I Switched To AMD Radeon - 1 Month Later
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- 1 month ago I bit the bullet and switched from team green to team red. At first I didn't regret it, but do I after using it for one month?
There are definitely some downsides from making this switch, but some seriously good things coming from it too. In this video I tell you the good and bad things that have happened to me in the month I have had the AMD Radeon 7800XT.
I personally don't care which brand I go for. All I care is that I'm getting a good value product for my money. Team green didn't have that for me which is why I went for team red.
After having a great experience with AMD I plan to go all AMD for my next build to benefit from SAM (smart access memory), aka a performance booster. I potentially will go high end with the next build, too.
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The performance overlay is certainly customisable within the radeon software
100% true
AFMF is not quite the same as FSR3 frame generation. try AFMF2 which is already available in beta driver. the currently available AFMF is very cumbersome. you have to make sure to lock the fps in radeon chill. it will double the value. if it reaches that value then the latency will be removed.
Nice video. OC for your card: voltage 1,050. Ram 2500, gpu 2700. Power +11%
1050 is too low. Will cause a crash over long time gameplay. On short gameplay you might not crash but you will definitely. Also, it's not RAM. It's VRAM. And the 7800XT can easily handle 2555 (need to set 2568 in adrenalin) (some models can handle 2600 but that's really the lottery). The GPU voltage for perfect stability is 1150mV. For OC it's 1125. For more OC it's 1100mV (it's usually the limit before potential crash/issues during boot or very long gameplay) everything under 940mV is unplayable for 99% of people. And everything between 940mV and 1100mV will highly overclock your card (since the lower the voltage the higher your clock will be, so the stability will drop too) that's why in most cases all 7000 series cards can handle 1125mV without issues. And lower than 1125mV it will depends of the card/lottery. Personally I set 2838MHz core clock and 2568MHz memory clock with 1100mV perfect in absolutely everything I own. Didn't find anything that caused any issues. On cyberpunk the GPU can be set higher without error. But not the memory (will crash overtime)
@@FireCestina1200 that wont crash if you do a milder OC as i sent you, you robably triyng 3000 mhz gpu/2688 vram wich is a bit strong, my recommandation will work fine even with doubled shader constrain on memory clock.
see you
If you just play single player games just enable AFMF (AMD Fluid Motion Frames) in Radeon settings. (Per Game Profiles)
It will give a boost in FPS without losing quality of the game you are playing. It does add input delay.
AFMF2 will be releasing in the next update, which will decrease the input delay by a lot.
I play star citizen right now and I tried both Afmf 1 and Lossles Scaling (only for the frame generation, not using its upscaler), and LS is far superior in image quality. I hope I will not need LS with afmf 2.
Yea I've been enabling it in single player games except for ones that already get great fps
FSR works best in 4k tbh. I've had my 7800XT for about 2 months now and I love it. With custom Overclock and undervolt, I'm getting 200+ FPS on Forza 5 and Cyberpunk 2077 1440р max settings even with ray tracing on (Forza, RT on extreme) using AFMF 2, no FSR, only MSAA 8x. Games look beautiful and smooth and GPU temp never goes past 52°C. Was honestly so surprised by the results of a card in the $400 range.
I had an RX 6800 XT bought for msrp from a retailer in my country in my local currency (so it was a little higher than msrp). It was a great card for 1440p. But last year March I bought an RTX 4080, it was very expensive but worth it because I really wanted to dive deep into Ray Tracing and in 1440p the RTX 4080 is a beast. To be honest the RX 6800 XT is still a great GPU not much slower than a RX 7800 XT and I'm sure the 7800 XT is capable of native non RT gaming because my RX 6800 XT is capable of it in most games maybe not in the highest settings but if the highest setting is Ultra then the 6800 XT on High is a beast. I still own the RX 6800 XT and I want to build a new machine and put it back to my current machine and give it to my brother.
What game is the stuck jeep at the beginning?
Uncharted Legacy of Thieves (same game the entire video)
you should have no issues overclocking the AMD card even when it comes OC. i have an RX 6750xt Red Devil and i overclock every game. i wouldn't listen to people who tell you quick answers they just want to sound smart, i garuntee there was another reason for the crashes in hogwarts legacy. that being said, you need to remember that you have all these features on Adrenaline software that Nvidia just doesn't have. espeically the dx9 features in advanced features, and yes, the subsurface optimization works on all games lol, even the anisotropic filtering, image sharpening etc. and if you don't have freesync, there's enhanced sync works on all games. also the recording on adrenaline is phenomenal and tons more. adjusting overclocks for each specific game and adjusting colors for each game is something you just can't get on Nvidia and is why i'm sticking with AMD.
