The only AWD Hybrid Minivan In America | 2021 Toyota Sienna
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- Опубликовано: 19 июл 2024
- Looking to sip fuel, seat a full family, AND have some extra winter traction? There's just one minivan for you: the new Toyota Sienna. For 2021 Toyota is doubling down on hybrids making their minivan hybrid only in America. Want a V6? Shop somewhere else. Want 36 MPG? Toyota has your back. But does that make this the best minivan in America? Or just the most efficient?
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I rented a 2022 Toyota Sienna XLE a couple of weeks ago. I drove around Los Angeles metro area with 7 passengers. After 200 miles (mostly freeway), the car averaged 42 mpg. Crazy good number for a minivan!
Middle age dad how cares for safety and economy is the coolest human being ever.
Like he has a choice.
Lol, you meant working ass dude with no choice is his hand. In heart, we want V8 with a stick
@@yahtadi5152 V8 is inefficient and pollutes more to travel less.
@@hedgehogthesonic3181 Yeah, V8s are sadly an anachronism. I could get an IS500, but chugging a V8 at a stop light to go to work is ridiculous. It's out of tune with what's going on in the world.
@@aluisious Yeah, i don't see what is the problem here. V8 are terrible for daily commute, and the amount of fuel wasted on these is terrible. It is better if these engines are gone for good.
I'm a minivan fan and I don't even have kids. I just like the way they drive and the commanding view.
You and my brother. He's had Odysseys for years and years. They really are comfortable and the ability to carry anything is so handy.
16 years / 168,000 miles on my like new 2006 SEINNA from new… I have maintained as required and never had any dealer required pairs … all those required maintenance were done on time …22/28 mpg mileage at 75ave mph !!!
Just rented one last month from dealership to drive from VA to FL. 7 ppl. Worked out well. Very comfortable.
I didn’t realize you could rent vehicles from dealers. That’s pretty awesome
Just did this, too! XSE was an incredible ride for the week.
@@jsac3939 You have to check, but they had an actual rental department. They were significantly cheaper then Enterprise, Alamo, etc. However, call each dealership in your area. They aren't all the same rental price. In my area one was $120 a day, the other was $75 a day. You can guess which one I went with.
When that intro song comes on , you know its gonna be lit
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I can speak to the Pacifica's hatch button temptation. I regularly tell the young ones not to mess with it.
Buy a previous gen Sienna , the side doors opened themselves on the road thanks to a manufacturing recall & you won’t have this problem anymore .
Great review Alex! I just bought a 2021 Toyota sienna XSE front wheel drive with the 1500 W inverter option. Yes it has the 20 inch wheels. My first tank driving home from the dealer was 41 miles per gallon over the 400 mile trip, I varied my speed for optimal break-in. Not exceeding 70 miles an hour. I am currently on my second tank and I am getting 42 miles per gallon in urban 55 mile in under driving with hilly conditions. Absolutely love my Toyota sienna! Without a doubt I made the right decision to get it. Nothing better than Toyota reliability! Yes if you are looking for lots of power this Van has very adequate power! But if you want to be a racer with a V6 then that would be a better option for you. Personally I love getting 42 miles per gallon, with driving over 650 miles on a single tank! Also if you want to drive 85 mph don’t expect to get that kind of mileage.
Exactly!
this reminds me so much of my dad’s 2011 previa. So much great memories with that car
"Magic seats aren't as magical as you might like" made me laugh harder than it probably should've.
Dear Toyota, offer a Prime Sienna, make the 2nd row seats removable, and give us a more updated infotainment system and then I will even consider looking at you over the PacHy.
