I've been blown away by my Mach 6. Does everything and fast. Just gets out of the way and has been fine for me even going 30km long runs. I wanna rotate my shoes but then I wanna put the Mach 6 on for everything from easy to hard
How has the durability been? I've been seriously considering the Mach 6, but everywhere I read people complain about short durability and lifetime, and that's a very general sentiment I read online about Hoka shoes, so I'm on the edge.
I've done over 600km on the NB 860v14s . Chose these for stability in a running shop after gait analysis. Used for all runs as trained for my first half marathon and the race itself. Been trust worthy and still doing the business as they approach 700km. Still have life for easy runs for sure. Will probably go for the Adizero SL2 next
I bought the SL2 based on your reviews, and I have to say I LOVE how lightweight and bouncy it is, however, an advice to my fellow heavy hobby joggers is that the shoe is a bit unstable and make my knees hurt
Hi, Yowana. I just wanted to say I'm a beginner runner who picked up the habit 2 weeks ago. I find your your videos incredibly helpful and informative. You've earned another subscriber. Keep up the great work. Your videos are very motivational and have inspired me to want to be consistent with daily mileage and slow cardio progression even though it's only 5 K per day. I have literally picked up almost every shoe you talk about in all your videos. About 10 shoes in total. Make that 11 with the Puma Deviate Nitro 3 when I get a chance to get it. I've ran so much in the last 2 weeks, I now have shin splints and waiting to recover. I am proud of the work you have put into being a professional running enthusiast. Excellent work.
Haha I was waiting for the ‘I now have shin splints’ line and there it was 😂 Jokes aside, I’ve been there and with time and patience you will find a way to ramp up distance without getting injured. Enjoy the journey!
@@tadejdanev5030 definitely too many for a beginner. But if money ain't an issue I'm guessing he's finding a brand that fits him. For my feet it's new balance 1080, or puma nitros for daily. Asics is okay. My feet no likey saucony or Adidas I dno why... Haven't tried any running nike or brooks shoes
I have a blast in my NB4s and i've been loving them more since i got the SL2 and didn't really fell in love with them after my feet felt really sore, can't wait to get the NB5s
As a heavier runner (225 pounds) here's my Top 5 of 2024: 1. New Balance Fuel Cell SC Trainer V3 2. Saucony Tempus V1 or V2 3. Altra Torin V7 4. Nike Infinity RN4 5. New Balance Fuel Cell Rebel V4
Been usind DN3 as a daily trsiner. its great at easy paces, comfy and great grip. Ive run faster sessions it and its ok, but love it for easy cruising. The plate is pretty flexible and has a nice comfy ride. I totally agree with ur views on plates btw. There are lots of unplated shoes stiffer than plated ones. Hoka mach 6 vs endorphin speed 4 for example.
Wow! That is an incredible list of tested shoes. Well done for the Hobby Jogger Community!! Thanks you. I am loving my new Ghosts. 😄 Next I want to visit the NB Factory Store near me in Lawrence to see if I can find the NB1080V14
just bought some novablast 5s freakin love em, makes me wanna run every day. Grip has been great for me, destroyed my 11 mile run yesterday with light trail detours
Understand why you like them (I also have the NB5, great shoe!) but the grip still sucks when it’s wet (at least compared to Adidas continual or Pumagrip)
I have more than 200 miles on my Pumas DN3, as my daily trainers, in my tempo runs a super awesome shoe! I loved it, I want to get the novablast 5 just to mix things up.
67 daily trainers is no joke. Numbers don't lie! Thanks for putting in the work! Appreciated by hobby joggers everywhere 🙌 Love to see the DN3 in there! I agree that while its oriented as an uptempo shoe, it also performs well as a cushioned and smooth daily trainer. Btw seeing (Yaku...) after Nike Structure had me laughing 😂
I’ve got the Magmax with me on a week long holiday right now, but it’s all outdoor running and no speed work this week. Base building with a mix of easy and tempo. If I were gone for longer, then I probably would’ve brought the Velocity Nitro 3 with me. But with my calves on the tighter side right now as I increase my mileage, I valued the extra protection more than a speed workout (only do once a week usually).
