The fact that this $10 laptop performs better than my $400 laptop is a pain Update: I sold it back in 2021 for $350 got an old Alienware thats way faster
Indeed, at least in the UK, the Blu-Ray player is worth more than the £7 for the entire laptop. Personally, I'd have sold the laptop as a multimedia machine, advertising the fact it has a Blu-Ray drive. That would sell for way more than the £7 purchase price.
I love the modular design of this laptop. Frankly I wouldn't mind giving up 1-2 centimeters of thickness on new laptops for the same level of modularity. Also, could you alleviate the OS issues if you were to install an OS with another computer and than install the SSD in to the laptop? Although I suppose you may run into driver issues that way.
I've done it a couple of times. The only problem I've encountered is if the donor system is UEFI, the disk will be GPT, and if the system that needs the SSD is BIOS, then it won't work. You'll have to find another system that only does BIOS, or there might be some formatting tool that can convert it.
Maybe check the device manager in windows 10 to see what devices it doesn't recognize. Search up the part IDs and work from there to find out what component is malfunctioning.
A laptop that can play blu-rays and can do some light gaming and messing around on windows 10 for £7 sounds awesome. i mean i guess at that point it can work as a portable blu-ray player that can do a few extras.
*Oh , you were finished ! ,well allow me to retort* 1. Its one of the 3 brands that had the most issues with their laptops using Vista 2. Vista was released early by Microsoft to capitalize on the new core 2 duo chips i bet 2 years ahead of schedule(just a speculation but ill get back to it). 3. Most tried updating older pentium 4 laptops 4. The claim of upgradeability but only propriety branded ram and then just ditching the upgrading idea cause that wouldn't make them pre *2008 Recession* booku bucks. 5. The launch of the i5 specutivly was late due to the recession. 6. in 2007 *this nightmare OS you call Vista was updated and improved and was eventually renamed to* you favorite Windows 7 lmao 🤣. 7.Dell, Hp and Acer like to cut corners . 8. "This is my Swamp"
@@klokateer4372 "only proprietary branded ram" wdym???? i have this exact same laptop irl, the previous owner handed it to me without any ram, i just ripped some 2gb ddr2 sticks from a hp pavilion dv7 and it works just fine
They were absolute pieces of failure prone trash. Some of the worst quality control I have ever seen. period. My family had 6 of them and 5 had critical hardware failures in a year or less. 2 power input circuit failures (would run from battery but couldn't charge or run just from being plugged it), a audio output failure that caused all audio to be shifted down in frequency (probably a clock multiplier failed), multiple failed hard drives, a failed optical drive, two dead displays, and other minor issues like the custom branded mice they shipped with having the left mouse button break with normal use.. And for the record, All Acer did for a failed hard drive was reimage it and send it back claiming it just had files in windows corrupted and just needed a fresh install. You could hear the drive clicking from across the room. Files were corrupted because of head crashes. By the time they finished doing noting useful and sent the machine back the one year warranty was expired. Those were $2000 laptops.
@@ApusApus Me, mom, dad, sister, brother, and an extra that was located after a year due to UPS not being able to locate the first one but then the insurance had paid out so the one that was located after a year they told us to just keep. My mom thought they would be great laptops (spec wise for the time on paper they were great) so she splurged on everybody that year.
A friend of mine had this model, and I always thought the light bar design was really cool, in how it's a blue line going from where the power adapter is plugged in, into the power button, and then the status LEDs are a continuation of that same design line.
The Core 2 Duo T9400 I installed in my Grandmother's old laptop was far faster than the A8 4555M in my old laptop, and the original (faulty) Pentium T4200 wasn't much slower. So it's pretty much typical for at least the later Core 2 Duo to outperform AMD's A10 series. The A10 were only a slight upgrade from the A8, and not really worth the extra cost.
And of course, even entry level Core 2 Duo's (like, for example, the T5200) would perform on par with really budget level AMD CPU's, like for example, the E2-1800. Personally anything that is worse than an i3 is a waste of time, and the AMD E series (E1s and E2s) are an even more collosal waste of time.
Very Nice. I used to have a similar model to this. Can't remember the exact model but it only had a DVD drive and some low end NVidia GPU. I pulled it out of the back of a computer repair shop that was being closed down along with another 2 laptops. Apparently they where unrepairable but I managed to get all 3 of them working with windows 10 (and this would have been around 2015 so was the original version) installed on them, but after around 6 months they just wouldn't power on anymore. When I opened them up it seemed like they had been water damaged in the past. But anyway they let me and my brother do our school work for a little while, and the acer was a very nice laptop at the time.
Wow, this is wild to see. My very first proper pc was the non gaming version of this I got brand new in 2008, that thing served me well for many years (on vista mind you) and it's near to see someone messing with one again, a right treat :D
not gonna lie, but the price and the beauty of this laptop is definetly worth it, even though you got into some dodgy problems from the start but still, loved the video and also much love from Tunisia! :)
This is my dream laptop. I always wanted this model back in the day and I still do. The best thing is the "scroll pad" between the click buttons, they don't make those anymore.
I always love seeing older laptops like these. I remember trying to guess the GPU over on Twitter a couple months ago, pretty sure I guessed HD 4670, not too far off though.
I used to own this laptop wayyy back in 2015. I remember when I bought it for 100$ from a second-hand store in my country. It was good as it lasted, until it stopped working after a month. Very nice video!
I bought this Acer 5920G new in 2007 with a T7500 CPU and the GeForce 8600M GT, 250GB HDD and 2GB of RAM and: VISTA. I paid like 1300 Euros and upgraded it to T7700 and 4GB of RAM. I still have it and still the original battery works well. Back then it was a hell of a machine.
With BIOS update, you con installup to Intel T9300 CPU. (Also T8300 I think.) As long as the FSB of the CPU is 800MHz, and not 1033MHz.) The T8000 and T9000 were a later generation on smaller fabrication. Meant they ran cooler and used less power. There's also a BIOS modder made a BIOS that would allow the 5920G to run the Nvidia 9600M GT. Very easy to find the modded BIOS.
