The desire for riding fast vs. slow (relatively speaking) is also a matter of age. I rode like a maniac in my 20s, not because I wanted to be faster than others, but because I loved the thrill it gave to me. Now in my 60s it just does feel good any more, it feels unwise and dangerous instead.
Thank you for another excellent video. Few people dive this deep while genuinely caring of how the bike feels. And with the stunning backdrops, I am totally addicted 😂 to these now 😅
Thank You, Thank You!! I got my M1 California motorcycle license in 1977!! I wasn't always an old man. I think I ride "enthusiastically", but I don't ride wheelies down the freeway. I've owned sportbikes - the Honda RC51, Ducati 1098, etc. And I still don't understand why TouTubers seem obsessed with 150+ hp bikes. I'm seriously looking at the 850 as a Rational Man's bike. Thanks.
Had mine for 2.5years now, love it! Great do it all bike. Changed the screen and will cruise at 80-90mph for hours if required in comfort. Can bimble pulling cleanly from 35mph in 6th if you’re feeling lazy. My go to bike, had 7 bikes now reduced to 3, it’s my favorite all rounder.
Thank you Bro´ för your interesting exposé of this Tiger model and for showing us that beautiful and fascinating, for not to say, breathtaking scenery along your route
Superb video. I currently own a Tiger Sport 1050 which I use for 2 up touring in Spain. I'm thinking of changing this for either a Tiger Sport 660 or a Tiger Sport 850. Not sure the 660 will be big enough for the wife's luggage requirements.
like to hear more !! i hear negative comments on 850 sport for 2 up suspension setup. tiger sport 660 for sure for one person. heavier than the 850 thats a surprise. Must be engine difference ?
I've had a 900 gt. Realy good machine untill something is wrong. Dealer was awfull and i once road it on salty roads. Everything, and i mean everything, started to rust big time. In combination that it lost around 1/3 of it's value after one year, makes it a realy difficult buy. The tiger is gone btw, switched back to japanese steel.
Only lost 1/3 of it's value? Most new motorcycles in the Arizona market lose 1/2 of the OTD price paid. The dealers all charge $800+ for freight, $650 for assembly, $400 doc fees, plus tax, title, license means all new bike got OTD for $2200+ over MSRP. Either way, your point is well spoken.
Have a 2018 tiger 800 xrt and love the suspension, handling and superb engine. Only criticism is excessive engine heat. Was engine heat an issue with the 850?
I'm probably interested in the 850 probably more than any other bike. Currently on a modded VStrom 650. I have it modded for all day comfort with a Russell seat, modded suspension and brakes. It is ultra reliable. If I wanted to build another bike, this and the Tracer is at the top of my list. The only problem is the Vstrom is all I need...and I can't see wearing it out. Can you tell me where that mountain road with the mini tunnels was?
I’ve got the Moto Guzzi V85TT, my dad has the tiger 850. Seems like we’re both after a comfortable mid weight ADV that can handle dirt and gravel roads. The bikes are well matched to ride together. I just love the way Guzzis make power, the engine, the shaft drive. My dad has always had a soft spot for Triumphs.
What tyre pressures have people used on gravel roads,I've got some improvement going down to 35R/30F but it needs to go lower but not sure about the bead.
Transalp with the cheapest possible components, it will never ride as nicely on tarmac. But it's a Honda and it's a more off-road oriented. The V-Strom 800 Re/Tech - a much closer comparison to the Tiger 850, same class.
yes sounds great ! light under 200kg, good seats, but Thailand quit bringing them in. Why ? nothing else to consider but xsr900 in the same weight range. Wait for Honda to bring in a 750. Can't spend $4500.00 usd more for a tiger gt pro
like to see a comparison of this vs xsr900. similar specs, weight. but xsr has quick shifter, cruise control; but not such a great setup for 2 up riding. .. suspension control for an extra 70kg does not seem that impressive on the 850 ? comments/comparisons.
i don't hear much positive on the 2 up riding. seat is great compared to the sport 660 but its lighter; as one more positive. my 750gs is too top heavy for oldsters. but rear suspension is not setup for 65kg on the back. NOw to add all the add on's that i put on my 2019 750gs that has tpms, engine temps; but is 222kg . I ride teh 500x around town at 200kg. quite ez manuevering but limited power.
Si estuviera dispuesto a gastar una cantidad indecente de dinero, probablemente sería en esta máquina, pero casi seguro que mi próxima moto será la Himalayan 450.
