Back in 1999 I bought a new Honda XLV1000 Varadero motorcycle, it was a superb machine, however a few weeks after I have bought it a story emerged in the motorcycle press that some early production units had suffered crankshaft failure which was due to Honda having the cranks machined by an independent supplier. These few early cranks had been machined out of tolerance. Fortunately it did not effect my machine, just shows that things go wrong when you do not keep everything in a tightly controlled supply chain.
@@Peter-Oxley-Modelling-Lab Bugger ,my gtv did 156k with no problems engine or electrical and my 2001 156 is very good too but thats only done 39k in 23 years just had the cambelt done . All cars go wrong tbh but there is so much tech on new cars this has to be paid for somehow , Even mercadies has admitted that there cars are less well made because they have to penny pinch on other areas to pay for all the tech on them
@@neilmcclary Yes thats true! My Alfa CB snapped as I turned the ignition key...the sound of all the valves snapping is something I will never forget! 😩
I'm a mechanic at an independent repair shop in Canada. If you think this type of problem is unique to Honda you are vastly mistaken. Post pandemic parts supply across pretty much all OEMs and aftermarket has tanked. Backordered items for months, no timelines are common and quality control is in the crapper. In my experience Toyota/Lexus, Hyundai/Genesis, Kia, Nissan/Infiniti and Honda/Acura have been fairly reliable for parts. Others are hit and miss, Stellantis Group is easily the bottom of the barrel. We have had vehicles sitting on the lot for as long as six months waiting for parts. Longest I have experienced on a Honda was 6 weeks waiting for an electronic steering column lock for a CRV, the CRV was still drivable though.
@@grrfy Body shop we do mechanical work and alignments for waited 13 months for a roof panel and headliner for a 2022 AMG G 63, the G was 3 months old with less than 1000 kms and was undrivable during that time. First time the owner drove into his garage he didn't realize there wasn't enough clearance and destroyed the roof.
@@eteocles4452 I can believe it this was under a 6 month old mercedes as well, thwen to cap it off they couldnt source a rad grill for another month, all the while expecting folks tio use hire cars provided by insurance, is a scam! Too pee my dad of even more the hire car was an older version of a Volvo he had changed from before he had Merc, so p[aying a monthly for a car he changed as wanted a change. Reply
Took me three visits to fix my fan noise at Honda. They replaced a warranty part and I find that my fan sounds like an afterburner. After 3 more visits they replaced the fan and now I have my nice quiet fan back.
It was always a recommendation to change shocks or springs as a pair Peter. That Braun story was in my opinion one of the uplifting highlights of this century so far. God we need some more in this current miserable world.
Peter - I was in the auto parts business for 35+ years before I retired from that. It's not uncommon for car manufacturers to discontinue parts, sometimes as soon as one year. I worked at a major car-truck dealership for part of my career and many parts, usually interior trim parts or any kind of screw, pin, small plastic part were the first to be discontinued. Usually only one color interior part would be left - black. They no longer made any other color. When computers first came out they would be discontinued and that was it. You could not get a new one - ever- from anywhere. So your vehicle was dead where it was parked. Some cars like the Mitsubishi Starion had electronic struts - once Mitsubishi stopped having the parts made that was it. You would have to find one in a junk yard. I know this does not help your situation but car manufacturers discontinue parts regularly all the time unfortunately. Note I am not defending Honda - not in any way. Absolutely not.
Ford and General Motors are notorious for obsoleting parts once a vehicle gets to 10 years old. At that point you might get lucky with their "Vintage" parts or have to rely on aftermarket.
Flashy tech, whether aimed at improving creature comforts *or* performance are fun while they work, but every level of complication added to any machine comes at the cost of not only increased price, but also decreased reliability and longevity and much higher maintenance costs over the long term. For instance, a certain prominent car company (which will remain nameless here) would have never had a disastrous unintended acceleration problem a few years back if they had stayed with old fashioned cable accelerator linkages (which were cheap, light, and had worked just fine for many decades) instead of switching to a "fly-by-wire" system. When you couple the ever-increasing "sophisticated technology" (aka unnecessary complication) to which car companies feel compelled in order to stay ahead of the competition with post-Covid supply chain issues *and* labor issues, I fear this kind of thing is only going to become more prevalent.
