Container - Shut Up & Sit Down Review
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- Опубликовано: 12 июл 2018
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In the Spirit of Container. You paid $90 for your container and I’ll buy it from you for $40.
^this!
Looked to the comments to see if there was anything good... stopped after spotting this one because nothing else is going to be as good.
You'll have to ship it yourself though.
Will eBay subsidize it?
More like "I'll pay a 3d printing company 50 dollars"
There are "Homebrew" files for the boards, cards and pieces on board game geek.
This looks like the perfect use of 3D printers.
I can only *try* to imagine the frustration you must have felt when it was actually re-released after five long years, years you were waiting to finally review and quite possibly even recommend it, just for the price to be raised ridiculously high in a flat out ironic play on the games theme. I feel you, Quins :(
"A cry for help from sentient clip art" - Pure poetry. I laughed until I chuckled
"If you bet your bum and then loose your bum on a terrible business decision, not only is nobody coming to give you a new bum, your friends will then own your bum."
Quality, vintage SU&SD material right there!
Dammit they've priced it too high. Who's going to sail into their ports to pick up this game now?
Seven minutes in I was thinking "this looks like a nice game for 30€"
Two years later I have finally found a sealed Container copy from 2007. Got it for $35 and couldn't be happier!
Matt sounded so genuine when he was talking about the power strip
I mean I think they really were excited about it. I was excited when I bought a new Iphone charger that has nylon coating and better support for the cord, and it's super long.
I'm surprised that with the criticism of the price and the components that there was no mention of the publishers deciding to reduce the number of containers down from the original version.
Not sure why, but using a motherboard as a clipboard made me guffaw hard enough to cause food to fly from my mouth
Thomas Blackwell that combined with the upside down glasses was pure brilliance.
Good to see Matt's hard work on that spaceship backdrop is still paying off
Matt likes big boats. He cannot lie.
You other rudders can't deny
Cuz when a ship pulls in
With some itty-bitty crates
And some cold cash in your face
You have fun
just add 30 dolars and buy Twilight Imperium 4th Edition :P
Don't even need to go that high! On Amazon for $110 right now and I regularly see it dip below $100.
The original version has resin ships as well, but with a matte, almost dusty surface, which makes them seem weathered. The containers themselves are wooden blocks. The art direction for the original version is pretty solid.
I was going to also say no wooden boats were in this game. Perhaps, you are speaking of Manila, another of Delonge's (rip) designs.
Oh my goodness - I did not see that price coming! With that sort of pricing, the art/components are inexcusable. There are such beautiful games at this price range that this is impossible to justify. How can the stunning Lisboa, with its pricy components, be much cheaper than this game? Not to mention Scythe, or Rising Sun, which are both far cheaper despite detailed miniatures. I am sure the game is fantastic, but I am not sure how good it'd have to be to justify that sort of price tag. After all, the poor artwork with the dry theme pretty much guarantees that it'll be near-impossible to get to the table... which does not bode well for making the investment worthwhile.
that price-tag is round the bend insane. It has the pricetag of an overblown complex kickstarter game, but without the rule complexity or miniatures... and when its a game aimed at people interested in getting good deals... ironic.
@@kidkunjer And when the company didn't have to develop & playtest the game.
Brilliant. Incredible how the shirts and ties make you look so "official" and make your opinions seem like the last word on this game. It's like magic. I'll try this on my own channel if I learn to talk again. A stroke a few years ago, you know.
I find playing with the large, heavy ships and containers strangely satisfying...
7:02 that moment when Matt undoes his shirt and tie and reveals the EXACT T-SHIRT you're wearing now oh God what board game review sorcery is this?!
Out of my regular playing group of 5, I think Container might be one of the only games we all universally agree is amazing. It is overpriced and it does have bad components but damn, the emergent gameplay is just so good. Definitely one of my favourite games of all time.
Emergent gameplay can be one of the best things to happen when a game is designed correctly.
Anticipating a renewed surge of popularity for this one.
Why?
Anyone coming to this now: there are rumblings of a new (non-jumbo) reprint coming.
