I'm not a Conservative. I do agree however that Conservatives often times misrepresented both by the media and the bad apples. I usually prefer Conservatives and Liberals who have the similar mindset to JJ in terms of how they're rational debaters and not one of those extremely ideologically driven people.
I'm a little of both liberal and conservative. I understand both sides and I'm appalled at both. So everyone is mad at me, and I I'm a little mad at everyone else ;) I am very pleased that not everyone thinks of conservatives as evil people, though. I've been fighting against these stereotypes for decades.
Absolute bullshit lol. Any "good" conservative will let their evil conservative friends hold power as long as it gets them what they want. Being a racist, homophobic monster isn't an issue in the conservative "big tent", and anyone who is fine with that is no better then the trash.
@@BlueButtonFly wrong. My conservative group of friends are all multi racial and LGBT. You need to meet more people. Don't just assume an entire group of people are all exactly the same. That's just as bad as being a racist. S
I really sympathize with JJ here, because I also am also definitely more right-leaning, especially economically (socially I'm pretty moderate). It is really annoying and degrading to hear other day people question my legitimacy as a credible person because I am more conservative, and it really discouraged me finding other gay people to meet and socialize with because I knew I would not be liked because of my views.
I hear you. I'm pretty liberal socially and less-so (but still liberal) politically... but I think that distinction you identified is part of that instant reaction, i.e. there's a difference between social conservatism and political conservatism or social liberalism and political liberalism. People kinda forget that, and I get why... parties tend to base platforms on both social & political values, so they get convoluted. I do also think though that being in Canada saturated with American media we can also forget that Conservative doesn't necessarily mean Republican, or Liberal doesn't necessarily mean Democrat.
I’m gay and conservative as well, and I find it discouraging how aggressive and intolerant some leftist people (both straight and gay) can react to this. You all need to chill, and learn to respect different opinions, no one should be compelled to support a specific political ideology because of their sexual orientation
@RikkiTikkiTavi I agree, if you want to regulate someone else's life, like with drugs and person life, you aren't a real conservative. And if you are against the 1st and 2nd amendment, then you aren't a real liberal.
@@Gwenhwyfar7 that is no true Scotsman fallacy. Because most conservatives are anti gay and anti abortion because they knew it is immoral acts and already banned like Uganda. Conservatives are against drugs because it harm society just like abortion, homosexuality. Most liberals are for gun control and abortion because Europe is doing fine with these issue. Liberals use abortion as freedom just like homosexuality as freedom. Liberals use gun control to prevent gunshots like every europe countries have gun control and few gun death than USA. Abortion rights supporters argue in name of privacy which it is same arguments that legalize gay marriage and drug use. People say abortions are not to be restricted by government, but it is name of freedom. By your logic conservatives who oppose abortion are not true conservatives because abortion is same privacy issue just like homosexuality, drugs, etc. Not every liberal are pro gay or pro choice but they are few compare to majority of liberal people. There are pro choice conservatives but it happen outside of us area like Western Europe. Liberal argue against guns because atheistic Western Europe have gun control law, meanwhile religious countries you can buy gun/weapons like normal like Somalia.
@@shaunlopes1778 Just because you don't agree with a practice, doesn't mean you think it should be regulated by the government. Abortion isn't like those other issues, because it's not just about personal choice or "a woman's body", it's killing another being without their consent. For instance, I don't think suicide should be "illegal", but I still agree murder should be a crime. You think homosexuality harms society, but do you really want to outlaw it? There's another word for that one. I don't think anyone can call themselves liberal or conservative and think it's okay for the government to regulate our own personal lives.
Gay's aren't just a one issue voters. There are things in our lives just as important than a parties track record on Gay rights. I think the democrats certainly pander to minorities and relied on that to try to win in 2016 but found that people are a lot more complicated than that. People don't vote purely based on sexuality and they shouldn't
Why is it that J.J. (who I love by the way) says that he wants people to live freely from government intervention in their lives and yet supports the government imposing it's will on something that people who are also opposed to government intervention into their lives do (smoke pot, for those of you who haven't guessed) It just perplexes me that he and other conservatives generally dislike government interventions when the government intervenes for things that really matter in society (gun control, social issues, environmental regulations...) But support government intervention into things that in the grand scheme of things won't really make a difference at all (pot, abortions, marriage equality, trans rights... ) Not that I'm not super aware of J.J.'s views on many of theses issues (I just know that he's pro gay marriage and anti pot) but this whole idea of true freedom to live one's life that is often preached by the conservatives is stepped on with meddling in peoples lives that required no government intervention and ignoring issues that needed the government to step in and lend a hand. Thoughts?
Supporting weed prohibition is impossible without hypocrisy. JJ thinks the government should forcibly compel me to choose *more* dangerous recreational drugs? Forcibly prevent me from making the choices I think are best for me? Alcohol abuse is rampant in the gay community, and weed can't poison you or give you cancer. I get the feeling that drunks project their feelings of regret for giving themselves health problems onto weed, and that's why they support prohibition.
The way you phrased that shows what liberals find important, but at the same time, you aren't respecting what conservatives find important, belittling it even. The way I see it pot IS addictive, and saying it isn't that addictive, is like saying pizza is healthier than Chinese food, at the end of the day it's still junk food. I, a conservative think they should what they did to other drugs. Adderall(Cocaine), Allergies(Meth). Plus, with people mostly using it for anxiety purposes. I think we should put more focus on public mental health facilities. Dealing with the problem and not becoming dependent on it. I want the best for people and I KNOW that truly happy people don't take drugs even recreational ones, they search for what they can do for society, really put they're mark on the world even if that means being special to just one other person.
@@johnperic6860 I mean the way that the facts explain it is, this statement is shared the world and my father who is a doctor that scientifically speaking something is considered alive when it has brain activity which is around 4-5 weeks so abortion beyond then should be legally considered murder whether you think so or not.