I am onto my 3rd Subaru Forester since 2005, with the latest being a 2011 S-Edition Turbo (basically a WRX engine in a Gumpy). This has done 74,000 km in 13 years... I have had no real issues, except for the first which had the odometer drive fail under warranty - this entailed removing the powerplant to fix! - lucky it was under warranty! However, the quality of the Gumpy's has declined since the 2011 model. They have lost the 2.5 litre turbo engine, and also gone to a CVT gearbox (hopeless for towing boats), and gone from something that was a semi-competent 4WD to a city SUV with 4 driven wheels. Issues are creeping in now - I needed to replace the timing belt because of the age, and not mileage, and some sensors have started to play up. But there is nothing else on the market that can replace the 2011 Turbo!
When you think how long some engines were in production, recent iterations have a mayfly's existence. The Austin A-Series engine of 1951 was still being put into the Mini in the new millennium. More complexity and the expectation of increased power from ever smaller displacement motors.. what could possibly go wrong? Plenty, as it turns out.
In our household, we have had a civic of various types and never have had a problem except for a squeaky clutch pedal. We are now on a petrol hybrid, and it's super.
Some of my Family worked for Honda SWindon it was a real shame it went. My dad asked for a test drive of a wonder 10 years ago, they said they would get back to him when they got that model in, which they did, a year later!!. I have had many difrent brands of car but knobody has ever looked after me as well as Toyota and I am now on my 11th car from them, would not change brand now.
Might be worth checking out removing the adaptive units and fitting normal dampers on both sides. There are resistor kits available which plug in to the harness to bypass the electronics. Not ideal, but might get you out of a bad situation. There are loads of tuning specialists who may be able to advise you.
Hi Peter, I will chip in my 2p worth here, I have been a Workshop Controller for nearly 20 years, mainly Land Rover then JLR and this is a major problem for owners wanting their cars repaired. The problem you highlighted is totally the manufacturers fault, in a cost saving exercise they have outsourced more and more components to other suppliers that they basically want to have assembly plants and no longer want to manufacture their own parts. This leaves them vulnerable to parts shortages even on current models. Manufacturers are only focused on new sales and after sales has always been bottom of the pile in the dealerships and we had the harder job trying to keep the customer happy when things go wrong. New car sales is King. The whole industry is built on rotten foundations as you are now finding out. My last few years as a Controller was for a big commercial truck company and the constant fight for parts from the supplier meant that we couldn’t repair trucks to the standard I was happy with leaving angry operators to continue to run unsafe trucks feeling they could blame the dealership if something went wrong on the roads. In my position I was responsible for signing these trucks off and this became untenable for me so that was the end of my career in the automotive trade. So, yes, your issue is not unusual and I wish you luck in getting your part and I do appreciate your understanding about the safety aspect of the issue. Unfortunately many don’t and they are thundering down the road in 40t trucks!
@@creativetimewasting Thanks for that info; I suspect this situation will only get worse as many of us simply don't want new cars and yet getting older parts will only get tougher...
Honda started out as a manufactuer of 30cc 2 stroke clip on engines for bicycles and his first "factory" was his garden shed@Peter-Oxley-Modelling-Lab
I've had 3 honda's since starting driving and the last two had paint problems also; especially the lacquer coating which i found began to peel off prematurely. I find Honda's nowadays are valued high compared to the refinement they offer - it's bad news peter if they are losing their reputation for world class reliability.