True but you have a Red Devil. It's a beast of an overclocking card, same with Sapphire Nitro+. I didn't really bother trying to really figure out why Hogwarts was crashing since that was the only game that was. I also didn't see much performance difference with overclocking.
@ShadowStarTech you won't get too big a performance difference, but it's a nice boost in certain games and a good way to get over 60fps in some scenario's. I'm sure you can overclock fine though on your Asus Dual :o maybe not as good as an RD or Nitro but decent enough
@@ShadowStarTech automatic overclocking often overclocks. you may want to search the forums for a manual setting for your card.
@@CsanadiPeter85auto OC sucks. Manual for life.
Save a settings who's stable for all the games you have.
Change settings for game who doesn't work with or can be more Overclocked (settings higher clock can decrease your clock in some game. And sometimes that's the opposite. The best performance boost comes from memory and memory timing.)
Silicon lottery still exists. Nvidia dlss is definitely still superior, but I'm excited to see amd catch up in that aspec🎉
I switched from 1080GTX to 7800XT for 550$ last year. Very happy so far. No drivers issues, very stable fps. I don't care about the ray tracing hype and do NOT want to give my cash to NVIDIA anymore. Their price, rasterizing performance and naming of GPU's using different components is insane and anti consumer. That is my first AMD GPU (already use AMD CPU's since many years) and I plan to upgrade to their next generation in 2025 as I did upgraded recently to a 5210x1440 monitor :)
Last point: AMD is making good progress with FSR tech. Version 3 is really food already.
fsr 3 doesnt use ai and its pretty good so far. Especially, fsr 3.1 in God of war. Imagine fsr 4, heard it's going to be ai based then.
i think offering a free game with the purchase of a high end card should be commonplace. shows confidence in the product by the manufacturer and helps with customer satisfaction.
True I got 2 Games 4 free with my ryzen 7800x3d
Never been more happy since switched towards 7800x3d as cpu combining it with Asus Tuf 7900XTX works like a charm
That's top of the line, jealous
@@ShadowStarTech I recently had problems with my 4070 ti, because of the 12gb VRAM, so I'm switching to a 7900 XT myself
FSR implementation can vary significantly from game to game. Besides the different versions of FSR, developers must implement it correctly for optimal performance. For example, FSR works better than XeSS in the new Final Fantasy game, where XeSS is less stable, while FSR 3.1 performs exceptionally better. Additionally, the quality also depends on the monitor you use. On a 2K monitor, "Quality" mode is fine, but on a 4K monitor, "Balanced" mode can still deliver a decent experience.
There is no point worrying about the temperature during idle. You can let 0 rpm fans mode on, as they will kick on only when you actually need them, making them wear down less
That's a good point, but I would rather not degrade my GPU because of high temps
@@ShadowStarTech My system runs better overall with Zero RPM off. I consider the GPU fans a part of the entire cooling system. The CPU fan ramps up a bit more when Zero RPM is on.
@@ShadowStarTech gpu wont degrade cuz tempts are low on idle
@@ShadowStarTechnot how that works, that's also why there's throttle temps. Beyond 110c is when RDNA3 silicon physically starts degrading, anything under that temp is fine
idk man, i have a 6750xt i play in 4k most of the time...sometimes FSR and if i dont want FSR i usually play fine at 1440p. i'm wondering if you're having an optimization issue here.
Maybe. I do tend to go overkill on quality lol. I might pick up a 4k 144hz monitor at Black Friday if there's good enough deals. Might also consider an OLED. Just wish 4k OLEDs weren't $1,000.
@@ShadowStarTech if you do OLED make sure it's LG for the W-OLED technology. it's definitely the safest for burn in :o
My 6600 xt runs everything at 1440p and most games at 4k60fps
My 6750xt was impressive, ended up upgrading to a 7800xt for the 16gb vram and full bus for VR. Both cards are excellent for the price particularly the 6750xt.
I have a 6750xt and it struggles with 2k. What am I doing wrong?
just got my 7900xtx paired with the 7800x3d. Had a 3090 and man, the performance difference there. im happy i switched to AMD
High end to even higher end, nice!