14:20 : Actually, the old version of Container had resin or ceramic or something boats too. But I do agree this version is way too expensive for what it is.
Also, one mini-bag for each container... 85 mini-bags! lol...
"It's like a cry for help, from sentient clipart" absolutely slayed me 🤣
Funny enough when you gave the elevator pitch I excitedly said "God this game looks amazing" lol. Then the scenario you gave immediately after reaffirmed my excitement. This economy looks amazing
I had the older version and, had I realized how much I would miss it, I wouldn't have given it up. At least the person who has my old copy has it available for play at our local game store. Even they point out to new players to keep an eye on the economy.
I really want it to be Quinns walking past the window at 17:11
This game could look dope with the artwork in the style of BRASS Birmingham.
Oh god if only!
I bought a really nice technical pencil today! And yesterday was a crazy day, I got two notepads. Maybe Container is a game for me.
I'm year 1 of my own personal 5 year journey waiting for a Container reprint. Maybe the next one won't cost $100
I have a 9’ pool table with blue felt that would work perfect as an ocean for this game.
This game looks like a print and play of the real game... Which makes me think I could PnP it and get the same experience.
Love the Heavy Cardboard shirt, Matt! Great video for a great game as well. :)
I'm glad you talked about the artwork for this game because I was looking at it and thinking how ugly it was, that someone just got random assets and used Photoshop to put them together. For a $90 game that's just unacceptable! When I could buy a heavy miniature game for the same price and have nice pieces to look at, I'd chose that any day. Though I would like to play this game once, maybe I can convince my local board game store to get a demo copy.
Also I love how "Boring" you guys are :)
Lytane Variety Show. So you prefer a pretty game to a good game?
Ugh, I know! There's so many games that are fun to play, with well thought out, deep mechanics that lead to incredible play sessions... but their art isn't the Mona Lisa of board gaming! Why can't someone make a boardgame that's just a ball of chrome for gamers like you and me, Lytane, those of us who don't care about fun but rather how pretty a thing is? Woe is us, woe is us!
Sarcasm and mockery aside, this has always been one of my big gripes about SUASD; they always give a game shit for having """bad art""". Heck, they did it in their last review too. Apparently a game about trading and acquiring spices has bad art because its cards have pictures of... growing and buying spices. Wut. As long as it's clear what everything is, it shouldn't matter how much some artist pretties it up. These are *games*, not art museum pieces.
And I'm not saying a game can't be visually attractive. I'm just saying I don't think a game deserves to get slammed for using dull, muted tones, it deserves to get slammed for having dull, boring gameplay.
Exactly. And there are allowances for price. If the same game was $50 it would hardly be worth a mention, but when you hit a certain price-point you simply have to compare all aspects, including art and components. It absolutely is part of the discussion when the publisher decides to make big chunky plastic bits that cost a lot and then skimp pretty hard on the look of the rest of the game!
I suppose the reason I was so harsh and, well... rude, to be frank, is because to me the game looks fine. The only thing shown in the review that looked awful were the cards showing how much each player's earning for crates of different colors; those look like garbage. But Matt brought up the player board saying how it looks awful, that the theme is lacking, and I just was really confounded. It's a game about manufacturing goods, storing the shipping containers in warehouses, and then shipping them. The player board shows a dockyard, with docks, those biiig loading cranes, warehouses, and further back, the factories. That seems entirely on-theme, and then to see a comment saying how it looks outright ugly... well, I got a little nasty, I'll admit, and probably let my feelings for all the other times that SUASD have (from my perspective) unfairly knocked a game for its art.
The points about the price point are well made and I do agree overall. The money being flipped on each side, and overall it could be of better quality since as has been mentioned the big bulk of that newly doubled price probably is coming from those big beefy miniatures, so getting more/better artists probably would have been ideal. But even so, to me the game doesn't seem outright ugly to me, and that just kinda set me off, that initial comment.
R.O. Bot Cmon is starting to annoy me with their business practices...the moment zombicide green horde closed they already announced a new zombicide...the crap thing about it was I hadn't even rcvd all of the components to the game ! Talk about being greedy !
