Bass Cabinet Comparison | Bass Tone Tuesday
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- Опубликовано: 30 авг 2020
- Comparing different types of Bass Cabinets (cab simulations) #BassToneTuesday
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It pains me to say (literally, pain in my back) that I love the 8x10 the best
Glad I'm not the only one. But having had an SVT, I'm not going back...
@@edtaylor7816 I’m currently experimenting with two 2x10s and may add another two. The options and portability is nice.
@@BukkaLevy I was thinking that or a 1x15 & 2-10. 2x10 is still heavy at, I think 40+ lbs...
ppl, please, dont make the weight an argument, just get a cheap dolly and youre fine! ;)
@@THX-vp9fzand a genie to help hoy it into the backseat...
I have to go with the 4x10 plus 1x 15 just because it looks cool. But the 8x10 is so smooth. Nice clean playing!
Great job & thanks for playing thru all the cabinets! Most channels just show you a setup & don't even play lol.👍👍
Thanks for watching! Glad to hear you liked the vid!
nice vid ... and indeed I like the image you give that different speaker sizes and combinations color the bass tone and in fact function as an EQ @ the very end of the chain.
keep it comin'
Thank you very much!
I loved the 1x15 thump and the 8x10 fridge, those are my faves. The 4x10 + 15 looks so rad.
Great video. Would be very interesting to hear also different brands or even the complete two notes bass package with all the cabs available
Cool vid, man. My favourite cab from the selection here was the powerhouse 4x10/1x15. It was also really good to hear the subway's here, which all sound in a similar tonal family - which is cool.
I've just bought myself a WD800, after trying one nearly 2 years ago and waiting to find a good deal. My original plan was to get the Subway 1x12 and 1x15, as that's how I've demo'd it a few times. However, I have an Eich 112xs at home and plugged the Mesa into that... sounds absolutely beautiful and very... natural?. Only thing I don't like about the Eich is it's rear-ported. I'm still going to get a Subway cab to compare.
Eich makes great stuff! I’m sure you’ll love the WD-800 + Subway cab. The WD rules 🔥
Hey from Dublin. Excellent Video. I have the Mesa 115 and 210. Play them thru my Mesa Subway 800. Fantastic set up. Thanks so much for sharing 🎸🙏👍
You’ve got a killer rig! Congratulations! I’ve been considering getting the 210 at some point :)
@Sage Perception Hi. Below
Thanks! Loved this video.
Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching, Nate!
Loved the Mesa 2x12!
The Orange OBC115 is another great sounding 15“ cab. 115 is the best standalone option imo for a variety of genres as it has enough bottom end on its own while also delivering nice mids and isn’t too bulky
Excellent content. Thank you. I love GK amps and now the mesa 1x15/4x10
I liked the 4x10+1x15 combo the best, it was crispy and full and had a stepped back but full feel. The 1x15 was my 2nd favorite.
My favorite personal rig is a HartkeHD508, and or my SSB 1x10 enclosure packing a 8ohm Eminence B102 pushed by a HartkeTx300 or carvinBx250 microbass amp.
I run something similar
Great video as always Ivan , what's peoples thoughts on ampeg cabs ?
Was quite surprised how well balanced the 15" cab was. The 212 sounded a bit more loose or less definition than the 115 or 210 cabs. I have the Powerhouse 212 and its something i've noticed with it compared to my Berg HT322 which has a 12" & 2x10's . Think for me i'd probably go with 115 & 210 cabs together would be my preferred mix. The 15 definitely surprised me and the mids were nice and not bottom and top end like other 115 cabs i've tried over the years. Great demo vid. Thoroughly enjoyed it.
Yeah, I’ve thought about adding a 210 to pair up with my 115 at some point! Thanks for watching! 🙏🏽
I love a good 1x15 cab, but after starting to play electric bass and upright bass doubling gigs, I found the best speaker size for me was 1x12 cabinets. I'm currently using 2 Peavey Headliner 1x12 cabs for louder live shows, and have a Euphonic Audio M-Line Wizzy 1x12 for lower volume shows. I hate to be contrarian, but I didn't like the sound of the 8x10 (or most 8x10's I've played through) and I certainly dislike having to haul 8x10's around even more! 😄
I hear you on moving around the 8x10 😂😂😂 I’d never buy that other than to have it in my studio.
Euphonic audio makes awesome stuff!!
Very informative video. I have a Hartke HD50 with a 10" speaker and a Gallien Krueger Backline 115 with a 15" speaker and they sound different from one another. I have most of my basses wired in stereo and run the neck pickup through the 15" and the bridge pickup through the 10". I use a Lehle Little Dual unit which corrects the grounding problem when using two amps from 2 separate pickups and it allows out-of-phase use also. I plan on buying an 18" speaker and trying it out.