I'm pretty sure the following new design mini van won't able to remove their seats even without airbag. More states require rear passenger buckle seatbelt on the road therefore it need sensor underneath the seat
@Jean Toronto Raptors Sometime people needs 4x8 plywood or drywall on their van. If the seats are removable then life much easier. But, since toyota decide only hybrid system on their van that mean they want you focus on people more than cargo
@Jean Toronto Raptors if one prefers the safety of their luggage over family, then idk how or why they even have a family 😆
@@yujuwan3104 people always talk about 4x8 plywood and drywall like they are building room additions and sheds 4x a year. It can fit vertically, if you need more just rent the Home Depot truck for $20 for 75mins. Don’t have to get your interior dirty and damaged. Plus if you’re looking for a minivan you probably have kids. I rather rent a truck than pull out child seats, seat back organizers, bins, etc out of the van.
@@TinfoilCharliesPureblood-uy8sr they are releasing a outdoorsy version with a lift
Hi Alex, nice review as always. You might need to replace this video's thumbnail, as it's the same as the one in your older Sienna video :)
Just got ours 2 days ago, and the fuel consumption was just half liter more than our rav4s 5.9 l/100km, just amazing and the response was better than i was expecting!
Edmund's longterm Sienna Hybrid is only getting 31 mpg at 6,000 miles.
@@normt430 33 mpg on Fuelly.
@@aliendroneservices6621 was 32.5 a few weeks ago. Still no where near 35 mpg. Especially when PacHy is getting +80 mpge on daily driving is more double the Sienna Hybrid.
Is the hybrid system smooth & refined as we expected from Toyota?
@@normt430 I usually average between 39 and 42mpg with 43.7mpg being my highest tank. Le awd sienna here.
My dream hybrid minivan!! Great job Alex.
My family is going to get one this December, do you have any tips or information about the car?
Great review. While I'm impressed by the Sienna generally and it's interesting that Toyota went aggressive in style and making it hybrid only, they really need to get 1) the braking performance up to par with this powertrain and compared to the competition and 2) the lower trim lines to have better materials quality and fit and finish. I've read this in other reviews, even if not mentioned directly here.
5:07 On my old previous gen Sienna I didn’t even need my feet , the side doors opened themselves on the road thanks to a manufacturing recall . I really didn't like this except when my mother-in-law sat beside .
My old sienna opened the door by itself on the highway before when there was no shoulder on the highway. I had 2 pull over on the grass and pray my cargo didn't fall out.
When the 2019 Avalon came out, people went crazy about the large standard front grill design...Now the Sienna has basically the same design cues...crickets.
Got a 2022 xle 8 passenger and it’s been amazing so far. AC could be more powerful, but it’s just fine. Comfort is a 10. Mpg is a real 32-33 mpg if I drive fast.
The Carnival is not available with all-wheel-drive. Unless I missed something. So that's a pretty important distinction if AWD is a must-have. If the plug-in Pacifica had a three-person second row, I'd be signing the check right now.
I also love my 2020 AWD Sienna SE
19:18 exactly what all review or comparisons should have!!! Ty!
Minivans and vans in general are awesome and much more useful than pickup trucks
Wish Toyota would finally offer a cargo version of this.
Yes & whitout this big intruding console please , I want to go to the rear without going outside .Idealy a very basic model without all the electronic gizmo.
@Nodak81 Yes, Reliable hybrid cargo vans are overdue.
#vanlife
Those vanlife people are gonna love these.
The point of having the hatch button up high is to prevent kid operating it. It might cause injuries to kids since they might not really pay much attention
Love love love minivans. I will likely hang on to my ‘18 PacHy until there is a full EV option.
How do you like the Pacifica?
Thanks for the great info! Overall I really like the Sienna! The screen is a disappointment as is the middle seat situation and the cheap-out front passenger seat (why don't they just give you identical, fully adjustable front seats?)! I love the center console area and actually prefer the styling compared to the Carnival (even if that means it looks like a minivan)! Those package configurations make no sense at all!
They should offer Sienna Prime.
The Pacifica Hybrid Pinnacle is the Lexus Sienna with +80 mpge! Plus that $7,500 tax credit makes it less than Sienna.
@@normt430 how reliable is Pacifica?
@@cc300 the PacHy has similar reliability as the new Sienna according to Consumer Reports. The Sienna is new and most surveys are using predicted reliability but if Toyota RAV4 is any indicator the Pacifica matches it.