Sold my T 850sport due to vibes in handlebars on motorway +120km/h was unbarable. worse than a 300ccm kymco scooter. have previous had the Tiger 800 and it was sweet, even on the motorways +120. now riding a BMW F750 GS and i'm happy now. (even got cruise control)
It's not lighter. Before Triumph specs was only with wet weight. When the Tiger 850 was introduced, it shows dry weight. If you convert it to wet weight, it will be about 220 kg (vs 206 kg for the Tiger 660).
The mt800 ibex has way more for way less money.and if anyone wants to complain about reliability of cf moto motorcycle my recent 3500 mile trip without any issues should nullify this.
But there have been a lot of camshaft issues with the Lc8c engine (from the 790 KTM) it has. Many owner reports of camshaft wear in bikes with this engine i.e., KTM 790+890 Adventure/Husky 901 and not just in pre 2020 models that KTM admitted to. Reports in later models like 23/24. The camshaft wear being very bad way before it's first major service. Reports of engines dying too. The issue hasn't been fully solved by KTM by introducing wider finger followers for MY21 and an additional oil screen for MY20 as they claim. I seriously was considering the CFMoto 800MT because it seemed like a great package at a very competitive price, but knowing this issue hasn't been fully addressed yet completely put me off it. Just Google Lc8c camshaft issues and you'll get tons of articles and Reddit posts confirming all of the above.
OK, I have a Tiger 850 so I'm not debating anything in the content of the video. But is this an AI voice? So many errors in the dialogue that it make it hard to listen to, even as a fan of the bike. ESL is one thing, but something doesn't seem right here.
I was thinking the same thing, it's disconcerting as you become aware of an odd pronunciation and phraseology. That aside, it's a good review with a quirky manner.
I own one. First gear is way too high, and when I have a passenger it struggles to take off from the line. I'm swapping the front sprocket from a 16 to a 15, but that raises the rpm on the highway. Because of the offset firing, it runs like a four missing on one cylinder. I would suggest anyone looking at one to look at other choices before buying. Its not a bad bike, its just not as good as it could be.
The off the line issue is due to the ecu fuel map being very lean and the Keihin fuel injectors read the maf sensors the lean side, too. This is an across models issue. The only way to overcome this is by 1) increasing off the line throttle response and richening the fuel map. This can be done easily with Tuneecu.
That's funny, or a bit odd. I own one too, and I think first gear is a bit too high for some off-road work, but otherwise fine. With luggage loaded for a trip, or with a passenger, there is no struggle. The highway RPM's are fine for sane riding, but some want to increase the gearing to lower hwy. engine speed. The firing order is in no way 'missing' a cylinder; it has more torque than a KTM 790/890 engine I( i know, having ridden both) and it is totally comfortable at highway speeds. I'd say, the others are not as good as they should be, esp in comparison to the 850\900 engine. One of the best overall M/C packages available.
The desire for riding fast vs. slow (relatively speaking) is also a matter of age. I rode like a maniac in my 20s, not because I wanted to be faster than others, but because I loved the thrill it gave to me. Now in my 60s it just does feel good any more, it feels unwise and dangerous instead.
The best review I've ever seen. Love this channel ❤
Thank you for another excellent video. Few people dive this deep while genuinely caring of how the bike feels. And with the stunning backdrops, I am totally addicted 😂 to these now 😅
Thank You, Thank You!! I got my M1 California motorcycle license in 1977!! I wasn't always an old man. I think I ride "enthusiastically", but I don't ride wheelies down the freeway. I've owned sportbikes - the Honda RC51, Ducati 1098, etc. And I still don't understand why TouTubers seem obsessed with 150+ hp bikes. I'm seriously looking at the 850 as a Rational Man's bike. Thanks.
Had mine for 2.5years now, love it! Great do it all bike. Changed the screen and will cruise at 80-90mph for hours if required in comfort. Can bimble pulling cleanly from 35mph in 6th if you’re feeling lazy. My go to bike, had 7 bikes now reduced to 3, it’s my favorite all rounder.
Thank you Bro´ för your interesting exposé of this Tiger model and for showing us that beautiful and fascinating, for not to say, breathtaking scenery along your route
Excellent review. As a seasoned rider of 50 years, I agree with you 100%.
Superb video. I currently own a Tiger Sport 1050 which I use for 2 up touring in Spain. I'm thinking of changing this for either a Tiger Sport 660 or a Tiger Sport 850. Not sure the 660 will be big enough for the wife's luggage requirements.
like to hear more !! i hear negative comments on 850 sport for 2 up suspension setup. tiger sport 660 for sure for one person. heavier than the 850 thats a surprise. Must be engine difference ?
