Surface Pro 11 (2024) First Look REVIEW: HOT OR NOT?
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- Опубликовано: 3 июл 2024
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Video Index:
00:00 Intro
02:11 Specs & Pricing
03:08 Unboxing, and Design
04:29 Ports & Connections
14:14 Build & Color
05:39 Display
06:22 Keyboard & Pen Accessories
08:50 IR Webcam
09:41 Initial Benchmarks & Performance
10:16 Thermals & Fan Noise
10:40 Battery Life
11:31 App Compatibility
12:56 Pros & Cons after 48 Hours
13:38 Outro 
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The good:
- CPU performance.
- Battery life
- Display
Bad:
- Not ready for gaming.
- Numerous apps not working.
Yeah, but for my needs, the benefits outway the negatives.
Funny how no one EVER shares the number of apps that don't work vs the number that do.
Could it be because we are talking less than 10 out of 35 million....
@RK-um9tu I just need a few to work. Pycharm, Visual Studio Community, Power BI, Teams, Word, and Excel.
IntelliJ doesn't work that I am aware of.
@@RK-um9tuand oftentimes, they’re the most obscure ones too. I get why people really hammer that home though, because it’s still important to know what’s usable or not, but the vagueness does get you too. As for the gaming, these were never EVER marketed as something you game on weekends they?? Maybe I’m wrong, but when I think of the surface lineup I don’t think gaming.
Can you elaborate which apps haven't worked for you? Just curious before I buy... Thanks!
$450 is ridiculously expensive for an accessory that should be included with the surface for free. I have also read some early reviews of that keyboard that found firmware and disconnection issues. Microsoft really needs to wake up and come to their senses.
They don't include it because they have different keyboard options (a basic one, one with the pen dock, and now this wireless one with pen dock), so you can pick one that fits your needs and budget. Costco includes the keyboard and pen in their bundle btw! It's not the Flex Keyboard though.
You do realize you can just buy a portable wireless mechanical keyboard for like 100 bucks. And as an upshot you get like 50x better typing experience. Microsoft is right not to include it, I don't want to pay for something I don't need.
I think it's ok not to include it but it should be priced at $100-130
Wrong PC, but I received my Surface Laptop 7 today! Fuck me it's incredible, currently watching this on the carpet, plugged in on full power mode, with 20 tabs open amongst other programmes and by now my Intel laptop would have set on fire!! This is silent and cool! Can't wait for your thoughts. Great video as always my friend!
Working on that video coming soon.
Weird. I have laptop from 2019 and can do that without issue.
@@maartenmidden1651 Lighten up!
@@maartenmidden1651same laptop? What about read and write speed?
What color did you get?
5:29 - same! Gorgeous colour, I was drooling over it (especially on the Surf Laptop) yesterday during your live stream.
So good!
The keyboard costing $450 is a dealbreaker for me. That's too expensive!!
Yes it is very expensive
Great review as always!
Microsoft must be out of their damn mind charging 450 bucks for a keyboard
bro has never heard of apple
Don't buy it 😂
Yeah just get an older one
Word lmao@@generalozzby
You should see Apple and Samsung's keyboard prices with less functionality and cheaper materials lol
Another good video, Andrew. Thanks brotha! Looking forward to your Surface Laptop review.
Please make a list of all rated laptops to easily choose just like just josh excel sheet or site
What I DO like about the stylus keyboard combo is that the pen is "right there" where you’ll notice if its missing. I've lost my Samsung S-pen simply because its stored on the back where it can easily fall off without you realizing it. An expensive little mistake.
Nice review sounds very promising!
The cool jacket is back 👍
Very interesting i like the direction they are going. Hopefully more ARM apps and programs in the future
So far so good here! I went with the base model X Plus Surface Pro and upgraded to a 1TB SSD. It isn't quite as sleek and sexy as my previous Robo & Kala 2-in-1, but the nearly 2x performance more than makes up for that. 🤓
One of the things that surprised me a lot was that the X64 version of Synology drive client is working perfectly on my Surface Pro 11
Oh and btw when you're using the Flex Keyboard wirelessly, you can fold the top part back into a triangle to lift it up a bit so it's not flat :)
The Surface Pro 11 (2024) certainly has a lot of potential, love the beautiful sapphire blue color, gorgeous OLED display, the webcam and internal mic quality is stunning, has 2 USB-C 4 ports and expandable SSD. My observation with no USB-A ports is that manufacturers for the most part are slowly getting rid of it in favor of USB-C. The same thing applies to the SD card, HDMI and the audio jack. This product however can get crazy expensive especially having the Keyboard and Pen as separate attachments which will add to the total cost. This may very well turn off a lot of potential customers. I am however looking forward to the review of the Surface laptop which I know will come shortly. Once again Andrew, you have outdone yourself with this very thorough review which is very much appreciated my friend. Thank you!! 👍😁
Agree loss of ports is bad especially headphone jack. But cheap adapter USB-C - 3.5MM plug works alright. For HDMI I'd prefer using more versatile USB-C to HDMI cable which has some advantages.
