10", 12", 15" Bass Speaker Sound Comparison - Sound Demo (no talking)
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- Size DOES matter! We compared the sound of 10", 12" and 15" bass speakers (cabinets used: Markbass Traveler) with various playing styles and grooves. Soundfiles & video: Thomas Meinlschmidt
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very useful comparison!
Fingers
2x10 0:21
1x12 0:44
1x15 1:08
2x10+1x15 1:31
Slap
2x10 1:55
1x12 2:17
1x15 2:39
1x10+1x15 3:01
Pick
2x10 3:23
1x12 3:39
1x15 3:56
1x10+1x15 4:13
My favourite is the 15" in any style.
2x10 seem to "project" a little more than the two others.
15" bass sounds deeper (as expected)
I thought 12" would be a good compromise, but I tend to prefer 2x10 low end
Actually the good compromise may be surprisingly the 2x10 + 15"
thanks anyway for the comparison. And this Little Mark Vintage, rhhhhaaaa Lovely!
I found the 2x10" sounded best, and 12" and 15" awful.
Also, the 2x10"+15" was disappointing.
I think I might prefer increasing the impedance on the 15" cabinet to reduce the amount of power it's getting, thus getting more 10" sound proportionned in the mix. (or maybe the 15" sounds bad at low power?). 4x10" is probably the go.
2x10 best low end and projection!
I actually liked them all, but I feel like 2x10 is gonna cut through the band much easier
I'm with ya however I feel like it's gonna depend on venue size, my old bass player ran 2 ampeg cabs and had to play around with the cab direction each show to cater to everyone who wasn't hearing the PA system, eventually we laid them on the sides to wash the sound and it sounded killer. However he was competing against 2 5150 heads and 2 guitars in C# standard so every show was a hassle to get that sound right. The 10s will react better no doubt but the 15/12 give that ambience tone 10s just won't produce. I've heard many guitar cabs completely overpower bass pumping through 10s. However if you're going into the studio I would prefer 10s all day
I used to run 4 x 10 and 2 x 15 (both from Crate)....fell in love with the two together plus it gave me versatility .....but I drove an 84 Cadilac back then.....4 x 10 won out for indoors, but the 2 x 15s were essential for outdoor shows......15s can just sound like mud indoors if you don't EQ right....never tried 12's
Such a great useful demo and great that there was a rock style comparison. Think the 15 sounds the most organic
These sound samples are using Mark bass cabinets. You’d get an entirely different range of tone if they were BareFaced cabinets…just saying.
Thanks for another good demo and killer playing. To my surprise, I preferred the 1x12" in all three clips. I liked its clear and open sound.
@mikaso "I think I say in general the same as you I expected more bottom from the ones with the 15 inches, but I didn't hear it even with my Audio-Technica pro headphones, but most likely the reason is the limited bandwidth that RUclips use or allows
I prefer 12 too
Great video! The 1x12 is actually a Traveler 121H (with H for Horn rather than P for Piezo tweeter).
I found the 2x10 sounded best to my ears, followed by the 1x15 (which surprised me) followed by the 1x12. I generally really like MarkBass 1x12s, but have experience with the NY121 (which has a Piezo tweeter rather than a horn).
I have my eye on a used Traveler 102P right now...
Such a perfect demo. Well done, thank you
The 2x10 has very clean highs for sure, and even though the 15” is very well balanced, I think you can pull it off with the 2x10 by just increasing the low a little bit more.
i use a 2x10 and a 1x15 with a little mark 800 head sound is incrediable, darkglass compressor and darkglass bx3
Man, I really like tonal aspects of each of them. I know that running a 2X10 with a 1X15 is relatively common, but what about all 3 in a stack?! 🤷♂️
Well now i"m sold on the 2x10!
0:22 2x10
0:45 1x12
1:09 1x15
I have the 210 and 115. I've always been curious about the 112. Thank you for the demo 😊😊
If you were to ask me about 10 years ago what size speaker I prefer, I would've told you a 210+118 combo. These days I prefer tighter sounding bass amps as the reality is that once you go below 50Hz in the F3, you start interfering with the kick drum. You want to reinforce the kick drum and not disrupt it with flubby low E and B string fundamental tones.