I've had a 900 gt. Realy good machine untill something is wrong. Dealer was awfull and i once road it on salty roads. Everything, and i mean everything, started to rust big time. In combination that it lost around 1/3 of it's value after one year, makes it a realy difficult buy.
The tiger is gone btw, switched back to japanese steel.
Only lost 1/3 of it's value? Most new motorcycles in the Arizona market lose 1/2 of the OTD price paid. The dealers all charge $800+ for freight, $650 for assembly, $400 doc fees, plus tax, title, license means all new bike got OTD for $2200+ over MSRP.
Either way, your point is well spoken.
I got a 23 triumph in December 2023 for $1500 under MSRP. Don't give a damn what anybody thinks it's worth, it was a good price and an awesome bike.
@@logangodofcandy All that matters is that you like. I ignore anyone who criticizes mine.
I have 850 Sport and l love to ride it. And this is almost the best explanatory vid (especially about 850 Sport) 😊
I wish the 850 had cruise control. I had that on my scrambler, and I've been spoiled
The 850 hits a real sweet spot.. Cruise and a slightly higher rear spring rate would make it ideal for touring 2 up.
the vibrations I'd contribute to the new T-plane crank they moved to instead of the typical triangle-style (crossplane) crank.
Have a 2018 tiger 800 xrt and love the suspension, handling and superb engine. Only criticism is excessive engine heat. Was engine heat an issue with the 850?
Looks to be the same as the 2023 900
I loved the part about the narcissists influencers! So well said!
Love the end
I'm probably interested in the 850 probably more than any other bike. Currently on a modded VStrom 650. I have it modded for all day comfort with a Russell seat, modded suspension and brakes. It is ultra reliable. If I wanted to build another bike, this and the Tracer is at the top of my list. The only problem is the Vstrom is all I need...and I can't see wearing it out. Can you tell me where that mountain road with the mini tunnels was?
Hi! Geo tags in right-bottom corner - France, D28 road from Beuil to Notre Dame.
Moto Guzzi v85tt has only 75-80 hp, but they are supremely comfortable, handle great, cost less, and has cruise.
I’ve got the Moto Guzzi V85TT, my dad has the tiger 850. Seems like we’re both after a comfortable mid weight ADV that can handle dirt and gravel roads. The bikes are well matched to ride together. I just love the way Guzzis make power, the engine, the shaft drive. My dad has always had a soft spot for Triumphs.
Got to admit the suspension on the tiger 900 is superb!
agree but its $4,000 more usd here.
what about the comparison vs 850GS ? i feel like its heavier, the shift is better on the triumphand its more playfull
What tyre pressures have people used on gravel roads,I've got some improvement going down to 35R/30F but it needs to go lower but not sure about the bead.
Well done thanks
How would you compare the Triumph Tiger 850 vs Honda XL750 Transalp?
Transalp with the cheapest possible components, it will never ride as nicely on tarmac. But it's a Honda and it's a more off-road oriented. The V-Strom 800 Re/Tech - a much closer comparison to the Tiger 850, same class.
Thumbs up for the Blade Runner reference!
yes sounds great ! light under 200kg, good seats, but Thailand quit bringing them in. Why ? nothing else to consider but xsr900 in the same weight range. Wait for Honda to bring in a 750. Can't spend $4500.00 usd more for a tiger gt pro
like to see a comparison of this vs xsr900. similar specs, weight. but xsr has quick shifter, cruise control; but not such a great setup for 2 up riding. .. suspension control for an extra 70kg does not seem that impressive on the 850 ?
comments/comparisons.
The XSR is a city bike, the Tiger 850 is a touring bike. You can compare the Tracer 9 and Tiger 850 (the Tracer 9 has a much stiffer suspension).
Is this Ai generated video?
Is this ai assisted audio?
The voice speeds up , then slows then speeds up.
Great info .
i don't hear much positive on the 2 up riding. seat is great compared to the sport 660 but its lighter; as one more positive. my 750gs is too top heavy for oldsters. but rear suspension is not setup for 65kg on the back. NOw to add all the add on's that i put on my 2019 750gs that has tpms, engine temps; but is 222kg . I ride teh 500x around town at 200kg. quite ez manuevering but limited power.
