7:10 Time to trade-in the wifey! The variable compression turbo is the coolest part of the new Rogue! I've heard of fake ones where they just leave the valves open a little longer or whatever, but who would have thought we'd have the technology to actually vary the compression quickly on demand, and that much torque out of only three cylinders is quite amazing, especially since it feels lag free.
Nissan still uses jatco cvt? Do they have more reliable cvts recent batches? 2020 was the worst year of nissan because of many faulty cvts reported. Please share your thoughts on jatcos cvt after 2020, have they improved the reliability?
Love the review, but my main concern with NIssans are their CVT transactions, the history of Nissan and failing CVT’s is what keeps me away from this company, I have a 2007 G35X Infiniti, and love the VQ engine with the 5 speed, and hearing that Nissan went with a Cvt and all the issues they have just keeps me away from this company.
😂😂🤣 She doesn't know her car stuff, but she's adorable and she drives a PHEV, so you should forgiver her 🤣 I prefer Kidd Valley to Burgerville, but, when in OR, it'll do. I bring a few quarters of Iced Tea along on trips myself. Okay, Tom . . . a question. If you can remember well enough, how does it compare to the Encore GX? You drove that down to Bend as well and I am really drawn to the smaller footprint of the GX. Oh, I love the Mt Bachelor area. I've done a lot of hiking up in the OR Cascades, including the Three Sisters .
Those sales figures the Rogue and competitors are kind of fascinating. I heard some sales figures on some mid-size trucks that were similarly surprising In what way? They all seem very high given the constant news of chip shortages and other supply chain constraints. Dealer lots are all still empty of new vehicles. Makes me wonder how much of the scarcity is manufactured by the manufacturers. They are seeing increased profits not having to provide incentives to buyers or free flooring to dealers. Not sure how the dealers are making on through all of this, but I would think 2 years into this, we'd see at least some of the manufacturers falling down if they truly weren't able to eek out some decent profits. Who knows, that's just my bitter, cynical mind at work.
The manufacturers have certainly learned something from all this but if you think they're trying to create scarcity, nope. All it would take is one of them to churn out product to grab market share. That's not happening. All of them are scrambling. But it's getting better. Give it a year, maybe 18 months.
@@DrivenCarReviews I think manufacturers are learning they can maintain profitibility amid lower sales volumes by getting consumers to pony up more cash for higher spec vehicles. If they wanted to crank out more vehicles, they could do so by concentrating on less equipped base models that have fewer chips. That is what I mean by creating scarcity. They sell nearly as many crossovers and trucks as before at the expense of not producing affordable vehicles (or discontuing them altogether...RIP Honda Fit). I fully agree that they are constrained by the supply of materials, but theyvhave some control over their output based on how they allocate their production resources. Us Americans generally are not ones who want to "do without," so we happily pay more for that fancier version as long as the banks are willing to spread that note out a few more years to keep that monthly payment manageable...if you consider the average new vehicle monthly of around $700 manageable. If and when the economy slows, which I think it will with the Fed's rate hikes continuing, we will see some fallout from all this unchecked consumer spending. Then, I think you'll see the market cool off.
You lost me at CVT. Not sure why Nissan decide d to keep the CVT when did a away with it on the Pathfinder, why not just use the same transmission on the rest of the fleet. These are the reasons why Nissan is failing and turning into the next Mitsubishi.
@jdm1039 yeah it does. Nissan CVT is pure trash. 3 cylinder turbo, 🤣 Total BS... People are so brainwashed with this tech crap , go buy one and good luck! I'll take a Toyota , Honda or Mazda over this everytime!
Setting up the question: which will fail first? The CVT or that cutting edge little engine? Nissan is the only manufacturer using this variable compression ratio technology.
I agree with your concerns and I hope Nissan didn’t screw up reliability or engine robustness. But Vtec was new too some time ago and now all manufacturers have it. As for the Nissan CVTs, it seems that the key for longevity is transmission oil drain and refills per manufacturer maintenance schedule (every 30k miles) with Nissan OEM fluid, don’t cut corners on that!
@@khronin show you know little about Nissan race history, Nissan VVL was more reliable and more powerful than Honda vtec, problem was only certain amount of the engine was manufactured. Nissan did variable valve timing before honda, which was called N- VTC , Nissan was the first Japanese to use variable timing control (VTC) in the 3.0 liter engine (VG30DE) in 1986, Honda brought a more advance variable timing control called vtec in 1989. Nissan enhance the VTC to neo VVL develop by Autech a subsidiary of Nissan under Japanese CEO before Ghosn took helm of Nissan as CEO. Which birth the SR16VE and the SR20VE engines. Unlike vtech , VVL engages the change of intake and exhaust cams independently for a flatter, more consistent power band. Up to date the SR16VE N1 NA engine is the world most powerful NA 1.6 liter engine, develop 190 HP.
@@khronin hey, you do not know me so, all you saying is total nonsense, and I have past through many cars to know all about Toyotas, Honda and Nissans, long before you, and I can clearly say that without bias owning a Honda Accord currently and my education background as engineer (mechanical, electronic and electrical), also let me have basic of understanding how this machines work. You clearly wrote " Honda is way more reliable and had the Vtec in racing form for years ", nobody force you to wrote that, but your comment is bias and based on your opinion without facts to, back up, because there are many B16 and SR16, around to gather data, and both engines have been reliable, so how is Honda vtech more reliable? You are butt hurt because someone correct you with your bias utterance, putting forth your opinion, and I know you have never driven the SR16VE N1 which are hand crafted engines, so you can say what ever you want, I have seen both engines at paly have you? I do not need a you tube channel, The post is about Nissan VC-T and the question pose was about Nissan new 1.5 VC-T engine or CVT, which one would fail first, which VC-T is variable compression ratio with turbo, which is total different from valve timing (VTC) which is controlling the open and closing of valves, not about Honda Vtech or how does it compare to other makers, also nobody ask about if Honda was more reliable. What ever you are claiming that you did not do, that exactly what you are doing indirectly, that Honda has been doing this for years, as If they are the only ones. However you argument turn out to be way off because VCT and VCR are not the same, you own a lot of performance cars, good for you, but actually go learn how they operate before commenting.