Have so many shoes, my daily trainers are more like once a week trainers😂 Also Happy holidays! Merry Christmas! Love seeing the growth of this channel and community
I appreciate your definition of a daily trainer: shoes that you can use for any part of your training program. I think there really only needs to be two types of shoes: daily trainers and race-day shoes. I don't really buy into the idea that you need 4-5 pairs of shoes in your rotation. To me, tempo shoes, recovery shoes, long-run shoes, max cushion shoes are not necessary categories. These days I think many, many shoes can be used as daily trainers, meaning that they can cover all those catgories. Of course, everyone is free to buy as many pairs of shoes as they want and put them in as many categories as they want. But I don't understand the type of thinking that says your tempo-run shoes need to be at least an ounce lighter than your daily trainers.
Totally agree, it's mostly marketing. Not to mention, everyone's threshold pace or easy pace is different lol I bought a super cushioned shoe once when I was injured, it kind of worked, but next time I'll just take time off and cycle or row instead.
Last half of the year NB 860v14 has been my main daily trainer. It runs very well at a variety of paces. My only concern is durability. The outsole is wearing much faster than the Saucony shoes -Ride 16 and Triumph 20 - that took most of my volume before the 860 came along.
@@NickNelsonReiners My experience is with the Triumph 20 (same midsole s the T21) and the Ride 16. The current models are the very different Triumph 22 (completely new design and different midsole foam) and the Ride 17, which now has the same midsole foam as the Triumph 20/21. But given the caveat that I'm not comparing 860 with the current Triumph and Ride models, I'd say that the 860 has more structure and cushioning than the Ride 16 (though I still like that shoe too). The 860 is quite different from the Triumph 20 - more structured, dual foam with a plastic plate, and a wider platform that is more stable for heel striking. I think the Triumph is a little more lively to run in, and the 860 is more consistent in feel across a wide range of paces. The main similarity for me is in the use-case. I find both the Triumph 20 and the 860 to have a lot of versatility, from easy runs up to threshold pace. I prefer the 860 at both extremes - I think it's a better recovery run shoe, and I like it better for strides as well, because at faster paces it has a firmness from the dual foam and plastic plate that make it surprisingly responsive and snappy, considering it's sold as a stability shoe.
SL2 my shoe of the year. Was slipping in Malaysia this morning - I do wish the grip was better on a wet surface. In saying that, I would like to buy another pair.
@ Hi bud, was just visiting your beautiful Country for the week - I currently reside in Beijing. Really hard getting shoes here too. My best avenue has been running warehouse AU to my home country, then I get shoes sent here.
@@khungreen9773 Thanks for your reply. I just got one pair yesterday as the staff was willing to give me 20% off (using his own voucher) so I thought it was a pretty good deal. :D Feels different on my legs shifting from Saucony Tempus. Gotta spend more time with it. Enjoy running!
Purchased the SL2 after watching your vids, got them in Australia for about $100 which is probably my best running shoe coup ever. Lightweight, bouncy, soft but not too soft, feels great when I pick up the pace but just as good when I slow it down. These are great shoes before even factoring in the price. But then that, for me, is the real clincher. These have become an all time favourite of mine. Only thing I'd say is they might be unstable for some given how narrow they are, but no issue for me and I'm an average AF runner.
This is my favorite category. I've taken the Adizero SL2 and the Deviate Nitro 2 on vacation and both were great. I do think a solid outsole is important for that test because you never know what you're going to encounter. I would 💯 use the MiniMag for a one shoe as well. I would describe it exactly the way you described the Ghost Max 2.
I’ve found my shoes are somewhat temperature sensitive. I’ve been rocking some Gel Nimbus in the 15-30 degree runs. That extra cushion helps with everything being stiff plus I m really just stacking miles and not feeling speedwork in that weather. I hardly wore these during Spring-Summer
Tried the gel nimbus once at a shop - immediately realized that they're too soft😅 I've decided for the brooks ghost 16, there's enough comfort and they are speedy a little more than me and I really enjoy them a lot!
