Snapdragon X Elite vs M3 vs Intel - R.I.P. x86 Laptops!
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THIS is the ARM Laptop you should buy right now ($50 OFF) ➡ geni.us/qk6qhg
Sir please give me a M3 MacBook air 15 😊
Qualcomm is entering the pc market, not at the best time. (Ignoring previous releases). If they entered PC market in 2019 or 2020, it would have been a different story. Now for Apple there is M series chips and intel has already come out of their 10nm debacle. The core ultra series seems quite impressive and the next core ultra (lunar lake and arrow Lake) are around the corner. There is very little that we can gain by going to Qualcomm now. Secondly, for Qualcomm, it's going to be a real struggle now with application compatibility. Nobody buys a laptop for the benchmark scores.
Would make an expensive door stop.
@@Yusufyusuf-lh3dw seriously dude ? current core ultra doesn't pose any threat to this new Qualcomm cpu. The only advantage Intel has is the support of applications and games their product has on windows
Maybe if they release it in an Android Tablet like ipad m2 🤔
I am an Apple guy, for good reasons, however having an ARM windows chip is great news, as Max says it will keep Apple focused. We all remember 10 years of no progress from Intel because they dominated the market, completion is good for us all !
how can u live without customisation and the fact that you dont own the hardware u use
@@Noname12........641if machines can be decently setup and specced right there should be no need for customisation. However I think as arm chips continue to develop you’ll get more options in the future if demand is high enough.
@@richertzyep thats what expected from the apple users
no need for customisation seriously
@@Noname12........641I’m a windows user 😅 I just use my time better
@@Noname12........641 that sounds like someone who has not lived and worked with apple ! I have both Windows and Apple machines, right tool for the right job, games and graphics based software, windows everytime, creation, productivity, video editing, photos and work, Apple, no crashing, everything just works. The video editing is in another league 🙂
This is a very good thing. Apple needs direct competition to keep it from turning into Adobe.
I think the benchmarks should compare with similar TDP processors.
Snapdragon got a bright future
Yes Snapdragon X Elite ❤❤
Only if software follows
Apple has a much better eco-system to rope in developers. If there isn't a protocol in hardware/software to get good x86 performance on non native ARM apps it will be junk. All of which Apple had at launch. Microsoft launched the original surface on ARM more than a decade ago and even had ARM variants of windows. Yet despite more than a decade of developing on ARM and having first adopters advantage they're still far behind the curve in software. I trust Qualcomm a lot more with hardware than I trust windows to get their software optimized for ARM near term.
nvidia is also coming to the arm
brighter than my future
Linux will take this chips to another level
why ?
Only if there's proper support by Qualcomm. So far Linux on ARM seems to be mostly happening on single board computers.
@@user-ml3tk6yt3m linux is faster than windows, faster read & write
@@clemenslangenberger4791Linux happened on M1
@@ourmarkasyup linux is good for development, and open-source environment. :) we can optimise this chip on linux for apps.
This is a good chip which helps us linux users to move to laptop environment.
I hope Microsoft takes ARM builds seriously and the rest of the industry follows. After using a Apple M chip laptop its near impossible to go back to x86 laptops that run hot, loud and have terrible battery life.
Tell me one windows producr that they were trend setters and industry followed them? The only good thing from microsoft is their ms office since everyone is locked in in word and excel and compatibility with SAP.. if they would not have it everyone would be on mac.. and we will see how this will evolve once everything goes on cloud.
@@rolih6 DirectX for gaming, till this day you can't still play triple A games on a Macbook
It is indeed taking arm seriously now
@@Gin2341Bro, mac can run baldur's gate 3.