Love the location shots. I've been to Bend a few times, kayaked on Lake Bachelor, and loved it all. Your wife's input is very telling as most people don't know all the specifics of the cars they drive but simply judge them by their comfort levels and amenities. As for great tacos, we have the best Fish Taco truck here in Napa. THE BEST! $4 and they are better than anything in northern CA. The Rogue simply is the best passenger car Nissan makes right now but their entire line-up is improving constantly. Hope they keep it up. I am disappointed with the new Z (the styling just isn't there), and the fact that the brand still uses CVTs. Hondas are decent but just that: decent. Great review!
Very nice video. I love when you get the family involved. Your wife is priceless with her utter disdain for the whole “video thing”. The reason you got such poor mileage to Bend is that you were climbing to 4,000+’. From 0’ in Seattle. I think Nissan did an excellent job with this model but the somewhat poor mileage in a FWD auto is surprising. You lucked out with your concert. Ours was postponed (in Maupin) when the crew contracted Covid. No surprise seeing the superspreaders under the pianists feet in your video.
I always appreciate when Tom provides a mainstream vehicle review and wish he would provide a greater mix of them. I know professional car reviewers review vehicles provided by manufacturers but its hard to put a lot of stock in a top level, optioned up vehicle. I will go out on a limb and say that most people won't be spending over $40K for their Rogue. I also think there is a great lesson from Tom's wife not knowing much about cars and yet her one comment about good visibility knocked it out of the park. Car reviewers (probably by virtue of testing so many vehicles each year) tend to focus on things that mean less for most buyers. Visibility, gas millage, reliability (yes that is still a thing) means more than 0-60, autonomous driving features, quick shifting transmissions. Tom is one of the best in the business so I appreciate his videos. Thanks.
I love that you live and work in the PNW. We moved out here (greater Portland) in 2013 and just love it. So your videos “feel like home”. Thanks for taking us along on your vacation.
Love this video we’re trading in our 2019 maxima platinum for rogue platinum because we’ be approached the 65 mark and want more comfortable road trips. You and your lovely wife made a most informative and entertaining video. Our plan is a trip from NYC to Florida I know this car will be perfect. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾🙏🏾👋🏾
Really enjoyed your reviews! I don't exactly why, but your reviews give me the nostalgic feel of the 90's/00's Motor Week on PBS that I watch as a kid.
Great review, Tom. I like you combined your real life road trip, which I can especially relate as I just moved from another state to Seattle area this year. Your reviews were one of the reasons.
Pro Pilot assist yells at you after 10 seconds of hands off the steering wheel? That seems worse than most of the lower-end driver assist systems out there. My wife's Hyundai Palisade will let you keep your hands off the wheel indefinitely as long as it senses you are paying attention with your eyes. It also does an outstanding job keeping the vehicle centered in the lane and taking sharp curves without any driver input. I did a 2 hour drive in it, thru some twisting canyons in UT and I touched the wheel maybe 5 times total in 2 hours.
I also like the Hyundai/Kia system. It's not all about "seconds handsfree". PPA seems to be a little more confident when it's doing its job. In the Hyundai, I didn't have nearly the level of handsfree time as you. Most I got was a minute and that was on straightways.
Great review. The fact your wife could not tell a difference between this engine and a traditional powerplant speaks volumes. I also like the fact that as a turbo this car runs on regular fuel and not the more expensive premium or high octane fuel. Three cylinders got my attention with the GR Yaris and the upcoming GR Corolla. My only concern is longevity. I know I am in the minority since I tend to keep my cars for a few years but I guess only time will tell with how durable these engines are. As with any new tech, we know there are inherent teething issues but if Nissan offers the same warranty on this engine as they do their other power plants that can be reassuring. Again well done and that concert in the mountains was amazing. I will definitely have to check that out myself. 42 grand is a little steep for this car but this looks like a quality vehicle. That price looks like it is knocking on the door of what the new Toyota Crown will be going for and I have been very impressed with what I have seen with the Crown and by default, you get that Toyota reliability. Just stepping back and seeing the quality of vehicles we are getting is very impressive.
So far 5,600 on our 22’ Rogue. The new Cvt is very responsive, and has the most traditional automatic feel that I’ve experienced. Can’t beat 30-33 city/mixed 36-41 highway!
I own the 2017.5 Rogue and tested the 22 Rogue while getting an oil change. Its a LOT smoother than mine I have a 4 cylinder CVT at 170 HP, with 26 city/33 highway mpg, 175 Lb-Ft torque. The 2022 rogue has 201 HP, 225 Lb-Ft torque, 30 City, 37 hwy rated. Of all the vehicles i know, i cant even recall a 3 cyclinder to exist. Yet the 3 cylinders have great acceleration and performance from my test drive experience. Coming from a rogue it feels awesome, yet for those who use traditional engines it might be an acquired taste for you guys. Although I TRULY love this new rogue, i plan on running this rogue until it falls apart. I bought it brand new and enjoy every single mile that ONLY I HAVE PUT ON IT. (Less than 1% was by other drivers, such as valets letting a family member borrow it, etc) One day I'll put an end to the myth of Nissana making bad engines. (I hope 😬)
Good luck, I can't trust a Nissan Product anymore that has a cvt. 2013 Sentra nearly killed me on the highway after the cvt randomly died with under 100,000k. I would definitely take a Tucson, CX5, or Rav4 over these.
This is the review I was waiting for. My wife and I were looking seriously at this model - in SV guise - … but I was cross shopping nit with the Hyundai Santa Fe which is just a tad larger. Also, the Santa Fe has the hybrid and plug in variants which is more what I am looking at.
@@occckid123 Edmunds shows there are two available within 200 miles of me, and suggests paying $49,000 for SEL model. Also, I'm not sure Santa Fe is bigger. Rogue is rather spacious and feels mid-size instead of compact.