@@telluridelover2417 on PacHy Facebook page they are trading in 2-year old for new and making money with the $7,500 and additional incentives. So it is always under B2B warranty and hybrid warranty is not even half used up.
@@normt430 usually I don’t fall for “1 sample size” long term test for reliability evaluation, but the C&D long term test was shocking. They replaced the entire 16 kWH battery pack and several other things.
www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a22688297/2018-chrysler-pacifica-hybrid-reliability/
Love you Alex !
Alex does a good job with pre-emptive statement qualifiers.. striking down the meathead commenters before they even touch their keyboards 🤣🤣
Thank you.
Great review Alex. Until Toyota brings the Alphard or Lexus LM to the states, this is the best minivan on the market.
Drives great, stylish and save gas! Personally, I take hybrid over ev's anyday.
But guilty in loving gas guzzler sport sedans.
I see no reason for the Highlander hybrid to exist now.
The sienna is just better and also it’s a lot cheaper to start with than the Highlander hybrid. 34.5K for the sienna hybrid LE vs 38.5 K for the Highlander hybrid LE
Style…
@@AAutoBuyersGuide is the highlander style $4-5K better than the sienna?
Ehhhh…
@@naveenthemachine Larger SUVs have cost more than minivans for more than a decade, while being much worse at carrying people and cargo. Yet SUVs and CUVs continue to sell like hotcakes.
@@joshua.harazin true but the Highlander isn’t a “large suv”. On paper yes, but compared to say a Sequoia the Highlander is a small 3 row suv.
@@joshua.harazin that also depends, our family got a Pathfinder for the purpose of having a AWD vehicle mainly carrying 4 or 5 people and occasionally 5 or 6. We wanted to get a AWD Van like the Sienna, but at the time of purchasing, the Pathfinder costs $37k CAD and Sienna costs $47k+ if we want an AWD model, granted that the Sienna is a true 7 passenger vehicle vs Pathfinders' 5+2, it's still s compromise we are willing to make for over $10k difference...
I hope a Sienna Prime comes out soon.
Alex, is there a new Honda Odyssey Minivan coming in the near future for the United States Market?
8:25 despite this , is gonna be the first thing I'm gonna do If i buy one , after that : a dremmel job to get rid of the big intrusive console . I need a passage to go to the rear . Cargo version please !
My dream van life vehicle
Alex, To answer your question, Sienna LE AWD with the spare tire and tow hitch.
Toyota hybrids are unique. Recommend to anyone who wants to use less fossil fuels.
It's not going to be same as regular engine.
Highly recommend Toyota vehicles. Less maintenance and higher resale. Not sure hybrid retain value as eventually have to replace batteries. Like and would consider this vehicle.
Currently drive Prius V wagon - not exciting or purdy.. but economical!
Hybrid batteries have become so cheap. Hence I don't see much decrease in vehicle value over time.
You have me at 4x8 sheet goods. That's the only thing I buy on a regular basis that I would need a truck for.
Got a F1PACIFICA. Haul plywood and sheetrock all day. I also made a slide in bunk/camping base for it. It's awesome. Pacifica for the win .
The Pacifica is a good choice if you carry sheet goods, but also need to use all three rows of seats. If you don't carry passengers, or you're OK putting them in the third row with the second removed, the Odyssey is solid. Not sure about Kia Carnival configurations. I think it's close to the Honda.
Not having a feature like cabin watch or fam cam is such a let down, with kids rear facing the camera is such a handy feature especially in 3rd row
Toyota needs to fix the taillights illumination, it’s just too dark for safe night driving. The whole lamp assemblies need to be illuminated instead of two small blobs of red light at night
“The luxury minivan is a novelty and I am not sure how many people buy them”. Judging from my neighborhood and the ones around me, pretty much 70% of the Indian and Middle Eastern doctor’s wives do and that might be conservative. I sat in the new KIA Carnival a few days ago and it’s really nice, definitely my favorite minivan out there, I would drive one.