@@ahqsoftwares you mean it runs like shit even at low settings with fsr performance mode
I doubt it will be any more powerful than the m3’s, but the fact that windows users finally get access to good arm chips is good to see. Competition is what we need in desktop/laptop arm CPUs, it will push Apple to make them even better, massive consumer W
A decent answer that's not fanboy apple or windows. Competition is good, I agree. I want to see more arm windows laptops. Everyone knew x86 was aging like milk but so many things depend on it working flawless it was hard to change. Apple could make the switch be ause they didn't power anything but apps on the laptop and word.... Easy to change the game when you're basically not in it as a real player. I mean they had marketshare but it wasn't for business or productivity. They made the switch easily and it worked. Let's hope intel/amd/Qualcomm do the same and jump on the arm movement.
they dont need to be better they just need to be more affordable
people will choose windows over mac any day
@@Noname12........641 mac is or was a status symbol. You have people on social.assictance.bying mac to be cool but can't buy food. They buy it just to look at facebook and snapchat and google docs. It's sad.
Windows is still trashbag of an OS. Even Qualcomm used Linux scores for their presentations.
I honestly don't care about these laptops but I want these chips to be in handheld gaming devices like Legion Go
If snapdragon CPU could use Graphic card from nvidia or AMD then Apple will be in trouble !
I prefer longer battery life over graphic performance. Hope they will come with MUX switch
If possible
@@ataytaygaraev4298 for gaming it will need good GPU
That assumes, Apple and others are going to stand still. I agree better Arm chips are coming to Windows, and will alter the landscape. However, I am mindful of these RUclips videos sensationalizing everything for views.
@@ataytaygaraev4298 graphics can stay idle until required, so battery isn't really an issue. only thing would be weight.
Ok…in a “Lab environment” the chips look great….what about “real life use”? That we will have to wait…
Lab environment?! I bet you'd do great in a circus. Lab tests many at times don't show the true performance of chips. Some optimizations here and there with some driver updates can make the X Elite perform even better than in this “lab environment”.
@@fidelisitor8953 Lab tests don't show true performance. It's always optimistic performance
Windows pcs don't care about aesthetics so heat sinks will be adequate that's for sure
Lab environment thats a proper pc that is being used
Wow, I would love to see that. Thanks for the content!
Hopefully they eventually come out with desktop CPU's. That's where things will get exciting.
Wow! Came out right on time.
excellent. thanks for my daily fix
7:31 or egpu's! That would be wonderful. It's the only thing I feel Apple silicon is missing out on.
I did not see performance per watt or efficiency. The lack of data suggests something may be less exciting . Of course, by having 12 performance cores, 50% more than the M3 chip it would be a shocker if the multicore score was not better! I do not think Apple is worried about this. Maybe Intel, but they have been worried for years due to their poor record of upgrades over the last 5-7 years. Then we have to understand these tests are done in perfect condition on reference devices with fans and large casing probably with max RAM and the fastest SSD. When we test with Macs with the same configs when in a retail unit running on Windows in real world tests maybe with non-ARM software, then the reality may not be as rosy.
Exactly, that’s what I’m most curious about. In the cinebench multi core test what matter the most in this situations is not how many score you can get out of it, because anyone can just clock up or put more cores in. Rather it’s more about performance per watt
That is why the real comparison will be against Intel 14th gen. Last year, a Surface Pro 9 in ARM flavor was like less than half the performance of the Intel version.
If this year, the ARM version is at the level of the new Intel chip (quite more powerful that last year), this is a giant LEAP and if the ARM chip has a significant advantage in term of consumption, we may be for an "M chip moment" on Windows side. Very interesting.
And yes, I do think both Intel and Apple are worried. Apple gained suddenly market share because of the M chip. If Windows machines can offer the same level of autonomy (performance was never an issue but rather performance per watts and therefore cooling/form factor...) than Mac, then, Mac sales will become again a tough sell for most.
It is truly remarkable that but a diminutive fraction of the populace comprehends this verity.
It was Elite 950 @ 23 WATTS (41.3 PPW) vs M3 1010 @ 25 WATTS (40.4 PPW) in Cinebench.
I doubt it going to substantially higher wattage variations in the other tests.
If Apple doesn't to worry, then they shouldn't
@@shitvideoquality4856 Qualcomm had the better Performance Per Watt in the Cinebench test.
Is there a specific benchmark focused on energy-efficient operations? (Not sure but I might have missed this in the comparisons)
I would be nice to see the differences with x86 and Apple ARM in this context.