Agreed, though I think in some genres/styles the bass needs to go lower than the kick, for example old school reggae/funk, straight ahead jazz etc. Hard to find drummers and soundguys who play and mix a lighter and tighter kick drum as they did back in the days
@@monz7951 yeah, dude... I've been at a festival where outside the tent it felt like there was a minimalist braindead electro rave going on, and when I got inside I realized that it was the kick drum over-powering everything (but sounded good inside. thankfully I had ear protection so I didn't have to suffer that ignorant ravage..)
The 12's are usually my favorite, but I liked the 10's here.
Those 15/210 combo is perfect imo
Yo, this is exactly the kind of comparison videos I'm after when I'm trying to decide between gear! You got a new subscriber today!
Any chance I could ask for a comparison between the 102hf vs 104hf vs 151hr (since they don't make the 151hf anymore)? I've already got 2x 102hf's and would love to hear the difference between those cabs for building a full stack rig!
This is a GREAT video, VERY well done - thank you!!
I feel that the 1x12 wasn't't as loud as the 2x10, because it had less cone area. I'd really like to hear the 2x12 against the 1x15.
Nice demo, there's isn't enough people doing bass speaker videos.
thanks , a really useful video was toying with a 2x10 and 1x15 combination. has convinced me it's the way to go for me
Great thank you for your videos and this comparaison.
It confirms my choice, years ago, to buy 2x10" speakers.
May be should you compare with 2x12" one.
The 15 sounds the best and it doesn't even have a tweeter; the 12 sounds (to me) like 12's always sound (even with the (tweeter in it) - Boxy! If the 15 had a Tweeter in it, that's ALL you would need. ... IMHO 😁👊🏾
Look closer at 1:13 Traveler 115p does indeed have tweeter and it even says in video. Same as Traveler 151P
@ 1:30
I agree with Bob that rhe 2" x 10" was more pronounced than the other two. But after hours and days of reading on the subject matter it appears our ears hear the mid-range better than the lawn High ranges.
Even on my LG Cricket phone I can tell the richness of the 15-inch speaker. But I think the volume needs to be pushed a little more to keep up with the 10-inch speakee. Despite the Tweeter that might be in the 15-inch cabinet the highest just don't come out like the 10-inch cabinet or frankly even the 12-inch one; I think the poster of this video for doing that little slap at the end the show you how sharp the tenant for the high slap and how the 15-inch really doesn't bring it out. I will say though that only the 15-inch speaker really brings out the bottom string below the 5th fret.
I'm in my fifties so I'm old school so I'm just going to be biased toward the 15-inch but the 10-inch speakers are really opening my eyes.
My suggestion for those short of cash is just go with the 12-inch cuz I think that was a good compromise. If money is no hindrance, then I would get probably 2-10s, a 12, and a 15, all on separate heads of course.
Thank you for the review. My favorite is the 2x10. I m playing a 4x10 (and an old 1x12) with a little mark tube 800 and a Stingray Special. The ultimate weapon in a band!!
Great demo! 👌👏😎
The Traveler 151P sounds great by it self as all the others. The 12' i dig for double bass. The 10' are fast but have depth too. Wouldn't mind to have a compairison between 2x10 + 4x10 and 2x10 + 1x15. Heard that cabinets with the same speakers sound better...
Thank you so much for posting this. I have an OG Peavey Transamp and while it's okay it's HEAVY and while typically decently loud has no true line outs or DIs. Looking to trade it in while it still works and go for something more modern like these with all the bells and whistles. I also appreciate that, with the first three examples it seemed pretty cut and dry what was what... but once soeone uses a pick, or there's a speaker and tweeter, and other variations you realize how subtle you can get. This puts things in perspective - I appreciate the information.
It was a jazz bass with rounds or something, i think. Interesting, how does the 151P sound with p-bass + flats ?
I run a 2x10 and a 15 from Genzler, the bass array cabs with a Magellan 800. Its the perfect rig if your looking for clarity, punch and don't want your sound colored by an amp. If you haven't played one yet, I suggest you do, they are just amazing.
