i think Emil was just hired to try and do a life coaching thing i don’t think he knew they were horrible people who hated jen. he said that it was just about money and protected jen in the fight and jen seems cool with him she was only mad about him breaking parole by turning back. so i think he’s still a good guy and the group is still wholesome
@@7Seraphem7 I think he's smart, he just doesn't believe the stuff that he sells people. All his motivational talk is vague and generic. He also scammed his "soul mates" who paid for his property and they all got ditched once he was out of prison.
@@dphalanx7465 Would have liked to see Abomination on the team, but tbh the problem I have with the Thunderbolts lineup is the same problem I had with Agents of SMASH - a startling lack of versatility and diversity. They're all primarily melee fighters, and with the exception of Ghost, they more or less have the same skillsets. Would have liked to see someone like the Beetle (potentially introduced in Armor Wars or a Spider-Man movie), or Songbird (introduced in s2 of Hawkeye) as aerial/ranged members. I'd have also been happy with someone like Speed Demon or Absorbing Man - even if they are also melee-centric, they do offer some more diversity than half the team essentially being just different flavours of the same drink.
This is quintessential She-Hulk (from the John Byrne run). She literally did this in the comic, got pissed with the ongoing plot, broke the 4th wall and tore through a few panels and confronted writer/artist John Byrne himself...this was beautiful to see...and I don't give a damn what the critics say.
This. While initially I was loving the fourth wall breaks because they were like the comic (and as said, very different to Deadpool's), some of them didn't have that John Byrne 'spark' to them (the ones where she starts doing exposition to us while the scene behind her ignores what she's doing). I felt those got too heavy handed (not meaning the strength of the wall break, but rather the tone). All the breaks this episode though were just pure John Byrne inspired. from the 70s intro, through Jen shooing off the narrator, to the final literal panel busting escape/invasion. Genius
@@4YrStasis That I remember. From the mid 80s. It's entirely possible that Marvel did something similar before then, though that was before I got into comics.
The group & Emil weren’t working with Intelligencia, they were just hosted by them & booked Emil to be a motivational speaker, Emil didn’t really know what he was getting involved with. That’s why he tried saving Jen when the rest of them wanted to attack her
It could be viewed either way, that Emil knew or didn’t know. He could still want to save Jennifer while at the same time wanting to help motivate them knowing what they are doing. And, Emil does talk about the Abomination in 3rd person earlier on, this could have been the abomination doing it. It’s something I think the writers just didn’t think much about I think. Similar to that wrecking crew dude being at Emils, and Jennifer never asks (or he doesn’t bring it up) hey why did you guys attack me with Asgardian construction weapons? Jen legally can’t turn into Hulk. The blood subplot. Why did Titania and others showed up in both endings. And I think that’s the message the writers were getting at, these plots we built up, besides Jen herself, in the end most of them don’t matter at all. It doesn’t matter if Emil knew or not. It’s about Jen’s personal story. And hey while I didn’t like the show, I respect them for at least taking a swing and throwing out most of the side plots they were building up. And it seems this approach worked for those who liked it. And that’s a great thing. And hey I’d probably be far more positive on this show if I watched it with friends. Seems like it be far better group experience. But those are just my takes & opinions.
@@FanBoyBooks why does everyone want Jen to ask a bunch of random guys why they attack a random person. They saw it as easy. What they did get was the she hulk. That what Jen saw. In fact, if they never mention the blood, to us, then that was all we would think too. Plus they didn't throw out any side plots. They just didn't use them like we assumed them to
@@galonski64 TL;DR warning ! #1 I just said these are my takes & opinions. Now I don’t know about everyone you are talking about. But was I talking about She Hulk asking random guys…. Or the guy, Dirk the Wrecker, who she recognized as one of the Wrecking Crew at the Retreat, Got Outraged, and then became friends with? If I wasn’t clear in my original post, that is who I was talking about, I am sorry for your confusion that’s on me. But…. Randoms guys why they attack a random person? Do you mean why would She-Hulk, who meets one of her attackers at a retreat and gets angry (deservedly so), but never thinks to ask this one person, hey why did you guys jump me for no apparent reason while I was all Hulked out? Or the guy, now friends with She-Hulk wouldn’t think to say… hey you know there’s a group out looking for your blood? Think about it: Why would She-Hulk think four criminals would steal Asgardian weapons and use them to beat up a regular woman even though her identity is public? Could they have? Yeah it’s possible, but it’s odd at the very least. They 100% could, but She-Hulk is Far Far smarter of character than many seem to treat her like. She is extremely smart. And while Dirk isn’t the smartest person, poor guy lol, show built up a friendship between the two and Dirk 100% knew about the blood subplot. He simply never told his friend he was hired to steal her blood.. every time they met or try to contact to tell her. But I have to explain my point of view on this…. To explain my bigger point of view… My take away, which I made sure to say … just my opinion: these subplots don’t matter. That was the point. Okay maybe using the term subplot isn’t fully correct, but it’s basically the entire message of the finale. She-Hulk gets an ending that half doesn’t make sense to her and half doesn’t fully make sense to us the viewers. Breaks the 4th wall to KEVIN… and Creates and new 2nd ending that equally doesn’t make sense. Why? Because it’s the wish fulfillment ending She-Hulk needed. And that’s good for her. Think about it.. She-Hulk warped reality so Daredevil is there for her, against his will and with no idea if he’s in the middle of saving someone. This is what She-Hulk needed in the end. It’s not all these threads, subplots, unanswered questions. She just wanted a happy ending without jerk alpha males ruining it for the rest of us men. And hey I don’t think Matt minded at all (consent would have been nice though). But this was her story. Think about it.. Without making up our own canon… Why did Titania show up both times in the endings? Why was Emil hosting anti She Hulk group? Where did the blood subplot go to actually (literally as in, where is the blood now and what was the plan for it?)? Why is She-Hulk in public entering a court in the end, if it’s illegal for her to turn into She-Hulk? I could go on, I won’t torture ppl anymore with my ramblings lol. And again allll of this is just my opinion, take on it, analysis. I hope you have a great day/night!
“I wrote in the script that when she sees this big AI machine, it's wearing a little black baseball hat, a classic Kevin Feige-style black baseball hat,” Gao recalls. “When the [visual development team] was showing us different possible sketches of K.E.V.I.N., they were all wearing little hats. No matter what type of robot or machine it was, it was wearing a little black baseball hat on top. [Human] Kevin said, ‘Well, that doesn't make a lick of sense, why would a robot wear a hat?’ I said, ‘That's the part that doesn't make sense to you, Kevin, that is the line of logic that you won't cross, we have you represented as an AI brain that is controlling all of the Marvel Cinematic Universes, but the thing that you can't get past is that it might have a hat on top of the machine?’ And he said, ‘Yeah.’” Eventually, it was proposed that the hat would actually be incorporated into the robot, instead of just sitting on top of the robot’s head. “That was the compromise that we made where now it made logical sense for Kevin and I got to have what looks like a little Kevin hat on this machine,” Gao says with a laugh.
Sensational. Literally applauded when she did the thing. One of the craziest, most groundbreaking sequences Marvel has ever done. Self-deprecating, incisive, and hilarious. Perfect finale.
I don't think it was perfect, I am undecided hate is a too strong word. But not telling how stories get from point A (being the forced fight scene) to b ( Jen being a lawyer again) doesn't get absolved by just breaking the 4th wall and being meta. Also some of the jokes in lights of resent events surrounding Marvel and the news about VFX artists not getting paid and overworked just didn't land and felt out of place
@@secretagenttau2233 It's okay, you can do something better with your life than telling someone they're wrong about what they like and how they like it.