I'm straight and conservative leaning, but i will say its always a pleasure to watch the reactions of gay people /friends who find out I really don't care about their sexual preference. If u believe and personal freedoms and/or the nonaggression principle ( as a lot of people in the US do) it actually fits perfectly into ur ideology. You can still not be comfortable with the overt sexualization, but their is really no reason other than temperament why it doesn't fit.
Very good! I have envolved on The issue OF gay marriage, etc. I am straight conservative and believe EVERONE'S rights should be respected and government should stay out of peopl's bedrooms!
I am not a conservative, though I approve of this video. It is nice to see two oppositions sitting together and having a mature and even-handed conversation about this topic. I was pleasantly surprised, with regard to the topic, at hand. Keep up the great videos, guys! #gaycentralist
I'm a straight conservative Christian but support gay marriage and have close gay friends and family. I'm more right leaning on manyt issues like gun rights, illegal immigration, abortion, but more moderate to liberal on issues like drug prohibition, same sex marriage, military intervention, and I also support social welfare programs like social security and Medicare. technically an independent but have voted republican the last few election
J.J. thank you for representing my point of view here. It's been very difficult lately to ignore the hate mongering lately, and if I so dare lightly emphasize a polarizing point to my friends and peers, it's misconstrued and I'm reprimanded. It's just nice to know there are more of me. :)
JJ rocks. Thanks to both of you for taking on a topic people stay away from and for giving both view points validity. As a gay conservative I find it is often scarier to "come out" as conservative than it is to come out as gay. And one comment i would like to make is that gay marriage seems to me more like a conservative ideal - getting the government out of our personal lives and allowing people to make the decisions that best suit them. I don't think that conservatism is incompatible with the LGBT community at all. Anyway thanks again guys!
I'm coming from the point of view of a straight american liberal who was always taught that saying that your socially conservative was just a friendly way of saying that you hate LGBT. With the political crisis in the U.S. being at full swing right now I'm being told to listen to other points of views and I think that that's a good idea. I've learned a lot from JJ and it's easy for me to accept his conservative view points because he live outside of the U.S., I know that he doesn't hate LGBT, and he's not blindly following an ideology.
well if you grew up in a situation where you generally tolerate other people's beliefs are freedoms anyway, "socially conservative" to you might just harken back to that (in your point of view) basic decency.
To be fair we do use these general terms to predict, atleast vaguely, how others may think. That being said: all people *are* multifaceted, and jumping to conclusions on one's opinion, particularly with specific issues, isn't always the best idea.
im curious as to his reasoning behind being against weed being legalized - i’m not trying to be like combative, i just haven’t been exposed to that side of the argument in the same way as the pro-legalization perspective
A true Conservative should understand that "marriage" is a religious and social institution, not a state institution. The Gov't should have as close to nothing to do with the free choices of people as possible, in so far as who they choose to "marry" themselves with, and how that marriage is arranged. Sure, marriage does have many beneficial effects on society in terms of income earned per household, child poverty, drop out rates, crime rates, etc. So, there is some room for the Gov't to offer incentives to people within society to get married rather than stay single or in an unmarried relationship indefinitely. However, that doesn't grant the Gov't the right to control the manner in which that marriage is arranged or who decides to get married to each other. In other words, a Conservative would rather the (Federal) Gov't stay out of inter-personal relationships altogether, and let society operate on it's own. I'm a Conservative and I don't want the Gov't telling anyone who they can or cannot get married to. With all that being said, it is not necessarily a "Right" to get married to anyone you want. It's a "Right" to enter into a legal or social contract with anyone who is of legal age and able to make decisions for themselves. That means it is the job of the Gov't to protect and enforce contracts between individuals, and a marriage between two consenting adults is essentially a social contract. Not necessarily a legally binding contract, but a social contract nonetheless. When Republicans try to use the Gov't to impose their own social and religious beliefs on the whole of society, they are not acting Conservatively, in terms of Gov't control over life. They are acting "Conservatively" in terms of their own personal religious institution or their own social belief structure. However, that's not true Conservatism in terms of "governance".
I'm the trifecta 1. American, 2. Conservative and 3.Straight. It irks me when people try to put me in a box. Independent politics has killed any sort of helpful conversation. Ill be honest I had the "traditional" opinion on gay rights issues.. until big shock, i met and was exposed to gay people, some of my best friends in fact. and the way I've come to reconcile the two is simple. Conservatives believe in the liberty of the individual. you love who you love and its as simple as that everyone is equal under the law, that is all we can every really hope to be.Interesting conversation guys..
On our first election day together, my boyfriend didn't want me to know he votes Republican. Same about me. We both feared the other would break up because liberal gays are intolerant.
Now, were you (J.J.) discussing Conservativism from an American perspective or Canadian? Because I was under the impression that Conservative in Canada is quiet different that being American Conservative. For myself...I tend to walk he middle road.
I am a bisexual women, it’s been easy to come out. I am also conservative on a pretty liberal area. People would turn against me if I came out in that regard.
Love the content, I hope y’all do a deep dive into politics in the gay community. I know that it’s not really your style but I could t think of a better pair
I'm neither for or against gay marriage being legal, because marriage is a spiritual union, and shouldn't be under government control. There shouldn't be laws surrounding it.
The US has a reactionary/conservative (far-right) party (Republicans) and a conservative/liberal (center-right) party (Democrats). As a result, the US tends to settle on center-right policies, which I find appalling. I'd like to see us have a progressive party (center-left) and a conservative party (center-right) so that compromise is centrist policies: that is those that combine gov't and market policies to find the best solutions, and apply logic to society. I happen to be highly socially libertarian and center-left economically, which in the context of the US makes me without a party, though the closest are the Green Party and the progressive wing of the Democratic Party (as a result I am a Bernie Sanders supporter who would vote for Jill Stein if Hillary wins the nomination). [If you weren't aware, Hillary is economically centrist at best and conservative at worst, while being much too socially authoritarian for me. Bernie's (somewhat) center-left economically and socially somewhat closer to me.] Being a conservative in Canada must be quite different from what we call conservative (reactionary) in the US today. We have the radical elements in the GOP ready to ban abortion and gay marriage, rip apart market based healthcare reform, drastically slash taxes for the wealthiest people in the country, and so much more. I would hope that and expect JJ is actually conservative and not reactionary.