I'm mad jealous of y'all living in countries with decent used markets. Degenerates here in my country wouldn't sell that same laptop for less than 200 dollars.
My automatic suspicion would have been the RAM. Would probably do well as an emulation laptop. Use Shutup10 or something similar and it may end up doing better.
They do, but if you have one with an intel GMA Graphics, you're screwed. Well that is my experience with my friend's older dell laptop. The thing sucked at even running minecraft, the best game I got running on it is og release of half life.
I keep looking at the benchmarks and I'm utterly blown away. I mean yeah they're old games, but they are running well. You can't get a PS3 or Xbox 360 for that price. What a good value.
I had the emachines version of this, known as the E510. It was the laptop I first installed Linux on because Vista Home Basic CHUGGED on the Celeron and 2GB of RAM. Good machine and was built alright too.
I'm not surprised that Vista performed horribly on a crappy Celeron and 2GB DDR2! An upgrade to 4GB DDR2, as well as getting the Celeron swapped for a Core 2 Duo, would have turned it from an XP only machine to a semi-competent Windows 7 machine.
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Nice to see another "family" laptop rescued :) I score about every week machines like that at the flea market, for less than 5€ each (most of the time I buy like 3-4 at once to get them for 2-3€ the unit). I'm always astonished by the profusion of these XP/Vista/early 7 machines with Pentium M, Pentium Dual Core and other Core 2 Duo and AMD equivalent (less frequently though) . Unfortunately the "good ones" (hence with a good CPU & GPU) don't work most of the time (or are arctifacting) because of their cursed Nvidia chips... though for sake of honesty ATI cards have problems too but I encoutered less problematic PCs equiped with them.
When you were saying MXM graphics, I didn't know you were referring to ANCIENT MXM graphics. Truthfully, laptops that are MXM 3.0 Type B (2013 and onward) can have up to an RTX 2060 stuffed in there, which isn't bad for gaming at all.
Well... that really depends on the OEM you're working with and how nice the BIOS plays with certain cards. I had a M6800 for the longest time and the best anybody could get it up to the last time I checked was a 1070 and that was with some next level BIOS hacking and other shenanigans. ThinkPads are also really touchy if you don't have an official Lenovo BIOS on the card. I heard people got a fair amount of cards to work on older Elitebooks, but then they start talking about taking a Dremel to the heatsink to make the VRAM fit and that's where it kind of gets ridiculous unless you're into machining too. That's not even counting the cards that are so power hungry that they need an extra adapter that is probably only in one specific Clevo model that you don't have because those are worth a pretty penny even secondhand and missing stuff. Then there's the trouble of flashing another BIOS where you either have another laptop floating around to do it, buy a $400+ PCIe adapter from Eurocom, buy some cheap PCIe adapter from Taobao and wait two to three months, or hail mary it and hope you don't do anything stupid to brick it. Then there's the price. A 980m is going to get you 1050 Ti-esque performance for about $300 and it's been floating around that number for a few years. A RTX 3060 just from a cursory eBay search seems to go for four times that. Granted MXM cards haven't been hit all that much pricewise from the GPU shortage, but paying ~$800 for a card vs ~$1400 for a cut down version that has really poor resale value was kind of a no brainer years ago and still is now even in this god-awful market. Don't get me wrong, it's fun as fuck to say you literally built your laptop (as untrue as it is) and the initial rush of installing the components and getting some extra OOMPH out of decent i7's is great, but it's a very expensive and time consuming hobby (taking all those screws out and dismantling a lappy takes a lot more time and care than slapping in a card and a few power connectors) if you don't want to make a fool of yourself. Plus, MXM went the way of SLI outside of Clevo. Kind of sad, but I can totally get it.
@@EbonySaints You needed to mod your M6800 BIOS to get other graphics cards working in it? I've got an M4800, and while my chinese 1050 Type A doesn't work because of the wrong display-out type for the built in LCD, it otherwise does work and is more or less 'detected' during POST (I have LVDS, it needed eDP, so nothing is displayed and the BIOS freezes after POST but the BIOS does indeed detect that a card is installed with the right amount of VRAM, etc). I always thought Dell was good with leaving things alone for people to mess with, especially around Haswell era. But, maybe I'm wrong. Do you remember the BIOS mod you needed, and if so can you point me to it? Perhaps this is what I need to get the damn thing working. I bought it under the pretense that it would indeed work, but I was NOT aware of the whole LVDS/eDP thing, if that even is the problem. At this point I just want to try anything I can, since I already dropped $175 on the MXM Type A 1050 with no one else willing to buy it off of me.
Bsel mod for that cpu might be game changer. I did the mod for different laptop with pentiumdualcore and it went nicely higher clockspeed from 1.6 to 2.4 ghz
I remember when i always heavy overclock my lg laptop with pentium t series and ATI radeon x1200, even the temp is max at 100c, soo i can play half life 2 at 50 fps
I remember getting hands-on with a pre-production model of these just before they released and I remember being totally impressed by the whole thing. Also, the MXM graphics card was an awesome addition
Hello There, a decent video with fantastic ocmmentary throughout and the fact that it has a removable/ upgradeable Graphics card is still something that's quite rare on Laptops even these days, thank you for sharing your experiment, it's much appreciated. It seemed to be a good value laptop throughout Cheers Peter :) p.s. you should definitely do a video where you upgrade the RAM and possibly the Graphics Card and maybe the CPU and see how it performs in comparison.
in some low spec few years old Celeron laptops actually Windows 10 is working better than for example Ubuntu, so it's not always Linux is a better choice
I used to have one of these, great laptop for it's time, cost me about £500 new I think. It met its end when the GPU cooked itself and started causing artifacting... A replacement GPU was prohibitively expensive at the time. I actually pulled the CPU out of it and put it in to a similar model with a Celeron and onboard graphics. Carried on using that for a couple of years too, albeit without the gaming grunt of the GPU.
mxm cards are still ridiculously expensive on the 2nd hand market sadly, and the bioses of most laptops don't tend to be compatible with gpu upgrades either, which is a real shame
My roommate had got an old laptop for $16 USD yesterday (same day this video was posted). He is having me set it up for him. It is a dell inspiron 9300. It had winxp passwords to bypass and was part of a domain for some company. I'll setup some emulation gaming on it.
