It sounds highly plausible, there is something about Voldemort that already attracted the phoenix feather once, so maybe it is this same presence that attracted the second feather? From the sounds of it, phoenixes don't shed many feathers that can be used in wandcores, so it might have been prophecy... The feathers of Fawkes would always choose Voldemort and if Voldemort wouldn't have attacked Harry and infused him with part of his soul by accident, the wand would have remained ownerless for eternity (after all, it likely remained ownerless for more than 50 years). As only one wizard was worthy of the core, nobody could claim it. Unless they were Voldemort's equal. Voldemort marked Harry as his equal, by making him part Voldemort by accident so the wand would be attracted. It also would fullfill the "marking of an equal" in the prophecy even better. Voldemort made Harry his equal enabling to gain the loyality of a wand so equal to his own... Which in turn worked with the rest of prophecy as Harry was the only one who was able to withstand Voldemort and with cores of equal origin, it made Voldemorts wand less effective to Harry. But there is also something else, over the years, Harry did tame the wand and gained its loyality, mostly due to Harry's own loyality to his wand, compared to Voldemort. There is an interesting difference between how Harry and Voldemort treated their wand. Once Voldemort realized that his wand was less effective against Harry, he abandoned it. The first time, Harry's wand retalliated against Voldemort using a different wand, by giving him a taste of the magic he used to produce with the brother wand and later Voldemort tried to tame the Elder Wand, over his own wand. Harry however could never abandon his wand. Even as the rightful owner of the Elder Wand, he only wanted to be able to use the wand he had bought from Ollivander. He used the most powerful wand in the world to repair his old one, who couldn't be fixed by another wand. Harry showed loyality to the wand to such a degree that it no longer mattered that he no longer had a piece of Voldemort in him, the wand was now fully loyal to him.
if harry wasnt destined to be the one who lived then the other one who WAS supposed to be was Neville ... . now why couldnt the feather have desired to right a wrong and chose harry to right the wrong of giving a wand with his feather in it to one who became as evil and corrupt as could be .. . one little bit of oversight you did ... you say a a nonmuggle must use a wand .... yet riddle was hurting people WITHOUT a wand ... a wand is NOT required ... it is a channeling device or focus ... just like a voiced incantation is NOT needed to perform a spell ...
Independently of the feather, Fawkes assisted Harry in the chamber of secrets. There was an affinity between Fawkes and Harry and, on the surface, it was a reward for Harry defending Dumbledore, but it could run deeper than that. Harry had to arise from the ashes of his early abusive childhood and also had to rise again after being struck down by Voldemorte in the forest in the deathly hallows. Fawkes likely saw a kindred spirit within Harry and his destiny.
but all that appened after the wand chose Harry. Fawkes didn't knew Harry when he went to pick his wand, and it certainly didn't knew Harry nor Tom Riddle when they plucked his feathers to make those wands
@@matteobetti2233 he possibly did. For I wouldn't be surprised if Harry was in Dumbledore's office trying to figure out who to give Harry to figuring out his current relatives.
I think its a mistake to assume wands look for "good" or "bad" people. Ollivander is an extremely good example of a true neutral character. Yes he is terrified of Voldemort, but he also shows awe at Voldemorts power. And ultimately Ollivander is most interested in wands and their magic, no matter who the wands choose. Every bit of information he gets expands his knowledge. He is truly dedicated to his craft. Ollivander is in a way, a personification of what wands are. They are true neutral. They are a mystery how they work yes, but the wands themselves are drawn to specific types of personalities, strengths in magic and types of magic. They don't care about good or evil. If they did, wouldn't all evil characters never get a wand choosing them? Also the series talks again and again about how similar yet different Voldemort and Harry are. They are both orphans, they don't have real family, they have known cruelty, they both called Hogwarts home, and despite Harry's connections with Voldemort, he is truly a very powerful wizard, and it is reflective of his heritage and the spells he casts. So I think it's safe to say the wands chose the two of them due to the internal characteristics that make up the young boys, and the potential they have. Not necessarily based of any potential to be good or evil, but more so based off personalities and the magical powers within themselves.
“We can expect great things from you. After all he who must not be named did great things, terrible, but great things”. It’s something along the lines of that I didn’t want to check it as I think it’s right, but yeah I agree.
Harry's individual greatness is constantly at odds with his connection to Voldemort. In the beginning, one could say Harry was only significant because he was "The Boy Who Lived"; but after finishing the story, one could hardly say that Harry was not great of his own accord. He mastered multiple spells, conquered many enemies, and showed bravery unmatched by any other at his age. But above all, Harry gave love despite his life being filled with pain, death, and hate. It is this act alone that proved his greatness. When his love persevered against all the evils in the world, he achieved the pinnacle of character.
pain can make us great, ying and yang. Voldemort defined Harry's path. I believe Harry on his own would have been another spoiled rich and avg wizard. But, Voldemort and Harry's friends and professors affected his choices and growth towards greatness.
what? lmao harry was a pretty pathetic wizard all the way through. Consider his father, James Potter was an animagous by fifth year and created the marauders map with his friends. Harry at this time had just learned the stunning spell. Couldnt even do nonverbal spells. Completely failed at learning occlumency etc.
@@geocaching69 This comment totally missed the point of what I wrote. The entire idea is that he is great because of his personality traits, not his power. Which is one of the key elements of the novels.
@@geocaching69 Harry his father was an exceptional wizard. what you are saying is the same as saying all physicists are pathetic because they aren't as great as Steven Hawkins. Harry wasn't a "pathetic" wizard just not as exceptional as his father.
The book is very explicit about this. When Voldemort tried to kill Harry he made Harry the one to fulfill the prophecy that would lead to his doom. Had he chosen another, such as Neville, that person would be the one to fulfill the prophecy and therefore, most likely, have had the phoenix feather want - and Harry, meanwhile, would probably have had a wand similar to that of his father or mother. Given that, it is very clear that the wand chose Harry because it senses Tom Riddle, but it is also clear that, by the end of the books, the wand had long since changed its allegiance from Tom Riddle to Harry himself, as it embraces him fully after being repaired with the Elder Wand despite the fact that Voldemort's Horcrux was no longer in Harry; why? Because Harry proved himself great in his trials against Voldemort, earning the wand's respect if he hadn't it already.
I was about to say the same thing. But I also think Fwakes chose harry for his own talent too. Harry felt the same warmth after he repaired the wand as he did the first time. So I disagree that Fwakes chose harry just because of voldemort's soul. Harry was magically endowed just not in way voldemort was. They both had same ancestors for starters.
@@deliorgaiulian8072 but they both are descendants of peverall family..furthermore Harry became the true owner of all three hallows hence master of death, something voldemort is incapable of.
@@Sa-wh2xk yes. Harry is the decendant of the third brother, Ignotus, making him the owner of the invisibility cloak. Tom Riddle however isn't a decendant of the first brother but of the second brother. Therefore, Tom is the owner of the second brother's Resurrection Stone. Not the Elder wand.
I have always figured that the reason why the wand choose Harry was because He lived through the killing curse cast from Voldemorts wand. As the two wands are brothers, Harry’s wand chose him because he bested Voldemort. Following the wand lore of the elder wand, that wand Aligned itself to Harry.
I would agree. The vid was very good but in a way contradicted itself. He said that as Voldemort the wand would not have chosen him. It chose him as Tom Riddle for his potential and power. The parasite in Harry was Voldemort not Tom Riddle. The wand would have sensed that Harry was touched by a powerful dark curse but was alive. It would have sensed power in him and potential as well. We can say because of Voldemort's actions, Harry was chosen but I dont agree that because a piece of Voldemort was in Harry that the wand chose him.
Harry is also descended from Ignotus Peverell so why wouldn't he be destined for great things? We know he's one of the prophecy choices, and becomes the Chosen one *because* voldy chose him and not Neville. Multiple times Harry performed magic that was above his age level. I really can't agree with the dark side of why this wand would have chosen him. He was the antithesis of voldemort. Good against evil. Selfless against selfish. Powerful and yeah, heroic. Ultimately, in this story good triumphs over evil, and that wouldn't have been possible if the wand chose Harry for wicked reasons.
My head cannon was that when Voldemort tried to kill him with the wand and failed, the magic kind of punished him for his hubris and in the same way Lily’s love protected Harry from Voldemort’s killing curse, his willingness to leave behind his humanity lead to his wand’s brother wanting to protect Harry from him. I know there’s no like evidence or anything for that but I always thought that the wand chose Harry because it knew it needed to protect him from its brother with the whole priori incantatem thing just cause it sounds cool
My theory has always been this: Phoenixes are detached from the mortal realm. it's said as much and confirmed by JK herself. I think Fawkes, perhaps having some foreknowledge through magical means, did it just to see what would play out. Essentially, he did it for the LOLS, but knew exactly what he was doing.
Harry was pretty talented in his own right, his teachers said so, and he was way above level with certain difficult spells like the patronus charm. The part of Voldemorts soul did probably play some part, but the phoenix wand stayed his, after Voldemorts defeat. I might also be that the very balance of magic was upset by Voldemorts abuse of (dark) magic and it put Harry and the prophecy into being to counteract, with things like the twinned wand cores and Harry being the polar opposite of Voldemort.
Apart from the fact that Harry’s personality fit the type of wizard a Phoenix feather would choose, I think destiny played a role. The reason Voldemort went after Harry was because of the prophecy. So, perhaps the wand also sensed Harry’s role against Voldemort, and chose him knowing that when they finally battle it would be harder for Voldemort to harm Harry with his wand since the wands are brothers. If that makes sense.
only one issue with theory. harry defeated he-who-must-not-be-named with draco's wand since his was snapped in half in his and hermine's hasty excape from godrids hollow..
3:56 "One thing is clear...we can expect great things from you." Always loved this line, ever since it was spoken in the first movie's trailer! Also, refreshing to see how much of this conversation was adapted precisely into the movie- something that didn't happen as frequently in later installments
This is sadly plausible. Either way, Voldemort doomed himself in his attempt to avoid his downfall/death. However, if the wand wood plays a role in wizard selection then this theory cannot be the entire explanation as holly describes Harry pretty well.
I think it’s just that the fact the phoenix feather where only 2 where made The difference is the wood and and length and flexibility I think the wands in question where always opposites One craved power and was more prone to choose someone who can change the world by any means hence the yew wood given its a wood that looks for someone over life and death and length being 13 meaning it looks for much character in someone As for Harry’s wand it was more humble more or less equal to its brother but didn’t seek power or care for it and choose someone who has a journey based on spiritual path and good intentions Hence the holly wood description, and the length being 11 inch means it was looking for someone of decent character And probably choose Harry cause it now knew what’s it’s brother did and sensed Harry was it’s target Choosing harry to protect him just as it would have if longbottom was though off as the chosen one instead Both would be set on a spiritual journey with good intentions and both had decent personalities It wouldn’t choose harry based on harry being a horcux given the other aspects of the wand suggest otherwise
What I want to know is, was Voldemort's wand always so sinister looking? It's hard to imagine some young orphan boy going into Ollivander's and then getting a wand. A wand that's looking so well, frankly, evil. I'm wondering if Voldemort's wand originally looked more "normal" and much like his own body slowly transformed into the more sinister looking wand as Voldemort performed ever more increasingly dark magic. Perhaps its a topic you could discuss in a video
In one of the French fan films about Voldemort, they show the process about how his wand became that way, it’s really cool and honestly it’s already in my head as canon
Voldemort’s wand changed in appearance along with him when he made his Horcruxes. The more Horcruxes Voldemort made, the more his appearance changed. This is because making Horcruxes (as we know) split the soul apart and it had negative affects on Voldemort’s appearance because he’d split his soul so many times.
