2021 Toyota Sienna Hybrid AWD Reviewed and Off-Road Trail Test (Sorry, not sorry.)

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024

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  • @taggartlittle570
    @taggartlittle570 8 месяцев назад +2

    This was fun to watch. We took ours on a 5000 mile camping trip with 2 teenage girls and all of their crap and tested the awd going on “not maintained for passenger vehicles” roads up the side of Humphrey peak in Arizona and up Red Grade into the Bighorn wilderness in Wyoming All of that and many miles over 100mph in Montana to make me and the oldest happy, and I still averaged 35mpg for the entire trip. We love this van!

    • @edburck
      @edburck 22 дня назад

      I appreciate this video and your much more recent experience. I'm taking delivery of a '24 XSE AWD Premium in three weeks as a single empty nester who happens to enjoy camping. I am buying this van specifically as both a daily driver and a road trip and camping van.

  • @garrettw99
    @garrettw99 3 года назад +126

    The “eCVT” is not a CVT at all. Has almost nothing to do with a normal CVT because it is a planetary gear set. Much less moving parts and much more reliable than a CVT. The power delivery is much more linear on the eCVT than a CVT. However, you still get a decent amount of engine noise. If you don’t mind the engine noise, Toyota’s eCVT is an extremely good transmission and one of the most reliable ever made.

    • @CJ-zz9ts
      @CJ-zz9ts 2 года назад +3

      Its an eVT

    • @americandude3825
      @americandude3825 2 года назад

      So is it a ecvt or etv becuase every vehicle I’ve looked at the last two months at Toyota has ecvt written on the window sticker

    • @garrettw99
      @garrettw99 2 года назад +6

      @@americandude3825 eCVT. Only hybrids have an eCVT. The regular ICE cars have either CVT or traditional transmissions or dual clutch.

    • @sudeeptaghosh
      @sudeeptaghosh 2 года назад +5

      And that 40% efficient Atkinson cycle engine .. love it

    • @noblekitty
      @noblekitty 2 года назад +2

      CVT stands for continuously variable transmission. The eCVT, no matter the design, is a CVT because it doesn't shift in steps/speed like traditional transmission manual or auto. Yes, normal CVT, the one that uses a belt connecting 2 cones shape, has bad rep for reliability. That's why Toyota wants to clearify that theirs CVTs using in hybrids are different, eCVT. Note that Toyota do use the regular design CVTs in their non hybrid models too.

  • @Chris-ut6eq
    @Chris-ut6eq 3 года назад +4

    Thanks for the hill climb. This kind of thing was exactly what I wanted to see so thumbs-up!

  • @SIGINT007
    @SIGINT007 3 года назад +13

    Huh. Now I want to see the lifted version…not too shabby.

  • @DROC9169
    @DROC9169 3 года назад +8

    I have been looking forward to this video since you took the photo of the Sienna on rocks! Thank you. I wonder what downhill would have been like if you use the adaptive cruise control and set it to 5 mph.

  • @johndorrell1
    @johndorrell1 3 года назад

    Those who are ignorant about Toyota Hybrid Synergy Drive and Toyota hybrids, like you, should not be spreading misinformation as you do in this video. The Sienna, like all hybrid Toyotas, does indeed combine the ICE gas engine power with not one, but two electric motors in the eCVT transmission. The third electric motor in the rear is how Toyota has chosen to provide AWD capability, in lieu of the more traditional transfer case and drive shaft from the front to the rear. The presence of the third electric motor in the rear for AWD does make the Hybrid Synergy Drive an "assist hybrid system" as you so mistakenly call it.

    • @drivingsports
      @drivingsports  3 года назад

      It sounds to me like you didn’t actually watch the video. Or at least you didn’t understand it. Any system that is not AWD all the time is an “assist system.” One of the electric motors in the transmission is solely for generating power. It provides no drive. So we don’t really talk about it much because it’s like getting excited over an alternator.

  • @Paulygoku
    @Paulygoku 3 года назад +5

    Toyota we need a 3 inch lift sienna

  • @metalman69201
    @metalman69201 2 года назад

    Journeys Off-Road makes a 3-inch lift kit for this 2021 Sienna hybrid. I will definitely be lifting mine!

  • @JimmyT89
    @JimmyT89 3 года назад +1

    I'll go crazy with that navigation

  • @FantomLightning
    @FantomLightning 3 года назад +5

    I've been very dismissive of Toyotas EAWD system simply because I can't get over how stupid it is to go for an undersized rear electric motor versus one that can put something more like 50%+ of the power to the rear. However I'm very impressed with the system in this and what appears to be far better software tuning in the Sienna than other models. Considering the physical AWD Pacifica couldn't pass a roller test I'm very impressed with this.

    • @meenam300zx
      @meenam300zx 2 года назад

      But Pacifica has several advantages, much better and comfortable seats for long drives, stow away second seat which will instantly turn Pacifica to a cargo van or easy conversion to RV. With 2021 Toyota, they have air bags on the second row seats and very difficult to remove them. If you do remove them, Toyota voids your entire car warranty.

    • @steveh8724
      @steveh8724 2 года назад

      @@meenam300zx Yes, but if you live in an area with 4 seasons and hills, you really want 4WD. And Chrysler abandoned that years ago for their fold-away 2nd row seating. And therefore I abandoned Chrysler. So for me, looks like I'll be going to Sienna Hybrid after totaling my 2019 with a solid deer hit that blew all the airbags.