I've a Honda CRV, every year I've serviced it and MOT'd it at my local main dealer who I bought it from new. This year I took it in service, MOT as usual, got the phone call a couple of hours, brake pads and discs are down to such and such %, no that's plenty to pass MOT i said, ah it needs such and such a sensor , will it pass the MOT, yes they said and this went on, so I said no to all these " little bits ", eventually collected the car later that day passed MOT, then I saw the stuff they wanted to do was itemised on the bill, it came to £850 +VAT ! and to top it off the MOT which was done at another garage was signed by the same guy that did the service at Honda ! God was I pissed off. Shall not be going back there
Very sorry to hear this Peter and I feel your frustration and disappointment. I had a similar situation with my own car this year albeit with a different outcome. I drive a 2015 Renault Fluence R-Link which is a top model spec and very nice to drive. I had it with me at Telford the past couple of years. Anyway, it developed two faults this August past, one being with the hydraulic clutch feed pipe which was dealt with without issue and subsequently another which proved more problematic. I have used the same dealer for parts and servicing since I bought the car from them 9 years ago and have devloped a good trusting relationship with them. They are an independent but formerly franchised Renault dealer, Renault changed their dealership business model here in the ROI last year so this particular dealer moved away from that but retained their links to the parts and servicing network. Initially we thought the fault was with the electronic steering column as the diagnostics pointed towards that. To source the part new, which was only available on back order from France, was over €2,000 before fitting! Once I left the car with the dealer it was off the road for 5-6 weeks but they gave me a courtesy car for that period at no additional cost. Subsequently, it turned out that rather than the e-steering column it needed a reversing sensor which the mechanic finally nailed as the issue. Less expensive but the car was still off the road awaiting the part. It certainly illustrated to me the vulnerability of parts production and supply particularly in models which are discontinued a result of which parts may only have a limited productuion run each year before being phased out. This has influenced me to consider changing the car in the new year. I was very lucky though, the difference being the customer and after sales care from the dealership. Honda and dare I say it others too, need to up their game on this. I do hope you have a positive resolution sooner rather than later Peter🙏
I am shocked l worked for in a Honda dealership for 13 years from 1988 to 2001 and 12 in a VW dealership till retirement and if a customer so much as hinted at contacting customer service at the manufacturers we would jump through hoops and did because a dealership would lose it's customer satisfaction bonus which went into tens of thousands of pounds so the dealer principal would be giving us what for in the service dept but it seems that the customer service at the manufacturers don't give a hoot about their customers it not like it's on back order good luck mate in getting this sorted 👍
@@barrywalker8790 Yes, The original dealership (Stuart Graham Honda) were fantastic and even replaced my Accord DPF filter despite failing on the very day the warranty expired! 👍🏻 The owner retired though & They were bought by another business who were hopeless, no Honda experience and other customers I spoke with were unimpressed too...It is sad to see such an impressive manufacturer fall so badly.
As an ex mechanic my advise would be to got back to the independent garage and ask them to take a look at the damper and ask if they would pass it on an mot or even give you an advisory. They can then do the mot for you if so desired.
@@bryan26762 I did take to an independent this time. The damper is clearly leaking fluid at the rear. Even the independent parts guys like Cox cannot source the damper. 😰
You should have bought the Ebbro 1/48 Honda Jet. It's an excellent kit and makes a great model with two choices of decal. I drive Mitsubishi, and have never had a problem. 😊
Ridiculous response from Honda. We had a second-hand 2005 CR-V, which was wonderful for the few years we had it. Unfortunately, it started to rot underneath (Manchester roads are often wet 🤣), and we had to get rid of it. Still miss it now.
I had an MY2005 S2000 in Berlina black. It was unreal…but I had a throttle arm fault so it kangarood at low revs when hot. Lloyds Honda Carlisle were the only dealer that could fix it as HondaUK only had one specialist that actually understood the car and fortunately Lloyds knew that. lol. But high revs were it’s home no low down torque at all and mine was the last year before traction control. Oooft. In cold and damp it was a handful. I sold it to a fighter pilot at Leeming. Lol
Peter. I had the hatch version here in Australia (no wagon version available here). I loved the shape. Still think it’s a cool shape. Everything else you mentioned, same here. 👍 Moved to a Toyota C-HR now. Cool shape too! I’m a bit like you too when it comes to looking after cars etc. cheers mate.
I had a 2005 accord tourer with the CDTi 2.2 fantastic car. How sad that quality and service has gone downhill. Hopefully you can galvanise them into action via RUclips and other means
@@philipdray-de8gq You are quite right Phillip, I forgot they lost the Honda engines when they suddenly pulled out at end of '92! Same thing again though...bad decisions. (So they won 6 titles, 86-91).
Look at 1970s Hi Fi built like a tank and loads still working even today40/ 50 years later .then it all went made of plastic and very poor quality hence why you dont see much of that tat around any more
@@neilmcclary Yeah, you are definitely NOT wrong! I had a beautiful Sony 1990 Hifi system but lost it due to burglary, the JVC I replaced it with was nowhere near the same quality despite costing more.