There are 2 major points against the idea that Harry Potter was only great because of the piece of Voldermort's soul inside him. 1. his mother is one of the greatest potioneers Slughorn ever had the privilege of teaching. and was both talented and POWERFUL with magic beyond potions. there's a reason Harry is attracted to Ginny. Just 1 single Reducto curse from Ginny brought down the Hall Of Prophecy. Lily Potter's sacrifice was powerful enough to protect Harry from Voldermort's Killing Curse. I think Harry is attracted to Ginny because her power is familiar to him (because Ginny's power is comparable to Lily's power). 2. he is a Potter. his father was excellent at Quidditch, but even more impressively... James became an Animagus without being guided thru the process by an Animagus... as a child! fully grown and fully trained adult wizards with Animagus guides have had terrible accidents when attempting to become Animagi. it's just that difficult. All of The Marauders were exceptionally powerful, not just because 3 of them became Animagi as children, but also because the 4 of them created the Marauder's Map together. That map is essentially on par with most ancient magical relics and icons. Extremely impressive. Harry and James Potter are NOT the only impressive Potters. Their last name has an origin. Linfred of Stinchcombe AKA "The Potterer" invented many medicinal potions including early versions of Skele-gro and Pepperup Potion. ...emphasis on regrowing bones back... Fleamont Potter, Harry's grandpa, was also a potterer and invented Sleekeazy's Hair Potion (sure, less important than a potion that regrows bones, but still impressive). Between Linfred "The Potterer", Fleamont Potter, and Lily Evans... I'm beginning to wonder if Harry would have been Outstanding at Potions even before getting the Half-Blood Prince's book if Snape had not mistreated him. Linfred's son, Hardwin Potter, married Iolanthe Peverell... ...the granddaughter of Ignotus Peverell, who either created The Cloak Of Invisibility (while there are other invisibility cloaks, all of them lose their ability over time... except this one), or received it from Death personified... after besting Death personified... the point of all this is that Harry has power and greatness from both his mom and his dad. remember that Voldemort can't produce a Patronus. Harry's fully formed and powerful Patronus (as a child!) is NOT because he has a piece of Voldermort's soul inside him. it's because he is the child of 2 very powerful magic users. all that being said... I do believe Fawkes' feather chose Harry because Voldemort chose Harry. If Voldemort has chosen Neville, then Fawkes' feather would have chosen Neville. but NOT because of the greatness that a piece of Voldemort's soul imbues... ...but because Phoenixes represent death and rebirth. Voldemort is death. the one he chooses to mark as his equal is rebirth... death's undoing... the Phoenix's first feather chose Tom Riddle... it did not choose Voldemort... the other feather chose Voldemort's undoing... to right the wrong... ...to bring life where Voldemort misused the first feather to bring death.
Even if Harry was only chosen because of the Horcrux, the wood plays a part. If both yew and holly are symbols of immortality, yew (Voldemort) is viewed as a symbol of doom and holly (Harry) as symbol of evergreen, everlasting life and rebirth. Add to the equation loyalty to Dumbledore. It would be interesting to know if both wands were twins made at the same time or if Harry's wand was made later on as a "counterevil" to its brother.
Hmm i reasoned this way as well but its called the twin cores after all so i think its made together, however i think it makes you're reason even more pluasible as the one feather was made the other was too to balance the equation almost like an Ying yang effect
I think you’re absolutely right. The prophecy was that Riddle would mark a child as his equal. Voldemort selected the other for Harry to be great. Whomever he chose (for example Neville) would likely have gone the same route.
Remember Malfoy never had his wand choose him, his mom bought his wand for him. After Harry wrestled Malfoy's wand away it started serving Harry. The problem is Malfoy's wand had a unicorn hair string core and stay very loyal to their original owner yet it switched allegiances to Potter. Because that wand was never truly Malfoy's, it was Harry's from the very beginning. Now however Malfoy himself became a very talented wizard despite using a wand that was never truly his.
There was another theory I watched that goes like this: (if I can summarize it correctly) Fawks being a Phoenix, can be reborn, it may be possible that the Fawks that gave the wand core for Voldemort’s wand and the Fawks that gave the core for Harry’s wand could be the same bird, just at a different stage of life. It could also mean that the Fawks that gave the core to Voldemort may have a different personality to the Fawks that gave to Harry.. Voldemort’s core was from Fawks who maybe valued power more than Harry’s core, and Harry’s core values love more… I hope I summoned it correctly…
yes, same pheonix, just that for example, voldermorts feather was before the pheonix burned to ash whilst harry feather was after the pheonix burned and rose from rebirth.. that's the theory@@protipskiptoendofvideoandr286
I really appreciate your deep dives into the world of Harry Potter! This has to be one of my favorites. So interesting to learn details about wands and Mr. Ollivander. Thanks for your amazing details!
You initially stated that the wand chose young Tom Riddle because he had not yet been twisted/corrupted but was still full of potential to good. You said that you believed older Tom/Voldy would not have been chosen. The part of Voldemort that is inside of Harry's scar wouldn't have been chosen by this logic. I believe that the wand saw Harry's soul/spirit/potential and chose him based on this just like it chose Tom before he perverted himself.
I agree, in a sense he kind of backtrack there, because it was proven in Chamber of Secret that all of Tom souls are automatically evil, so if it sense tom soul in Harry, than the Wand wouldn't have chosen Harry, because that soul is corrupt with evil, so really The wand chose Harry Himself, not because of the prophecy or his connection with Voldy, So really even if Voldy didn't choose him it more likely he would still get the same wand, as not all children got the same wand as their parents
I would like to point out that, after Harry repaired his phoenix wand with the elder wand, his wand sort of re-chose him (feeling warm to his fingers and emitting sparks) even after Voldemort's soul was removed and destroyed. Therefore, I don't think the wand chose Harry because of Tom Riddle
We know that Nevil could have just as easily been "The chosen one" because he met all the same requirements of the prophesy. So if Tom had chosen Nevil then he still would have been defeated and I think that the wand that chose harry would have chosen him instead because the wand turned out to be a very important part of the whole puzzle. It follows then that yes, the wand likely was pulled to Harry only because of Tom's splintered soul embedded in him. I think though that it was likely attracted so it could help "the chosen one" to defeat the other wand and redeem the folly of the choice made by the other wand.
No, he wouldn't have defeated him because Voldemort wouldn't have given Neville's parents the option to survive. What really caused Voldemort to be defeated was Harry's mother's sacrifice. Snape asked Voldemort to spare her and because of that, Voldemort gave her the choice to survive but even so she chose to save her son's life, this protected Harry and caused the killing curse to ricochet. Voldemort had no reason to spare anyone in Neville's family, so Neville would have died even if Voldemort had gone after him. The prophecy could only have referred to Harry.
People say this because harry thinks it in a moment of reflection and sadness.....but its DEFINITELY not true though. You're totally ignoring the fact of the ONLY thing that saved harry from the curse was the ancient love sacrifice magic from his mother when she refused to step aside and actively chose to give her own life for his. You're also forgetting about snape.......think for a second how crucial snape was to dumbledore, the resistance, and the success of dumbledores plan with harry. He was in love with lily, and the moment he learned of her murder (despite his begging for her to be spared) was the moment voldemort lost him forever. Snape gave dumbledore crucial intel, played the role of double agent and then later when voldy came back played the role of triple agent. He kept both harry and dumbledore alive at different points (think how he counteracted quirrell or saved dumbledore from the curse). He swapped griffindores sword out for a fake and guided harry to the real one to finish destroying horcruxes. He took the unbreakable vow to kill dumbledore in malfoys place and informed dumbledore of everything...which lead to the misinformation that voldy believed snape was master of the elder wand instead of draco....and on his death he provided harry with the final pieces of the puzzle to know what had to happen next for dumbledores plan to work (ie the same ancient sacrificial magic lily made for harry, harry had to make in the forrest, which was why harry was able to come back and why voldemorts magic was no longer as effective anymore.) Neville simply didnt have these circumstances surrounding him. Snape was not in love with alice. He was not begging for alice's life and vowing to destroy voldemort on her behalf...voldy was never even giving her the option of choosing to sacrifice herself because of that...there was no snape (his favourite) to ask this. So she would have died instantly in the way james did....and so would neville.... It could only ever have been harry.
Always thought it was interesting how Harry breaks the Elder Wand in the movies but in the books he keeps it safeguarded, saying if he dies a natural death then it will break the vicious cycle because he will have never been defeated.
Yes, and the absolute madlad runs off to become an Auror, whose entire job is to confront powerful Dark Wizards. Brains like that, he could've been a Death Eater, as Aberforth seemed fond of saying. Maybe we should be laying these little idiocies at the doorstep of Rowling herself. I'm sure her "Oh, my Math!" deficiency extends to basic logic too.
Here is my theory, I think the Phoenix wands are both good spirited initially, they saw in both Harry, and Voldemort wizards who would rise from ashes and achieve greatness, and have their name forever known however I think the wands wanted this to be for the greater good, but voldemorts wand slowly through corruption and dark magic seeked only power and due to a dog like loyalty (which phoenixes though independent seem very loyal as seen why they stick around Dumbledores) allowed corruption, while the brother seeked the same but had a loyalty to good that was not corrupted, if the wand favored Voldemort despite the horxcruz I don't think it would choose the boy who may one day defeat him, I believe Harry's wand never became corrupted such as riddles wand
I appreciate that this channel has strived to tackle the more difficult topics for Harry Potter than most other HP content creators. Bravo mate, keep up the hard work
Honestly I always kinda had that theory in my head too. The only reason that the Phoenix feather wand chose Harry was because of the piece of Voldemort inside of him. I feel it goes back to the prophecy too. Like the wand chose him because Voldemort chose his family in a way. Which means if you ask me if Voldemort went after the Longbottoms instead and Neville’s mother did the same as Harry’s and sacrifice herself to save him… Neville would’ve lived and HE would have a the Phoenix core. In the end Like you said the only reason Harry or Neville would have been a huge deal is because of Tom Riddle.
Perhaps my theory is that the brother feather chose Harry because it sensed its wand was the best way Harry could duel with the other feather owner. So in a way, since the other feather was possessed by Voldemort, its Brother feather chose Harry because Harry's counterpart had its counterpart. That way the wand chose to help Harry be on equal playing field as much as it could
I don't think it really matters if the phoenix feather chose someone evil. It's simply that Voldemort is unique and powerful, so it fits him. Just because fawkes is good doesn't mean the feather will choose someone good.
I never questioned why Harry got his wand. I always assumed it was because of his connection to Voldemort. Watching the first movie in 2001 I assumed a magical connection due to the scar, the. We learned of the prophecy & Voldemort’s soul inside Harry & that cemented my belief that Harry got the wand due to his connection to Voldemort. However I don’t think he would have got the wand if he had never been picked on that fateful night in godric’s hollow.
I like the idea of Harry only being as great as he is because of Voldemort. That he isn't this inexplicably great-at-everything anime type protagonist, but that he was merely what he was because of his nemesis. It makes both Harry and Voldemort unique from other heroes and villains, Voldemort having put his own end in motion and being the root cause of what he so feared.
I feel like this theory holds less ground than many others because if it's basis for choosing Harry was the attraction to voldemort, it could also be inferred that after the events of the 7th book it would no longer work for Harry as he no longer had that fragment of voldemorts soul
I don't think Harry's wand only chose him because of the horcrux. Holly wood suits him very well, so i think it chose him because it suits him, not because of Voldemorts part in Harry
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I would say a mix. He was the son of 2 incredibly talented and powerful people. Raised right he would come into his potential much sooner. Yet it can't be denied that Voldemort did indeed give him power of sorts that night.
It makes sense that Harry's wand attaches itself to the part of Voldemort inside him as this storyline forms the backbone to the whole series. Other explanations require dovetailing into the storyline or some speculation.
Starting from the premise that the wand chose young Riddle but wouldn't have chosen adult Voldemort, you could speculate the wand served Voldemort less willingly than it had served Riddle. Then, suppose that when Voldemort tried to kill baby Harry, the wand sensed in Harry what had bonded it to Riddle in the beginning, and in a way facilitated the soul transfer that made Harry a horcrux, in a sense making Harry another young Tom?