    • @chubbysumo2230
      @chubbysumo2230 Год назад

      @@meenam300zx toyota cannot void your entire warranty because you removed the seats, that is literally against the law. look up the magnuson-moss warranty act. I removed my mid row seats to use my sienna for delivery full time, and the dealer that was working on it up until its 125k mileage cut didn't say one word about voiding my warranty because the seats weren't in it. they would have to prove how my removing the seats caused whatever issue was presenting(in my case, it was bad alignment due to a bad bushing). yea, we have consumer protection laws for that.

  • @trieunguyen5897
    @trieunguyen5897 3 года назад

    I am going get 3 inches lifted and AT tires with this beast, it is the most practical/fuel efficient going anywhere car.

  • @rromancunard
    @rromancunard 3 года назад

    Excellent video, very complete, thanks a lot. The Toyota Sienna for me win for comfortable, all wheel drive and economy without be bassic.
    🙏🏼👍🏼Thanks again for share.

  • @tonyle7311
    @tonyle7311 3 года назад

    Great job man, you earned one subscript from me because i was alway wondering how the 21’ Sienna AWD handle off-road? I am glad that i made a decision on my purchase of 21” Sienna AWD limited

  • @holeshot1721
    @holeshot1721 Год назад

    Good luck getting one! 48k is so unrealistic with financing this vehicle cost 80k -to $100 k all said and done. I own one and did shopping for this. Unless you have the 59k cash that it does cost after taxes

  • @bwnusephoto
    @bwnusephoto 2 года назад

    Great van for the most part. The biggest fail Toyota made with this van is offering a tow package, but not fully thinking this option through. You can’t back a trailer up without having to fumble through the system menu and turning the backup radar assistant or the van won’t allow you to backup because it’s picking up the trailer. They should have provided a simple push button to turn off this feature when you’re towing a trailer. It’s a major pain having to go into the menu and scroll through settings to turn the backup radar off every time you turn the van off and back on. Not very practical and a major shortfall.

  • @0HOON0
    @0HOON0 3 года назад +2

    I want this drivetrain in the 4Runner!

    • @ivanlowjones
      @ivanlowjones 3 года назад

      A CVT in a 4Runner rather defeats its purpose, don't you think?

    • @0HOON0
      @0HOON0 3 года назад +2

      @@ivanlowjones As long as it's durable and still has a low range, a CVT isn't the end of the world. Imagine a truly capable 4x4 that still gets 28mpg or so.

    • @ivanlowjones
      @ivanlowjones 3 года назад

      @@0HOON0
      Name me one SUV especially a body on frame similar to the 4Runner that's built specifically for offroading, that has a CVT. Even the new hybrid Jeep Wrangler and upcoming Ford Bronco hybrid have 8 or 10 speed automatic transmissions.

  • @riderNdriver
    @riderNdriver 2 года назад

    2022 Toyota Sienna Woodland edition is out at the dealers. A friendly reminder 🙂

    • @drivingsports
      @drivingsports  2 года назад +2

      Still waiting for Toyota to send one for testing.

  • @RayWolfwinski
    @RayWolfwinski 3 года назад

    I watched this to see the view from the GoPro before it was destroyed. I'm disappointed that you did not put that clip in.

    • @drivingsports
      @drivingsports  3 года назад +1

      Unfortunately the camera didn’t successfully save the clip.

    • @RayWolfwinski
      @RayWolfwinski 3 года назад

      @@drivingsports such a shame, but understandable.
      I did find a company that makes a lift kit for the new Sienna that gives it over 10in of ground clearance.

  • @niship8765
    @niship8765 11 месяцев назад

    Ibwant to use this to build a mini camper to travel the US, Canada, and maybe Mexico!

  • @mtn1793
    @mtn1793 2 года назад

    I wonder how hard it would be to put a lift kit and larger tires on a minivan?

  • @QSL.
    @QSL. Год назад

    Thanks, that's all I needed@

  • @danieldinnell4944
    @danieldinnell4944 Год назад

    Maybe, get a higher profile 17" tire and get another half inch clearance

  • @saramae9878
    @saramae9878 3 года назад +1

    That was surprising

  • @ocwaveoc69
    @ocwaveoc69 3 года назад

    I don't understand guys like this who complains about dated infotainment on Toyota when vast majority of people will use Apple car play and Android auto.

  • @AdiGV
    @AdiGV 2 года назад

    why is back-seat folded area so clustered unlike Odyssey and Town & Country?

  • @wenqingtsu
    @wenqingtsu 3 года назад +11

    just watched the TFL folks drag racing the Sienna vs Odyssey and now I am watching someone taking a Sienna off-road. 21st century van shopping for a dad of 2

    • @aertime-
      @aertime- 2 месяца назад +1

      What did you go with? Any regrets?

  • @iwfur25
    @iwfur25 3 года назад +118

    Keep in mind Toyota's hybrid "CVT" isn't the belt/chain kind of CVT. I think it's a misnomer to even call it CVT but whatever. The main electric drive motor (or motors w/AWD) are direct drive to the wheels. Google it. The gas engine can vary it's RPM based on power demand so yes you get the noise of the engine at a steady RPM but not the fragility of (some) of the belt/chain style ones. Also the engine redline tends to be lower, I think the Rav4 hybrid is like 4500 RPM so it's never "that bad". I suspect everyone who gets Toyota hybrid gets over it pretty quick.