Pcmark 10 I think.
Do we also see more Arm processor
In mini pc or Qualcomm also have more plans in Arm based computer.😮
Snapdragon X Elite ❤❤
If you mean desktop, that's not so important since on the desktop, Intel x86 are still the fastest and cheapest processors.
But I'm sure Qualcomm will be making an ARM chip for desktop eventually, for those super concerned about heat.
It will be interesting to see what happens when these chips are actually available in products.
Will come soon, in Summer:)
Even more important than performance: Will MSFT make such a well designed compatibility layer like Apple made?
The compatibility layer isn't that bad and works. The issue stems from the earlier chips which were all smartphone chips, which are far weaker than laptop chips
there are one right now, it's not the best, but it's good to a degree for now
What about all the Windows apps? How will they work on ARM? Will Microsoft introduce something similar to Rosetta for on the fly conversion from x86 to ARM, or will the ARM version of Windows only support ARM based apps? Thanks
Well, I doubt there is ARM windows port of Witcher 3
All the big name Windows software is already ported to ARM, except games. But gamers also largely use desktop CPUs, which have great cooling and don't really need ARM chips because they're still the fastest chips available, with big, beefy GPUs.
Is there any information about these chips for desktops?
They aren't for desktops, yet. x86 desktops kill these things in performance because they can do much better cooling.
I think a bigger question would be apps: Mac is sufficiently popular, especially amongst power users, to where it can force companies to make an ARM native solution. Uncertain if Windows has that leverage as it is a question of how many will buy computers with the X Elite, and is it worth their time. I assume if it compiles for the M line of chips it doesn't necessarily mean it will just be a plug and play for X Elite.
Windows is far more popular on the desktop than Mac, and with Microsoft backing ARM, we've already seen all the big software packages provide ARM versions. I believe all the game devs are going to be providing ARM versions soon, particularly indies like me.
Most internally developed business apps in the last decade are .Net or Java based, which are processor agnostic, so those aren't much of an issue. The biiig lagger here is going to be companies who make security and management software to sell to other business, and big corporations, who move super slowly. But consumers are not going to be a problem IMO.
what exactly are "power users"
@@TheSonoranSniper Expert users of particular feature rich applications, mainly. Quasi-expert users.
Thanks for the Speedometer benchmark, can you run the tests also on Linux?
Hackintosh community days after release: let’s make the ARM version of Mac work on ARM Windows computers!
That's exactly what i thought 😂. They made ryzen hackintosh so why not arm hackintosh ? It will be hard but surely it's possible. Some guys installed Android on iPhone (with checkra1n) so why not ?
Wish to see some retail products at Computex this year.
Were the Snapdragons plugged in when the benchmarks ran ?
They probably where. However, 23W power draw for the entire system is absolutely no issue to be consistently delivered from battery
Interesting and useful video!
thanks for info, great news
And the price will be?
At the moment I think Snapdragon is going after Intel/AMD laptop market more than Apple.
It looks promising as a development but is the integration of hardware and software comparable with able? And if not, when do they expect to reach that level. Because then it would be an interesting alternative foor me.
Why compare most benchmarks with M2, not M3? Also which M2 / M3 version?
Would love to know if Qualcomm is working having first class Linux support as Intel does. Without full linux driver support while impressive this is irrelevant for software developers, however, if there is support I would think we would have for the first time in 4 years competition to Mac for developers.
And knowing the Qualcomm history in this regard, I wouldn't hold my breath
Imagine an RTX 4070 with these Xelite cpus. In a laptop.
I can't wait to get this kind of power at low wattage in mini PCs too.
But how many cores are they benchmarking ? How many cores does the M3 have, or the Snapdragon ? Are they comparing similar levels of SKUs ?
Problem is, M3 has been out in products you can buy for a while and we're still waiting for the very first laptop, tablet, anything with the Qualcomm chip. It looks like a decent chip but there's plenty of work to do. They'll need to execute flawlessly to ensure it's relevant on the market. Ultimately this first chip will lose money, you'd think. They'll need to iterate it quickly and maybe the second or third gen chip will be a big success. I wish them well, the added competition is very welcome.
