path was nothing short of legendary.
I remember the shock of changing my old radeon 1950 pro grfx card (12v at 35amp, I still have the powerbox!) years ago, around P4 time funnily enough, and suddenly having to put the heating on for the first time in ages! My combo of P4, the 1950pro, and a couple of HUGE crt screens was keeping a whole upper *floor* in my house warm at the time 👀🤣
Sega actually used a Pentium 4 3Ghz HT for their Lindbergh Yellow arcade board, It was paired with a Geforce 6 6800 GT . Virtua Fighter 5 and House of the Dead 4 looked really good for 2005-2006.
This takes me back. I bought a pre-built in Jan 2007 with a P4 631@3GHz. I upgraded to the Core 2 Duo E6300 @1.86GHz and got double the performance due to it having 2 physical cores and a higher bus speed. 800 vs 1066.
Not uncommon at all. The modern Intel logo was introduced in late 2005 or thereabouts. P4 remained popular through late 2006, until the widespread availability of the Core 2 Duo negated any reason to buy it. So there are plenty of 2006 systems with a P4 and the sticker on the case bears the more modern Intel logo.
I still have my old P4 Northwood with an 800mhz FSB, when Prescott came out I just passed and waited until the core 2 duos came out. It still works great....well great for running things of it's era anyway.
Everybody forgets that the Pentium 4 was to be paired with RDRAM. That was what Intel had intended all along. It was to be a balanced system with good performance but perhaps a little pricey. However, the OEM's insisted that Intel use SDRAM. To make a long story short, Intel redesigned the Pentium 4 to use SDRAM. Unfortunately, that negatively affected the Pentium 4's performance...and the rest as they say is history.
This is true but the difference was small. A Pentium III Tualatin with SD-RAM had no trouble to beat the Pentium 4. Even Intel realized how big of a failure the Pentium 4 was. At the time they had a separate team working on mobile CPU's. They came with the Pentium M and at a much lower clockspeed they humiliated the Intel desktop team. This was the moment Intel internally restructured the company. No more separated teams for mobile and desktop... Pentium M became the basis for the hugely successful Core 2 Duo.
RDRAM does nothing worthwhile even for the Willamette 850 chipset that supports it. Pipeline is too long, fsb is too low, trace cache replay system causes wasted cycles. But most of all pipeline go stall and needs constant reloading.
High letency ram for processor suffering high letency problems caused by it's bad design? Yeah right..If you really know about P4 architecture flaws specially those first ones RDRAM only - it's cache, its association, non standard line size, way pipeline worked, number of cycles for common instructions, specially SSE - if you knew that you will not try to repeat these marketing myths. And did some testing on RDRAM (PhilsComputerLab for example) vs SDRAM. Pentium 4 was badly designed CPU and RDRAM was simmilarly bad concept.
Worst cooler design throughout the whole of CPUdom though. I can say with confidence that throughout the last 70 years, there has never been a worse cooler- and I include the vacuum-tube computers in that! I cannot remember how many of these things people around me broke through the years, and how many additional, unnecessry hours have been spent trying to install or reinstall this cooler. Just a horrid patent! Truly abysmal! It amazes me no end, how they kept using this thing down the years.
San Andreas isn't my cup of tea, never been. But I can assure you, it looks and runs so much better on PS2 (the weakest console on the 6th generation) than GTA V running on the P4.
Might be interesting to benchmark Left 4 Dead 2 on these types of machines. It's a game that does a good job of bridging the gap between older titles, like Half Life 2, and a more recent game like GTA 5.
I always wondered about these punch holes on the box. Were these vents?! Did it require cooling while IN THE RETAIL BOX? Jokes aside, I remember juggling between Athlon XP, Pentium D and Core2 Quad, and being absolutely floored by performance jump on C2. Fun fact - Intel's team which proposed over 500 W 5 GHz P4 in Austin, got tasked to build sub - 1 Watt CPU, which ended up as Atom. Obviously pairing it with 945 was stupid, but hey, costs.
OK I have a few things to say. 1. I don't know if I should find pentium 4 good or bad. On the one hand the Pentium 4 was felt hotter than a heater, but on the other hand the Pentium 4 created the (still) bad pentium d, which, however, created the grEat core 2 duo. 2. BBO, again a awesome video. I am amazed that you "only" have 200000 subscribers. You deserved more. 3. Which operating system do you use privately? Thanks
1. The Core2Duo is closer to a Pentium M. It has no relation at all to a Pentium 4 or Pentium D 2. Cheers mate, 200k Special is in the works 3. I use whatever one wants to work best
Even Intel realized how big of a failure the Netburst architecture was. At the time they had a separate team working on mobile CPU's. They came with the Pentium M and at a much lower clockspeed they humiliated the Intel desktop team. This was the moment Intel internally restructured the company. No more separated teams for mobile and desktop... Pentium M became the basis for the hugely successful Core 2 Duo.
The Core 2 Duo came from the Pentium M. Hence why its Core (2). It also came from Pentium 3. Basically P3 -> PM -> C2D The Pentium D was made so Intel had a "glued-on" competitor to AMD's Athlon X2 while Intel rushed the dev't of the Core 2 Duo from the Pentium M. Funny how Intel is now in the same spot again, being squeezed by AMD's new Ryzen processors. But this time, they don't have any other architecture to rework with.
I'll always love how in Cinebench R11.5 I had Northwood, Prescott and Cedarmill all with the same score clock-for-clock. Even with Northwood being stuck inside a laptop with single channel DDR 333 vs dual channel DDR2 800 for the others.
Had a P4 "Prescott" 2.8 GHz 521 "HT" in a very hot Dell SFF Optiplex GX280 with a blower style CPU fan, 1 GB Blistering Hynix DDR2 and an ATi Radeon X300 SE, All on XP SP3 as a kid.. I murdered that poor Dell with soft body physics games like "Rigs of Rods" AKA "BeamNG.drive 1" and other games it definitely shouldn't have been playing.. Like HL2 and TF2.. Star Wars Jedi Knight Jedi Outcast II was the highpoint though.. Max settings, constant 60 FPS.. Although that PC ran so hot it literally made me sweat in FL summers, around 2008 - 2012 It's some of my fondest memories that I don't even get on my current PC build because i'm not a curious kid anymore. Great video. Was always curious about the "last Cedar Mill P4's" about what I expected, very cool.
I recall getting one of these in a retired server as a teenager. I distinctly recall getting 10-bit ("hdr") 2xxx something ("4k) resolution hitting damn near 60 in Portal 2 on my CRT, save for when I shot portals for the first time in an environment & it'd kill the pipeline for a solid second. The trick is to know how to optimize a windows xp installation until it's just network services & explorer running in like 70mb.
