BMW R 1250GS Two Year Owners Review / Test. Positives, Negatives plus upgrades and top 5 Accessories
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- Опубликовано: 6 июн 2024
- BMW R 1250GS 2 year owners review and test. It’s been just over two years with my BMW R 1250GS Rallye, so its time to share my experience and thoughts, the good and the not so good, the positives and the negatives.
If you have any questions, just leave me a comment and I will reply…
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Best Wishes, Carl
00:00 Start
03:04 Positives - Engine
06:37 Chrome Exhaust
07:38 Brakes
08:42 Comfort
13:21 Adaptive Headlight
14:24 Negatives - Screen
16:54 Gearbox
18:51 Warranty / Recalls
23:01 Updates - Indicators
24:40 Tyres
26:10 Dashboard Update
28:31 Bar Risers
31:06 Top 5 Accessories
36:10 Was It The Right Choice?
39:24 M 1300GS 
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For the viewers in North America: I'm talking UK miles per gallon which is an Imperial Gallon = 4.55 litres. which converts to approximately 44/45 US miles per gallon.
I do apologise for not making this clearer as I do have a lot of followers in NA I should have known better and put that conversion on the screen.
Also the various standard fuel maps of which there are 5 on the 2021 onwards bikes and the different emissions regulations between a Global GS and a NA GS, all play a part in a slight variation between our motorbikes real world fuel economy.
kindest regards Carl
I've been averaging 44.5 US miles/gallon pulling 2nd gear wheelies every trip and 'giving her the beans'... on my 2024 GS. I've been impressed!
@@hangpilot1200that’s great and what it should be 👍 best wishes Carl JTWII
Received my new GS today! Triple black baby!
Congratulations and lucky you 👍🙋🏻♂️
Funny that you mentioned no one has complemented your GS looks. I purchased my 1250GS Rallye in 08/23 and have just 3K miles on it (so far). Multiple times I've had people comment on what a stunning motorcycle I had. Of course, "stunning" could mean several things... The GS looks aren't for everyone but *I* like them. I do stop and have a last look at the bike before I close the garage door.
And BTW I do enjoy your videos.
Hi Steven, yes the garage and petrol station test.
If we don’t turn back to have a look and think…. That’s a nice bike, we are probably on the wrong bike.
Don’t get me wrong, I do love my GS but it’s just not the same experience as owning a Multistrada. Have a great weekend 👍
Excellent review Carl as always. The only thing I disagree with is I think the R1250 GS and GSA are beautiful bikes. I was a crew chief on A-10s and AH-64s, so my idea of mechanical beauty is a bit skewed, lol. I've pretty much added all the mods you've done to your bike after your review of them and you have been spot on with all of it. The products you review and recommend are never the "look at this latest and greatest farkle to waste money on", everything you suggest adds value (not monetary) to our bikes. I do appreciate your video on brakes and the Next 2's. Those two upgrades made a world of difference to my riding enjoyment. You always go into the technical details that other bike channels leave out, which are the ones I want to know about the most. You do it in such a competent manner and make the information easy to understand, you are one of the top YT bike channels in my opinion. Keep up the amazing work, your efforts are appreciated.
Good morning Correy, thank you for your kind words of appreciation. Don’t worry I still love ❤️ my GS ! . Finding a balance between what viewers want and attracting the right sort of viewer/ subscriber is not easy. I decided in 22 just to make videos that I would watch and share things I would like to understand and learn about. I know the channel is never going to be a huge success but im completely fine with that.
An engineering buddy of mine was a tech on the Ah-64D at westlands , he had some interesting stories to share.
Have a good week Correy
Carl 🙋🏻♂️
I have a s1000rr and a r1m, both have full exhaust and carbon fiber all over. People rarely compliment on those, only other riders who knows bike do. But for the GSA, I get compliments all the time, from car drivers next to me, to people in the parking lots. I think it's impressive for more regular people 😅😅😅
Thank you for sharing, lucky you to own all three great motorbikes. Best wishes Carl
Great video as always, very informative.
Thank you Dazm 👍
Thanks for this two year ownership review. Again a lot of good information!
Hi Edward 🙏, thank you 👍
Great review video, completely different format, well done and thanks for sharing it! 👍👍
Hello Nelio, thank you 🙏, glad you enjoyed it
Regards Carl
Quickly becoming my favorite YT reviewer!!! Great info Carl!!!!
Hi Fred, thank you 🙏
Great video as usual. Looking forward to the quickshifter fix!