After hearing "C2D Mobile" I expected for everything to be running like garbage, but it seems it's doing just fine! Well the GPU probably carried the whole system. Edit: Can you upgrade the processor to something a little better?
I found the same model laptop some time ago.It had a couple of extra graphics cards with it. The keyboard is nice to use. I like that it’s a full multimedia setup with FireWire ports etc. I had no problem installing windows 7 onto it.
i know this is an old laptop but when you clean that laptop,seeing that gpu can be swapped,this laptop actually awesome and better than most modern laptop, it's upgradeable
I grew up with a very similar laptop, an Aspire 5720 with a 2.2GHz Core 2 Duo without dedicated graphics and Windows Vista. It served us well from 2006 to 2017 and was the laptop I learned how to upgrade computers on. Holds a special place in my heart.
it's kinda cool seeing how this laptop seems to perform better than mine on some older tittles, despite having less CPU power and only supporting up to directX10... the old games do were optimized to run on the hardware of the time, it seems (I have an i3 4005U btw, with no dedicated GPU, which might be the why)
That laptop needs a thermal pad or copper shim on the GPU or else it will make poor to no contact at all with the heatsink and cause it to shut off. In fact, the problems that you had installing windows made me think of that immediately. I recommend you to check if the thermal paste is completely squished up when you remove the GPU from the heatsink because if it's not, you need a 0.5mm cooper shim. Check the GPU temperature sensor, if it has one
The problem with this laptop is not the GPU, you should change some capacitors behind the ram slot. I had a 5920 with an intel GMA X3100 between 2008 and 2010, and even though I had the onboard crap graphics, I had fun with a lot of classic games. This machine has a subwoofer, which makes the sound quality a little better than regular laptops. This machine was designed under license from BMW, it is inspired by the design of BMW cars.
Theres something pretty cool looking about these older laptops. Out of interest, windows is a bloated mess, with linux gaming inproving, is it possible to use some flavour of Linux to get more out of an old laptop specifically for gaming?
that's a good question, actually. the answer is pretty complicated, but it boils down to: _it depends._ if the thing has up-to-date drivers (amdgpu), then it might game better than windows. but if you need to use wine in order to game, it'll run worse than windows, since the cpu has to both translate windows calls into linux calls, and have to use amdgpu at the same time.
I couldn't get older nvidia proprietary drivers to work on the latest nvidia kernel, also, the nouveau drivers are completely unusable on the Nvidia 8 series GPUs (mine has the 8600m GT) as the performance is terrible and causes the system to lock up after a few minutes. Windows 10 works much better in my experience, everything works out of the box (except for maybe SD card reader drivers) and you can disable a lot of the background crap. Maybe take a look at Windows 10 Enterprise IoT 2021 which just came out, it has no bloatware on it and will be supported until 2031 (6 years longer than normal Windows 10). Although you will probably have to use suspicious methods to get a license for it.
Ah yes, the 5920G. One of the swiss knives Acer made. Mine was a real powerhouse after replacing the dead 8600M GT it had with a Radeon HD4650 1GB. I need to restore it someday as I feel sad for leaving it "rot" away with a lot of other classics I have like the dv7-1000 and 3000, Aspire 5720 and 7720, two dv9000s - one AMD, one Intel (both with Geforce 8000 series) as well as a few more others (including a rare Aspire 6920 w/ Full HD screen.)
i have a similar one, but a low end version it looks almost the same but haves a Turion 64 MK-38 and 4GB DDR2 (upgraded from the original 1GB) and a chipset integrated GeForce 7100M
I had this exact laptop as a family laptop. It was top notch at the time. Replaced the drive with a WD black 500GB drive and added in 2GB RAM in 2013. Came with Windows Vista and I upgraded to Win7. Played the hell outta my very small steam library and it got me into Pc gaming. Even managed DayZ on minimum 😅
I made a bad review of the Acer Aspire 8930g 18 inch laptop from the time. It was a bad review as I didn’t have many games at the time, and not even the correct wattage for the AC adapter. Now that I have the correct 130w charger, along with Doom 3 and other x86 titles, this laptop is a fucking beast at retro games. And yes, the 130w charger just arrived today. Acer’s Aspire Arcade software is great for movies and shit, and I’m running Windows 7 Home Premium with a high capacity Intel Optane SATA SSD.
Supply and demand...Many would not consider using a device well past it's "Service life". Though this one looks to be a nice find. I see a lot of old gems on ebay going for peanuts with one of more things needing attention.
Currently in the finds for a older laptop, windows xp/7 era, mainly for software development and testing out some things. What's some good recommendations?
Nicely done. I always enjoy reviews of Lack luster PC parts that are neither here nor there. Finding utility for these things is a challenge that I think you resolve masterfully. Thanks for another video.
this is my first laptop that i buy for gaming in 2007.. but my spec is difference its t7300 with 8600m gt.. you can change the graphic card.. im gaming using this lap before for gaming and im satisfied with the performance..
Tbh most laptops we consider slow would work amazing if their shitty HDDs were replaced with SSDs. Time and time again it HDDs are the point of failure and people throw whole laptops out because of em 😔😔
Love the the well aged Sims music during the clean up 😄 That Jingle All The Way thing near the end is bonkers 😅😂🤣 Cracking video as always. Nice one butt 👍
Hey, man! 10$ for such a laptop is actually good! I've recently bought a laptop on VIA S3 1.2 GHz processor for 15$... Used laptop prices in Russia are a total shitshow :(
Got myself this exact model but with black case, and amd turion instead of c2d , and it had an option to use processor integrated graphic card with the separate one in crossfire. But i must sadly admit it almost never worked.
