Watching videos like this really makes me want to get my degree in Automotive Tech. I've had people tell me that mechanics hate their jobs, but guys like Cody, the ones who know their shit, really seem like they enjoy what they do. Edit: Cody has the most calming voice. I don't know why, but listening to him explain things is really relaxing.
Thanks for uploading this rebuild. I think you made a good choice choosing cody! I am a shop owner and it's it's so great to see Cody doing things this way! It means everything to have a real technician that takes the time and care to do things properly and it's great to see him actually taking the time to go over and explain things to you properly and respectfully and being very honest. This is extremely rare now days because everyone is more worried about the all mighty dollar and don't take pride in what their work. I liked seeing him use all the shop rags along the way because it is important. He's definitely right about it taking way longer to correctly clean and prep the engine than it does to take out and put back. Thank you Cody!
@@knurri some people are just getting by in this world dude lol, whoever owns a computer which is basically everyone in the world and doesnt have ad block for their browser is an asbolute moron.
blew my engine and building it myself in my garage and when i say that this is the best teardown video I've seen so far I'm talking after 10-12 hours on google best video
I got 150,000 on my 2012 sti. I've only had a solenoid fail, but I've kept it stock. When I do chase power, its going to be an IAG closed deck longblock I'll throw in
07 sti is a good choice, find one that isnt married to a cobb and if its modified, make sure the guy has receipts of all the stuff done. 2.5 liters are alright, the 2.0 are more reliable and able to hold more power. To prevent ringland, rod knock, just keep up with oil and stay on top of it, also dont WOT your engine
Another piece of advice, don’t advance timing on UEL’s. You’ll lean out cylinders 2 and 4 and blow up faster then you can blink. Killer B EL’s, air/oil separator, aftermarket oil cooler, and s quality protune. Can make max gains on stock turbo without blowing it up that way
Bugeye Bryan WOT is fine, just dont over load the car, as in high gear, low rpm wot. This can all be avoided. First things first for any EJ is getting proper maintenance and on time, secondly, get an AOS. No knock means no issues.
You got lucky on the can gear bolts, first time I pulled an ej they took like 2 hours and the last one was stripped to shit and had to weld on a nut to the bolt to get it out lol
on the jdm ej20's the cam's have a hex so you can put an adjustable on with a breaker bar. Unfortunately these ej25's suck balls getting the gear bolts off and that special tool barely works if its set in
Zach Knee it was tuned for it but there was a cap that I removed when I rotated the EWG 180 degrees so it gave a full 24 psi to the block during a datalog and that was it. Lots of blocks can hold it at least once or twice but mine didn’t so now I have an IAG block and it held the 24 no problem.
As a former Honda tech myself, fuuuuck this Subaru motor removal and rebuilt shit. So much shit to take off..now im definitely conscience about my FA20 wrx failing then ever now. Kudos for this video, very detailed. That dude doing the removal knows his shit👍.
Bro I think its the coolest thing ever that you made this video I jist love it and I just love your videos. Your so lucky to be able to.do wjat you do by making and editing your videos and the people ypu meet to do the things you get.to do. I just recently bought a 2019 subi sti amd I'm slowly building it amd want to do so much to it. Thank you for making ND sharing this video💯❤❤❤❤❤
@@warock567 it's an OTS (off the shelf) tune. Meaning it's made to fit all WRXs. While this is good for usability and availability while people get their new Accessports, the tune is not designed for your engines specific variables. Every engine runs different, especially after modifying. Which is why it's an important to get a protune or a Map tuned specifically for your engine.
Advancing timing with UEL’s is dumb on a stock engine anyway, banks with the long runners are prone to detonation stock let alone tuned where they run on the leaner side... EL’s and a quality protune is what you need to not blow up
@@warock567 there fucking shit, its called an actual dyno tune with a pro tuner if you can afford the car and parts afford a good tune from someone and maybe your car wont blow up.
Would you do flex fuel. I hear it’s better and reduces heat in the chamber. But is there anything really that will eliminate Ringland failure and catastrophic failures completely with current power plant
You can get bulletproof piston and rods for $900 for an STI. However, labor to install properly is usually almost $4k. Even main bearings are only $60. Labor is the killer....
So I must ask, should you rebuild or replace the engine in any wrx or sti? And should you rebore the short block? If the short block is rebored, should it run higher than stock power, at stock power or detune it to run well under stock power?