Thank you 🙏
Hi Carl, great video in general. It would be awesome if that quick shift fix works. Can’t wait for the next video. Thanks for so much detail information 👌🏻
Hi Mr Majiso, thank you 🙏
Great video as always Carl very informative & interesting points raised, would be very helpful to share Edward’s modification on up shift on the gear shift assist pro, my curiosity has risen! Too notch 👍
Thank you Derek, 👍
Hi Carl, always a great delight to hear all this precise info on our favorite bike. Spot on! Anxious to have the episode on the gearbox assist clunkiness…I always use my clutch from first to third up & down. ( mechanical sympathy I guess )😂Our riding season will soon be here in Quebec. Ride safe, Marc 🇨🇦🏍😉
🙋🏻♂️👍🔜
Awesome video as always. Something new I learned are the additional 2 settings for the rider’s seat adjustment. Didn’t realise you can adjust front and rear of the rider’s seat separately
Give them a try, they each feel different 👍. Have a great weekend 🙋🏻♂️
Thanks for the great review. I have a ‘22 GSA and love it. So much that I keep considering the 1250RT as well. I don’t use the quick shifter often but when I do, mine works well on the upshifts, and seems to NOT want to work on the downshifts, so I don’t bother with it. I was surprised at your fuel economy until I saw your pinned comment… now I feel better as I’m solidly in the mid-40s (US) as well 😁
Hi Hogdriver, thanks for the feedback 🙏, yes I should mentioned the US figures in my video.. my mistake 🫣. Yes the QS is funny their seems to be 3 types of performance, those like you who have great upshift, owners like me that have great downshift, and some lucky owners have both. Smile 😊
Best wishes Carl
Thanks for going to the trouble Carl of posting this honest review really enjoyed this one.
Hi Maccas, glad you enjoyed it 👍🙋🏻♂️
Love the Update. I currenlt ride a Suzuki VZR1800 Boulevard, But am going to upscale to the GS 1250. Thank you for the amazing content.
Thank you 🙏
Entertaining whilst very informative! Well done! Great to view a bike channel which doesn’t need a load of profanities or hyperbole!
I have a 2018 GSA Rallye which is exactly what I wanted! Comfortable, great fuel range and more than ample power! At 6’5” and with dodgy knees I do however wish I could raise the seat still further, lower the floor pegs or both! I’ve never really mastered the Gear Shift Assist either. Try as I might I just can’t seem to shift up! I managed it a couple of times but thought it so crude I just reverted to old school clutch!
Keep it up. Great channel!
Hi and welcome to the channel and thank you for your feedback 🙏.
BMW do have adjustable foot pegs listed as an option for the 1300, but I’ve not yet been able to confirm they fit the 1250. You pop into your local dealership and ask.
I’d love to know 👍
Carl
Another brilliant video Carl, thank you for all the time you put into making these for us. As a RUclipsr, I know how much work goes into making videos like yours.
A note to US viewers who may think Carl needs correcting on fuel consumption. Carl is talking about the Imperial Gallon and NOT the US Gallon. The Imperial gallon is a unit of volume in the imperial system of units, where the US gallon is used exclusively in the United States. The imperial gallon is 20% larger than the US gallon.
Please keep the amazing work going Carl. I for one am already looking forward to your next video. 😎
Hi Mark, good morning and thank you for your feedback and support.
Wishing you a great week
Kindest regards Carl
Mr. Carl, you are one of the best "additions" I have made to my '22 GSA ..... My gorgeous "Rhino", Kaethe ...... Thank you for the hard work and knowledge you give us !!!!! As far as "looks", there is an old Texas observation .... "She may not be much to look at, but she can cook !!" 🙂
Hi Kurt , LOL 😂 you made me smile and laugh this morning with your Texan saying 👍
Thank you 🙏
Kind regards Carl
Great review. As far as the quick shifter, it seems to work fairly well on my R1250RS as long as I'm on the throttle for upshifts and off the throttle for downshifts. I have test ridden an R1250GS and it was significantly worse than my RS. I also agree with you on your take on the service notifications. It's a good thing.
Thank you for sharing Paul 👍
After decades of sports bikes I’m now on my 4th GSA. Subtle improvements are something I’ve always been aware of on these bikes, it’s as if BMW secretly wave their magic wand over them.
😉👍
As a new BMW Motorrad owner (I've owned BMW cars for decades), I've been pretty impressed w/ the dealership experience here in the States.
Hi HangPilot, welcome to the channel, great news thank you for sharing. Most dealerships are very good, friendly and well informed, with a few that could be improved.
Greetings from Germany, Carl
As always a great video! No annoying, flashy clips, no over the top background music, no showing off.....just very enjoyable, educational and relaxed informative videos. Love it!
Don't keep us waiting too long for that QS solution. That is most wanted!
Mabye you can also do a full installation video of the Innov K5?
Well there might be something like that just around the corner 😉
Thank you for the feedback, it’s nice to know keeping it simple is appreciated 🙋🏻♂️
@@justthewayitis Keeping it simple but really very educational is exactly what makes your channel stand out from the rest.
I too came off a MS, 2014. The only things I miss are the acceleration and the sound of the full Termignoni with Upmap.
I based my decision on the BM's reputation, safety features and all the additional extra aids but the clincher was the 30l tank for extended touring range without the constant stops.
I have GSA Trophy and enjoy it more each time I ride it.
Roll on my 2 week tour to the Pyrenees at the end of April.
Thanks for your upload.
Hi Simon, thank you 🙏 and your going to have a great trip, I hope to go next season 👍
Regards Carl
I've fitted the Puig touring screen ans reinforcement bracket, which works perfectly for me. For our regular 30c+ summers in Australia, I refit the OEM screen for added ventilation but otherwise the Puig is a great, very quiet & warm option.
Thank you, I’m going to try some different screens this season 👍
Great stuff! I remember I’ve had worse fuel eco. used the bike for three days
11-12km/L. But a great machinery to ride with.