Thats them darned eco EU rules for you, acrylic paint nowhere near as sturdy as old style2pack.As well as this Honda paint has always been a little brittle.VW group paint is really really hard, brings it's own problems ,just different ones.I still rocking a 2002 JDM import, Honda peak Honda! nothing goe wrong.Japanese built honda especially those only for ther JDM market are just better.
@@Peter-Oxley-Modelling-Lab get yourself a JDM import oddesey, beautiful cars and fast as the proverbial SOAS ,the civic estate looks like a mini version .but Oddesey has with 7 seats.
Also has the best most reliableengines Honda ever made the k20/24 vtec, As for parts for things , It took mercedes over 2 months to get a current models bonnet last year , Its not just Honda tbf
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Back in 1999 I bought a new Honda XLV1000 Varadero motorcycle, it was a superb machine, however a few weeks after I have bought it a story emerged in the motorcycle press that some early production units had suffered crankshaft failure which was due to Honda having the cranks machined by an independent supplier. These few early cranks had been machined out of tolerance. Fortunately it did not effect my machine, just shows that things go wrong when you do not keep everything in a tightly controlled supply chain.
This is why I drive a 23year old alfa 156 and a 26 year old alfa gtv for 6 years before that
My New 2001 Alfa 156 Sportwagon broke down twice...electrics and cambellt snapped 20k miles earlier than required to change= engine rebuild!
@@Peter-Oxley-Modelling-Lab Bugger ,my gtv did 156k with no problems engine or electrical and my 2001 156 is very good too but thats only done 39k in 23 years just had the cambelt done . All cars go wrong tbh but there is so much tech on new cars this has to be paid for somehow , Even mercadies has admitted that there cars are less well made because they have to penny pinch on other areas to pay for all the tech on them
@@neilmcclary Yes thats true! My Alfa CB snapped as I turned the ignition key...the sound of all the valves snapping is something I will never forget! 😩
I’d buy Electric but the long enough bargepole hasn’t been invented yet.
Lol! 😂
I'm a mechanic at an independent repair shop in Canada. If you think this type of problem is unique to Honda you are vastly mistaken. Post pandemic parts supply across pretty much all OEMs and aftermarket has tanked. Backordered items for months, no timelines are common and quality control is in the crapper. In my experience Toyota/Lexus, Hyundai/Genesis, Kia, Nissan/Infiniti and Honda/Acura have been fairly reliable for parts. Others are hit and miss, Stellantis Group is easily the bottom of the barrel. We have had vehicles sitting on the lot for as long as six months waiting for parts. Longest I have experienced on a Honda was 6 weeks waiting for an electronic steering column lock for a CRV, the CRV was still drivable though.
waited almost 3 months for a current model Merc bonnet lkast year, father not impressed lol
@@grrfy Body shop we do mechanical work and alignments for waited 13 months for a roof panel and headliner for a 2022 AMG G 63, the G was 3 months old with less than 1000 kms and was undrivable during that time. First time the owner drove into his garage he didn't realize there wasn't enough clearance and destroyed the roof.
@@eteocles4452 I can believe it this was under a 6 month old mercedes as well, thwen to cap it off they couldnt source a rad grill for another month, all the while expecting folks tio use hire cars provided by insurance, is a scam! Too pee my dad of even more the hire car was an older version of a Volvo he had changed from before he had Merc, so p[aying a monthly for a car he changed as wanted a change.
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Took me three visits to fix my fan noise at Honda. They replaced a warranty part and I find that my fan sounds like an afterburner. After 3 more visits they replaced the fan and now I have my nice quiet fan back.
It was always a recommendation to change shocks or springs as a pair Peter. That Braun story was in my opinion one of the uplifting highlights of this century so far. God we need some more in this current miserable world.
Agree totally 100% Dave! 👍🏻
Peter - I was in the auto parts business for 35+ years before I retired from that. It's not uncommon for car manufacturers to discontinue parts, sometimes as soon as one year. I worked at a major car-truck dealership for part of my career and many parts, usually interior trim parts or any kind of screw, pin, small plastic part were the first to be discontinued. Usually only one color interior part would be left - black. They no longer made any other color. When computers first came out they would be discontinued and that was it. You could not get a new one - ever- from anywhere. So your vehicle was dead where it was parked. Some cars like the Mitsubishi Starion had electronic struts - once Mitsubishi stopped having the parts made that was it. You would have to find one in a junk yard. I know this does not help your situation but car manufacturers discontinue parts regularly all the time unfortunately. Note I am not defending Honda - not in any way. Absolutely not.