It still wouldn't work as the part of tom soul in harry is still evil (which shown in Chamber of secret, that all of Tom souls was evil), so really it wasn't Tom the feather/wand sense but Harry himself, if we go by HP theory, Also HP theory forgot that kid Tom wasn't innocent as he started down the dark path in the orphanage, as he stole things, hurt people and things like that, so even if Dumbledore try to help Tom the boy was actually at the point of no return when they met. Remember Tom don't know love, as he wasn't born out of love but more like faux love as his mother use a love potion on his father, now the one soul of Voldemort that came close to know anything about love was the one in Harry and as we saw in the deathly Hollow, it was on the verge of death because it got hit with the killing curse, however it was also small and frail probably due to that fact it wasn't used to the amount of love that Harry have and had been given, after all it because of that same love that Voldemort couldn't possess Harry.
I love this idea, and Fawkes affinity for Harry would even make sense. If he can sense Harry's devotion to Dumbledore, could if have been partially because of Harry's wand? Dumbledore himself kinda tells us the only reason Harry is important is because Voldy chose to believe the prophecy, and the prophecy does say that by marking Harry he will give Harry the tools to defend himself... So the wand would be one of those right?
I always believed that the holly wand knew that its brother attacked Harry and knew it could happen again and so chose Harry to save him from another strike.
Imagine a wand made from the wood of whomping willow. I wonder what it's properties would be and would it be powerful, or maybe possibly harmful to its owner
I am curious of what would happen if you turned a Phoenix into a Horcrux. I mean if the Phoenix was killed would that part of the Soul die or would it never die because the Phoenix is basically immortal. Maybe Folklore could answer this.
There are things greater than power. Greatness can be shown through love, loyalty, bravery, knowledge, ambition. Harry was not born great, he chose to be great just like he chose with the sorting hat. He learned from the love of the people around him and proved his greatness by trial. Yes, Voldemort was powerful and great in his power, but Harry was great in a power that Voldemort knows not. The Phoenix gave an opportunity, the opportunity of choice is beyond power.
I tend to think of the magical item in a wand the way one thinks of DNA contribution to a child. A wand doesn’t become semi-sentient until it is combined with a magic wand wood. I image that this combining is something magical rather than just cutting a hole in the center of a stick. Otherwise, there would be more 11 year olds with broken wands. Once a core is combined with the wood, it becomes a semi-sentient object separate from and only partially like its “parent.” It’s also important to realize that while the wands share a core they do not share woods and those two woods have very different affinities. Two puppies that have the same father can be very different dogs and like very different people. There have been criminals that had loyal pets. Wands aren’t more aware of the goodness of a person than a pet just if it likes the witch or wizard holding it. The snatcher’s wand doesn’t like Harry, but Draco’s wand does. Who knows why really, other than ‘the wand chooses the wizard.’ Ollivander and Dumbledore are fully sentient beings, so why given what they know do they do what they do? Dumbledore is easy, he believes in second chances, gives them where many others would not. He doesn’t write off Tom at eleven as incapable of good and he doesn’t write off Snape who is a death eater at the time. A better question is why does Ollivander make a wand (Yew & Phoenix feather) with such an affinity for a powerful dark wizard. I think ultimately it’s because Ollivander is a neutral academic character. Before this Ollivander (sorry forgot his first name), people could come into the shop with an object they wanted used as a core or demanding/refusing a particular wood. Ollivander considered this to be “unscientific” wand lore and was willing to do some experimenting with wands and their owners. There is some indication in GoF that Ollivander may be the only wand maker insisting on letting the wand choose the wizard. We know at the time of GoF, some wand makers still make wand cores of other things than Ollivander’s chosen three. Ollivander makes the Holly wand because it is an “usual combination.” He makes the Yew wand because he knows it will be powerful but doesn’t really believe the ‘old wives tales’ of it’s ease of being turned to dark magic until Tom becomes Voldemort. Those are my thoughts. What do you think?
Voldemort made Harry significant when he chose to attack him. Remember that the prophecy said that the "Dark Lord shall mark him as his equal." Voldemort set the ball rollinh to connect him and Harry. Harry completed the connection by choosing to be the one to defeat Voldemort. Dumbledore explained that it's the difference between being dragged into battle and walking in with your head held high. Connected by coincidence/fate but intertwined by choice.
Plot armour or plot coincidences. The wand chooses the wizard even more so after the battle of Hogwarts and Voldemorts final defeat. The wand still chose Harry.
The theory you posed occurred to me as well, but the question you ended on... I think he Still would've been "Destined For Greatness", even if Voldemort hadn't inadvertently made Harry one of his horcruxes because: A) Both of his parents were Extraordinary. B) If Voldemort either hadn't known of Harry's destiny or chose Not to Hunt & Kill the 3 of them, Harry would've Still been destined to face him. C) Some things are Fated, and thus, Inescapable. Love your videos, dude!
I have a couple of theories for you. One has been said a few times in the past, but I've only seen short one liners about it. Voldemort, Snape and Harry are like the three brothers..... I would expand it to say they are not just like the Three brothers but ARE the decedents of the three brothers. Voldemort being the first brothers descendent, Snape being the Second Brothers Descendent, and Harry being the Thrid Brothers Descendent (As we already know he is do to the cloak being passed down through the generations of the thirds descendants).Look at how similar they are to the three brothers. First Brother and Voldemort are both Combative men, willing to go out of their way just to best someone that has slighted them in the past. Second Brother and Snape, Both lost their great love, lived on and eventually died thinking about their love, Why Snape asked Harry to look at him so he could look into Lilly's eyes as he died. Third Brother and Harry both just want to skate under the radar not wanting Fame or anything like that but to just live a long and normal life. Voldemort and Dumbledore are actually related. We know Tom Riddle is the last of the Gaunts or is he? Isolde One of the founders of Illvormorny was the daughter of a member of the Gaunt family, Her Mother. Isolde later had two daughters, one was a Witch and one a Squib. Her Squib daughter married her best friends brother, a Native American. When Harry sees Kendra's Photo he says she looks like she could be of Native American decent. If she is then why not have her mother be the descendent of Isolde, making Dumbledore and Voldemort related. This could also make him a descendant of the first brother and would explain his love for power as well.
Great video but this is the first one that I disagree with. Your views that Phoenix chose both Voldemort and Harry because they were both exceptionally great wizards and would do amazing things and also the other view that it only picked Harry because a piece of Voldemort was inside of him I disagree…the real reason is because Phoenix knew the future in that Harry would need that phoenix feather in order to defeat Voldemort it protects him as they have the same core It chose Harry for a reason and that reason is to fight evil with good to defeat Voldemort by having the same wand core
I think it's because of Baltimore but what I think is because yes the phoenix feather did choose Tom Riddle others years ago and once he turned evil the phoenix feather realized what a mistake it had made and realized that Harry was the one that was going to defeat him when Harry went into buy his wand so yes and no I think if Voldemort hadn't done what he did Harry Potter would not have been bound for greatness he would have been a good wizard but that's about it I think that because the one sensible the more and Harry he knew it would be the only way he can make up for the mistake
Exactly the points I was thinking. The orphan theory, the horcrux theory too. You make an interesting point about "not destined for greatness at all". I wonder if the holly wand would have chosen Neville if it had been him in Harry's position.
Well he was destined for the phoenix feather to start with because of his pure heart vs voldermort and the prophecy stated that he had to die to live but in the end it was only meant to be a temporary wand while at hogwarts, after hogwarts he was destined for the elder wand but didn't want the power and settled for the one he won for draco
One question is why did so many other wands not choose him? Harry went thru alot of wands and none worked for him. Is that normal? Only one wand chooses the wizard?
I feel that since phoenixes are a symbol of death and rebirth, Harry's phoenix feather may have been looking for someone to be the light against Voldemort's darkness. Like it was trying to "bring balance to the force" harry potter style. Life(harry) and death(voldemort), light and dark, good and evil, yang and yin. It even goes down to their wand wood types. In ancient druidic traditions, Holly wood(Harry's wand) was associated with life and growth, while Yew(Voldemort's wand) is associated with death and resurrection in Celtic culture.
This is a great example of living up to expectations. No matter if the wand picked Harry because of his affinity with Valdemort, the mere fact that everyone, to include Olivander, told Harry he was destined to do great things led him to believe he COULD do great things. And so he did.
The one thing I’m unsure if people remember is that Harry and Voldemort are so alike but it was one choice that made them different. To love… or to hate. Voldemort gave into fear and sought power to to make others fear him. He was alone. Harry chose love and friendship and because of that was never alone once he found Hogwarts . I think the wands saw the potential they both had but it was the choices that made them different. However we also have to remember that Voldemort chose Harry. It easily could have been Neville. But Voldemort went after Harry and his parents. He marked him as his equal and that changed the way everything played out didn’t it.
I completely agree with the Voldemort theory but regarding Harry; yes, he was in a way 'pushed' to do great things as a wizard because he had to battle Voldemort to save his own life. And yes, his fame came from the manifestation of Voldemort's advanced dark magic that left Harry the scar. People thought it was his deed when in fact it was Lily's magic that made all the situation that took place possible (Harry's survival due to her protection and the involuntary horcrux made because the killing curse bounced). But let's not forget, although i do agree that the wand chose Harry because of Voldemort's soul inside of him; Harry's bravery was what made him duel with Voldemort all those numerous occasions. He didn't know the complexity that magic could offer, yet he never feared saying his name and was always willing to fight him. He learned advanced magic because of the danger Voldemort put him through, yes, but he was able to learn them being so young and inexperienced, so that's talent. A talent which combined with destiny, made him great. Maybe the phoenix feather had forsee Harry's potential to greatness and also sensed his propensity to thrive.
The issue of the wand choosing the witch or wizard has always bothered me for years with the HP universe because if Olivander doesn't know which wand it is unless via good luck or good guess especially with that very large stash that he possess in his shop then any hogwarts student may end up turning up late for their enrollment won't they
I always go by 2 theory: 1/ it choose the person who will be the greatest wizard for that time. We could see that both Voldemort and Harry are so similar in everythings. It's just that Voldemort chose to revenge and conquer the world, while Harry chose to protect. 2/Maybe both wands are like Yin and Yang. The phoenix produced both wands, knowing that one of it will fall into a hand of a villain so the other wand has to fall into a Hero's hand.
I kind of agree, but differ slightly from your conclusion. It was not because of Voldemort exactly or precisely that Harry was destined for greatness. It was the prophecy that was made by Sybil Trelawney that did that, but only because Voldemort acted upon her words that was relayed to him by Severus Snape, remember the conversation dumbledore has with harry in the HBP, in the Headmasters office. "He did not hear the full wording of the prophecy, and thus did not know there might be danger in attacking you, or risk transferring some of his power to you, which indeed happened". This last part is the crucial part of what Dumbledore said, "or risk transferring some of his power to you", it is perhaps this power that the core sensed and chose Harry, although this part of Voldemort's magic certainly was powerful, it was not inherently evil. But this was not the magic sensed the phoenix feather sensed, it felt something much much more powerful, Harry had very powerful ancient magic of his own, that was passed on by his mother when Voldemort killed her, so powerful that it could resist the lure of power of Voldemort, this magic is so powerful that Voldemort could not even touch him without being mortally wounded, and that power is love, greater and more powerful than any magic that Voldemort had ever produced, and that is why Harry was destined for greatness.
Several points: 1. Holly, an evergreen is associated with life. Holly symbolizes peace and goodwill, and also protects against evil spirits and bad luck. While the berries cause vomiting they are not fatally poisonous. Holly wood is white symbolizing purity. Harry, like Sir Galahad, is pure in heart. 2. Yew is fatally poisonous in wood, leaves and berries. It was associated with Hecate, the goddess of witchcraft, necromancy, and death. It was seen as an omen of doom and was planted in cemeteries. I wonder why Olivander would use yew in wands at all!
I think the Phoenix feather sensed goodness and greatness in Harry. It wanted to defeat the evil that it was previously given feather wielded. Much like The Sorting Hat's decision.