Hi Heineken, 🫣🙋🏻♂️thank you leaving a message, Carl
Thanks for a great review. I have the 2023 R1250GS Triple Black. I've been thinking about getting risers even though I am 6'2" '(~188cm). I have the seat low at the back and high at the front. What I didn't know was that the position of the pillion seat was adjustable as well. If I could move that forward that would be even better for my riding position because I use the stepped seat as a kind of back support. So I might not need the risers if I can move the pillion seat forward. I'll check it out after I finish typing 😀
Then let me know if it works for you 👍
Excellent video as always. Regarding wind flow, I added the Wunderlich wind deflector (clear) and found a noticeable reduction of airflow in the chest area, part # 20520-101. For me, it was a worthwhile addition.... also, will there be a follow up video on the Tourance Next 2 tires? Thank you!
Hi Kathryn, thank you 🙏. And thank you for the part number I will have look. 👍 The next report on the NT2 will probably be towards the end of the season but I’ve been really pleased with them .
Kind regards Carl
Picking up a 1250GSA tomorrow :) Like the optics of the 1250s better than the new bikes.
Congratulations 🥂 and good luck tomorrow 🙋🏻♂️ I’m sure you’ll have lots of fun
Carl
I tried 1300 but to me its tiny more like xr in size so i am glad i got my 1250 gsa
Enjoy it! Clocked in 11000km last week.
To me the shear bulk of the 1250 gsa was what got me wanting one the utilitarian look does it for me
@@austinmatthews347 I do like the bulky look...lol
Hi Carl, another great video - thank you. Don't suppose you have a link to those Ebay screen mounts you mention at the 15-16 minute mark? Cheers from .au
Hi Doc, I did look before I uploaded the video but couldn’t find them. I’ll try again later and let you know.
I have watched all you videos since you got the 1250. Even BMW themselves couldn´t explain this bike better than you do.
I wish i never got tempted to replace my 1250 GS with the 1290 SAS. Now i can´t decide whether to go for the 1300 or the 1250. But it will be a BMW again next time.
Had a GIVI copy of the GSA screen on mine. I am 5´9 and it was perfect.
Hi Søren, thank you for your kind words. The 1290 SAS is a nice bike too, we have one in our bike club and the owner loves it. Too tall for me though, but it’s a B - - - -y fast bike.
Thank you for the screen advice 👍🙋🏻♂️
Regards Carl
Awesome video again. I can't wait to see what's the solution for the shifting. Thank you
You and me both!, Thank you 😊
Hi Carl, lovely review, just like others I’m looking forward to the potential quickshift fix - fingers crossed. Question: those small bags from the grab rails, do you have variopanniers and do they work together? The ones I find on eBay suggest they dont match with Vario panniers?
Hi Nigel good morning, I don’t own vario panniers, we have quite a few gs owners in the bike club so borrow them when needed. The bags probably won’t mount at the same time. But maybe one of the channel subscribers has both and can answer the question
Carl
Great videos Carl with strong technical content delivered in a pleasant manner. You’ve inspired me to go with a second windshield for dry/warm days out. Can you share a link for those windshield mount brackets you purchased from eBay ? Did you get the screws separately from BMW ? Cheers !
Hi Don, I have just spent an hour finding links for those owners that want to do a similar thing. So have a look in the video description at the bottom and you will find Amazon links for ( .COM and .CO.UK and .DE ) I have listed three geographical Amazon locations as you haven't mentioned which country you live in... smile.
Please be aware that you will still need to purchase bolts, what I did was to remove the original BMW ones and take them to a local hardware store and purchased almost identical ones. I purchased Stainless Steel versions but I could have also bought Titanium from the store, lots of choices.
I originally paid 19.95€ on eBay, but that supplier no longer lists them.
I would imagine that its just one manufacturer in China that makes these, and then they are sold by various sellers across various platforms. I'm not 100% sure of this as a fact !! but its more than likely.
Buying on eBay offers better prices, BUT if they don't work returning items is a pain. But with Amazon at least they can be returned if needed. Just my thoughts. Carl
Great, thanks Carl @@justthewayitis
As a previous owner of a 2019 GSA and now a 2023 GSA i can certainly say that gearbox feels much different.The 2023 is much smoother even upshifting from 1st to 2nd.I guess they improved it!
Hi Dimitris, they seem to get better each year. 😉
Hi Carl, great informative video. I’m gonna go see Steve @ A bike thing once Hex release the rear light delete . I’ll happily pay him to turn front and rear running lights off and add me a M screen .
New GSA metallic blue / black rallye arrived at the dealer today . I’m picking it up Tuesday and going to remove the rest luggage steals and convert to the vario set up . Cheers Pete 👍🤛👏
Hi Pete, well I wish you a great day on Tuesday 👍🙋🏻♂️ colour sounds great 😉
Great review. Please don't be too long with the upshift issue possible fix.
Ok Tim 🙋🏻♂️
First I would like to say, that your videos are very professional.
Second, are you considering going to the new BMW R1300GS model in the future?
Hi Lavi, thank you for your feedback, and currently I’m happy with the 1250 and won’t be changing to the 1300, for the reasons I mentioned in my review.