@@moozillamoo2109 lmfao insane! 2 available then you have 2 call the dealership and see what upcharge they charge for the vehicle also and thats if the 2 are really even available by the time you get there.
@@occckid123 yeah...up here in Canada it is at least a six month wait for an SV because SV models come out of Japan...S models come out of Mexico and are easier to get...but still a wait.
i enjoyed your review Tom! the new styling inside and out and the new engine is what won me over to get my '22 Rogue SV Premium which packs nice amenities, very pleasant to drive specially on long trips. Gets excellent gas mileage for being a midsize SUV. Def a win-win!
Tom, Please bring a six footer 12:15 along for all future cabin comfort tests 😁 The spacious proportions demonstrate yet another competitor has put RAV4's cramped interior to shame.
Glad you got to make a road trip video - your trip to Japan a few years back was some of your best work. I don't know how much / how often you can manage that or if even a side-channel would be worth your time. But you have an eye with your videos that is a clear step above the "this button does this" crowd of car reviewers. I'm not all that interested in the Nissan personally, but you got me to watch over 20 minutes of it here and that would be enough for me to recommend people to have a look at it if they are in the market.
CVT no thank you! 3 cylinder = high stress engine = no reliability, hell no. Get the CX5 Mazda, it’s bulletproof reliability and luxury all for less money
There's a bit of irony that the Rogue is sold in other countries as the X-Trail, which is presumably it's original name, and it comes as a 'E-Power' hybrid. So it's the US version Rogue that gets the less techy power train.
I am with you, Tom about PHEV and that is why I own a Kia Sorento PHEV. I have no interest in any cars/SUVs with pure gasoline engines, but love your reviews anyway about anything including this Rogue. I look forward to seeing your review of the Mitsubishi version and it's redesigned PHEV in particular. Unfortunately there is zero news about when it will show up in the N. American markets.
Tom, your wife had me laughing when you began asking her those technical questions. How could you! (I suspect some evil twin crept in😊) Anyway, great presentation as always!
Looks like a great family option that should be on everyone's shopping list. Well featured, nice ride and well priced. Regarding fuel economy calculations, modern ECUs know precisely how much fuel is being used as the fuel/air mixture on today's vehicles is a masterclass of precision, especially with today's emission requirements, fuel economy standards and especially so on a variable compression turbo engine like this. Filling up the tank until it clicks is nowhere near as accurate. The ECU is likely accurate to within a few milliliters of fuel per tank.
@@DrivenCarReviews For sure, I get it. However, the ECU should be the most accurate thing you can use if you want (despite what some naysayers online say). If you want, you can reset the fuel economy gauge when you get the vehicle, then make note of what it says at the end of your time with it. That should be a good reflection of its fuel consumption. Of course, that's only relative to how it was driven by you during your time with it. Things like temperature, altitude, quality of fuel, how you are driving it and the driving conditions as a whole all play into fuel economy, so they should really be taken as a guide, not gospel. The good thing I've seen from you is you tend to drive the vehicles like most normal people do (you don't hypermile it, but also don't floor it constantly). It always bothered me to see some reviewers drive a vehicle like they stole it, then berate it for poor fuel economy. :)
@@jackl5557 The ECU knows precisely how much fuel is being used. Also, you shouldn't fill your fuel tank up the top of the nozzle (where it would essentially spill out if you kept going) as it can damage the emissions systems in the fuel tank (filters, etc). Also, depending on the grade of where you are parked at the station, that may also affect how much fuel you can get into the tank.
I'm getting 30mpg by driving 70mph in Mazda CX-5 with 2.5 250hp 4-cyl turbo and 6AT...and I don't see any reason why someone would go for 3-cyl-turbo with CVT instead
Naturally aspirated 4 cylinder engines may use more gas and have less power, but they are extremely simple and reliable. They can last hundreds of thousands of miles with little repairs or maintenance. What Nissan Rogue should have just focused on is updating just the CVT to have a launch gear and make it a chain instead of a a flimsy steel belt. Make the CVT more durable like Toyota and Honda does... that's all I care about it simplicity and reliability.
Ughhhh, long term, I can’t see this 3 cylinder giving trouble free miles…head gaskets, timing belts, etc. I bet in 10 years, you’ll be hard pressed to find any 200k mile Rouges around…but Tom….as always great reviews thank you!
The sun, wind and water also generate electricity. Those methods are growing, while the others, especially coal, are dropping. That's the dirty little secret you failed to mention.
I've had my '22 Rogue for a few months, have noticed an irritating "whirr" noise from under the hood, occurs after about 35 mph, not really noticeable after 60 or so due to wind/road noise. It is more noticeable upon letting off the gas from around 50 mph. Very annoying with no radio on, bearable with music on. I was wondering if anyone else with a '22 has this same "whirr" coming from under their hood? My dealership said it is just inherent to this turbo with this CVT. I didn't hear it till I had about 1K miles on it.
I tried a 23 out recently and did notice a faint whirr anytime moving forward. No noise when stopped. Loved the car but deciding if the noise is a deal breaker.
@@tomdwyer4421 Tom, unless you always drive with no radio on, you really won't notice it. I've actually become accustomed to it and even with my radio/music on low volume, I can't say that I hear the whirr from the turbo. I like the Rogue for so many good reasons. I am, however, having a concern about my AC temps being strange, sometimes having to dial it all the way down to "LO" to feel cold air, then I can dial it up to my comfortable 70 or so. I'll talk to my dealer's service dept soon about that issue.
Hello Tom, I just came from the Nissan Dealership (Cochrane, AB Canada) test drove the Reouge 2023 Platinum.I loved it, signed the papers and just waiting for the approval. If it is all good we will picking it up Friday or Saturday! cannot wait! first trip will be from home (Airdrie, AB) to Vancouver then Kelowna and back to Airdrie! I still sceptical on the CVT and 3 cyl. but the ride on the test drive was so nice, smooth and the interior is so beautiful it can almost go against a Lexus! I hope it will be reliable for the next 5 years for us!?