Great video as always! Did you have list all the parts you had to buy? I noted some of the replacement parts that were mentioned but would like to see the overall list. I'm sure it would be helpful for everyone. Thanks!
Funny how he made a video to prevent from this happening and it still happens to his subie 😭 lol this is what makes not get one why you gotta be a ticking time bomb :(
I mean he drove it hard without a tune, then gets an OTS Cobb tune, and beats up on it in a hot Arizona weather. Smh. I have my 2017 STi, 34,500 miles. Replaced my clutch, (many clutch dumps and slamming, no surprise there). No engine failure. So, no OTS tunes! Custom tune and let it warm up before beating on it and cool down before you turn it off.
@@nwbklr dude there are early symptoms. It won't just "pop" randomly with a broken ringland (you can still drive it with a cracked ringland depending on severity) unless you throw a rod.
It’s pretty simple, don’t advance timing with UEL’s, you’ll lean out on cylinders 2/4 with the long runners and pop a piston faster then you can blink. Switch to Killer B EL’s, enjoy the power gains and faster spool, and worry less about blowing it up. UEL’s are the dumbest design, Subaru did a big F there. JDM ej207 has it right with the ej207, twin scroll, EL’s, forged, 8000 rpm stock....
I just bought an STI with about 60,000 miles on it and this video has me terrified know that yours broke with only 70,000. I've always dreamed of having an sti but after this I'll probably never buy another subaru again.
I have 150,000 on mine. I take good care of my car, oil changes every 6k, and I don't launch my car from a dig ever, and I check oil level every fill-up. Looking at that clutch and flywheel, he definitely dove his car HARD. If you want to abuse a STI, you have to build the engine
Always was. No catch can or AOS or equal length header or even a magical protune is gonna save ONE of these motors. You’re either lucky or unlucky with an EJ. And not to rag on your boy here but the pistons did not fail because they are cast. They’re just plain poorly designed pistons. Yes they are cast but that doesn’t make them inherently susceptible to breaking. For reference, the Evo also uses cast pistons. And we all know what they can handle...GOBS of power without upgrading.
ELH will help quite a bit, they pop pistons when someone advances timing with UEL’s and cylinders 2 and 4 get really hot cause the long runners, it leans out and detonates...
@@nwbklr Am i correct in thinking this failure is due to increased temperatures making the piston ring pinch against the sidewall and blowing the ringland out or is this some weird subaru piston stuff going on?
this is FASCINATING...... how tf do people learn so much about cars? He just tosses 1 million nuts and bolts into the same box lol 34:30 idk why but that made me laugh so hard lmao
Honestly I felt like He wasn’t ProTuned he was Cobb Tuned and second He rips his car non stop through snow ice etc. And another reason is He probably had it on sports sharp everytime he drives so hes full boosting 24/7 ej motors are reliable. You just gotta baby it. Check Oil Check Coolant Dont rip it everyday and that’s pretty much It also If you know you’re gonna add parts buy safety parts first like a AOS Oil Cooler and the New Get a Dom tune.
My splash pan hasn’t caught fire yet with my Killer B ELH 😂. I doubt this would happen because it’s been like this for 15k. Watch car lights on fire today lol.
the old guy upgraded cause the 2019-2021 sti has the type ra block witch is little stronger this is why u dont hear of many stis from those years having probloms
So I've followed about 4 different guides and have a 2015 sti that I cannot get the engine out of. Even this video misses removing clutch fork pin and briefly hits at the turbo flange but I can't think of anything stopping my engine from coming off the transmission but if anyone has any info let me know on what I could be missing
Bugeye Bryan STIs are kinda one big crap shoot. Most of them last at least 100k when modded properly. This kid is kinda a dummy with no supporting mods like air oil separator, larger intercooler, and don’t think it’s protuned. The not protuned part I could be wrong. I’m glad I bought mine but it is one big money pit. God forbid if the motor does blow there goes 10k out of my pocket. If I was to do it all over again I would buy a Audi RS3 and leave it stock. IG @subidoosti
@@Dave-so7sf You're right he doesnt have supporting mods, I found a 2015 sti with a cobb, the cobb kinda pushed me away from the car cuz of how they're known for blowing engines if not done properly
Thanks Cameron for the video super informative I really appreciate it . I still have a 17 STI with full bolt ons with E85 at 340 whp 400ft pounds of torque with 24k on the dash and I’ve already been setting my mind and my bank on a built motor. When you car took a dump I seriously wanted to know what the heck happened lol I’ve been waiting for this video . Just curious during the video you said” I was driving from Yuma and I filled up and got to my parents and filled up again and it was low “ were you talking about gas ? What other symptoms were you seeing when you knew it was done . Thanks in advance.