Thanks for your insights. How do you have time to do all these miles, run this shoe business, have a job and a family?? I like all of these but wish Puma was wider--I am a female with wider feet post-kids. I couldn't;t buy them after trying them on. *60s and 880s don't have enough cushion under forefoot for a forefoot runner. I am going on a trip the day after Christmas and am bringing the Novblast 5 and going it does not rain on my parade!:)
He lives in Mint Hill, ÑC which is in a bizarre time warp zone where one day is 48 of our normal hours - that's the only way I've figured out he can do it.
I will say though i ran in the puma deviate nitro 3 in the snow and the grip was not great compared to the deviate nitro 2 which had better lugs. Any shoe in the low teens to near zero bricks up
I have had a real issue finding a daily trainer partly due to a knee issue that is more of a nuisance than anything but I have narrow feet and max cushion shoes don't always work hence not dally trainers. I am currently using the Pacer V2 for most of my runs. I am trying the Adidas SL 2 but I do not like the high drop. The Pacer is probably the highest I can stand and it does not seem to bother me. I actually ripped out the insole on the SL2 and put in an old insert from a pair of Rebel 2 with some padded mole skin under the arch. I am going to try them again. I am thinking that the Balos could be a daily trainer. I have done longer runs and short runs and picked up the pace during runs and the shoe did ok. I changed out the insole for one less thick so I could take advantage of the midsole foam which is good stuff. The Rebel V3 was a good daily trainer and if the V4 were not so wide in the arch area it would be good for that as well though not as cushioned. I may try the 860 since your review of it seemed to hit all the areas I have to consider. This was a good review.
Novablast 4 would have been the perfect shoe if Asics made it with the more substantial outsole. I want to be able to run on roads and trails and not to think about sharp rocks cutting through the foam. Having said that, SL2 and VN3 are just great all-rounders. Happy holidays to all fellow hobby joggers. 🎄
Novablast 5 with a better tread would be the perfect shoe. The TR is coming hoping it’s basically that. I only fell once in the novablast it was totally dark and on a dirt incline I’d never ran. The leaked pics of the nb5 look like they removed the heel loop and did ugly color ways, but I have hope.
I agree. I bought the Ghost Max 2 and returned it. Ugly heavy clunky boot. Good cushion but slow, heavy, overheats, and clunky. Ghost Max 1 was lighter and faster but still an ugly boot.
@@yusuftv-f4rI actually like Ghost Max in terms of design. They look like casual shoes to me in comparison because I’m planning to use them as casual walking shoes. That is why I ordered one pair of first variation because it is on sale. I didn’t receive them yet.
Height: 1.88 m (6’2”) Weight: 94 kg (207 lbs) Pace: 5-6 min/km (8:03-9:39 min/mile) PB 5 km: 25 minutes PB 10 km: 53 minutes I used the Nike Vomero 16, and now I have the Asics Novablast 4. What should I buy to complement the Novablast 4? I’m looking for something suitable for daily training but also for races. Maybe the Adidas SL2, or do you recommend something else?
I currently am deciding whether to buy hoka mach 6 or adidas sl 2 as I need a daily trailer that can be used for training for 800m and 1600m and also can be used in those races. Which one do you think I should get.
unpopular view, max stack is dead its about sub marathon stacks with energy return. physios/coach's are finding more runners with issues since max stack has become a regular trainer
@supwell I initially thought of buying adidas supernova ended up buying sketchers, surprised by the softness of cushion and feel less awkward on the foot. Super comfy.
It depends what you use the speed 2’s for ? IMO the Boston 12’s are better as they are more versatile……but if you only use the Speed 2’s for speed then they win.
My SL2’s cushion are dead after 100km. Was really disappointed since I was enjoying the bounce and nimbleness of a daily trainer. I’m a heavy runner, 100kg+ so maybe my weight is a big factor on the cushion, so I won’t recommend this to heavy runners.
tried on those sl2's in the shop twice now both times I took them off without even bothering jogging over to the wall. I don't know what you guys are getting so worked up about, "bendy" and "road feel" are not positives in my book.