Billie Potts the republicans aren’t far right and the democrats aren’t center right. That’s an appalling way to see the parties. They aren’t even reactionaries.
Wow, fascinating topic. Great work you too. JJ, a "gay conservative" does seem like an oxymoronic term. My question is, and I'm sorry if this shows my ignorance, I am American after all, I know the stigma associated between one calling one's self a Republican/conservative and Democrat/liberal here in the states, but do they have the same meaning in Canada? Especially with the rise of the whole neocon movement, has the meaning of Canadian Republican (is that a thing?) vs American Republican diverged into different meanings? Adam, the US is in such ridiculous turmoil for more reason than those two blanket ideal/terms, you are correct, however, it does have a lot to do with it. I'm waiting for the bible belt to secede and become Jesusland while the rest of us can become the United States of Canada. Hawaii can come too.
+Matteo Smith Basically the way it works in Canada is that our version of the Republican Party is simply called "The Conservative Party" and our version of the Democratic Party is simply called the "The Liberal Party." This can sometimes get confusing, so you sometimes hear Canadians talk about "small-c conservative" or "small-l liberals" to refer to people who have liberal/conservative BELIEFS as as distinct from people who support/are part of the formal political parties. There will obviously be some differences, but for all intents and purposes Canadians and Americans mean the same thing when they talk about conservatives and liberals. Being a conservative (and especially a Conservative) in Canada carries with it all the same negative stereotypes as being a conservative or a Republican in America, particularly in the gay community.
+J.J. McCullough You are adorable and I love your views. You challenge me and my thinking and that says a whole lot. Adam, I love that you and J.J. Can find common ground in something more than just being gay and that is awesome and gives me hope. I enjoy this series and its something I look for every single week.
To be honest I am a Christian who if I was old enough would have voted against gay marriage, but I was never actively trying to hurt or insult anyone. There was that weird day in middle school where I decided to be super hot so I could turn and save everyone. But I was really weird, and a bit narcissistic. What I'm trying to say is, I think it shows a lot of character when you disagree with someone and can still go about your day.
Im a straight conservative, but i reject social conservatism completely... im pro choice, vegan, atheist, pro lbgt marriage, pro death with dignity, pro drug legalisation. Im a hardliner on immigration, very strict and fiscally conservative. I agree that social conservatism pisses me off more than anyone... but after Orlando... who were the guys who stepped up? Conservatives... when the right evolves on gay marriage, i think there will be a lot of conversions. I think the term 'rational conservative' should be the new label
@@theservius2913 If he believes in cutting back social programs like school funding, lowering taxes for rich people so that they'll spend that money on jobs instead of just using it to increase automation, and stock buybacks and believe in loosening restrictions on the way corporations treat their workers, they're conservative.
Though you don’t seem very much like a Republican or what we typically see of conservatives here. You are what I would call a reasonable conservative. I identify as a different brand of conservatism, mainly American Constitutional Conservatism. It is very much more liberal than many conservatives in the US, but our founding principles were very liberal. We just have been taking our sweet ol’ time in putting them into practice. There are conservative interpretations of the Constitution in terms of economics, but many of them would have to concede a number of points to the liberals in terms of prohibitions of personal liberties. Many conservatives would prefer to ban things that seem scary like Marijuana, but Liberals would argue for personal freedom, plus we starve cartels of funding in Mexico and South America. I do support some common sense gun legislation, but I also firmly believe in gun rights ownership which is actually a lefty position. As the more left wing a position is the more it believes a particular thing should be accessible to the public and decentralized. Gun ownership rights, left wing. Gun ban for civilians- right wing. Why cause right wing is complete consolidation of power and rigid hierarchies while left-wing is equal and decentralized. If we had really left wing justices on the supreme court they would actually interpret the 2nd amendment as socialism. The right to bear arms would mean upon request the government is required to give you a firearm.
Being a big liberal believer (though not very left wing American bc I think they are kinda corrupt) I support JJ for being a Gay Conservative which isn't very common
I am personally I am economically centrist and pretty Liberal (not woke though, mainly what people deem 'classical liberal'). I am fairly politically open, but as for party's as we know them....the tories over here have NEVER been my thing and most US republicans policy's seem abit...polarising for me
I live in Ontario, and the vast majority of people I know are socially liberal but fiscally conservative. They mostly vote liberal, not because they want to see outrageous spending and deficits but because they know that society is progressive and not stagnant. I could go on but I'll stop for now lol.
President Obama was against gay marriage until 2012. Although the political spectrum has evolved and platforms have changed, President Abraham Lincoln who emancipated the slaves was a Republican. President Grant and the Congress that banned slavery and gave citizenship to African-Americans were Republican, and even the Civil Rights Act of 1964 would not have passed without significant Republican support because the Democrats at the time were divided on the issue. Yes, people will say that the party platforms have changed but although the Republicans came to power in the 1860s as huge supporters of tariffs, and although since at least the 1920s they have moved to the reverse of that with free-trade, President Donald Trump took the Party back to endorsing tariffs for a hot minute, so things can go back and forth. I also think that the fact that the Democratic Party can go from being the most pro-racism and pro-segregation party to the party most identified with civil rights activism within only a matter of decades, shows that these things can change dramatically in a relatively short time because of how fast new generations come along and challenge the old. The core economic values of the Democratic Party today are essentially the same as those of President Franklin D. Roosevelt in the 1930s though modern Democrats would say his policies were racially insensitive and indeed many of his allies and supporters were staunch white supremacists. So, J.J. can clearly agree with the core economic and philosophical principles of the Conservative Party while having a different opinion from its most recent Prime Minister on this or that issue, especially since J.J. is relatively young compared to most Conservative politicians it isn't that surprising that he would be to the Left of them on certain social issues. We should also remember that the Canadian Conservative Party is different from the U.S. Republican Party and in my opinion especially in recent years Canadian Conservatives as a whole seem more likely to elect leaders that Americans might call socially liberal and fiscally conservative, somewhat similar to some of the popular Republican Governors and U.S. Senators of New England in the Northeast United States.