I knew people were going to be either pissed or confused at how they ended this. That wasn’t even a Deadpool level 4th wall break. That was a straight up Gwenpool level 4th wall break.
@@Rated314 I know that. I've seen Variant Comics' video on the "History of She-Hulk", so I know that she's broken the 4th wall before in comics. I just never expected them to take to this extent in the MCU. I even liked the homage they did in the beginning of the episode to the 1978 Incredible Hulk series. Especially since creating a female Hulk spin-off was originally CBS's idea, but Marvel took it and said they could make it better.
@@rushmaverick1923 Nice...toss in more trivia to shade the fact that @RATED called you out with the Gwenpool thing. 😉👍 Point is, if you knew She-Hulk had done this first, years ago, there was no point in giving the cred to newer characters.
that look when you both thought it had crashed or ended or something and landed you back on the D+ screen :-) Knew you guys would love this. One specific demographic will hate it sooooo much, and I'm perfectly ok with that!
I kind of wish the show had come out and said Todd's an incel who created Intelligencia to punish Jen for denying him the attention he felt she owed him, and all the stuff about "deserving" powers was just smoke to hide his insecurities. I think it's pretty obvious from context that's the case, but these days, so many people are so deep in denial you've gotta state the obvious so they won't think the show's message secretly supports them.
Facts!! There was ONE thing I was sort of thinking (maybe low-key wishing)… when he injected and that was you would see the sequence but his head go massive and be the leader 😂 But what we got was epic
I can just imagine when the writers sent this to Feige for approval. I can see the shit-eating grin slowly grow on his face before he yelled, "YES. DO THIS. THIS WILL HAPPEN." 😂
got it right here for you from the Director Gao herself “I think I probably wrote like, 20 versions of a finale that went all over the place and I started feeling like, ‘Well, this is a Marvel show, I better give them the classic Marvel ending,’” Gao continues. “Big villain fight, big finale. But it never felt right because I was trying to fit a square peg in a round hole.” It was the real-life Kevin, Kevin Feige, who helped Gao realize that maybe She-Hulk didn’t need the big villain battle ending. After a talk, Feige “really opened my mind to the idea that it's OK to not do that because I was trying to do what I thought was the Marvel expectation of what the show had to be. He was like, ‘Why? No one's telling you to do that, you don't have to do that, you can do something completely different, we should be doing something completely different because this show is so different from anything that Marvel has done.’ It was getting that permission from him that really made me think, ‘Oh.’ It just changed everything.”
@@crystalfire5564 Have you ever seen Tucker And Dale Vs Evil? Jay's laugh reminds me of Dale's laugh at the start of the movie, and I mean that as the highest compliment.
First thing I gotta say. When Bruce said "I have someone here I want you all to meet" I immediately started freaking out before he even stepped out from behind him. I knew immediately it was Skaar
I sure hope that they're gonna do a Planet Hulk movie cuz if this is how they introduce Skaar, one of the most important Hulks from the best Hulk and one of the best Marvel storylines, that's gonna be extremely disappointing. Like they just go ,, here's Skaar, that's it". But Jen said ,,save it for the movie" which probably means that they're gonna do the Planet Hulk movie
Abomination wasn't part of the group trying to take down Jen. He was a guest speaker for the group who booked his barn. I really think he was prepared to do his "life-coach" thing until everything went off the rails. Notice he didn't really try fighting back with Hulk, just defending himself.
This. This is why I love Preview’d. A lot of other reactors have been nakedly lukewarm to this totally brilliant series. I waited all day to watch you lose your minds over this episode. Y’all did not disappoint. 💕
@@binder38us ironically it’s funny how Jen pointed out that the same people that are complaining about her show are the same ones that say all MCU things are the same
Jay said it best. " i cant wait to see the backlash from this episode". Im so glad you guys liked it. Its so pure shehulk and i loved very minute of it
Imagination at it's best!!! What an amazing finale. I may not have loved every episode but this beyond wall breaking wrap up has me so eager for more She Hulk and all the possibilities. This was freaking brilliant!
You're so spot on that they're making stuff that isn't for everyone now. Like I LOVE Multiverse of Madness, but I understand it's not for everyone. And anyway I think it's the right direction for Marvel to go. Be more niche. They're still gonna get more eyes and make more money than anyone.
Ok but then they basically just skipped over the part where all the plot lines got resolved. How do people not feel ripped off and disappointed by that? This would have been great as the 2nd to last episode setting up the finale, but not the actual finale.
@@sjs334 Honestly, I initially felt like this as well. But on further reflection, I think her confrontation with K.E.V.I.N. is the climactic battle, and it caters to Jen and not She-Hulk. It is a war of Words and Arguments, not fists.
@@sjs334 People don't feel ripped off by it because we all know perfectly well the conflicts will all be resolved in the hero's favor. There is no joy in the ending, only in the journey to get to the ending; and this journey is one of the funniest, most engaging journeys I've watched in a long time.
@@jimballard1186 If we know thr hero will win in the end then why does ANY superhero plotline matter? What's the point of even having a show with storylines and plottwists in the first place if viewers don't even care how it ultimately plays out and gets resolved/explained?
13:38 actually, this whole ultra-meta 4th wall break of Jen confronting her 'creators' deal, goes all the way to the John Bryne 'Sensational She-Hulk' series from the late 1980s/early 1990s. There were MULTIPLE occasions where Jen would move the scene along by punching her way through art boxes, and even act like she going to jump out of the page and yell at Bryne for innocuous, silly storytelling on his part.
I really liked both the show and the finale. Loved that they leaned into the comedic beats. My only gripe was the runtime could have been longer. Did you catch the reference to BP via the theme song when K.E.V.I.N said that the VX people moved to another project?
Jessica Gao said that she had 30 different endings prepared, and this was the one Kevin Feige picked. They also had to cut out a lot of jokes about Marvel. Side Note: I'm glad you guys distinguished (at least in editing) that Planet Hulk and Word War Hulk are two separate stories.
@@rodneyhobbs6507 Well I personally loved the series and don't see at all how you can hate or dislike it, or even why you think the show was made intentionally to be bad. Is it perfect? No. But it's highly enjoyable and presents an MCU character that I can finally relate to.
I was waiting to see if the guys would recognize the send-up of the old Hulk show from the 70s. I guess there are few of us old enough even to remember the reruns of that on tv!
I remember the tv movies with thor (and donald blake who summons thor with mjinor) and daredevil fun fact that the guy who played thor in one of those movies was played by the dad in good luck charlie on the disney channel
This was BRILLIANT! From the shot-for-shot remake of the 70s intro, to, straight from the 2005 comic convo with the writers. And, K.E.V.I.N.'s little baseball cap had me in stitches!
I needed y'alls reaction today. Made me smile the whole time. I also love that entire scene talking to KEVIN! She just talks to him like a normal person rather than an actor if that makes sense. Loved it.
I love that when Wong appears, he apologizes for being late and Emil mutters something akin to, "Did you get dragged into another series?" I lost my shit. That was the best 4th wall break of all, save Deadpool's, "That's, like, *sixteen* walls."
I already loved She-Hulk and never understood any of the hate, but this just solidified it as my favorite show ever! The 4th wall break was the best I've seen in anything ever! I LOVE this style of humor and how it can point out its own flaws and everything. Some people love Andor and hate She-Hulk and I'm the opposite despite being a nerd for both, just because I like things to be unique and entertaining and having humor and Easter Eggs to keep me interested. By the way, I really expected Todd to be a Red Hulk because Marvel has drastically changed things before so I wouldn't have been surprised.😅 Unfortunately the subtitles made it clear Kevin was a robot because it said K.E.V.I.N instead of just Kevin. Oh well
I loved this show and especially the finale. The haters can hate but they can't tell me how to feel about it. I loved your reactions to this whole show and especially this one. They pretty much mirrored mine.