Hehe came here to say something similar, Canada also using celcius. It just seems logical to me that 0c is the freezing point. Strangely we still using Feets and Farenheits in some situations like pool temperature and size. I think feets make sense because they are basically the lenght of my foot so its easier to estimate
Yeah I knew his joke was going to get some comments. Let’s just say it bricks up when it’s F’N cold. F’N cold is a legit scientific measurement term that is universally recognized.
Surprised to see the Deviate on this list. Here's why: It's in the speed trainer category. You had a certain attitude about this category a couple months ago, preferring to train in top-end race shoes for many workouts. I am looking forward to a best of in that category. I wonder about Brooks plated trainer compared to Magic Speed, this Puma, etc.
That kinda contributed to his point about people having different categories despite using the same names. Just like how, as far as I'm concerned, the 1080 can't be in a daily trainer category because it's way too squishy.
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Maybe the real best daily trainer is the friend we made along the way…
I felt that
@@Lukas-md8fpI didn’t make any new friends this year… so I donno whether to pick Adidas or Asics 😂😂😂
@ both will become your best friend 😁
@@Lukas-md8fp yeah, they both have names that are easy to remember
LMAO
Thanks! As a physician, I find your knowledge of running physiology incredibly in-depth, professional and on-point
Thank you! 🙌🏽🫡 much appreciated
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Merry Xmas my dude! What a great year of running. Your channel was a bliss while I was injured, funny and informative. Keep up the amazing work Yo!
Thank you man! I appreciate the kind words and glad I could be along for the journey 🙌🏽💪🏽 hope the injury is healed up too
I've been blown away by my Mach 6. Does everything and fast. Just gets out of the way and has been fine for me even going 30km long runs. I wanna rotate my shoes but then I wanna put the Mach 6 on for everything from easy to hard
How has the durability been? I've been seriously considering the Mach 6, but everywhere I read people complain about short durability and lifetime, and that's a very general sentiment I read online about Hoka shoes, so I'm on the edge.
I've done over 600km on the NB 860v14s . Chose these for stability in a running shop after gait analysis. Used for all runs as trained for my first half marathon and the race itself. Been trust worthy and still doing the business as they approach 700km. Still have life for easy runs for sure. Will probably go for the Adizero SL2 next
Because of you I have 3 out of 5 shoes on the list. I love you and your reviews 😁 merry Christmas
I bought the SL2 based on your reviews, and I have to say I LOVE how lightweight and bouncy it is, however, an advice to my fellow heavy hobby joggers is that the shoe is a bit unstable and make my knees hurt
Really loving my novablast 5s. Had to put the rest of my rotation on hold because I keep wanting to bring out the novablasts
860v14 is a wonder and highly recommended. I use it for fast and short distance tempo runs…
Perfect mix of stability and cushion…
Hi, Yowana. I just wanted to say I'm a beginner runner who picked up the habit 2 weeks ago. I find your your videos incredibly helpful and informative. You've earned another subscriber. Keep up the great work. Your videos are very motivational and have inspired me to want to be consistent with daily mileage and slow cardio progression even though it's only 5 K per day. I have literally picked up almost every shoe you talk about in all your videos. About 10 shoes in total. Make that 11 with the Puma Deviate Nitro 3 when I get a chance to get it. I've ran so much in the last 2 weeks, I now have shin splints and waiting to recover. I am proud of the work you have put into being a professional running enthusiast. Excellent work.
Haha I was waiting for the ‘I now have shin splints’ line and there it was 😂 Jokes aside, I’ve been there and with time and patience you will find a way to ramp up distance without getting injured. Enjoy the journey!
@frits8986 Thanks.
dude you have 11 pairs? and i thought i was weird with 3-4 pairs :P
@@tadejdanev5030 definitely too many for a beginner. But if money ain't an issue I'm guessing he's finding a brand that fits him.
For my feet it's new balance 1080, or puma nitros for daily. Asics is okay. My feet no likey saucony or Adidas I dno why... Haven't tried any running nike or brooks shoes
@tadejdanev5030 Haha. I'm trying them all out. The ones i don't like, I'll return. I'll post a review here of my findings.
I bought the sl2 because of you. Highly recommended!