Have to have AWD! So it's Sienna hands down unless Honda wakes up and offers AWD then it's Honda #1
The Sienna has had AWD for over a decade. Honda could have put AWD in by now but their strategy all these years has been to push customers to the AWD Pilot
You don’t really need AWD. You can use snow tires. Odyssey is just fine.
Family vehicle means comfort, versatile, smooth engine, quiet etc. This is what the 2020 Sienna better than 2021. Fuel consumption is important but less important than the reasons I mentioned before.
Pinch me, I must be dreaming. Two 2021 Sienna reviews 7 months apart?
Who said lightning can't strike twice !
The plug in is for me if I was in the market for a mini van.
The PacHy is for you. You just have to share the $7,500 tax credit with me!
I got my PacHy about three months ago and it has been trouble free so far over 3,000 miles. I am also averaging about 70 MPG so that is more than I could ask for. Unfortunately the factory in Canada has been shut down for a while and they are getting harder to find.
My 07 sienna lets me fold the seats and or take them out. Not being able to remove seats doesn't seem wise. Or at least limits the benefits of a minivan.
nice intro for sienna. BTW what's the music from 18:22? thanks
Alex: a few quick questions I was surprised you didn’t address: 1) is the cruise control easy and convenient to operate? My previous experience with Toyota cruise control is that it is so difficult and frustrating to use that one tends to actually use ones foot. 2) is the seating position in the second row conducive to using the van as an office with a tablet mounted on the front seat headrest, and a fold down table mounted on the seat back? (Accessories, obviously) Or is it too reclined/low?
I'd still go for Sienna knowing Toyota reliability and longevity.
I actually prefer you explain separately like in this video.
Would rather have the V-6 as an option.
I’d rather have a V8 as an option.
I do not understand why Toyota decided to make the rear seat entertainment NOT play DVDs. I believe the video says it does but when we looked at them, they don’t. Toyota said to bring a DVD player and plug it into the power outlet. I know DVDs are antiquated but that’s what most kids movies are on. With the Sienna, you either have to upload your movies to a USB stick or sign up for the in car WiFi to stream.
I was torn between the Sienna and the Pacifica Hybrid for a long time. Ultimately went with the Pacifica for the following:
-EV range covers most of my driving
-Tax credit
-Tri-panel sunroof
-UConnect 5 is amazing
-Dual Rear Entertainment that doesn't obstruct the mirror
-Could care less about stow-and-go
-Didn't think I'd use the 1500w inverter very often
-The ottoman from Sienna seemed like a feature that would be nice, but likely not used often.
-Fridge option was pulled at the last minute from the Sienna
-The sienna felt down right slow (I live in Colorado)
**I REALLY wish there was an AWD Pacifica Hybrid...
That's funny because the siennaawd is faster than the Pacifica awd.
@@occckid123
dude, Siena is slower.
Alex explained exactly why.
smaller engine to accommodate EPA.
@@RESISTAGE umm not its not. Have you looked at the latest test where they pitted the sienna awd vs a Pacifica awd. The sienna was faster. Numbers don't lie. Notice how I said awd??? Would u like the link. Google isn't hard 2 use!
@@occckid123
But we’re talking about the Pacifica PHEV. It’s much faster because it’s electric.
Unfortunately it’s only 2WD.
@@lumberjackdreamer6267 what did that have 2 do with my original comment?
SUVs do not have their suspensions tuned firmer for off road capability. They have AWD for that. Off road vehicles have softer suspensions with greater suspension travel and often under-inflated tires.The firmer suspension tuning is to help with handling and cornering in order to counter the higher center of gravity and thus is the "Sport" in SUV. ;)
Inability to remove the middle row seat to me defeats the concept of a minivan.
@@fcex558 No, I do not. What an absurd suggestion.
So the second row seats don't fold either eh? Such that you could put 4x8 sheets on top?
AWD with rear wheels being electric drive. If you're looking for me traditional AWD Van that's a hybrid.... the new Pacific also comes with AWD
We need this in the UK
Wish if they offer 8 seater AWD at higher trim levels at least with XLE and XSE
Recently bought our first minivan. check out all these. obviously it's subjective but here's a breakdown.