I remember having a 3.0GHz P4 HT on Socket 478 and one on LGA775 back in the day. Heck, I ran the 775 version of the 3.0GHz P4 HT with 2x1GB DDR2 sticks, a 1GB 9400GT (PCIe), 512MB 8400GS (PCI) & 256MB 7600GS (AGP) and Windows XP up until early-mid 2011 when I finally build an i7-2600K system. Yes, I had 2GB SysRAM & 1.75GB combined VRAM with XP, and I ran a triple monitor (pair of 1280x1024 TFT's & a 1024x768 CRT) setup with 1 monitor off of each GPU (all VGA), and it ran the Star Trek Online (Closed) Beta like a dream at the time! Now I'm in the middle of building a C2Q Q9505-powered system (was looking at the Q9650 on eBay at the time, but it wasn't worth shelling out for the extra 170MHz clock boost when I can gain that difference with overclocking the Q9505) with 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 & a 2GB GTX760 for playing XP-era games (with maybe some Vista/early-7 games), using a 128GB CompactFlash card on a CF-to-IDE adapter board to act as basically a PATA SSD, leaving the 4 SATA 3gbps ports free for future storage expansion. Just need to get a new ~550W PSU (semi-modular, if not full-modular) to get it operational as most of the PSU's got free and floating around are either
In NZ these were actually really common from release up until mid 2007. They were mainly shipped in either budget "business grade" machines running xp XP, or circa 2007 retail budget "vista basic" / "vista capable" home machines. I remember helping a friend upgrade the RAM in some sort of HP Pavilion that had this chip, which shipped with vista and 512MB.... We bumped it up to something like 2.5GB and after removing the bloatware, it was fine for basic internet use and office tasks. This was 2009 or so, meaning the internet was far less media intensive and youtube was basically still all 480p.
sadly my hp dc7600 board doesn't support C2d eventho' it using LGA775 socket (running pentium D 945 instead), only dc7700 actually came stock with core2duo
I've seen windows 10 running surprisingly well on P4's and the lower powered laptop C2D, but a recent change that nixed intel on board grfx on the laptops has totally destroyed that useability. I know intel on board 2000 and 3000 have had their win10 drivers removed, despite them working just fine for ages. This happened just a few months ago. Absolutely nothing changed apart from either Microsoft or intel decided its time C2D laptop owners bought a new machine, as bad as apple enforced obsolescence
What surprises more than anything is how good GTA V looks at 240p. That is mid 80s resolution for games. I didn't have a P4 at this time, I don't remember what I had. Technically I still owned (and still do) my Pentium 4m based laptop from 2002, but in Autumn of 2005 I bought a desktop and I just can't remember what it had other than the X-Fi (?) Soundblaster. Funny how memory can play tricks on you. But it definitely didn't have a Pentium 4 of any variation. The Pentium 4m was good for when released, though that system even by the time of Splinter Cell (Windows) was released started showing its age. Also partly I guess to its good, but quickly outclassed Radeon 7500m. By the time Juiced was released in 2005, it had to be retired. Probably nothing to do with this specific CPU as they are not exactly the same, but whatever. :) Thank you for another fun video. BTW, that was not dust, that was a desert inside that PC.
I just decommissioned a Pentium 4 631-based print server last year :) Cedar Mill isn't like Prescott. It still ran very hot though lol. Now in my stash of old LGA775 processors
One of my most memorable PCs was my Pentium 4 3.2GHz with 2Gb of Gskill Heatsink cooled RAM and a 256mb Geforce 7600GT AGP card... It was a fairly decent machine in its day... Crysis ran playable at med- high at 800x600. DOOM 3 ran playable.. half life 2 ran very well, dead space 1 ran great etc.. Had many years of fun with that machine until something died on the motherboard and it kept frying brand new hard drives within a couple of weeks... I tried everything to fix it until I wasted enough money replacing hard drives and power supplies etc if it wasn't for that issue I'd of kept it
I remember when just the word Pentium was a big deal. Having a Pentium meant you had a full color multimedia PC. It would be like going from the first iPhone to the iPhone 11. Basically just melt your face off excitement. People dropped like $3k on a new computer and they didn't even know why, they'd just end up playing solitaire on it and be totally jazzed about it. Such good times.
Hey, cool video. Also, I'd like to suggest something. I remember hearing from RandomgaminginHD that if you have a serious CPU bottleneck with your games and not a GPU one, putting the resolution up may actually increase fps as there is more load on the GPU than CPU.
Depends entirely on title. If a game is really really struggling then it can sometimes give enough load to the GPU to even out the performance a bit. Really though I test most settings and resolutions to give an ideal optimal setting dugong my benchmarks.
my 2004, 3.73 extreme with 660GTX bottlenecks with less res etc. But Only if you try running other programs. Frames per, run from 8 to 44 on most benchmark tests
I did notice that the CPU cooler heatsink was a bit choked-up with dust and lint, that could have contributed to the performance issues because in order for the CPU cooler heatsink to do its job effectively, it must be kept clean of dust and lint, otherwise the CPU overheats and causes sluggish performance, can also destroy the CPU in the process too, can also cause random bluescreens, you should give the CPU heatsink a good clean out and redo the performance tests.
I am currently building my ultimate XP machine which uses a 3.06Ghz HT CPU. Half life seems okay but I still have lots more to test. I am not filming it as my knowledge is somewhat lacking.
I luckily skipped over the entire netburst architecture. Went from an AMD-K6 233 to a Pentium3 1000... From there I got an AthlonXP 2400, to upgrade to a newer Athlon XP3000... I was disappointed in the performance gains. I then jumped to an Athlon X2-3800 which I found amazing.
I had a P4 640, was pretty good for the time, hyperthreading didn't do much at the time, but you could run windows XP 64bit. and encoding video was pretty quick.