    • @ppmnox
      @ppmnox 3 года назад +13

      after 2 years of ownership I can vouch that it was never that intrusive

    • @disophisis
      @disophisis 3 года назад +7

      I believe the new Ford Maverick has a similar style CVT. Beltless, anyway.

    • @HighPowerXH
      @HighPowerXH 3 года назад +16

      Yes, it's a eCVT (bad name IMO) and I'm tired of hearing reviews calling it a CVT

    • @alanmay7929
      @alanmay7929 3 года назад +3

      I think it also has a first physical gear.

    • @johnjames7712
      @johnjames7712 3 года назад +15

      @@alanmay7929 the Toyota Hybrid eCVT does not have a physical first gear.

  • @PWCDN
    @PWCDN 3 года назад +25

    Not gonna lie, this van is on my radar. This off-road review is just icing on the cake and an unexpected surprise (thank you). I don't have kids, I really just want a cargo mover for outdoor activities/camping with potential for 7 passengers in the city and all the crossovers are underwhelming for the price when you compare pound for pound what this van can do, comfort for 7 adults/cargo size + fuel efficiency. I won't be hauling plywood or dry wall, so the non-removable 2nd row doesn't affect me.

  • @JOHNch4.v.v.7to10
    @JOHNch4.v.v.7to10 3 года назад +2

    A minivan without removable 2nd row seats. Sorry, but that's stupid. I'm out.
    With Toyota's access to top notch engineers, you cannot tell me that they couldn't have figured out how to have the 2nd row seat air bags that would have an adapter/plug, with which the owner could easily disconnect (disengage) and reconnect (engage) so as to easily remove/install the seats.
    SIMPLY INEXCUSABLE.

  • @johnvargas7845
    @johnvargas7845 3 года назад +56

    Of course we want to see it going off road, that's why we clicked on this video. Nice review thanks!

  • @OneBaldingWookiee
    @OneBaldingWookiee 3 года назад +75

    Ryan getting excited about the off-roading capabilities of this minivan 🤣. I actually can’t wait to see the Woodland edition now.

  • @cafn8ed74
    @cafn8ed74 3 года назад +34

    My first thought at 20:00 when you dismissed the more reasonable of us and said that you were taking the minivan off road was "OK, folks Schadenfreude time." I have to admit, though, that watching a hybrid minivan hang a wheel as it climbs a rocky ascent and then keep going with minimal drama was pretty impressive.

    • @ohioguy4326
      @ohioguy4326 3 года назад +8

      Did pretty good considering it has the ground clearance of a camry, next lets see an AWD camry off road test.

    • @dawood2u
      @dawood2u 2 года назад

      🤣

  • @RandyArellano
    @RandyArellano 3 года назад +116

    That is pretty damn impressive for a "road-going" minivan AND hybrid!

    • @rightlanehog3151
      @rightlanehog3151 3 года назад +3

      Indeed.

    • @James-il3tq
      @James-il3tq 3 года назад +5

      Same E-AWD 8n my 2019 RAV4 hybrid XSE. I do a lot of camping in the bushes and am thoroughly impressed! Factory all seasons are no good offroad as expected. Once they wore out bought Falken Wildpeak AT Trail tires (come on RAV4 Trail/Adventure models) and wow gravel/offroads now sooo much better while adding a smoother ride (especially over potholes, uneven pavement). Handling worse as expected but overall improvement by far (and very minimal tire noise).

  • @anthonyjackson8857
    @anthonyjackson8857 3 года назад +7

    Dear god in heaven PLEASE let this be the start of something new with minivans🙏 I mean, a half an inch of lift isnt much, but it's at least a start- and with all wheel drive and a hybrid powertrain that yields mpg in the mid thirties, I'm real happy- but I'd LOVE to see some INTENTIONALLY rugged minivans start being designed from the FACTORY to appeal to something more than just the soccer mom segment. I've got a 27 year old all wheel drive high top chevy astro that I lifted and put on all terrains, and that thing does pretty decent offroad for something that wasn't designed to do it- and I actually get compliments on it all the time and even people offering to BUY it from me!Imagine if a few manufacturers actually started TRYING to make minivans a little more rugged and appealing? Nothing too crazy, just maybe some decent styling for a change and a little more than 7 inches of ground clearance... maybe 8 and a half? Or... dare I say it... 9?! *gasp*😬
    I get it- long wheel bases make for crappy break over angles, but hell- the astro wheel base ain't crazy long, but somehow it seats 8! I'd LOVE to see something like that and with a hybrid powertrain!
    Come on car makers-There is ABSOLUTELY a market for it! Please make it happen🤞

  • @disophisis
    @disophisis 3 года назад +37

    I live in the rocky mountain area and the number of mini vans I see parked miles up crappy roads is pretty crazy. People expect a lot of these things.

    • @Atomb
      @Atomb 3 года назад +9

      Go to Africa and see what they can do with a Corolla!

    • @superlight47
      @superlight47 3 года назад +1

      @@Atomb I am interesting to know. Do you mind to share some of it here?

    • @Atomb
      @Atomb 3 года назад +8

      @@superlight47 I spent time in Cameroon and went into villages that were miles and miles off any paved/graded road. There were tons of Corollas in places most North American's wouldn't take their pick up. The city of Douala had pot holes bigger than cars and it was a torture test for any vehicle. Tons of old Toyotas there. I took very few pictures there as having an $1000 camera hanging off your neck wasn't wise.

