The Current State of MapleStory | Summer 2024
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- Опубликовано: 28 июн 2024
- So I am working on a new account again for another zero to hero series, and as I was progressing I really was noticing how different MapleStory is compared to a year ago. So I figured it was time for another Current state of MapleStory video! Because things are once again very different as MapleStory keeps evolving throughout the years.
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"Rawdogging a character to lv260" is a coppersan quote for the ages
To me the recent changes have been decent, tho i will never fully regain my trust in Nexon again, the damage has been done.
for the past 16 years people have been saying this every 6 months.
ok buddy, see you next character revamp LMAO!
more like 7th job’s release LOL!
@@MacMush Nah man, maybe after 14th job and big bang 5
I still don't trust them
Honestly what’s the point of having 1st to 4th job anymore? It used to be one of the soul purposes of the game and nowadays it takes more time to put your points into sp than it is to get to lvl 100 for 4th job adv
very good question actually. If you look at things in the big picture you will understand it is just easier to add content on top of existing systems than to try to cater for legacy accounts when changing systems. Also for returning players it would be weird if job advancement system changed too much.
Maybe because some classes got Combo attakcs which requires em to do different skills from each Job and level skill + some passives or toggled skill also you start as a level 1 not 100 or 120 so it should stay and exist to make sense ?
@@sketchdevil5194all I’m saying is there is no real functionality to the job advancement in these levels. If getting to 100 takes 15 minutes there is no real need in the 1-4 job feature.
In old times getting to 2nd 3rd and 4th job was a MASSIVE milestone. Now doing the advancements is just a chore.
@@aloneliraz it takes 15 mins because of the event going on rn. You don’t have to participate and you can always, just like coppersan says, rawdog your character. It takes a decent amount of time to level your character to 4th job but not months on end to get to lvl 30 like in pre-bb days.
1st to 4th job is to get to know the class your playing and what to expect in both mobbing and bossing. Also going from 1st job to maybe Level 200 there's gonna also be a storyline which u will get to know the story of the class you're playing.
i miss the day where strangers would say "gz" or "gratz" whenever someone level up
Considering I've seen players pop like 9 levels in a row (burning events) you'd get a warning for spam lmao
My guild still does this when people are like 250+
great state, just dont start a maint 5 minutes after warning people and then give them a box that is borderline useless for a lot of people (doesnt even make up for missing mpe, dailies)
a SINGLE ex growth pot is so funny 💀
And they also made it that the potion can’t be put in storage too. I just claimed them all on my main and was surprised to see I couldn’t store it for one of my legion characters
Idk maybe I'm too old school, but I really hate how fast you level 1-200. You get very little time to enjoy those jobs before you have to move on. And it makes alot of the quests you get at each group of ten levels very redundant
You definitely have time to enjoy this game in the early levels, just don’t use any exp coupons, don’t wear any equipment and just play however “easy” you want
Guess what? You don't have to level fast, you can go at your own pace. But after making 10+ characters for legion, I appreciate the fast leveling. And yeah, I played maple back in 06.
Tbh you are stuck with most of your skills on 1st til 4th. 5th and 7th just add long cd skills. It's impractical to ignore the starter skills.
@@fasddfadfgasdgs It's not that you're old. Majority of the player base are in their mid to late 20's and early thirties. You just dont have the willingness to learn the new mechanics. Its just that simple. The game has progressed and the game focuses heavily on 200-285. Areas you havent bothered exploring so you say things like this.
Been truly enjoying the game so much lately. I hope they keep it up :D
Yo amazing recap thank you brother!
The thing I miss about old school maplestory is the slow past it used to have . It would take so long to level up and do quests. Players would actually take the time to visit and explore. As simple as going into shops and buying potions and exploring the towns . Now everything is so quick and u don’t have to time to appreciate anything in maplestory. Just walking around the world and taking the time to appreciate every monster, being excited to party quest and hoping to gain 1-2 levels a day.
Gameplay is now completely different, while you like the nostalgia and trying everything out, I prefer progression and slowly moving to new maps, new bosses, and new content.
It's still slow pace just the goal post changed.. try get to 300 .
@@mattcee7113 Brain dead new player
@@pompomdidi Is that or being even slower to get to 300 or good gear, if you want to pq and go to the maps you can still do, fill the monster collection, get the cards, etc. If you want you can level up without events, bonks, exp coupon, etc
I’m sorry but 95% of all players now would quit IMMEDIATELY if shit was that slow back then. The game was dogshit back then but the social aspect made up for it, but now neither aspect is here anymore
The state is amazing.... for old players, if someone new comes they will not understand what is a first job or second because it's so fast, you have A LOT of skills when you get to 200 you probably wouldn't know where to put them or still use 2nd job or 1st job skill when 200+. Probably this was not intentional but MapleStory has a horrible gatekeep now.