The Intel products were out before M1 came out also.
End of the day, more competition, better for us consumers.
@@blinblinthing No Intel Meteor Lake only came out at the end of last years, years after M1 launched.
@@lairdinho I didn't mention meteor lake, I'm just saying Intel products were out before M1, meaning, just thinking you shouldn't worry because brand x is out first isn't an accurate statement.
They will need windows support and app support to make it happen. Even if it's better and faster if the programs are not there it's not gonna help.
@@robertbolzicco9995 Some good emulation would help. Apple silicon Macs run old x86 code surprisingly well.
M3 Max comparison is needed, it's not fair to compare elite and ultra chips to base M3
M chip is not available for Windows so the real interest is the comparison in term of power and consumption between an Intel 14th gen and the ARM version. That is what consumer wants to know. In term of comparing with Apple, first, Apple has no hybrid like a Surface. And speaking only of laptop then, the question will be to see what offers a 1700$ Samsung Galaxy Book Edge 4 with this Snapdragon compared to a 512go, 16Go of RAM 1700$ 14" Apple Mac. What chip do you have in a Mac Pro for this price? M3 Ultra?
ofc Apple has no ""hybrid" because that's just stupid beyond imagination, and it shows when you try it out.
the real Problem is the windows and PC ecosystem which will die imo.
running apps in arm will nowhere near rosetta i guarantee you that.
and this is the elephant in the room.
i see no future for windows, intel, nvidia or AMD, they are all dead long term.@@jeanbaptistelabelle
@jeanbaptistelabelle Mac Pro have at least M3 Pro chip.. not the basic M3, and wih 50% more cores even the M3 Pro will perform better like the regular M3.. (and with M2 vs M2 Pro the diff is even higher), and remember in their announcement event they just hided the comparison against the M2 Max.. and actually now the M2 Max has about the same price tag like the M3 Pro..
Sure, you want compare a 6000€ M3 Max vs an Snapdragon X Elite looool
Whats wrong with you?!
@@richi2870 So how much is the Snapdragon X Elite?
Question here:
Does it perform the same when unplugged from the wall?
We got to learn about the performance of X Elite with Battery & about the long run on intensive tasks :) I really liked it's performance with Davinci Resolve :) Awesome & Thanks :)
Haha love how Snapdragon laptop looks almost like a MacBook (those stickers though!)
You can argue that just about any laptop looks like another laptop you've seen before
Snapdragon X Elite ❤❤
Put it in a Razer laptop and it will look even more like a MacBook
I love how apple laptops are used to brows the internet and people just eat them up for word and Facebook.
😂🤣
Put that chip in a handheld!
But how hot does it get? Battery life in windows?
I’m excited for ARM chips to make their way to handheld gaming PCs someday and what kind of performance and battery life we might be able to get out of them.
9:24 You have to use the same web browser, this comparison makes no sense.
This is the reason why the M1 laptop is selling for 700 dollars at best buy and Walmart. Great job Qualcomm hope you continue making such great chips going forward.
It looks like they also flew Alex Ziskind to this junket. I'm looking forward to his testing when Qualcomm finally releases these for real world testing.
AMDs new laptop chips also have 45 TOPs, as this is the new baseline required by MSFT for Windows 12. Also AMDs GPUs should blow both Intel and Qualcomm out of the water.
But at how many watts? Qualcomm will sip power while the AMD will use significantly more power leading to much shorter battery life while unplugged.
@@fidelisitor8953 Both are 15W class with a cTPD.
X86 is NOT in general less efficient than Arm, now that Arm too is being scaled from embedded and Phones up to laptops, desktop and server compute.
The instruction set balloons and gets less efficient if you scale it to high performance compute no matter if Arm, X86 or any other even like RISC-V.
Latest arch from AMD can scale from low power mobile up to 400W+ server.
The real efficiency savings come from accelerators like NPUs, hardware codecs, vector instructions and GPU compute.
And there, all players are now in 2024 much more comparable than even a few months ago.