It was good but the ankle collar dug into my ankles
SL2 are so good. Very happy to get them on sale. Such a versatile trainer
@@Scott25368i had the same issue unfortunately
SL2 GANG
I have a blast in my NB4s and i've been loving them more since i got the SL2 and didn't really fell in love with them after my feet felt really sore, can't wait to get the NB5s
As a heavier runner (225 pounds) here's my Top 5 of 2024:
1. New Balance Fuel Cell SC Trainer V3
2. Saucony Tempus V1 or V2
3. Altra Torin V7
4. Nike Infinity RN4
5. New Balance Fuel Cell Rebel V4
Been usind DN3 as a daily trsiner. its great at easy paces, comfy and great grip. Ive run faster sessions it and its ok, but love it for easy cruising. The plate is pretty flexible and has a nice comfy ride. I totally agree with ur views on plates btw. There are lots of unplated shoes stiffer than plated ones. Hoka mach 6 vs endorphin speed 4 for example.
Wow! That is an incredible list of tested shoes. Well done for the Hobby Jogger Community!!
Thanks you. I am loving my new Ghosts. 😄 Next I want to visit the NB Factory Store near me in Lawrence to see if I can find the NB1080V14
just bought some novablast 5s
freakin love em, makes me wanna run every day. Grip has been great for me, destroyed my 11 mile run yesterday with light trail detours
Understand why you like them (I also have the NB5, great shoe!) but the grip still sucks when it’s wet (at least compared to Adidas continual or Pumagrip)
16:59 on first listen I thought you said “ah man this foam got me bricked up” lmaoo
Happy holidays my G
Lmao bro that's wild 😂 enjoy the holidays
I have more than 200 miles on my Pumas DN3, as my daily trainers, in my tempo runs a super awesome shoe! I loved it, I want to get the novablast 5 just to mix things up.
67 daily trainers is no joke. Numbers don't lie! Thanks for putting in the work! Appreciated by hobby joggers everywhere 🙌
Love to see the DN3 in there! I agree that while its oriented as an uptempo shoe, it also performs well as a cushioned and smooth daily trainer.
Btw seeing (Yaku...) after Nike Structure had me laughing 😂
Hahaha glad you saw that Easter egg and thank you for all of the support this year! 🙌🏽
I’ve got the Magmax with me on a week long holiday right now, but it’s all outdoor running and no speed work this week. Base building with a mix of easy and tempo. If I were gone for longer, then I probably would’ve brought the Velocity Nitro 3 with me. But with my calves on the tighter side right now as I increase my mileage, I valued the extra protection more than a speed workout (only do once a week usually).
I also used the Puma DN3 as my daily training shoe.
Got my Mizuno Neo Zens coming in hot, should arrive before the new year! Stoked to add to my Novablast 4 in my daily arsenal
The goose jacket, supwell making bank badaboom
Have so many shoes, my daily trainers are more like once a week trainers😂
Also Happy holidays! Merry Christmas! Love seeing the growth of this channel and community
Hahaha your comment made me legit laugh out loud 😂 and thank you Jeremy - I appreciate all the support since 2023! Hope you have a great Christmas
Great list! Merry Christmas!
Thank you Bob merry christmas! 🙌🏽
LOVE YOUR CHANNEL! I’m a newbie just getting into running coming off ACL surgery. Just bought the Puma Velocity Nitro 3 based on your review!
thank you so much! hope you get some great miles in it
Always Like your Studio set up 😂 nice list …. greets
I appreciate your definition of a daily trainer: shoes that you can use for any part of your training program. I think there really only needs to be two types of shoes: daily trainers and race-day shoes. I don't really buy into the idea that you need 4-5 pairs of shoes in your rotation. To me, tempo shoes, recovery shoes, long-run shoes, max cushion shoes are not necessary categories. These days I think many, many shoes can be used as daily trainers, meaning that they can cover all those catgories. Of course, everyone is free to buy as many pairs of shoes as they want and put them in as many categories as they want. But I don't understand the type of thinking that says your tempo-run shoes need to be at least an ounce lighter than your daily trainers.
Totally agree, it's mostly marketing. Not to mention, everyone's threshold pace or easy pace is different lol I bought a super cushioned shoe once when I was injured, it kind of worked, but next time I'll just take time off and cycle or row instead.