Cool! So you’re doing sort like the billy sheehan setup?
@@IvanBassist Yes, but instead of two output jacks, I have one stereo jack and use a stereo cable ran to the Little Dual box. You can set the tone for each pickup and amp separately and even use different effects on each at the same time. It does require the use of 2 amps, the Little Dual, stereo cord and the modification to the bass wiring.
Nice review- good work.
Thanks!
Sounds great. Thanks for the side by side comparisons, not too many opportunities to "test drive" Mesa. I have the Subway 212 and have been considering the 115 as well, as a stand alone for smaller gigs and to pair with the 212 for larger. How to they compare?
I own the 115 and really like it. I’ve never tried the 212 in person, but the cab sim definitely sounds good!
As far as I know, all subway cabs have been designed to pair well with each other
I’m adding the 2x12 cab to my 1x15. Caution, The ohms are mismatched (a 8 ohm and 4 ohm so need amp that can do 2 ohm which the WD800 can)
You saved my money, man! I am a guitarist and I will never now what cab should I buy before I watched your video! Thank you very much and success!
Glad to hear the video was helpful, Ricardo!
@@IvanBassist glad to find your video! Man, what of these do you recommend for strong, loud and noise distortion sounds?
@@possessedbyrock If you can find and afford one, the traditonal PH 8x10 sounds great. If can't find one, the subway line in generall sounds pretty good. Darkglass makes also great cabinets that sound pretty cool with distortion
Informative video! I've enjoyed your videos for the last 3 years. I have 1x15 and a 1x12 on top. After watching I'm considering selling my 1x12 and going with the 2x10 and 1x15. Did you ever have a chance to try the 2x10/1x15 set up? Trying to figure what would sound the best. Best regards.
Thanks for watching the channel :) Unfortunately, I didn’t get to try that. I rarely get to use cabs on stage these days, though
¡Un vídeo genial! La comparativa de tocar con púa y dedo está genial. Hay cabs que no me gustan con púa pero sí con dedo y al revés, así que genial por enseñarlo.
El mejor cab que he tenido fue sin duda un Mesa PH 210. Compacto y con un sonido brutal. Desgraciadamente, como siempre me sacan por DI, decidí venderlo por algo más ligero. Antes de la Mesa tuve un GK MBE212 que estaba muy bien y cumplía con creces. Ahora uso un Ashdown RM210 con el que estoy muy contento. Al parecer, soy muy de conos de 10"
Uff, si! El PH210 suena brutal! Que DI estas usando? :)
@@IvanBassist ahora mismo salgo desde el previo Ashdown OriginAL.
@@javiMrdePabs genial! 🤘🏽
Do you have a comparison of GK cabs?
Hi. Could You help me? Can I use a valeton 20b 30w in a 8x10 cab and sound right?, Have You ever test?, I don't have enough money for a Best bass head. Thx
That 4×10"+15" is a brilliant souding cab, that's all i would need for everything... i use a mix of a 2x12"+ single 15" cabs (Ashdown) ,i mic both cabs and mix them and it gives me the tone i want live & recording, been a while now right enough, used with my class A Warwick WA300 or WA600 heads I'm suprised how good they sound together... wish i could afford MESA cabs but very expensive here in the UK... very nice cabs, especially that 4x10"+15"....
Hi - One question. When you mentioned these are Two Notes Cabs, are you sure these are IRs? Because as far as I know, they make cab sims that are are meant to be run on their devices like the Torpedo CAB M, and these sims are not true IRs.
They have a free plugin called wall of sound where you can load their cab sims. It works pretty much like their pedals. You can change microphone types, microphone distance, etc.
that’s what i used here
To my ear, I loved the 2x12 and 1x15 (surprisingly)!
Great sounding cabs, right? :) Thanks for watching!
Started off thinking I'd lean to 12, but quickly changed to the 2x10. 15 didn't do it for me. 15+4x10 too big to manage. Maybe 1x15 & 2x10... Great review as always Ivan. You rock (literally and figuratively).
Thanks, Ed 🙌🏽
Thanks for the vid! I prefer the 212 the most.
Thanks for watching! :)
I have the WD 800 with the subway 210 and 115. For this demo how did you set the eq? Was it flat?
Awesome rig!! It was actually my Noble DI set flat
Do you think in a recording situation that a Mesa Subway 1x15 would sound much different than a Subway 2x15(but just close mic'd on one of the speakers) , Or would the main purpose of the 2x15 be sheer volume and projection in a live setting? Im going to be buying one or the other for part of my recording rig, and when I try the two notes emulations I love the 2x15 (with just one mic) , but Im skeptical how different they would actually sound in real life if you were just micing one speaker. Any ideas what you think the sound difference would be? There are also other reasons Im considering the 2x15 , but for starters Im just trying to figure out what the character of sound would be between the two cabs(again, when just micing one of the speakers lol) ...