The QR code on the 'She-Hulk Production' poster on the door into the writers room, takes you to the comic where She-Hulk goes to the Marvel studios and confronts the ACTUAL writer of the comic book! 👍🏻😎
I'm so glad that y'all are here, cuz the other reactors today are largely shitting on the ending. It's basically just you and Reel Rejects that seemed to like it. I love that Marvel is taking big swings. And I'm glad some people, like you, agree.
This is by FAR the most fun Marvel tv finale to watch reaction videos for, lol. I watched one with 3 people and the wild variation in facial reactions throughout the 2nd half of the episode were bloody hilarious! 😂
I watched the finale earlier and this thought suddenly hit me; this show is structured the same way a “best of” or highlight RUclips video is structured. I just suddenly felt like I was watching a TLDR of the actual She Hulk show. I was enjoying everything I was seeing, but because how many episodes we get and how short they are themselves, we don’t spend enough time on anything to truly feel satisfied and it made me so sad. I enjoyed it way more than I thought I would (She Hulk is not normally my thing) and I wanted to see so much more, so the sadness was from me being disappointed that there wasn’t more. This show is literally a series of TLDRs for what should have been longer episodes. I really hope it gets a season 2 and they address that. I wanna see more lawyer stuff and I wanna see more of her and Matt being goofy together (it is so nice seeing him be happy). I just want more of all of it.
This guy gets it. Yes, there were shortcomings, (but in no way did it deserve all the hate-dom). Like you, I think they were mostly in regards to the depth/length of the presentation, not the product itself. It was a show that needed more time to show itself off.
@@dphalanx7465 right? There were so many good ideas but we never spent enough time on any of it to truly feel like it was fleshed out. With the episodes being so short and with so few, you really need to hit a pinpoint and it felt like they weren’t sure which point to hit, or like they were trying to hit too many points. More episodes, longer episodes please. I wanna see her do more lawyer stuff, fun or serious. Her supporting cast was great, more of them too. More time, give us more time with everything.
This was the perfect ending for anyone who has actually read a She-Hulk comic. This was the TV equivalent of her ripping through pages to get from one scene to another in her own book.
I think Emil is mostly just benevolently self-centered. He doesn't mind breaking law and his word for what he sees as a victimless crime (and a payday.) He doesn't mind turning himself in because he knows he won't be in prison long. He's the abomination, almost nothing can threaten him--if you don't have any emotional problems, that's a recipe for being able to maintain an unshakable chill.
This was perfection. And the Disney + menu fakeout totally got me, rapidly fumbling for the mouse and keyboard to try and find what went wrong with my stream.
I am oddly reminded of the original Monkey Island where at one point Threepwood falls off a cliff and the game reverts to the load menu... at which point you fumble for the mouse and swear because you haven't saved in ages because these games *never* kill you... and then the load menu disappears, Threepwood flies back up from screen bottom, lands back at the top of the cliff and says "Rubber tree..." Total fakeout. That of course and She Hulk in the comic breaking out of Dr Bong's deathtrap by sneaking through a used comic mart ad...
I'm at an interesting spot because I LOVED EVERYTHING THIS EPISODE DID, but also dislike that the wrap up was too quick, too easy, BUT AT THE SAME TIME THAT'S THE POINT, but I feel like some narrative promises weren't kept, BUT THAT'S THE BEAUTY. I'm conflicted.
My observation about Jen's scene with K.E.V.I.N., is that the way it delivered its lines, actually sounded like that's Kevin Feige speaking, as if he's the one who wrote his dialogue. Also, nice touch with the hat it's wearing on top of the visor. Either way, the finale is unexpected and meta, or should I say 'bonkers'!
I read on another reaction that there's a QR code on the door to the She-Hulk production room, it takes you to the issue of the comics where she's at the Marvel office trying to find a good writer for her comic
I loved it too, and I'm glad you guys got it and I especially adored catching someone confused in a review at the menu screen... That's when they turned it up to 11 ;) Oh an Emil didn't know, he was just hired as a promotional speaker and they had to come to him because he couldn't leave the property. Thanks for a wonderful review! Subscription earned :)
John Byrne would be so proud of that 4th wall break. This was 100% how a She-Hulk story should go. When her books get crazy, she has a word with the writers. This show took so much from Dan Slott and John Byrne as the foundation for this show.
I was listening to another reactor and their She Hulk review while I was working and they just went off on how they didn't like it which totally surprised me. Thanks so much for being positive and seeing the purpose of the episode. I loved it!
I loved this episode and so far you two are the only reactors I've seen who also loved it. Everyone else seemed to miss the point and was like "I wanted action and flash and plot" and this show isn't about what you want 😂
@@crystalfire5564 I've seen more who like it than dislike it, but I cultivate my recommendations pretty carefully for positivity. I am very, very tired of people who think they have to prove themselves better than a piece of art they could never create in the first place, like a Doug Walker never even bothered to make a channel.
It makes me laugh that people are upset because of that, because it literally proves Jen’s point word for word that there’s this unwritten expectation that there has to be some high stakes overarching plot with a big bad that ends in a big fight. Try anything different and people complain
Giving us a M.O.D.O.K spinoff character, a massive 4th wall break...and Skaar???!!!?? This finale was everything I didn't know I needed and now I want season 2
Also, that was not Gwenpool level fourth wall break, that was She Hulk John Byrne run level. She did that on a regular basis, ripping thru the pages and having a debate with the creative staff, including John himself. I wasn't sure if they would go that far. I'm so glad they did.
Most people don't get it, but on this 'law show' it'll make sense to end it in a 'lawful way' and in regard to Post Credits, Wong has been doing street fights w/Abominable since forever... makes sense how they managed. It's hilarious!
You guys got it....4/4 wall breaks for this reaction, you got how the struggle was Jen finding herself through the pressures of her reality and our reality.
If someone told you at the start this was how it was going to end you would not believe it but once you see it, it makes total sense. It even makes fun of itself as it is the complaint people have. So credit for it. We need to let each one tell its story and not every story needs a big epic fight at the end. This went total Blazing Saddles.
I'm so happy you guys loved this episode so much. You guys are always the first reaction I watch for anything because you guys vibe so well together and it's such a joy seeing how well aligned your opinions are with mine.
21:06 I 150% agree, Adam. The haters are going to lose their s**t over this one and I'm here for it! xDD Also the "and sometimes Matt Murdock" line made me LOL. Actual best. 25:38 You make a good point but I really want to see Matt kick his ass. Not as Daredevil, just Matt Murdock put his cane down and knock the crap out of Douchebag Lawyer. That would be perfection! Edited to add: 26:43 YES I legit gave a little delighted scream at the X-Men line!
I loved this finale so much!!!! One question I would have for you and everyone: does the fact that Jen addressed the faults of the predictable finale, but ultimately didn't actually give us the elements she wished for, besides a single scene at the end, detract from it?
For me it does, I found the idea itself entertaining and funny with Kevin Ai and all, but you can't at the same time cop out of telling a thing you set up the whole season for it suddenly not be a thing anymore. Now I am wondering among other things if Josh even did steal her blood in the first place.
I think it's fine. Comic books are built on magical thinking in the first place, so skipping the contrivances that try to make magical thinking seem plausible and just literally push God around until he caves is outstanding.
@@betaich He still stole her blood. She only changed the cliche' villain mimicking her powers, random characters just showing up, time of day and removing the generic fight scene at the end for her stepping back in to the conflict and ending the situation legally instead of violently.