The "cool" thing about the 65nm Intel Celeron D/Pentium 4/Pentium D is that they support the 64-bit versions of Windows 8.1 and Windows 10, the only Netburst processors ones that do, as they have some lesser-known instruction sets that 64-bit 8.1 and 10 require. With the 90nm ones, you'd have to make do with the 32-bit versions of those, or instead use the 64-bit version of Windows 7, as along as they support it, as even then, only certain 90nm Intel CPUs support 64-bit operating systems at all. While it's a bit hard to see at times, I believe your Pentium 4 HT 641 is the SL9KF revision, meaning it runs at a 65 watt TDP rather than the usual 86 watts, and very nearly the best Pentium 4 out there, price/power-to-performance wise. Still in the box new too! You lucked out with that one. The Pentium 4 HTs starting from 90nm and smaller are still alright CPUs. They still can do tasks well enough even in Windows 8.1. Haven't tested out Windows 10, but I believe others have. Overall it's still usable if one can tolerate the occasional stutter. It's not worth it when there are far better options are there that are even cheaper, run less hot, use less energy, and give much better performance in basically every task. But if one desperately needed a cheap used desktop without regard for its other specs and one finds it still uses at least a 90nm Pentium 4 HT and other options aren't available for whatever reason... it could be worse. Just stay away from most gaming. I played a Dota 2 match on a Pentium 4 HT 630 with a GeForce 210... 15 fps avg with drops to 3 fps at 900p is not a pleasant experience. The Pentium 4 actually bottlenecks the 210.
I'm still using a Pentium 4 on Windows 7. Works just fine, you just have to be patient. Even 720p RUclips playback will work, providing you use a dedicated GPU
Bought a 661, got a 671 instead. It was a great chip but it was about 6 years late. What I do not understand is how I played Oblivion on a Prescott P4 3 Ghz, Radeon 1950 XT Pro w/2gb ddr 400 and got much better frames than you did in Morrowind. What am I missing ?
Oblivion could probably utilise the Hyper Threading a lot better than Morrowind, which was known to be very heavy on single core IPC and preferred Pentium IIIs and C2Ds to Pentium 4s and Pentium Ds.
ahhhh, now this brings back a fond memory... I remember my best friend had an old PC with a P4 630 HT, it did not game at all so I decided to bring my Radeon HD6650 with me on a sleepover. I got it running and it managed to run Halo CE flawlessly, it felt so much better paired with a dedicated GPU.
I remember when i bought a P4 D 805 because it was the sleeper overclocker before Core 2 Duos took over the market and came down in price. Slapped a Zalman Copper 9500 on it at the time and it ran over the pricepoint for both the CPU and heatsink easily against higher priced P4's at the time
I had a 2.8Ghz P4 I ran for 6-7 years. It WAS hot... but with my machine having a dozen fans (literally), that wasn't a concern. I had 2 optical drives and 6 hard drives in my machine, oh and a pair of nVidia GPUs in SLI. But it was a faithful CPU that never gave up, even given the abuse I put it through. It just needed a beefy cooler and 2 fans mounted to it.
Pentium 4 2.8C was the first computer I ever fully built custom, and it was on a minimum wage income with a 9800 pro graphics card. Stuff was so much simpler back then.
My Pentium 4 motherboard died because of a bad capacitor recently, and it had this same Pentium 4 3.2Ghz Prescott. Now he is getting to my old processors storage box along side my first pc, AMD-K6 (486). I do confirm those temperatures, and in a way i loved the high fan noise when it ran almost at 4000 rpm xD In the summer, so i could game on it, i had to be just on boxers since the head in the room was too much... even at one time i openned the case and placed a fan into it. And no, the CPU fan still ran near 4000 rpm ahahah. It was a great PC for me, just like the AMD-K6... i grew up with both, and both made me interest in computers. The 486 even once ran Windows 7 Starter Edition, but of cource it took 30min to boot and more 30min to open task manager, ram and cpu at 100%, but it ran :D The P4 ran Windows XP, Vista, 7 and 8... Multiple Linux distros, with the resting one being Ubuntu Mate 20.04.3 LTS x64 as a backup server. It also ran iDeneb (Mac OS X Leopard), hackintosh as dual boot for a while. But i would always go back to XP, for me the best OS Microsoft ever made. Now he is getting replaced by a Core2Duo that i have around. Probably is nostalgy talking, since my father gave me as a christmas present during my high school years, and until getting in university i got an i7 (laptop)... but i liked it and, oh boy was it an upgrade from an 486 xD
You must game quite old. A recent free upgrade for me was an i5 4570, 16gb paired with an audigy2 & 9800gtx+ I bought an 870 ssd to replace a sata II platter. Its quite pleasant for older stuff. 1440x900@75
@@oldschooldude8370 I didn’t play a lot of games back then. Maybe just a few point and click adventure games. I’ve got a more powerful rig now, i7 3770 and an overclocked m4000 so that’s good for the more modern games.
I have a Pentium 4 in my old HP ZD8000, let me tell you, it's apparently not a laptop CPU but a full on desktop CPU to work with the whole "Media Center" laptop. The thing has 2 fans and a turbo fan. It got hot, a lot. The one good thing was, I was able to play HL2 and DOOM3 while classmates were playing CS1.6. But I'd wager their laptops might have lasted longer than 2-3 hours per battery, yes mine came with an extra battery which was neat...Till you realized the laptop weighs 13lbs/5.6kg which doesn't include the giant power brick that came with it. So, hot, heavy, giant. Which is why I haven't attempted to sell the thing, I'm not sure it's worth the postal hassle.
I built a pentium 4 3ghz, which was like $400 or so at the time. And the heat was no joke… it was absurdly hot. The stock cooler did not cut it, I ended up putting in an aftermarket thermaltake cooler and that barely got the job done.
You scared me when you dropped the CPU. Luckily the black guard was on. Do you know how hard it is to straighten the pins? I've seen them all completely flattened by not placing it properly and forcing the spring down. Not a pretty sight. It came with the round fan as Socket 775 was about or had just been announced/released. It was Dual Core so the boards could take the 32 bit 478 or the newer 64 bit 775 architecture. The fan was the best new thing they introduced to keep the running temperature lower. I still find complete units thrown out. I just collect them and if I meet anyone who needs one or help I have some in stock. The only thing I don't have plenty of is monitors. I'm still using a LCD 19" from 2004 for my testing.
I was rocking a Pentium 4 until 2016 or so, paired with an SSD and an AMD R5 270 1Gb it was enough to play League of Legends at the time (and im pretty sure you could still today).
Is tHe PEnTium 4 WOrTh it In 2020?
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@@BudgetBuildsOfficial i am watching this vid pentium 4
yEs iT iS!!
Can it run crysis?
6:52 If only that guy knew he got killed by someone playing at 5 Fps, I’d be so embarrassed.
R.I.P Donkey
Died due to embarrassment
Guy was probably using a Pentium 4 1.60Ghz
Probs was using my shitty laptop processor Intel celeron n3450
Also it's a year old and the whole laptop is dying
Tbh he just looked like he was AFK spinning in circles anyway. I get like two of those guys per match in DM nowadays, idk why lul
And that other dude got third partied to hell, can't really get hung up on that in a DM server
I was a QA tester at Intel back then, and tested the desktop BIOS for the P4 launch.