Sorry but why would you put the gpu into the oven? If you have a gpu issue it's an internal issue with the GPU silicon. The ONLY way to fix that is to replace the chip. By putting it in the oven you're temporarily repairing the chip with the heating process. Also, by putting it in the oven at all, you've probably just degraded the chip so if it didn't have an issue before, you probably will now. This is constructive criticism, not slating you in any way. You should probably watch Louis Rossmann's video on GPU "reflowing". My experience: I'm a micro soldering technician and teach board repair
I’m already very aware of the issues of heat gun/oven GPU revivals. But I’m very cheap laptops like this I’ve seen them go on for even years before issues strike again and is far cheaper and cost appropriate than a full GPU repair or replacement.
@@BudgetBuildsOfficial i understand *why* you did it and yeah it's probably not going to make much sense to replace it, but it might be a good idea to at least make people aware before it causes people to throw their gpu in the oven. Like I said I don't want to come across as a jackass or tell you how to run your channel at all, but as a fellow tuber criticism is important. I still love the videos either way
oven is a really bad choice, better will be heating using hot air station or take the chip from card and put on him new solder balls and install again using BGA rework station, but overall chip probably needs to be replaced
I have a similar viao laptop from 2008. The vgn-fw11s. Its great I love it, it is esthetically amazing and has about the same specs as that asus : core 2 duo, 4g ddr2 ram and an ATI mobility radeon HD 3470 + ssd. I played gta 4 and cod WaW on lowest settings . They run fine but look not great. I love these old and yet mighty machines who don't give up the fight in gaming 🙂 Love your work man, especially old laptops. Keep it up!
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Tonight:
I drive a Vauxhall Agura through an office...
Richard is hunted by a Mexican mafia boss
And James runs Crysis
And I drive a car through los santos while evading taxes!
you made my day
@@white_mage :)
Warning: Show's budget does not exceed 23 yen.
i read this like jeremy would say it XD
The fact that this $10 laptop performs better than my $400 laptop is a pain
Update: I sold it back in 2021 for $350 got an old Alienware thats way faster
One word....
SSD
how?
@@MR_FIAT simple. Bad cpu and ram and slow hdd plus a terrible display
What the hell is your laptop??
@@sebaschan-uwu idk the name. that's how bad it is that i even forgot it
Able to purchase a $10 Blu-ray player alone is rather surprising to me!
Indeed, at least in the UK, the Blu-Ray player is worth more than the £7 for the entire laptop. Personally, I'd have sold the laptop as a multimedia machine, advertising the fact it has a Blu-Ray drive. That would sell for way more than the £7 purchase price.
It’s surprising to be able to buy anything at that price point
Carboot sales are mostly full of junk but you do occasionally get steals. I got an NES with Mario, Duck hunt and the 2 guns for £5
@@BRUH2004FTW to the person who was selling it, it was essentially a brick of useless plastic
@@nepdisc3722 the person selling it was a goofy ahh dude
It's always fascinating to see old ass/cheap ass stuff in action, and your videos scratch that exact itch of mine. Thanks for starting to post again!
Or knowing that "cheap stuff" was at one time was at a price many of us were unwilling to pay.
"You're just gonna benchmark Fable aren't you" turned out to be pretty accurate. Love your stuff Hamish!
the real option was "all of the above"
I love the modular design of this laptop. Frankly I wouldn't mind giving up 1-2 centimeters of thickness on new laptops for the same level of modularity.
Also, could you alleviate the OS issues if you were to install an OS with another computer and than install the SSD in to the laptop? Although I suppose you may run into driver issues that way.
I've done it a couple of times. The only problem I've encountered is if the donor system is UEFI, the disk will be GPT, and if the system that needs the SSD is BIOS, then it won't work. You'll have to find another system that only does BIOS, or there might be some formatting tool that can convert it.
I actually tested this. Only Windows 2000 worked like this. But would black screen after login.
@@BudgetBuildsOfficial a shame that the issue couldn't be bypassed. Thanks for testing it though.
Maybe check the device manager in windows 10 to see what devices it doesn't recognize. Search up the part IDs and work from there to find out what component is malfunctioning.
@@adamhooper2476 OP, check this comment and try this
This is a certified hood classic
Agreed, I get a dopamine rush everytime I get budget's notification
A laptop that can play blu-rays and can do some light gaming and messing around on windows 10 for £7 sounds awesome. i mean i guess at that point it can work as a portable blu-ray player that can do a few extras.
Makes sense why the PC bluescreened, it has a Vista sticker
*Oh , you were finished ! ,well allow me to retort*
1. Its one of the 3 brands that had the most issues with their laptops using Vista
2. Vista was released early by Microsoft to capitalize on the new core 2 duo chips i bet 2 years ahead of schedule(just a speculation but ill get back to it).
3. Most tried updating older pentium 4 laptops
4. The claim of upgradeability but only propriety branded ram and then just ditching the upgrading idea cause that wouldn't make them pre *2008 Recession* booku bucks.
5. The launch of the i5 specutivly was late due to the recession.
6. in 2007 *this nightmare OS you call Vista was updated and improved and was eventually renamed to* you favorite Windows 7 lmao 🤣.
7.Dell, Hp and Acer like to cut corners .
8. "This is my Swamp"
@@klokateer4372 damn i thought you have take it the joke seriously until i saw that this it was your swamp.
@@klokateer4372 "only proprietary branded ram" wdym???? i have this exact same laptop irl, the previous owner handed it to me without any ram, i just ripped some 2gb ddr2 sticks from a hp pavilion dv7 and it works just fine
Meanwhile Vista on my inspiron 700m is rock solid. Insane.