I‘d be interested in a Video about the particular properties of the different wand cores. The known ones. Unicorn hair, phoenix feather, dragon heart string, … are there some more known? Stuff like, as you mentioned here ‘Phoenix feathers are capable of the greatest range of magic […] etc.’ That’d be really interesting. 😊 Thank you so much for your resources and efforts. I really appreciate it! Your videos are great! :)
If it were true that the wand chose Harry because of the piece of Voldemort inside him then the plot in the 7th book wouldn’t have worked with the elder wands allegiance or all the other Wands allegiances that Harry ganged at malfoy manor.
By the time Harry got his wand, he was already the chosen one. He became the CO when V selected him instead of Neville, when a one year old baby, as the person in the prophesy. It is Voldemort not Harry’s wand, that made him important. Just re-re-… reading Order of the Phoenix and in it, the phoenix twice leaves a feather as a message. Surely such feathers could be used as wand cores?
or maybe.... harry needed plot armour? but dumblydore did say he has some qualities in common with tom riddle but I think the wand Is a perfect symbolism to how you can have things in common but yet be different because of the choices you make, with their wands having the same core but different wood.
There's one thing that instantly disproves this theory. It's that when the horcrux was removed from Harry and the holly wand was repaired, Harry was still it's master. Whilst the Elder wand changes master to whoever beats it's previous ones, phoenix wands are more loyal, so the fact that the Holly wand's power didn't disappear with the horcrux means that you've gone in the wrong direction. I think it would be more suitable to say Fawkes is a bit like Dumbledore. In its early days it chose power and glory - Tom Riddle. In it's later days it chose love and compassion - Harry.
I like the idea of Phoenix feather’s significance after FB:SOD The Phoenix follows a dying dumbledore…’I’ve seen the signs’-Dumbledore Tom was discovered while he was still young whereas creedance was forced to conceal via obscurial for many years To avoid seeing that happen again the Phoenix feathers were meant for someone who grew up parentless and not knowing their place in the world Prediction: The feathers will be revealed when creedance finally passes A feather for Ariana and one for creedance.
Harry has all mental qualities of a hero, so no, let’s not trust Snape’s abusive words, he was psychologically mightier than the majority of others. Maybe because of his heritage, especially mother’s, but just in fact. And one important note - after his first death in the Forbidden Forest he couldn’t speak Parseltongue anymore, yet the only problem with his wand was that it was broken.
Other than through lineage, Voldemort (Tom Riddle) had very little of himself in Harry - after all a few important details occurred before Harry even attended Hogwarts. The first being that that the wands already had the tail feathers in them. Secondly, Tom Riddle knew that he could only split himself a certain number of times - which he had done prior to trying to kill the whole Potter family. And lastly, Dumbledore pointed out that Lilly's unconditional love for Harry, kept Voldemort from killing him that fateful night. It is then fair to say, that having Harry try several other wands prior to the Holly/Phoenix 11" wand, none of the others were suitable to fill the wizarding needs Harry would have in the coming years against Voldemort / Tom Riddle. It KNEW Harry was deemed for greatness, because only Harry's wand could deflect / defeat Voldemort's wand from the damage it had done for years before Harry finally arrived at Olivander's Wand shoppe, and Hogwarts.
I believe this video is exactly correct. I thought of this idea as well: the only reason that the wand with a feather of the same Pheonix as Voldemort’s wand chose Harry was because of their connection. The fact that Harry was a Hormuz of Voldemort’s made them similar in ways beyond their control. But of course, unlike Voldemort, Harry wasn’t a killer and was good in nature. Like Dumbledore said in Chamber of Secrets: It’s not our abilities that show who we are are. It’s our choices.
Part of me thinks that Harry’s wand chose him for a few reasons (some cannon, some not). I do believe that naturally the world wants to keep balance with itself. Being that Voldemort committed many atrocities and great evil with his wand, the world using Sibil foretold Voldemort’s downfall by Harry (I don’t remember the prophecy off the top of my head) and part of that required the brother wand to be destined for Harry, the fact that Fawkes only ever gave two feathers could be a sign of that balance too. The other reason the wand could have chose Harry was because of the magic of love that was cast about him the night his parents died.
I think the feather core latching onto Voldemort's soul in Harry makes sense, but contradicts with you saying the phoenix core would not have chosen an adult Voldemort. The piece of his soul inside Harry was from the height of his power and horrific deeds. Keep in mind that Fawkes is not the same being as semi-sentient wands made from his feathers, and Phoenix's are typically more detached beings. Fawkes likely was only very helpful throughout the series due to his bond with Dumbledore. I doubt the wand cores have much sense of morality, or else it would likely be difficult for people from purist pure blood families (essentially future death eaters) to even get wands. The wand cores care more about a match in personality and inherent traits rather than morality itself. I do think Harry's wand could sense his horcrux though like you say, and likely his own innate power as well as his important fate.
Odd how no one commented on the one thing that truly makes the two wands "polar" opposites, a pole being a single object in which the magnetic charges have been repulsed to the maximum distance from one another. The power source itself, the feather, is neutral, neither good nor evil, but capable of being used for either purpose. But the choices of wood have definite moral overtones. Holly is not a particularly strong wood, but it is extremely pale and usually described as being white. Of the timber native to the British isles, yew is both quite strong and flexible, and so dark of tone that it is often described as being black. Visually this is completely missed in the movies, but yes - Harry's wand is white, and Voldemort's is black. If you are looking for moral symbols, there's not a much clearer picture.
I've always wondered if the wand chooses the witch or wizard then why is the purchasing of one the way they receive their wand? Shouldn't it be a more ceremonious event?
I think that the idea of Harry's wand initially choosing him due to his connection to Voldemort is very plausible, but not simply because he was a horcrux. I also believe that the theory of Voldemort's wand initially choosing him because of his potential is also plausible seeing as if he had turned out differently, he could have been a great wizard and morally good wizard. Its possible that Harry's wand sensed his connection with Voldemort who wielded its twin, and initially chose him because it could sense where his destiny would lead him, that being defeating Voldemort once and for all. Dumbledore even theorized that when Harry and Voldemort first dueled, Harry's wand imbibed some of Voldemort's own power and used it against him when he tried to kill him as Hagrid was taking him to the Burrow. I believe that it was able to do this because of the fragment of Voldemort's soul that resided in Harry, allowing it to also recognize both Voldemort and the fact that he was about to try and kill Harry and acted of its own accord to protect him and destroy the wand that Voldemort was using, that being Lucius Malfoy's. The combination of the twin wand cores and the fact that Harry had a fragment of Voldemort's soul residing in him probably not only ensured that the wand would choose him but also helped him to survive against Voldemort until the time came for Harry to prove his worth on his own by defeating Voldemort once and for all when he proved that he was the master of the Elderwand. Another thing to note is that, in the book, when Harry repairs his wand using the Elderwand and takes it in his hand once more, the red and gold sparks shot out of it just like when it initially chose him. The fragment of Voldemort's soul was no longer part of him, and Voldemort was dead, which would indicate that the wand either recognized Harry as its master, or it recognized the fact that its investment in choosing Harry initially had been correct all along and chose to stick with him since he had proven his greatness with his own power.
Yes! Yes! Yes! This was the very question I have about the previous Olivander wands video!!! It's "How did the first years get their wands during Voldemort's reign? Why were they sent to Hogwarts?" video... Did the second feather chose Harry Potter because of Harry Potter? OR did it chose Harry because the feather sensed Voldemort in Harry since the first feather chose Voldemort (Tom Riddle)?
So that theory would mean, that if Voldemort would have chosen Neville and therefore making him the chosen one, the phoenix wand would have picked him? But Neville was given the wand of his father when he went to Hogwarts and got a new one just after the events in the ministry of magic. So the story would have been a lot different, because if we assume that Neville would have participated in the triwizard tournament, he wouldn't have the phoenix wand to ''protect'' him. I mean of course the events would have been different because Neville is of course another character than Harry, but this is just what came to my mind after hearing your theory (which I actually agree with).
Dumbledore found brought both voldemort and Harry into the Wizarding world. He also is the owner of fauks. He also is was a very cautious wizard whom knew many other powerful wizards. Maybe he was told by a seer about the events of voldemorte and Harry, and while not entirely believing that this was destiny, he would be cautious enough to plan for the worst. Hence he gets the Phoenix to donate 2 feathers. Gets olivander to ensure that both characters recieve said wands. Etc. Etc.
I think there is a lot more to this, and the wider wizarding lore. So hang on.... We know that both Tom and Harry were decendants of the Peverel brothers. The Peverell brothers, in my opinion, represent 3 stages of grief. All 3 of them created an item that link to death; the elder wand has a thestral hair core, the invisibility cloak (I believe) is made of Thestral hair and the resurrection stone I think is actually the representation of an Egg of Myrrh. An egg of Myrrh is believed to be created by a Phoenix after it has been reborn- by using the ashes of its Father and Myrrh. Traditionally this egg is carried to the sun city Heliopolis. Now I think that Fawkes is actually the phoenix of the Peverel brothers- don't forget that Dumbledore is also a descendant of them- and the reason that the tail feather wands choose them is that it can sense their bloodline and knows how powerful that bloodline is. Now the Peverel brothers representing stages of grief would be: The eldest creating the wand is the revenge or Anger stage as the wand could be used to exact the revenge on the owners loved one. The stone would represent bargaining or reflection. The cloak represents depression and loneliness. My thoughts are that the Peverell brothers saw someone close to them, maybe their mother or sister, killed and created these items. After the killing 2 of the brothers saw Thestrals and could sense their power and used parts of them to create their items. The 3rd brother was probably comforted by the lament of a Phoenix, which he found just before it rejuvenated itself, and it gifted him the egg of Myrrh it created. That Phoenix stayed with the brothers and later that turned into the Dumbledore family story that a Phoenix will show itself to a Dumbledore in need. I also have a suspicion that J K Rowling hinted at in the books that the invisibility cloak was made of thestral hair by the way only a select few characters were able to 'see' the invisibility cloak- all of these characters had witnessed a death of a loved one. Sorry its a long not well constructed explanation but trying it get it all out made me think further and further.
Thanks for watching folks! What do you think of this theory? Leave a comment down below!
It s a good theory
It sounds highly plausible, there is something about Voldemort that already attracted the phoenix feather once, so maybe it is this same presence that attracted the second feather? From the sounds of it, phoenixes don't shed many feathers that can be used in wandcores, so it might have been prophecy... The feathers of Fawkes would always choose Voldemort and if Voldemort wouldn't have attacked Harry and infused him with part of his soul by accident, the wand would have remained ownerless for eternity (after all, it likely remained ownerless for more than 50 years). As only one wizard was worthy of the core, nobody could claim it. Unless they were Voldemort's equal. Voldemort marked Harry as his equal, by making him part Voldemort by accident so the wand would be attracted. It also would fullfill the "marking of an equal" in the prophecy even better. Voldemort made Harry his equal enabling to gain the loyality of a wand so equal to his own... Which in turn worked with the rest of prophecy as Harry was the only one who was able to withstand Voldemort and with cores of equal origin, it made Voldemorts wand less effective to Harry.
But there is also something else, over the years, Harry did tame the wand and gained its loyality, mostly due to Harry's own loyality to his wand, compared to Voldemort. There is an interesting difference between how Harry and Voldemort treated their wand. Once Voldemort realized that his wand was less effective against Harry, he abandoned it. The first time, Harry's wand retalliated against Voldemort using a different wand, by giving him a taste of the magic he used to produce with the brother wand and later Voldemort tried to tame the Elder Wand, over his own wand. Harry however could never abandon his wand. Even as the rightful owner of the Elder Wand, he only wanted to be able to use the wand he had bought from Ollivander. He used the most powerful wand in the world to repair his old one, who couldn't be fixed by another wand. Harry showed loyality to the wand to such a degree that it no longer mattered that he no longer had a piece of Voldemort in him, the wand was now fully loyal to him.
Before watching the vid: Well done on the "(very dark)". It clickbaited me right in.