But the GSA might have some changes which could make a difference 🤔
Carl
Very informative and thanks. One thing, I don’t think, you mentioned. This GS, is probably the worst bike, in the world to clean! 🙂👍🏻
Hi Ben, lol you probably won’t believe me but I did originally have a 5 minute section at the end of this video talking about exactly that !!! But I had to cut ✂️ it out because the video was already very long. You are absolutely correct it’s a PITA to clean 🧽
Carl
Thanks Carl for another cracking video. I went into my local BMW dealer to see what they would offer me on my 22 plate 8k miles mint bike against a new 1300. £10k! I told them to shove it. Apparently the salesman says they can’t shift em on 😂😂
Hi Slip, try a different dealership, I’ve personally experienced a difference in trade in price of more than 3k between dealerships which is ridiculous… but great if you have time to shop around.
Carl 🙋🏻♂️
Moc pěkné recenze a rady a postřehy, jedny z nejlepších co znám. Velmi rád je sleduji a to několikrát ...Super 🙂👍 Sám mám BMW R 1250GS 40letou výročku 2022♥
Ahoj, děkuji, model k výročí 40 let je moc pěkný, přeji hodně zábavy s vaším GS. Všechno nejlepší Carl 👍
@@justthewayitis Děkuji s pozdravem Jiří z Čech....
nemáš zač, jsem rád, že se ti video líbilo Carl
Another victory of BMW R1250GS !
Amazing 🤩
Now I am more towards R1250GS instead of 1300GS as it is really lots of money. Even higher than the devil Ducati Multistrada V4 !
Assuming that there will be shift to 1300GS and lots of second hand 1250GSs will be out there available.
Yes the 1250 is going to be great value in both GS and GSA options 👍🙏
I ride 1250 RS and I definitely feel the cam shaft shifting, there is distinct push at that moment which is moving the bike and it is noticeable. I’m surprised you saying you don’t notice it at all. Indeed I don’t feel it in Road mode but definitely I do in Dynamic.
Thank you for sharing your experience 👍🙋🏻♂️ in dynamic mode the throttle map is very different and i can feel that change.
Hi Carl, another great video.
Thank you Daniele. 🙋🏻♂️
I just ordered the risers :-). @@justthewayitis
Great job 👍, which brand did you go for the BMW ones or something else
As I have the same version, Rallye, I followed your recommendation, Voigt.
I hope the get a better, relaxed driving. @@justthewayitis
I hope you like them, they are certainly beautifully machined 👍
Great videos Karl (or Carl?) I have just got a 24 GSA Triple Black and loving it 😻 cheers Karl in Oz 👍😊
Hi Karl, congratulations on your new GSA, which colour did you choose?
Carl
@@justthewayitis I went for the Black Carl 👍 hence the name “Black Betty” lol 😂
Ah, ok, the black does look beautiful, but hard to keep clean. 👍
@@justthewayitis that’s no problem Carl as I am not “precious” about my bikes, as I prefer to ride them. I still look after them and do clean after off-road rides but don’t spend hours polishing them like Harley riders who just go to the coffee shop ! lol 😂
@karlwebb8914 😉🙋🏻♂️
Hi Carl!
Thanks for the comprehensive report on the 1250GS. Information about the possibilities provided by the use of HEX GS911 is unexpectedly interesting.
However I wonder if using this device to interfere with the factory settings of the motorcycle (to activate the sports screen, or change the operation mode of the heated grips, for example) will not lead to canceling of the warranty? Have you asked your dealer similar questions?
All the best!
Waiting for more new videos,
Dmytro
Hi Dymtro, you are 100% correct, any changes to the OEM software results in no warranty. I’m going to cover this in the video as owners need to be aware of this before making changes. It seems even turning off self cancelling indicators via the gs911 unit voids our warranty, which is disappointing.
Each owner will need to decide for themselves
Kind regards Carl
Grate text. Tank you ingeniero !!! 🎉🎉
Thank you Bruno
Hi Karl, have you tried calibrating your quickshifter using the GS911.
You can also use it to add 5 stage heated grips which for me was great as it only came with two stage
Hi Stuart, brilliant advice, I will give that a try 🙋🏻♂️👍
Superb video! The GS may not be pretty but it’s a handsome beast….
Agree 👍
Thanks for sharing ,bought used 2017 last year. Love the bike hate the noise coming up from the front. 😮. Some is tire bridge stone which I am going to change. 😎🏍💨💨💨💨💨💨👍🏻🇨🇦🍻
Hi John happy Easter in Canada , yes the Bridgestone is the noisiest tyre option by a long way. A set of sports touring tyres removes 80% of the sound coming up the tunnel.
Greetings 👋 Carl
@@justthewayitis Michelin or Dunlop’s going on next 🤓😎🏍️💨💨💨👍🏻🇨🇦🍻. Happy Easter there
Great video Carl,
Only one issue. I’m really disappointed it wasn’t an hour long 😅
Just shared it. Boom!
Hi Craig, the first version was 1hour 18mins, so I had to chop a lot out , as always.
I’d probably be more successful with a TV series 🙋🏻♂️
Thank you 🙏
@@justthewayitis Awesome 👍
How many kms on the bike?
@TallyHoTech not enough that’s for sure 10k which if I lived where you do it would be very different with your great seasons . Craig did you ride a different 13 ? Was it any better than a rubbish you first tried?
@@justthewayitis I have ridden 4 1300s now. I rode the Trophy X version this week.