This looks exactly the same as my sister's old laptop (although that computer had worse specs).
Kinda reminds me of this Ferrari-branded laptop that Acer used to make, there's something oddly charming about the thicc laptops from a few years ago.
Didn't LGR review a Ferrari Acer laptop?
@@ChaseMC215 yeah he did.
They were absolute pieces of failure prone trash. Some of the worst quality control I have ever seen. period. My family had 6 of them and 5 had critical hardware failures in a year or less. 2 power input circuit failures (would run from battery but couldn't charge or run just from being plugged it), a audio output failure that caused all audio to be shifted down in frequency (probably a clock multiplier failed), multiple failed hard drives, a failed optical drive, two dead displays, and other minor issues like the custom branded mice they shipped with having the left mouse button break with normal use..
And for the record, All Acer did for a failed hard drive was reimage it and send it back claiming it just had files in windows corrupted and just needed a fresh install. You could hear the drive clicking from across the room. Files were corrupted because of head crashes. By the time they finished doing noting useful and sent the machine back the one year warranty was expired.
Those were $2000 laptops.
@@hackerx7329 ...why did your family have 6 of them in the first place?
@@ApusApus Me, mom, dad, sister, brother, and an extra that was located after a year due to UPS not being able to locate the first one but then the insurance had paid out so the one that was located after a year they told us to just keep. My mom thought they would be great laptops (spec wise for the time on paper they were great) so she splurged on everybody that year.
A friend of mine had this model, and I always thought the light bar design was really cool, in how it's a blue line going from where the power adapter is plugged in, into the power button, and then the status LEDs are a continuation of that same design line.
old pc desings were better
That laptop looks so clean for $10 😯
The Core 2 Duo T9400 I installed in my Grandmother's old laptop was far faster than the A8 4555M in my old laptop, and the original (faulty) Pentium T4200 wasn't much slower. So it's pretty much typical for at least the later Core 2 Duo to outperform AMD's A10 series. The A10 were only a slight upgrade from the A8, and not really worth the extra cost.
And of course, even entry level Core 2 Duo's (like, for example, the T5200) would perform on par with really budget level AMD CPU's, like for example, the E2-1800. Personally anything that is worse than an i3 is a waste of time, and the AMD E series (E1s and E2s) are an even more collosal waste of time.
Frequent budget build uploads LETS GOOO
Very Nice. I used to have a similar model to this. Can't remember the exact model but it only had a DVD drive and some low end NVidia GPU. I pulled it out of the back of a computer repair shop that was being closed down along with another 2 laptops. Apparently they where unrepairable but I managed to get all 3 of them working with windows 10 (and this would have been around 2015 so was the original version) installed on them, but after around 6 months they just wouldn't power on anymore. When I opened them up it seemed like they had been water damaged in the past. But anyway they let me and my brother do our school work for a little while, and the acer was a very nice laptop at the time.
There's something about MXM cards that just makes me love them, I have a Clevo P370EM that runs a 980m 8gb variant
Very nice. I have the 5920 laptop. The MXM II slot sent us wild trying to get an upgrade.
Wow, this is wild to see. My very first proper pc was the non gaming version of this I got brand new in 2008, that thing served me well for many years (on vista mind you) and it's near to see someone messing with one again, a right treat :D
not gonna lie, but the price and the beauty of this laptop is definetly worth it, even though you got into some dodgy problems from the start but still, loved the video and also much love from Tunisia! :)
This is my dream laptop. I always wanted this model back in the day and I still do. The best thing is the "scroll pad" between the click buttons, they don't make those anymore.
I always love seeing older laptops like these. I remember trying to guess the GPU over on Twitter a couple months ago, pretty sure I guessed HD 4670, not too far off though.
That was my first laptop that I'd ever bought and owned haha, except mine ran vista out the box. I loved that thing and lasted years.
I used to own this laptop wayyy back in 2015. I remember when I bought it for 100$ from a second-hand store in my country. It was good as it lasted, until it stopped working after a month.
Very nice video!
I bought this Acer 5920G new in 2007 with a T7500 CPU and the GeForce 8600M GT, 250GB HDD and 2GB of RAM and: VISTA. I paid like 1300 Euros and upgraded it to T7700 and 4GB of RAM. I still have it and still the original battery works well. Back then it was a hell of a machine.
With BIOS update, you con installup to Intel T9300 CPU. (Also T8300 I think.) As long as the FSB of the CPU is 800MHz, and not 1033MHz.) The T8000 and T9000 were a later generation on smaller fabrication. Meant they ran cooler and used less power.
There's also a BIOS modder made a BIOS that would allow the 5920G to run the Nvidia 9600M GT. Very easy to find the modded BIOS.
Imagine playing gta online and getting wrecked by the guy using a bootfair laptop lmao
I'm mad jealous of y'all living in countries with decent used markets. Degenerates here in my country wouldn't sell that same laptop for less than 200 dollars.
Same in Pakistan
Can relate. Here in Brazil if it isn't ridiculously overpriced, then it's either broken or a scam.
Yep, same here in Serbia. Better get a new cheap ryzen 3, athlon laptop for 300e. Used market or any market for that matter is a huge ripoff here.
My automatic suspicion would have been the RAM. Would probably do well as an emulation laptop.
Use Shutup10 or something similar and it may end up doing better.
What does that mean if you don’t mind me asking?
@@JM00237 Regarding Shutup10 or an Emulation laptop or what? need specifics lol
@@DigitalIP what’s an emulation laptop?
@@JM00237 Emulation Laptop meaning using it for emulator gaming such as PS1/PS2/GBA/Gamecube etc so on
@@DigitalIP oh ok thanks man
Great video! These old Core 2 Duo laptops still hold up surprisingly well given their age.