Now let's see if it was legit.
if harry wasnt destined to be the one who lived then the other one who WAS supposed to be was Neville ...
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now why couldnt the feather have desired to right a wrong and chose harry to right the wrong of giving a wand with his feather in it to one who became as evil and corrupt as could be ..
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one little bit of oversight you did ... you say a a nonmuggle must use a wand .... yet riddle was hurting people WITHOUT a wand ... a wand is NOT required ... it is a channeling device or focus ... just like a voiced incantation is NOT needed to perform a spell ...
Your voice is so perfect for HP audiobooks. Everytime you read the quotes, i feel every word!
Independently of the feather, Fawkes assisted Harry in the chamber of secrets. There was an affinity between Fawkes and Harry and, on the surface, it was a reward for Harry defending Dumbledore, but it could run deeper than that. Harry had to arise from the ashes of his early abusive childhood and also had to rise again after being struck down by Voldemorte in the forest in the deathly hallows. Fawkes likely saw a kindred spirit within Harry and his destiny.
Nice
but all that appened after the wand chose Harry. Fawkes didn't knew Harry when he went to pick his wand, and it certainly didn't knew Harry nor Tom Riddle when they plucked his feathers to make those wands
Mark Warburton I like your explanation more than I like the theory video that is the reason we both commented
@@matteobetti2233 he possibly did. For I wouldn't be surprised if Harry was in Dumbledore's office trying to figure out who to give Harry to figuring out his current relatives.
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I think its a mistake to assume wands look for "good" or "bad" people. Ollivander is an extremely good example of a true neutral character. Yes he is terrified of Voldemort, but he also shows awe at Voldemorts power. And ultimately Ollivander is most interested in wands and their magic, no matter who the wands choose. Every bit of information he gets expands his knowledge. He is truly dedicated to his craft.
Ollivander is in a way, a personification of what wands are. They are true neutral. They are a mystery how they work yes, but the wands themselves are drawn to specific types of personalities, strengths in magic and types of magic. They don't care about good or evil. If they did, wouldn't all evil characters never get a wand choosing them?
Also the series talks again and again about how similar yet different Voldemort and Harry are. They are both orphans, they don't have real family, they have known cruelty, they both called Hogwarts home, and despite Harry's connections with Voldemort, he is truly a very powerful wizard, and it is reflective of his heritage and the spells he casts.
So I think it's safe to say the wands chose the two of them due to the internal characteristics that make up the young boys, and the potential they have. Not necessarily based of any potential to be good or evil, but more so based off personalities and the magical powers within themselves.
That’s beautiful
And seems spot on, best of both worlds lol
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“We can expect great things from you. After all he who must not be named did great things, terrible, but great things”. It’s something along the lines of that I didn’t want to check it as I think it’s right, but yeah I agree.
Yeah that was a mistaken assumption from him. I don't see wands caring about how good or bad a wizard is.
I thought Tom riddle killed his parents
Harry's individual greatness is constantly at odds with his connection to Voldemort. In the beginning, one could say Harry was only significant because he was "The Boy Who Lived"; but after finishing the story, one could hardly say that Harry was not great of his own accord. He mastered multiple spells, conquered many enemies, and showed bravery unmatched by any other at his age. But above all, Harry gave love despite his life being filled with pain, death, and hate. It is this act alone that proved his greatness. When his love persevered against all the evils in the world, he achieved the pinnacle of character.
🙌 yes, the love that Harry has despite all of the horrific things that happened to him is also what makes him great.
pain can make us great, ying and yang. Voldemort defined Harry's path. I believe Harry on his own would have been another spoiled rich and avg wizard. But, Voldemort and Harry's friends and professors affected his choices and growth towards greatness.
what? lmao harry was a pretty pathetic wizard all the way through. Consider his father, James Potter was an animagous by fifth year and created the marauders map with his friends. Harry at this time had just learned the stunning spell. Couldnt even do nonverbal spells. Completely failed at learning occlumency etc.
@@geocaching69 This comment totally missed the point of what I wrote. The entire idea is that he is great because of his personality traits, not his power. Which is one of the key elements of the novels.
@@geocaching69 Harry his father was an exceptional wizard. what you are saying is the same as saying all physicists are pathetic because they aren't as great as Steven Hawkins. Harry wasn't a "pathetic" wizard just not as exceptional as his father.
The book is very explicit about this. When Voldemort tried to kill Harry he made Harry the one to fulfill the prophecy that would lead to his doom. Had he chosen another, such as Neville, that person would be the one to fulfill the prophecy and therefore, most likely, have had the phoenix feather want - and Harry, meanwhile, would probably have had a wand similar to that of his father or mother.
Given that, it is very clear that the wand chose Harry because it senses Tom Riddle, but it is also clear that, by the end of the books, the wand had long since changed its allegiance from Tom Riddle to Harry himself, as it embraces him fully after being repaired with the Elder Wand despite the fact that Voldemort's Horcrux was no longer in Harry; why? Because Harry proved himself great in his trials against Voldemort, earning the wand's respect if he hadn't it already.
I was about to say the same thing. But I also think Fwakes chose harry for his own talent too. Harry felt the same warmth after he repaired the wand as he did the first time. So I disagree that Fwakes chose harry just because of voldemort's soul. Harry was magically endowed just not in way voldemort was. They both had same ancestors for starters.
@@priyadarshinithakur2546 actually they have not, harry is not a descendant of Salazar. Tom riddle it is.
@@deliorgaiulian8072 but they both are descendants of peverall family..furthermore Harry became the true owner of all three hallows hence master of death, something voldemort is incapable of.
@@deliorgaiulian8072 harry is the heir of invisibility cloak and tom elder wnad
@@Sa-wh2xk yes. Harry is the decendant of the third brother, Ignotus, making him the owner of the invisibility cloak. Tom Riddle however isn't a decendant of the first brother but of the second brother. Therefore, Tom is the owner of the second brother's Resurrection Stone. Not the Elder wand.
I have always figured that the reason why the wand choose Harry was because He lived through the killing curse cast from Voldemorts wand. As the two wands are brothers, Harry’s wand chose him because he bested Voldemort. Following the wand lore of the elder wand, that wand Aligned itself to Harry.
Dis you just assume the wands gender?
I would agree. The vid was very good but in a way contradicted itself. He said that as Voldemort the wand would not have chosen him. It chose him as Tom Riddle for his potential and power. The parasite in Harry was Voldemort not Tom Riddle. The wand would have sensed that Harry was touched by a powerful dark curse but was alive. It would have sensed power in him and potential as well. We can say because of Voldemort's actions, Harry was chosen but I dont agree that because a piece of Voldemort was in Harry that the wand chose him.
@@jamescunningham1844 Really? 🙄
I really like that explanation! Thank you
Harry is also descended from Ignotus Peverell so why wouldn't he be destined for great things? We know he's one of the prophecy choices, and becomes the Chosen one *because* voldy chose him and not Neville. Multiple times Harry performed magic that was above his age level. I really can't agree with the dark side of why this wand would have chosen him. He was the antithesis of voldemort. Good against evil. Selfless against selfish. Powerful and yeah, heroic. Ultimately, in this story good triumphs over evil, and that wouldn't have been possible if the wand chose Harry for wicked reasons.
My head cannon was that when Voldemort tried to kill him with the wand and failed, the magic kind of punished him for his hubris and in the same way Lily’s love protected Harry from Voldemort’s killing curse, his willingness to leave behind his humanity lead to his wand’s brother wanting to protect Harry from him. I know there’s no like evidence or anything for that but I always thought that the wand chose Harry because it knew it needed to protect him from its brother with the whole priori incantatem thing just cause it sounds cool
My theory has always been this: Phoenixes are detached from the mortal realm. it's said as much and confirmed by JK herself. I think Fawkes, perhaps having some foreknowledge through magical means, did it just to see what would play out. Essentially, he did it for the LOLS, but knew exactly what he was doing.
Harry was pretty talented in his own right, his teachers said so, and he was way above level with certain difficult spells like the patronus charm. The part of Voldemorts soul did probably play some part, but the phoenix wand stayed his, after Voldemorts defeat.
I might also be that the very balance of magic was upset by Voldemorts abuse of (dark) magic and it put Harry and the prophecy into being to counteract, with things like the twinned wand cores and Harry being the polar opposite of Voldemort.
Apart from the fact that Harry’s personality fit the type of wizard a Phoenix feather would choose, I think destiny played a role. The reason Voldemort went after Harry was because of the prophecy. So, perhaps the wand also sensed Harry’s role against Voldemort, and chose him knowing that when they finally battle it would be harder for Voldemort to harm Harry with his wand since the wands are brothers. If that makes sense.
Agreed
only one issue with theory. harry defeated he-who-must-not-be-named with draco's wand since his was snapped in half in his and hermine's hasty excape from godrids hollow..
@@davidnone-ya9316Well technically Draco’s wand didn’t defeat him, instead Lily’s protection deflected the killing curse back at him
3:56 "One thing is clear...we can expect great things from you." Always loved this line, ever since it was spoken in the first movie's trailer! Also, refreshing to see how much of this conversation was adapted precisely into the movie- something that didn't happen as frequently in later installments
I feel that death and rebirth was such a strong destiny for Voldemort and Harry that maybe that could have a connection between Fawkes.
This is sadly plausible. Either way, Voldemort doomed himself in his attempt to avoid his downfall/death. However, if the wand wood plays a role in wizard selection then this theory cannot be the entire explanation as holly describes Harry pretty well.
I think it’s just that the fact the phoenix feather where only 2 where made
The difference is the wood and and length and flexibility
I think the wands in question where always opposites
One craved power and was more prone to choose someone who can change the world by any means hence the yew wood given its a wood that looks for someone over life and death and length being 13 meaning it looks for much character in someone
As for Harry’s wand it was more humble more or less equal to its brother but didn’t seek power or care for it and choose someone who has a journey based on spiritual path and good intentions
Hence the holly wood description, and the length being 11 inch means it was looking for someone of decent character
And probably choose Harry cause it now knew what’s it’s brother did and sensed Harry was it’s target
Choosing harry to protect him just as it would have if longbottom was though off as the chosen one instead
Both would be set on a spiritual journey with good intentions and both had decent personalities
It wouldn’t choose harry based on harry being a horcux given the other aspects of the wand suggest otherwise
What I want to know is, was Voldemort's wand always so sinister looking? It's hard to imagine some young orphan boy going into Ollivander's and then getting a wand. A wand that's looking so well, frankly, evil. I'm wondering if Voldemort's wand originally looked more "normal" and much like his own body slowly transformed into the more sinister looking wand as Voldemort performed ever more increasingly dark magic. Perhaps its a topic you could discuss in a video
I like the theory...
In one of the French fan films about Voldemort, they show the process about how his wand became that way, it’s really cool and honestly it’s already in my head as canon
@@mikaelamilazzo5070 sooo, can you tell us?
in rhe movie flashbacks you can actually see that his wand looked different in his school days so that theory cant be that far off
Voldemort’s wand changed in appearance along with him when he made his Horcruxes. The more Horcruxes Voldemort made, the more his appearance changed. This is because making Horcruxes (as we know) split the soul apart and it had negative affects on Voldemort’s appearance because he’d split his soul so many times.
There are 2 major points against the idea that Harry Potter was only great because of the piece of Voldermort's soul inside him.
1. his mother is one of the greatest potioneers Slughorn ever had the privilege of teaching.
and was both talented and POWERFUL with magic beyond potions.
there's a reason Harry is attracted to Ginny.
Just 1 single Reducto curse from Ginny brought down the Hall Of Prophecy.
Lily Potter's sacrifice was powerful enough to protect Harry from Voldermort's Killing Curse.
I think Harry is attracted to Ginny because her power is familiar to him (because Ginny's power is comparable to Lily's power).
2. he is a Potter.
his father was excellent at Quidditch,
but even more impressively... James became an Animagus without being guided thru the process by an Animagus... as a child!
fully grown and fully trained adult wizards with Animagus guides have had terrible accidents when attempting to become Animagi.
it's just that difficult.