That is the enduro version with the taller sports suspension. It idled rough as guts but was fine otherwise. That one is not as stiff either. Shift assist was as usual. What’s this thing about the shift assist. That’s very interesting
See email Craig 🙋🏻♂️
I just got a 2023 GSA and it’s early days but so far it’s incredible. Had a CRF1100 adventure sport before it and the GS blows it away as a road bike anyway.
Only downside is there was no heated seat available on my build due to a factory issue
I won’t take it off road so will try some more road bias tyres when they’re due
Hi Ken, have fun with your GSA, 👍🙋🏻♂️ it’s a great bike
Carl
Thanks Carl - and just to say I’ve found your channel Really informative while I was shopping for GS it helped a lot with the research on them. Especially the ESA and mode videos you did 👍
Your very welcome Ken lots of owners are happy to help 👍
When you’re shifting up with the quick shifter, stay on the gas. Don’t roll the throttle off like you would normally do. I think you’ll find it shifts nicely.
I’ve tried pretty much every variation… nothing works
Hi Carl, once again a super video! I have one question about the dashboard update. What do I need to do the dashboard update? Tahnks in advance for an answer.
Hi Ralf, you can watch this video for more information
ruclips.net/video/hAutzN7wHSs/видео.htmlsi=wD_87U_v2zDJ0c3c
Best wishes Carl
It’s the dealers that let BMW down. Once the warranty is finished they start to find lots of things to fix. When it’s under warranty, “they all do that”.
Yes that’s probably very true 👍
Always liked my 1250GS (2019 Exclusive), it took me all over Europe during the three years I had it. Unfortunately, I didn't like the 1300GS and went on to buy a 2020 RS1250.
Hi Mike, the RS is a lovely bike too I of my main riding buddies has the 1200 version and is very happy.
Thanks for leaving a comment
Regards Carl
I love my R1250GS. One negative, my previous Goldwing was MUCH easier to put on the center stand than this much lighter beast.
Well you can put it in preload setting MAX when you arrive in the garage, it’s then easier to put on / off the centre stand
Carl
I too have trouble putting the bike on its stand (142lbs @5'7") I'm in great health. Maybe I'm a bit nervous in doing it.
I use the clutch lever on upshifts unless I’m revving it out like 6-7k RPMs where I find it smoother in the lower gears. Still nothing like the Multi V4S I had though.
Hi Paul, yep... I agree 👍
Hi Carl, I took your advice and purchased a set of plastic brackets and covers for a second screen however I’ve really struggled to find a set of rubber grommets and wondered what solution you were able to come up with please? Please keep the videos coming 🙂
Hi Waggler, I think the part number you need is 46638557871 , call your local dealership and just confirm the number, they can post them to you if needed. I think they were around 9€ for a set of 4.
Best wishes Carl
Hi Carl, that’s fab. Thank you for your help 👍
@Waggler1250 your very welcome 🙏
From personal experience, more comfortable than the 1250 RT & Harley Davidson street glide.
The GS Is quite remarkable !
Thank you for sharing your experience 👍
Carl
You can state V-tech or VVTI brother!
Most of us can follow along, especially if we are mechanically inclined!
Ok 👍
great video as always, also, just flashed my ECU, its not the same bike, it will walk away from any stock 1250, hands down............
That sounds really interesting
Interesting with the Gear Shift Assist Pro issues you mention - I have a 2019 GS Rallye & find upshifting absolutely brilliant, but in direct contrast to you the downshifting is very clunky. Go figure! I wonder whether Edward's solution will fix the issues for each of us??
Hi Tim, yes it’s a good question, the answer I hope to test later in the season.
Best wishes Carl
My gsa sept 22 72 plate has the ability to turn off the comfort indicators however i find them fine i dont rely on them i still cancell myself but i like the fact if i forget it finally cancels them
Hi Austin, yes they do work ok but when your on tour leading a group of riders it’s a real pain that the system self cancels when in fact I want them to remain on so the group can see where we are going next.
Also moving across 4 or 5 lanes of traffic I want them to stay on until I’ve completed the 4 lane changes. Not after the first lane change which currently happens.
Lucky you if you have the ability to turn your off
Best wishes Carl
Interesting what you say about front end feel. BMW claim they have improved it on the 1300 but how exactly? All the best, N from W.
Hi Nick, I can confirm there is indeed more feel from the front of the 1300, the new EVO ESA is very different to our 1250 models.
I have a video about this for later in the season 👍🙋🏻♂️
It’s raining ☔️ here
I picked my new GSA 1250 Adventure bike up 1st march and I love it. It is the first Adventure bike I have owned. It is Just right for some long tours for me and the wife it will be brilliant. I have swapped my indicators to for the ones you have and they make a big difference in safety. But I have just spoke to someone today a RUclips an and he was trying to extend his warranty for is 3 year old BMW 1250, and they said no because of the new indicators like we have. They said it is a modification and unless he puts the original ones back on they will not extend his warranty which I think is wrong and ridiculous. He has just done a video on it “ the black county biker” check it out. Love you videos so informative and interesting 👍
Hi Andrew, and congratulations on your new GSA, yes the indicator changes are a big improvement. My dealer hasn’t said a thing apart the from they think bmw should have done it in the first place.