Americans watching this is hilarious you do know that US Conservatives ≠ Canadian conservatives. Canadian Conservative is much more like US democrats Liberal Canadians is similar to US liberals New Democratic Party is unlike any other party, but its more aligned with democratic socialism
Bob The Pumpkin . Yes ,he is very' smart and quite convincing to the standard people ! But he is bias, ethnocentrist ,arrogant, self-centered and monocultural etc . So wrong ( a lot of mistakes) and misleading in his vlogs !
I feel sorry for Canada.....This guy makes Canada a joke. How can you be gay and be conservative? Only thing I want is him to stop discussing US politics. I cringe every time.
The only conservative policy I disagree with is the environment. The American Republican party is the only party in the world that discredits climate change and that's fucked up.
Considering the interim CPC leader supports gay marriage, it might be easier to be a conservative here. Now, that might change if Kenney gets the job. In America, the GOP wants to overturn gay marriage and discriminate against transgender people.
***** No you are not being honest at all. I said that "some" elements in the GOP want to move on. We can quibble about how large a section of the party that is and I wouldn't disagree if you said it is small(or even very small) but to pretend that utterly no one in the GOP doesn't want to go and refight the issue is patently dishonest.
I'm a lesbian conservative but I don't really agree with either party for gay marriage. I think it should be left up to the states. The feds should not have gotten involved at all. But, the liberals already won in 2015 so there is no reason to state that as being a reason to support the left.
@@johnperic6860 There you go! I would be very happy with your scenario. If one church won't wed you, just go to another that will! Although, I do believe court marriages should still be considered legitimate marriage. I understand that some people don't want a religious marriage gay or straight. Therefore, I think court marriages ought to be up to the state gov. not the federal gov.. (Assuming we're discussing American politics & not Canadian politics of course)
😳😲😲😲 2:25 idk how it works in Canada, but that is the most ignorant thing I have heard from JJ, understanding the political system in the U.S. and its history and making that statement is just pure ignorance on so many levels.
thats so funny, the conservative guy dresses more like a liberal and the liberal dresses super conservative
What does that even mean?
I'm not a Conservative. I do agree however that Conservatives often times misrepresented both by the media and the bad apples. I usually prefer Conservatives and Liberals who have the similar mindset to JJ in terms of how they're rational debaters and not one of those extremely ideologically driven people.
Same, simple answer but true.
I'm a little of both liberal and conservative. I understand both sides and I'm appalled at both. So everyone is mad at me, and I I'm a little mad at everyone else ;) I am very pleased that not everyone thinks of conservatives as evil people, though. I've been fighting against these stereotypes for decades.
Absolute bullshit lol. Any "good" conservative will let their evil conservative friends hold power as long as it gets them what they want. Being a racist, homophobic monster isn't an issue in the conservative "big tent", and anyone who is fine with that is no better then the trash.
@@BlueButtonFly wrong. My conservative group of friends are all multi racial and LGBT. You need to meet more people. Don't just assume an entire group of people are all exactly the same. That's just as bad as being a racist. S
@@Gwenhwyfar7 Are you a liberal conservative or a conservative liberal?
I'm a liberal and there are MANY things I disagree with liberals.
Yep. Welcome to centrism, friend. We pretend we are liberals when apparently the goalpost is being pushed more and more left.
Liberals in Europe are usually conservatives funnily enough
I really sympathize with JJ here, because I also am also definitely more right-leaning, especially economically (socially I'm pretty moderate). It is really annoying and degrading to hear other day people question my legitimacy as a credible person because I am more conservative, and it really discouraged me finding other gay people to meet and socialize with because I knew I would not be liked because of my views.
I hear you. I'm pretty liberal socially and less-so (but still liberal) politically... but I think that distinction you identified is part of that instant reaction, i.e. there's a difference between social conservatism and political conservatism or social liberalism and political liberalism. People kinda forget that, and I get why... parties tend to base platforms on both social & political values, so they get convoluted.
I do also think though that being in Canada saturated with American media we can also forget that Conservative doesn't necessarily mean Republican, or Liberal doesn't necessarily mean Democrat.
I’m gay and conservative as well, and I find it discouraging how aggressive and intolerant some leftist people (both straight and gay) can react to this. You all need to chill, and learn to respect different opinions, no one should be compelled to support a specific political ideology because of their sexual orientation
I think that is something both left and right wingers need to do. Drop blind ideological support, and listen and converse with others
You can’t be gay and conservatives.....dude stop dreaming & go find your own party.
@@xav215xl7 You are exactly the kind of people who should disappear for a better society
Oh you poor thing. We just feel sorry for you, trying to be a part of an ideology that simply doesn't approve of you.
@@xav215xl7 Lol good one, keep trying until you convince someone
Just like not every liberal is anti-gun or pro-choice, not every conservative is anti-gay or pro-pot prohibition.
@RikkiTikkiTavi I agree, if you want to regulate someone else's life, like with drugs and person life, you aren't a real conservative. And if you are against the 1st and 2nd amendment, then you aren't a real liberal.
@@Gwenhwyfar7 that is no true Scotsman fallacy. Because most conservatives are anti gay and anti abortion because they knew it is immoral acts and already banned like Uganda. Conservatives are against drugs because it harm society just like abortion, homosexuality.