Pricing is not bad if you compare to Pro X especially with the perf/battery boost. I prefer they don't bundle keyboard every time since if you still have one from previous model, you don't have to pay again for a new one. Second they still sell the regular keyboard with pen for almost half price(I'd prefer the lower weight anyway). Other than that there are lots of great deals throughout the year to get decent discount if you can wait.
Does this run normal windows programs or is it like a tablet running tablet type apps?
I can see myself buying this next year on sale, as a secondary device. I fly often due to work, and using this on the plane for a mix of work/fun, without having to worry about battery life, would be awesome.
Can't wait for your surface laptop 7 review. Popcorn is ready, I want the 15 " in black. I currently own the surface laptop 4 15" in black, but don't like the Intel chip and battery life is nowhere as good as they claimed. I would prefer Snapdragon
The fact that your colorimeter and spider device didn't work is most likely because of drivers and that is the biggest Achilles heel with this Qualcomm processor.
You can emulate your way out of many x86 applications but drivers need to be compiled for the ARM architecture.
If that doesn't happen then this makes a device a non-starter for very specialized use cases like yours where you have to measure color accuracy for reviews
I have the Surface Pro 8 and was curious about the 11. Thanks for the review. Would upgrade but waiting for the 5g version. Any thoughts on what I can do with my 8? It wouldn’t get a decent trade in
Best granular tech channel out. Love the reviews man. Thanks
Appreciate it!
Excellent review (subscriber), many thanks!
Kickstand is a must have (far better than any iPad), as well as OLED touchscreen and NPU 45 TOPS for edge AI computing (eg, Da Vinci Resolve 19). Basic keyboard with pen (less expensive than Apple…). Windows 11 versus iPadOS (no comment), with all-day battery life! Native RISC/ARM app are coming (same when transition to M1). Sapphire blue is gorgeous. 1TB for mine. Greetings 🇨🇭
AMD, if you were to write on the screen with the pen for a bit...like a page on OneNote with the tablet flat...does the screen get warm? Always bothered me on older devices....a Samsung tablet surface will remain mostly cool and I'm hoping that's the case here now that they've moved to ARM.
Is it possible that the keyboard is fully compatible from an older Surface Pro X, first gen ARM?
Suggested devices to review: Thinkpad x1 carbon gen 12 and P1 gen 7 with sensel touchpad.
What was a very nice video indeed. These machines are gorgeous!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Quality video is good 🎉 love choice like a oled display
Debating between this and the Lenovo thinkbook 13x gen4 😮💨
Thank you so much, I really like the product. Very slick and endurent on battery. They should consider to keep prices down though.
I never used a Surface Pro, but how's typing on the keyboard? Just from the looks of it, it seems so flimsy, but that's probably just a prejudice on my part,
It’s the best I’ve ever typed on, my average typing speed is around 80 words per minute, with that keyboard it’s around 120. Mac, Lenovo, HP, this beats them all for me, I have the signature keyboard, though I’m sure the flex one is even better especially with that haptic touchpad - even without the haptic, the one mine has is amazing!
I know you displayed the CPU, but talk about the DIFFERENT Snapdragon CPU skus and how they affect the performance.
In the full review coming soon
I love this dune colour ♥️♥️♥️
Okay PC. The color scheme of this unit and keyboard in blue looks very nice. Port selection fair. Camera looked very good. At this point in time does it make sense to pay this kind of money for a PC with mediocre running specs that does not run all the windows applications? If possible potential purchasers should wait several months or longer until compatability bugs are worked out so most windows applications work with this new processor. Having a special charging connector can be an obstacle. My question is can this unit also be charged through the USB-C ports? Great First Look review. Did you get a good night's sleep after the long livestream the other night?
A little sleep but so much to do
Yes, it will change thru the USB-C ports.