All of The Marauders were exceptionally powerful, not just because 3 of them became Animagi as children, but also because the 4 of them created the Marauder's Map together. That map is essentially on par with most ancient magical relics and icons. Extremely impressive.
Harry and James Potter are NOT the only impressive Potters.
Their last name has an origin.
Linfred of Stinchcombe AKA "The Potterer" invented many medicinal potions including early versions of Skele-gro and Pepperup Potion.
...emphasis on regrowing bones back...
Fleamont Potter, Harry's grandpa, was also a potterer and invented Sleekeazy's Hair Potion (sure, less important than a potion that regrows bones, but still impressive).
Between Linfred "The Potterer", Fleamont Potter, and Lily Evans... I'm beginning to wonder if Harry would have been Outstanding at Potions even before getting the Half-Blood Prince's book if Snape had not mistreated him.
Linfred's son, Hardwin Potter, married Iolanthe Peverell...
...the granddaughter of Ignotus Peverell, who either created The Cloak Of Invisibility (while there are other invisibility cloaks, all of them lose their ability over time... except this one), or received it from Death personified... after besting Death personified...
the point of all this is that Harry has power and greatness from both his mom and his dad.
remember that Voldemort can't produce a Patronus.
Harry's fully formed and powerful Patronus (as a child!) is NOT because he has a piece of Voldermort's soul inside him.
it's because he is the child of 2 very powerful magic users.
all that being said... I do believe Fawkes' feather chose Harry because Voldemort chose Harry.
If Voldemort has chosen Neville, then Fawkes' feather would have chosen Neville.
but NOT because of the greatness that a piece of Voldemort's soul imbues...
...but because Phoenixes represent death and rebirth.
Voldemort is death.
the one he chooses to mark as his equal is rebirth... death's undoing...
the Phoenix's first feather chose Tom Riddle... it did not choose Voldemort...
the other feather chose Voldemort's undoing... to right the wrong...
...to bring life where Voldemort misused the first feather to bring death.
Even if Harry was only chosen because of the Horcrux, the wood plays a part. If both yew and holly are symbols of immortality, yew (Voldemort) is viewed as a symbol of doom and holly (Harry) as symbol of evergreen, everlasting life and rebirth.
Add to the equation loyalty to Dumbledore.
It would be interesting to know if both wands were twins made at the same time or if Harry's wand was made later on as a "counterevil" to its brother.
Hmm i reasoned this way as well but its called the twin cores after all so i think its made together, however i think it makes you're reason even more pluasible as the one feather was made the other was too to balance the equation almost like an Ying yang effect
I think you’re absolutely right. The prophecy was that Riddle would mark a child as his equal. Voldemort selected the other for Harry to be great. Whomever he chose (for example Neville) would likely have gone the same route.
Remember Malfoy never had his wand choose him, his mom bought his wand for him. After Harry wrestled Malfoy's wand away it started serving Harry. The problem is Malfoy's wand had a unicorn hair string core and stay very loyal to their original owner yet it switched allegiances to Potter. Because that wand was never truly Malfoy's, it was Harry's from the very beginning. Now however Malfoy himself became a very talented wizard despite using a wand that was never truly his.
Now, if it's true that unicorn core wands can not make dark magic and and Draco's mother bought his that wand .. was it on purpose?
There was another theory I watched that goes like this: (if I can summarize it correctly)
Fawks being a Phoenix, can be reborn, it may be possible that the Fawks that gave the wand core for Voldemort’s wand and the Fawks that gave the core for Harry’s wand could be the same bird, just at a different stage of life. It could also mean that the Fawks that gave the core to Voldemort may have a different personality to the Fawks that gave to Harry.. Voldemort’s core was from Fawks who maybe valued power more than Harry’s core, and Harry’s core values love more… I hope I summoned it correctly…
Theu are twin cores, cant be twins if they came from different phoenix
yes, same pheonix, just that for example, voldermorts feather was before the pheonix burned to ash whilst harry feather was after the pheonix burned and rose from rebirth.. that's the theory@@protipskiptoendofvideoandr286
I really appreciate your deep dives into the world of Harry Potter! This has to be one of my favorites. So interesting to learn details about wands and Mr. Ollivander. Thanks for your amazing details!
You initially stated that the wand chose young Tom Riddle because he had not yet been twisted/corrupted but was still full of potential to good. You said that you believed older Tom/Voldy would not have been chosen. The part of Voldemort that is inside of Harry's scar wouldn't have been chosen by this logic. I believe that the wand saw Harry's soul/spirit/potential and chose him based on this just like it chose Tom before he perverted himself.
I agree, in a sense he kind of backtrack there, because it was proven in Chamber of Secret that all of Tom souls are automatically evil, so if it sense tom soul in Harry, than the Wand wouldn't have chosen Harry, because that soul is corrupt with evil, so really The wand chose Harry Himself, not because of the prophecy or his connection with Voldy, So really even if Voldy didn't choose him it more likely he would still get the same wand, as not all children got the same wand as their parents
I would like to point out that, after Harry repaired his phoenix wand with the elder wand, his wand sort of re-chose him (feeling warm to his fingers and emitting sparks) even after Voldemort's soul was removed and destroyed. Therefore, I don't think the wand chose Harry because of Tom Riddle
We know that Nevil could have just as easily been "The chosen one" because he met all the same requirements of the prophesy. So if Tom had chosen Nevil then he still would have been defeated and I think that the wand that chose harry would have chosen him instead because the wand turned out to be a very important part of the whole puzzle. It follows then that yes, the wand likely was pulled to Harry only because of Tom's splintered soul embedded in him. I think though that it was likely attracted so it could help "the chosen one" to defeat the other wand and redeem the folly of the choice made by the other wand.
No nevil wouldn’t have gotten the wand. His grandmother would likely still make him use his fathers Unicorn hair wand.
No, he wouldn't have defeated him because Voldemort wouldn't have given Neville's parents the option to survive. What really caused Voldemort to be defeated was Harry's mother's sacrifice. Snape asked Voldemort to spare her and because of that, Voldemort gave her the choice to survive but even so she chose to save her son's life, this protected Harry and caused the killing curse to ricochet. Voldemort had no reason to spare anyone in Neville's family, so Neville would have died even if Voldemort had gone after him. The prophecy could only have referred to Harry.
People say this because harry thinks it in a moment of reflection and sadness.....but its DEFINITELY not true though. You're totally ignoring the fact of the ONLY thing that saved harry from the curse was the ancient love sacrifice magic from his mother when she refused to step aside and actively chose to give her own life for his. You're also forgetting about snape.......think for a second how crucial snape was to dumbledore, the resistance, and the success of dumbledores plan with harry. He was in love with lily, and the moment he learned of her murder (despite his begging for her to be spared) was the moment voldemort lost him forever.
Snape gave dumbledore crucial intel, played the role of double agent and then later when voldy came back played the role of triple agent. He kept both harry and dumbledore alive at different points (think how he counteracted quirrell or saved dumbledore from the curse). He swapped griffindores sword out for a fake and guided harry to the real one to finish destroying horcruxes. He took the unbreakable vow to kill dumbledore in malfoys place and informed dumbledore of everything...which lead to the misinformation that voldy believed snape was master of the elder wand instead of draco....and on his death he provided harry with the final pieces of the puzzle to know what had to happen next for dumbledores plan to work (ie the same ancient sacrificial magic lily made for harry, harry had to make in the forrest, which was why harry was able to come back and why voldemorts magic was no longer as effective anymore.)
Neville simply didnt have these circumstances surrounding him. Snape was not in love with alice. He was not begging for alice's life and vowing to destroy voldemort on her behalf...voldy was never even giving her the option of choosing to sacrifice herself because of that...there was no snape (his favourite) to ask this. So she would have died instantly in the way james did....and so would neville....
It could only ever have been harry.
Always thought it was interesting how Harry breaks the Elder Wand in the movies but in the books he keeps it safeguarded, saying if he dies a natural death then it will break the vicious cycle because he will have never been defeated.
Yes, and the absolute madlad runs off to become an Auror, whose entire job is to confront powerful Dark Wizards.
Brains like that, he could've been a Death Eater, as Aberforth seemed fond of saying.
Maybe we should be laying these little idiocies at the doorstep of Rowling herself. I'm sure her "Oh, my Math!" deficiency extends to basic logic too.
Here is my theory, I think the Phoenix wands are both good spirited initially, they saw in both Harry, and Voldemort wizards who would rise from ashes and achieve greatness, and have their name forever known however I think the wands wanted this to be for the greater good, but voldemorts wand slowly through corruption and dark magic seeked only power and due to a dog like loyalty (which phoenixes though independent seem very loyal as seen why they stick around Dumbledores) allowed corruption, while the brother seeked the same but had a loyalty to good that was not corrupted, if the wand favored Voldemort despite the horxcruz I don't think it would choose the boy who may one day defeat him, I believe Harry's wand never became corrupted such as riddles wand
I appreciate that this channel has strived to tackle the more difficult topics for Harry Potter than most other HP content creators. Bravo mate, keep up the hard work
Honestly I always kinda had that theory in my head too. The only reason that the Phoenix feather wand chose Harry was because of the piece of Voldemort inside of him. I feel it goes back to the prophecy too. Like the wand chose him because Voldemort chose his family in a way. Which means if you ask me if Voldemort went after the Longbottoms instead and Neville’s mother did the same as Harry’s and sacrifice herself to save him… Neville would’ve lived and HE would have a the Phoenix core. In the end Like you said the only reason Harry or Neville would have been a huge deal is because of Tom Riddle.
Perhaps my theory is that the brother feather chose Harry because it sensed its wand was the best way Harry could duel with the other feather owner.
So in a way, since the other feather was possessed by Voldemort, its Brother feather chose Harry because Harry's counterpart had its counterpart.
That way the wand chose to help Harry be on equal playing field as much as it could
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I don't think it really matters if the phoenix feather chose someone evil.
It's simply that Voldemort is unique and powerful, so it fits him. Just because fawkes is good doesn't mean the feather will choose someone good.
Or what if the Phoenix feather chose Harry because of Harry AND Tom's Soul BOTH inside of Harry? The eclipse of Light and Darkness maybe?
I never questioned why Harry got his wand. I always assumed it was because of his connection to Voldemort. Watching the first movie in 2001 I assumed a magical connection due to the scar, the. We learned of the prophecy & Voldemort’s soul inside Harry & that cemented my belief that Harry got the wand due to his connection to Voldemort. However I don’t think he would have got the wand if he had never been picked on that fateful night in godric’s hollow.
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I like the idea of Harry only being as great as he is because of Voldemort.
That he isn't this inexplicably great-at-everything anime type protagonist, but that he was merely what he was because of his nemesis. It makes both Harry and Voldemort unique from other heroes and villains, Voldemort having put his own end in motion and being the root cause of what he so feared.
I feel like this theory holds less ground than many others because if it's basis for choosing Harry was the attraction to voldemort, it could also be inferred that after the events of the 7th book it would no longer work for Harry as he no longer had that fragment of voldemorts soul
Tom and Harry were both solo kids, too. If Phoenixes are solitary animals, makes sense they would be kinda lone wolves.
I don't think Harry's wand only chose him because of the horcrux. Holly wood suits him very well, so i think it chose him because it suits him, not because of Voldemorts part in Harry
Yeah but Harry could of gotten any other Holly wood wand
I so throughly enjoy this channel THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO I’ve had this question in my head for years
I understand that a wand chooses the wizard. My question is why is a wizard rejected by so many other wands?
I love this question!!!
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I would say a mix. He was the son of 2 incredibly talented and powerful people. Raised right he would come into his potential much sooner. Yet it can't be denied that Voldemort did indeed give him power of sorts that night.
It makes sense that Harry's wand attaches itself to the part of Voldemort inside him as this storyline forms the backbone to the whole series. Other explanations require dovetailing into the storyline or some speculation.
I just thought this very comment.