Most liberals are for gun control and abortion because Europe is doing fine with these issue. Liberals use abortion as freedom just like homosexuality as freedom. Liberals use gun control to prevent gunshots like every europe countries have gun control and few gun death than USA.
Abortion rights supporters argue in name of privacy which it is same arguments that legalize gay marriage and drug use. People say abortions are not to be restricted by government, but it is name of freedom. By your logic conservatives who oppose abortion are not true conservatives because abortion is same privacy issue just like homosexuality, drugs, etc.
Not every liberal are pro gay or pro choice but they are few compare to majority of liberal people. There are pro choice conservatives but it happen outside of us area like Western Europe.
Liberal argue against guns because atheistic Western Europe have gun control law, meanwhile religious countries you can buy gun/weapons like normal like Somalia.
Libertarianism is a right wing ideology lol
@@shaunlopes1778 Just because you don't agree with a practice, doesn't mean you think it should be regulated by the government. Abortion isn't like those other issues, because it's not just about personal choice or "a woman's body", it's killing another being without their consent. For instance, I don't think suicide should be "illegal", but I still agree murder should be a crime. You think homosexuality harms society, but do you really want to outlaw it? There's another word for that one.
I don't think anyone can call themselves liberal or conservative and think it's okay for the government to regulate our own personal lives.
@@schellargschichta1638 It's very far right economically, fairly center left socially.
Holy shit is that the Canadian dude?
Yes. Yes it is. He is gay, conservative, and Canadian. He is so much.
@@Jacobzx he is gay not conservative
@@schellargschichta1638 both
@@Jacobzx vegan, gay, conservative
Gay's aren't just a one issue voters. There are things in our lives just as important than a parties track record on Gay rights. I think the democrats certainly pander to minorities and relied on that to try to win in 2016 but found that people are a lot more complicated than that. People don't vote purely based on sexuality and they shouldn't
Absolutely bro. Well said.
Why is it that J.J. (who I love by the way) says that he wants people to live freely from government intervention in their lives and yet supports the government imposing it's will on something that people who are also opposed to government intervention into their lives do (smoke pot, for those of you who haven't guessed) It just perplexes me that he and other conservatives generally dislike government interventions when the government intervenes for things that really matter in society (gun control, social issues, environmental regulations...) But support government intervention into things that in the grand scheme of things won't really make a difference at all (pot, abortions, marriage equality, trans rights... ) Not that I'm not super aware of J.J.'s views on many of theses issues (I just know that he's pro gay marriage and anti pot) but this whole idea of true freedom to live one's life that is often preached by the conservatives is stepped on with meddling in peoples lives that required no government intervention and ignoring issues that needed the government to step in and lend a hand.
Thoughts?
Supporting weed prohibition is impossible without hypocrisy. JJ thinks the government should forcibly compel me to choose *more* dangerous recreational drugs? Forcibly prevent me from making the choices I think are best for me? Alcohol abuse is rampant in the gay community, and weed can't poison you or give you cancer. I get the feeling that drunks project their feelings of regret for giving themselves health problems onto weed, and that's why they support prohibition.
The way you phrased that shows what liberals find important, but at the same time, you aren't respecting what conservatives find important, belittling it even.
The way I see it pot IS addictive, and saying it isn't that addictive, is like saying pizza is healthier than Chinese food, at the end of the day it's still junk food.
I, a conservative think they should what they did to other drugs. Adderall(Cocaine), Allergies(Meth).
Plus, with people mostly using it for anxiety purposes. I think we should put more focus on public mental health facilities. Dealing with the problem and not becoming dependent on it. I want the best for people and I KNOW that truly happy people don't take drugs even recreational ones, they search for what they can do for society, really put they're mark on the world even if that means being special to just one other person.
what rights do trans people not have in north america?
@@johnperic6860 I mean the way that the facts explain it is, this statement is shared the world and my father who is a doctor that scientifically speaking something is considered alive when it has brain activity which is around 4-5 weeks so abortion beyond then should be legally considered murder whether you think so or not.
@@johnperic6860 wtf your looking at the dictionary go to cdc.gov or a scientific platform website ask any doctor how you categorize babies being alive
As someone who checks a few "minority" boxes (female, nonwhite, asexual) but is right-leaning, I find this topic fascinating...
You consider yourself a minority because you're a female? Lmfao
@@jakubpuchalski2583 no, I'm saying that's considered an oppressed minority by identitarians.
@@ThinWhiteAxe sure...
Jakub Puchalski She’s not saying she considers herself a minority because she’s a woman, she’s saying identitarian left considers woman as minorities.
@@waynejohnson1786 this. Thank you.
I'm straight and conservative leaning, but i will say its always a pleasure to watch the reactions of gay people /friends who find out I really don't care about their sexual preference. If u believe and personal freedoms and/or the nonaggression principle ( as a lot of people in the US do) it actually fits perfectly into ur ideology. You can still not be comfortable with the overt sexualization, but their is really no reason other than temperament why it doesn't fit.
Sexual PRE F E R E N C E
Nobody prefers a sexuality
Your videos are the best thing on youtube these days. I just wish more people would follow you guys!
Very good! I have envolved on The issue OF gay marriage, etc. I am straight conservative and believe EVERONE'S rights should be respected and government should stay out of peopl's bedrooms!
I am not a conservative, though I approve of this video. It is nice to see two oppositions sitting together and having a mature and even-handed conversation about this topic. I was pleasantly surprised, with regard to the topic, at hand. Keep up the great videos, guys! #gaycentralist
I'm a straight conservative Christian but support gay marriage and have close gay friends and family. I'm more right leaning on manyt issues like gun rights, illegal immigration, abortion, but more moderate to liberal on issues like drug prohibition, same sex marriage, military intervention, and I also support social welfare programs like social security and Medicare. technically an independent but have voted republican the last few election
So youre socially Libertarian, and economically Centrist
@@schellargschichta1638 not anymore lol I’m pretty much a libertarian socialist/ syndicalist at this point.