@@TDCIYB77 "X86 is NOT in general less efficient than Arm" - If that's so then how the hell does Apple's M3 max match AMD's R9 7945HX performance while using less than half the power draw? M3 max uses 50W to produce same performance as the 125W R9 7945HX so that clearly proves that ARM is significantly more efficient than x86.
@@fidelisitor8953 I am talking about the general instruction sets, and you pick 2 specific models, from 2 specific vendors, with 2 very specific implementation of their respective instruction sets.
What "performance" do you mean? Normalized to what?
As i said, real world performance of Apples (and most other vendors today) chips is NOT achieved through some mystical non existent advantage of Arm vs X86.
But by custom ASICs for codecs, vector math/NPU/GPU compute.
And this is exactly where the gap has closed in 2024.
NOT by CPU compute on Arm cores.
Not that hard to understand.
On top, while Apples lead CPU designers have left to Nuvia and now Qualcomm, leaving Apples IPC improvements lackluster since M1, AMD has consistently delivered higher IPC increases, while also enabling 512 Vector and NPU compute.
Arm only locked like a better ISA because Intels lack of innovation and AMD was no competition due to lack of cash until a few years ago.
The only benefit Arm brings is a license that is a bit more open than X86, and thus enabling new players to compete.
But with Moores Law being dead in a traditional sense, its accelerators and accelerators ONLY where performance innovation can still happen.
The ISA is basically irrelevant outside of licensing.
With enough R&D and software support one could make a competitive RISC-V laptop class chip in 5 years.
@@fidelisitor8953 isnt that also because apple m3 use smaller architecture?
X86 is not going anywhere yet 😂
It all comes down to compatibility. Will all the software developers rewrite their apps for Qualcomm's chip? Will MS Office be hobbled like it is on Apple Silicon?
Office is already ported. IT's not hobbled, unless some extension you use isn't ported. Most existing "big name" Windows software is already ported.
Looking forward to Android tablets with the newer Qualcomm SoCs.
All hail Apple for taking ARM to where it should be. However, the heating issue persists.
Thats an apple issue
Windows on arm won't have that
Let the Linux kernel fix this issue in the futur for linux users ;) However, Snapdragon makes ARM cpu's everyday since long long time...Snapdragon knows ARM better than Apple. Just a thing...I don't know why Snapdragon didn't come to the PC market sooner and destroy the X86. They've been capable of it for a long time, I think.
@@xritics19 Snapdragon (and Mediatek for that matter) do have products in laptop market...as Chromebooks. The problem is that if you want to release products to PC market you need big-name OS behind you, and for the longest time Windows on ARM was quite a joke, and people only use ChromeOS (much less ARM version of ChromeOS) when they _have_ to. Apple, on the other hand, have users that would buy it even if they switched their architecture from the ground up, as proven by the PowerPC to x86 switch way back when.
Stick it in a steam deck please
My only concern is compatibility with current windows x86 programs. I wish that was covered more along with any pitfalls.
Snapdragon X Elite Laptop ❤❤💪🔥
Snapdragon X Elite at 80W demonstrating how inefficient it is 5:15
That is for the complete system, not the chip.
It was Elite 950 @ 23 WATTS vs M3 1010 @ 25 WATTS (Which isn't inefficient)
Them showing a High performance (My Guess) mode beating Apple is more to show, if you wanted more performance, you can get it.
That's not the chip ,that's the whole laptop
23 wat also
By dividing the performance by W, the Snapdragon X Elite obtains 2.3% more performance per consumption compared to the M3, that is good I guess But as you use more W, the performance per W begins to decrease.
Nice. More competition is always better
What laptop was the X Elite put in?
Wait for the elite x2 for the 100 tops npu on 3nm node.😊
Snapdragon X Elite ❤❤
Performance per watt is the only metric that matters in most of these tests.
In performance per watt the X Elite beats the M3 and M3 Pro
@@Pasi123 It’s a shame that we won’t have a proper review by an outlet like anandtech to know for certain.
@@Pasi123 Without a comprehensive test there is no way to know that. It’s interesting that the X Elite makes little mention of single core performance. I think it’s clear why.