Sienna - if gas mileage is your thing then this is it. good enough at everything else.
Odyssey - drives the best, best interior overall with balance of people comfort/stuff. flaws - no awd, they'll probably come out with a hybrid/new model next year
Pacifica - usually the best value; due to limited stock right now not as many discounts as it usually gets but eventually probably will again. has a reputation for being less reliable; think really it's about the same reliability but feels cheaper. i.e. nobs, buttons, etc feel cheap compared to Odyssey, Sienna, probably even Carnival. think the feel of it feeds into the reputation. pacifica overall is fine though.
Pacifica Hybrid - if plugin electric is your thing then this is it with the tax credit it's a good deal. other than that it's pretty meh.
Voyager - cheaper pacifica but no point because it's not cheap enough
Carnival - best styling, if they added awd then they'd have a winner but only wins on styling nothing else really stood out on it.
Went with Odyssey due to removable leather seating for 8 and best driving. probably would have went Sienna but ridiculous second row limitations was a killer. just seems dumb that 2nd row isn't removable and Sienna only has 8 on LE, LE AWD, XLE. As mentioned in the vid, sure Sienna seats can be removed but are not designed to be removed and it's not as simple as it should be.
One other note - if you are considering SUV vs minivan stop and buy the minivan. Minivan is so much better. Any of these are drastically better at people/stuff hauling than any SUV. Only exceptions might be towing and helping your ego as you pull up to places.
@@rv2167 you're not wrong. just preferences... probably would have went Sienna but second row seat deal was just too dumb. can't get leather with 8 seats, can't even get synthetic leather 8 seats with AWD, Sienna with leather was coming in 3-4k higher than Odyssey, so better 2nd row and cheaper made it work for me. Also didn't personally like the "bridge" thing but again just preferences.
It was kinda funny to me how each minivan option is like 90% the same as the others but the 10% that's different is so frustrating when deciding.
Do think Sienna might retain better value though with gas mileage so if second row isn't a big deal then Sienna probably is generally the better option.
What about a Karnival PHEV and AWD?
That would be the best.
nice
@Alex - No option for a panoramic sunroof on the Sienna it seems, right? Maybe because of the in-cabin camera mounted there. The other minivans offer at least some second, or even third pane of glass sunroof option.
There is no in cabin camera. The area for a would be pano roof is occupied by the rear seat entertainment and the controls for the rear climate control
@@naveenthemachine oh that's right, the rear screen entertainment! Whereas the Pacifica has dual screens built into the headrests, and thus allowing for glass up top.
Thx
They add a lot of weight which reduces hybrid efficiency.
10:33 yes, finally found a car where I have place for an 8" sub upfront.
Your socks will creep down your ankles when it's thumping.
hdmi input works for games or input from iPads/phones?
I feel sad for people who go into debt to buy a minivan, pay cash and buy a cheaper van. Your kids will thank you for college fund instead of how they rode in a van
Would you be able to put 4 x 8 sheets vertically and slip them in between the captain's chair?
That's the word on the street, yes. Doubt you can fit more than s few sheets though
Alex, i know you said you would get the hybrid Pacifica, would you still get the Pacifica for long term ownership? I am debating between the two and I planning on keeping my car at least 10 years+. Given that Chrysler is not reliable, do you think the Pacifica hybrid would last that long? Thank you
I was hesitant on Pacifica's reliability as well. But the 2020 Pacifica got a 5/5 (top rating) from Consumer Reports on Reliability...I was shocked! And considering the major difference in the 2021 model is mostly cosmetic, I'm betting that 2021 will be reliable too. I got the Pacifica hybrid about 2 months ago (it was Alex's 2021 Pacifica hybrid video that swung me over from the Sienna) and have no regrets at all.
Get Sienna 2021 if you are looking for reliability. Also 34-36 MPG is not bad. I got 2021 Sienna right when it came to market in November 2020 and its almost one year now. Not a single problem so far. Its my wife's daily office commute and we took it to 9 hours drive one time and 4.5 hours several times.
