Best Shield in Elite Dangerous
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- Опубликовано: 25 окт 2019
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Seriously...you need to be imported as a hidden engineer in the game.
the best engineer of the game is apparently in RUclips :D
Definitely! I hope Fdev does this
"Realistically you're not taking damage 100% of the time."
Me and my Type-9 would like to disagree with that.
Upgrade to a T10
@@chrisklitou7573 same shit lol
@@no1baggiefan same shit?
My T10 has 9200 hull and 2000 Sheilds
@@chrisklitou7573 9000 ?
@@no1baggiefan Not tested it but might be possible . My T 10 has 3000 shields and 6000 hull
If FDev don't add a science officer NPC in your honor, I'mma be mad.
Does voice attack have him?
@@emilyhofland8219 That would be great. He's going to have to run a few thousand lines in the studio though....
best comment by far
For all your service to the elite dangerous community, you deserve an award, It would be easy to horde data for yourself in a game like this, Thank you so much for your contribution.
He now has his own station!
@@endsinvention1390 Woah, where? What's it called?
Agreed, i love this guy's videos. I'll click on others as well for extra input but i always make sure to watch his when i have questions.
So best Shield setup in the game:
- Prismatic, Reinforced, High Cap.
- Boosters: (x3) Resistance Augmented, Thermal Block.
- Extra Boosters: Heavy Duty, Super Capacitors.
Thanks for the cliff notes.
Thank you mate
Thank you
Thanks
If I swapped out the prismatic for a bi-weave with fast charge would the booster setup still be the same?
My whole Elite Dangerous playlist / save for later folder is basically this channel.
wow, a month of free time to show us the results of your software testing, really appreciate your time doing this, looks spot on to me Astro o7..Thank you
0:12 Did… Did someone just launch a seismic charge at that Corvette?
I noticed that too and wondered what it was :D
"If it can blow up asteroids, it should definitely work against this Corvette!"
@@1creeperbomb *Boing*
"...Never mind."
@@1creeperbomb let me target modules with those!
Tbh, I'd really want to see that be possible :D when shields are down anyways.
Dude ive appreciated your hard work on this game, doing tutorials, and seriously this is totally over the top.!
So.
Elite community having a lot of issues figuring out the best "in most situations" shields arguing back and forth between fast recharge bi weaves or prismatics with highest HP possible.
Conflict lasts for years with people arguing their points back and forth.
DTEA: "Hmmm....I'll make a program that will calculate every possible combo for shield types and all their engineering to see what the maths say"
Program: "Yeah STFU the best shield setup in the game:- Prismatic, Reinforced, High Cap.- Boosters: x3 Resistance Augmented, Thermal Block.- Extra Boosters: Heavy Duty, Super Capacitors. That'll do the trick in 90% of the situations. When you hit thargoids here's a second build. Anything else is wrong and you should feel bad for having it K BYE"
*Entire community claps in unison*
There it is. The answer to shields. That program mathematically laid down the fucking law.
Beautiful program! I can't wait to see the breakdown, I am also a software developer, thanks for sharing the code and working on a video to break it down. Reading it will be lots of fun, I'm glad we have that in common!
Perfect timing .... it's always worth dropping into your videos to find out what positive madness you are up to. Kudos
The fact you had the dedication to make such a video big props, I'm relatively new to the game so these types of videos are really helpful and to see someone put in so much work is really praiseworthy.
Thank you for your effort, CMDR. o7
I remember watching this back in the day. Glad it finally wiggled back into my feed
Thanks for that, your little app really did help me optimize my build. One upside of boosting resistances instead of raw shield is that the shield recarge stays nice and low. With my old setup my absolute shield values for each resistance was basically the same as now but the recharge was almost twiche as it is now with the optimized setup. My little Keelback now has total shieldvalues of 727 explosive, 560 kinetic and 605 thermal with a recovery of only 2:30 on bi weave wich is really nice as before it was over 5 minutes.
Yay, Team Powershell represent! Really interesting numbers!
Pretty sure this is the video that made me subscribe. Just came back for a refresher and once again this vid is gold - thank you so much.
Honestly love the effort put into this video. I don't know why I hadn't subbed to you sooner.
Really, really impressive work!! I've been a fan for a long time. Bravo!!
You are genius man!!!! It is only true love for science and game can make such videos appear! Wow.... guys... This video from D2EA has melted my heart =) Thank you!
Man you're the best! I really admire your dedication and efforts put into making this particular research and all the Elite Dangerous subject. Bravo!
Wow an entire powershell tool? Great work!!!
I know I’m a bit late to this video (newly minted Cmdr), but this was clearly a labor of love. Your enthusiasm and passion for this game, really shows. You’ve absolutely earned a long term subscriber here. I eagerly look forward to future content, as your my new “Go-to” for Elite Dangerous information.
Thank you so much for all of your work in elite. :)
D2EA, what you do for the ED community, and the level of support you bring to this game, is nothing short of astounding!
I love you! (but in a manly-man, doing manly things, in a manly "bro"-type way.. (if you get this reference, I'm buying you a beer, or several.. likely several..)) 😁
"I spent month of my free time... it's open source." Love people like you thanks for yoyr effort and for sharing!