    • @superlight47
      @superlight47 3 года назад

      @@Atomb very interesting experience.

    • @PWCDN
      @PWCDN 3 года назад +2

      @@Atomb my uncle has a tiny Suzuki hatchback (FWD) at his cottage off some island in Greece where it is rocky/gravel roads on incline off the main streets (literally look like the ones in this video). I was amazed what he can do with that vehicle off-road. I came to realize, off-road is as much about the lightness of your vehicle than the drive-train's capabilities. This van is truly remarkable considering it is super heavy.

  • @anthonyjackson8857
    @anthonyjackson8857 3 года назад +101

    Is it just me, or did this actually perform BETTER offroad than the rav4 hybrid did?!👀👀👀
    VERY impressive

    • @TheBMurda
      @TheBMurda 3 года назад +9

      Makes sense as its electric motors are more powerful!

    • @jiayaw
      @jiayaw 2 года назад +3

      I wonder how it would compare to the highlander hybrid

    • @darrelljourdan3687
      @darrelljourdan3687 2 года назад +4

      ​@@TheBMurda Betting the extra 3/4 ton of weight helps a bit more than the electric, but torque is definitely your friend!!!

  • @17IFTnyc
    @17IFTnyc 3 года назад +131

    This is beyond expectations. Can't believe the Sienna claimed that trail with relative ease

    • @LetmeTellyou11
      @LetmeTellyou11 3 года назад +4

      I have a 2WD 2016 sienna and got caught in couple of pretty bad blizzards driving in Utah. I thought we would be in pretty bad shape but surprisingly it handled it pretty well and we made it without any problems.

    • @whoawoahh
      @whoawoahh 3 года назад

      @@LetmeTellyou11 did you guys do

    • @imnotusingmyrealname4566
      @imnotusingmyrealname4566 3 года назад +4

      You don't need a TRX for every hill...

    • @garrettw99
      @garrettw99 3 года назад +4

      I think the squishy tires and torque from the electric motors made a big difference.

    • @imnotusingmyrealname4566
      @imnotusingmyrealname4566 3 года назад +1

      @@garrettw99 A V6 minivan wouldn't have had a problem either. Toyota just doesn't offer that anymore sadly.

  • @veganpotterthevegan
    @veganpotterthevegan 3 года назад +28

    Definitely want this even more now. Supposedly, the lifted version has more offroad tricks than just having better ground clearance

    • @tony7044
      @tony7044 2 года назад +8

      You can purchase a 2" or 3" lift kit for the base model, no need to upgrade to the woodland which runs you wayyyy more money.

    • @veganpotterthevegan
      @veganpotterthevegan Месяц назад

      ​@@tony7044 don't get a Journeys kit. Their welders are terrible

  • @frankpai1827
    @frankpai1827 3 года назад +14

    This Sienna AWD off road test is what I was looking for a long time and finally there is. Thanks!

  • @keithcharles2113
    @keithcharles2113 3 года назад +18

    Great review! Felt thorough, honest and unbiased. I loved the pic of the right front wheel in the air! That position has been a failure point in a lot of AWD systems. I was surprised it got enough power to the rear wheels to get itself unstuck. The only sticking question in my mind is could the van still pull off that trick with 1200 pounds of family and cargo onboard?

  • @mattl5238
    @mattl5238 3 года назад +15

    Like to see that sidewall on a new car, looks a little out of place these days but so much better for everyday driving…and off-road

  • @Bronzebk
    @Bronzebk 3 года назад +1

    Toyota continues to have some of the worst backup cameras anywhere.
    It's unreal that such a company continues to put out such a crappy the low grade piece of garbage.
    Get with the times Toyota. WTH!

  • @thewanderingmariner
    @thewanderingmariner 3 года назад +12

    Great video! I have had my 2021 Sienna for 6 months and have already placed 15,000 miles on it! I am pleased with the performance, but the noise from the engine in acceleration does suck. Otherwise, great vehicle. I use the sienna for deliveries and do a lot of city driving. I have averaged 40-41 MPG! 😁😁😁 Again, great... honest.... and on point review.

    • @mnelson505
      @mnelson505 3 года назад +1

      Any regrets with the sienna so far? I'm debating between it and the Odyssey.

    • @hassankhan
      @hassankhan 2 года назад

      @@mnelson505 Did you decided which one to buy? I'm thinking what if there will be a 2023 Sienna AWD Prime Hybrid (meaning first 50 miles on pure electric like a prius?)

  • @Jeo-What
    @Jeo-What 3 года назад +9

    Soooo glade you have done the off road test to show how the E-AWD perform in real life driving. Look forward to the WoodLand review in the future. well done.

  • @camzimmer6898
    @camzimmer6898 3 года назад +13

    You missed two of the best features-super slide second row seats that allow 6’5”+ folks to fit easily and a 1500w plug in the back that uses the hybrid battery to power almost anything you can throw at it.

    • @edwardzdankiewicz9068
      @edwardzdankiewicz9068 3 года назад

      I think the 1500W plug is only an option on top, platinum trim.

    • @camzimmer6898
      @camzimmer6898 3 года назад +1

      @@edwardzdankiewicz9068 Not sure if this is the case everywhere, but in Canada it’s in the Technology package which you can start adding in the XSE level.