Just one advise, get a higher trim if you are going to use third row in Sienna, because pushing second row seat manually to go back on the third row is a pain. Also basic LE 8 seats trim doesn't have space for spare tire in trunk.
Is this a serious question?
Only having the 184hp gas engine is a good observation and one that’s going to bite people with 6 passengers on long road trips at 70+ mph speeds where the battery never gets a chance to recharge. I want to see what the real world mileage becomes in those scenarios with that 4 cyl straining, especially in hilly terrain like I have in my area.
Even at 70 mph and loaded the engine won't be working flat out. If it were, it could never pass. On the flat the battery will be recharging. The killer is up and down mountains. Upgrades empty the batteries quickly and then you're left with just the engine.
every minor decel, downgrade and coast charges the batteries... even with cruise on...
Alex told us he got 28, and I'd guess that's going to be pretty close to the bottom.
We need a Sienna PHEV like the Pacifica. Much better, because it has a 30 miles pure electric.
Why is the sun shade at 7:14 only hanging by one hook.
One correction: The Sienna does not have any disc player (DVD nor Blu-ray). The entertainment system is mainly designed to stream from your phone. (Another reason we picked the Pacifica hybrid over the new Sienna). I'm tech savvy enough to stream or rip movies to a USB stick, but most parents would probably prefer to just stick in a disc, I think that was a poor design choice by Toyota.
Agree. Reportedly the 2022 Sienna will have the next generation infotainment/entertainment system. Probably won't be adding option of playing DVD or Blue-ray, but one can still hope.
I wonder if it's because of parts availability like with the vacuum and icebox.
With Wi-Fi in vehicles & most carriers including mobile hotspots, more people are streaming Disney+ or content than carting around DVDs.
Jeffrey, how are you liking your Pacifica hybrid? I'm debating between the Pacifica hybrid vs Sienna AWD.
do they make this in cargo van configuration?
Am I the only one who thinks it’s incredibly dangerous to put a bag or anything not restrained inches away from the gas and brake pedals? That centre console cubby is a no no for me
Traditional minivans have often had wide-open space in that area instead, allowing for all kinds of stuff to be placed there. If it’s in a bag, I doubt it will be a problem. Maybe don’t place your bowling ball there. :)
I own a 2015 Sienna. It’s unbelievable to me that Toyota pays so little attention to the comfort in the front seats. At the top trim these should be like Lexus seats with at least 6 way adjustable and preferable 8 way. And message in the driver seat! Take my money! Give me some damn luxury in my minivan that we tick off thousands of miles in!!!!
They are more worried about the limo seating in the second row.
@@brianb7844 right!?! The place I put the CAR SEATS… and even when my kids get bigger, why exactly do they deserve nicer seats than me??? This is why I’m replacing the van with a truck. You can actually get luxury AND utility in a modern truck.
Mini vans rocks. 1000 times better than suvs.
Can you also tow a trailer like Rav 4?
l live in a mountainous area, where some of the climbs are 4-5 miles long. Can anyone tell me how long the electric motor's power last before it runs out and leaves just the 4 cylinder engine to pull the van?
…..Seems like how much your incline is. That is, you would need to know the elevation change.
The Sienna (at least the older ones) are amazingly practical. Last weekend I took my 2012 sienna on an 1100 mile mountainous round trip (plus almost 200 miles over multiple days at the destination). Four adults, one child, 2 paddle boards, 2 kayaks, paddles, etc. plus the normal multi-day luggage and achieved nearly 30mpg without being conservative and with only 56 total miles on interstate highways. That 3.5L v6 does great. I'm not impressed by the new hybrid system. Maybe if they do a "Prime" version with decent performance it would work but I'm skeptical about passing 60mph traffic during a climb without my v6! Over the 4th of July the plan is for 325 miles the other direction (650 round trip including total 100 on the interstate).