Great finale! Also I think this is the first actual "X-Men" name drop--they have only used the theme music and Prof X was never mentioned to be the leader of the X-Men in MoM. 😵💫
Skaar is Hulk son from comics and his birth hapend after some sort of time after Avengers Age of ultron when he with queenjet fall on Sakar and become gradiator. ;)
Most important takeaway, people really seemed to connect and loved this show. Im far more happy that others enjoy it than any other take away I could have. Because, While the comedy, writing, and structure of the show didn’t work for me… I’m really glad You Guys & Everyone Else who did, really enjoyed it. Hey I at least still have my she hulk comics. I hope you guys get a Season 2 (which I’ll still watch, MCU is like a comic series… Ups and Downs, good or bad.. I’m sticking around) and more of She-Hulk. And hey it’s great watching you 2 react to anything (one day I’ll find friends to watch stuff with)! I gotta admit In the finale episodes, the She Hulk cgi looked the best it’s been and really good.
Wow. Your idea for Kevin Feige retiring but turning off the robot gave me flashbacks. On the last episode of Babylon 5 the show’s creator, JMS turned off the lights in the final scene.
Jay & Adam, You guys are one of my favorite reaction channels. You give some of the most genuine reactions of any other channel. I was not personally a fan of She-Hulk, but I am a fan of you! Cheers!
Wow, of all the series I’ve watched you 2 cover, this is literally the first time (that I’ve seen), that Jay didn’t cry during one episode! Although you came pretty close to weeping out of joy when Daredevil showed up.
I just couldn't wait to see you guy's reaction to this! Since Adam has knowledge, all that stuff in the show that's in the comics...wait, I'm having a geekattack!
I didn’t think they’d go full Ambush bug on this one, but they did. I’m actually kind of satisfied that I finally got to see such shenanigans on the screen, and not just in comics. The intro for this episode, though, Chef’s Kiss. They even got every little head turn right. Bill Bixby and Lou Ferrigno would be proud. People really should watch the 70s Hulk Tv Show intro to see how much detail they got right.
@22:05 I absolutely LOVE your guys’ observation about what the MCU has been doing, which is bring superhero elements to different genres, ie. espionage, action-adventure, caper, buddy-comedy…. You guys are right, there’s only so much you can do, so when you swing for the fences in a completely different genre that has a specific niche audience, it’s simply just gonna be not for everyone. That may not speak to the quality, but that is true what you guys are saying. And yes, I liked that you guys acknowledged the criticism of the MCU getting too wacky and goofy. Considering one of the most popular MCU movies contains a talking raccoon, a walking-talking tree, ends with a dance-off, thsts rich. And yes: we got “Moon Knight” this year; we’ve had episodes dealing with abuse, PTSD, and even the Partition…. For all the complaints that the MCU is “all the same”, I gotta hand it to ‘em for legit doing something different, ie. in a different genre AND with how they handled this particular climax. “She-Hulk” isn’t my favorite show, but i still enjoyed it for what it was, and I’m happy to see guys like you take it the same way, unapologetically. 🙌🏾🙏🏽
They released that lineup photo for thunderbolts, maybe abomination was standing behind the group and was just cropped out. Its hopeful but it'd be cool.
i think Emil was just hired to try and do a life coaching thing i don’t think he knew they were horrible people who hated jen. he said that it was just about money and protected jen in the fight and jen seems cool with him she was only mad about him breaking parole by turning back. so i think he’s still a good guy and the group is still wholesome
Yeah, but they need to get him back into prison so that Val can offer him a "deal." *_Thunderbolts_* incoming!
Yeah I like he ended up not being a bad guy, just kind of an idiot.
@@7Seraphem7 I think he's smart, he just doesn't believe the stuff that he sells people. All his motivational talk is vague and generic. He also scammed his "soul mates" who paid for his property and they all got ditched once he was out of prison.
@@dphalanx7465 Would have liked to see Abomination on the team, but tbh the problem I have with the Thunderbolts lineup is the same problem I had with Agents of SMASH - a startling lack of versatility and diversity. They're all primarily melee fighters, and with the exception of Ghost, they more or less have the same skillsets. Would have liked to see someone like the Beetle (potentially introduced in Armor Wars or a Spider-Man movie), or Songbird (introduced in s2 of Hawkeye) as aerial/ranged members. I'd have also been happy with someone like Speed Demon or Absorbing Man - even if they are also melee-centric, they do offer some more diversity than half the team essentially being just different flavours of the same drink.
@@ketchup016 I think he believes in it, he just haven't put much thought in in.
I love how they played Black Panther music when K.E.V.I.N says the special effects team has moved on to another project
Heard that too!
Wait really?! I did not catch that at first!
Perioddddddttt lol it’s up next for marvel movies so they’re hopefully putting in the finishing touches
@@TrickyDicky2006 I think it was a standard suspenseful musical cue, but it certainly sounded similar!
@@TrickyDicky2006 it's the same little tone they played each time Wong showed up earlier in the season.
This is quintessential She-Hulk (from the John Byrne run). She literally did this in the comic, got pissed with the ongoing plot, broke the 4th wall and tore through a few panels and confronted writer/artist John Byrne himself...this was beautiful to see...and I don't give a damn what the critics say.
Critic? I thought they are party poopers.
Thank you. Everyone else is like "Oh, this is like Deadpool!" And me as an older person knowing She-Hulk did it all first.
This. While initially I was loving the fourth wall breaks because they were like the comic (and as said, very different to Deadpool's), some of them didn't have that John Byrne 'spark' to them (the ones where she starts doing exposition to us while the scene behind her ignores what she's doing). I felt those got too heavy handed (not meaning the strength of the wall break, but rather the tone). All the breaks this episode though were just pure John Byrne inspired. from the 70s intro, through Jen shooing off the narrator, to the final literal panel busting escape/invasion. Genius
@@Keyofone So she was the first of her kind? In marvel, I mean?
@@4YrStasis That I remember. From the mid 80s. It's entirely possible that Marvel did something similar before then, though that was before I got into comics.
"I just didn't get handed superpowers" he says as someone literally hands him his powers in a needle lmao
With the logic of the Dude Bro: “I payed for someone else to do it, and that’s just as good as doing it myself.” 🤢
He also stole the powers from She Hulk too. But he justifies it with his delusions.
The group & Emil weren’t working with Intelligencia, they were just hosted by them & booked Emil to be a motivational speaker, Emil didn’t really know what he was getting involved with. That’s why he tried saving Jen when the rest of them wanted to attack her
They need him in prison for _Thunderbolts,_ is the thing.
@@dphalanx7465 though he didn't stay in prison
It could be viewed either way, that Emil knew or didn’t know. He could still want to save Jennifer while at the same time wanting to help motivate them knowing what they are doing. And, Emil does talk about the Abomination in 3rd person earlier on, this could have been the abomination doing it. It’s something I think the writers just didn’t think much about I think. Similar to that wrecking crew dude being at Emils, and Jennifer never asks (or he doesn’t bring it up) hey why did you guys attack me with Asgardian construction weapons? Jen legally can’t turn into Hulk. The blood subplot. Why did Titania and others showed up in both endings. And I think that’s the message the writers were getting at, these plots we built up, besides Jen herself, in the end most of them don’t matter at all.
It doesn’t matter if Emil knew or not. It’s about Jen’s personal story. And hey while I didn’t like the show, I respect them for at least taking a swing and throwing out most of the side plots they were building up. And it seems this approach worked for those who liked it. And that’s a great thing. And hey I’d probably be far more positive on this show if I watched it with friends. Seems like it be far better group experience. But those are just my takes & opinions.