Thank you for your feedback on the channel, much appreciated
🙋🏻♂️👍
One thing that for me has been a problem, is that my feet get hot after a while. Your toes won’t be too far from the exhaust of the cylinders, so I purchased some foot protection. These were made to protect your feet from the rain, but they will also keep some of the hot air from your feet. I have never heard of this problem from anyone else though. Sometimes Ihve to stop and take off my boots and put my feet into a stream or lake.
Owners report this problem if they use an aftermarket skid plate!
Is yours standard or does it have an aftermarket plate?
Carl
@@justthewayitis Standard skid plate. Maybe I’m just driving too slowly…
Hi, very interesting video that..can i ask, have you considered a fender extender or hugger at all? I dont own a gsa but its on my list as a possible next buy. I'd be interested what you think, thanks.
Hi Andy, if you are interested perhaps watch the two accessories videos on my channel, you will see what I have fitted on the front and rear 🙋🏻♂️👍
Of course there are more brands to choose from but this is what I decided on.
Best wishes 🙋🏻♂️
Will do, thanks
Carl I went front Multistrada to gs , I love the Multistrada but it was a animal to ride smoothly in town etc , straight roads a beast . But the gs is so smooth in town and in the curves for me so comfortable and no fatigue on long journeys . The thing with these top range bikes are the service prices ! My car is cheaper to service than my bmw , but hey the price of pleasure 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 great vids Carl 👍
Yes your absolutely right our cars are cheaper to service, but that’s the price we pay 💰
On my 2021 GSA I had my self cancelling indicators disabled by my BMW dealer so it is possible without a GS-911, using my GS-911 I have turned off the front amber running lights so they just work as indicators only.
Some dealerships seem more willing to make changes to the software, lucky you. Also owners have reported having to pay extra to have this feature turned Off which is disappointing. However I'm pleased to hear your good news for both the self cancelling indicators and the amber front lights 👍
My first car was a 70s Honda CIVIC cvcc... 1250cc, 50 hp, 28mpg... crazy!
Yes, when you think back to our first cars it’s amazing what these new motorbikes offer.
Mine was a Renault 4 with a gear lever going directly through the dashboard 🫣 845cc with probably less power than your Honda
Memories hey 🙋🏻♂️
Times 2 on the GSA screen. I'm 6'2" and don't have any issues.
Thank you for sharing 🙏
Nice video again, Carl!
Perhaps it’s because I’m a woman with pretty long hair, but I have people coming over to talk to me quite regularly - and I also get quite a few looks when riding by.
My bar risers come directly from BMW (though I haven’t felt the need yet to fit them).
I tried various tyres over the 3 years I have my ‘21 GSA, and am currently using Michelin Road 6. Brilliant tyres, but I don’t know how they perform at extreme lean angles since I prefer to keep a decent safety margin (my lean angles tend to stay limited to 35-36 degrees - I very rarely go past that).
My bike has remained issue free - the only annoying thing I find is that since I do a lot of engine braking, the transition from closed throttle to open throttle is often far too abrupt for my liking. I don’t know if that’s due to a design choice from BMW or due to the Euro5 regulations, but I am seriously considering having a professional ECU remapping done to my bike…
They just did a software upgrade on my mates bike for the engine braking. Maybe you're due this as well?
@@Simon-fm8yc oh that’s interesting! I’ll keep that in mind for my next service. Thanks!
Hi Jessica, yes perhaps a software update may address the issue you mentioned.
It’s worth a call to your dealership to ask !
Thank you for sharing 👍
Kind regards Carl
Thanks Simon 👍
@@justthewayitis Hello Carl. I mentioned this issue a few times already at my dealership. The first time they said that cleaning the intake valves would fix that. They did so, it was brilliant for a day then it returned the day after. I asked them about it again prior to the last maintenance check and they changed something about the shift ratio and the fuelling (sadly I forgot what it was exactly). The first 3000km since were brilliant and I thought it was fixed, but now recently it returned. It isn’t very noticeable in Rain mode, but in Road and especially Dynamic it gets annoying.
I do indeed hope that a software update will improve things.
The mechanics at my dealership have expressed doubt about the benefit of ECU remapping on a GS(A) so if it turns out to be not necessary, I will have at least spared myself considerable expense.
Can't wait to pick my 1250 GSA. End of April. I tested 1300 and it's a great bike but somehow it lost her "GS" personality. Too "mainstream" for me in terms of how it looks. However, from other points of view 1300 is better than 1250. At least on paper...
Well April is not far away 🙋🏻♂️ the wait is worth it 👍
Have you found a wind deflector to block the buffeting on the shoulders"
Sadly no
Still cruising on an 1150gs watching everyone throw money at the new best thing
I like the oil could boxers I've seen some with almost 300k miles pretty impressive
@ovlogic372 most motorbikes if looked after and receive regular oil changes will go a long way, with just a little love and attention.
Most bikes have more in them than people throw at them, definitely
Agreed 👍
Don’t bother with a GSA screen. I started with the original GSA screen but I can’t stand bufferting. Purchased a even larger touring screen and deflector. It was ok but not my thing. Then I purchased a small fly screen, problem solved. Clean air cog no noise 👍. For tall people go for a short screen.
Hi Phil, thank you for sharing your experience, i was about to buy a GSA screen to see what its like. Thank you Carl
The only thing I didn't like about the 3 GS' I've had regards the recall and service notifications is the PITA that is software updates. Nothing wrong with them as such but it's the complete lack of any certainty as to how long they'll take due to how BMW do them. The dealers have always been spot on when I've had to have one done and they're probably more fed up than I am but BMW need to sort this out so it's known upfront just how long they'll take so the owner knows whether to wait or get a courtesy bike as for many it's quite a ride to the dealership.