I doubt you almost got 30mpg with kayaks up there unless you were on back roads or 2 lane roads traveling at low speeds. I travel over 600 miles a tank on my sienna hybrid and I doubt you'll b within 150 miles of that lol. My fuel cost went from 40 bucks to 24 dollars every 2 days going from my 2018 to the 2021 sienna with the same exact driving. I also like if you do shit if idling or like 2 sit in your car for a bit with the engine on the hybrid battery can keep the engine off saving much more fuel.
@@occckid123 inflatables in their bags in the back. nothing on the roof. I doubt you'll be hitting 90 passing on an uphill grade with the hybrid to get around the line of RVs and logging trucks before the next oncoming traffic arrives.
@@Sylvan_dB I bet you I will. I have no problem going 100 plus up steep hills. I've done it multiple times and even had a pull with an older x5 v8 non turbo and it was pretty much a wash from a 60-90mph roll. Motortrend has this at 7.6 0-60 and in the 15s for the 1/4 mile run. That generation of sienna with awd didn't even do in the 15's and had the same trap speed so I doubt it's much slower. I had a pull with the old v6 from 20mph and the sienna hybrid was quicker because the v6 failed to shift into 1st when he floored it and i pulled a car length I'm the 20-45 range like when squirting out into traffic. From 60-100 it was exactly as fast as the kia sorento v5 I raced. .
@@occckid123 that's good to hear. I'll have to test one!
@@Sylvan_dB the trick to getting a launch that would leave everyone behind is brake and gas at the same time then release the brake. The gas has 2 be pushed down all the way and that turns on the engine at the start before take off. I screech the tires very loudly during take off. I've had people get scared next to me from how loud I screeched the tires or laugh hysterically lmfao!!!
Probably need to call a tow truck after you run the microwave off that 1500 W plug
Comparing the Pacifica Hybrid vs. The Sienna Hybrid I think the Pacifica wins hands down. Better or the same gas mileage, better/more features, more power, and more practical space. With the typical discounts you can get with Chrysler they are usually much, much cheaper. The only way I would consider the Sienna is if reliability is your only or by far most important feature or if you can't plug in your car to charge overnight most of the time. Even then you can get a very good 10yr extended warranty on the Pacifica and still be much cheaper than the Sienna.
Carnival should come out with the 1.6T hybrid. In the minivan category, Chrysler minivan gives you the most refined ride along with quieter cabins, odyssey is the most car like driving, carnival is the best looking, and sienna is for better mpg. Personally I rather choose Pacifica or carnival and pay a bit more at the pump rather than choosing odyssey and sienna.
"1.6T" -- Put any stress on those microengines in a giant vehicle like Carnival, and they don't give you any better economy that normal ones, but they last half the time. Don't believe the numbers on paper, they are fantasy.
@@mountainhobo 2.5hybrid in Toyota isn’t particularly big engine either. I hate 4cylinder turbos, but that’s today’s norm. If you see accord, 1.5T and 2.0T excels 2.4 and 3.5. If you want Naturally Aspirated big V8, the only option would be Chrysler/Dodge as Toyota is moving to V6 hybrid or turbo in upcoming tundra/Land Cruiser as well. Longevity isn’t a concern because nowadays cars are becoming more of a electronic device that you upgrade for new features, not because it breaks down. And Kia offers 10year/100k power train warranty which I think is long enough, and even longer for hybrid components. I wouldn’t be surprised if the torque curve on 1.6t is better than 2.5 N/A, and being hybrid the electric motor should help with turbo lag at lower rpms.
@@stevenkim9637 "Longevity isn’t a concern because nowadays cars are becoming more of a electronic device that you upgrade for new features, not because it breaks down."
Consumerism at its finest. This could destroy our planet quicker.
How about a 3.0 v6 with a hybrid system with a 0-60 time of 7.0 seconds .... I bet it would still get 30 mpg city / hwy !