@@FanBoyBooks why does everyone want Jen to ask a bunch of random guys why they attack a random person. They saw it as easy. What they did get was the she hulk. That what Jen saw. In fact, if they never mention the blood, to us, then that was all we would think too.
Plus they didn't throw out any side plots. They just didn't use them like we assumed them to
@@galonski64 TL;DR warning !
#1 I just said these are my takes & opinions.
Now I don’t know about everyone you are talking about. But was I talking about She Hulk asking random guys…. Or the guy, Dirk the Wrecker, who she recognized as one of the Wrecking Crew at the Retreat, Got Outraged, and then became friends with? If I wasn’t clear in my original post, that is who I was talking about, I am sorry for your confusion that’s on me.
But…. Randoms guys why they attack a random person? Do you mean why would She-Hulk, who meets one of her attackers at a retreat and gets angry (deservedly so), but never thinks to ask this one person, hey why did you guys jump me for no apparent reason while I was all Hulked out? Or the guy, now friends with She-Hulk wouldn’t think to say… hey you know there’s a group out looking for your blood?
Think about it: Why would She-Hulk think four criminals would steal Asgardian weapons and use them to beat up a regular woman even though her identity is public? Could they have? Yeah it’s possible, but it’s odd at the very least. They 100% could, but She-Hulk is Far Far smarter of character than many seem to treat her like. She is extremely smart.
And while Dirk isn’t the smartest person, poor guy lol, show built up a friendship between the two and Dirk 100% knew about the blood subplot. He simply never told his friend he was hired to steal her blood.. every time they met or try to contact to tell her.
But I have to explain my point of view on this…. To explain my bigger point of view… My take away, which I made sure to say … just my opinion: these subplots don’t matter. That was the point.
Okay maybe using the term subplot isn’t fully correct, but it’s basically the entire message of the finale. She-Hulk gets an ending that half doesn’t make sense to her and half doesn’t fully make sense to us the viewers. Breaks the 4th wall to KEVIN… and Creates and new 2nd ending that equally doesn’t make sense. Why? Because it’s the wish fulfillment ending She-Hulk needed. And that’s good for her.
Think about it.. She-Hulk warped reality so Daredevil is there for her, against his will and with no idea if he’s in the middle of saving someone. This is what She-Hulk needed in the end. It’s not all these threads, subplots, unanswered questions. She just wanted a happy ending without jerk alpha males ruining it for the rest of us men. And hey I don’t think Matt minded at all (consent would have been nice though). But this was her story.
Think about it.. Without making up our own canon… Why did Titania show up both times in the endings? Why was Emil hosting anti She Hulk group? Where did the blood subplot go to actually (literally as in, where is the blood now and what was the plan for it?)? Why is She-Hulk in public entering a court in the end, if it’s illegal for her to turn into She-Hulk? I could go on, I won’t torture ppl anymore with my ramblings lol. And again allll of this is just my opinion, take on it, analysis. I hope you have a great day/night!
Putting a cap on the Kevin robot was such a cool touch!
I was laughing so hard at K.E.V.I.N. I didn’t even notice it until it was pointed out here 😂
And it was the exact same type/aesthetic of cap we've seen Kevin Feige wear in interviews and documentaries.
Yeah I haven't seen anyone else talk about this whole episode was amazing
“I wrote in the script that when she sees this big AI machine, it's wearing a little black baseball hat, a classic Kevin Feige-style black baseball hat,” Gao recalls. “When the [visual development team] was showing us different possible sketches of K.E.V.I.N., they were all wearing little hats. No matter what type of robot or machine it was, it was wearing a little black baseball hat on top. [Human] Kevin said, ‘Well, that doesn't make a lick of sense, why would a robot wear a hat?’ I said, ‘That's the part that doesn't make sense to you, Kevin, that is the line of logic that you won't cross, we have you represented as an AI brain that is controlling all of the Marvel Cinematic Universes, but the thing that you can't get past is that it might have a hat on top of the machine?’ And he said, ‘Yeah.’”
Eventually, it was proposed that the hat would actually be incorporated into the robot, instead of just sitting on top of the robot’s head. “That was the compromise that we made where now it made logical sense for Kevin and I got to have what looks like a little Kevin hat on this machine,” Gao says with a laugh.
I always have subtitles but this time the subtitles ruined the twist
Sensational. Literally applauded when she did the thing. One of the craziest, most groundbreaking sequences Marvel has ever done. Self-deprecating, incisive, and hilarious. Perfect finale.
It's ok you can stop lying
@@secretagenttau2233 so you think it's a lie that it's a perfect finale to this show? 🧐
I don't think it was perfect, I am undecided hate is a too strong word. But not telling how stories get from point A (being the forced fight scene) to b ( Jen being a lawyer again) doesn't get absolved by just breaking the 4th wall and being meta. Also some of the jokes in lights of resent events surrounding Marvel and the news about VFX artists not getting paid and overworked just didn't land and felt out of place
@@secretagenttau2233 It's okay, you can do something better with your life than telling someone they're wrong about what they like and how they like it.
@@betaich Except for the fact that this show was recorded months before the VFX artist news came out...meaning that they already had the joke.
They missed an opportunity for Wong to say "we're not savages" in the end credits when he was asked about wi-fi
SHAMBALLA
@@themetalchica probably BEYONCE now
Improvised dialogue, I think.
@@kiorili Drunkgirl
"And Sometimes Matt Murdock..." LOVE that line hahaha 17:35
That line and its delivery were everything! 😍✨
Possibly the best part of the whole great episode. Just brilliant joke and delivery.
why do you people love this crap show?
I like when she mentioned the X-Men, she knows what we want! :D
I knew people were going to be either pissed or confused at how they ended this. That wasn’t even a Deadpool level 4th wall break. That was a straight up Gwenpool level 4th wall break.
That was a straight-up Byrne's She-Hulk-level 4th wall break.
This isn't Deadpool or Gwenpool. She-Hulk, in comic, has broken out of a panel to discuss her storyline with the writer/artist.
@@Rated314 I know that. I've seen Variant Comics' video on the "History of She-Hulk", so I know that she's broken the 4th wall before in comics. I just never expected them to take to this extent in the MCU. I even liked the homage they did in the beginning of the episode to the 1978 Incredible Hulk series. Especially since creating a female Hulk spin-off was originally CBS's idea, but Marvel took it and said they could make it better.
@@rushmaverick1923 That's true, Stan Lee created ShebHulk just so that CBS couldn't have the rights to it
@@rushmaverick1923 Nice...toss in more trivia to shade the fact that @RATED called you out with the Gwenpool thing. 😉👍
Point is, if you knew She-Hulk had done this first, years ago, there was no point in giving the cred to newer characters.
that look when you both thought it had crashed or ended or something and landed you back on the D+ screen :-) Knew you guys would love this. One specific demographic will hate it sooooo much, and I'm perfectly ok with that!
I kind of wish the show had come out and said Todd's an incel who created Intelligencia to punish Jen for denying him the attention he felt she owed him, and all the stuff about "deserving" powers was just smoke to hide his insecurities. I think it's pretty obvious from context that's the case, but these days, so many people are so deep in denial you've gotta state the obvious so they won't think the show's message secretly supports them.
@@jimballard1186 I mean they did though, just not in words.
Facts!!