    • @occckid123
      @occckid123 3 года назад +2

      He did slide the 2nd row far and said you can adjust it forward 2 a confirms position 4 middle and rear folks

    • @camzimmer6898
      @camzimmer6898 3 года назад +1

      @@occckid123 Awesome. I definitely missed that but am glad he included it. I’m 6’6”, my wife’s 6’ and my kids are both going to be taller than us. It’s an important feature for us.

    • @raiseup151z
      @raiseup151z 3 года назад

      @@edwardzdankiewicz9068 I am in Virginia and bought 2021 Sienna XLE and it has the power inverter. 1 in the trunk and 1 in the moddle

  • @RobBernhard
    @RobBernhard 3 года назад +26

    The fact that you can't remove the middle seats is bizarre to me. In my mind it partially defeats the purpose of having a minivan in the first place.

    • @RobBernhard
      @RobBernhard 3 года назад +4

      @DavidRC thanks for the info. I did not realize they added seat air bags to the second row in addition to the existing curtains.

    • @philklein2
      @philklein2 3 года назад +5

      See Brad Ling youtube video about removing the seats. With lifted Woodland edition and superior AWD, sounds like great outdoor campervan vehicle.

    • @luperon
      @luperon 3 года назад

      @@philklein2 superior awd? How, only because of slight increase in clearance?

    • @joshuakurian5994
      @joshuakurian5994 3 года назад

      U could remove the seats in the 2011-2020 model sienna

  • @calebjc
    @calebjc 3 года назад +4

    Thumbs up. My only suggestion would be that when reviewing family cars like this do a test with all seats full of people in town and on the highway to see how passengers experience is.

  • @sandippatel8584
    @sandippatel8584 2 года назад +1

    It is baffling to me that Toyota made Sienna hybrid but not a plug-in-hybrid. I know it would have required addition charging parts , but it would have made it qualify for federal credit and thus reduced total cost for buyer.

  • @PatrickRich
    @PatrickRich 3 года назад +9

    You know what? Im impressed. Toyota seems to have stepped up their game in terms of programing their hybrid AWD.

    • @jeepindave5464
      @jeepindave5464 3 года назад

      Yeah i saw a highlander hybrid test a few years ago and it look pretty miserable.

  • @rightlanehog3151
    @rightlanehog3151 3 года назад +10

    Ryan, While it is true the Sienna is no longer as 'badass' as other minivans, I think the 35 (AWD) mpg achieved while mall crawling is worth the tradeoff. The retention of the 3,500 lbs tow capacity proves how much useful torque those electric motors provide at the same time they are doubling city fuel efficiency. Finally, your hill climb really leads to the question of why doesn't Toyota simply put more powerful electric motors on the rear axle of their AWD Hybrids?

    • @ppmnox
      @ppmnox 3 года назад +1

      more powerful motors, given the same relative efficiency, requires bigger, heavier batteries. as the efficiency of both increases I expect each to become more powerful.

    • @rightlanehog3151
      @rightlanehog3151 3 года назад +3

      @@ppmnox While more power is always nice, what I was trying to suggest is that Toyota might simply direct a higher percentage of existing electric power towards the back axle to create more of a RWD bias. As it is, the latest generation of their AWD Hybrid system as seen in the RAV4, Highlander and Sienna is still pretty impressive.

    • @chubbysumo2230
      @chubbysumo2230 Год назад

      @@rightlanehog3151 its still a 60hp/99tq motor, and there is no getting around that rating. also, remember, if its sending power to the rear, it cannot send it to the front, or its robbing power from the eCVT(acts as a generator when its less than a 1:1). If they sent more of the 243 combined HP to the rear, then there would be less for the front.

  • @raybandstone6643
    @raybandstone6643 3 года назад +1

    The vehicle is made for 7 seater, do this test with passengers..than it will be true analysis

  • @iduimovic
    @iduimovic 3 года назад +2

    Nice review, but I have to say Mini Van are a downer and should only be on the road for the specific use of bussing lots of people around. Now that dog pop color on a Mini Van it is the Cherry on top to make you run away from it.

  • @eddstarr2185
    @eddstarr2185 3 года назад +4

    You may a well admit it Ryan, between Caffe Ladro and an AWD Toyota Sienna hybrid that made the hill climb . . . Life is Good! 👍

  • @valdius85
    @valdius85 3 года назад +5

    This minivan should not be taken off-road.
    That is why I am so happy that you've done it! :)

  • @tony7044
    @tony7044 2 года назад +1

    I wonder why Toyota decided to give this such low ground clearance, especially with that long wheelbase. I have a '21 Sienna and opted for an aftermarket 3" lift. No more scraping the nose or tail on modest hill approaches, doors don't hit the curb when swung open, and it just looks so much better. I'm very happy with it sitting higher and still getting 34 mpg.

  • @TaskSwitcherify
    @TaskSwitcherify 3 года назад +1

    *You can buy a house in some states for the same $$$.* A HOUSE, a PLACE TO LIVE FOREVER. Do we really need an almost $50,000 minivan? Can't they make a $25,000 minivan without all the bells & whistles?

  • @warhmonger
    @warhmonger 3 года назад +2

    Mind blown.. I thought it fail the climb.. Let's Go Places!