Your spot on the next incoming engineer in elite is assure..
Love your work! Great job Commander!
Extremely well done. Just getting back into the game after almost three years and to see this heart and soul invested is why I'm invested in sticking with Elite.
Its too bad I can't get you gold or something on RUclips.
WOW
That, is dedicated research, you don't play elite, your living it, much respect, love your videos.
It took you a month of in depth analysis to find the best shield configuration?...
Subscribed. You deserve it.
Some people tinker for a day in Coriolis. Others spend a month making a program.
You making your program to figure all of this out, got me into programming! Thanks :) Learning Python. Very challenging for me as I suck at Mathematics lol xD
Love Your approach to things.
This one is very helpfull!
Cheers 😉
This is one of the coolest ED videos i've ever seen :D Thank you !!!
Judging the efficacy by the amount of time you've put into this that's a pretty definitive deep dive - and not an A rated in sight! Impressive work, thanks Cmdr! o7
Prismatics are all A rated (and such a pain in the butt for PVP combined with the reboot exploit)
@@XShaneX19 what exploit?
@@SemNome-ds1qy Hmm stupid wording on my part. It's not really that of an exploit but you can get 50% of your downed shield back with rebooting your ship. Even works with highly engineered prismatics which wouldn't go online in a lifetime on normal recharge.
Ofc while rebooting you are totally at the mercy of your enemy but if you have the hull to spare it can be a game changer in a fight.
It would be quite interesting to be able to generate a graph of the crossover point between bi-weave and prismatic, resulting in a plot of damage vs %time damage taken, above the line would be prismatic and below bi-weave.
That would be a 3d graph, so above and below the plane, but you could do 2d with one of the variables fixed.
Hmm, been only off by one Thermal Block on my Corvette build - but it's nice to be confirmed I guess.
Really good work, CMDR! o7
Holy crap lad this has been a lot of effort. Good show, Captain o7
You have my huge respect, thanks alot! esp for that software and scientific approach
Excellent work and many thanks
You are a very insightful fellow, thank you for your contributions to our experiences.
Wow, D2EA. Nice work!
So good. This is what makes this community the best!
I think we'd love a programming video from you!
i'd 2nd that
I subbed jus from the intro...
That dedication deserves so.
This is truly amazing work, I think I'm going to shop some DTEA swag to contribute
This just insane. But brilliant.
Putting that much effort into a shield efficiency calculator.
Just goes to show that us gamers are a different breed of human.
Agreed, Oh My Broother! Can’t even begin to tell you how appreciated all your hard work and dedication is. YOU’RE THE MAN! Many thanks, Dude.
This does kinda assume you're looking for combat. I'm actually curious what the 100% efficiency would look like, to simulate failing to evade an interdiction in a freighter like the type-9. (Since that is the sort of situation where you can be expecting all your combat time to be time in which you are getting shot at.)
EDIT: I suppose it'll be similar to other "High time on target" results there, so reinforced high-cap prismatics with heavy-duty capacitors and resistance augmented thermal blocks is a likely result.
Ok Iv been away to long
Impressive sir well done and the time taken
Thank you btw Dave. Great vis as always
The universe just got stronger, great content again Astro 07
Great video. Thanks for your work
Thanks for your hard work.
8:20 those damage type indicators at the top (Explosive/Kinetic/Thermal) - Those are from EVE's UI with the EM type edited out xD
Nice sim software tho, enjoying your videos! Keep up the good work Cmdr o7
Thankyou for this work cmdr! o7
Thanks for the program and the video. I will give it a try for sure.
Just a small suggestion: add a readme to the Git repository with a link to this video.
This so good it goes completely over my head.
Great video! How would this build scale to a medium ship with only 2 or 4 shield boosters? should I go all res. aug. or do half and half?
Thank you for all your interesting Videos!
Thank's man for sacrificing your time for us!
You are the elite guru. Thank you for your work.
I like this, interestingly I worked out months ago what I thought was best on spreadsheet, I came up with similar answer and have already fitted that build. Does your program take into account diminishing returns on resistance percentage when add more resistance
Absolutely brilliant !!
Every time you use Write-Host, god kills a puppy
Absolutely amazing work you have put in, but can it work the other way around? If you choose your modules, that it predicts how many damage you can take? I don't have a clue how you did it....very impressive!
Gday CMDR thanks for contributions to the community!! question are you able to make an app for this program
This is pretty cool! On ships with a smaller distro I've noted that using low-draw is a good option for bi-weave shields, especially if you don't have full pips to system.
Does the code take into account pips?
I thank you for the excellent work! I downloaded and confirmed my setup to be good for many scenarios, however, what about 4 pips to shields? I tend to throw all pips into shields with a mouse button macro when I see a hostile finally get their guns to bear.
With all you do and have done, where do you find the time to do anything new? Your a "GOD"!!!
I'm pretty new to the game relatively speaking but I always thought reinforced biweave fast charge was a good idea with mostly resistance augmented boosters.
Good to know I was partly right!
Awesome pro-tip ;)
I always use bi-weave shield to 1vs1 duell.