Si estuviera dispuesto a gastar una cantidad indecente de dinero, probablemente sería en esta máquina, pero casi seguro que mi próxima moto será la Himalayan 450.
Where the heck was this filmed? Excellent roads!
welcome to France
Sold my T 850sport due to vibes in handlebars on motorway +120km/h was unbarable. worse than a 300ccm kymco scooter. have previous had the Tiger 800 and it was sweet, even on the motorways +120. now riding a BMW F750 GS and i'm happy now. (even got cruise control)
I've got a '19 Tracer 900GT and I find it vague and unsatisfying. Would you consider a Tiger 900GT something that could scratch that itch?
Hi! Different classes. Tracer is a pure sport tourer with a comfortable ergo, Tiger is a crossover. It feels different.
Seems both Suzuki and Honda with the Strom 800/Transalp have realized there's a niche here in this price range
Strom800/Transalp are more simple.
I'm going with the Tracer 9GT
Been thinking the same.
Why
why is 850 tiger lighter than the sport 660 ? engine difference. . I was looknig at that for hills, twisties but 2 up riding my be more Un-comfy.
It's not lighter. Before Triumph specs was only with wet weight. When the Tiger 850 was introduced, it shows dry weight. If you convert it to wet weight, it will be about 220 kg (vs 206 kg for the Tiger 660).
The mt800 ibex has way more for way less money.and if anyone wants to complain about reliability of cf moto motorcycle my recent 3500 mile trip without any issues should nullify this.
But there have been a lot of camshaft issues with the Lc8c engine (from the 790 KTM) it has. Many owner reports of camshaft wear in bikes with this engine i.e., KTM 790+890 Adventure/Husky 901 and not just in pre 2020 models that KTM admitted to. Reports in later models like 23/24. The camshaft wear being very bad way before it's first major service. Reports of engines dying too.
The issue hasn't been fully solved by KTM by introducing wider finger followers for MY21 and an additional oil screen for MY20 as they claim.
I seriously was considering the CFMoto 800MT because it seemed like a great package at a very competitive price, but knowing this issue hasn't been fully addressed yet completely put me off it.
Just Google Lc8c camshaft issues and you'll get tons of articles and Reddit posts confirming all of the above.
Tbh while it might be very good, having a £1000 bill every 12000 miles for valve clearances makes it effing expensive. Nope.
One day maybe I will be able to ride this much 😂 For now, it’s the usual 3,000 miles a year 🙄
Spend a thousand pounds to learn to do it yourself.
Ride or adventure ride. But ride!
What dealer?
gt pro mid size glass but first glass price. ! nothing else is more $ with the same options.
who has this chart at 13:60 good data. ?
OK, I have a Tiger 850 so I'm not debating anything in the content of the video. But is this an AI voice? So many errors in the dialogue that it make it hard to listen to, even as a fan of the bike. ESL is one thing, but something doesn't seem right here.
I was thinking the same thing, it's disconcerting as you become aware of an odd pronunciation and phraseology.
That aside, it's a good review with a quirky manner.
super
"Like tears in rain"
I own one. First gear is way too high, and when I have a passenger it struggles to take off from the line. I'm swapping the front sprocket from a 16 to a 15, but that raises the rpm on the highway. Because of the offset firing, it runs like a four missing on one cylinder. I would suggest anyone looking at one to look at other choices before buying. Its not a bad bike, its just not as good as it could be.
The off the line issue is due to the ecu fuel map being very lean and the Keihin fuel injectors read the maf sensors the lean side, too. This is an across models issue. The only way to overcome this is by 1) increasing off the line throttle response and richening the fuel map. This can be done easily with Tuneecu.
That's funny, or a bit odd. I own one too, and I think first gear is a bit too high for some off-road work, but otherwise fine. With luggage loaded for a trip, or with a passenger, there is no struggle. The highway RPM's are fine for sane riding, but some want to increase the gearing to lower hwy. engine speed.
The firing order is in no way 'missing' a cylinder; it has more torque than a KTM 790/890 engine I( i know, having ridden both) and it is totally comfortable at highway speeds. I'd say, the others are not as good as they should be, esp in comparison to the 850\900 engine.
One of the best overall M/C packages available.
hear that 850 is cancelled in asia; or at least thailand ; Why makes no sense ; great weight and layout. so much lighter than the gt . What/Why
Tracer?
Could have done without the entire "psychology" section.. bleh. You also sound like you're mimicking Ryan Kluftinger's style to a tee, it's annoying.
as opposed to a dishonest review?
way overpriced