4:26 You can actually find some pretty good 4k panels at really good prices these days.
Some ppl might don't like the idea of going with a n OLED TV rather than a "Monitor" but i was able to get a LG C3 48" for about 600 dollars and i said goodbye to my dual monitor setup of 27" 1440p and 4k 28" booth IPS panels.
The difference is night and day specially in the contrast department and i find it to be the perfect size for me with a desk depth of 31.5 inches.
Maybe you should give it a try in the near future plus the TV also becomes your multimedia center where you can stream with your phone or use the apps such as crunchyroll to watch stuff without having the PC on all the time, i honestly don't see myself going back to a regular monitor anytime soon.
I've been enjoying my 6700xt for a while, but I probably won't go AMD next time. I've been feeling a lot of FOMO on DLSS, especially since it's required for 60fps on new releases. My next card will probably be Nvidia unless AMD comes out with something as good.
I'm considering asus Dual . there's a smoking deal on it for 400 USD at my local Computer Store but Wanted a Review before I pulled the trigger as a few yeara ago Asus Refused to AMA a Am4 Motherboard I brought .. so I turned me off buy Asus for a while
I went nvidia once in 15 years of gaming on pc, never again. The radeon software is so much better than nvidia's. The drivers are fantastic! I had the gtx 1070 back in the day and everyone says that was the golden era of nvidia well i'd hate to see it now! Plus more people need to think hard about the fact nvidia have 80+% market share which is baddd imagine no competition at all no other company's doing gpu's. 4090 is already pathetic price wise, so imagine what they would do if they had zero competition.
Are you kidding me? For the overlay you can do whatever you want. You must have not seen the settings. I feel like you need to be more educated on radeon before you come up with a review. And You can run native resolution no problem on 99 percent of the games out there.
U should buy 7900GRE instead of 7800XT. But next gen is coming anyways 8800XT, 8900GRE,
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For the performance overlay to get more shown you need to select what you want from the tracking window on the right side of metrics in performance. It has a LOT of options.
How is driver stability for you?
That game was way too long.
DLSS, FG, and superior driver support is what should matter to the average consumer. AI frames are the future and any perceived negatives (image quality, latency) are imperceptible to the 99.999% of users.
I never noticed differences in latency from various things, but I always have noticed it with frame gen and I just can't use it in most games because it bothers me so much.
You're stupid no more words are need for a fanboy such as yourself
What game is that?
my 7900xt will arrive this week
Hope you went With the gigabyte or asus tuf version. All the other manufacturers tend to have massive coilwhine with the 7900xt
That's uncharted territory for you, my friend
Yeah. Check out the Uncharted games. :)
That's a load of crap.
uncharted goated games
do you have problem trying to stream ur games on discord?
Amd seems to have a bug that crash ur games if u stream on discord.
I haven't streamed on discord
i dont have any problem streaming it on discord, but whenever im streaming it sometimes it causing microstutter every now and then, but im already fixed it by close the discord app whenever you streaming it, make sure discord only run on TRAY, sorry explanation is not good english is not my main language
Hey buddy... your missing a fan and want to overclock. Funny plan. If you dont pick a decent model dont expect much of an overclock. Example my Aorus 6800 master can overclock from 2270mhz to 2545mhz without any effort just sliders to max.
You should try Tech Preview driver 24.20.11.01 it has FMF2 it has much better latency and look better than FMF. 2:20 You are incorrect Adrenalin overlay does not lack anything You can choose to show many other thing. Sounds like You have left things to learn, simple things.... If You want most performance from Your GPU, You must undervolt and do not push memory clock too high it will make You crush in some games. I have RX 7700 XT undervolt 1005mV and max frequency 2790MHz it does boost higher than that but stays very close to 1005mV. You should not raise Your frequency too high, so core voltage stays around Your set voltage for best results. My card performs same as stock RX 7800 XT
Just so you know, the AMDGPU drivers on Linux give far better performance than on Windows with those particular video cards. its kinda the opposite with NVIDIA
Native high/ultra in most 1440p game is doable. Upscaled 1080p to 1440p in most latest game/very very demanding game / a bit older game with RT is doable. Upscaled 1080p to 1440p + FG for demanding game + RT is doable. Upscaled 1440p to 4K high/ultra is doable on demanding game is doable.