@@jrbknyc8785 Conservative?
@@schellargschichta1638 I was not anymore though. I am not a capitalist .I no longer have respect for authority or tradition . I am class conscious
@@jrbknyc8785 Rope and Chair then, how can you not care abt Tradition
J.J. thank you for representing my point of view here. It's been very difficult lately to ignore the hate mongering lately, and if I so dare lightly emphasize a polarizing point to my friends and peers, it's misconstrued and I'm reprimanded. It's just nice to know there are more of me. :)
JJ rocks. Thanks to both of you for taking on a topic people stay away from and for giving both view points validity. As a gay conservative I find it is often scarier to "come out" as conservative than it is to come out as gay. And one comment i would like to make is that gay marriage seems to me more like a conservative ideal - getting the government out of our personal lives and allowing people to make the decisions that best suit them. I don't think that conservatism is incompatible with the LGBT community at all. Anyway thanks again guys!
I'm coming from the point of view of a straight american liberal who was always taught that saying that your socially conservative was just a friendly way of saying that you hate LGBT. With the political crisis in the U.S. being at full swing right now I'm being told to listen to other points of views and I think that that's a good idea. I've learned a lot from JJ and it's easy for me to accept his conservative view points because he live outside of the U.S., I know that he doesn't hate LGBT, and he's not blindly following an ideology.
@@lucyspencer8748 plenty of American conservatives aren't LGBT haters either. Good on you for listening to other points of view.
well if you grew up in a situation where you generally tolerate other people's beliefs are freedoms anyway, "socially conservative" to you might just harken back to that (in your point of view) basic decency.
To be fair we do use these general terms to predict, atleast vaguely, how others may think. That being said: all people *are* multifaceted, and jumping to conclusions on one's opinion, particularly with specific issues, isn't always the best idea.
im curious as to his reasoning behind being against weed being legalized - i’m not trying to be like combative, i just haven’t been exposed to that side of the argument in the same way as the pro-legalization perspective
becca moses well he doesn’t even drink coffee
Why would you outlaw alcohol or tobacco? Same things apply to weed.
These two give me hope for the future. I wish all political discussions were like this!
Love the channel and this video! Good for you both on being yourselves and respectful to one another even when you disagree.
A true Conservative should understand that "marriage" is a religious and social institution, not a state institution.
The Gov't should have as close to nothing to do with the free choices of people as possible, in so far as who they choose to "marry" themselves with, and how that marriage is arranged.
Sure, marriage does have many beneficial effects on society in terms of income earned per household, child poverty, drop out rates, crime rates, etc. So, there is some room for the Gov't to offer incentives to people within society to get married rather than stay single or in an unmarried relationship indefinitely. However, that doesn't grant the Gov't the right to control the manner in which that marriage is arranged or who decides to get married to each other.
In other words, a Conservative would rather the (Federal) Gov't stay out of inter-personal relationships altogether, and let society operate on it's own.
I'm a Conservative and I don't want the Gov't telling anyone who they can or cannot get married to.
With all that being said, it is not necessarily a "Right" to get married to anyone you want. It's a "Right" to enter into a legal or social contract with anyone who is of legal age and able to make decisions for themselves. That means it is the job of the Gov't to protect and enforce contracts between individuals, and a marriage between two consenting adults is essentially a social contract. Not necessarily a legally binding contract, but a social contract nonetheless.
When Republicans try to use the Gov't to impose their own social and religious beliefs on the whole of society, they are not acting Conservatively, in terms of Gov't control over life. They are acting "Conservatively" in terms of their own personal religious institution or their own social belief structure. However, that's not true Conservatism in terms of "governance".
I'm the trifecta 1. American, 2. Conservative and 3.Straight. It irks me when people try to put me in a box. Independent politics has killed any sort of helpful conversation. Ill be honest I had the "traditional" opinion on gay rights issues.. until big shock, i met and was exposed to gay people, some of my best friends in fact. and the way I've come to reconcile the two is simple. Conservatives believe in the liberty of the individual. you love who you love and its as simple as that everyone is equal under the law, that is all we can every really hope to be.Interesting conversation guys..
GayGay Mccollough
Lmao
On our first election day together, my boyfriend didn't want me to know he votes Republican. Same about me. We both feared the other would break up because liberal gays are intolerant.
I'm surprised he doesn't support cannabis legalisation.
Now, were you (J.J.) discussing Conservativism from an American perspective or Canadian? Because I was under the impression that Conservative in Canada is quiet different that being American Conservative. For myself...I tend to walk he middle road.
I am a bisexual women, it’s been easy to come out. I am also conservative on a pretty liberal area. People would turn against me if I came out in that regard.
I randomly found this channel
I’m sorry what? Is this a Joke? JJ is NOT gay! He literally has/had a girlfriend! Check out his videos from before this time period
J.J: Uses socialist and leftist as an insult
Also J.J: You aren't allowed to use republican as an insult
Love the content, I hope y’all do a deep dive into politics in the gay community. I know that it’s not really your style but I could t think of a better pair
I'm neither for or against gay marriage being legal, because marriage is a spiritual union, and shouldn't be under government control. There shouldn't be laws surrounding it.
The US has a reactionary/conservative (far-right) party (Republicans) and a conservative/liberal (center-right) party (Democrats). As a result, the US tends to settle on center-right policies, which I find appalling. I'd like to see us have a progressive party (center-left) and a conservative party (center-right) so that compromise is centrist policies: that is those that combine gov't and market policies to find the best solutions, and apply logic to society.
I happen to be highly socially libertarian and center-left economically, which in the context of the US makes me without a party, though the closest are the Green Party and the progressive wing of the Democratic Party (as a result I am a Bernie Sanders supporter who would vote for Jill Stein if Hillary wins the nomination). [If you weren't aware, Hillary is economically centrist at best and conservative at worst, while being much too socially authoritarian for me. Bernie's (somewhat) center-left economically and socially somewhat closer to me.]