Last half of the year NB 860v14 has been my main daily trainer. It runs very well at a variety of paces. My only concern is durability. The outsole is wearing much faster than the Saucony shoes -Ride 16 and Triumph 20 - that took most of my volume before the 860 came along.
How is the 860 compared to the triumph and ride?
@@NickNelsonReiners My experience is with the Triumph 20 (same midsole s the T21) and the Ride 16. The current models are the very different Triumph 22 (completely new design and different midsole foam) and the Ride 17, which now has the same midsole foam as the Triumph 20/21. But given the caveat that I'm not comparing 860 with the current Triumph and Ride models, I'd say that the 860 has more structure and cushioning than the Ride 16 (though I still like that shoe too). The 860 is quite different from the Triumph 20 - more structured, dual foam with a plastic plate, and a wider platform that is more stable for heel striking. I think the Triumph is a little more lively to run in, and the 860 is more consistent in feel across a wide range of paces. The main similarity for me is in the use-case. I find both the Triumph 20 and the 860 to have a lot of versatility, from easy runs up to threshold pace. I prefer the 860 at both extremes - I think it's a better recovery run shoe, and I like it better for strides as well, because at faster paces it has a firmness from the dual foam and plastic plate that make it surprisingly responsive and snappy, considering it's sold as a stability shoe.
Best video to decide my training shoe for 2025
SL2 my shoe of the year.
Was slipping in Malaysia this morning - I do wish the grip was better on a wet surface.
In saying that, I would like to buy another pair.
Hey man, same Malaysian here. Can I know where did you get it and what’s the price? I’m seeing RM499 in adidas store. Enjoy your run!
@ Hi bud, was just visiting your beautiful Country for the week - I currently reside in Beijing.
Really hard getting shoes here too. My best avenue has been running warehouse AU to my home country, then I get shoes sent here.
@@khungreen9773 Thanks for your reply. I just got one pair yesterday as the staff was willing to give me 20% off (using his own voucher) so I thought it was a pretty good deal. :D
Feels different on my legs shifting from Saucony Tempus. Gotta spend more time with it. Enjoy running!
Purchased the SL2 after watching your vids, got them in Australia for about $100 which is probably my best running shoe coup ever. Lightweight, bouncy, soft but not too soft, feels great when I pick up the pace but just as good when I slow it down.
These are great shoes before even factoring in the price. But then that, for me, is the real clincher. These have become an all time favourite of mine.
Only thing I'd say is they might be unstable for some given how narrow they are, but no issue for me and I'm an average AF runner.
This is my favorite category. I've taken the Adizero SL2 and the Deviate Nitro 2 on vacation and both were great. I do think a solid outsole is important for that test because you never know what you're going to encounter.
I would 💯 use the MiniMag for a one shoe as well. I would describe it exactly the way you described the Ghost Max 2.
I need to get some more miles in that puma - such a solid shoe
@@supwellMiniMag gives me serious More v3 vibes but with a more resilient foam. I'll be getting it up to 100 miles in about a month.
This was amazing couldn’t agree more still think the under armor infinite pro breeze is the best daily trainer on the market
i am in love with SL2 i keep 4.9 min Pace
I wish you and your family a vwey Merry Christmas
thank you doc! i've appreciated all of the thoughtful and wise words throughout the year. i hope you had a wonderful christmas
I’ve found my shoes are somewhat temperature sensitive. I’ve been rocking some Gel Nimbus in the 15-30 degree runs. That extra cushion helps with everything being stiff plus I m really just stacking miles and not feeling speedwork in that weather. I hardly wore these during Spring-Summer
The neo zens are really nice! Hope they make the list next year😅
Tried the gel nimbus once at a shop - immediately realized that they're too soft😅
I've decided for the brooks ghost 16, there's enough comfort and they are speedy a little more than me and I really enjoy them a lot!