My 7800XT (Second weakest after reference card, XFX Qick 319) can totally handle above 60 FPS no FG/AFMF) 4K FSR2.1 cyberpunk with high/ultra settings for example .
7800XT OC (manual OC) can get close to 7900GRE or beat it sometimes in games.
Keeping it real....Unless you are looking for really high fps....I very seldom find I need any type of scaling and even if I do use it....I can usually set it up for like 85% and it's fine. Also you mentioned there weren't many tweaking options but there are quite a few more than you mentioned. I think you missed something.
My 6600 xt runs everything at native 1440p :S
And even 4k(60fps), except for games like Hogwarts legacy.Fortnite 4k, high settings gets 120fps
look for this driver if you want AFMF 2, is better optimised to work with "enhanced sync" and " Chill" and doubles the frames on "High priority" and "Quality" , this is the full name of driver as I can not post ling here but you can find the link on AMD SUpport Driver 24.8.1 page down in "Important notes" paragraph you will find a "HERE" link for AFMF2. BUT this, at the end,is the version or name of driver, is not found automatically as is in work but stable for me: AMD Software: Adrenalin Edition Preview Driver for AFMF 2 Driver Version 24.20.11.01 Windows® 10 and Windows® 11 Driver Store Version 32.0.12011.1010
Hello guys i need your help i have rx5700 i can't use xess it give me lower fps than native on quality mod
is anyone know how to fix this?
One more question how to get fluid motion frame because i can't find it in my adrenaline settings
thanks in advance
Switched to full AMD, RX6700XT & 5700x3D, best budget option with nvme storage
Is this game Uncharted? If yes which part?
It's uncharted 4... I think he's in the middle part of the game, Where u mostly drive the jeep.
@@YoYo-be4ow thanks for the info
Don’t overclock an amd gpu, under volt it, better temps and lower power draw it’s great
I recommend the 7800x3d cpu best gaming cpu out there
Runs every game native at 1440p the hell you talking about
There's more overlays. You didn't check them to show
With AMD you are not undervolting to save some bucks on electricity bill, but to make the card boost higher. Give it a try and you will see higher clocks. Same with Ryzen CPU-s. Strange but true.
Oh yeah I've heard of that. I'll try doing an undervolt.
You can change info on the overlay through adrenalin, you can even activate graphs
Zen 5 is pretty great. I went from a Ryzen 7900x to a 9950x and love the performance increase. I do have a slight overclock and a custom watercooler but the 9950x runs cooler than the 7900x with the same cooling setup.
I guess the fact that all 9000 chips are 65w is a great benefit. Wouldn't have to buy an overkill cooler.
if you can get it for a good price and you dont mind dealing with small bugs and issues regularly go amd
DO you own AMD card? I never had a bug. Had the card for 4 months now.
Are you streaming on twitch?? Does av1 supported?
I don't stream, only record. And pretty sure Twitch doesn't have AV1 support *yet*.
Thanks for this well done video.
Zen 5 is underwhelming and overpriced. lol, what a load of BS. Really enjoying my R7 9700X.
What was your previous CPU though?
@@ShadowStarTech a 3600. Just did a full system upgrade.
That's a big upgrade. I feel like going from a 12600k to a new gen cpu won't see the benefit for how much it will cost.
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I've been very happy with AMD graphics cards for years. Currently, I'm using the 7900XT on a 4K 240Hz OLED display. Price/Raster-wise, you can find really great deals vs Nvidia. enjoy your new GPU! +sub.
I hope to upgrade to a 4k high refresh rate OLED some day when they aren't $1,000!
@@ShadowStarTech yeah i agree that the prices atm are insane.
Yes its true. wanted to go with 4070ti super, but there wasnt rly a good offer under 900. So i snatched the same lvl performance 7900xt (since i dont care about raytracing) for 590€! What an insane deal and value... i am doing 4k in any game i play and i love it.
590? That's incredible!
I need a ID on those two screens
What CPU do you have ? I have this card with a 5700x and 5700x3d on the way but probably overkill for the 7800xt
Oh you have a 12600? That's a nice CPU I'm surprised your struggling with such a nice one .
Might upgrade to a 12900k since it's really cheap right now and I don't want to risk the intel crap with instability. I probably will wait till Black Friday, though.
@@ShadowStarTech id probably buy the i7 12th you still get the 8 p cores like the I9 just less p cores . The i9 always felt a bit of a rip off Vs what you got as the i9 tax is real.