  • @goochigoochs3836
    @goochigoochs3836 3 года назад +1

    Even Rolls Royce or S-Class armrest cannot be adjusted or removed. This guy is a supper nitpicker. Next, he will say Mazda Miata is a great fun car but cannot do off-road 😁

    • @drivingsports
      @drivingsports  3 года назад +3

      In a 30 minute video… that’s what you got out of it. 😂

  • @evgeniylukashov3575
    @evgeniylukashov3575 3 года назад +5

    Best vehicle for big family! Car of my dream! 😋

    • @0HOON0
      @0HOON0 3 года назад +1

      With the emissions of a compact!

    • @evgeniylukashov3575
      @evgeniylukashov3575 3 года назад +2

      @@0HOON0 🌳🌲☺️👍

  • @brettduffy7931
    @brettduffy7931 2 года назад +1

    You can drive Uber XL in a vehicle that would get over ex gas mileage keep your speed around 55 miles per hour you would probably get above 40

  • @chubbysumo2230
    @chubbysumo2230 3 года назад +1

    A little bit of misinformation in here, probably something you should clear up, the p810 transmission power unit that is in this, has two electric motors in the front, and there is an additional electric motor in the rear for the rear axle. The two Motors in the front, one is directly driving the final drive so it is a direct drive electric motor, and the other is connected to the motor via a planetary gear set, which means the CvT is an electric CvT not a belt driven CVT. Maybe you should look up how a Powertrain system works before you make a statement about how it is.

  • @davep2945
    @davep2945 2 года назад +1

    I know this is an old video so no one is likely to see this but I wish all reviewers would stop with the throw away lines about wheelbase, tires, and all the other garbage mostly male reviewers throw out to sound like they know something about off road driving. The Sienna has a wheelbase of 120.5" which is a grand total of 2 inches longer than the Jeep Wrangler 4 door's wheelbase of 118.4 inches. Longer, yes, but wheelbase alone is not the difference between the Jeep and the Sienna. And the Toyota Tacoma every reviewer is contractually obligated to drool over off road? It has a wheelbase of 127.4 inches. Wheelbase is part of a total equation, not the most important factor and often a longer wheelbase is a better choice depending on the terrain and obstacles to be encountered. So to say, as almost every guy who likes to talk without researching does, that a longer wheelbase is always bad for off roading is simply an uninformed statement that shows the reviewers ignorance and reliance on anecdotes and myths rather than reality. Same goes for the blind statements that switching tires would make a huge difference. Really? It could but what type of tires ore we talking about? Full on street tread versus mud boggers? Well, yeah, there's a difference to be found there. But often this statement is made when a vehicle comes with something like a BFG Trail Terrain and the reviewer says, well, if it had KO2's instead that would make a difference. Maybe but probably not. Especially on loose surfaces like the one in this video where there are no ruts to sink into to allow the side biters to do any good or softer soil where the slightly more widely spaced lugs could sink to a more stable base layer and grab. Funny how every time tires are tested in the same situations by sources who are actually testing the tires and not simply giving opinions that tires within the same category give almost exactly the same results.

  • @tsizzle
    @tsizzle 3 года назад +5

    The best thing about this Sienna is the storage shelf for the front passenger and driver and the nice mpg being a hybrid. The question is this or the Carnival, Odyssey or Pacifica?

    • @PeppersGhost55
      @PeppersGhost55 3 года назад +2

      Sienna FTW

    • @jeepindave5464
      @jeepindave5464 3 года назад

      Carnival looks the best. Terrible mpg
      Pacifica the gold standard, but its chysler
      Odyssey had a lot of complaints most dated
      Its a tough choice which is exciting the mini vans are making a come back.

    • @joshuakurian5994
      @joshuakurian5994 3 года назад +1

      Carnival definitely.

  • @dukekelloway5328
    @dukekelloway5328 2 года назад +1

    I don't give a crap about all this new technology. Wish I could order a vehicle without all that. I love the safety stuff but carrying on about finding coffee shops when everyone aboard has a phone just makes the review of a very expensive vehicle kinda look silly. During the chip shortage BMW was the only builder to go the less technology route. Not that I would ever buy a BMW but at least it shows a degree of creativity and knowledge about what their customers look for and it's not necessarily the ability to find coffee shops.

  • @dayvancowboy
    @dayvancowboy 3 года назад +5

    I'd much rather have this with AWD and hybrid gas mileage than an Odyssey with the conventional gearbox and louder V6

  • @eddleman72
    @eddleman72 3 года назад +1

    I think it would be clearer to distinguish that Toyota hybrid drive which you refer to as a "CVT" is in fact their "Hybrid Synergy Drive" system with 2 electric motors and the engine coupled together through a planetary gear set. Planetary gear sets in the early days were referred to sum and difference engines. The HSD system varys the speeds that the electric motors spin (in relation to engine speed to provide the variable ratios.. The term "CVT" most commonly refers to transmissions that use a belt and variable pulleys to change ratios. The CVTs (variable pulley/belt drive) in terms of torque capability and overheating limitations from the tests I viewed are more limited compared to the 2 oil cooled electric motors/planetary gear set can accomplish.... I think you would find spending time in discussion with one of Toyota's hybrid drive train engineers enlightening on the topic.
    Update.. just saw iwfur25 comments below saying the same thing! Do your homework and stop calling Toyota's HSD drivetrain a "CVT"!