Thanks for your insights. How do you have time to do all these miles, run this shoe business, have a job and a family?? I like all of these but wish Puma was wider--I am a female with wider feet post-kids. I couldn't;t buy them after trying them on. *60s and 880s don't have enough cushion under forefoot for a forefoot runner. I am going on a trip the day after Christmas and am bringing the Novblast 5 and going it does not rain on my parade!:)
He lives in Mint Hill, ÑC which is in a bizarre time warp zone where one day is 48 of our normal hours - that's the only way I've figured out he can do it.
I just bought the Novablast 5 and a cheap pair of the SL1 on your recommendation
Cheaper puma mag max is the magnify nitro 😅
Love Ghost Max 2
I will say though i ran in the puma deviate nitro 3 in the snow and the grip was not great compared to the deviate nitro 2 which had better lugs. Any shoe in the low teens to near zero bricks up
Of the 5, which one are you walking in (on holiday)? Guessing the NB 860?
Friend, the novablast 5 responds well to training at a pace of 3 minutes/km? I'm between nb5 and sl2
Was set on getting either the 860 or the GM2 for the last week and now Puma has entered the chat smh
I have had a real issue finding a daily trainer partly due to a knee issue that is more of a nuisance than anything but I have narrow feet and max cushion shoes don't always work hence not dally trainers. I am currently using the Pacer V2 for most of my runs. I am trying the Adidas SL 2 but I do not like the high drop. The Pacer is probably the highest I can stand and it does not seem to bother me. I actually ripped out the insole on the SL2 and put in an old insert from a pair of Rebel 2 with some padded mole skin under the arch. I am going to try them again. I am thinking that the Balos could be a daily trainer. I have done longer runs and short runs and picked up the pace during runs and the shoe did ok. I changed out the insole for one less thick so I could take advantage of the midsole foam which is good stuff. The Rebel V3 was a good daily trainer and if the V4 were not so wide in the arch area it would be good for that as well though not as cushioned. I may try the 860 since your review of it seemed to hit all the areas I have to consider. This was a good review.
EVA based foams really firm up I the cold. Other midsole compounds seem to work better in the cold for me….
Nova blast 5 are so good
Novablast 4 would have been the perfect shoe if Asics made it with the more substantial outsole. I want to be able to run on roads and trails and not to think about sharp rocks cutting through the foam. Having said that, SL2 and VN3 are just great all-rounders.
Happy holidays to all fellow hobby joggers. 🎄
you could check the novablast 4 tr which has a different outsole , a bit more material. Might interest you.
@@barrazaillustration9383 Thanks, it still got too much exposed foam.
So much depends on your feet. Wide? Narrow? Foot issues? Under over pronation.
Hai dimenticato di mettere nelle prime 5 le PROPEL V5 NEW BALANCE 😅 ...sbaglio?
What about the Evo SL?
Novablast 5 with a better tread would be the perfect shoe. The TR is coming hoping it’s basically that. I only fell once in the novablast it was totally dark and on a dirt incline I’d never ran. The leaked pics of the nb5 look like they removed the heel loop and did ugly color ways, but I have hope.
Why is the Superblast 2 not a daily trainer, or did it not make your top 5?
The ghost max just looks like such a basketball shoe to me, I could never
I agree. I bought the Ghost Max 2 and returned it. Ugly heavy clunky boot. Good cushion but slow, heavy, overheats, and clunky. Ghost Max 1 was lighter and faster but still an ugly boot.
@@yusuftv-f4rI actually like Ghost Max in terms of design. They look like casual shoes to me in comparison because I’m planning to use them as casual walking shoes. That is why I ordered one pair of first variation because it is on sale. I didn’t receive them yet.
No 1080v13 ?
Novablast and Puma deviate nitro make the top 5 every year. 👏👏👏
Bruh this one of your shortest ones... Recovery vlog for sure.
Height: 1.88 m (6’2”)
Weight: 94 kg (207 lbs)
Pace: 5-6 min/km (8:03-9:39 min/mile)
PB 5 km: 25 minutes
PB 10 km: 53 minutes
I used the Nike Vomero 16, and now I have the Asics Novablast 4. What should I buy to complement the Novablast 4? I’m looking for something suitable for daily training but also for races. Maybe the Adidas SL2, or do you recommend something else?