The engine won't last with those turbos. The nissan cvt trans is terrible. At that price get a Toyota that will go 100,00 miles without major breakdowns. My 201@ Nissan rogue is going on third set of motor mounts at 165,000 miles. Out 2009 Toyota venza v6 has original motor mounts at 200,000 miles
As I really hope Nissan has improved these I just can't help to not trust it. I would have loved to see at least a improved warranty like Hyundai offers. After my 2013 cvt died with under 100,000k I don't trust the brand. Let's be honest those 3 cylinder turbos are not going to hold up either. I'll take a 2.5L 8speed auto Tucson over this for the value play or if your rich go for the Mazda CX5 or Toyota Rav4.
Caspian Blue? Expecting Black sea Indigo and Azov Lapis, also a two-tone version with yellow roof. The front end is ugly and asks for a quick re-design, the tablet instead of real instruments is too cheap for a car with luxury pretensions. An ok transport I guess.
Tom, Come on man! Not fair that my wife is out of town, and what do you do? Go to a burger joint and your wife talks about how great it is (how did you get her on camera for that long?)! Now I have burger addiction symptoms 🍔... Been awhile since I commented. Thanks partially to your advocacy of hybrids and pure electrics, I now am not really interested in exclusive ICE vehicles anymore (just happened to click on this one). I've always been into fuel economy, but you've help push me over the edge. I see exhaust pipes now and think "tons of CO2." Over the last year I sold the 1992 Honda Civic VX I'd had for 25 years. I couldn't afford a full blown electric - they're just too expensive - but I did go half-way by buying a 2012 Toyota Prius V. I love just about everything about it: 40-44 mpg, room and comfort, and the ergonomics. The only real complaint is the buzzy engine and transmission when under hard acceleration. Based on your reviews as well as others, I want to get a new or gently - used Ford Maverick hybrid for my wife on our 25th wedding anniversary in November 2023. I think even Evil Twin will approve of that. Keep up the consistent good work! No one on RUclips makes better use of viewer time than you do.
Tom, your vacation vlog/ reviews are top notch (foggy lens aside), and I always appreciate input from your family! Have a great time vacationing!
I really enjoyed this kind of an evaluation, mixing work and vacation and it works!! Consider it more often Tom.
Throw in a hybrid or a PHEV with the 1.5 T engine and I believe you will have a winner... I really like the new Rogue.
9:29 here in Colombia we o Ku get the hybrid version of this generation. Called the X-Trail e-power.
I think you are the best car reviewer on the internet. Great job.
Wonderful video format. Great Rogue with the new engine.
I remember watching a vlog when you went with a Volvo V90 CC also to a piano concert, in the desert somewhere...
Engine sounded really good during merging.
Great review and vacation shots!
7:10 Time to trade-in the wifey! The variable compression turbo is the coolest part of the new Rogue! I've heard of fake ones where they just leave the valves open a little longer or whatever, but who would have thought we'd have the technology to actually vary the compression quickly on demand, and that much torque out of only three cylinders is quite amazing, especially since it feels lag free.
Mariko is irreplaceable, even if she's not impressed with stuff like that.
I was in Oregon for the first time in May. It was strange when I went to get gas at Costco and noticed all of the attendants pumping gas!
Great video, as always
Nissan still uses jatco cvt? Do they have more reliable cvts recent batches? 2020 was the worst year of nissan because of many faulty cvts reported. Please share your thoughts on jatcos cvt after 2020, have they improved the reliability?
Love the review, but my main concern with NIssans are their CVT transactions, the history of Nissan and failing CVT’s is what keeps me away from this company, I have a 2007 G35X Infiniti, and love the VQ engine with the 5 speed, and hearing that Nissan went with a Cvt and all the issues they have just keeps me away from this company.
This has Nissans new, dual pump CVT with 30% less friction and a much wider gear ratio.
@@joenissan interesting, but if it's still made by the same manufacturer it's still a no go for me, that CVT manufacturer that they use is horrible
14:07 check out that 2002!!
😂😂🤣 She doesn't know her car stuff, but she's adorable and she drives a PHEV, so you should forgiver her 🤣
I prefer Kidd Valley to Burgerville, but, when in OR, it'll do. I bring a few quarters of Iced Tea along on trips myself.
Okay, Tom . . . a question. If you can remember well enough, how does it compare to the Encore GX? You drove that down to Bend as well and I am really drawn to the smaller footprint of the GX.
Oh, I love the Mt Bachelor area. I've done a lot of hiking up in the OR Cascades, including the Three Sisters
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Much rather road trip this than the Encore. More room, better ride, better tech.
Those sales figures the Rogue and competitors are kind of fascinating. I heard some sales figures on some mid-size trucks that were similarly surprising In what way? They all seem very high given the constant news of chip shortages and other supply chain constraints. Dealer lots are all still empty of new vehicles. Makes me wonder how much of the scarcity is manufactured by the manufacturers. They are seeing increased profits not having to provide incentives to buyers or free flooring to dealers. Not sure how the dealers are making on through all of this, but I would think 2 years into this, we'd see at least some of the manufacturers falling down if they truly weren't able to eek out some decent profits. Who knows, that's just my bitter, cynical mind at work.
The manufacturers have certainly learned something from all this but if you think they're trying to create scarcity, nope. All it would take is one of them to churn out product to grab market share. That's not happening. All of them are scrambling. But it's getting better. Give it a year, maybe 18 months.
@@DrivenCarReviews I think manufacturers are learning they can maintain profitibility amid lower sales volumes by getting consumers to pony up more cash for higher spec vehicles. If they wanted to crank out more vehicles, they could do so by concentrating on less equipped base models that have fewer chips. That is what I mean by creating scarcity. They sell nearly as many crossovers and trucks as before at the expense of not producing affordable vehicles (or discontuing them altogether...RIP Honda Fit). I fully agree that they are constrained by the supply of materials, but theyvhave some control over their output based on how they allocate their production resources.