    • @toronado455
      @toronado455 2 года назад +1

      I think the reason the media is always calling it "CVT" is because Toyota themselves calls it a "ECVT". But I agree they should just call it a planetary gear set.

  • @alexfed4721
    @alexfed4721 3 года назад +5

    Finally honest review! Every “tester” talking only how good it is

  • @sarrum7696
    @sarrum7696 3 года назад +18

    I don’t think that was insane. I could easily imagine the road to a camp site being like that. I do agree with what you said, the 17” wheels are key. I wouldn’t even attempt it in 20”.

    • @nwsvndr
      @nwsvndr 2 года назад

      So the AWD all have 17"? Some models also have 18"?

    • @imnotusingmyrealname4566
      @imnotusingmyrealname4566 2 года назад +1

      @@nwsvndr The base model is best because it has smallest wheels and a bench with 3 seats in the 2nd row.

  • @verynick
    @verynick 3 года назад +3

    This hybrid system (2.5 liter) is considered one of the best system on the market! And its transmission is the most reliable. I don’t understand why he mentioned it makes engine noise all the time. Like when you step on the gas? It only does that when you step on it which is 10% of the time. But you’d get the best MPG 100% of the time though

  • @onedankind8168
    @onedankind8168 3 года назад +1

    subaru should enter the minivan market

    • @toronado455
      @toronado455 2 года назад

      they really should. But they need to fix the problems with the Ascent first.

  • @brickboys7375
    @brickboys7375 2 года назад +1

    I'm trying to find good reviews on the engine compared to a V6, and it seems like it will be fine, but most of the reviews aren't great. Like this guy is the engine whines, I'd get a Honda Odyssey.

  • @spencjon4822
    @spencjon4822 Год назад +1

    There's a 3" lift kit available for this. That seems sort of perfect. Over 30mpg with AWD and that much space?
    Camping in that would be great.

  • @joskjj3625
    @joskjj3625 3 года назад +14

    This minivan has seen more off-road then most crossover suvs

    • @PWCDN
      @PWCDN 3 года назад +1

      Crossovers larger than a Rav4 are so pointless, its really a vanity vehicle. Either get this for cargo/passengers or a 4runner if you're doing off-road. Cross overs do neither.

    • @civicsi411
      @civicsi411 3 года назад

      And some trucks 😂

    • @joskjj3625
      @joskjj3625 3 года назад

      @@civicsi411 I disagree I see more trucks off-road than most suvs, infact every truck I see is either towing trailers or hauling heavy payload in the back,every time it’s snows it’s always a truck I see plowing the snow, I don’t see suvs doing that hard work, suvs are the new minivans because all I see them do is haul kids, trucks however are different, most trucks I see are either towing trailers or hauling heavy payload, I don’t know where everyone is seeing trucks as “pavement princess” when most of the time it’s suvs that never touch dirt, I have to admit I’ve seen some trucks that are lifted with skinny tires but that’s so rare because most of the time I see trucks are being abused, I rarely see an suv being used for towing

  • @garik1018
    @garik1018 2 года назад +5

    I just bought this car LE version and absolutely love it! I drove from San Jose to LA 360 miles and still has 300 miles left! that's insane! you can easily drive 650 miles with 18 gallons . The base model is loaded with tech futures like android/apple carplay , line assist and adaptive cruise control. Great video btw.

    • @rightlanehog3151
      @rightlanehog3151 2 года назад +1

      Klopp needs to start endorsing Siennas instead of those stupid Opels!!

    • @hrnkrks1
      @hrnkrks1 2 года назад

      Is it AWD?

    • @garik1018
      @garik1018 2 года назад

      @@hrnkrks1 no

    • @meenam300zx
      @meenam300zx 2 года назад

      Toyotas are great if you don't mind the uncomfortable seats.
      I do the same trip with my Volvo XC60 once a month and I can drive for 8 hours straight and walk out with no issues.
      If I drive my Wife's 2020 Avalon Limited, or my son's 2019 Highlander Limited for 4 hours, I have to visit a chiropractor.
      Surprisingly, my daughter's CRV has a much better seat than Toyota but lesser quality compared to Volvo.

  • @Savethemanuals94
    @Savethemanuals94 2 года назад +2

    New car equipped with AWD
    Driving sports TV : aight, Imma take this bad boy off-roading

  • @dinkata2005
    @dinkata2005 3 года назад +10

    This was actually super impressive given that it's a massive van and has only Toyota's rather weak hybrid AWD.
    One thing Ryan is completely wrong about is the gearbox. The eCVT of the HSD system has nothing to do with a normal CVT - it uses neither a torque converter, nor chain/belt drive. It is, though, quite good for low speed crawling.

  • @bestdadintheworld4981
    @bestdadintheworld4981 8 месяцев назад +1

    He dogged it out almost the entire time. Just say you like Honda better dude 🤦‍♂️

  • @bikleBen
    @bikleBen 3 года назад +14

    I've been waiting for you guys to review one of these!!!

  • @gregoryforrest8970
    @gregoryforrest8970 3 года назад +3

    I am just wondering how well or unwell it would ride up that rocky road fully loaded with passengers and some extra cargo, do that test and let's see how this vehicle performs.

  • @TwistedAkimoto
    @TwistedAkimoto 3 года назад +2

    I think the sienna Woodland version will be a top seller and might beat out some suv as well.

  • @pigybak
    @pigybak 3 года назад +3

    like the way you testing the AWD. other car reviews never leave the pavement.