Being a conservative in Canada must be quite different from what we call conservative (reactionary) in the US today. We have the radical elements in the GOP ready to ban abortion and gay marriage, rip apart market based healthcare reform, drastically slash taxes for the wealthiest people in the country, and so much more. I would hope that and expect JJ is actually conservative and not reactionary.
Billie Potts the republicans aren’t far right and the democrats aren’t center right. That’s an appalling way to see the parties. They aren’t even reactionaries.
The Servius Democrats are center left/center, republicans are more center right to right wing.
Wow, fascinating topic. Great work you too. JJ, a "gay conservative" does seem like an oxymoronic term. My question is, and I'm sorry if this shows my ignorance, I am American after all, I know the stigma associated between one calling one's self a Republican/conservative and Democrat/liberal here in the states, but do they have the same meaning in Canada? Especially with the rise of the whole neocon movement, has the meaning of Canadian Republican (is that a thing?) vs American Republican diverged into different meanings? Adam, the US is in such ridiculous turmoil for more reason than those two blanket ideal/terms, you are correct, however, it does have a lot to do with it. I'm waiting for the bible belt to secede and become Jesusland while the rest of us can become the United States of Canada. Hawaii can come too.
+Matteo Smith Basically the way it works in Canada is that our version of the Republican Party is simply called "The Conservative Party" and our version of the Democratic Party is simply called the "The Liberal Party." This can sometimes get confusing, so you sometimes hear Canadians talk about "small-c conservative" or "small-l liberals" to refer to people who have liberal/conservative BELIEFS as as distinct from people who support/are part of the formal political parties.
There will obviously be some differences, but for all intents and purposes Canadians and Americans mean the same thing when they talk about conservatives and liberals. Being a conservative (and especially a Conservative) in Canada carries with it all the same negative stereotypes as being a conservative or a Republican in America, particularly in the gay community.
+J.J. McCullough You are adorable and I love your views. You challenge me and my thinking and that says a whole lot. Adam, I love that you and J.J. Can find common ground in something more than just being gay and that is awesome and gives me hope. I enjoy this series and its something I look for every single week.
+Bryce Lee Wynn Aw thanks so much Bryce. You're our biggest fan!!
To be honest I am a Christian who if I was old enough would have voted against gay marriage, but I was never actively trying to hurt or insult anyone. There was that weird day in middle school where I decided to be super hot so I could turn and save everyone. But I was really weird, and a bit narcissistic.
What I'm trying to say is, I think it shows a lot of character when you disagree with someone and can still go about your day.
Im a straight conservative, but i reject social conservatism completely... im pro choice, vegan, atheist, pro lbgt marriage, pro death with dignity, pro drug legalisation. Im a hardliner on immigration, very strict and fiscally conservative. I agree that social conservatism pisses me off more than anyone... but after Orlando... who were the guys who stepped up? Conservatives...
when the right evolves on gay marriage, i think there will be a lot of conversions. I think the term 'rational conservative' should be the new label
mattyey you’re not very conservative
@@theservius2913 If he believes in cutting back social programs like school funding, lowering taxes for rich people so that they'll spend that money on jobs instead of just using it to increase automation, and stock buybacks and believe in loosening restrictions on the way corporations treat their workers, they're conservative.
4 4 hmm doesn’t seem conservative are actual conservative at all. There are many reasons why conservative economic principles don’t seem good
@@theservius2913 Sometimes things are as they appear.
Huh never knew JJ is gay until I looked up 'JJ McCullough politics'
Though you don’t seem very much like a Republican or what we typically see of conservatives here. You are what I would call a reasonable conservative. I identify as a different brand of conservatism, mainly American Constitutional Conservatism. It is very much more liberal than many conservatives in the US, but our founding principles were very liberal. We just have been taking our sweet ol’ time in putting them into practice. There are conservative interpretations of the Constitution in terms of economics, but many of them would have to concede a number of points to the liberals in terms of prohibitions of personal liberties. Many conservatives would prefer to ban things that seem scary like Marijuana, but Liberals would argue for personal freedom, plus we starve cartels of funding in Mexico and South America. I do support some common sense gun legislation, but I also firmly believe in gun rights ownership which is actually a lefty position. As the more left wing a position is the more it believes a particular thing should be accessible to the public and decentralized. Gun ownership rights, left wing. Gun ban for civilians- right wing. Why cause right wing is complete consolidation of power and rigid hierarchies while left-wing is equal and decentralized. If we had really left wing justices on the supreme court they would actually interpret the 2nd amendment as socialism. The right to bear arms would mean upon request the government is required to give you a firearm.
damn the weed legalization comment by JJ hurt me deeply :(
Being a big liberal believer (though not very left wing American bc I think they are kinda corrupt) I support JJ for being a Gay Conservative which isn't very common
How do you know it isnt very common? There are many gay conservatives, the thing is they just hide their political beliefs.
It's crazy now to be a conservative in highschool. Especially if you live in a university town.
I am personally I am economically centrist and pretty Liberal (not woke though, mainly what people deem 'classical liberal').
I am fairly politically open, but as for party's as we know them....the tories over here have NEVER been my thing and most US republicans policy's seem abit...polarising for me
holy shit j.j. said he distrusts the government then said he wants marijuana to be illegal 😭😭
lmao same, i like JJ but that was rough
Yeah that was a stupid moment for sure lol
Tbh i hope one day topics like gender identity and orientation won't be a political issue .
The people who believe that the government should play a very limited role don't know a lot about history or public policy.
Please keep making these videos again
I live in Ontario, and the vast majority of people I know are socially liberal but fiscally conservative. They mostly vote liberal, not because they want to see outrageous spending and deficits but because they know that society is progressive and not stagnant. I could go on but I'll stop for now lol.