I'm curious, what kind of errors were you hunting for back then as QA tester?
May I ask about what is a QA tester ?
@@abdo206 Quality Assurance, which is used for checking a product for possible errors or defects and prevent them or fix them if found.
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Thanks
@@abdo206 sure. QA is short for "quality assurance." I tested various types of software, mostly at Intel in Oregon. At the time the Pentium 4 was releasing, I was on the team that tested the BIOS software for compatibility with the new processor. My group mostly was responsible for OEMs, like Dell, HP, Asus, etc.
My family went from a Pentium 1 to me visiting my grandmother every Sunday after church to experience how much faster her computer was using a Pentium II for several years until my family was able to afford a new Pentium III which felt even more powerful then my grandmother's computer! And later on we got a Pentium IV! It felt so cool watching the performance get better throughout my childhood!
Wholesome stuff!
Well looking back I see my small smartphone that run so much faster than any pentium CPU can run, and our phone doesn't have big ass heatsink attached on it.
I had to copy programs from a magazine, and save them to tape.
@@thatsawesome2060 True. I guess the current gen experienced the same thing but with phones. The difference is 90s pc kids were reading PC Mag, dreaming and drooling over the next best thing.
I’ve got a couple in XP gaming machines. Pair well with FX cards for a completely authentic experience. It’s horrible and I love it.
Just like Cradle of Filth.
@@paramjotsingh26 Playing UT99 and Quake III while listening to Midian is my jam.
Well, when I was a kid, I used to play with P4 1.6ghz and 32mb tnt2. After several years, my father bought a second hand fx5200. It was such an upgrade for me, then I overclocked it to it's death 😄 It only worked for several months, then tnt2 was back 😁
@@Ereghro fx5200 is a fantastic card. I used it as my daily in a Dell P4 2.26ghz for years and I remember finally being able to watch 480p videos after swapping in the fx5200, I had received it with a geforce2 MX400.
I'm still waiting for the Pentium 5
you got Pentium (G4)5(60)
Prescott was so much different (31 pipeline stages or 11 more than Gallatin), despite it still being based on NetBurst, it should've been called ... Pentium 5.
Well... we got core i9 so maybe someday Pentium 5 too lol
the pentuim e series
@@VeryVanillish imagine pentium e3/5/7
Other tech youtubers: So here is this super crazy expensive pc part that you probably can't buy
Budget Builds: haha pentium 4 go brrr
Normally dont like comments but this one 👏
@@Praneel Yes same here 👏
isnt it more like "pentium 4 go *_cough, cough_* " ?
*haha pentium 4 go [FAN SOUND]
@@und4287 oh, right.he did say expensive tho (as in performance)
I actually remember reading about the P4 in some complimentary airline magazine right before takeoff. That would've been back in August 2000, before the P4 even launched. Was just some small tidbit about Intel planning to release a 1.4 GIGAHERTZ(!) processor in November - and man was I pissed, having just purchased a very expensive 866MHz P3!
Steve F those willamette P4’s weren’t so great though, you were probably better off with the P3! 😀
2.0GHz Willamette was similar in performance to a 1.4GHz Tualatin P3
I just watched a video yesterday about the 1.4Ghz P3 vs 1.4Ghz P4, by uh.. Phil's Computer Lab? I think it was? The P3 Handily beat the P4 with both at 1.4ghz, and the 2.2? I think, one was mostly a match for it. Quake 3 for some reason though just looooooved the P4 and was a huge outlier.
I had a p4 back in highschool and it ran cs source perfectly. that's all I needed back then :D
I was pissed when my friend 4months later got dual core while I was stuck on single core
he explained concept of dual core still runs e something the code
I worked in a computer shop in the late 90's and early 2000's. I remember when we got our first pentium 4. It was touted as a big deal... but as time went by people would walk by it on the way to the Athalons, and the Pentium 3's that sold well... It sat there for ages.
My first pc was a pentium 4. Used it for 6 painful years.
I was so young that I hadn't even heard of AMD until AFTER I'd bought a core2 duo replacement
The last Pentium 4
-Tell me... How he died?
-No... I tell you how he lived
@ThinkGamer no, i just assumed you are still hot.... Garbage...
@@AchmadBadra Athlon64 kill him :D Just like Ryzen is killing Core i nowadays
@ThinkGamer Pentium: ¿¿¿
The Last Samurai reference. Love it.
@ThinkGamer eh well atleast it's not a Pentium 4 so you get a gold star
I remember my dad's windows XP machine with a Pentium 4 HT that had a cooler the size of of jet engine and it sounded like one as well 😂
Did he cleaned it ones or did he used it as a vacuum cleaner? Because that would explain the noise...
@@burkhard1256 gigabyte G power cooler that thing was so loud unless you had it at absolute lowest setting but tha would make the p4 boil and the original inter cooler would also make the p4 boil even wether it clean or not
The processor surname : the radiator
I used a Socket 478 P4HT Prescott as my main PC until 2017. It was OK until about 2014, usable up until about 2015. After that, it was a nightmare. The XP on it was last installed in 2011, IDE hard drive, in 2016 the boot time was around 4 minutes, and I had to watch YT in 360p, despite in 2011 it way able to play 720p without problems. Yes, it was power hungry, and generated a lot of heat accordingly. I always joked the HT in its name comes from HEAT.
@@xavierguipon5833 I called my Prescott PC a space heater 🙂 .
I feel so OLD seeing as I can remeber when the pentium 4 was a new thing!
CoolDudeClem wagwan!
I remember when the i486 was new so...
I remember when the Commodore 64 was the best gaming pc and the 8088 XT. I was well into my 20s when the Pentium 4 was out
@Shay you are 140 years old?
i remember when wheels was new
HT stands for Hot Trash
Nah mate, hyperthreading is actually really good tech
@@AveragePootis That is until Spectre and Meltdown killed it.
Those exploits have a lot more to with Intel's implementation of speculative execution not HT.
You think that's bad? How about Plundervolt killing undervolting?
@@TheLucidLuxray Unfortunately, AMD CPUs are more vulnerable, due to GPU IP hack on their server. AMD touted their CPU to be the most secured CPU, only to be exploited first.
Interestingly, I also had one of these last Pentium 4s when I was collecting PCs, which also had a MSI motherboard that was only compatible with Pentium 4s and not Core 2 Duos and Quads.
I talked to you in December on discord. I was the guy with the Athlon 200ge. Still one of my favorite moments. Keep making great vids bro.