The problem with this is that it's a bad shield set up.
- Ignores the benefits of MJs with pips
- No real-life testing
- PAs exist
- Again, pips and MJs
- Fast Charge???
@Crazy Monkey Good point, let me clarify:
MJs = 'megajoules' ; the amount of shield hitpoints. MJs are your only protection against absolute damage (damage that ignores resistances).
The reason I mentioned pips is that with 4 pips to SYS (systems capacitor), the shield strength is basically multiplied by 2.3~ times - so a shield with 1000MJs will have 2300 MJs with 4 pips instead of 0. You can see here why having MJs is important then, because the difference ends up being multiplied.
PAs = 'plasma accelerators' ; a very popular and powerful weapon which does a large amount of 'absolute' damage. These are a factor because they will essentially negate the resistances of the shields in this video.
All of the shields presented in this vid are sub optimal in any realistic scenario. Even if a single small ship npc is shooting at you, a settup that uses 6 boosters (4 heavy duty and two resistance) and 2 heatsinks can fit a lot of shield cell banks which will regen the shields back.
@@LIntouchableChannel It also doesn't take into account cap drain or pip pressure at all either. Any player who's ever flown a hybrid build will know how difficult it is to keep your SYS juiced while also putting PAs downrange and permaboosting. "Use reinforced biweaves with fast charge! It's optimal!" Um... yeah, no. No thanks.
@@fakenewts1031 Yeah this too... on a big ship no less, which will be taking constant fire.
Wow broski amazing job you're the best
wow. you are the biggest ed nerd ever. there should be an "down to astronomy port" somewhere... huge respects for your time and effort put into this.
I just thought of something D2EA
Could you make this also work in reverse? And let us plug in a setup to see what situations it's best at handling based off just damage types and effective dps?
BEST WORK !! CONGRATS
Dude, you're really smart. Great channel.
That was alot of math. Thank you for you sacrifice of so much of your free time. Commanders like you are the ones who keeps guys like us interested in this game
o7!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I really liked this video. Two Thumbs Up.
Keep up the nice work! You should update the script to take the ship's power distributor and pip management into consideration.
this
Glad I already was running basically this. It makes sense tbh if you are use to min maxing in many games.
Daaaam youre A Smart Rocket Scientist!
AMAZING. you sir are a treasure. 07 Astro.
Would love to see included shield cell banks and guardian shield reinforcement modules. I would suppose that cell banks will tend to function better with high resistance instead of heavy duty and shield reinforcements would tend to work better with bi weave fast charge. I was running the numbers in my conda a few days ago, with shield cell banks used i gain an extra 400 shield health because of the resistances if i go full resistance augmented to 60+% no heavy duty, but x2 heavy duty 50+%resistance adds aprox 300 extra constant shield health compared to full resistance. I would like to know wich combination is better if we factor in the recharge rate and the manuverability of the ship. Also would like to know if a prismatic is still worth it after adding some guardian shield reinforcements, even in a slow ship.
Nice work! And thank you for all the time you put into this 👍
The interesting question is what is the best shield for my MW budget and how well do guardian shield reinforcements perform then
Thanks Bro 👍💪
Any comment on Shield Cell Banks and which Engineering and Experimental to put on them?
Really compliments for the detailed analysis, I don't understand why, with the same configuration described (primastic reinforced hi cap, 3x res augmented thermo block, 5x heavy duty super capacitor as shield health I have 6958 while you have 5385 (hitpoints); maybe is not the same thing? Or maybe I got lost and you use prismatic not A rated?
Thank you
Are the results the same on small ships or just the vette
I've become a big fan of low draw experimental effects on shields, because it makes more optimal use of the power going in to recharge the shields. Bi-weaves are useless if your capacitor bottoms out. This is something the 'math' overlooks, and that is how long you can sustain the recharge rate of the shields in an engagement. it's like looking only at the dps and fire rate of a machine gun and ignoring the downtime caused by frequent jamming.
I'm all for bi-weave, low draw, resistance mods on my shield tank ships like the Courier, simply because it's far more optimal use of capacitor power flow in a sustained engagement. If i'm going to get hammered so hard my shields break, it's probably not going to make that huge a difference whether I'm using bi-weaves or thicc bois at that point due to combat assymetry. Fast charge bi-weaves may be better for armor tanks merely for the break recovery rate, simply because any protective coat over my paint is better than none, and who cares about the shield capacitor in a Federal Doorstop anyway.
Awesome. You should feature this CMDR DTEA on Hello Dave!... Oh hang on
What the hell, guy, you are soooo genius, your passion is unbelievable. @fdev, pick this guy!
Reassured that my general build Corvette used a build pretty close to your very clever code suggested
This man is a genius!
Interesting. After going from a corvette to krait mk2, I noticed my typical shield mods weren't working. So I've been running bi-weave reinforced similar to this video and it seemed to be acceptable at least. but this gives me some credence.
Awesome work mate ! Quick question, the data is calculated with how many pips in System power distributor?
2 pip in system. (On average)
you are awesome man thanks
New here. I heard you in the beginning of the video and hit both Sub and like buttons. Honestly I like the quality of videos so I think you deserve.