Your previous review of Food Chain Magnate convinced me to buy it. I agree that the artwork seemed to fit it very well - I never felt it took me out of the game. Likewise, Container looks amazing for my gaming group, but the size is going to be a pain.
Thanks for the always-thoughtful reviews!
I'm really sad that I didn't back this game! It looks really nice. The price tag is around GBP 134 in Norway, so that's even more crazy. I am thinking about buying it anyways, but we'll see! Thanks for the review :)
Personally speaking, this is my favorite review you guys have done in a while - so funny and energetic. Shame this game costs as much as it does - guess we'll have to wait for a budget version of this game.
Your reviews are amazing. Thanks guys; always a pleasure.
"Hey, this game looks fun!
*looks up game on Amazon
"Holy ballsack! $100!? Paaaaaass!!!"
*Looks on Amazon in 2021
*$300?!?!?!
Another great review guys! Loved the cutscenes
I was amazed to see that after a month of being off the channel your subscribers have reached 115k. Well done!
can you refer me to that power strip though that looks like the real mvp of this review
I was thinking of getting container! So I looked for some reviews!
You guys have saved me 90 quid and a lot of heartache! Thank you very much youve got yourself a subscriber!
I am not sure you take requests but any chance you could review charterstone? :)
17:11 quins strides purposefully past the window... and then stands on the other side luke a lemon waiting to come back in
I've kind of love how this review sort of descended into that really pained complaining about a game where you still kind of love it, but it has issues and the only way you can really talk about them is in a way that just feels painful.A great video and I was sort intrigued by the idea of it, the sort of hidden economy stuff seemed interesting, but yes, I feel like you're right that you're literally just paying for big boats. Big bucks for big boats.
Great Coen brothers analogy at 7:09, sums up pretty well what I love about their films
Finally got around to making a print and play of this. Wooden cubes for containers, lego ships and my own clipart. Especially now its again out of print.
Excellent review, loved the t-shirt reveal. My copy of this is scheduled to arrive on Saturday, and if it does I'll be taking it to game group on Sunday.
This looks great. I love boxes and moving them.
If your game can remade in twenty minutes with $5 dollars in office supplies, then you need to make the effort to dress it up. With an hour, $10 dollars, and a color printer, anyone could make a game that looks better with personal flair on it too. Imagine an Elite, Eve, or Escape Velocity themed version of this game?
just noticed Matt has a heavy cardboard shirt! Nice!
0:08 That will be my reaction when Mount and Blade: Bannerlord will finally release in the year 2099. But change the “5 years” with “an eternity”.
Awesome reviews as always!
The fact that this is only $20 less expensive than twilight imperium is a crime against humanity
Love u guys
It looks like a game where you could just download the rules and then make your own components to play with. And they really got the guts to ask 90 pounds for it???
It is, for better or worse
Let's face it we all could make like 90% of the board games in our collections with crayons and cardboard
I mean i could Recreate the entire COIN series in my basement, but i lack the will...
What a great review! I think since this is the only edition you can buy right now it's probably the right move if you like it. Adding to my wishlist now.
Wait. Can two players just collude to buy each others' shipments for ridiculous amounts and make a fortune on the subsidies?
Daniel Kane: Sure, but there's only one winner and the player who betrays their partner first will win.
You'd have to have enough money to be able to spend a ridiculous amount, which if you're taking containers to the island means you've not only spent your own money to get to that point, it's gone to your opponents, so chances of you being able to easily outbid them are slim.
"Captain, our shields are 100% bad."
I bought this 10 years ago and sadly have only got to drag it out once. One of my main players essentially did what this game is for work and the game itself was strangling his joy while at the same time he destroyed everyone at the table. Damn fine game though.
Glad to see one of my favorite board games getting a rerelease. Great review
Love the slow progression toward the Heavy Cardboard shirt
I dont play boardgames but i love your videos you guys are awesome
Great review. Love the Heavy Cardboard T-Shirt and no pants on Matt. LOL
The power strip bit had me laughing harder than I expected.
My first thought: "Hey, if you buy my containers at an exorbitant price I'll buy yours at an exorbitant price and we'll both get to abuse the government subsidy fund...." Yay capitalism?