Could you make a comparison of Surface Pro 11 and HP Envy 14?
That would be really awesome.
I think this particular ARM based Surface is good for people doing productivity tasks and very light gaming. As an enterprise developer, it's a no go for me and so my Surface Pro 9 will soldier on.
Hey andrew do you have any idea how the Lenovo slim pro 7x you got speakers compared to the macbooks at all?
Someone at Reddit said not great. I think it was also mentioned Asus was bit better. Hopefully we can see comparison review of all those Copilot+ devices.
Hi. I just got mine. I don't know how to connect the keyboard to the surface so i can use them seperately. did you connected them via bluetooth?
Make sure you have the Flex Pro Keyboard. Otherwise it will not work.
I don't see on video - which Windows version on the board after all updates ?
I hope it's Windows 11 24H2
Yes
I wonder surface pro 11 usb4 port possible connect with thunderbolt dock(ex. Belkin Thinderbolt 3 dock pro) for use multiple external display using only one port.
9:14 This video quality is just incredible ! Even my phone doesn't have this video quality, and I've got a pixel !
Does the SP11 run quieter and cooler than the SP9, or is that claim all bluster?
As for the intel based SP9, for the most part the SP11 is much quieter and cooler. That being said, the time you do put it under heavy load you will notice the fans and it starts to warm up but not quite as warm as the SP9.
@@andrewmarcdavid Thanks. Cool and quiet is critical for me. I’ll endure the lack of app compatibility for a while for the extra silence and comfort.
Re your battery test: were you looping a locally downloaded 4K video with the WiFi turned off (Microsoft's favourite battery test) or were you streaming said 4K video via WiFi?
Battery life is important. That's the only thing that could make up for the compatibility issues - maybe.
Streaming via WiFi
That price for the KB and pen is just stupid
Microsoft devices are Halo devices for the ecosystem. If you wait other manufacturers will provide more choices in a price you might be okay with Windows has always been about choice and there are many players and this is just the beginning of the arm ecosystem.
@@wordlv I don't need to wait, and that these are the first arm devices has nothing to do with what I'm saying. They have always been expensive and these "pro" versions are even worse. It's just plain stupid, idiotic or however someone would like to call it. 450 for the KB and pen, really?
Anyone notice PWM on the OLED model of SP11? or they have DC Dimming?
See zollotech review (PWM chapter). OLED afaik always requires PWM but typical performance here. The bigger concern I might have is long-term burn-in (uneven wear), especially given static taskbar.
a lot of hype and it turns out that everything is still green, little by little it is maturing but hey, I look forward to the review of the dell precision 5690 :)
Concerns regarding the new keyboard: 1. Seems only has Bluetooth connection, this may bring you trouble under some circumstances. 2. All wireless keyboards' batteries will die soon or later, for this new keyboard, don't think you can replace it, so you may need to spend another $450 in two years. Thanks for the review.
That is a great point about the wireless keyboard. $450 is a lot of money to spend on a disposable accessory.
As a long-term Surface Pro user, my past problem with their keyboards has been fabric peeling around the edges.
Hello Andrew, can this run the following apps: Autodesk Programs (Autocad, 3ds Max, Revit, etc...) Ableton Live, Photoshop, Sketchup, D5 Render, Lumion, Vray ....
Please let me know if you can test any of these apps. also, if the thunderbolt can handle an external GPU thanks.
Josh's channel ran AutoCAD on one, which seemed to work. Unfortunately, he had no idea what he was doing with AutoCAD, so it was impossible to tell how nice it was to use.
Photoshop also works very well as it’s natively supported
in lenovo thinkpad p1 gen7 lpcamm2 memory module
No microSD slot -- what a shame. Major fail for me.
I am able to get this for the same price as a spectre 14 2024, should i get this or spectre?
I would wait until the bugs are ironed out
I hope someone tests World of Warcraft on this, lol... Only PC game I occasionally play these days.... The 15" Surface Laptop 7 with 32GB and 1TBssd, looks tempting. I just wish they'd carry over that same hi-res display that that Surface Books had.
Mirrorball Man approved
1:48 Did the video just restart? Its like I'm watching the beginning of the video. Perhaps you intended to start the video here and cut in the wrong segment.
Looks fine to me
I watched your live unboxings couple of days ago and it seems like Microsoft is the only one that did the transition right since they control windows and they install a clean version of it unlike other manufacturers.
The surface line is the one to compete and compare with the macbook air and ipad pro which gets destroyed by the surface pro to be honest.