Starting from the premise that the wand chose young Riddle but wouldn't have chosen adult Voldemort, you could speculate the wand served Voldemort less willingly than it had served Riddle. Then, suppose that when Voldemort tried to kill baby Harry, the wand sensed in Harry what had bonded it to Riddle in the beginning, and in a way facilitated the soul transfer that made Harry a horcrux, in a sense making Harry another young Tom?
Now here is the thing... it sounds really cool, but likely author didnt really think of that.
It still wouldn't work as the part of tom soul in harry is still evil (which shown in Chamber of secret, that all of Tom souls was evil), so really it wasn't Tom the feather/wand sense but Harry himself, if we go by HP theory, Also HP theory forgot that kid Tom wasn't innocent as he started down the dark path in the orphanage, as he stole things, hurt people and things like that, so even if Dumbledore try to help Tom the boy was actually at the point of no return when they met. Remember Tom don't know love, as he wasn't born out of love but more like faux love as his mother use a love potion on his father, now the one soul of Voldemort that came close to know anything about love was the one in Harry and as we saw in the deathly Hollow, it was on the verge of death because it got hit with the killing curse, however it was also small and frail probably due to that fact it wasn't used to the amount of love that Harry have and had been given, after all it because of that same love that Voldemort couldn't possess Harry.
I love this idea, and Fawkes affinity for Harry would even make sense. If he can sense Harry's devotion to Dumbledore, could if have been partially because of Harry's wand? Dumbledore himself kinda tells us the only reason Harry is important is because Voldy chose to believe the prophecy, and the prophecy does say that by marking Harry he will give Harry the tools to defend himself... So the wand would be one of those right?
I always believed that the holly wand knew that its brother attacked Harry and knew it could happen again and so chose Harry to save him from another strike.
Imagine a wand made from the wood of whomping willow. I wonder what it's properties would be and would it be powerful, or maybe possibly harmful to its owner
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I am curious of what would happen if you turned a Phoenix into a Horcrux. I mean if the Phoenix was killed would that part of the Soul die or would it never die because the Phoenix is basically immortal. Maybe Folklore could answer this.
For whatever reason. That background music you got playing. Has me thinking titanic and my heart will go on will start any moment
There are things greater than power. Greatness can be shown through love, loyalty, bravery, knowledge, ambition. Harry was not born great, he chose to be great just like he chose with the sorting hat. He learned from the love of the people around him and proved his greatness by trial. Yes, Voldemort was powerful and great in his power, but Harry was great in a power that Voldemort knows not. The Phoenix gave an opportunity, the opportunity of choice is beyond power.
I tend to think of the magical item in a wand the way one thinks of DNA contribution to a
child. A wand doesn’t become semi-sentient until it is combined with a magic wand wood. I image that this combining is something magical rather than just cutting a hole in the center of a stick. Otherwise, there would be more 11 year olds with broken wands. Once a core is combined with the wood, it becomes a semi-sentient object separate from and only partially like its “parent.”
It’s also important to realize that while the wands share a core they do not share woods and those two woods have very different affinities. Two puppies that have the same father can be very different dogs and like very different people. There have been criminals that had loyal pets. Wands aren’t more aware of the goodness of a person than a pet just if it likes the witch or wizard holding it. The snatcher’s wand doesn’t like Harry, but Draco’s wand does. Who knows why really, other than ‘the wand chooses the wizard.’
Ollivander and Dumbledore are fully sentient beings, so why given what they know do they do what they do? Dumbledore is easy, he believes in second chances, gives them where many others would not. He doesn’t write off Tom at eleven as incapable of good and he doesn’t write off Snape who is a death eater at the time.
A better question is why does Ollivander make a wand (Yew & Phoenix feather) with such an affinity for a powerful dark wizard. I think ultimately it’s because Ollivander is a neutral academic character. Before this Ollivander (sorry forgot his first name), people could come into the shop with an object they wanted used as a core or demanding/refusing a particular wood. Ollivander considered this to be “unscientific” wand lore and was willing to do some experimenting with wands and their owners. There is some indication in GoF that Ollivander may be the only wand maker insisting on letting the wand choose the wizard. We know at the time of GoF, some wand makers still make wand cores of other things than Ollivander’s chosen three. Ollivander makes the Holly wand because it is an “usual combination.” He makes the Yew wand because he knows it will be powerful but doesn’t really believe the ‘old wives tales’ of it’s ease of being turned to dark magic until Tom becomes Voldemort.
Those are my thoughts. What do you think?
Why is Ollivander makes Hawthron wand with unicorn hair core and why is Narcissa buy this for Draco?
Voldemort made Harry significant when he chose to attack him. Remember that the prophecy said that the "Dark Lord shall mark him as his equal." Voldemort set the ball rollinh to connect him and Harry.
Harry completed the connection by choosing to be the one to defeat Voldemort. Dumbledore explained that it's the difference between being dragged into battle and walking in with your head held high.
Connected by coincidence/fate but intertwined by choice.
Plot armour or plot coincidences. The wand chooses the wizard even more so after the battle of Hogwarts and Voldemorts final defeat. The wand still chose Harry.
The theory you posed occurred to me as well, but the question you ended on...
I think he Still would've been "Destined For Greatness", even if Voldemort hadn't inadvertently made Harry one of his horcruxes because:
A) Both of his parents were
Extraordinary.
B) If Voldemort either hadn't
known of Harry's destiny
or chose Not to Hunt &
Kill the 3 of them, Harry
would've Still been destined
to face him.
C) Some things are Fated,
and thus, Inescapable.
Love your videos, dude!
I have a couple of theories for you. One has been said a few times in the past, but I've only seen short one liners about it. Voldemort, Snape and Harry are like the three brothers..... I would expand it to say they are not just like the Three brothers but ARE the decedents of the three brothers. Voldemort being the first brothers descendent, Snape being the Second Brothers Descendent, and Harry being the Thrid Brothers Descendent (As we already know he is do to the cloak being passed down through the generations of the thirds descendants).Look at how similar they are to the three brothers. First Brother and Voldemort are both Combative men, willing to go out of their way just to best someone that has slighted them in the past. Second Brother and Snape, Both lost their great love, lived on and eventually died thinking about their love, Why Snape asked Harry to look at him so he could look into Lilly's eyes as he died. Third Brother and Harry both just want to skate under the radar not wanting Fame or anything like that but to just live a long and normal life.
Voldemort and Dumbledore are actually related. We know Tom Riddle is the last of the Gaunts or is he? Isolde One of the founders of Illvormorny was the daughter of a member of the Gaunt family, Her Mother. Isolde later had two daughters, one was a Witch and one a Squib. Her Squib daughter married her best friends brother, a Native American. When Harry sees Kendra's Photo he says she looks like she could be of Native American decent. If she is then why not have her mother be the descendent of Isolde, making Dumbledore and Voldemort related. This could also make him a descendant of the first brother and would explain his love for power as well.
Great video but this is the first one that I disagree with. Your views that Phoenix chose both Voldemort and Harry because they were both exceptionally great wizards and would do amazing things and also the other view that it only picked Harry because a piece of Voldemort was inside of him I disagree…the real reason is because Phoenix knew the future in that Harry would need that phoenix feather in order to defeat Voldemort it protects him as they have the same core It chose Harry for a reason and that reason is to fight evil with good to defeat Voldemort by having the same wand core
I think it's because of Baltimore but what I think is because yes the phoenix feather did choose Tom Riddle others years ago and once he turned evil the phoenix feather realized what a mistake it had made and realized that Harry was the one that was going to defeat him when Harry went into buy his wand so yes and no I think if Voldemort hadn't done what he did Harry Potter would not have been bound for greatness he would have been a good wizard but that's about it I think that because the one sensible the more and Harry he knew it would be the only way he can make up for the mistake
Exactly the points I was thinking. The orphan theory, the horcrux theory too. You make an interesting point about "not destined for greatness at all". I wonder if the holly wand would have chosen Neville if it had been him in Harry's position.
Well he was destined for the phoenix feather to start with because of his pure heart vs voldermort and the prophecy stated that he had to die to live but in the end it was only meant to be a temporary wand while at hogwarts, after hogwarts he was destined for the elder wand but didn't want the power and settled for the one he won for draco
"...and settled for the one he won for Draco" makes me like your answer. It's so nice for the two of them that have this chance to understand other a bit more.
One question is why did so many other wands not choose him? Harry went thru alot of wands and none worked for him. Is that normal? Only one wand chooses the wizard?
Yes, "The wand chooses the wizard Mr. Potter!" Olivander.
I feel that since phoenixes are a symbol of death and rebirth, Harry's phoenix feather may have been looking for someone to be the light against Voldemort's darkness. Like it was trying to "bring balance to the force" harry potter style. Life(harry) and death(voldemort), light and dark, good and evil, yang and yin. It even goes down to their wand wood types. In ancient druidic traditions, Holly wood(Harry's wand) was associated with life and growth, while Yew(Voldemort's wand) is associated with death and resurrection in Celtic culture.
It'd be more ironic after Voldermort is gone, Harry's wand no longer works.
This is a great example of living up to expectations. No matter if the wand picked Harry because of his affinity with Valdemort, the mere fact that everyone, to include Olivander, told Harry he was destined to do great things led him to believe he COULD do great things. And so he did.
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The one thing I’m unsure if people remember is that Harry and Voldemort are so alike but it was one choice that made them different. To love… or to hate. Voldemort gave into fear and sought power to to make others fear him. He was alone. Harry chose love and friendship and because of that was never alone once he found Hogwarts . I think the wands saw the potential they both had but it was the choices that made them different. However we also have to remember that Voldemort chose Harry. It easily could have been Neville. But Voldemort went after Harry and his parents. He marked him as his equal and that changed the way everything played out didn’t it.
I completely agree with the Voldemort theory but regarding Harry; yes, he was in a way 'pushed' to do great things as a wizard because he had to battle Voldemort to save his own life. And yes, his fame came from the manifestation of Voldemort's advanced dark magic that left Harry the scar. People thought it was his deed when in fact it was Lily's magic that made all the situation that took place possible (Harry's survival due to her protection and the involuntary horcrux made because the killing curse bounced). But let's not forget, although i do agree that the wand chose Harry because of Voldemort's soul inside of him; Harry's bravery was what made him duel with Voldemort all those numerous occasions. He didn't know the complexity that magic could offer, yet he never feared saying his name and was always willing to fight him. He learned advanced magic because of the danger Voldemort put him through, yes, but he was able to learn them being so young and inexperienced, so that's talent. A talent which combined with destiny, made him great. Maybe the phoenix feather had forsee Harry's potential to greatness and also sensed his propensity to thrive.
A thoughtful video as always. Some great discussions in the comments.
Very plausible. I'd always assumed that the wand core connection was because of the part of Voldemort in Harry.
Were does it said that the Phoenix feather on the wands was Fawkes??? I don't recall that on the books
I see the situation as presented as a both/and possibility. Good video.
The issue of the wand choosing the witch or wizard has always bothered me for years with the HP universe because if Olivander doesn't know which wand it is unless via good luck or good guess especially with that very large stash that he possess in his shop then any hogwarts student may end up turning up late for their enrollment won't they
I always go by 2 theory:
1/ it choose the person who will be the greatest wizard for that time. We could see that both Voldemort and Harry are so similar in everythings. It's just that Voldemort chose to revenge and conquer the world, while Harry chose to protect.
2/Maybe both wands are like Yin and Yang. The phoenix produced both wands, knowing that one of it will fall into a hand of a villain so the other wand has to fall into a Hero's hand.
I kind of agree, but differ slightly from your conclusion. It was not because of Voldemort exactly or precisely that Harry was destined for greatness.