I have basically been playing on and off for years since i started in 08? 09? I passed 1500 hours in steam and I probably have hundreds more before i started using it to log my usage. I admit i have started over with new accounts, but I have a few characters that I rawdogged past level 200 in reboot. I decided to shift back to interactive by burning a night walker, and I am still learning stuff about how to optimize my stats.
There is plenty of info out there, but if an idiot like me takes thousands of hours to figure out basic things like how there are two different types of potentials or how to find the secret map to begin the Princess No prequest... well I feel bad for new players lol
Great video coppersan. I’d love to see an account progression update from you. Is shade still your main? Or did you switch to kain? What are you plans to progress for your account? I hope you make a video discussing this!
so you're saying it's time to come back to the game after more than a year of not playing, huh
I loled when you said "RAAR MAAR WAAR" 😂😂
Maplesea is still fked ... Meso changes with no meso cube , genius
Come GMS then
Go gms and get banned 😢
tl;dr - MSEA's director/board needs to push these needed aggressive changes without fear of Nexon Korea's retaliation. It's unlikely to happen given the mix of similar cultures between regions and the population which is smaller than GMS', but I do hope it happens.
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Pretty much all the recent GMS changes have been pushed by its new director, a movement that could be seen by Nexon Korea as a direct confrontation against them, but likely backed up by GMS' decline over the last years and presented as a plan to keep the game going long term to their board to avoid retaliation from Korea. You can bet Inkwell's not in a good light at the moment back in Nexon Korea.
For MSEA to improve, something similar would need to happen. My thoughts is that this is much less likely to happen for MSEA given the similarities in cultures between this region and Korea; they're more likely to bend to the latter's will rather than confront their point of view.
I sure hope I'm proven wrong in the foreseable future though!
I play on the Reboot server and I feel like the 3k mob daily for sol fragments is contributing a lot to burnout. It is one of the most important dailies because of how predictably consistent progression feels, but it feels really grindy. It doesn't even line up with the mob requirements for Grandis dailies which I would say is 2k max (I am up to Shangri-la and maxed Cernium symbols and I am always choosing my most recent sacred symbol from selectors). It really takes its toll between bossing, leveling up mules, events, et cetera (monster park, high mountain).
And mid-late game feels horrible when you save up lots of mesos and soul frags to not get anything during these rare discount/rate-ups. But that's just the nature of maple I guess.
it is a grindy game , thats literally what this game is all about. Nothing wrong with being a casual daily player but you can't complain you have to grind when the main aspect of the game is grinding ...
@@masterace1071 I never said it wasn't a grindy game. But the fact is with the addition of 6th job there is an unnecessary need to farm another 1k mob. If you want to for exp go ahead and train. I am only just pointing out a factor that can impact player satisfaction and retention that has already affected some like myself. And how does it impact you in any way if the requirement decreased down to 2k?
Tbh it gets easier the more sacred symbol areas you unlock. Killing 3k mobs in 1 area sucks but killing 1500 in one area and 500 in 3 other area makes it feel better
hey youtube, coppersan here.... gets me everytime
I kinda wanna go back to playing Maple but since I haven't played for over 10 years now.. just to think about what to do and all the systems this game has already makes me give up on that idea, wouldn't know where to begin
You don’t have to do things optimally, you can play it for fun just to see how the animations of the different class changed. That’s how I restarted
It is really not that hard anymore to progress, sad to say, especially not on reboot.
If you're thinking of going into it i can help out with tips.
This game is still very much worth your time, albeit in moderation.
Theres plenty of info out there. I would say to start by making friends :) that will 100% get you further ahead than video guide.
3:55 never saw that throwing star event :O
I miss Maplestory before pirate class. When getting to 70 was INSANE
I love playing reboot. I think people complain too much. I don't love how much FOMO content there is though. WAY too many dailies and weeklies. But learning how to let go about caring about that is a great skill to learn for children and adults alike :)
I’ve been wanting to get into maplestory but what is end game? Is there pvp? Every video I see from what I’ve searched just shows leveling/grinding as “the game” and nothing at max level unless I’m missing something
End-game changes very frequently which is good, since it means the game is alive and being updated regularly.