A Pentium 4 single core in 2020 that brings back the good old days during the Windows XP era
Even though an athlon 64 from years ago performs better
@@joseislanio8910 the Pentium EEEE 990FX kicks it's ass tho (perhaps only in TDP)
The courage to run GTA 5 at 240p on a Prescott Grill...here, take my upvote and respect.
Courage? You mean patients?
@@9852323 courage and patience
@@9852323 patience*
u mean press hot?
prescott? it's more like "cedar mill".
I can't believe they kept netburst available through 2008.
I used one with with ASRock 775Dual-VSTA motherboard due to its excellent upgradeability (AGP and PCI-e support!). Later I replaced my Pentium 4 541 CPU to Core 2 duo e4600, and GPU from AGP 7300gt to PCI-e Radeon 4670 and this setup served me until 2015 year when The Witcher 3 arrived. That upgrade path was nothing short of legendary.
"Well its a Pentium 4, so you already know what to expect."
I expect that I will not have to buy a new heater for the winter!
I remember the shock of changing my old radeon 1950 pro grfx card (12v at 35amp, I still have the powerbox!) years ago, around P4 time funnily enough, and suddenly having to put the heating on for the first time in ages! My combo of P4, the 1950pro, and a couple of HUGE crt screens was keeping a whole upper *floor* in my house warm at the time 👀🤣
@@mor4y good old days. miss them.
Sega actually used a Pentium 4 3Ghz HT for their Lindbergh Yellow arcade board, It was paired with a Geforce 6 6800 GT . Virtua Fighter 5 and House of the Dead 4 looked really good for 2005-2006.
You always have a cool looking watch on, i'm a bit of a WIS myself. Can we have a budget horology official?
Budget Builds : "Goodnight"
Internet explorer on the Pentium 4: "The Pentium 4"
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Still 69 lol
This takes me back. I bought a pre-built in Jan 2007 with a P4 631@3GHz. I upgraded to the Core 2 Duo E6300 @1.86GHz and got double the performance due to it having 2 physical cores and a higher bus speed. 800 vs 1066.
I remember upgrading from a Celeron D 2.80GHz to a Pentium 4 3.40GHz one and that performance jump was so massive
who would expect a pentium 4 that would have the modern intel logo
Not uncommon at all. The modern Intel logo was introduced in late 2005 or thereabouts. P4 remained popular through late 2006, until the widespread availability of the Core 2 Duo negated any reason to buy it. So there are plenty of 2006 systems with a P4 and the sticker on the case bears the more modern Intel logo.
i still have pentium 4 ht with the modern intel logo
interesting
I still have my old P4 Northwood with an 800mhz FSB, when Prescott came out I just passed and waited until the core 2 duos came out. It still works great....well great for running things of it's era anyway.
Northwood's unite!
@@vtwinbreed Dempsey unite
Same 🙂 I jumped to E6600 on nForce 4 but always wished I had a Q6600 instead
Everybody forgets that the Pentium 4 was to be paired with RDRAM. That was what Intel had intended all along. It was to be a balanced system with good performance but perhaps a little pricey. However, the OEM's insisted that Intel use SDRAM. To make a long story short, Intel redesigned the Pentium 4 to use SDRAM. Unfortunately, that negatively affected the Pentium 4's performance...and the rest as they say is history.
One day I will cover the first of the Pentium 4s....But that might be a while away,
This is true but the difference was small. A Pentium III Tualatin with SD-RAM had no trouble to beat the Pentium 4. Even Intel realized how big of a failure the Pentium 4 was. At the time they had a separate team working on mobile CPU's. They came with the Pentium M and at a much lower clockspeed they humiliated the Intel desktop team. This was the moment Intel internally restructured the company. No more separated teams for mobile and desktop... Pentium M became the basis for the hugely successful Core 2 Duo.
Not only that, pentium 4 has long pipelines. AMD took the bait with bulldozer.
RDRAM does nothing worthwhile even for the Willamette 850 chipset that supports it.
Pipeline is too long, fsb is too low, trace cache replay system causes wasted cycles. But most of all pipeline go stall and needs constant reloading.
High letency ram for processor suffering high letency problems caused by it's bad design? Yeah right..If you really know about P4 architecture flaws specially those first ones RDRAM only - it's cache, its association, non standard line size, way pipeline worked, number of cycles for common instructions, specially SSE - if you knew that you will not try to repeat these marketing myths. And did some testing on RDRAM (PhilsComputerLab for example) vs SDRAM. Pentium 4 was badly designed CPU and RDRAM was simmilarly bad concept.
Crazy how modern Intel CPUs come with a nearly identical cooler!
some design just works
Worst cooler design throughout the whole of CPUdom though. I can say with confidence that throughout the last 70 years, there has never been a worse cooler- and I include the vacuum-tube computers in that!
I cannot remember how many of these things people around me broke through the years, and how many additional, unnecessry hours have been spent trying to install or reinstall this cooler.
Just a horrid patent! Truly abysmal!
It amazes me no end, how they kept using this thing down the years.
Those GTA V resolution and quality were so low that I literally thought it was driver 1
the GTA 5 looked so bad that at first I thought it was san andreas XD
Yep
Same
Yep, that's what I noticed also at first glance.
San Andreas isn't my cup of tea, never been. But I can assure you, it looks and runs so much better on PS2 (the weakest console on the 6th generation) than GTA V running on the P4.
I played SA a few years back
They are pretty good as a Windows 98 CPU, allthough I usually go for a 478 one.
Used this thing till 2017 , performed pretty good alongside 4GB DDRII and an SSD
I remember the days of the Blue Man Group promoting those Pentium 4s. That way of marketing actually sort of worked!
Might be interesting to benchmark Left 4 Dead 2 on these types of machines. It's a game that does a good job of bridging the gap between older titles, like Half Life 2, and a more recent game like GTA 5.
I always wondered about these punch holes on the box. Were these vents?! Did it require cooling while IN THE RETAIL BOX? Jokes aside, I remember juggling between Athlon XP, Pentium D and Core2 Quad, and being absolutely floored by performance jump on C2. Fun fact - Intel's team which proposed over 500 W 5 GHz P4 in Austin, got tasked to build sub - 1 Watt CPU, which ended up as Atom. Obviously pairing it with 945 was stupid, but hey, costs.
OK I have a few things to say.
1. I don't know if I should find pentium 4 good or bad. On the one hand the Pentium 4 was felt hotter than a heater, but on the other hand the Pentium 4 created the (still) bad pentium d, which, however, created the grEat core 2 duo.