Thanks for the nice comparison !!!!
Is the tweeter fully open in each cabinet?
Regards!
Amazed how the 102p kicks ass compared to the others - though, obviously, it does have two horns, so I guess what do you expect?!
For playing with fingers or a pick, I would choose 2x10 + 1x15. Or any of them, if such a massive sound is not needed.
But I did not hear the advantages of 1x12. Maybe for some acoustic compositions, where you don't need to press hard with the bass.
Thank you friend!
12s are the purest sound definitely, 15s sounds like compress and then 2x10 like there were a preamp
have been test the 210 cab, and found its frequncy response is supper flat , so the bass tone is mainly deponds on the head use., and the mark bass head itself, emulated the frequncy response range what a bass guitar needs,or, a cab emulator inside the head
I always wanted to like 10's because of their isolated sound, but never like them in the mix. 12's on paper should be perfect, but never liked them period. I started with 15's and finally after 20 years returned to 15's they just have that old school sound, all I have now is 15's and p basses and it feel like home. Almost anytime I like a bass tone it is with 15's.
Ps and 15s 😂🤣😂 You like it fuckin DEEP.
Agreed. I’ve always used 15s as well, usually two of them. Sometimes the 10s sound good, but not AS good. And back in the day, 12s were only for guitars…
The 1x12 was brightest mid-heavy. I'd like to see the 1x12 and the 1x15.
Very good comparison ! We can really ear the difference between the 3 cabs. And it is properly captured.
I will be on the market for a replacement of my amp and look for markbass. I don't know, maybe the 102p ;-)
Thank you for sharing ;-)
@Mitchell Palmer Finally I get a good opportunity for the 121h ;-) It's pretty punchy and very clear. And with some tweaks on the eq you can get big lows if you want. It's still difficult to get an idea on record through mic on the internet. In real life it's a bit different.
Thing is, this is nice for playing solo at home. Question is how do they sound in a mix with other instruments.
You need to stack a couple on top of eachother if you're playing with a loud drummer and (2) guitarists
The only one which doesn't sound nasal is the 15".
Thank You!! I'm not the only one that's not tone deaf. 15's Rule! 😄👊🏾
Couldn’t agree more
Back in the day Les Claypool always used 15’s live only. That’s when he had the best tone. In lots of videos there is just a single sm57 mic on the cab.
It’s all in how you eq it, but the 15 is a great bet
What kind of Bass guitar are you playing? And do they have active pick ups? I've had a Mark Bass 210 cab and it sounds better when I play my Active bass versus my Passive bass.
15 was my favorite solo cab, 15 + 2-10 combo was the best though
What bass was used in this video?
interestingly enough, I find that althought the 1x15" + 2x10" has obviously more range, while retaining some punch,
it doesn't sound so good as I would have expected because *it seems like their mid frequencies overlap!*
so the result is something that's too middy to my ears' taste, comparably to the 1x12 :o (just a wider)
So I would
1) EQ out the mids if I ran this combo
2) maybe check out other brands to see if their individual speakers actually have *less range?!*
I would like to hear the deep bass notes on the 15’ speakers please sr ?
Beginner question: would combining the 2x10 and the 12 give more mid and high frequencies, and lose bass frequency?
I like the 210
Looking at replacing the Mark Bass 210 Cab with a GK 212 NEO Cab cleaner sound.
somehow I think they all sound better than my darkglass AO 900 with EBS 412 cab, maybe I'm more into classic tone nowadays😂
I made the mistake of buying a LP-6 Kali studio monitor, which has a 6 inch speaker to practice a 5 string bass through.
After realising this was a mistake I need to know which speaker size to go for when buying a physical cabinet.
Will a 12 inch speaker handle the notes on the B string and E string WITHOUT producing BOOMY notes and unwanted distortion, because that's what I'm getting right now with the 6 inch speaker.
I had the 1X12 version for years and it did everything I ever wanted it to do with an active six string bass.