There was PvP back in 2010/2012 or something like that, but not anymore
End game is about the bossing in maple story next to fashion story, at least in heroic world. In contrast to what people say, hands matter in maplestory end game bossing and there is a degree of skill expression in general
it is a grindy mmo , progression is the main goal. End game is all about party bossing, basically like raiding from other mmos (altho its only 6 man party).
I love this game since I was a kid, I'm gonna play it again
As someone who took a long hiatus from like, last year to just before Go West, I 100% agree with your views in this video x3
05:05 Regular/Interactive*
If you ever need to know how non-existent Inter is to him
That mistake might as well not be one kek
Releasing this one day after the 7 hour emergency maintenance is actually kinda funny.
I like where the game is at, but GMS gotta clean it up on the maintenance end.
stop exploiting bugs then
@@Dnite13 players of every game will always take free stuff, it’s on the devs to prevent it and to fix it as soon as they can
@@Dnite13Because people commenting on maintenance times are always exploiters, obviously.
@@dragostorm259 blame the players, every game has bugs
@@bigmanalexx_ and they did, plus 7 day bans
what class is abyssal san???
When I enter the cash shop to claim RP it says "You dont have any RP to claim" , Does it mean i got too much for this month? If there's such limitation..?
Yes there is a monthly “soft cap” through playing. Technically there is no cap if you’re willing to spend on NX, since your NX purchases get you RP.
Is farming still the only realistic way to get nodestones in reboot?
Just turned Lv. 260 this morning on my main from 2009. Wtf … those EXP stones you need to fill with 50 mill EXP each 😢I will wait with 6th job advancement when it changes
I know its a snowballs chance, but what I would give for an Old School server that only has the adventures and creates new content much like OSRS, it would be absolutely amazing.
Okay I'm not crazy at 5:04 coppersan calls the interactive server the heroic server. A big double take when he said the heroic server could trade after he just talked about how the heroic server could not trade.
100% agree
Maplestory is a marathon
5:15 you said heroic can trade instead of interactive!
I haven’t played in years, is it worth to continue on the mobile version?
Now we need someone to do same current state of maple story for msea kekw
Yukinon already did
is buying insane stat items still a thing? Like I don't really appreciate the whole random chance cube stuff; is free market still good?
Happy Father’s Day
Would be even better if they renoved the dutch restrictions... like they did for mabinogi...
We need a tier list 🥺🥺🥺
2:35 LMAO ‘raw dog’ to 260 😂 that’s how you end up with IRL mini me alts
me: i wanna play ms
past me: dailies, fomo, grind just to boom, solo play, cube rng, exp bar doesnt move
me: ahhhhh, nevermind
200 in 30 minutes, so weird, when I played lv 30 took ages. Do you even take the time to level up early job skills now?
You said in heroic servers we can trade I’m sure you meant interactive @5:15
I hate how hard it is to obtain throwing stars these days
my biggest gripe is the amount of daily content. it's way too fucking high.
Getting to level 200 is legit insufferable, at least for me
I have an old friend who reminisces with me about Maple. She tells me how much she misses it all the time, but she hasn't played since around 2015. I told her that she should just hold onto those memories, throw on the soundtrack once in a while, and just pretend the game doesn't exist anymore. It's not the same Maple, and I'd posture that 75% of the changes are either bad (in the long run) or too weird.
What's the point of Level 1-200 if you can blow past it in half a day.
What's the point of all the skills from 1st to 3rd Job when (barring a handful of combo attacks that rely on them) they are overshadowed SO FAST by 4th+ job skills. (I remember quite often getting into 3rd job and still having to use skills for a bit from 2nd, to ease the gap. Same with 3rd to 4th.)
What's the point of cool-looking weapons when most every attack from 4th Job on takes up half the screen or more.
What's the point of having all the cute small sidequests that defined Maple as a game when stopping to do them actually *takes time away* from leveling, so nobody does them. So they never get love.
What's the point of having areas full of beautiful pixel art when you're just teleporting directly to the next grinding zone.
What's the point of PQs (at least the old-school ones) when they reward *worse* than basic gear you get from grinding monsters.
What's. The. Point. Of. Mushroom Game.
I miss Maple Story so much. But this is not that Maple Story. I'd kill for a "Maple Story Classic" server, Nexon. I'd pay a sub, even.
This gave me aids to read and I hope you never return to the game. At this point where you're asking questions like this when the game is in its best state ever, the issue is clearly you and not the game. You cling onto the past and refuse to move on. The game has been here for 20+ years , they are clearly doing something right. If you never once gave todays game a genuine chance, then please move on and don't comment on the games state because this comment radiates ignorant energy and it aint cute.