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Ford and General Motors are notorious for obsoleting parts once a vehicle gets to 10 years old. At that point you might get lucky with their "Vintage" parts or have to rely on aftermarket.
Flashy tech, whether aimed at improving creature comforts *or* performance are fun while they work, but every level of complication added to any machine comes at the cost of not only increased price, but also decreased reliability and longevity and much higher maintenance costs over the long term. For instance, a certain prominent car company (which will remain nameless here) would have never had a disastrous unintended acceleration problem a few years back if they had stayed with old fashioned cable accelerator linkages (which were cheap, light, and had worked just fine for many decades) instead of switching to a "fly-by-wire" system. When you couple the ever-increasing "sophisticated technology" (aka unnecessary complication) to which car companies feel compelled in order to stay ahead of the competition with post-Covid supply chain issues *and* labor issues, I fear this kind of thing is only going to become more prevalent.
Well said indeed...I couldn't agree more. 👍🏻 😕
I am onto my 3rd Subaru Forester since 2005, with the latest being a 2011 S-Edition Turbo (basically a WRX engine in a Gumpy). This has done 74,000 km in 13 years... I have had no real issues, except for the first which had the odometer drive fail under warranty - this entailed removing the powerplant to fix! - lucky it was under warranty! However, the quality of the Gumpy's has declined since the 2011 model. They have lost the 2.5 litre turbo engine, and also gone to a CVT gearbox (hopeless for towing boats), and gone from something that was a semi-competent 4WD to a city SUV with 4 driven wheels. Issues are creeping in now - I needed to replace the timing belt because of the age, and not mileage, and some sensors have started to play up. But there is nothing else on the market that can replace the 2011 Turbo!
@@markgordon2260 I think there is going to be business opportunties fro those restoring these cars soon!
@@markgordon2260 I forgot to say, I had a new Subaru Imprezza in 1996. It was totally reliable.
When you think how long some engines were in production, recent iterations have a mayfly's existence. The Austin A-Series engine of 1951 was still being put into the Mini in the new millennium. More complexity and the expectation of increased power from ever smaller displacement motors.. what could possibly go wrong? Plenty, as it turns out.
In our household, we have had a civic of various types and never have had a problem except for a squeaky clutch pedal. We are now on a petrol hybrid, and it's super.
@@stuartsteel1 How's the paint?
Some of my Family worked for Honda SWindon it was a real shame it went. My dad asked for a test drive of a wonder 10 years ago, they said they would get back to him when they got that model in, which they did, a year later!!. I have had many difrent brands of car but knobody has ever looked after me as well as Toyota and I am now on my 11th car from them, would not change brand now.
Hi Jason, Yes, My Toyota GT86 got great service from RRG Toyota Macclesfield too. 👍🏻
Might be worth checking out removing the adaptive units and fitting normal dampers on both sides. There are resistor kits available which plug in to the harness to bypass the electronics. Not ideal, but might get you out of a bad situation. There are loads of tuning specialists who may be able to advise you.
Thanks...I will investigate further
Honda have stuffed up big time here in Australia too. Shame really.
I sympathize with you Pete....get it fixed and sell it!
ICM should take over where Honda is lacking
yes indeed John! 😂
Hi Peter, I will chip in my 2p worth here, I have been a Workshop Controller for nearly 20 years, mainly Land Rover then JLR and this is a major problem for owners wanting their cars repaired. The problem you highlighted is totally the manufacturers fault, in a cost saving exercise they have outsourced more and more components to other suppliers that they basically want to have assembly plants and no longer want to manufacture their own parts. This leaves them vulnerable to parts shortages even on current models. Manufacturers are only focused on new sales and after sales has always been bottom of the pile in the dealerships and we had the harder job trying to keep the customer happy when things go wrong. New car sales is King.
The whole industry is built on rotten foundations as you are now finding out.
My last few years as a Controller was for a big commercial truck company and the constant fight for parts from the supplier meant that we couldn’t repair trucks to the standard I was happy with leaving angry operators to continue to run unsafe trucks feeling they could blame the dealership if something went wrong on the roads.