Us Americans generally are not ones who want to "do without," so we happily pay more for that fancier version as long as the banks are willing to spread that note out a few more years to keep that monthly payment manageable...if you consider the average new vehicle monthly of around $700 manageable. If and when the economy slows, which I think it will with the Fed's rate hikes continuing, we will see some fallout from all this unchecked consumer spending. Then, I think you'll see the market cool off.
You lost me at CVT. Not sure why Nissan decide d to keep the CVT when did a away with it on the Pathfinder, why not just use the same transmission on the rest of the fleet. These are the reasons why Nissan is failing and turning into the next Mitsubishi.
I will wait for the electric Chevy Blazer.
Great real world review, per usual. $41k for 201 hp & 8 sec 0-60? I'll take Used BMW X3's for $35,000, Mayim.
The exterior and interior styling looks much nicer than the Rav in my opinion.
And that's where it ends. .
@@imdone1967I've been in both vehicles. It does not end there.
@jdm1039 yeah it does.
Nissan CVT is pure trash.
3 cylinder turbo, 🤣
Total BS...
People are so brainwashed with this tech crap , go buy one and good luck! I'll take a Toyota , Honda or Mazda over this everytime!
Setting up the question: which will fail first? The CVT or that cutting edge little engine? Nissan is the only manufacturer using this variable compression ratio technology.
I agree with your concerns and I hope Nissan didn’t screw up reliability or engine robustness. But Vtec was new too some time ago and now all manufacturers have it.
As for the Nissan CVTs, it seems that the key for longevity is transmission oil drain and refills per manufacturer maintenance schedule (every 30k miles) with Nissan OEM fluid, don’t cut corners on that!
@@ItsAlive111 Actually Nissan was the first Japanese manufacture to use valve timing or VTC, Honda enhance it to Vtec.
I wish the Rogue had a Vtec turbocharged with a 6 spd or 8 spd
@@khronin show you know little about Nissan race history, Nissan VVL was more reliable and more powerful than Honda vtec, problem was only certain amount of the engine was manufactured. Nissan did variable valve timing before honda, which was called N- VTC , Nissan was the first Japanese to use variable timing control (VTC) in the 3.0 liter engine (VG30DE) in 1986, Honda brought a more advance variable timing control called vtec in 1989. Nissan enhance the VTC to neo VVL develop by Autech a subsidiary of Nissan under Japanese CEO before Ghosn took helm of Nissan as CEO. Which birth the SR16VE and the SR20VE engines. Unlike vtech , VVL engages the change of intake and exhaust cams independently for a flatter, more consistent power band. Up to date the SR16VE N1 NA engine is the world most powerful NA 1.6 liter engine, develop 190 HP.
@@khronin hey, you do not know me so, all you saying is total nonsense, and I have past through many cars to know all about Toyotas, Honda and Nissans, long before you, and I can clearly say that without bias owning a Honda Accord currently and my education background as engineer (mechanical, electronic and electrical), also let me have basic of understanding how this machines work.
You clearly wrote " Honda is way more reliable and had the Vtec in racing form for years ", nobody force you to wrote that, but your comment is bias and based on your opinion without facts to, back up, because there are many B16 and SR16, around to gather data, and both engines have been reliable, so how is Honda vtech more reliable? You are butt hurt because someone correct you with your bias utterance, putting forth your opinion, and I know you have never driven the SR16VE N1 which are hand crafted engines, so you can say what ever you want, I have seen both engines at paly have you?
I do not need a you tube channel, The post is about Nissan VC-T and the question pose was about Nissan new 1.5 VC-T engine or CVT, which one would fail first, which VC-T is variable compression ratio with turbo, which is total different from valve timing (VTC) which is controlling the open and closing of valves, not about Honda Vtech or how does it compare to other makers, also nobody ask about if Honda was more reliable. What ever you are claiming that you did not do, that exactly what you are doing indirectly, that Honda has been doing this for years, as If they are the only ones.
However you argument turn out to be way off because VCT and VCR are not the same, you own a lot of performance cars, good for you, but actually go learn how they operate before commenting.
Tom, this installment was terrific👍🏻
Love the location shots. I've been to Bend a few times, kayaked on Lake Bachelor, and loved it all. Your wife's input is very telling as most people don't know all the specifics of the cars they drive but simply judge them by their comfort levels and amenities. As for great tacos, we have the best Fish Taco truck here in Napa. THE BEST! $4 and they are better than anything in northern CA. The Rogue simply is the best passenger car Nissan makes right now but their entire line-up is improving constantly. Hope they keep it up. I am disappointed with the new Z (the styling just isn't there), and the fact that the brand still uses CVTs. Hondas are decent but just that: decent. Great review!
Very nice video. I love when you get the family involved. Your wife is priceless with her utter disdain for the whole “video thing”. The reason you got such poor mileage to Bend is that you were climbing to 4,000+’. From 0’ in Seattle. I think Nissan did an excellent job with this model but the somewhat poor mileage in a FWD auto is surprising.
You lucked out with your concert. Ours was postponed (in Maupin) when the crew contracted Covid. No surprise seeing the superspreaders under the pianists feet in your video.
You lost me at cvt.
he lost me at 30 mpg in mostly highway driving on a 3 cylinder.
this is he problem with smaller engines...they have to work harder for power
CVT transmissions still suck at everything.
Exactly right
I always appreciate when Tom provides a mainstream vehicle review and wish he would provide a greater mix of them. I know professional car reviewers review vehicles provided by manufacturers but its hard to put a lot of stock in a top level, optioned up vehicle. I will go out on a limb and say that most people won't be spending over $40K for their Rogue. I also think there is a great lesson from Tom's wife not knowing much about cars and yet her one comment about good visibility knocked it out of the park. Car reviewers (probably by virtue of testing so many vehicles each year) tend to focus on things that mean less for most buyers. Visibility, gas millage, reliability (yes that is still a thing) means more than 0-60, autonomous driving features, quick shifting transmissions. Tom is one of the best in the business so I appreciate his videos. Thanks.