Libertarianism is good. Live and let live.
President Obama was against gay marriage until 2012. Although the political spectrum has evolved and platforms have changed, President Abraham Lincoln who emancipated the slaves was a Republican. President Grant and the Congress that banned slavery and gave citizenship to African-Americans were Republican, and even the Civil Rights Act of 1964 would not have passed without significant Republican support because the Democrats at the time were divided on the issue. Yes, people will say that the party platforms have changed but although the Republicans came to power in the 1860s as huge supporters of tariffs, and although since at least the 1920s they have moved to the reverse of that with free-trade, President Donald Trump took the Party back to endorsing tariffs for a hot minute, so things can go back and forth. I also think that the fact that the Democratic Party can go from being the most pro-racism and pro-segregation party to the party most identified with civil rights activism within only a matter of decades, shows that these things can change dramatically in a relatively short time because of how fast new generations come along and challenge the old. The core economic values of the Democratic Party today are essentially the same as those of President Franklin D. Roosevelt in the 1930s though modern Democrats would say his policies were racially insensitive and indeed many of his allies and supporters were staunch white supremacists. So, J.J. can clearly agree with the core economic and philosophical principles of the Conservative Party while having a different opinion from its most recent Prime Minister on this or that issue, especially since J.J. is relatively young compared to most Conservative politicians it isn't that surprising that he would be to the Left of them on certain social issues. We should also remember that the Canadian Conservative Party is different from the U.S. Republican Party and in my opinion especially in recent years Canadian Conservatives as a whole seem more likely to elect leaders that Americans might call socially liberal and fiscally conservative, somewhat similar to some of the popular Republican Governors and U.S. Senators of New England in the Northeast United States.
I weirdly remember something like this on The Daily podcast...... but I have absolutely no idea why lol.
Americans watching this is hilarious you do know that US Conservatives ≠ Canadian conservatives.
Canadian Conservative is much more like US democrats
Liberal Canadians is similar to US liberals
New Democratic Party is unlike any other party, but its more aligned with democratic socialism
This is more aligned on social issues but not economic issues but you get the gist.
In India, the right wing BJP gave more rights to lbgt community
J.J.'s a smart man
Bob The Pumpkin . Yes ,he is very' smart and quite convincing to the standard people ! But he is bias, ethnocentrist ,arrogant, self-centered and monocultural etc . So wrong ( a lot of mistakes) and misleading in his vlogs !
And gay
JJ is a genius
WHY DID I JUST DISCOVER THIS ELECTION THEY SHOULD BRING IT BAAAACO
Could it be that he's a Libertarian?
What is a Canadian Republican?
More center then us id say where Bloomberg or butting or some other liberal that was to conservative to win .
Interesting how the "artsy" guy is the conservative, shows that he thinks more for himself.
Bonus fact for JJ, the leader of the Danish conservative party is gay 🤘🏻
I need to know more about the bottom of jjs outfit here.
I feel sorry for Canada.....This guy makes Canada a joke. How can you be gay and be conservative? Only thing I want is him to stop discussing US politics. I cringe every time.
I think JJ sounds more like a Centrist Democrat.
My New Favorite Person …J.J.😯❤️
He has a RUclips channel its called "J. J McCullough"
The only conservative policy I disagree with is the environment. The American Republican party is the only party in the world that discredits climate change and that's fucked up.
Amazing! ❤
Didn’t Tommy Douglas call homosexuality a disorder?
Considering the interim CPC leader supports gay marriage, it might be easier to be a conservative here. Now, that might change if Kenney gets the job. In America, the GOP wants to overturn gay marriage and discriminate against transgender people.
+Jeremy Kershaw Some elements of the GOP don't care about the issue. Kasich in the debates said the courts have ruled and its time to move on.
+Jon Rosen Are you being sarcastic or just dumb?
***** No you are not being honest at all. I said that "some" elements in the GOP want to move on. We can quibble about how large a section of the party that is and I wouldn't disagree if you said it is small(or even very small) but to pretend that utterly no one in the GOP doesn't want to go and refight the issue is patently dishonest.
Lol luv the socks jj:)
JJ is BRILLIANT.... Adam should listen more and Babble less.
I'm a lesbian conservative but I don't really agree with either party for gay marriage. I think it should be left up to the states. The feds should not have gotten involved at all. But, the liberals already won in 2015 so there is no reason to state that as being a reason to support the left.
@@johnperic6860 There you go! I would be very happy with your scenario. If one church won't wed you, just go to another that will! Although, I do believe court marriages should still be considered legitimate marriage. I understand that some people don't want a religious marriage gay or straight. Therefore, I think court marriages ought to be up to the state gov. not the federal gov.. (Assuming we're discussing American politics & not Canadian politics of course)
JJ distrusts the gov. But says he doesn't support weed legalization? Lmaooo
He is just like Candice Owens. They are the conservatives that are trying to be seen.
i don't think so
The beginning of our flag boi JJ
Is jj Gay? Didn't know that, great guy!
Wait, JJ is gay? I would never have guessed lol!!
Because J.J. doesn’t flaunt it!
i am not gay, and i have liberal political views
😳😲😲😲 2:25 idk how it works in Canada, but that is the most ignorant thing I have heard from JJ, understanding the political system in the U.S. and its history and making that statement is just pure ignorance on so many levels.
So who bottomed and topped afterwards
JJ bottomed
@@Deceasegrips correct
Gay conservatives are just better at everything. We are more attractive, have more money better style. We’re just better
J.J is gay?? I did not know. Interesting.
Yee watch his old videos
Good job McCullough
Is JJ McCullough gay or lgbt+?
Yes, that's the point of this show.
Wait jj is gay?
Am I the only one in shock that this dude was gay?
It's called gay by gay??????
@@allis_babey Duh. I just didn't expect him to be.
Ahhhhhh, ok :)
jj's a gay you say?