Yes I agree. Sometimes it takes 3 or more hours…. Sometimes just 50 mins to do a full update.
I think a lot depends on the internet connection speed that the dealership has in the workshop.
But you raise a good point 👍
Carl
We should be able to do them at home through the connected ride app. They could easily do this.
Now that’s a great idea 💡
Have HP with gold wheels. I've had 5 people stop and talk to me about it outside the local shops in 6 months, and various thumbs up. I don't think it's accurate to say people aren't interested in looks. These were all non bikers btw. 😊
Perhaps it’s because here in Germany there so many more GS/A bikes on the road than the other brands.
Or maybe I need to park in a different place 😉
I get 42 MPG no matter what! I used to get 39, but slowed down at 72 years old. I've never gotten 50 MPG!!!
Well as others have commented my calculations are in Imperial MPG. Some bikes just seem perfectly set up from the factory 🏭
Same. 46-47 U.S. mpg. It’s mostly due to having a big touring windscreen. Which matches up with 56 mpg imperial.
Thank you for clarifying 👍
Hi, what tyre pressure are you running on the Tourance Next 2 tyres? Thanks
36F 42R 2up
34F 40R 1up
Hello sir! Great video! I got the same bike as you. Mine is 2023 GS Ralley as well! I'm going back and fourth if I should buy the extended warranty or not. It's around 1300 USD for 4 extra years that would get me until 12/21/29. Do you think it's worth buying an extended warranty? Also, I ride a lot of back roads and get around 43mpg lol. But still love it!
Hi SCT, fyi, 43 mpg US is the same as our 54 mpg imperial mpg, so you are doing the same approximately 👍 as me in terms of average mpg. I think the extended warranty is worth it if you’re planning on keeping the bike for the next 5 years.
Carl 🙋🏻♂️
@@justthewayitis Appreciate the quick reply Carl! Awesome regarding the MPG. And yes, I plan to keep the bike for a while. It's a fun toy, not a daily driver. Mostly just weekends or Sunny days. Let's see, the only other thing I was thinking about getting was a device to reset the service engine soon light when it's time to change oil as I do most service myself. Second, are there any devices out there that can turn the alert off that also flash the ECU? I ask that because I always think these all run too lean from the factory and just always looking at long-term care for the bike. Lastly, getting a more open muffler for the bike to let it breathe better. No rush in replying, looking forward to your opinions brother.
Hi Scotty, the Hex GS911 unit is what I use for servicing and things like brake fluid change, checking fault codes, resetting service indicator messages and such. It’s a great tool.
Not sure if will do all things you want to do, be it can also allow you to change the startup screen to the M Sport one and add the sports screen which then shows lean angles and brake pressure and TC activation levels, it’s quite a lot of fun with these activated.
I’ve not seen a Dyno chart run on one to know if they do run lean, but an ecu flash would probably help.
Have a great weekend
Carl
@@justthewayitis Thank you so much for the info! Cool so it has the sport screen unlock function? That's crazy cool! If I change the screen to that it wouldn't void the warranty would it? I know an ECU flash can so I probably won't mess with that but the other stuff, I may be sold now on it!
Yes any change we make to the software void’s warranty 😔
I have a question for you since you had a multistrada, I want to get either a 1250 trophy or a 1290 sas. Should I stick with the multi or switch?
Depends on what you want from your motorbike, I have a good friend in the bike club with a 1290 SAS which he loves. I’ve ridden it and found it too tall a seat height and didn’t like it at all. But we all like different things.
Try and road test both on the same day.
Carl
Quick question, is there a way (I'm looking at a used 2022) to check if any package are on a used bike? Maybe with Vin number ?
Yes Vin / chassis number and then visit your local bmw dealer and then for a speciation list.
Or put your code in here
bimmer.work/
Thanks for the great reviews as always; the main issue with BMW is that they are not doing a good job in their "engineering" department, if they did, they would not have had all these recalls for the price they charge for their bikes. I owned a BMW 528i and that too had its poorly made parts out of recycled plastic, I mean, why on earth did BMW made a water pump with plastic? They still do. This is why people are switching to Japanese cars than these poorly made vehicles, be it their motorcycles or cars. Last, they want you to drain your engine oil every year, even if you only put 1,000 miles on it, because you own other bikes, so that too is a wasteful advice due to their "condensation" reasonings, even with the use of their own expensive BMW synthetic oil. It's all about ways to make more money at the cost of time and money to us that are none hardcore riders/racers.
You raise a good point, in the workshops the Japanese cars are the most reliable and problem free we see .
Carl
Hi Carl. I was happy to see a new video up from you. Thanks for such a well put together actual owner review. I do love mine, nearly identical to yours. I also have issues with the Shift Assist Pro, I would like to be able to just switch it off. I find it causes jerky shifting, it simply gets in the way and really doesn’t accomplish much for me other than making me feel like a racer. My last bike was a Harley Davidson Ultra Classic, that bike has a transmission so clunky someone riding on another bike can hear it when shifts are made how ever I was smoother with it than my BMW. I would rather do my own rev matching but that is just not possible with these new quick shifters. I have thought to just unplug the unit but that will probably throw a code on the dash. I really look forward to your modification for this. Thanks again. Cheers!