And if you’re lucky you could stick on windows 10 and such if you got a decent core 2 duo like a 6000s series or something
They do, but if you have one with an intel GMA Graphics, you're screwed. Well that is my experience with my friend's older dell laptop. The thing sucked at even running minecraft, the best game I got running on it is og release of half life.
and this one can even get over 30fps in GTA 5... if you use the 240p resolution with the lowest possible settings, and no shadows. Lol!
I keep looking at the benchmarks and I'm utterly blown away. I mean yeah they're old games, but they are running well. You can't get a PS3 or Xbox 360 for that price. What a good value.
You can even play GTA 5 at 240p with the ultra low settings, and no shadows, but it'll work and be playable!
I had the emachines version of this, known as the E510. It was the laptop I first installed Linux on because Vista Home Basic CHUGGED on the Celeron and 2GB of RAM. Good machine and was built alright too.
I'm not surprised that Vista performed horribly on a crappy Celeron and 2GB DDR2! An upgrade to 4GB DDR2, as well as getting the Celeron swapped for a Core 2 Duo, would have turned it from an XP only machine to a semi-competent Windows 7 machine.
This channel is perfect for me. I hate throwing money at the latest and greatest yet love tech stuff. My entire gamming rig today is made from the best of the best...That 5 years ago offered. I enjoy fixing broken phones and laptops so I can check them out and use them for a while before flipping them for my next winter time project. When all goes well there is never buyers remorse or that "I should have waited" feeling. Thank you Budget-Builds for showing up on my recommended videos. Subscribed!!!
4:03 budget has unread messages from me :weary:
I have an addiction to revitalizing thrift store PCs! My emulation laptop costed me like $13!
Budget builds uploads 4 times this month? A BLESSING FROM THE LORD
Nice to see another "family" laptop rescued :) I score about every week machines like that at the flea market, for less than 5€ each (most of the time I buy like 3-4 at once to get them for 2-3€ the unit).
I'm always astonished by the profusion of these XP/Vista/early 7 machines with Pentium M, Pentium Dual Core and other Core 2 Duo and AMD equivalent (less frequently though) . Unfortunately the "good ones" (hence with a good CPU & GPU) don't work most of the time (or are arctifacting) because of their cursed Nvidia chips... though for sake of honesty ATI cards have problems too but I encoutered less problematic PCs equiped with them.
When you were saying MXM graphics, I didn't know you were referring to ANCIENT MXM graphics. Truthfully, laptops that are MXM 3.0 Type B (2013 and onward) can have up to an RTX 2060 stuffed in there, which isn't bad for gaming at all.
Well... that really depends on the OEM you're working with and how nice the BIOS plays with certain cards. I had a M6800 for the longest time and the best anybody could get it up to the last time I checked was a 1070 and that was with some next level BIOS hacking and other shenanigans. ThinkPads are also really touchy if you don't have an official Lenovo BIOS on the card. I heard people got a fair amount of cards to work on older Elitebooks, but then they start talking about taking a Dremel to the heatsink to make the VRAM fit and that's where it kind of gets ridiculous unless you're into machining too. That's not even counting the cards that are so power hungry that they need an extra adapter that is probably only in one specific Clevo model that you don't have because those are worth a pretty penny even secondhand and missing stuff.
Then there's the trouble of flashing another BIOS where you either have another laptop floating around to do it, buy a $400+ PCIe adapter from Eurocom, buy some cheap PCIe adapter from Taobao and wait two to three months, or hail mary it and hope you don't do anything stupid to brick it.
Then there's the price. A 980m is going to get you 1050 Ti-esque performance for about $300 and it's been floating around that number for a few years. A RTX 3060 just from a cursory eBay search seems to go for four times that. Granted MXM cards haven't been hit all that much pricewise from the GPU shortage, but paying ~$800 for a card vs ~$1400 for a cut down version that has really poor resale value was kind of a no brainer years ago and still is now even in this god-awful market.
Don't get me wrong, it's fun as fuck to say you literally built your laptop (as untrue as it is) and the initial rush of installing the components and getting some extra OOMPH out of decent i7's is great, but it's a very expensive and time consuming hobby (taking all those screws out and dismantling a lappy takes a lot more time and care than slapping in a card and a few power connectors) if you don't want to make a fool of yourself.
Plus, MXM went the way of SLI outside of Clevo. Kind of sad, but I can totally get it.
@@EbonySaints You needed to mod your M6800 BIOS to get other graphics cards working in it? I've got an M4800, and while my chinese 1050 Type A doesn't work because of the wrong display-out type for the built in LCD, it otherwise does work and is more or less 'detected' during POST (I have LVDS, it needed eDP, so nothing is displayed and the BIOS freezes after POST but the BIOS does indeed detect that a card is installed with the right amount of VRAM, etc). I always thought Dell was good with leaving things alone for people to mess with, especially around Haswell era. But, maybe I'm wrong.
Do you remember the BIOS mod you needed, and if so can you point me to it? Perhaps this is what I need to get the damn thing working. I bought it under the pretense that it would indeed work, but I was NOT aware of the whole LVDS/eDP thing, if that even is the problem. At this point I just want to try anything I can, since I already dropped $175 on the MXM Type A 1050 with no one else willing to buy it off of me.
Bsel mod for that cpu might be game changer. I did the mod for different laptop with pentiumdualcore and it went nicely higher clockspeed from 1.6 to 2.4 ghz
+ overclocking the gpu could save more fps
I remember when i always heavy overclock my lg laptop with pentium t series and ATI radeon x1200, even the temp is max at 100c, soo i can play half life 2 at 50 fps
I remember getting hands-on with a pre-production model of these just before they released and I remember being totally impressed by the whole thing. Also, the MXM graphics card was an awesome addition
Hello There, a decent video with fantastic ocmmentary throughout and the fact that it has a removable/ upgradeable Graphics card is still something that's quite rare on Laptops even these days, thank you for sharing your experiment, it's much appreciated. It seemed to be a good value laptop throughout Cheers Peter :) p.s. you should definitely do a video where you upgrade the RAM and possibly the Graphics Card and maybe the CPU and see how it performs in comparison.