Hi James! My best guess would be that the 2x15 might sound a bit different because the mic could pick up some of the sound of the top/bottom speaker. I doubt it’d be a HUGE difference, though
I am shopping for cabs at the moment. For blues, old school r'n'b and rock, would you use the 115 or the 212? I occasionally play through the 212 at a local jam and really like it. I own a Hartke HD112 and an Avatar 112 and cannot decide which direction to go. Too many options.
I’d say the 15 would work great.
Another option would be to get two separate 1x12s. That might be helpful when carrying space is limited.
2x12 for me I think, especially with fingers.
Great stuff!
Man, I just purchased a Mesa WD800 mostly due to one of your videos. Now I’m thinking about getting the Mesa 1x15. Do you think that Mesa 1x15 would be enough with the WD800 to play outdoor gigs like marinas and small outdoor venues or would you recommend something else? Thank you! :)
Glad to hear that, Chris! Enjoy the amp! I own a 1x15 and it’s pretty loud when combined with the WD, but a lot depends on the type of music that you’re playing. I haven’t had any volume issues for the stage, but i always have PA support.
@@IvanBassist Perfect! I have other amp options but I really want to take off with Mesa now. I still can’t believe how light the WD800 is. It just doesn’t sound like it. Again, thank you!
Happy to help! Let me know what you end up with :)
I played and love my ampeg 810 for years but I've been looking at the mesa powerhouse 1000 4x10/1×15 for last few years and this confirmed my love for it, I'm keeping my eyes peeled on the used market for one as I believe they are discontinued now?
They do sound awesome, but the powerhouse series has been discontinued.
@@IvanBassist I thought as much. Iv been keeping my eye on the used market for one to come up for sale so fingers Crossed
I had an SVT Classic and the 810. I plugged the Powerhouse 1000 that I have in and if you set the SVT on top of the 1000 it is the exact same height as the 810. The tone you get from the 810, 1000 and SVT is unlike anything I have ever heard. It was the best bass tone I have ever had. Try it out!
@@jthunderbass1 i bet that sounded massive!
The mesa 115 is just amazing~ I want to run 3 of them with the 800+ for a killer stack.
Amazing cabinet!
Im a 10's bass player. But I say the 12's really sound good.What do you think about GK Cabs? Ive been playing bass since 1980. And Ive used alott of big brands over the years. Fender,Mesa Boogie,Randall,Peavy,Cerwin Vegaand now for the last 6 years Mark Bass.
But GK in the last 2 years have really caught my attention. Can you do a video on the GK Fusion and the GK Legacy?
Actually, I switched from GK to Mesa 😄 I doubt I'll play a GK amp in the near future, but I'll see what I can do
I liked the 2x10 & the 15, I can almost imagine them together.
They sound great, right?
I use to play thru a 115 Mesa Boogie cab in the 90’s. But switched to a 210 cab.
All the cabs you played thru sounded closely the same. I’d like to see a video with different cabinet makers.
GK, Peavey,Mesa, ect.
This guy here did a pretty good job: ruclips.net/video/bjVmpfykIOs/видео.html
if all you need the cab for is for small shows or practice and you want the low end of a 15, do you need a 2x15? or can you get away with a 1x15????
A 1x15 should definitely be enough for practicing.
For live shows, it depends whether or not you have PA support and the style of music. If you have a PA, then it is definitely more than enough.
If you dont, it should still work at cafés/small bars/lounges
you have to think about the weight to move each time, especially if there are floors to climb
a 15" is enough for small rooms and is very good for JB vintage sound bass
Great Comparison. I really prefer the 8x10 Stack.
That seems to be the popular choice, so far! 😁
I have the 8x10 SVT and it is great but I broke my back at work and now can’t move it. The head is actually worse than the cabinet as the cabinet is pretty much balanced.
That 410 w/115 all enclosure can do some damage. I like that one.
Oh yeah!
I have 2 of them with an Ampeg SVT-4 Pro.
Nice!
Im confused. So you did the 1x15 twice. Were they both your 1x15 or both the plugin? Or was the first one the plugin and the second yours? lol
All the “cabs” shown here are from the wall of sound plugin by two notes.
A Subway 1x15 (i own that very same cab)
Subway 2x12
Subway 2x10
Powerhouse 1000 (4x10 + 1x15)
Traditional powerhouse (8x10)
@@IvanBassist Right, gotcha. Would have been cool if you threw your 1x15 in too tho ha. Thanks though, good job! I love how Two Notes has a bunch of official cabs!
I liked the 2x12 and the 4x10 with 15. The 4x10+15 prob slightly edge it. I really liked the sound tbh.