How is this a laptop PC without a keyboard included
How does it perform on resolve :D
Apparently renders aren’t the best, but that’s because Davinci is still in beta and doesn’t utilize the gpu just yet
Snapdragon X Elite 💐💐💐😍❤️
All I can say is that this may be the best Surface Pro to date. The Surface Pro major weakness has been battery life when away from the AC power supply. And the OLED display and Bluetooth keyboard in my view makes the new Microsoft Surface Pro almost perfect.
I still have a concern with software and hardware compatibility with this ARM base Surface Pro. Though I must admit for many people this will not be a concern for everyday productivity and entertainment use cases. In that regard many users that work or play in the Microsoft 365 product and services will be very happy. That said, I am looking forward to the Intel Lunar Lake offering and I am hoping Microsoft offers a version of this for the Microsoft Surface Pro 11.
For tablet people it would be a good buy if it wasn't the $300 keyboard and the exclusion of 3.5mm headphone jack.
Wondering if its IP68 to justify that!
🤔Worth upgrading from Pro 8 to this?
Depends on your configuration
@@SomeoneWhoIsAnnoying - Yeah should have mentioned SP8 - 11th Gen i7, 16GB, 256GB - Used as a daily driver, without and issues.
Andrew Got his own Microsoft Surface Expo🎉😅.
Is it worth upgrading from surface pro 9?
If $1500 for a youtube and document machine makes sense.
Definitely not. Speciallly because I don't trust the quality of chip an motherboard. Wait to see the reviews before spend the hardworking money.
I would wait for the second generation of these. They have some improvements to make but are definitely on the right track.
Is kind of silly not to include they keyboard. 999 + 450 is a lot of money. The surface laptop makes more sense, at least for me.
If the Surface Pro 11 isn't compatible with Windows programs, it's no better than a good Android tablet. What is Microsoft trying to sell? What I'm trying to buy is a laptop with Windows productivity. In terms of compatibility with existing programs, will the Surface Pro 11 work with CAD, Photoshop, Revit, etc. as well as a Windows laptop?
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I’ve realized based on all the comments I need a cheap computer as I stream shows or movies and work in office and that’s about it lol
This black pen on the $450 light blue keyboard is an eye sore. Couple that with the black charger... Really Microsoft has learnt nothing from Apple all these years? But they want to charge Apple prices? Great review Andrew. Thanks
They should have used the prior design where the pen was hidden when the keyboard was used in the raised angle.
I'd really be interested in a Robo and Kala V2 instead of this. Just way too much money for what you get.
:) GO GO GO ARM !!!
Linux????? Who's exited????
Exited Windows
last years says to me, don’t believe in potential, product is as is
Excellent sound! Very sharp video. Slightly blueish colors? But skin color was ok. Could be due to lighting.
Some early testers suggest that Prism improves emulation speed by 5-10% compared to previous emulation generation, and that the rest of emulation speed increase is due to better processor
Some testers report that performance in battery mode is ca 95% of performance when powered from the grid (i.e., for Surfaces; Samsung Edge appears to have much bigger difference between plugged-in and battery performance).
Emulation speed... If you have Lightroom available, check AI noise reduction. Takes 5-13 min for 20 Mpx images on my HP Dragonfly 12th gen Intel laptop. Is this comparable on SP 11 in emulation mode? I'd expect a solid improvement in a native ARM version of Lightroom if taking advantage of the NPU.
OK now give me an amd version with some ports and I might actually spend that much.
I was excited when this was anounced, and prepared to spend about €1200. But by the time I get the oled screen, 1TB storage and the keyboard, it's up to €2500+ 🤢
The port selection, or lack thereof, is atrocious.
…it’s a tablet what do you expect? If you need ports get the surface laptop
@@asrp4284 I have a Surface tablet that's many many years old at this point that has better Port selection. Tired of companies going backwards and giving us less and less options over time at a higher price point. I'm tired of all the oems soldering in the memory or SSD so we can't upgrade it. This type of thing should be discouraged not encouraged and defended.
Tablet form factor is irrelevant. My Surface Pro 7+ and my Surfaces before it had USB A and micro SD ports which I find to be useful. Disappointed MS decided to remove them.
What’s the go with not being able to download and use Google Drive for windows on it?
I’ve also downloaded the Netflix app and the colours are all warped in the app.
Microsoft teams and outlook also only allow the ‘new’ versions of the apps - which aren’t great and missing so many basic features .