Yeap,I up to that !!!!
Upgrade to the MAX !!!!
This may sound weird coming from a guy that has a $500 laptop with beastly specs but….
I need that acer laptop as a backup
Laptops like these are perfect Linux machines. Especially since Linux and GNU/Linux systems are more forgiving when it comes to hardware requirements.
Or if you want a "kinda like windows but not exactly experience" install chrome os.
in some low spec few years old Celeron laptops actually Windows 10 is working better than for example Ubuntu, so it's not always Linux is a better choice
I am loving the new content, please keep it up!!!
I used to have one of these, great laptop for it's time, cost me about £500 new I think. It met its end when the GPU cooked itself and started causing artifacting... A replacement GPU was prohibitively expensive at the time. I actually pulled the CPU out of it and put it in to a similar model with a Celeron and onboard graphics. Carried on using that for a couple of years too, albeit without the gaming grunt of the GPU.
mxm cards are still ridiculously expensive on the 2nd hand market sadly, and the bioses of most laptops don't tend to be compatible with gpu upgrades either, which is a real shame
My roommate had got an old laptop for $16 USD yesterday (same day this video was posted). He is having me set it up for him. It is a dell inspiron 9300. It had winxp passwords to bypass and was part of a domain for some company. I'll setup some emulation gaming on it.
After hearing "C2D Mobile" I expected for everything to be running like garbage, but it seems it's doing just fine! Well the GPU probably carried the whole system.
Edit: Can you upgrade the processor to something a little better?
Me with my Dell Latitude D620
I found the same model laptop some time ago.It had a couple of extra graphics cards with it. The keyboard is nice to use. I like that it’s a full multimedia setup with FireWire ports etc. I had no problem installing windows 7 onto it.
I feel extremely bad when this 10 dollars laptop is better then my current laptop 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
I had this laptop for years. Gave it to my brother and it still works.
The fact this laptop runs GTA5 better than my old PC fascinates and infuriates me.
i know this is an old laptop but when you clean that laptop,seeing that gpu can be swapped,this laptop actually awesome and better than most modern laptop, it's upgradeable
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I grew up with a very similar laptop, an Aspire 5720 with a 2.2GHz Core 2 Duo without dedicated graphics and Windows Vista. It served us well from 2006 to 2017 and was the laptop I learned how to upgrade computers on. Holds a special place in my heart.
well I had the same issue with one my systems, after a week of trying stuff with it, I found out that my RAM was damaged.
I had almost the exact same laptop up until a few weeks ago when I finally gave it away, but up until that point that used to be my daily driver.
it's kinda cool seeing how this laptop seems to perform better than mine on some older tittles, despite having less CPU power and only supporting up to directX10... the old games do were optimized to run on the hardware of the time, it seems (I have an i3 4005U btw, with no dedicated GPU, which might be the why)
That laptop needs a thermal pad or copper shim on the GPU or else it will make poor to no contact at all with the heatsink and cause it to shut off. In fact, the problems that you had installing windows made me think of that immediately. I recommend you to check if the thermal paste is completely squished up when you remove the GPU from the heatsink because if it's not, you need a 0.5mm cooper shim. Check the GPU temperature sensor, if it has one
I doubt this is the reason, because he gamed heavily in Win 10 without shutdown.
The problem with this laptop is not the GPU, you should change some capacitors behind the ram slot.
I had a 5920 with an intel GMA X3100 between 2008 and 2010, and even though I had the onboard crap graphics, I had fun with a lot of classic games. This machine has a subwoofer, which makes the sound quality a little better than regular laptops. This machine was designed under license from BMW, it is inspired by the design of BMW cars.
Theres something pretty cool looking about these older laptops.
Out of interest, windows is a bloated mess, with linux gaming inproving, is it possible to use some flavour of Linux to get more out of an old laptop specifically for gaming?
I talk about this at the end of the video 😀
@@BudgetBuildsOfficial went back and listened again...... I missed that passing comment lol.
that's a good question, actually. the answer is pretty complicated, but it boils down to: _it depends._ if the thing has up-to-date drivers (amdgpu), then it might game better than windows. but if you need to use wine in order to game, it'll run worse than windows, since the cpu has to both translate windows calls into linux calls, and have to use amdgpu at the same time.
I couldn't get older nvidia proprietary drivers to work on the latest nvidia kernel, also, the nouveau drivers are completely unusable on the Nvidia 8 series GPUs (mine has the 8600m GT) as the performance is terrible and causes the system to lock up after a few minutes. Windows 10 works much better in my experience, everything works out of the box (except for maybe SD card reader drivers) and you can disable a lot of the background crap. Maybe take a look at Windows 10 Enterprise IoT 2021 which just came out, it has no bloatware on it and will be supported until 2031 (6 years longer than normal Windows 10). Although you will probably have to use suspicious methods to get a license for it.
This laptop looks great
Ah yes, the 5920G. One of the swiss knives Acer made. Mine was a real powerhouse after replacing the dead 8600M GT it had with a Radeon HD4650 1GB.
I need to restore it someday as I feel sad for leaving it "rot" away with a lot of other classics I have like the dv7-1000 and 3000, Aspire 5720 and 7720, two dv9000s - one AMD, one Intel (both with Geforce 8000 series) as well as a few more others (including a rare Aspire 6920 w/ Full HD screen.)
i have a similar one, but a low end version
it looks almost the same but haves a Turion 64 MK-38 and 4GB DDR2 (upgraded from the original 1GB)
and a chipset integrated GeForce 7100M
I had this exact laptop as a family laptop. It was top notch at the time. Replaced the drive with a WD black 500GB drive and added in 2GB RAM in 2013. Came with Windows Vista and I upgraded to Win7. Played the hell outta my very small steam library and it got me into Pc gaming. Even managed DayZ on minimum 😅
I made a bad review of the Acer Aspire 8930g 18 inch laptop from the time. It was a bad review as I didn’t have many games at the time, and not even the correct wattage for the AC adapter. Now that I have the correct 130w charger, along with Doom 3 and other x86 titles, this laptop is a fucking beast at retro games. And yes, the 130w charger just arrived today. Acer’s Aspire Arcade software is great for movies and shit, and I’m running Windows 7 Home Premium with a high capacity Intel Optane SATA SSD.