How about the 3.5l TT and Electric motor from the Tundra hooked up to a 4wd system on 33" tires? 😂
1x(9/25/22)….1…..7:00……11:30….14:00…..done thank you Excellent
Quick compare to the Odyssey video Alex did:
Odyssey: ruclips.net/video/_oY_3sAIYvg/видео.html
Sienna: ruclips.net/video/8RsCSjvItT0/видео.html
Get a roof rack for your lumber.
Is there a reason the steering wheel in the Sienna is about 1.5 inches off-centre from the driver's seat towards the right? I thought this was a design error in the previous generation of the Sienna but the steering wheel in the new Sienna is off-centre too. If you're left-handed, it will drive you nuts because you can't rest your elbow on the door sill and steer one-handed--the steering wheel is too far away.
That would depend on how long your forearm is..
For an easy entrance
To pick a hybrid vehicle or not also depends on how much do you drive. Yes, you can cover more miles per gallon with a hybrid, but what if you don't drive that much or you can combine your trips better. Alex drives a long way to work everyday, I assume. So the MPG can be very important. But what if he can accomplish a few days of work at home. Then, shouldn't the equation tilts towards a more comfortable ride or a more fun vehicle? Just want to make a case for the Honda or the Kia.
The PHEV is the best for short distances, it’s pure electric. Best performance, better than a V8
The Kia Carnival.. who thought this was a good name 🤣🤣 This is what clowns drive from the circus to their other job at the kangaroo court.
Is there any minivan on market (new) that has no center console so getting from front seat to rear is possible?
Not anymore
The Chrysler Voyager has a low, very minimal center console. You could probably step over that and get to the rear seats.
Come to think of it, many parents would appreciate this to go back attend their kids..say when it is raining outside
I recently test drove the Sienna and the Carnival. I'm torn between the two. I love them both, but for different reasons.
Same here brother! Kia design make it hard to decided!
Sienna - reliability, hybrid economy
Carnival - style, luxury
I would think the reliability and resale value, over time, gives Toyota the edge in an otherwise “tie”
@@kristians2704 the Kia has more luxury specifically the power rear ventilated seats
The sienna offers 4 zone climate, long slide second row, power tilt telescope wheel, and heads up display
@@kristians2704 precisely. It's a really tough call. The deciding factor might be the dealerships. Kia dealers are are asking several thousands over MSRP in my area.
How have you not been able to drive the Carnival? I've seen two on the road already. It actually doesn't look that different overall from the Sedona, which I have.
I swear he has videos on the Carnival? Best guess this was filmed ages ago
I’m assuming this is an older video
This was filmed before I drove the carnival but it got put on the back burner for a while
If you don't have enough tax liability to get the whole $7500 tax credit of a plug-in or electric vehicle (the Pacifica) you can convert part of your traditional IRA to a Roth IRA (which will raise your tax that year) and use the tax credit to pay for the conversion.
Or reduce your witholding to increase what you owe.
Sienna Hybrid saves $1000 a year in gas compared to Ody. How many years does the hybrid battery last? How much does it cost to replace?
Experience with Toyota hybrids is that the batteries can last as long as the car. They do start to lose capacity at over 100k miles, but it's a gradual loss and the car continues to work, if a bit less efficiently. Batteries don't need to be entirely replaced - individual defective cells can be replaced, which costs a lot less than a whole battery.
@@markmiller3279 sounds good to me even if the savings gradually go down. Its still hundreds of dollars a year.
The Sienna is like the gold standard car for fleets. These are going to be the next taxi because of the low running costs and large interior. I would be split between the Sienna and Carnival if I were choosing a minivan, but likely the Sienna because of the MPGs.
The PacHy is the choice for families as +80 mpge is twice that of the Sienna and fits most families daily driving habits. Plus the $7,500 tax credit is icing on the cake!
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Hmmmm but not dependable
Highlander XXL.
plug in sienna would be nice...
I agree! But if Toyota is struggling to make enough RAV4 Primes to meet demand I can’t see a Sienna Prime anytime soon. Logically they will move on to the Highlander Prime next as Toyota sells almost 3x more Highlanders than the Sienna.
That the seats don't come out may kill this for me. Not even by a Toyota technician?