  • @kevina.600
    @kevina.600 3 года назад +3

    This man will take anything and everything off-road 😂 tricycle off-road test, toy car off-road test, smart car off-road test 😂 love it

  • @jdnrotterdam2150
    @jdnrotterdam2150 3 года назад

    The name Mini/van or MPV don’t belong to this vehicle anymore.. this is just a VAN. In europe. This is a work Bus. Or shuttle Bus… not a. Family mini van for mom.

  • @tasparling
    @tasparling 2 года назад +1

    Dude! I love that you did that. Don't apologize for doing cool shit.

  • @tylernewberry1848
    @tylernewberry1848 3 года назад +5

    I already have my AWD Sienna Platinum on order, but I'm so glad you made this video. I'm looking forward to some light off-road camping with the family and this definitely put me at a little more ease about it. Maybe we'll be able to go more places than I previously thought.

    • @tony7044
      @tony7044 3 года назад

      Just got my 21 Sienna last week. Throwing a 3" lift on it in 2 weeks, can't wait! Definitely not planning to climb rocks, but don't want to worry about scraping on dirt roads on blm land.

    • @tylernewberry1848
      @tylernewberry1848 3 года назад +3

      @@tony7044 I saw the 3" lift from journeys off-road, I definitely want to do that eventually, it's too inexpensive not to do that.

    • @tony7044
      @tony7044 3 года назад

      @@tylernewberry1848 Exactly! Getting mine installed by journeys at their shop. Can't wait! Van will look so much better afterwards, too 😂

    • @jonnietronik
      @jonnietronik 3 года назад +1

      How long is the wait?

  • @ryandg2008
    @ryandg2008 2 года назад +1

    I like the hybrid awd part. But not being able to remove the second row seating is a despicable design flaw. It should at least have this function since they don't want to adopt stow n go. They should have stepped it up while the Pacifica is also dragging their feet on stow n go for second row in the hyrbid version. They might have won over a lot of Chrysler customers. I dont like the front center console. I'd rather have the option to have none. Dont like the screen sitting on top of the dash. Just looks weird, awkward and ugly imo

  • @relmdrifter
    @relmdrifter 2 года назад +1

    Toyota teased a Sienna built on the Tacoma chassis .... I want one.

  • @marcosgazamanes6165
    @marcosgazamanes6165 2 года назад +1

    CVT CVT CVT, RUclipsr buzzword. This is an ECVT totally different from a conventional CVT, it’s expected to use the most efficient rpm to propel the vehicle and create electricity via the motor generator. When the vehicle it’s not changing speed it sounds normal. I also did not hear how nice and smooth the ECVT is to drive when doing normal daily driving.
    Benefits of the ECVT, it’s got two electric motors (MG1+MG2) as a transmission, it will probably never ever fail. Also delete the starter and alternator off the odyssey which will require replacement at some point (as they all do).
    Get off the bias, it’s different technology, it’s bullet proof and it’s efficient.

  • @HydraliskX
    @HydraliskX 3 года назад +3

    I can't believe how large the Toyota grills have become.

    • @edwardzdankiewicz9068
      @edwardzdankiewicz9068 3 года назад +1

      They are the ugliest of the minivans. But the MPG and (likely) reliability mean I can overlook it.

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    @Auxbeam 3 года назад

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  • @bvkcars8349
    @bvkcars8349 3 года назад +5

    This was very enjoyable to watch

  • @Tmrfe0962
    @Tmrfe0962 2 года назад +1

    Driving cross country with the Mrs. For a retirement journey. Can’t imagine a better vehicle for this. Love this….

  • @ArnoldTriyudho
    @ArnoldTriyudho 3 года назад +2

    Any plans to review the Pacifica AWD..??

  • @carlmanu
    @carlmanu 3 года назад +1

    Fish are aerodynamic when fishes fly.

  • @familytriate
    @familytriate 3 года назад +2

    Wow, I have a Subaru, and yes I am. I'm that situation where I want even more space, I take my cars to dirt a lot and had concerns on having the Sienna, seems pretty decent, I just wish Toyota sends the awd version to Mexico....

  • @PaulHo
    @PaulHo 3 года назад +1

    Props for supporting a small coffee shop, but literally try any other one. We get it, voice search is always going to be a test of processing power on every car, but anything else like Corner Coffee or something not using a foreign name doesn't really prove anything. I would never look up an authentic Korean BBQ place or Russian spa like that.

  • @unkindguy88
    @unkindguy88 3 года назад +1

    I am such a city guy, when he said trail I thought a dirt trail. hahaha!!!

  • @joshuakurian5994
    @joshuakurian5994 3 года назад +1

    Do the previous 2020 model. It will probably do better off-road.

  • @JSS75
    @JSS75 2 года назад +1

    Let’s consider this off-roading we watched here in combination with the frankly absurd amount of space in this, and lastly add in the economy there’s no comparison! Big suv costs a lot more (30k more) and consumer reports puts the Tahoe at 11 mpg highway (LOL) but with 75 cubic feet with the rear seats flat it’s wild how much you can put in this.
    It certainly makes me want one, escape the SUV obsession.

  • @paulc2548
    @paulc2548 3 года назад +5

    LOL, the search engine is so slow it is like watching the grass grows... Every time, I watch the Sienna's review, I never stop wishing they offer a V6 :). Great review as always, I really enjoy watching your videos.