2. BBO, again a awesome video. I am amazed that you "only" have 200000 subscribers. You deserved more.
3. Which operating system do you use privately? Thanks
1. The Core2Duo is closer to a Pentium M. It has no relation at all to a Pentium 4 or Pentium D
2. Cheers mate, 200k Special is in the works
3. I use whatever one wants to work best
@@BudgetBuildsOfficial ok thx
Even Intel realized how big of a failure the Netburst architecture was. At the time they had a separate team working on mobile CPU's. They came with the Pentium M and at a much lower clockspeed they humiliated the Intel desktop team. This was the moment Intel internally restructured the company. No more separated teams for mobile and desktop... Pentium M became the basis for the hugely successful Core 2 Duo.
The Core 2 Duo came from the Pentium M. Hence why its Core (2). It also came from Pentium 3.
Basically P3 -> PM -> C2D
The Pentium D was made so Intel had a "glued-on" competitor to AMD's Athlon X2 while Intel rushed the dev't of the Core 2 Duo from the Pentium M.
Funny how Intel is now in the same spot again, being squeezed by AMD's new Ryzen processors. But this time, they don't have any other architecture to rework with.
Nice to see you in my notifications. I’ve missed ya :)
i played this video loudly in my car, and it became a transformer.
You mean it became a core with wire windings?
@@SianaGearz oh hell yeah, and it moves by vibrating :D
@@SianaGearz no i mean it became transgender xd
I'll always love how in Cinebench R11.5 I had Northwood, Prescott and Cedarmill all with the same score clock-for-clock. Even with Northwood being stuck inside a laptop with single channel DDR 333 vs dual channel DDR2 800 for the others.
How much extra power does that 641 gets from putting its box inside the computer?
+6
I remember how much my mom used to complain about it. I was also 5 years old tho. Man the years fly by
True P4 are all on socket 478. This one is an impostor.
you forgot original iteration of NetBurst (Willamette) which is using socket 423
Had a P4 "Prescott" 2.8 GHz 521 "HT" in a very hot Dell SFF Optiplex GX280 with a blower style CPU fan, 1 GB Blistering Hynix DDR2 and an ATi Radeon X300 SE, All on XP SP3 as a kid..
I murdered that poor Dell with soft body physics games like "Rigs of Rods" AKA "BeamNG.drive 1" and other games it definitely shouldn't have been playing.. Like HL2 and TF2..
Star Wars Jedi Knight Jedi Outcast II was the highpoint though.. Max settings, constant 60 FPS..
Although that PC ran so hot it literally made me sweat in FL summers, around 2008 - 2012 It's some of my fondest memories that I don't even get on my current PC build because i'm not a curious kid anymore.
Great video. Was always curious about the "last Cedar Mill P4's" about what I expected, very cool.
5:45 I thought for a very long time that this was a "Driver" game
I recall getting one of these in a retired server as a teenager. I distinctly recall getting 10-bit ("hdr") 2xxx something ("4k) resolution hitting damn near 60 in Portal 2 on my CRT, save for when I shot portals for the first time in an environment & it'd kill the pipeline for a solid second. The trick is to know how to optimize a windows xp installation until it's just network services & explorer running in like 70mb.
I had one of the[ 540s] in... a LAPTOP! :D
HP ZD8000. Loved that little (it was massive) thing. :)
How much did it weigh?
@@tezcanaslan2877 Over 4kg! The carry case alone I still have to this day and that's near a kilo on i'ts own. Lol.
TechyBen Thats heavier than my Lenovo G580 from 2014 which is 3 KG approximately
I remember having a 3.0GHz P4 HT on Socket 478 and one on LGA775 back in the day.
Heck, I ran the 775 version of the 3.0GHz P4 HT with 2x1GB DDR2 sticks, a 1GB 9400GT (PCIe), 512MB 8400GS (PCI) & 256MB 7600GS (AGP) and Windows XP up until early-mid 2011 when I finally build an i7-2600K system.
Yes, I had 2GB SysRAM & 1.75GB combined VRAM with XP, and I ran a triple monitor (pair of 1280x1024 TFT's & a 1024x768 CRT) setup with 1 monitor off of each GPU (all VGA), and it ran the Star Trek Online (Closed) Beta like a dream at the time!
Now I'm in the middle of building a C2Q Q9505-powered system (was looking at the Q9650 on eBay at the time, but it wasn't worth shelling out for the extra 170MHz clock boost when I can gain that difference with overclocking the Q9505) with 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 & a 2GB GTX760 for playing XP-era games (with maybe some Vista/early-7 games), using a 128GB CompactFlash card on a CF-to-IDE adapter board to act as basically a PATA SSD, leaving the 4 SATA 3gbps ports free for future storage expansion.
Just need to get a new ~550W PSU (semi-modular, if not full-modular) to get it operational as most of the PSU's got free and floating around are either
3:22 Is it me, or did that just sound EXACTLY like "oof" from Minecraft?
Roblox
@@vikeghawlimz965 No, Minecraft.
It was my first CPU, back in 2007. So many memories !
I have played Terraria on a Pentium 4 631 and i reached the end game (i havent killed the final Boss because im bad at the game) It was in tge 1.3.5.
Btw It was a pain, but worth It. Because the game is awesome.
"still havent beaten the boss cause im bad"....honesty ftw 😁👍
That CS:GO experience is exactly when I played CS 1.5 with POD BOT 2.5 using my AMD K6 setup in 2004.
Good video man, and so the Pentium "series" shall end
Ya watch womble?
@@aidanatienza yeh
@@clusterhunt nice
In NZ these were actually really common from release up until mid 2007. They were mainly shipped in either budget "business grade" machines running xp XP, or circa 2007 retail budget "vista basic" / "vista capable" home machines.
I remember helping a friend upgrade the RAM in some sort of HP Pavilion that had this chip, which shipped with vista and 512MB....
We bumped it up to something like 2.5GB and after removing the bloatware, it was fine for basic internet use and office tasks. This was 2009 or so, meaning the internet was far less media intensive and youtube was basically still all 480p.
my childhood was powered by the pentium 4
i'm still kinda sad about its demise
my first pc was an hp compaq running on a pentium 4 2.8 Ghz, 512 mb of ddr ram anda harddrive that had a whopping 40 gb of storage
Same. My first PC was a Windows XP 2002 Sony Vaio with a Pentium 4 2Ghz, 512 mb RAM, and an 80 gb hard drive. I still have it and it still works.
My first PC was a Gateway 820GM with a 2-thread Pentium 4 at 3 GHz, 1 whopping Gb of RAM, and an ultra powerful Radeon x300. It still works today.
my first PC that was my own was a Sony Vaio with a pentium 1 100mhz, 32mb of EDO ram, and a 1gb hdd lmfao. 28.8kbps modem...those were the days hahaha
I have been waiting for this !! Thank you Budget-Builds !!