Wasn't single core performance mentioned at the end of the video.@@davidtodd2104
But not for desktops
My biggest excitement for this is that this would be perfect for a handheld gaming PC if windows becomes more optimized for that form factor. oh man, a powerful ARM handheld that can run windows games would be the dream with performance and power efficiency for longer battery life
It’s nice to see that competition is finally coming to the SOC RISC market
Nice hardware on paper, but they don't even have a product (notebook) available in the market. Meanwhile Apple already released three generations of highly integrated systems with optimized software. How does Qualcomm want to catch up exactly?
They was always behind Apple with a few years (even now when most people compare the wrong generarions.. just because SD8G3 is not the A17 competitor, just when Samsung pissed into his pants, and relocsted an renaned the Note, everyone lost the tracking.. if the S24U still called to Note 24 and still release with the iPhone 16, it would be harder to fool the sheeps to compare it only with the iPhone 15..)
So they can solve this with the same way like they always did, shorter software support (even if they started to promise the 7 years for the new purchased phones, Apple aleady done the 8 years OS update cycle, iPhone 6S from 2015 still got the iOS 15.8 security update at Oct 2023, which is more than 8 years away from Sept 2015...)
70% of the population can't afford MacBooks so I'm pretty sure Windows will find a way to optimize everything for the new snapdragon anyways it'll take some time but it'll probably be quicker than expected
@@TamasKiss-yk4st They aren't behind. Snapdragon 8G3 is faster than the A17 in some areas
So the ThinkPad X13s does not exist in your timeline?
Apple released its first generation Apple silicon and beat intel who's been in the game for 40+ years so them releasing 3 gens doesn't mean Qualcomm can't overtake them. Besides this 1st gen Qualcomm chip is already competing with Apples latest M3 and M3 pro chips. All the X Elite needs is some good app/software optimizations and it's off to a flying start.
R.I.P *Intel* and all *Macs* that running *BootCamp*
yes Snapdragon X Elite ❤❤
I'll believe windows on ARM beating x86 when I see it. Microsoft has dropped the ball with ARM for more than a decade. The original ARM surface is 12 years old. It's not Qualcomm that's preventing it from succeeding, it's Microsoft consistently dropping the ball.
@@Ilost11yup! Microsoft will drop it the moment it doesn’t sell as “expected”
😂😂😂
I think its great that there is more competition and kicking ass. Apple stil has one advantage, the optimisation of HW and SW, where the Snapdragon for now will have to do with whatever MS brings to the party.
MS is most valuable company in the world. They have unlimited resources to do this
@@jakejoyride MS is not the valuable company, but they do have a lot of resources. The question is if they want to allocate these to that.
VS compilation comparison will depend on what the target is.
I am pretty sure snapdragon X elite was meant to compete with the M3 not the M3 series at all. Also, M3 series is 3nm which is why it would have an advantage over snapdragon X Elite in terms of efficiency and single core performance.
has snapdragon x elite 4 nanometers?
RIP x86 indeed!!!
Is that NPU number total chip TOPS or NPU only?
Would be a lot less fishy if they compared their product to the actual leader in X86 chips for the same market: the 8840U from AMD.
Would be really interesting to see LLM inference perf vs Apple laptops.
So basically M3 Pro > Snapdragon X Elite
Finally, hopefully the end for old, slow and power hungry Intel and AMD x86 cpus on pcs as well.
Would be very interested in a desktop, higher end version of this like Apple does with their Ultra versions. I'd still wait for a laptop that had comparable build quality to MacBook Pros before I considered it. I'll be keeping my M3 Max for a few years.
What's the point of arm if it need dgpu?
It is worth saying that this chip was created by Apple engineers who left the company with the knowledge and sold it for billions. All in all, it's an Apple processor under a different name.
😂😂😂
Very true, it’s literal Apple Technology
Not true, only a few people come from apple!
@@richi2870 A few people who had knowledge. Key people.