I got mine on Tuesday and NOT having a good time at all.
I returned mine. I was having all these same issues. Device getting super hot and laggy at times.
Gorilla glass 5 is a dissapointment. That standard was released almost TEN years ago. My laptop upgrade cycle is arround 3 to 6 years, so screen durability is absolutly paramount.
Why is it disappointilng?
I would like to laugh into the face of the person who decided that the keyboard should be 300+ USD
I'm sorry, but why don't you talk about how glossy the display is? It's like a mirror, the glare on it is unacceptable. I bought the IPS one, got disappointed so I went to the store to buy a more expensive one with OLED screen to compare. Both are the same, all you can see on the screen is yourself in front of it. I tired to turn off dark mode, set a bright wallpaper, but any time I open up a website and there's a darker color (not black) you can clearly see yourself at 80% brightness. Using this constantly above 80% brightness takes away the power you would save with ARM chip... I'm going to return both of the Surface Pros due to this, despite how premium this tablet is in general, this level of glaring/reflection is a deal breaker for me 😢
This is a first look and full review is coming
@@andrewmarcdavid Thanks Andrew for the quick response! I'm really sad seeing Microsoft missed this opportunity when Apple and Samsung have already adopted anti reflective coating. Even my 2021 M1 Pro MacBook Pro has some kind of darker layer, I can barely see myself in it...
@@pregigeri8421There haven't been any good Microsoft laptop ever.
just get a matte screen protector, makes it so much better
@@godboat. Sure, if it was a $700 device I would do that, but we are talking about $1600 here. If I spend that amount on a tablet with an OLED screen it's because I want to enjoy the content not ruin it with a blurry matte screen protector. I've tested so many big screen devices with OLED, like Samsung Tabs, new iPad, Asus and Lenovo laptops. You will see glaring on all, it's glass, but we are talking about real mirror effect on the Surface Pro, it's another level. I'm not sure if it's a gorilla glass 5 or what, but it was a silly choice, especially next to my Samsung S24 Ultra which has 0 glare. The snapdragon Samsung Galaxy Book 4 Edge also has the same anti reflective coating like the S24U, I wish Samsung would sell it in Hungary.
Two thousand dollars, as tested! I mean, wow! I thought Samsung charged too much for its tablet keyboard, but this takes "overpriced" to a whole new level. Did they charge so much because there are no advertising stickers in the usual place on the palm rest? I don't get it. I can buy an excellent-quality RGB screen cover tablet keyboard for $100 all day, any day on Amazon. Yes, the "artist" stylus is cute, but again, we're talking four hundred and fifty bucks for the pair, and I don't see it! 💸 💰
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X Elite and X Plus are a big disappointment so far. Especially emulation seems not to work properly at the moment.
In what way? Besides anti cheat in games
@@christianr.5868 exactly!! I’ve had ZERO problems with mine!!
@@christianr.5868 almost all adobe apps except PS for example
@@christianr.5868 in every way.
This generation is a trial.
Intel and AMD 2024 chips are much much better in everything
@@HDRPC well I’m getting the snapdragon surface pro 11. Don’t really care about the other platforms in this instance as they don’t offer what I want. I was curious about the emulation layer and specific apps that don’t work besides games
Overall X Elite is not looking good.
Intel and amd is much much better.
Thats it.
Based on what source? Curious to see how lunar lake will compete with the Snapdragon and AMD chips
As far as battery life it certainly goes to the X Elite, but what good is battery life if performance suffers? If you're doing heavier tasks, you'll most likely be plugged in anyway. The X Elite needs to work through an emulation layer to get x86 apps working which slows down performance, and even then many apps don't run.
If you need to run heavier apps, the Surface Pro 9 is the better buy; you can get the high end one certified refurbished for about $1000. If you need battery life, a document writer and a RUclips machine, get an iPad Air instead.
@@Altronn Meteor Lake laptops already matching or beating X Elite BATTERY LIFE.
Lunar Lake is coming within 2 or 3 months.
No headphone jack, no USB type-A...no soup for you, Microsoft!! 🥣
Yeah... If I wanted an iPad I would just get an iPad.
yeah surface pro peaked with sp7. you get expandable storage with the sp7
@@chee_wai I still use my SP7 :D it's actually amazing. If only I could replace the battery and upgrade the APU...
Google Drive doesn't seem to support Arm64. @microsoft and @google - play nice