There was ONE thing I was sort of thinking (maybe low-key wishing)… when he injected and that was you would see the sequence but his head go massive and be the leader 😂
But what we got was epic
I can just imagine when the writers sent this to Feige for approval. I can see the shit-eating grin slowly grow on his face before he yelled, "YES. DO THIS. THIS WILL HAPPEN." 😂
got it right here for you from the Director Gao herself
“I think I probably wrote like, 20 versions of a finale that went all over the place and I started feeling like, ‘Well, this is a Marvel show, I better give them the classic Marvel ending,’” Gao continues. “Big villain fight, big finale. But it never felt right because I was trying to fit a square peg in a round hole.”
It was the real-life Kevin, Kevin Feige, who helped Gao realize that maybe She-Hulk didn’t need the big villain battle ending. After a talk, Feige “really opened my mind to the idea that it's OK to not do that because I was trying to do what I thought was the Marvel expectation of what the show had to be. He was like, ‘Why? No one's telling you to do that, you don't have to do that, you can do something completely different, we should be doing something completely different because this show is so different from anything that Marvel has done.’ It was getting that permission from him that really made me think, ‘Oh.’ It just changed everything.”
Jay's laugh throughout this has been the serotonin I needed today
Yes! Such a good laugh. Makes you want to laugh along.
Same here. Probably going to watch this again and laugh along with him... again.✨
@@crystalfire5564 Have you ever seen Tucker And Dale Vs Evil? Jay's laugh reminds me of Dale's laugh at the start of the movie, and I mean that as the highest compliment.
Did you guys notice the Wakanda drums when K.E.V.I.N. said that the VFX team had moved onto another project?
"Did its own thing aggressively" is the perfect way to describe this show lmao. I loved every minute
First thing I gotta say.
When Bruce said "I have someone here I want you all to meet" I immediately started freaking out before he even stepped out from behind him. I knew immediately it was Skaar
And he looked like such a surly teenager.
I sure hope that they're gonna do a Planet Hulk movie cuz if this is how they introduce Skaar, one of the most important Hulks from the best Hulk and one of the best Marvel storylines, that's gonna be extremely disappointing. Like they just go ,, here's Skaar, that's it". But Jen said ,,save it for the movie" which probably means that they're gonna do the Planet Hulk movie
@@nekonebitan2912 They’re not doing a planet hulk movie.
Abomination wasn't part of the group trying to take down Jen. He was a guest speaker for the group who booked his barn. I really think he was prepared to do his "life-coach" thing until everything went off the rails. Notice he didn't really try fighting back with Hulk, just defending himself.
Now I really want to see an interaction between She-Hulk and Deadpool.
I'm pretty sure that will happen.
This. This is why I love Preview’d. A lot of other reactors have been nakedly lukewarm to this totally brilliant series. I waited all day to watch you lose your minds over this episode. Y’all did not disappoint. 💕
They all wanted "stakes".
@@binder38us ironically it’s funny how Jen pointed out that the same people that are complaining about her show are the same ones that say all MCU things are the same
@@deathking1019 then once they change it and acknowledge it they get even more angry. Love the internet
@@joegreene7619 imagine thinking your opinion is so mighty, that people who feel different lack the same mental ability as you.
@@joegreene7619 sounds like you don’t have critical thinking skills
Jay said it best. " i cant wait to see the backlash from this episode". Im so glad you guys liked it. Its so pure shehulk and i loved very minute of it
She-Hulk’s been swinging from panel to panel in the comics all the time. I’m so happy to see them paying homage to it
Imagination at it's best!!! What an amazing finale. I may not have loved every episode but this beyond wall breaking wrap up has me so eager for more She Hulk and all the possibilities. This was freaking brilliant!
The Kevin AI robot was hilarious. I’ve been waiting to see your reaction all day. Jay’s laugh was just what I needed.
Major “Auto” the evil AI from Wall-E vibes. Steering the ship, playing it safe, etc
"F the 4th, we're demolishing the 5th and 6th wall"
- K.E.V.I.N.
You're so spot on that they're making stuff that isn't for everyone now. Like I LOVE Multiverse of Madness, but I understand it's not for everyone. And anyway I think it's the right direction for Marvel to go. Be more niche. They're still gonna get more eyes and make more money than anyone.
I loved it. I loved how she broke the 4th wall to change the direction of her show.
Ok but then they basically just skipped over the part where all the plot lines got resolved. How do people not feel ripped off and disappointed by that? This would have been great as the 2nd to last episode setting up the finale, but not the actual finale.
@@sjs334 Honestly, I initially felt like this as well. But on further reflection, I think her confrontation with K.E.V.I.N. is the climactic battle, and it caters to Jen and not She-Hulk. It is a war of Words and Arguments, not fists.
@@sjs334 People don't feel ripped off by it because we all know perfectly well the conflicts will all be resolved in the hero's favor. There is no joy in the ending, only in the journey to get to the ending; and this journey is one of the funniest, most engaging journeys I've watched in a long time.
@@jimballard1186 If we know thr hero will win in the end then why does ANY superhero plotline matter? What's the point of even having a show with storylines and plottwists in the first place if viewers don't even care how it ultimately plays out and gets resolved/explained?
@@sjs334 I literally said the journey to the end is what's important. I do not understand how you get "viewers don't care how it plays out" from that.
13:38 actually, this whole ultra-meta 4th wall break of Jen confronting her 'creators' deal, goes all the way to the John Bryne 'Sensational She-Hulk' series from the late 1980s/early 1990s. There were MULTIPLE occasions where Jen would move the scene along by punching her way through art boxes, and even act like she going to jump out of the page and yell at Bryne for innocuous, silly storytelling on his part.
You two have officially become my favorite reactors on RUclips! Love y'all sweet peaches 💙
same
Double same, they’re great
I really liked both the show and the finale. Loved that they leaned into the comedic beats. My only gripe was the runtime could have been longer. Did you catch the reference to BP via the theme song when K.E.V.I.N said that the VX people moved to another project?
Every show gets 6 hours. I think this one feels shorter because of the half hour episodes and better pacing.
Jessica Gao said that she had 30 different endings prepared, and this was the one Kevin Feige picked. They also had to cut out a lot of jokes about Marvel.
Side Note: I'm glad you guys distinguished (at least in editing) that Planet Hulk and Word War Hulk are two separate stories.
Gao has been a pretty good villain for me.
@@rodneyhobbs6507 How exactly do you mean that?
@@DarthTingleBinks I mean she's the bad guy who is responsible for making the show the way it is. Her unlikability makes her a compelling villain.
@@DarthTingleBinks I'm sure she had help with how bad the show was but she's definitely the leader.
@@rodneyhobbs6507 Well I personally loved the series and don't see at all how you can hate or dislike it, or even why you think the show was made intentionally to be bad.
Is it perfect? No. But it's highly enjoyable and presents an MCU character that I can finally relate to.
I was waiting to see if the guys would recognize the send-up of the old Hulk show from the 70s. I guess there are few of us old enough even to remember the reruns of that on tv!
I remember the tv movies with thor (and donald blake who summons thor with mjinor) and daredevil fun fact that the guy who played thor in one of those movies was played by the dad in good luck charlie on the disney channel
This was BRILLIANT! From the shot-for-shot remake of the 70s intro, to, straight from the 2005 comic convo with the writers. And, K.E.V.I.N.'s little baseball cap had me in stitches!
I needed y'alls reaction today. Made me smile the whole time. I also love that entire scene talking to KEVIN! She just talks to him like a normal person rather than an actor if that makes sense. Loved it.
If you scan the QR code on the door to the writers room, it brings you to the comic of she hulk getting mad at her writers and breaking the 4th wall.
Sweet! Thanks!✨
@@jackiec859 I learned it from a comment on another reaction. 😀
@@crystalfire5564 Well, thanks for sharing it here!✨
This really was the She-Hulkiest way they could have done it. The writers really understood the source material with this one.