How did you get that thing in only 10 bucks?
probably a VERY old one and in bad condition
@@voast4602 Even that lcd screen only costs a lot more than 10bucks
Supply and demand...Many would not consider using a device well past it's "Service life". Though this one looks to be a nice find. I see a lot of old gems on ebay going for peanuts with one of more things needing attention.
You sound like the narrator of Discovery Channel's How It's Made. So calm and relaxing.
Currently in the finds for a older laptop, windows xp/7 era, mainly for software development and testing out some things. What's some good recommendations?
cpu upgardes and ram and gpu . it can take a t9500 it can take the rare hp 4gb modules bringing it up to 8 gb it can use up to an ati hd 4850
When companies shove the word “gaming” infront of absolute everything: *S T O N K S*
Bro why did you cook the GPU that doesn’t even sound like something someone would do no way this has to be a joke!
even before cleanin it still look brand new. I know old aspire where the white plastic bit has turned yellowish.
Enough for Minecraft, GBA Emulator and Sims 2 :D
Nicely done. I always enjoy reviews of Lack luster PC parts that are neither here nor there. Finding utility for these things is a challenge that I think you resolve masterfully. Thanks for another video.
Hades benchmark please. I'm seriously considering selling my 1070 and just playing this game on my 5870.
this is my first laptop that i buy for gaming in 2007.. but my spec is difference its t7300 with 8600m gt.. you can change the graphic card.. im gaming using this lap before for gaming and im satisfied with the performance..
Wow that $10 laptop is better working than My $499 gaming laptop 💻 I'm actually upset and surprised
Tbh most laptops we consider slow would work amazing if their shitty HDDs were replaced with SSDs. Time and time again it HDDs are the point of failure and people throw whole laptops out because of em 😔😔
10:24 Interesting that after you said "throw at this laptop" in the narration, someone is seen throwing out a cup of water. Was that intentional?
Love the the well aged Sims music during the clean up 😄
That Jingle All The Way thing near the end is bonkers 😅😂🤣
Cracking video as always. Nice one butt 👍
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I had this one but the graphics card started to shut down… so i dont use it anymore
Hey, man! 10$ for such a laptop is actually good! I've recently bought a laptop on VIA S3 1.2 GHz processor for 15$... Used laptop prices in Russia are a total shitshow :(
Got myself this exact model but with black case, and amd turion instead of c2d , and it had an option to use processor integrated graphic card with the separate one in crossfire. But i must sadly admit it almost never worked.
Sorry but why would you put the gpu into the oven? If you have a gpu issue it's an internal issue with the GPU silicon. The ONLY way to fix that is to replace the chip. By putting it in the oven you're temporarily repairing the chip with the heating process. Also, by putting it in the oven at all, you've probably just degraded the chip so if it didn't have an issue before, you probably will now.
This is constructive criticism, not slating you in any way. You should probably watch Louis Rossmann's video on GPU "reflowing".
My experience: I'm a micro soldering technician and teach board repair
I’m already very aware of the issues of heat gun/oven GPU revivals. But I’m very cheap laptops like this I’ve seen them go on for even years before issues strike again and is far cheaper and cost appropriate than a full GPU repair or replacement.
@@BudgetBuildsOfficial i understand *why* you did it and yeah it's probably not going to make much sense to replace it, but it might be a good idea to at least make people aware before it causes people to throw their gpu in the oven. Like I said I don't want to come across as a jackass or tell you how to run your channel at all, but as a fellow tuber criticism is important. I still love the videos either way
oven is a really bad choice, better will be heating using hot air station or take the chip from card and put on him new solder balls and install again using BGA rework station, but overall chip probably needs to be replaced
@@kiki83607 a BGA Rework Station is pretty much the only way to do it. But as you and I both said, the correct way is to replace the chip
I had this laptop before, but with core2duo and a DVD drive. But it died two years ago sadly :/
I would bet that the issues that you were having was because of the ram. And Windows 10 was smart enough to flag that bit of ram or something idk
Not surprised Shovel Knight runs well, the game works fine on a PS Vita.
I owned a 5920g back in the day, I gotta say that think wouldn't die whatsoever!
this laptop is better than mine (mines got a 1.10ghz 4gb ddr1 dont knw the gpu)
Are you crazy? $10 laptop can handle gta V, OMG!!!!
can you make a video on something with Core i3 2350M CPU ?
I was wondering if fixing core 2 duo would be useless, but I may try if it doesnt cost much
I'm a bit sad you don't try Linux on such laptops
Bro I died when you decided to deconstruct the Ancient Danger in the Rimworld Benchmark
bro this laptop is better then my 300$ dollar laptop
You should try upgrading that cpu and gpu and compare the old vs new performance
I have a similar viao laptop from 2008. The vgn-fw11s. Its great I love it, it is esthetically amazing and has about the same specs as that asus : core 2 duo, 4g ddr2 ram and an ATI mobility radeon HD 3470 + ssd. I played gta 4 and cod WaW on lowest settings . They run fine but look not great. I love these old and yet mighty machines who don't give up the fight in gaming 🙂
Love your work man, especially old laptops. Keep it up!
My dad still using his Acer Aspire 2920z XD
I played Gmod on a very similar Laptop back in the day. Those car mods definitely kill performance
Actually a steal, slap some Elona and oldschool PC games on there and have a blast.