these happen far too frequently for him to make a video on something like this it seems. he should make a video on the wider problems with Boeing, they say this engine was just maintenance prior to departure, and then it has an issue. Unbelievable
I’m confused. Why did they descend them to 3000 then have them climb to 5000? Especially as an emergency aircraft? I’m not a pilot, clearly. Just love aviation. 😊✈️
Because that plane was turning and passing through Dallas Love Field final approach path, DAL go around is 2000 to 3000 ft, so that's why ATC had them climbed to 5000
Are the gear pins needed to keep the gear in place because normally hydraulic pressure keeps them locked? Are they something on the plane, or does someone need to run to the hangar and get them?
The the lock over link will lock the landing gear in place. The hydraulics just add an extra layer of stability to the landing gear. The gear pins are installed because if a hard bump or too hard a turn can actually unlock the lock over link and cause a gear collapse. The hydraulics also actuate the steering for the nosewheel, so most likely they would have to be towed in despite him saying they would taxi in.
@@buckhorncortez if you watch videos on this channel, you see equal numbers of "aircraft: mayday mayday mayday atc: here are some vectors" where atc is on the ball vs where atc is entirely oblivious that there's anything going on.
I think most would have gone with a PAN-PAN-PAN on that one. I've never heard a MAYDAY and then someone so chilled afterwards. But aware its the US and the FAA guidelines are hardly clear.
@@t288msd Unless you are all of a lower cognitive capacity....and that is still under investigation....it has and will simplify the urgent declaration for aviators everywhere. Discuss your obsession with Dr. Farnsworth. He works wonders.
@@RLTtizME Here in the US declaring an "Emergency" can be for something as simple as a pack failure or as complex as an multiple hydraulic failure. There is no distinction made between urgent and non-urgent. Most US pilots and FAA controllers do scoff at the europeanization of "Their Industry". Hence the misuse of Mayday calls. But gotta give yanks credit for trying. You can't always please pedant europeans.
@@gregorythompson5826 There really doesn't need to be an in-between. Dithering between pan or mayday is just that. Read the comments on these videos. Generally there is disagreement as to what declaration was or should have been used. The "in-between" is fully clarified when they are asked by ATC to state the nature of their emergency. Inexplicably ....this is an emotional issue with most EuroBrits.
@@arashkamangir331 Has nothing to do with being a Boeing fan or not. Airbus has just as many issues with their aircraft as Boeing does, they just aren't in the US so they don't get the bad press like Boeing does. Just go back and look at the A400 test program that killed an entire flight crew because of Airbus' thoughts that the pilots shouldn't be involved in a decision-making process, then get back to me.
I think it’s actually a very valuable aid in situational awareness, because for example if for some reason the two aircraft get too close to each other, you’ll be ready to react.
Because the aircraft all have traffic collision avoidance systems (TCAS) and the controllers want to make sure the pilots know the status of other aircraft appearing on the TCAS. It's the nice thing to do for pilots dealing with an emergency - take one more concern away so they can concentrate on flying the aircraft. Quit looking for problems with the way emergencies are handled - you're not flying the plane or providing air traffic control. When you graduate to either of those - then you can show us how it "should be done."
Best US pilot radio comms yet. Nice one!
Fantastic job by all ATC despite having to switch to several ATCs. All important info was passed on.
Ooh, I wanna hear @blancolirio's take on this. Very well handled by all.
these happen far too frequently for him to make a video on something like this it seems. he should make a video on the wider problems with Boeing, they say this engine was just maintenance prior to departure, and then it has an issue. Unbelievable
5:10 is he... is he asking for a PIREP???
That was my thought
I’m confused. Why did they descend them to 3000 then have them climb to 5000? Especially as an emergency aircraft? I’m not a pilot, clearly. Just love aviation. 😊✈️
Because that plane was turning and passing through Dallas Love Field final approach path, DAL go around is 2000 to 3000 ft, so that's why ATC had them climbed to 5000
Nice work by all
Landing gear pins?
Are the gear pins needed to keep the gear in place because normally hydraulic pressure keeps them locked?
Are they something on the plane, or does someone need to run to the hangar and get them?
The the lock over link will lock the landing gear in place. The hydraulics just add an extra layer of stability to the landing gear. The gear pins are installed because if a hard bump or too hard a turn can actually unlock the lock over link and cause a gear collapse. The hydraulics also actuate the steering for the nosewheel, so most likely they would have to be towed in despite him saying they would taxi in.
True, the reaction link has 2 springs that will "break" gear over center
No danger of gear collapse. No hyd pressure, no steering at NLG
This flight crew is ACES. Bravo Zulu!