Whats the point of 1-220 if you can blow past it in half a day ? No new player can do that. A veteran player can though, dont be mistaken on that. The whole basis of 1-200 is learning the BASICS which translates to 5th job from 200-300.
Whats the point of learning 1st to 3rd jobs ? Some classes utilize like Cadenas utilize their 1st to 4th jobs so idk what the you're on about. Same with Ark and a few others. For majority like I said , its to learn the BASICS which translates to 5th job. Not all classes utilize their 1st to 3rd job skills but a handful still do.
Whats the point of cool looking weapons when your skills takes up majority of the screen? It looks cool thats why. You can set your skills to be transparent and look at your weapon if you want. Why complain if thats an option.
Whats the post of side quests? Honestly true. Side quests suck anyways so yea.
Whats the point of beautiful areas with nice art when you go to the next grinding map ? Respectfully everyone trains at different paces. Some others will be slow, some others will be fast. If you want to appreciate the areas, whats stopping you ? Go and appreciate the art and take your time LOL. I may not have a purpose training in those areas anymore but I'll hop by anyways and visit old places that I haven't been to in a long time.
Whats the point of PQs ? Nostalgia probably. Probably for the better anyways.
I hope this satisfies you. Do comment back if your lady friend is interested in playing the game. I'd be down to play with her and show her a great time is with mushroom game.
Nexon will never release a classic Maple server, they wouldn't even do it before Mapleland, now Mapleland is out, its hopeless. They would rather keep their current playerbase chained to this current version of Maplestory, a slot machine lobby game. Where the entire game revolves around swiping and gambling.
5:10, i assume you meant interactive servers?
how to play in GMS? my region is in MSEA and cant seems to set an account on nexon website. 😮💨
VPN
You'd think getting lvl 1-200 would be great but it's just too whiplash to suddenly stop. Like why bother 1-200 within a blink of an eye and just get rid of that all together?
It's fast because they want to make it easier for people to get their Legion going. If you don't know what that is then its probably best to not ask questions because you're not getting to 1-200 in a blink of an eye.
I do feel like they should up the level requirements for job advancements and smooth out the skill curve per advancement by moving some skills earlier down the tree
Make it interfalls that increase by 10 every advancement, so: 10, 40, 80, 130, 190, 260
I still like Maple, I am just playing too many other games to keep playing it. Currently playing overwatch, elden ring, black desert, destiny 2, and the war within and dawntrail on the horizon...
IMO game is too focus on solo play and not group oriented anymore.
Idk why people think this is true. Every week I party with 6 people to do group oriented stuff. Having to grind solo to get up to that point is where you guys are stuck at and honestly, maybe you're just not built for the game and that's fine.
@@yyyyyooo98 Nice copium. Not a single MMO gatekeep their new players from group content like Maplestory does, yet you're still finding ways to defend it. You're right about one thing, most people aren't built to play a slot machine lobby game like the current MS, where the entire game revolves around making bossing mules and tapping your gear, like a casino RNG slot machine game.
Daily/ weekly story and monster park dailies sounds so tiring 😢
Game hasn't been as fun since Unleashed rip party play training meta.
growth system is about a constant investment well motivated by updating contents
its just so far off from what it was. Now its just grind grind short dopamine boosts from random rewards. Before we ran around doing stuff
god forbid the game change and evolve after 20 years. These boomer comments about how the game changed are so cringe , its literally all nostalgia. The game was objectively so ass back then , it was a fun casual social game that we enjoyed as kids. But as an actual mmo it was a pointless endless grind with no content. Doing pqs over and over get boring pretty fast as an adult once you are done with the whole ''explore the world'' aspect of the game.
@@masterace1071 change? It's i like mobile game hooked on korean crack
@@masterace1071 All I see is facts. Boomer comments are so cringe that I am actually wasting my night commenting on some of them because I am so triggered. I've been having boat loads of fun with my guild mates and everytime I hop on a coppersan / daboki video all I see is nostalgia driven boomers that havent touched the game since they were 8 years old talking about how amazing old Maple is.
The time commitment is just too much. You spend 1-2 hours a day just doing dailies and weeklies. Then you have to do all the event quests. Doesnt give you much time to explore and do other stuff
I spend 15min pet daily and maybe 2 hours at most for weekly per char.
@@fasddfadfgasdgs i cant even do monster park and mpe in 15 minutes. The thing is the game incentivizes u to do dailies/weeklies on multiple chars
Yeah.. im sticking with pre BB pservers.
have fun playing in your dead servers where you grind endlessly for no reason with no content lmao.