Insightful review as always. Beautiful scenery. Wonderful roadtrip. And RIP Lenny -- you seemed like a very good boy.
RIP LENNY @@
R.I.P., Lenny.
I love that you live and work in the PNW. We moved out here (greater Portland) in 2013 and just love it. So your videos “feel like home”. Thanks for taking us along on your vacation.
Love this video we’re trading in our 2019 maxima platinum for rogue platinum because we’ be approached the 65 mark and want more comfortable road trips. You and your lovely wife made a most informative and entertaining video. Our plan is a trip from NYC to Florida I know this car will be perfect. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾🙏🏾👋🏾
Really enjoyed your reviews! I don't exactly why, but your reviews give me the nostalgic feel of the 90's/00's Motor Week on PBS that I watch as a kid.
Thankfully Tom's reviews are much better than the old Motor Week garbage.
it's high time they gave the Rogue more power, and i really appreciate the new generation of ridiculously efficient and powerful miniature engines
Except you trade power for reliability especially with a 3 cylinder turbo
@@kickboxerforever00 Just make sure the dealer u buy it from offers a lifetime powertrain warranty so no issues dealt out of your own pocket involved
YOUR WIFE SHOULD JOIN YOU ON MORE VIDEOS... HAHAHA GREAT ENTERTAINING CONVERSATION IN CAR ❤️❤️👏👏👏 HAVE A GOOD DAY LOVE YOUR CHANNEL ..
Agree
Great review, Tom. I like you combined your real life road trip, which I can especially relate as I just moved from another state to Seattle area this year. Your reviews were one of the reasons.
Pro Pilot assist yells at you after 10 seconds of hands off the steering wheel? That seems worse than most of the lower-end driver assist systems out there. My wife's Hyundai Palisade will let you keep your hands off the wheel indefinitely as long as it senses you are paying attention with your eyes. It also does an outstanding job keeping the vehicle centered in the lane and taking sharp curves without any driver input. I did a 2 hour drive in it, thru some twisting canyons in UT and I touched the wheel maybe 5 times total in 2 hours.
I also like the Hyundai/Kia system. It's not all about "seconds handsfree". PPA seems to be a little more confident when it's doing its job. In the Hyundai, I didn't have nearly the level of handsfree time as you. Most I got was a minute and that was on straightways.
Tom's wife very much reminds me of my wife's level of interest in automotive technology! ;-)
Rip Lenny....
Great review. The fact your wife could not tell a difference between this engine and a traditional powerplant speaks volumes. I also like the fact that as a turbo this car runs on regular fuel and not the more expensive premium or high octane fuel. Three cylinders got my attention with the GR Yaris and the upcoming GR Corolla. My only concern is longevity. I know I am in the minority since I tend to keep my cars for a few years but I guess only time will tell with how durable these engines are. As with any new tech, we know there are inherent teething issues but if Nissan offers the same warranty on this engine as they do their other power plants that can be reassuring. Again well done and that concert in the mountains was amazing. I will definitely have to check that out myself. 42 grand is a little steep for this car but this looks like a quality vehicle. That price looks like it is knocking on the door of what the new Toyota Crown will be going for and I have been very impressed with what I have seen with the Crown and by default, you get that Toyota reliability. Just stepping back and seeing the quality of vehicles we are getting is very impressive.
So far 5,600 on our 22’ Rogue. The new Cvt is very responsive, and has the most traditional automatic feel that I’ve experienced. Can’t beat 30-33 city/mixed 36-41 highway!
I own the 2017.5 Rogue and tested the 22 Rogue while getting an oil change.
Its a LOT smoother than mine
I have a 4 cylinder CVT at 170 HP, with 26 city/33 highway mpg, 175 Lb-Ft torque.
The 2022 rogue has 201 HP, 225 Lb-Ft torque, 30 City, 37 hwy rated.
Of all the vehicles i know, i cant even recall a 3 cyclinder to exist. Yet the 3 cylinders have great acceleration and performance from my test drive experience. Coming from a rogue it feels awesome, yet for those who use traditional engines it might be an acquired taste for you guys.
Although I TRULY love this new rogue, i plan on running this rogue until it falls apart. I bought it brand new and enjoy every single mile that ONLY I HAVE PUT ON IT. (Less than 1% was by other drivers, such as valets letting a family member borrow it, etc)
One day I'll put an end to the myth of Nissana making bad engines. (I hope 😬)
@@ericolens3 GR Yaris and GR Corolla are 3 cylinders. Hell even i8 has a 3 cylinder engine.
Good luck, I can't trust a Nissan Product anymore that has a cvt. 2013 Sentra nearly killed me on the highway after the cvt randomly died with under 100,000k. I would definitely take a Tucson, CX5, or Rav4 over these.
This is the review I was waiting for. My wife and I were looking seriously at this model - in SV guise - … but I was cross shopping nit with the Hyundai Santa Fe which is just a tad larger. Also, the Santa Fe has the hybrid and plug in variants which is more what I am looking at.
Good luck on being able to get 1 at a decent price and getting 1 in general lol
@@occckid123 Edmunds shows there are two available within 200 miles of me, and suggests paying $49,000 for SEL model. Also, I'm not sure Santa Fe is bigger. Rogue is rather spacious and feels mid-size instead of compact.
@@moozillamoo2109 lmfao insane! 2 available then you have 2 call the dealership and see what upcharge they charge for the vehicle also and thats if the 2 are really even available by the time you get there.
@@moozillamoo2109 Santa Fe cargo is actually larger and has generous underfloor storage. I have looked at both.
@@occckid123 yeah...up here in Canada it is at least a six month wait for an SV because SV models come out of Japan...S models come out of Mexico and are easier to get...but still a wait.
Beautiful views Tom! Curious to see where this engine will end up in the future and I’m glad that you and your wife enjoyed your vacation 👍🏾
i enjoyed your review Tom! the new styling inside and out and the new engine is what won me over to get my '22 Rogue SV Premium which packs nice amenities, very pleasant to drive specially on long trips. Gets excellent gas mileage for being a midsize SUV. Def a win-win!