Hoka mach x2 or adidas sl2
I currently am deciding whether to buy hoka mach 6 or adidas sl 2 as I need a daily trailer that can be used for training for 800m and 1600m and also can be used in those races. Which one do you think I should get.
Love your videos! Thanks for what you do! Have you tried the Altra carbon Vanish 2 ?
Not yet! Coming soon
@ cool looking forward to it! Just got the endorphin pro 4s thanks your vids. But I’m very curious about the altras! Take care !
I do the same thing! Checking the adidas app everyday in hopes of lucking out on their random $64 Boston 12 sale days to stockpile.
unpopular view, max stack is dead its about sub marathon stacks with energy return. physios/coach's are finding more runners with issues since max stack has become a regular trainer
Try the new Kiprun KD900x v2
Only available in Asia right now
I've bought it and it is super bouncy, soft with non aggresive Carbon Plate.
Hope to see Peg Plus in this
I vote for NB Rebel V4 and On Cloudmonster Hyper be added to the list
Yea the sl2 in this category is the best for me but so is the Hyperion 2
Your thoughts on sketchers go run ride 11?
One of the few that I haven't tried! A few people have told me they enjoy it though
@supwell I initially thought of buying adidas supernova ended up buying sketchers, surprised by the softness of cushion and feel less awkward on the foot. Super comfy.
Are the slugs still out or are they seasonal?+
I think the chickens ate them all 😢 charli said she saw 1 last week though
Yes, NB860 is not too soft but NB1080 is too soft.
Let’s do this dam thing let’s go
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Are the Boston 12 similar to the endorphin speed 2? I have the speed 2 not sure if it makes sense getting the Boston
It depends what you use the speed 2’s for ?
IMO the Boston 12’s are better as they are more versatile……but if you only use the Speed 2’s for speed then they win.
@nkululekomabaso4273 i use them for speed training and series
No ASICS GT2000 13?
I am not sure if I heard that correctly...and did you hesitate?
I have dn2 and novablast 3
My SL2’s cushion are dead after 100km. Was really disappointed since I was enjoying the bounce and nimbleness of a daily trainer.
I’m a heavy runner, 100kg+ so maybe my weight is a big factor on the cushion, so I won’t recommend this to heavy runners.
@@erestain17 you should go for the Saucony ride 18 or Adidas ultraboost 5, that beaded TPU midsole lasts easily for 600 miles. I'm Heavy runner also
@@Lukas-md8fp My Saucony Triumph 20’s endorse this message.
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puma nitro3 ?
Magmax got the BBL
Now I wanna see all 67 ranked HAHA (jk nobody has time for that)
You miss the Boston 12 that should be top 3
Well I see why the supwell app price went up…
tried on those sl2's in the shop twice now both times I took them off without even bothering jogging over to the wall. I don't know what you guys are getting so worked up about, "bendy" and "road feel" are not positives in my book.
@17:46 " Negative 2 communist"...Celcius was Swedish. I didn't know Sweden was a a communist country !!!! And Farenheit was Polish by the way......
Hehe came here to say something similar, Canada also using celcius. It just seems logical to me that 0c is the freezing point. Strangely we still using Feets and Farenheits in some situations like pool temperature and size. I think feets make sense because they are basically the lenght of my foot so its easier to estimate
Sweden is a socialist country from the perspective of right wing thinkers.
@@jean-philWeight conversion is also common in practice from ounces and pounds to grams and kilograms.
Yeah I knew his joke was going to get some comments. Let’s just say it bricks up when it’s F’N cold. F’N cold is a legit scientific measurement term that is universally recognized.
@@TomCantu-q2x 🤣
Surprised to see the Deviate on this list. Here's why:
It's in the speed trainer category.
You had a certain attitude about this category a couple months ago, preferring to train in top-end race shoes for many workouts.
I am looking forward to a best of in that category. I wonder about Brooks plated trainer compared to Magic Speed, this Puma, etc.
That kinda contributed to his point about people having different categories despite using the same names. Just like how, as far as I'm concerned, the 1080 can't be in a daily trainer category because it's way too squishy.
Damn you are looking fresh to death
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My man said "-2 communist" 😂 I love it. 🇺🇲
I'm truly convinced all daily trainers suck 🤣.