I was cracking up so much watching this finale! Absolutely love that they went there. 🤣
I love that when Wong appears, he apologizes for being late and Emil mutters something akin to, "Did you get dragged into another series?" I lost my shit. That was the best 4th wall break of all, save Deadpool's, "That's, like, *sixteen* walls."
Not really a 4th wall break. In Wong's appearance in the show he was hooked on Sopranos, then This is Us. Wong gets engrossed in shows.
No thanks. But cool for you!
I already loved She-Hulk and never understood any of the hate, but this just solidified it as my favorite show ever! The 4th wall break was the best I've seen in anything ever! I LOVE this style of humor and how it can point out its own flaws and everything. Some people love Andor and hate She-Hulk and I'm the opposite despite being a nerd for both, just because I like things to be unique and entertaining and having humor and Easter Eggs to keep me interested.
By the way, I really expected Todd to be a Red Hulk because Marvel has drastically changed things before so I wouldn't have been surprised.😅
Unfortunately the subtitles made it clear Kevin was a robot because it said K.E.V.I.N instead of just Kevin. Oh well
I loved this show and especially the finale. The haters can hate but they can't tell me how to feel about it. I loved your reactions to this whole show and especially this one. They pretty much mirrored mine.
Did anyone notice that the hallway fight to see KEVIN was the Black Widow fight from Iron Man 2?
The QR code on the 'She-Hulk Production' poster on the door into the writers room, takes you to the comic where She-Hulk goes to the Marvel studios and confronts the ACTUAL writer of the comic book! 👍🏻😎
I'm so glad that y'all are here, cuz the other reactors today are largely shitting on the ending. It's basically just you and Reel Rejects that seemed to like it.
I love that Marvel is taking big swings. And I'm glad some people, like you, agree.
This episode reminds me of Wandavision, as in both are groundbreaking for Marvel
This is by FAR the most fun Marvel tv finale to watch reaction videos for, lol. I watched one with 3 people and the wild variation in facial reactions throughout the 2nd half of the episode were bloody hilarious! 😂
I watched the finale earlier and this thought suddenly hit me; this show is structured the same way a “best of” or highlight RUclips video is structured. I just suddenly felt like I was watching a TLDR of the actual She Hulk show. I was enjoying everything I was seeing, but because how many episodes we get and how short they are themselves, we don’t spend enough time on anything to truly feel satisfied and it made me so sad. I enjoyed it way more than I thought I would (She Hulk is not normally my thing) and I wanted to see so much more, so the sadness was from me being disappointed that there wasn’t more. This show is literally a series of TLDRs for what should have been longer episodes.
I really hope it gets a season 2 and they address that. I wanna see more lawyer stuff and I wanna see more of her and Matt being goofy together (it is so nice seeing him be happy). I just want more of all of it.
This guy gets it. Yes, there were shortcomings, (but in no way did it deserve all the hate-dom). Like you, I think they were mostly in regards to the depth/length of the presentation, not the product itself. It was a show that needed more time to show itself off.
@@dphalanx7465 I agree.... Aside from the runtime of the episodes, I liked the show a lot. I had a fun time watching it
@@dphalanx7465 right? There were so many good ideas but we never spent enough time on any of it to truly feel like it was fleshed out. With the episodes being so short and with so few, you really need to hit a pinpoint and it felt like they weren’t sure which point to hit, or like they were trying to hit too many points. More episodes, longer episodes please.
I wanna see her do more lawyer stuff, fun or serious. Her supporting cast was great, more of them too. More time, give us more time with everything.
This was the perfect ending for anyone who has actually read a She-Hulk comic. This was the TV equivalent of her ripping through pages to get from one scene to another in her own book.
I think Emil is mostly just benevolently self-centered. He doesn't mind breaking law and his word for what he sees as a victimless crime (and a payday.) He doesn't mind turning himself in because he knows he won't be in prison long. He's the abomination, almost nothing can threaten him--if you don't have any emotional problems, that's a recipe for being able to maintain an unshakable chill.
This was perfection. And the Disney + menu fakeout totally got me, rapidly fumbling for the mouse and keyboard to try and find what went wrong with my stream.
I thought it's was me too ✋ 😭
why mine doesnt look like that xd
I am oddly reminded of the original Monkey Island where at one point Threepwood falls off a cliff and the game reverts to the load menu... at which point you fumble for the mouse and swear because you haven't saved in ages because these games *never* kill you... and then the load menu disappears, Threepwood flies back up from screen bottom, lands back at the top of the cliff and says "Rubber tree..." Total fakeout. That of course and She Hulk in the comic breaking out of Dr Bong's deathtrap by sneaking through a used comic mart ad...
I'm at an interesting spot because I LOVED EVERYTHING THIS EPISODE DID, but also dislike that the wrap up was too quick, too easy, BUT AT THE SAME TIME THAT'S THE POINT, but I feel like some narrative promises weren't kept, BUT THAT'S THE BEAUTY. I'm conflicted.
My observation about Jen's scene with K.E.V.I.N., is that the way it delivered its lines, actually sounded like that's Kevin Feige speaking, as if he's the one who wrote his dialogue. Also, nice touch with the hat it's wearing on top of the visor.
Either way, the finale is unexpected and meta, or should I say 'bonkers'!
Another great review boys, loved Adam freaking out when it returned to the Disney title screen as I did the same thing.
I thought it was the writers playing themselves. I recognized Jessica Gao from the interviews I saw of her. She's sitting at the table.
You’re right, it was the producers too
I read on another reaction that there's a QR code on the door to the She-Hulk production room, it takes you to the issue of the comics where she's at the Marvel office trying to find a good writer for her comic
That opening credit scene with narration is a play on the 1970s Incredible Hulk show starring Bill Bixby as David Bannrr and Lou Ferigno as the Hulk.
I loved it too, and I'm glad you guys got it and I especially adored catching someone confused in a review at the menu screen... That's when they turned it up to 11 ;) Oh an Emil didn't know, he was just hired as a promotional speaker and they had to come to him because he couldn't leave the property. Thanks for a wonderful review! Subscription earned :)
the way that they completely remade the original Incredible Hulk intro was phenomenal lol
I needed your take. Thanks. It really caught me off guard first time watching it, and the second look made me appreciate it more.
did you guys notice around 15:55 when Kevin said the effects team moved to another project the black panther theme music played lol
19:20 The only thing that would have been funnier would have been after the reveal Jenn saying "Come on Kevin!"
John Byrne would be so proud of that 4th wall break. This was 100% how a She-Hulk story should go. When her books get crazy, she has a word with the writers. This show took so much from Dan Slott and John Byrne as the foundation for this show.
Love it or loath it (I loved it), no one can say they saw that coming, and isn’t it at least nice to be surprised.
I was listening to another reactor and their She Hulk review while I was working and they just went off on how they didn't like it which totally surprised me. Thanks so much for being positive and seeing the purpose of the episode. I loved it!
Who’s the reactor? Asking because I don’t need the negativity and I probably won’t watch their reaction to it
I loved this episode and so far you two are the only reactors I've seen who also loved it. Everyone else seemed to miss the point and was like "I wanted action and flash and plot" and this show isn't about what you want 😂
Precisely, it's not OUR show, it's HERS.
I have seen a few reactors who loved it.
@@crystalfire5564 I've seen more who like it than dislike it, but I cultivate my recommendations pretty carefully for positivity. I am very, very tired of people who think they have to prove themselves better than a piece of art they could never create in the first place, like a Doug Walker never even bothered to make a channel.