@@ShadowStarTech by the way you should be able to still turn on intels version on Sam which is resizable bar in bios
Going from a 12600k to a 12700k would see no benefit. I have had resizable bar on even before I switched gpus.
a 6800xt owner here
you can overclock the card even while it has a overclocked edition but the best way is undervolting then do a mild oc
reason you probably crashed was due to high memory frequency some cards can max it out some cant it really comes down to silicon quality most cards should be able to do
anywhere from -50mv to -100mv and maybe 100mhz increase in the clock
also to mention undervolting helps alot not just temps and lifespan of fans but mostly power draw per year electricity in the uk can be expensive so if you game alot undervolting really does wounders in terms of yearly cost
Hey im building a pc soon i am thinking to get a rx 7700xt but i heard there are a lot of stutters and fps drops problems still remain in amd since you are rx 6800xt owner u should know somethink about cuz i dont want to go rtx 4060ti really
@@krontoques anyone who told you that is lying my games have been performing great
@@Jayy_R2 its good to know but i do resesrch before somethink i buy and the thinks i see on reddit people talking about stutters and such got me worring also what driver version u use for your adrenaline ?
@@krontoques latest drivers you could also look on used market great cards on there
instead of zen 5 use zen 4 the 7800x3d is still the best gaming cpu on the market
man. the zen 5 motherboards are not even out yet :)
@@CsanadiPeter85 Zen 5 is compatible with Zen 4 boards, they're both am5 :)
@@EntityPog yes. compatible with it. which means it will boot the computer. but it is not optimized.
@@CsanadiPeter85 that's how motherboards work, a ryzen 5800x3d will perform just the same on a b450 and b550 the only Difference is connectivity, and chipset features.
Right now it's out of stock 😂
Gonna see what deals there are this black Friday
so good or not?
Yes very. Can't beat the price to performance. That's why you go with AMD. If you want high end though you are kind of forced to buy NVIDIA.
@@ShadowStarTech i using rx 6600 should i upgrade to 6700xt
I would go for the 7700XT since it's a little bit faster and has better ray tracing and hardware since it's a generation newer.
@@ShadowStarTech i dont care ray tracing much
so should buy a rex 4060 ti 18 gb or the rx 7800 xt
7800 XT. The 4060 Ti 16GB is poorly priced and under-powered. But if you really want Nvidia, save up more money and get a 4070 Super.
@@Reluctant_Hero I dont really care about the brand I just want a Safe gpu
@@YtHusain.1 7800xt is like 30-50% faster in 1440p depends on game , soo ofc 7800xt :D
@@gogaming5449 but there arent any driver Problems Right? If no I will take this gpu
@@YtHusain.1 Current AMD gpu drivers are very solid.
7800xt is a solid 1440p gpu, but id still personally probably take a 4070super instead of a 7800xt.
And why is that?
@@addingvalue2326 beacuse its the better performing gpu overall, dlss and nvenc is superior. while also pulling 40-60w less than the 7800xt on average.
dont get me wrong, 7800xt is great, i have a 6800xt, i would just personally take the 4070super cause its better.
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comparison between the two in 1440, they pretty much match in many games with the 4070super winning in many, the only thing the 7800xt has over the 4070 super is 16gb vram vs 12, but 12gb is more than enough for now in 1440p.
@@AGENTEN-ry6lr what is the price difference in your country?
@@AGENTEN-ry6lr and what do you think about 12 gb vs 16 gb vram? It gives better future proofing
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Was Radeon fanboy all my life till 3 days ago....I switch a rx 6700 XT for a 4070ti super and Jesus the diference is huge , NVIDIA is miles ahead with DLSS and imagine quality....its like I am playing new games that I had since forever
Tbf those cards aren't even in the same category. But yeah, DLSS is currently still superior to FSR
@@shopcom I didn't talk about category ....just the cards I have switch.
6700 XT is from 2021. 4070 Ti SUPER is from this year. Duh.
You'd feel the same moving from a 3060 ti to a 4070 ti super.
Nvidia has really good feature set for new titles, DLSS and rt/path tracing stuff. Maybe one day amd will catch up, but right now my 7900xt which I stepped up to from a 3060 ti, massive leap. So yeah, spend double the money, get big leap in performance remains true on both sides
I mean... one cost 900$ and the other cost 350. What did you expect lol....