How much gas mileage in city and mpg ?
Tom, Please bring a six footer 12:15 along for all future cabin comfort tests 😁 The spacious proportions demonstrate yet another competitor has put RAV4's cramped interior to shame.
Maybe have a tall evil cousin or step sibling twice removed to assist evil twin?
@@ThorMaxx Yes, a nice cousin could also offset an evil twin.
Glad you got to make a road trip video - your trip to Japan a few years back was some of your best work. I don't know how much / how often you can manage that or if even a side-channel would be worth your time. But you have an eye with your videos that is a clear step above the "this button does this" crowd of car reviewers. I'm not all that interested in the Nissan personally, but you got me to watch over 20 minutes of it here and that would be enough for me to recommend people to have a look at it if they are in the market.
42 K for a...3 cylinder Nissan Rogue!!! The very substance of the ambitious is merely the shadow of a dream.
Yeah cars are getting really pricey.
Another excellent review. Nicely interwoven with your vacation footage.
CVT no thank you! 3 cylinder = high stress engine = no reliability, hell no. Get the CX5 Mazda, it’s bulletproof reliability and luxury all for less money
There's a bit of irony that the Rogue is sold in other countries as the X-Trail, which is presumably it's original name, and it comes as a 'E-Power' hybrid. So it's the US version Rogue that gets the less techy power train.
The 2021's and 2022's are the ones with the "old" 4-cylinder engines. It's the 2023 models that have this new 3-cylinder with turbro.
I am with you, Tom about PHEV and that is why I own a Kia Sorento PHEV. I have no interest in any cars/SUVs with pure gasoline engines, but love your reviews anyway about anything including this Rogue. I look forward to seeing your review of the Mitsubishi version and it's redesigned PHEV in particular. Unfortunately there is zero news about when it will show up in the N. American markets.
Do not buy a Nissan with the 1.5L engine. Slow cranks, barely starts and sometimes just doesn’t start, dealer says it’s normal. Avoid.
185k people bought rogue . They must not have been introduced to JATCO. 😅😅😅
Tom, your wife had me laughing when you began asking her those technical questions. How could you! (I suspect some evil twin crept in😊) Anyway, great presentation as always!
RIP Lenny
RIP Lenny
I'm glad to see Tom's wife has my wife's same reaction whenever I drop my nuggets of useless information (her words) on her.
Odd number cylinders have never worked out. Even for Volvo and Volkswagen.
Love watching your reviews!
How about adding Ltr/100km numbers for your pals here up North too 🤣
Thanks for the review,Mr. V! I had no idea the Rogue was going to be this nice! Nice pricing too! I just checked with Mossey.
Great review; some really lovely views! Nice to have Mariko's perspective. [good that Lenny got to enjoy that kayak trip--he'll be missed]
I'll stick with Mazda, & no belt/chain design CVTs or turbo engines.
Looks like a great family option that should be on everyone's shopping list. Well featured, nice ride and well priced. Regarding fuel economy calculations, modern ECUs know precisely how much fuel is being used as the fuel/air mixture on today's vehicles is a masterclass of precision, especially with today's emission requirements, fuel economy standards and especially so on a variable compression turbo engine like this. Filling up the tank until it clicks is nowhere near as accurate. The ECU is likely accurate to within a few milliliters of fuel per tank.
Yup, but a guy has to show his math.
@@DrivenCarReviews For sure, I get it. However, the ECU should be the most accurate thing you can use if you want (despite what some naysayers online say). If you want, you can reset the fuel economy gauge when you get the vehicle, then make note of what it says at the end of your time with it. That should be a good reflection of its fuel consumption. Of course, that's only relative to how it was driven by you during your time with it. Things like temperature, altitude, quality of fuel, how you are driving it and the driving conditions as a whole all play into fuel economy, so they should really be taken as a guide, not gospel. The good thing I've seen from you is you tend to drive the vehicles like most normal people do (you don't hypermile it, but also don't floor it constantly). It always bothered me to see some reviewers drive a vehicle like they stole it, then berate it for poor fuel economy. :)
@@jeffer1101 my 21 rogue is off by 1l/100km. Always like that. Full tank to full tank is always the most accurate way to measure fuel economy.
@@jackl5557 The ECU knows precisely how much fuel is being used. Also, you shouldn't fill your fuel tank up the top of the nozzle (where it would essentially spill out if you kept going) as it can damage the emissions systems in the fuel tank (filters, etc). Also, depending on the grade of where you are parked at the station, that may also affect how much fuel you can get into the tank.
Lenny❤️🐶
RIP Lenny
Bend is such a great city. Awesome mountain biking and just a cool feel overall.
Nah we need a 2 cylinder turbo!
THANKS for producing a fine video! May Lennie rest in peace!
Excellent highly entertaining beautifully produced!!!
i love these reviews when you take trips with the vehicle you're reviewing. great stuff about the vehicle and a little travel vlog. win win
Yes, Tom really well done and most enjoyable. Feels like we get a quick vacay...
I wonder if this engine will make its way into the Sentra. Great review, love the content.
It would give it class leading or close to class leading fuel economy and acceleration
Love this style of review Tom.....well done thanks for the terrific content.
Great review as always. Also, I can concur that Burgerville is amazing.
Especially when Walla Walla onion rings are on season.
@@DrivenCarReviews The fried asparagus is likewise delicious.
I wish they’d creep a little farther north into the Seattle area. So good 😊
I'm getting 30mpg by driving 70mph in Mazda CX-5 with 2.5 250hp 4-cyl turbo and 6AT...and I don't see any reason why someone would go for 3-cyl-turbo with CVT instead
Not to mention that the CX-5 looks much better inside and out.
14:07 Is that a 2002 I see there 👀 lol
Naturally aspirated 4 cylinder engines may use more gas and have less power, but they are extremely simple and reliable. They can last hundreds of thousands of miles with little repairs or maintenance. What Nissan Rogue should have just focused on is updating just the CVT to have a launch gear and make it a chain instead of a a flimsy steel belt. Make the CVT more durable like Toyota and Honda does... that's all I care about it simplicity and reliability.