It makes me laugh that people are upset because of that, because it literally proves Jen’s point word for word that there’s this unwritten expectation that there has to be some high stakes overarching plot with a big bad that ends in a big fight. Try anything different and people complain
Giving us a M.O.D.O.K spinoff character, a massive 4th wall break...and Skaar???!!!?? This finale was everything I didn't know I needed and now I want season 2
Modok? Where was that in the latest episode?
My big question when Matt arrive was where did he jump down from there is nothing near to him
From a "plot hole" that KEVIN used to move him from wherever he was before the rewrite. :D
Also, that was not Gwenpool level fourth wall break, that was She Hulk John Byrne run level. She did that on a regular basis, ripping thru the pages and having a debate with the creative staff, including John himself. I wasn't sure if they would go that far. I'm so glad they did.
She-Hulk
BY NIGHT ☝
Most people don't get it, but on this 'law show' it'll make sense to end it in a 'lawful way' and in regard to Post Credits, Wong has been doing street fights w/Abominable since forever... makes sense how they managed. It's hilarious!
You guys got it....4/4 wall breaks for this reaction, you got how the struggle was Jen finding herself through the pressures of her reality and our reality.
Did you catch the Black Panther sting after Kevin says the visual effects team moved on? ;)
If someone told you at the start this was how it was going to end you would not believe it but once you see it, it makes total sense.
It even makes fun of itself as it is the complaint people have. So credit for it. We need to let each one tell its story and not every story needs a big epic fight at the end.
This went total Blazing Saddles.
I'm so happy you guys loved this episode so much. You guys are always the first reaction I watch for anything because you guys vibe so well together and it's such a joy seeing how well aligned your opinions are with mine.
21:06 I 150% agree, Adam. The haters are going to lose their s**t over this one and I'm here for it! xDD
Also the "and sometimes Matt Murdock" line made me LOL. Actual best.
25:38 You make a good point but I really want to see Matt kick his ass. Not as Daredevil, just Matt Murdock put his cane down and knock the crap out of Douchebag Lawyer. That would be perfection!
Edited to add: 26:43 YES I legit gave a little delighted scream at the X-Men line!
I loved this finale so much!!!! One question I would have for you and everyone: does the fact that Jen addressed the faults of the predictable finale, but ultimately didn't actually give us the elements she wished for, besides a single scene at the end, detract from it?
For me it does, I found the idea itself entertaining and funny with Kevin Ai and all, but you can't at the same time cop out of telling a thing you set up the whole season for it suddenly not be a thing anymore. Now I am wondering among other things if Josh even did steal her blood in the first place.
@@betaich I think maybe they did but it didn't work out? So that way it could be used again later? Idk
I think it's fine. Comic books are built on magical thinking in the first place, so skipping the contrivances that try to make magical thinking seem plausible and just literally push God around until he caves is outstanding.
@@betaich He still stole her blood. She only changed the cliche' villain mimicking her powers, random characters just showing up, time of day and removing the generic fight scene at the end for her stepping back in to the conflict and ending the situation legally instead of violently.
Great finale! Also I think this is the first actual "X-Men" name drop--they have only used the theme music and Prof X was never mentioned to be the leader of the X-Men in MoM. 😵💫
I literally wait for your reactions. I was so stoked for this. This show is brilliant.
Commenting when it says posted 7 seconds ago and no views. I see this as a win.
She-Hulk: Breaks into Marvel Studios to change her show’s finale
Kang the Conqueror: *silently taking notes*
Watching this episode was the longest I've laughed consecutively for a while
You've obviously never watched true comedy then. This show is garbage. Didn't laugh once.
@@peterlenham3180 I strongly suspect you don't laugh very often. You should smile more.
Did you notice that Jen continued to break the 4th wall, even after climbing thru it on the D+ menu? That's like 16 walls
There’s a rumor that Kevin’s trying to get Harrison Ford to play Red Hulk for the Thunderbolts!
Skaar is Hulk son from comics and his birth hapend after some sort of time after Avengers Age of ultron when he with queenjet fall on Sakar and become gradiator. ;)
Most important takeaway, people really seemed to connect and loved this show. Im far more happy that others enjoy it than any other take away I could have. Because, While the comedy, writing, and structure of the show didn’t work for me… I’m really glad You Guys & Everyone Else who did, really enjoyed it. Hey I at least still have my she hulk comics. I hope you guys get a Season 2 (which I’ll still watch, MCU is like a comic series… Ups and Downs, good or bad.. I’m sticking around) and more of She-Hulk. And hey it’s great watching you 2 react to anything (one day I’ll find friends to watch stuff with)! I gotta admit In the finale episodes, the She Hulk cgi looked the best it’s been and really good.
Sup guys. Can't wait for Jays giggles.
Hahaha so true
Wow. Your idea for Kevin Feige retiring but turning off the robot gave me flashbacks. On the last episode of Babylon 5 the show’s creator, JMS turned off the lights in the final scene.
+1 for B5 :)
Jay & Adam,
You guys are one of my favorite reaction channels. You give some of the most genuine reactions of any other channel. I was not personally a fan of She-Hulk, but I am a fan of you! Cheers!
I love you guys so much. THIS is the reaction I've been waiting for all day.
Watching the episode with captions on spoiled the twist. Every character except Jen was captioned as saying "K.E.V.I.N."
Wow, of all the series I’ve watched you 2 cover, this is literally the first time (that I’ve seen), that Jay didn’t cry during one episode! Although you came pretty close to weeping out of joy when Daredevil showed up.
Luigi Pirindello's 6 She-hulks in search of a Writer's Room
Been waiting so long for your reaction this episode was soo nuts!
I just couldn't wait to see you guy's reaction to this! Since Adam has knowledge, all that stuff in the show that's in the comics...wait, I'm having a geekattack!
I loved it. Marvel trolled themselves and it was brilliant
I loved this episode. What I learned was that I love Emil and I hope he is in the thunderbolts. .
I didn’t think they’d go full Ambush bug on this one, but they did. I’m actually kind of satisfied that I finally got to see such shenanigans on the screen, and not just in comics. The intro for this episode, though, Chef’s Kiss. They even got every little head turn right. Bill Bixby and Lou Ferrigno would be proud.
People really should watch the 70s Hulk Tv Show intro to see how much detail they got right.
I seriously thought Jay was going to spit out his drink at that rushed reveal. LOL
@22:05 I absolutely LOVE your guys’ observation about what the MCU has been doing, which is bring superhero elements to different genres, ie. espionage, action-adventure, caper, buddy-comedy…. You guys are right, there’s only so much you can do, so when you swing for the fences in a completely different genre that has a specific niche audience, it’s simply just gonna be not for everyone. That may not speak to the quality, but that is true what you guys are saying. And yes, I liked that you guys acknowledged the criticism of the MCU getting too wacky and goofy. Considering one of the most popular MCU movies contains a talking raccoon, a walking-talking tree, ends with a dance-off, thsts rich. And yes: we got “Moon Knight” this year; we’ve had episodes dealing with abuse, PTSD, and even the Partition…. For all the complaints that the MCU is “all the same”, I gotta hand it to ‘em for legit doing something different, ie. in a different genre AND with how they handled this particular climax. “She-Hulk” isn’t my favorite show, but i still enjoyed it for what it was, and I’m happy to see guys like you take it the same way, unapologetically. 🙌🏾🙏🏽
That was so perfectly She-Hulk, I had to laugh out loud. Practically straight from the comics, I think the 80s run.
They released that lineup photo for thunderbolts, maybe abomination was standing behind the group and was just cropped out. Its hopeful but it'd be cool.
Finally watched the finale and got to watch your review today. Thank you guys for adding extra fun flavor to my birthday. So much fun!