Well I would say the Pentium 4 is just obsolete for 2020. At least a Core 2 Duo is the minimum basic still viable option for a cheap desktop.
sadly my hp dc7600 board doesn't support C2d eventho' it using LGA775 socket (running pentium D 945 instead), only dc7700 actually came stock with core2duo
I've seen windows 10 running surprisingly well on P4's and the lower powered laptop C2D, but a recent change that nixed intel on board grfx on the laptops has totally destroyed that useability. I know intel on board 2000 and 3000 have had their win10 drivers removed, despite them working just fine for ages. This happened just a few months ago. Absolutely nothing changed apart from either Microsoft or intel decided its time C2D laptop owners bought a new machine, as bad as apple enforced obsolescence
I've got a rare early Pentium 4 Willamette socket 423 2GHz in a box I built circa 2000. She still runs and serves as a garage computer running Linux.
keep the package, it looks nice
What surprises more than anything is how good GTA V looks at 240p. That is mid 80s resolution for games.
I didn't have a P4 at this time, I don't remember what I had. Technically I still owned (and still do) my Pentium 4m based laptop from 2002, but in Autumn of 2005 I bought a desktop and I just can't remember what it had other than the X-Fi (?) Soundblaster. Funny how memory can play tricks on you. But it definitely didn't have a Pentium 4 of any variation. The Pentium 4m was good for when released, though that system even by the time of Splinter Cell (Windows) was released started showing its age. Also partly I guess to its good, but quickly outclassed Radeon 7500m. By the time Juiced was released in 2005, it had to be retired.
Probably nothing to do with this specific CPU as they are not exactly the same, but whatever. :)
Thank you for another fun video.
BTW, that was not dust, that was a desert inside that PC.
Please make a 2020 review on legendary Athlon 64 fx 🙏
I just decommissioned a Pentium 4 631-based print server last year :)
Cedar Mill isn't like Prescott. It still ran very hot though lol. Now in my stash of old LGA775 processors
Preshott P4 🤣🤣
One of my most memorable PCs was my Pentium 4 3.2GHz with 2Gb of Gskill Heatsink cooled RAM and a 256mb Geforce 7600GT AGP card... It was a fairly decent machine in its day... Crysis ran playable at med- high at 800x600. DOOM 3 ran playable.. half life 2 ran very well, dead space 1 ran great etc.. Had many years of fun with that machine until something died on the motherboard and it kept frying brand new hard drives within a couple of weeks... I tried everything to fix it until I wasted enough money replacing hard drives and power supplies etc if it wasn't for that issue I'd of kept it
I remember when just the word Pentium was a big deal. Having a Pentium meant you had a full color multimedia PC. It would be like going from the first iPhone to the iPhone 11. Basically just melt your face off excitement. People dropped like $3k on a new computer and they didn't even know why, they'd just end up playing solitaire on it and be totally jazzed about it. Such good times.
Imagine if they had the Pentium EEEE 990FX back then!
Hey, cool video.
Also, I'd like to suggest something. I remember hearing from RandomgaminginHD that if you have a serious CPU bottleneck with your games and not a GPU one, putting the resolution up may actually increase fps as there is more load on the GPU than CPU.
Depends entirely on title. If a game is really really struggling then it can sometimes give enough load to the GPU to even out the performance a bit.
Really though I test most settings and resolutions to give an ideal optimal setting dugong my benchmarks.
@@BudgetBuildsOfficial ah OK, thats good to know.
my 2004, 3.73 extreme with 660GTX bottlenecks with less res etc. But Only if you try running other programs. Frames per, run from 8 to 44 on most benchmark tests
Pentium 4 didn't have L1 instruction cache memory, that is why it's so much slower than a core 2 duo. Something Intel learned never to do again.
I did notice that the CPU cooler heatsink was a bit choked-up with dust and lint, that could have contributed to the performance issues because in order for the CPU cooler heatsink to do its job effectively, it must be kept clean of dust and lint, otherwise the CPU overheats and causes sluggish performance, can also destroy the CPU in the process too, can also cause random bluescreens, you should give the CPU heatsink a good clean out and redo the performance tests.
I am currently building my ultimate XP machine which uses a 3.06Ghz HT CPU. Half life seems okay but I still have lots more to test. I am not filming it as my knowledge is somewhat lacking.
I have been checking your Chanel daily for new content here it is now thank you
I luckily skipped over the entire netburst architecture.
Went from an AMD-K6 233 to a Pentium3 1000...
From there I got an AthlonXP 2400, to upgrade to a newer Athlon XP3000... I was disappointed in the performance gains.
I then jumped to an Athlon X2-3800 which I found amazing.
Love the starting background music, Stroll On from Transport Tycoon Deluxe, aptly I played a ton of it on P4 processors :-D
I had a P4 640, was pretty good for the time, hyperthreading didn't do much at the time, but you could run windows XP 64bit. and encoding video was pretty quick.
The "cool" thing about the 65nm Intel Celeron D/Pentium 4/Pentium D is that they support the 64-bit versions of Windows 8.1 and Windows 10, the only Netburst processors ones that do, as they have some lesser-known instruction sets that 64-bit 8.1 and 10 require.
With the 90nm ones, you'd have to make do with the 32-bit versions of those, or instead use the 64-bit version of Windows 7, as along as they support it, as even then, only certain 90nm Intel CPUs support 64-bit operating systems at all.
While it's a bit hard to see at times, I believe your Pentium 4 HT 641 is the SL9KF revision, meaning it runs at a 65 watt TDP rather than the usual 86 watts, and very nearly the best Pentium 4 out there, price/power-to-performance wise. Still in the box new too! You lucked out with that one.
The Pentium 4 HTs starting from 90nm and smaller are still alright CPUs. They still can do tasks well enough even in Windows 8.1. Haven't tested out Windows 10, but I believe others have. Overall it's still usable if one can tolerate the occasional stutter. It's not worth it when there are far better options are there that are even cheaper, run less hot, use less energy, and give much better performance in basically every task. But if one desperately needed a cheap used desktop without regard for its other specs and one finds it still uses at least a 90nm Pentium 4 HT and other options aren't available for whatever reason... it could be worse.
Just stay away from most gaming.
I played a Dota 2 match on a Pentium 4 HT 630 with a GeForce 210... 15 fps avg with drops to 3 fps at 900p is not a pleasant experience. The Pentium 4 actually bottlenecks the 210.