I started playing again on pre BB server a week a go, its been great!
@@masterace1071 I mean, I don't like people who ride on the old school pserver scene too but they are not dead at all lmao. mapleroyals for example has been alive for at least a decade now or around that.. same with legends... they just avoid dmca by putting their servers in russia or some shit where dmca is not applicable
@@Backslash962 Respectfully, todays standard 1.5k players would be considered dead. If GMS had a total of 1.5k players.. LOL ! I aint hating though. What MapleRoyals has done is great and would like them to keep going to cater for that specific audience.
The issue is the updates are always the same thing with not a single bit of diversity.
I am happy with where GMS is now but I am not confident of the future. As all the servers have received their meso cap at this point, most of them are indifferent to it now. TMS streamers almost don't care about it, MSEA has people complaining but whales keep doing their thang. KMS has stabilized at this point. What I am trying to say is someone from KMS is gonna go "yeah seems like meso cap is well received, let's do it for GMS" and it all goes south from there. I am just not sure how long more Inkwell is gonna be able to stop this.
We are really this one update away from everything going to shit again. Here's hoping it will never happen.
Me too!! I feel like after some time they're gonna get lazy with the coding and just copy and paste it from kms again. I'll just enjoy it while it lasts and when it eventually happens find a new game to play. Ain't nobody got time for that
Trust me. In msea, its NOT well received. More than 50% of the population have quit ever since that announcement 😂
Meso cap is shit when you have a system so meso hungry like starforcing and cubing on regular
the numbers set in this game is rigged to keep you addicted. kms got punished and gms hasn't been caught yet. just play for fun
Bro why do u keep repeating your progression
I think the game is kind of uninteresting at the moment they add new things like 6th job but are they really worth the grind? I hit it both on my fp wizzard and khali but feel like it was not worth it and didnt add much. The game does not respect your time spend and always forces you to come back with demanding daily tasks and if you miss one you are pretty much forced to open yr wallet again to be even able to get the reward that really counts or else all yr effort would have been for nothing. This is just behaviour I do not like in mmo's, its supposed to be a game u dive into to immerse yourself into another world not some kind of money and time hungry mess. And most of the events are almost an exact copy paste of eachother get 3 different kind of currencies and spend em thats about it ever time the past years. Honestly if they got rid of all the time and limited related stuff on items this game would already be much better and more enjoyable to play.
Anyway this game lost alot of its exciting aspects and gets more dull every big update. Not saying you shouldent play it, i've just grown out of it.
Give me back the KPQ or LPQ days. Where only a few were maxed out level ( I think his or her name was Tiger). Where you were actually grinding levels from level 50 onwards. Levels dont make any sense nowadays. The powerscaling is non existing and it just feels bland..
raar maar waar
Please remove zero burst step cd
This game is pathetic now, i really miss the old maple days... family buffs...events...party quest...ludi pq...now its mostly a solo MMO. Pre BB patch should be the last.
This comment gave me aids
for me this Game is death since Big Bang Patch
Give us pre big bang MS
Current state = bad
This game is utter trash now. I don't know why anyone would choose to play this casino slot machine kind of game over any other MMO on the market. All this game revolves around is making as many bossing alts as you can and funnel all the resources to your main, pray to RNG god and tap your gear, literally a slot machine game. This game is also not even a real MMO anymore, almost purely single player until you reach end game for bossing party, which will take a long time to reach on its own, most new players would burn out before reaching that point anyway. Way too much FOMO content, which is absurd for an online game. The developers doesn't treat the players like customer, they beat the players like a pinata until the last candy falls out. I've never seen any developer treat their players like such.
Unless starforce has been completely destroyed as an enhancement system, I can't ever put time into this game.
I know the Starforce seems daunting and chances dont look good because it isn't. 30% chance success rate past 15 stars .. Chances don't look good to get to 20+ stars. But trust me when I say this, when it starts going and streaking, oh man that is a good feeling.
I want to want to play MapleStory (That is not a double take typo), but every time I think about playing the game, I run into the issue where I have to play some class I don't want to play to make my main stronger. I don't like the legion system and link skills at all, and I wish they were gone or changed. Because it is really noticeable when I get up in the 210+ level range and not having a lot of those classes leveled up, and not having those link skills. 🥲
I mean they hand out bonk pots like crazy and halved the amount of exp from 200 to 260 it's kinda easy to lvl up to 6th now.
With recent events they quite literally level up your characters for you so you can continue playing your main. It's a matter of being consistent I suppose.