The 2022 model do has a chain instead of the 2021 which has a belt
Cool review.
Rogue, nice interior, n that’s it.
Godspeed Lenny, Godspeed.
Nissan made a mistake my not offering rouge as a phev
Toyota sienna minivan four-wheel-drive gets better fuel economy
Ha, right? Talking about the new hybrid Sienna?
Around town yes , on the highway the rogue is slightly better . I have both
I can buy this and live in it too cause I can’t afford rent anymore
Ughhhh, long term, I can’t see this 3 cylinder giving trouble free miles…head gaskets, timing belts, etc. I bet in 10 years, you’ll be hard pressed to find any 200k mile Rouges around…but Tom….as always great reviews thank you!
We'll just have to wait and see. Typically, these powertrains are torture tested for reliability. No one wants a bad reputation.
He likes the word electronic...Did you know it takes oil and / or coal to make electricity??? 🤔
Its the dirty little secret they fail to tell you... 😜
The sun, wind and water also generate electricity. Those methods are growing, while the others, especially coal, are dropping. That's the dirty little secret you failed to mention.
Sounds like my wifes' sewing machine.
Excellent review. Thank you Tom.
xtrail/rouge e-power thats a techy powertrain
12:20 nice showing an actual person in the back seat.
All of that cool tech in the engine and for what? 31 mpg highway? Is Nissan super sure they don't wanna offer a hybrid?
I said the same thing. My V6 Murano just got 28mpg on a long trip.
I drive from Seattle to Portland for work regularly. Have been averaging 37-40 consistently on the hwy. 2022 SV AWD model. Great car!
car salesman say things like "a real spare tire" what does that mean? its only meant for short term use, if thats what a real spare tire means.
Many cars only come with repair kits now. So yeah, real spare.
$40k for 3 cylinders!
I've had my '22 Rogue for a few months, have noticed an irritating "whirr" noise from under the hood, occurs after about 35 mph, not really noticeable after 60 or so due to wind/road noise. It is more noticeable upon letting off the gas from around 50 mph. Very annoying with no radio on, bearable with music on. I was wondering if anyone else with a '22 has this same "whirr" coming from under their hood? My dealership said it is just inherent to this turbo with this CVT. I didn't hear it till I had about 1K miles on it.
I tried a 23 out recently and did notice a faint whirr anytime moving forward. No noise when stopped. Loved the car but deciding if the noise is a deal breaker.
@@tomdwyer4421 Tom, unless you always drive with no radio on, you really won't notice it. I've actually become accustomed to it and even with my radio/music on low volume, I can't say that I hear the whirr from the turbo. I like the Rogue for so many good reasons. I am, however, having a concern about my AC temps being strange, sometimes having to dial it all the way down to "LO" to feel cold air, then I can dial it up to my comfortable 70 or so. I'll talk to my dealer's service dept soon about that issue.
Variable compression please stay away 😢
Hello Tom, I just came from the Nissan Dealership (Cochrane, AB Canada) test drove the Reouge 2023 Platinum.I loved it, signed the papers and just waiting for the approval. If it is all good we will picking it up Friday or Saturday! cannot wait! first trip will be from home (Airdrie, AB) to Vancouver then Kelowna and back to Airdrie! I still sceptical on the CVT and 3 cyl. but the ride on the test drive was so nice, smooth and the interior is so beautiful it can almost go against a Lexus! I hope it will be reliable for the next 5 years for us!?
Impressive Vehicle, great review! But for $42K, I’d rather invest in a RAV 4,(Toyota quality don’t cha know)
Maybe, but the ride quality and interior appointments are head and shoulder over RAV4 with the gas engine.
RAV4's are reliable but are cramped and noisy on the hwy. I am sure the Venza is better.
The engine won't last with those turbos. The nissan cvt trans is terrible. At that price get a Toyota that will go 100,00 miles without major breakdowns. My 201@ Nissan rogue is going on third set of motor mounts at 165,000 miles. Out 2009 Toyota venza v6 has original motor mounts at 200,000 miles
As I really hope Nissan has improved these I just can't help to not trust it. I would have loved to see at least a improved warranty like Hyundai offers. After my 2013 cvt died with under 100,000k I don't trust the brand. Let's be honest those 3 cylinder turbos are not going to hold up either. I'll take a 2.5L 8speed auto Tucson over this for the value play or if your rich go for the Mazda CX5 or Toyota Rav4.
Caspian Blue? Expecting Black sea Indigo and Azov Lapis, also a two-tone version with yellow roof. The front end is ugly and asks for a quick re-design, the tablet instead of real instruments is too cheap for a car with luxury pretensions. An ok transport I guess.
Tom, Come on man! Not fair that my wife is out of town, and what do you do? Go to a burger joint and your wife talks about how great it is (how did you get her on camera for that long?)! Now I have burger addiction symptoms 🍔...
Been awhile since I commented. Thanks partially to your advocacy of hybrids and pure electrics, I now am not really interested in exclusive ICE vehicles anymore (just happened to click on this one). I've always been into fuel economy, but you've help push me over the edge. I see exhaust pipes now and think "tons of CO2."
Over the last year I sold the 1992 Honda Civic VX I'd had for 25 years. I couldn't afford a full blown electric - they're just too expensive - but I did go half-way by buying a 2012 Toyota Prius V. I love just about everything about it: 40-44 mpg, room and comfort, and the ergonomics. The only real complaint is the buzzy engine and transmission when under hard acceleration.
Based on your reviews as well as others, I want to get a new or gently - used Ford Maverick hybrid for my wife on our 25th wedding anniversary in November 2023. I think even Evil Twin will approve of that.
Keep up the consistent good work! No one on RUclips makes better use of viewer time than you do.
tom i am not doing any more vidoes voelk
I said I'd be taking a week off here and there.