It was the prophecy that was made by Sybil Trelawney that did that, but only because Voldemort acted upon her words that was relayed to him by Severus Snape, remember the conversation dumbledore has with harry in the HBP, in the Headmasters office. "He did not hear the full wording of the prophecy, and thus did not know there might be danger in attacking you, or risk transferring some of his power to you, which indeed happened". This last part is the crucial part of what Dumbledore said, "or risk transferring some of his power to you", it is perhaps this power that the core sensed and chose Harry, although this part of Voldemort's magic certainly was powerful, it was not inherently evil. But this was not the magic sensed the phoenix feather sensed, it felt something much much more powerful, Harry had very powerful ancient magic of his own, that was passed on by his mother when Voldemort killed her, so powerful that it could resist the lure of power of Voldemort, this magic is so powerful that Voldemort could not even touch him without being mortally wounded, and that power is love, greater and more powerful than any magic that Voldemort had ever produced, and that is why Harry was destined for greatness.
Several points: 1. Holly, an evergreen is associated with life. Holly symbolizes peace and goodwill, and also protects against evil spirits and bad luck. While the berries cause vomiting they are not fatally poisonous. Holly wood is white symbolizing purity. Harry, like Sir Galahad, is pure in heart.
2. Yew is fatally poisonous in wood, leaves and berries. It was associated with Hecate, the goddess of witchcraft, necromancy, and death. It was seen as an omen of doom and was planted in cemeteries. I wonder why Olivander would use yew in wands at all!
I think the Phoenix feather sensed goodness and greatness in Harry. It wanted to defeat the evil that it was previously given feather wielded. Much like The Sorting Hat's decision.
I like the idea that maybe the wand knew Harry had the potential to right the wrong that it’s “brother” had done.
I‘d be interested in a Video about the particular properties of the different wand cores. The known ones. Unicorn hair, phoenix feather, dragon heart string, … are there some more known? Stuff like, as you mentioned here ‘Phoenix feathers are capable of the greatest range of magic […] etc.’ That’d be really interesting. 😊 Thank you so much for your resources and efforts. I really appreciate it! Your videos are great! :)
If it were true that the wand chose Harry because of the piece of Voldemort inside him then the plot in the 7th book wouldn’t have worked with the elder wands allegiance or all the other Wands allegiances that Harry ganged at malfoy manor.
After reading the books in seeing the movies, I’ve always thought it was because of his connection to Voldemort
It is because of his connection. Rest of it discussed here in the video and the comments is just huge assumptions.
By the time Harry got his wand, he was already the chosen one. He became the CO when V selected him instead of Neville, when a one year old baby, as the person in the prophesy.
It is Voldemort not Harry’s wand, that made him important.
Just re-re-… reading Order of the Phoenix and in it, the phoenix twice leaves a feather as a message. Surely such feathers could be used as wand cores?
or maybe.... harry needed plot armour? but dumblydore did say he has some qualities in common with tom riddle but I think the wand Is a perfect symbolism to how you can have things in common but yet be different because of the choices you make, with their wands having the same core but different wood.
There's one thing that instantly disproves this theory. It's that when the horcrux was removed from Harry and the holly wand was repaired, Harry was still it's master. Whilst the Elder wand changes master to whoever beats it's previous ones, phoenix wands are more loyal, so the fact that the Holly wand's power didn't disappear with the horcrux means that you've gone in the wrong direction. I think it would be more suitable to say Fawkes is a bit like Dumbledore. In its early days it chose power and glory - Tom Riddle. In it's later days it chose love and compassion - Harry.
That’s been something that crossed my mind regarding the scar and wand core.
I like the idea of Phoenix feather’s significance after FB:SOD
The Phoenix follows a dying dumbledore…’I’ve seen the signs’-Dumbledore
Tom was discovered while he was still young whereas creedance was forced to conceal via obscurial for many years
To avoid seeing that happen again the Phoenix feathers were meant for someone who grew up parentless and not knowing their place in the world
Prediction: The feathers will be revealed when creedance finally passes
A feather for Ariana and one for creedance.
Extremely interesting!!!i a.ways wondered if Fawks was the Phoenix who’s tail feathers were in Harryand Voldemort’s wands!
Harry has all mental qualities of a hero, so no, let’s not trust Snape’s abusive words, he was psychologically mightier than the majority of others. Maybe because of his heritage, especially mother’s, but just in fact.
And one important note - after his first death in the Forbidden Forest he couldn’t speak Parseltongue anymore, yet the only problem with his wand was that it was broken.
Other than through lineage, Voldemort (Tom Riddle) had very little of himself in Harry - after all a few important details occurred before Harry even attended Hogwarts. The first being that that the wands already had the tail feathers in them. Secondly, Tom Riddle knew that he could only split himself a certain number of times - which he had done prior to trying to kill the whole Potter family. And lastly, Dumbledore pointed out that Lilly's unconditional love for Harry, kept Voldemort from killing him that fateful night. It is then fair to say, that having Harry try several other wands prior to the Holly/Phoenix 11" wand, none of the others were suitable to fill the wizarding needs Harry would have in the coming years against Voldemort / Tom Riddle. It KNEW Harry was deemed for greatness, because only Harry's wand could deflect / defeat Voldemort's wand from the damage it had done for years before Harry finally arrived at Olivander's Wand shoppe, and Hogwarts.
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I believe this video is exactly correct. I thought of this idea as well: the only reason that the wand with a feather of the same Pheonix as Voldemort’s wand chose Harry was because of their connection. The fact that Harry was a Hormuz of Voldemort’s made them similar in ways beyond their control. But of course, unlike Voldemort, Harry wasn’t a killer and was good in nature. Like Dumbledore said in Chamber of Secrets: It’s not our abilities that show who we are are. It’s our choices.
Part of me thinks that Harry’s wand chose him for a few reasons (some cannon, some not). I do believe that naturally the world wants to keep balance with itself. Being that Voldemort committed many atrocities and great evil with his wand, the world using Sibil foretold Voldemort’s downfall by Harry (I don’t remember the prophecy off the top of my head) and part of that required the brother wand to be destined for Harry, the fact that Fawkes only ever gave two feathers could be a sign of that balance too. The other reason the wand could have chose Harry was because of the magic of love that was cast about him the night his parents died.
I think the feather core latching onto Voldemort's soul in Harry makes sense, but contradicts with you saying the phoenix core would not have chosen an adult Voldemort. The piece of his soul inside Harry was from the height of his power and horrific deeds. Keep in mind that Fawkes is not the same being as semi-sentient wands made from his feathers, and Phoenix's are typically more detached beings. Fawkes likely was only very helpful throughout the series due to his bond with Dumbledore. I doubt the wand cores have much sense of morality, or else it would likely be difficult for people from purist pure blood families (essentially future death eaters) to even get wands. The wand cores care more about a match in personality and inherent traits rather than morality itself. I do think Harry's wand could sense his horcrux though like you say, and likely his own innate power as well as his important fate.
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Odd how no one commented on the one thing that truly makes the two wands "polar" opposites, a pole being a single object in which the magnetic charges have been repulsed to the maximum distance from one another. The power source itself, the feather, is neutral, neither good nor evil, but capable of being used for either purpose. But the choices of wood have definite moral overtones. Holly is not a particularly strong wood, but it is extremely pale and usually described as being white. Of the timber native to the British isles, yew is both quite strong and flexible, and so dark of tone that it is often described as being black. Visually this is completely missed in the movies, but yes - Harry's wand is white, and Voldemort's is black. If you are looking for moral symbols, there's not a much clearer picture.
I've always wondered if the wand chooses the witch or wizard then why is the purchasing of one the way they receive their wand? Shouldn't it be a more ceremonious event?
I think that the idea of Harry's wand initially choosing him due to his connection to Voldemort is very plausible, but not simply because he was a horcrux. I also believe that the theory of Voldemort's wand initially choosing him because of his potential is also plausible seeing as if he had turned out differently, he could have been a great wizard and morally good wizard. Its possible that Harry's wand sensed his connection with Voldemort who wielded its twin, and initially chose him because it could sense where his destiny would lead him, that being defeating Voldemort once and for all.
Dumbledore even theorized that when Harry and Voldemort first dueled, Harry's wand imbibed some of Voldemort's own power and used it against him when he tried to kill him as Hagrid was taking him to the Burrow. I believe that it was able to do this because of the fragment of Voldemort's soul that resided in Harry, allowing it to also recognize both Voldemort and the fact that he was about to try and kill Harry and acted of its own accord to protect him and destroy the wand that Voldemort was using, that being Lucius Malfoy's.
The combination of the twin wand cores and the fact that Harry had a fragment of Voldemort's soul residing in him probably not only ensured that the wand would choose him but also helped him to survive against Voldemort until the time came for Harry to prove his worth on his own by defeating Voldemort once and for all when he proved that he was the master of the Elderwand.
Another thing to note is that, in the book, when Harry repairs his wand using the Elderwand and takes it in his hand once more, the red and gold sparks shot out of it just like when it initially chose him. The fragment of Voldemort's soul was no longer part of him, and Voldemort was dead, which would indicate that the wand either recognized Harry as its master, or it recognized the fact that its investment in choosing Harry initially had been correct all along and chose to stick with him since he had proven his greatness with his own power.
Yes! Yes! Yes!
This was the very question I have about the previous Olivander wands video!!!
It's "How did the first years get their wands during Voldemort's reign? Why were they sent to Hogwarts?" video...
Did the second feather chose Harry Potter because of Harry Potter? OR did it chose Harry because the feather sensed Voldemort in Harry since the first feather chose Voldemort (Tom Riddle)?
Both Harry and Voldemort are sort of phoenixes
So that theory would mean, that if Voldemort would have chosen Neville and therefore making him the chosen one, the phoenix wand would have picked him? But Neville was given the wand of his father when he went to Hogwarts and got a new one just after the events in the ministry of magic. So the story would have been a lot different, because if we assume that Neville would have participated in the triwizard tournament, he wouldn't have the phoenix wand to ''protect'' him. I mean of course the events would have been different because Neville is of course another character than Harry, but this is just what came to my mind after hearing your theory (which I actually agree with).
Dumbledore found brought both voldemort and Harry into the Wizarding world. He also is the owner of fauks. He also is was a very cautious wizard whom knew many other powerful wizards. Maybe he was told by a seer about the events of voldemorte and Harry, and while not entirely believing that this was destiny, he would be cautious enough to plan for the worst. Hence he gets the Phoenix to donate 2 feathers. Gets olivander to ensure that both characters recieve said wands. Etc. Etc.
I think there is a lot more to this, and the wider wizarding lore. So hang on....
We know that both Tom and Harry were decendants of the Peverel brothers. The Peverell brothers, in my opinion, represent 3 stages of grief. All 3 of them created an item that link to death; the elder wand has a thestral hair core, the invisibility cloak (I believe) is made of Thestral hair and the resurrection stone I think is actually the representation of an Egg of Myrrh. An egg of Myrrh is believed to be created by a Phoenix after it has been reborn- by using the ashes of its Father and Myrrh. Traditionally this egg is carried to the sun city Heliopolis.
Now I think that Fawkes is actually the phoenix of the Peverel brothers- don't forget that Dumbledore is also a descendant of them- and the reason that the tail feather wands choose them is that it can sense their bloodline and knows how powerful that bloodline is.
Now the Peverel brothers representing stages of grief would be:
The eldest creating the wand is the revenge or Anger stage as the wand could be used to exact the revenge on the owners loved one.
The stone would represent bargaining or reflection.
The cloak represents depression and loneliness.
My thoughts are that the Peverell brothers saw someone close to them, maybe their mother or sister, killed and created these items. After the killing 2 of the brothers saw Thestrals and could sense their power and used parts of them to create their items. The 3rd brother was probably comforted by the lament of a Phoenix, which he found just before it rejuvenated itself, and it gifted him the egg of Myrrh it created. That Phoenix stayed with the brothers and later that turned into the Dumbledore family story that a Phoenix will show itself to a Dumbledore in need.
I also have a suspicion that J K Rowling hinted at in the books that the invisibility cloak was made of thestral hair by the way only a select few characters were able to 'see' the invisibility cloak- all of these characters had witnessed a death of a loved one.
Sorry its a long not well constructed explanation but trying it get it all out made me think further and further.