I use a Mesa M9 carbine with a SWR Marcus Miller 4x 10' sealed cab and Eden single 15' and they both sound grate on their own and even really awesome when I when I use them together, but for your test I thought the 8 ×10's sound the best flowed by the 2x 10' s and then single 15' .
I bet that rig sounds massive!
@@IvanBassist Yes it really does
Completely agree with you. I was even shocked that even 21" speaker cab has some mid and highs and a lot of lows. But it is too expensive and too big for me.
Which cab has a 21” speaker? 😱
accugroove wappo grande
look at the YT movie - Testor - Down bellow
Multiple 8 inch or 10 inch. More inches means usually mud in lower tones.
Hey...awesome!
Glad you like it!
Yeah! 8x10 is real killer fat tone!
It sounds massive, right?
@@IvanBassist yes sir! Huge & powerfull!
my faves were the 2x12 and 2x10
Surprised by the 115, breaks my stereotypes lol. The 210 sounds crisp, but lacking the low end extension of the 115 (and obviously the 810 and PH).
I know, right? That 15” is killer!
I like the 15&4x10’s
Great cabs!
Really shocked with the sound of the 1x15. Sounded really balanced especially when I thought it would of been very muddy too.
But I personally think the 8x10 sounded the best to my ears, had great compression and fit right into the mix every time.
The 8x10 is such a classic sound, but yeah the 115 is also great!
You thump the words right out of my mouth
😂😂😂✌🏽
IvanBassist thanks for the reply man! I might also be bias because I own that Mesa 8x10 my self 😅 so I’m just used to hearing It
I’m a bit jealous about that 😂 although i wouldn’t like carrying that cab around
2x15 love!!! Más definicion!!
Ivan. I think you got wrong some of the models. It’s an 2x15 and a 2x12, not a 2x12 and 2x10 respectively
Hey! Thanks for watching :) With all due respect, that’s not really possible because both the Subway 212 and 215 have vertical speaker setups. The 210 is the one that has diagonal speakers :) www.mesaboogie.com/cabinets--simulators/bass-cabinets/subway-series/index.html
i love 1x15 'cause 1. they look badass 2. they produce earth shaterring bass (especially with p pickups)
Indeed!
@@IvanBassist btw we share the same name. is there a place for another ivan the bassist?
🎉
The 8x10 was the clear winner IMO.
The 15 or the 4 10….good info
Thanks for watching, Henry!
your playing made them all sound good. 810 the best.
Thanks!
I want to hear the 2x15
I must say, I actually don’t like the 810 that much in this video at least. Really not enough mids at all for how I prefer to play at least
The 8x10 sounds the warmest and fullest.
🤘🔥🔥🔥
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All my cabinets are Mesa Boogie. I’ve got the super rare 4X12, 1X15, and the 4X10…. I wish I had the powerhouse 1000 with the 4X12 and 1X15 combination…. It just sounds better. The sound is well rounded. All my amps are Mesa Boogie also. Mesa Boogie M9, Mesa Boogie 400, and the powerful Mesa Boogie 400+ . I love the metal grill of the Mesa Boogie cabinets because of my cat. No tears
Mesa cabs look and awesome indeed!
I’ve never like 10’s for bass but that 4X10 with 1X15 was nice! My favorite was the 2X12. It sounded like 1X15 with a tad more bite and volume.
Mesa makes some nice sounding cabs!
10 or even 12 alone is weak cab. It can be used only at home. But 410 sounds good, also 1x15" sound great. I have never tried 2x12 but it might be interesting.
Power house 4x10 - 1x15 & Subway 1x15 my Favs,
3:30 4:07 4:43
12" all the way.
12”s are great! Thanks for watching!
I like 212 and 810
Great cabs!
Really like the sound of the 8x10 sim! That said, I own the 1x15 and you can easily get that tone by cutting out some 800Hz and boosting the bass slightly. All of these sound great though, have their own character.
Both great cabs! Which amp do you have? :)
@@IvanBassist I had the WD800 but I switched to the D800+ .
@@dwaynedelario both great amps!
4x10+1x15 powerhouse!!!
15" speaker win
I really like that one, too!
I really like this video, but I feel a little tricked because the title said cabinets and you are testing cab sims.
I understand your point of view. I thought it be fair to name it like that, because they are the official Mesa cabinet simulations 😊
@@IvanBassist I still watched the whole thing lol
Commercial than promo then plug-ins? What a bummer
Time to save for an amp 🤑
Absolutely!
"The 1x15 for me"......
1x15
Love that cab!
I choose 810.
Massive, right?
@@IvanBassist I need low mid, but huge gain. 15 inch is close to bass drum, for me.
212 all day
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Besides that thank you for the video 👍
Sorry to hear that! What has been your experience?
Thanks for watching!
2:27 minutes of bullshit.
This was lame...
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