I'm still using a Pentium 4 on Windows 7. Works just fine, you just have to be patient. Even 720p RUclips playback will work, providing you use a dedicated GPU
I've only just been upgraded from a P4-based desktop at work 😬 there must still be tens of thousands of these machines still out there.
Bought a 661, got a 671 instead. It was a great chip but it was about 6 years late.
What I do not understand is how I played Oblivion on a Prescott P4 3 Ghz, Radeon 1950 XT Pro w/2gb ddr 400 and got much better frames than you did in Morrowind. What am I missing ?
Oblivion could probably utilise the Hyper Threading a lot better than Morrowind, which was known to be very heavy on single core IPC and preferred Pentium IIIs and C2Ds to Pentium 4s and Pentium Ds.
ahhhh, now this brings back a fond memory... I remember my best friend had an old PC with a P4 630 HT, it did not game at all so I decided to bring my Radeon HD6650 with me on a sleepover. I got it running and it managed to run Halo CE flawlessly, it felt so much better paired with a dedicated GPU.
Hey man, what watch are you rocking in this vid?
i don't know why but i can hear 009 sound system when he started typing on the notepad
The Pentium 4 Prescott was the CPU is used in my first build. I remember It didn't run that hot with a proper cooler. (I used a Freezer 7 back then.)
Solid video, and solid watch. The CPU is cool and all, but I think that vintage 80s/90s Seiko 5 automatic watch he's wearing is a bit cooler.
I remember when i bought a P4 D 805 because it was the sleeper overclocker before Core 2 Duos took over the market and came down in price. Slapped a Zalman Copper 9500 on it at the time and it ran over the pricepoint for both the CPU and heatsink easily against higher priced P4's at the time
I had a 2.8Ghz P4 I ran for 6-7 years. It WAS hot... but with my machine having a dozen fans (literally), that wasn't a concern. I had 2 optical drives and 6 hard drives in my machine, oh and a pair of nVidia GPUs in SLI.
But it was a faithful CPU that never gave up, even given the abuse I put it through. It just needed a beefy cooler and 2 fans mounted to it.
i happen to have a pentium 4 640 laying around, how does that compare to the 641?
(also is the pentium 4 640 better than the Pentium E5200?)
These reviews are very cool. Thanks... you could use a vaccum cleaner on the motherboard and cpu cooler though :)
Thanks for time the stamp 😊
We need a budget-builds cooking with the pentium 4
Sounds HOT lol
Pentium 4 2.8C was the first computer I ever fully built custom, and it was on a minimum wage income with a 9800 pro graphics card. Stuff was so much simpler back then.
My Pentium 4 motherboard died because of a bad capacitor recently, and it had this same Pentium 4 3.2Ghz Prescott.
Now he is getting to my old processors storage box along side my first pc, AMD-K6 (486).
I do confirm those temperatures, and in a way i loved the high fan noise when it ran almost at 4000 rpm xD
In the summer, so i could game on it, i had to be just on boxers since the head in the room was too much... even at one time i openned the case and placed a fan into it. And no, the CPU fan still ran near 4000 rpm ahahah.
It was a great PC for me, just like the AMD-K6... i grew up with both, and both made me interest in computers. The 486 even once ran Windows 7 Starter Edition, but of cource it took 30min to boot and more 30min to open task manager, ram and cpu at 100%, but it ran :D
The P4 ran Windows XP, Vista, 7 and 8... Multiple Linux distros, with the resting one being Ubuntu Mate 20.04.3 LTS x64 as a backup server. It also ran iDeneb (Mac OS X Leopard), hackintosh as dual boot for a while. But i would always go back to XP, for me the best OS Microsoft ever made.
Now he is getting replaced by a Core2Duo that i have around.
Probably is nostalgy talking, since my father gave me as a christmas present during my high school years, and until getting in university i got an i7 (laptop)... but i liked it and, oh boy was it an upgrade from an 486 xD
I was still using a pentium 4 3.2 ghz as my main computer up until about 2018 or 2019. Went pretty hard.
You must game quite old. A recent free upgrade for me was an i5 4570, 16gb paired with an audigy2 & 9800gtx+ I bought an 870 ssd to replace a sata II platter. Its quite pleasant for older stuff. 1440x900@75
@@oldschooldude8370 I didn’t play a lot of games back then. Maybe just a few point and click adventure games.
I’ve got a more powerful rig now, i7 3770 and an overclocked m4000 so that’s good for the more modern games.
@stockwellengineeringhints3527 I got ya. You don't really game I can tell. I casually play old stuff. Diablo 3 atm.
@@oldschooldude8370 I’m playing a few more games now. Working my way through the far cry series at the moment.
I have a Pentium 4 in my old HP ZD8000, let me tell you, it's apparently not a laptop CPU but a full on desktop CPU to work with the whole "Media Center" laptop.
The thing has 2 fans and a turbo fan. It got hot, a lot. The one good thing was, I was able to play HL2 and DOOM3 while classmates were playing CS1.6.
But I'd wager their laptops might have lasted longer than 2-3 hours per battery, yes mine came with an extra battery which was neat...Till you realized the laptop weighs 13lbs/5.6kg which doesn't include the giant power brick that came with it.
So, hot, heavy, giant. Which is why I haven't attempted to sell the thing, I'm not sure it's worth the postal hassle.
I had two Pentium 4s through the lifetime of the platform - a Northwood 1.8A and a Cedar Mill 631 3GHz. Both were quite good at what they did.
Nice to keep you warm
The date on that box was my 34th birthday. I am grateful that I was not having to run one of these at the time!
I built a pentium 4 3ghz, which was like $400 or so at the time. And the heat was no joke… it was absurdly hot. The stock cooler did not cut it, I ended up putting in an aftermarket thermaltake cooler and that barely got the job done.
You scared me when you dropped the CPU. Luckily the black guard was on. Do you know how hard it is to straighten the pins? I've seen them all completely flattened by not placing it properly and forcing the spring down. Not a pretty sight.
It came with the round fan as Socket 775 was about or had just been announced/released. It was Dual Core so the boards could take the 32 bit 478 or the newer 64 bit 775 architecture. The fan was the best new thing they introduced to keep the running temperature lower. I still find complete units thrown out. I just collect them and if I meet anyone who needs one or help I have some in stock. The only thing I don't have plenty of is monitors. I'm still using a LCD 19" from 2004 for my testing.
Nice video, lol imma a bit late.
Btw nice watch, what is it?
I used to have this CPU,plus 1GB RAM.It was a beast for his time.
I was rocking a Pentium 4 until 2016 or so, paired with an SSD and an AMD R5 270 1Gb it was enough to play League of Legends at the time (and im pretty sure you could still today).