Can I share some of the communications with others? Just the voice.
What is the question about being above the clouds all about?
probably to have accurate information about top of cloud layer for other traffic.
Pirep
Nice!
4:32 "so maintenance staff will get the pins installed" I guess..
If I had a dollar for every controller who has made an emergency aircraft repeat themselves, I'd be rich!
What is going on with Boeing?
That's what you get for having Jiffy Lube do your hydraulic fluid changes. Someone forgot to torque down a drain bolt!
yep... or make sure all bolts were secured in place during assembly 🤦♂
Hey ATC, how about a "Roger MAYDAY".
Why? Internet comment section style points...?
Bet ur an expert huh? Always nit-picking
@@buckhorncortez if you watch videos on this channel, you see equal numbers of "aircraft: mayday mayday mayday atc: here are some vectors" where atc is on the ball vs where atc is entirely oblivious that there's anything going on.
Ok
It’s not even a mayday situation either.
Textbook job by the pilots
Well, orchestrated issue.
Anoher inicdent involving Boing? This can't be!
In before the "so glad they used mayday" comments.
They all have their end of week therapy sessions. Expect a low turnout.
Ok
While technically not a MAYDAY
@@malahammer LOL. These discussions are ridiculous.
@@malahammer- 100% correct.
Smooth as a baby's butt. I think the guy on the radios was a Line Check Airman.
“Copy all”
2 seconds later…
“What was that last part?”
So you didn’t copy all!!!
American 2679 day fuel in mols
I think most would have gone with a PAN-PAN-PAN on that one. I've never heard a MAYDAY and then someone so chilled afterwards. But aware its the US and the FAA guidelines are hardly clear.
That's why we have switched to EMERGENCY...so you don't have have these bouts of consternation compelling you to comment. Take the afternoon off.
@@RLTtizME What you really mean is simplifying it for Americans :)
@@t288msd Unless you are all of a lower cognitive capacity....and that is still under investigation....it has and will simplify the urgent declaration for aviators everywhere. Discuss your obsession with Dr. Farnsworth. He works wonders.
@@RLTtizME Here in the US declaring an "Emergency" can be for something as simple as a pack failure or as complex as an multiple hydraulic failure. There is no distinction made between urgent and non-urgent. Most US pilots and FAA controllers do scoff at the europeanization of "Their Industry". Hence the misuse of Mayday calls. But gotta give yanks credit for trying. You can't always please pedant europeans.
@@gregorythompson5826 There really doesn't need to be an in-between. Dithering between pan or mayday is just that. Read the comments on these videos. Generally there is disagreement as to what declaration was or should have been used. The "in-between" is fully clarified when they are asked by ATC to state the nature of their emergency. Inexplicably ....this is an emotional issue with most EuroBrits.
and the boeing hits just keep on coming
21.2 million flights a year. I guess you missed all the Airbus and Embraer video's? Pay attention.
@@malahammer I have been. PR guys like you for Boeing are not helping
@@arashkamangir331 Has nothing to do with being a Boeing fan or not. Airbus has just as many issues with their aircraft as Boeing does, they just aren't in the US so they don't get the bad press like Boeing does. Just go back and look at the A400 test program that killed an entire flight crew because of Airbus' thoughts that the pilots shouldn't be involved in a decision-making process, then get back to me.
What about the second recall of A380’s for wing cracks where the patches are being patched.
Ah here come all the Boeing fanboys and those paid by them. You think they’ll kill the second whistleblower too?
I've vever understood why US ATC gives traffic info for descending aircraft they are perfectly separated from. Its waste of airtime
I think it’s actually a very valuable aid in situational awareness, because for example if for some reason the two aircraft get too close to each other, you’ll be ready to react.
@@watty9297 I places like Heathrow the ATC would spend their entire time talking about other traffic!
It's so that everyone can keep pretending that "see and avoid" works.
Because the aircraft all have traffic collision avoidance systems (TCAS) and the controllers want to make sure the pilots know the status of other aircraft appearing on the TCAS. It's the nice thing to do for pilots dealing with an emergency - take one more concern away so they can concentrate on flying the aircraft. Quit looking for problems with the way emergencies are handled - you're not flying the plane or providing air traffic control. When you graduate to either of those - then you can show us how it "should be done."
Ok
The previous production sloppiness at Boeing is just going to get worse as these aircraft age.
737 is like a death sentence
Why board that plane
Nothing wrong with the 737-800. The ones with the issues lately are the 737 Max 8. Completely different airframe.
A "death sentence" with no deaths huh?