In my position I was responsible for signing these trucks off and this became untenable for me so that was the end of my career in the automotive trade.
So, yes, your issue is not unusual and I wish you luck in getting your part and I do appreciate your understanding about the safety aspect of the issue. Unfortunately many don’t and they are thundering down the road in 40t trucks!
@@creativetimewasting Thanks for that info; I suspect this situation will only get worse as many of us simply don't want new cars and yet getting older parts will only get tougher...
@ I have an analogue car as back up. As long as I can get petrol I will remain mobile. 🛻
Honda started out as a manufactuer of 30cc 2 stroke clip on engines for bicycles and his first "factory" was his garden shed@Peter-Oxley-Modelling-Lab
I've had 3 honda's since starting driving and the last two had paint problems also; especially the lacquer coating which i found began to peel off prematurely.
I find Honda's nowadays are valued high compared to the refinement they offer - it's bad news peter if they are losing their reputation for world class reliability.
@@NPractitioner Yes the lacquer top-coat was strong before but now the weak link in the paint finish: My own Civic Tourer has a very poor clear coat…
Getting to the end of the video, what a shocking experience Peter, what a woeful tale, extremely poor show from Honda
I've a Honda CRV, every year I've serviced it and MOT'd it at my local main dealer who I bought it from new. This year I took it in service, MOT as usual, got the phone call a couple of hours, brake pads and discs are down to such and such %, no that's plenty to pass MOT i said, ah it needs such and such a sensor , will it pass the MOT, yes they said and this went on, so I said no to all these " little bits ", eventually collected the car later that day passed MOT, then I saw the stuff they wanted to do was itemised on the bill, it came to £850 +VAT ! and to top it off the MOT which was done at another garage was signed by the same guy that did the service at Honda ! God was I pissed off. Shall not be going back there
@@PeterESmith-hn6ll Hmmm...same sort if thing. They have definitely fallen from grace! 😞
This is why I paid 5K for a Scott bicycle.....it actually gives back everyday and no ring puckering required from a dealer ✌️
Always a pleasure chap.
Very sorry to hear this Peter and I feel your frustration and disappointment. I had a similar situation with my own car this year albeit with a different outcome.
I drive a 2015 Renault Fluence R-Link which is a top model spec and very nice to drive. I had it with me at Telford the past couple of years. Anyway, it developed two faults this August past, one being with the hydraulic clutch feed pipe which was dealt with without issue and subsequently another which proved more problematic. I have used the same dealer for parts and servicing since I bought the car from them 9 years ago and have devloped a good trusting relationship with them. They are an independent but formerly franchised Renault dealer, Renault changed their dealership business model here in the ROI last year so this particular dealer moved away from that but retained their links to the parts and servicing network. Initially we thought the fault was with the electronic steering column as the diagnostics pointed towards that. To source the part new, which was only available on back order from France, was over €2,000 before fitting! Once I left the car with the dealer it was off the road for 5-6 weeks but they gave me a courtesy car for that period at no additional cost.
Subsequently, it turned out that rather than the e-steering column it needed a reversing sensor which the mechanic finally nailed as the issue. Less expensive but the car was still off the road awaiting the part. It certainly illustrated to me the vulnerability of parts production and supply particularly in models which are discontinued a result of which parts may only have a limited productuion run each year before being phased out. This has influenced me to consider changing the car in the new year.
I was very lucky though, the difference being the customer and after sales care from the dealership. Honda and dare I say it others too, need to up their game on this. I do hope you have a positive resolution sooner rather than later Peter🙏
@@jeff72_ Thanks Jeff! Interesting to hear that. 👍🏻 I will keep my 🤞🏻
I am shocked l worked for in a Honda dealership for 13 years from 1988 to 2001 and 12 in a VW dealership till retirement and if a customer so much as hinted at contacting customer service at the manufacturers we would jump through hoops and did because a dealership would lose it's customer satisfaction bonus which went into tens of thousands of pounds so the dealer principal would be giving us what for in the service dept but it seems that the customer service at the manufacturers don't give a hoot about their customers it not like it's on back order good luck mate in getting this sorted 👍
@@barrywalker8790 Yes, The original dealership (Stuart Graham Honda) were fantastic and even replaced my Accord DPF filter despite failing on the very day the warranty expired! 👍🏻 The owner retired though & They were bought by another business who were hopeless, no Honda experience and other customers I spoke with were unimpressed too...It is sad to see such an impressive manufacturer fall so badly.