@@mamam7743 No, the most work is from snapdragon and selfmade dont talk bullshiit.
x86 is over... it has 4-5 years of life remaining maximum.
why dont u say the wattage of the processor(sd). there at a 23 and 80 w options. u only mrntion in one test... pls?
I don't mind using arm or x86, but I would never use a laptop without EFI or something similar. How can I install Linux on it without another computer?
Haha will destroy apple
Low quality bait 😂
@@ryoji4200 not really this video literally showed it destroyed 3nm m3 pro will still using 4nm
Per core basis, apple wins. 12C snapdragon X elite = 8C M2
@@Lubenggazzi That may be the case. If the laptops with the Snapdragon don't go along with this idiocy with the memory prices and SSD surcharges and offer better equipped devices for lower prices, Apple will lose. They are already suffering a significant drop in Mac sales. They're still wondering where that's coming from. Anyone can tell you that it's Apple's incredible greed, a profit margin of 900% for an upgrade step.
@@ruhri0411yeah apple tax go brrrr
What happened to the Freescale patents? Did you help take down 370?
hope windows for ARM can perform well
I hope they make something in the form factor of an asus g14 or razer blade 14". Just a small form factor ARM based laptop with a dedicated gpu (perhaps an rtx 4050 or 4060), which you could carry around for day to day tasks without worrying about battery (thanks to ARM), and then sit down to game whenever you have access to an outlet.
Our GPUs currently will unfortunately always use a ton of battery power. I'm more interested in external GPUs for at home and cloud gaming getting better for when out and about.
Just finished Juan Bagnell's video on this. 0:28 lol and there's the back of his head next to TK'S, on the right side of the table.
Was hoping it will at least match my M2 Pro in 3D rendering tasks. Hope they can further optimize the chip along the road.
What you are talking about? It's faster than M2 pro
Can't wait to see a model specialized for gaming !
Can't wait to get my hands on an x elite gen 2.
For those curious about X elite systems, if I recall correctly, Qualcomm planned to release some systems in partnership with other brands by the end of this month... or may
I hope they'll give us real OpenGL and Vulkan drivers, and not rely on a translation to DirectX 12. On my Surface Pro X, that translation layer completely mangles the colors.
The GPU driver on the Surface Pro X driver also doesn't support WSL-G without a weird hack that you have to repeat each time there's a driver update.
I want to see this in something like the Surface Go line
The Apple M3 is using TSMC 3nm while Qualcomm Snapdragon X Elite is using TSMC 4nm which is really advanced 5nm.
The performance improvement from M2 to M3 from Apple is not good, I was expecting more with the move from 4nm to 3nm.
Microsoft Project Volterra was exactly what Windows on ARM developers needed. The Snapdragon offers way more performance than previous attempts so tings will only get better.
It is exciting to have all these choices now.
X Elite is Gen 1
Even if it isn't as strong as the M3, I just hope it is generally more affordable. If we can get around M1 or M2-performance for a much better bang-for-buck, then I will be buying that laptop in a heartbeat.
hear me out, a new ARM based surface go can be the perfect ipad air alternative if the chips are really as good as these tests prove, and I have high hopes that they are.
This is a game changer, but it drains a lot of battery on the intels. I'm interested in the Mac M2-3, but it's expensive, and since we use Windows at work and there are more games available on Windows than Mac, I'm considering waiting for the Ultra 185 instead. It might be better for video encoding, so I'll wait to get that one for sure.
While a Snapdragon X Elite may do some benchmarks well, it runs Windows 11 ARM but most applications and games and Intel coded so while Windows 11 ARM can run 64-bit Intel code, the majority of the software out there, how does that run? And put the chip in a real laptop, how is the throttling? You have to come back to the real world when you test this option.
well... is the elite version the base version? otherwise, they should be comparing with the M2 ultra.
can this chip run on android OS?
I like the Vibe of this video way more than normal. It's a lot more relaxed, natural, and casual
I have a Desktop that will stay my main Workstation and Gaming Computer. But if had an Arm Work Laptop that had all my Programs with Apple Battery and Performance, that would be a dream.
We only have to wait a little more
Could windows for arm eventually mean the return of Bootcamp for mac users?