@@Sonicstillpoint83 I made another discovery about a year ago that the boomy notes that were being produced was not because of the Kali LP-6, but because of some kind of settings on the BOSS GT-1B unit.
I reduced some of the settings that I had increased before and everything is normal now.
This should have been a comparison of 110 to 112 to 115, no tweetres, all ports the same - title misleads.
This is a great comaprison of the available commercial cab configurations Markbass sells, but not of a 10 v 12 v 15.
10s in every way. Has the most detail and punch needed to cut thru the mix on a live setting. I would pick the 12s for studio recording. 15s are too boomy with very little detail in the upper range
I had a 122 ninja cabinet I paired with a dark glass and I had to leave it in the Philippines
I already own the 1x12 Cab presented here .. and was thinking about pairing it with a 1x15. Sadly this wasn't presented here. What do you guys think, would it be a good match?
If I had the 1x12 I think it would sound more awesome with another 1x12
@@wuwliwonka I used to run the Traveler 121h combo amp + the 112 cabinet, stacked. Enjoyed it a lot, but felt i needed more ooomph at times : )
@@chrisboldtm I have the 151P and it sounds great, I reckon the 12" will enhance the mids and compliment fretless bass. How d'you like the horn? What style d'you play?
@@wuwliwonka Never had a 15' ... always wanted one. I think its about time for me to mix it up : ). I dont have a fretless but it's on my future buy's list, someday. I like the horn, especially because it has a separate 'master' volume on the side of the cab. I find it has a very slight background hiss (as it's a piezo), but it isnt audible at playing volume, only in stand-by. When played at stage volume, i generally turn it down because it gets glassy. I mostly play funk / soul, with a good dose of rock/blues on the side. Anything really, i like to experiment. : )
210 is good, 410 is great, 810 is awesome.
I prefer 10’s or 15’s when playing with guitars using 4x12’s
The 2x10 with clarity and lows
12 the best of 2 worlds
Perfect demo. Thank you
Personally I like the 12” but each has its place.
I feel like the 10” would be good for a power trio where the bass has to stand out a little more.
15” for something more mellow when deep and subtle is needed. Maybe older country music where bass is in the background and holding everything together
Stand alone the 12 is best of both worlds. Of course the 15 with the 10s sound good. You should have done the vintage piggy back too 15 with the 12.
I have a 2x10 MB combo amp, and I think the 1x15 cabinet would be a great extension to it!
The 2x10" is higher SPL. Everyone picks the louder sound...Not a proper comparison.
Can someone explain putting the 210 and 15 vertically next to each other vs stacking the 210 on top of the 15?
It fit in the camera angle better that way. Pretty sure that’s the only reason they were put on their side.
I probably shouldn’t judge this listening on my phone waiting for the store to open
@Ledger Sam
Thanks, I’ll check it out
I prefer 15"+ 2 x 10".
15s only for bass🍻
I have the impression that the volume is not matched, the 2x10 being louder and therefore not allowing a fair tone comparison
2021 of course
2x10 Sounded the punchiest in this demo.
10 strong mid, less roundness, 15 fuller but lack mid, 12 some between
Is a tweeter necessary? I have a Aguilar cab without a tweeter I was just wondering?
Yes, gotta have that snap
12 for me
harga nya yg 12inc berapa
The 12
2x10"! :o
210+115 for me
Twitter not nescessary!
A great idea for a test, but it proves nothing. There is nothing to choose between them, which is not, I think, a good thing unless you are declaring a 'family' sound. But then...why make a bunch of different models except to cater to personal driver bias. Personally, I didn't care for any of them, which I though odd because I have heard Mark Bass' sound good elsewhere, which leads me to believe it was the instrument/player contribution. Why are both the single twelve and single fifteen lower in apparent volume when they don't present a more difficult load? Unless the 2 X 10 is 4 ohms.
1x15:)))))
No 2x12? bummer.
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The 12 by itself sounds like crap.
Over priced. Just like their neighbor company GR.
I've heard & used cheaper cabs, that do just the same as these ones.
No 121 & 210 why??? You had all 3 there, you paired the 151 & 210.