As an ex mechanic my advise would be to got back to the independent garage and ask them to take a look at the damper and ask if they would pass it on an mot or even give you an advisory.
They can then do the mot for you if so desired.
@@bryan26762 I did take to an independent this time. The damper is clearly leaking fluid at the rear. Even the independent parts guys like Cox cannot source the damper. 😰
Thanks for sharing Peter. Good to know. I hope everything works out soon.
Thanks Aubrey...I hope so too. 😢
You should have bought the Ebbro 1/48 Honda Jet. It's an excellent kit and makes a great model with two choices of decal. I drive Mitsubishi, and have never had a problem. 😊
Lol! 😂
Ridiculous response from Honda. We had a second-hand 2005 CR-V, which was wonderful for the few years we had it. Unfortunately, it started to rot underneath (Manchester roads are often wet 🤣), and we had to get rid of it. Still miss it now.
It's like they put they short-term bean-counters in charge...😒
I had an MY2005 S2000 in Berlina black. It was unreal…but I had a throttle arm fault so it kangarood at low revs when hot. Lloyds Honda Carlisle were the only dealer that could fix it as HondaUK only had one specialist that actually understood the car and fortunately Lloyds knew that. lol. But high revs were it’s home no low down torque at all and mine was the last year before traction control. Oooft. In cold and damp it was a handful. I sold it to a fighter pilot at Leeming. Lol
Peter. I had the hatch version here in Australia (no wagon version available here). I loved the shape. Still think it’s a cool shape. Everything else you mentioned, same here. 👍 Moved to a Toyota C-HR now. Cool shape too! I’m a bit like you too when it comes to looking after cars etc. cheers mate.
In terms of Japanese cars Toyota is the ticket. But Honda makes more aesthetically pleasing designs.
I had a 2005 accord tourer with the CDTi 2.2 fantastic car. How sad that quality and service has gone downhill. Hopefully you can galvanise them into action via RUclips and other means
Mclaren were Mercedes powered in 98 and 99 when flying finn won his titles
@@philipdray-de8gq You are quite right Phillip, I forgot they lost the Honda engines when they suddenly pulled out at end of '92! Same thing again though...bad decisions. (So they won 6 titles, 86-91).
Look at 1970s Hi Fi built like a tank and loads still working even today40/ 50 years later .then it all went made of plastic and very poor quality hence why you dont see much of that tat around any more
@@neilmcclary Yeah, you are definitely NOT wrong! I had a beautiful Sony 1990 Hifi system but lost it due to burglary, the JVC I replaced it with was nowhere near the same quality despite costing more.
I guess it's a bit like Man City dropping down the table.
😱😱 uber surprised @ Honda letting you down m Lud ,this truly is the end of the empire😭😭
Get the damper when its in stock,get it through the m.o.t. and then sell it and get another car....it then be someone else problem Peter
@@Damien-q8t I could do that of course...But that's kind of tough...and it doesn't absove Honda from their total failure
@Peter-Oxley-Modelling-Lab true Peter but sometimes its best to just walk away
Thats them darned eco EU rules for you, acrylic paint nowhere near as sturdy as old style2pack.As well as this Honda paint has always been a little brittle.VW group paint is really really hard, brings it's own problems ,just different ones.I still rocking a 2002 JDM import, Honda peak Honda! nothing goe wrong.Japanese built honda especially those only for ther JDM market are just better.
@@grrfy Agree ...100%!
@@Peter-Oxley-Modelling-Lab get yourself a JDM import oddesey, beautiful cars and fast as the proverbial SOAS ,the civic estate looks like a mini version .but Oddesey has with 7 seats.
Also has the best most reliableengines Honda ever made the k20/24 vtec, As for parts for things , It took mercedes over 2 months to get a current models bonnet last year , Its not just Honda tbf
I can believe when Hondas PR people see this video you will get a courtesy car 👍👍
@@anjkovo2138 I hope you are right, Anj, but I am not convinced they really care...😕
Foreign rubbish!
Buy a Jaguar!………………….🤦♂️
@@PeteCourtier D'oh! 😖
Have you not seen the advert??? Faguar it is now