I agree that the price makes this game an indulgence. That said, I owned the original Container (a P500 backer for that as I recall) and it is such a good game that I am prepared to swallow the hit for the knowledge that this is actually a great game. Avoiding buyer's regret has value as all hobby board games are becoming increasingly expensive.
I'll pick it up second hand or when retailers aren't selling it for the outrageous price. Great video by the way
same here. As I recently just purchased FOod chain magnate I can happily wait to get this one at a reasonable price if at all. Though I want to say man the artwork could have been done better.
It kinda sucked when I played this with 5 people where only 1 actually knew the game because we quickly ran out of money in the economy. I had an early lead because I invested in a lot of containers expecting the value to go up. But as we ran out of money, the value plummeted, so other players got containers wayyy cheaper and I got passed in points. Still got like second though because a couple of the players were completely out of money with full warehouses by the end. Hopefully it'll go better if we play it again since we actually know some of the things not to do now.
awesome power strip! looks like the new Z-PP-120 model. I wish my friends were that insightful!
You two look amazing in suits, by the way.
"Captain! Our shields are 100% bad!"
The costumes and props of the sci-fi scene are so good!
Say, I recognize that spaceship background from the Cool Ghosts Stellaris video!
$90 price tag aside, this game is pure enjoyment (and chaos) between my friends of gamers.
Honestly, if the box-art makes you think "I would enjoy this game.", it's worth the value.
The test for if you'll like this game or not is simple. Do you want to play this game after watching this?
My answer is no. And i was super excited to try arkwright after your review.
The cover of this looks like one of those really boring Ravensburger puzzles you find at your grandma's house in a cupboard when bored looking around for something to do, but somehow seems more boring than the nothing you're already doing
best container game Ever Given
You have somehow made me want to buy this game...
Yes one my games I own finally got a reboot. Love the game just wish could go more colours on containers and the players.
Hey Matt hit me up with that power board link that looks dope. I want me some boring Qualcomm fast charge
Is there a mechanic to block the Suez Canal?
Return of the Skit! :-D
🎶 I like big boats and I cannot lie 🎶
Yay! Matt's back! Hello Matt
That photo of Quinns and the power strip killed me!
The link in your description puts the game at $289!!!
Up to $329 now. I'll just get Crokinole instead.
@@justingould2020 What is wrong with people? Are they the insulin producers of board games?
So, depending on what StarQuinns meant by "loss," Matt has lost either €10 or €26.
It depends on if they're including the loss of market value on the original Klingon eggs, or are just asking about the difference between the sale price and the purchase price of the new eggs.
6:50, the moment it indeed became clear that Matt had gone "all in", auctioning his pants.
nice sly ad for HeavyCardboard. Have been watching their channel for a few months now. really like them.
It weighs 90 pounds? That is heavy.
No, the uk currency about $100
Woosh
can one use airships from scythe wind gambit for this game?
Hey SU&SD, new to your great channel. I was trying to look to see if you guys have reviewed The Thing: Infection At Outpost 31. I looked but you have a LOT of vids, lol. It seems like the kind of Thing (get it) you guys would do but I know that the company wasn’t shipping the game directly, outside of North America. I value your game judgment and just wanted to know what you thought about it. I don’t do social media really so I’m asking here. 😁
What's the tune during Quinns' basic description 0:37?
Container is $350 USD on Amazon right now. 😔
I played a game that was like this but more card based. Can anyone help me out?
You would bid on goods on boats and you'd be able to upgrade your base with abilities.
[Edit] - Import/Export was the game I was thinking about. Nice little game with a similar theme to this.
Import/Export?
Yeah, I had edited the above after I found it, but well done!
Yes, Import/Export has been called "the love-child of Container and Mottainai/Glory to Rome"
Is it me or is this game impossible to find to buy, any ideas? I might just make my own copy
I'm watching this review a mere 18 months after it came out and already it's out of stock again in my country and the prices are through the roof! FLIPPIN' HECK!
the theme of this game makes me depressed just hearing about it
Container:
And you thought you would profit from this.
A game this simple shouldn't even be 40 dollars.