Hi Brian, thank you for sharing 👍, more to come regarding the shift assist later in the season
Carl 🙋🏻♂️
Can i.check how and what you are using to mount your insta x3 camera on your mirror?
Hi Yes, no problem. I use a clamp on the bars next to the mirror, then a Ram Mount extension, then on the top a mount that mates with the Inst360 camera. I also use a extension pole.
Hope that helps Carl
Thank you very much. Cheers
You are welcome 🙏
good evening and thanks for the Spanish subtitles, I follow you and you are number 1. I was shocked and 🥰 from the screen in sport model, 😂 I have the same motorcycle as you and I would sell a kidney to put that look on my screen, I will be waiting for more information
Hi Pedro, thank you for your support 👍, more information to follow about the sport screen, you will love it !!!
Carl
good night . I have fallen completely in love with the sport foundation on the screen of our motorcycle, you already know that here in Spain you have a mountain companion for whatever you need. I think you live in Germany and in September I want to take a trip to Germany (lohr a main) I think it is written like that, in case we do a route if the weather is good, greetings and waiting for all your videos and more now with substitutes
Hi Pedro, thank you 🙏 can I ask a question please
Are the subtitles ok ?
I am using different software and I hope they are ok
Carl
2:43
2:43
54mpg> I'm more like 45mpg. Though mine replaced a KTM1290 so I may be riding "more enthusiastically" ;)
Mine is Imperial MPG, if your in NA its a different calculation, probably much more similar
@@justthewayitisMine's definitely proper gallons, not US :)
I’m a member in a bmw riders club and we have over 400 members, most of whom ride GS. No one I know gets more than about 40-42 miles per gallon, including my own 2022 1250GSA. Assuming you’re referring to 1 gallon as 3.75 liters, and 1 mile as 1.6 km, I have no idea what to make of the disparity with your stated fuel efficiency.
Hello Devdude, good evening and welcome, well the UK and USA gallon is completely different. So I'm talking UK miles per gallon which is an Imperial Gallon = 4.55 litres. which converts to approximately 44/45 US miles per gallon. So we are in the same area of MPG. I do apologise for not making this clearer as I do have a lot of followers in NA I should have known better and put that conversion on the screen.
Also the various standard fuel maps of which there are 5 on the 2021 onwards bikes and the different emissions regulations between a Global GS and a NA GS, may all play a part in a slight variation between our motorbikes real world fuel economy.
Greeting to you and your BMW riders club members
kindest regards Carl
I have a 2023 1250 GS Trophy, and I consistently get 48 to 51, 52 MPG on US gallons. 2 lane highways doing mostly 50 to 65 mph and riding to get from point A to point B, with a purpose, not "for fun". People that ride for fun get much worse MPG's, due to their riding style. They are not riding for economy.
@feloniousmonk3049 thank you for sharing 👍
In terms of fuel economy I am never able to get more than 5.4-5.5 / 100... Maybe because of the terrain.
Fuel economy is affected by so many things, riding style, road surface, tyres, so perhaps it’s not the same for everyone, although one of the subscribers mentioned seeing over 70 mpg, while other mention regular low 40’s. What you currently get seems good 👍
I feel the GS is a very handsome bike, in an “industrial” way… If Darth Vader owned an adventure bike it would be a 1250GS.
And probably a Triple Black version 😉
Hi Carl, what's the specific model of WRS screen?
I think it’s called Endro Dark Smoke they have several tints and colours to choose from
Carl
I saw that there are two similar ones. The Enduro model and the Rallye model. Yours would appear to be the Rallye. Do you have a way to check if this is not a problem for you? Thank you.@@justthewayitis
Yes correct mine is the Rallye version which is narrower than the Enduro version. They originally had three tinted versions but the one here is the one I use….
www.wrs.it/en/windscreens/249972-windscreen-rallye-wrs-dark-smoked-bmw-r-1250-gs-adventure-2018-2023-0806881054794.html?BM045FS
Carl
How high is your bar riser?
30mm up and 24mm back 👍
Are you using imperial gallons for your mileage calculations? Your efficiency seems really high.
I think a lot has to do with the way I ride and the roads I ride. Here in Germany the roads are well surfaced and mostly empty, plus I carry a fair amount of corner speed.
Since he didn't answer the question, I'd say Imperial gallons. He's getting about 10 mpg more than I would expect.
Correct Imperial mpg
Link for small tinted screen, please
It’s on the WRS website site and the one I have is called Rallye dark smoked tint👍
www.wrs.it/en/windscreens/249972-windscreen-rallye-wrs-dark-smoked-bmw-r-1250-gs-adventure-2018-2023-0806881054794.html?BM045FS
@@justthewayitis thx
Why deactivate the self cancelling indicators ?
Moving through traffic in a city leading a group is a real pain when the indicators decide to self cancel
@@justthewayitis leading a group in a city.... And the followers do not use their blinkers.... Sorry I did not think of that :-))
Won’t be a issue for most owners but on tour with a group it’s a pain 👍🙋🏻♂️
According to vertu rotherham the drive shaft will be replaced every 36000 miles
Thanks Austin 👍
I can feel my front end