Run as much ethanol as you can, invest into a killer b elh, AOS as always, larger intercooler, good protune, and cross your fingers. You “should” be fine for 100k. My tuner says ringland failure is most of the time caused by the tune. IG @subidoosti
Steven Roseren 340 whp on e85? 2015+ fa20dit WRX’s at my local tuner shop (VEMS) are making 350 whp and just under 400 wtq on 93 octane with full bolt ons...
Driveitsideways 1 : its much easier to make power and cheaper on the the FA20 motors the make more hp that’s been established along time ago now torque that’s a bit different because of the clutch and 6 speed the FA 20 wrx have it can’t hold that much torque stock . STI transmission can hold 800 hp without braking a sweat. I’m just pointing up my numbers I know the difference between the EJ platforms and the FA platforms I’ve had both . the thing about the FA it isn’t capable of running full E85 I know soon it will be but for right now it can’t.
Subidoo STI my next thing is ELH headers lol the killer bee are expensive I might just go with the tomie ones and I’m waiting on a ETS TMIC as of right now lol . ever since I did flex fuel I haven’t even used regular gas lol just E85 straight. Lol
Vi Tempz iV lol all us EJ owners want to be prepared for the worst. Probably going to be into this for 10k by the time the motor goes back in. I’ve got quotes before on a IAG short block assembly installed.
Joshua Hellis this comment needs to be pinned! Advancing timing on UEL’s is bad on cast pistons.... should just switch to Killer B EL’s, enjoy the spool and power gains, and not have to worry about blowing up....
Driveitsideways 1 yeah I have Perrin elh that I bought used but I also have a built motor and I still don’t want to have uelh for autocross and track days let alone this heat in az
Joshua Hellis cylinders 2 and 4 thank you lol, those long runners on those cylinders on a hot day means lots of premature wear. EL’s sound like a actual rally x car too lol. I don’t own Subaru’s anymore (Speed6, it’s a semi adult car 😜) but I burned my ringlands out on my old ej255 swapped gf8
Joshua Hellis I’ve always had Japanese or German cars. All my friends have GTI’s, one just sold his GTI and picked up a 2017 Audi S3. Currently sits at stage 2 with a upgraded intercooler. That car is nutty quick, over 400 hp/tq...
Ran across this info after watching the video... Got me curious as if this issue applies to the new 2.4L turbo engine in the 2020 Outback and Ascent. www.comeanddriveit.com/engine/subaru-ringland-failure
Weak piston combined with UEL’s and advancing timing with some tuning, means pistons pop... quality set of EL’s (Killer B’s, worth every penny in the gains you get and they last forever) with a twin scroll turbo setup, easy 500-600 whp on a built engine, coupled with fairly quick spool time and transient response, and the torque shove you get with EL’s...... that’s the primo build for the $ you’ll spend
Do they have a sign in the shop that posts labor rates? For example $100 per hour, $200 per hour if you want to watch and ask questions. Kinda like this>> bustedknucklegarage.com/images/products/215.jpg
You know watching this every time where you say "why did Subaru do this" the answer is to save money :( Sad but the truth. Cast pistons (saved money), bad screws in a weird spot (save money). Funny how companies spend 100 of millions and then make a decision to save a million that screws over every customer :/
It’s so nice and chill to see someone wrenching away and enjoying it these days. Mad respect for his talent, patience and Respect for cars.
S62-ej257 exactly what I was thinking ! Respect to him ! Such an informative dude
Watching videos like this really makes me want to get my degree in Automotive Tech. I've had people tell me that mechanics hate their jobs, but guys like Cody, the ones who know their shit, really seem like they enjoy what they do.
Edit: Cody has the most calming voice. I don't know why, but listening to him explain things is really relaxing.
Thanks for uploading this rebuild. I think you made a good choice choosing cody! I am a shop owner and it's it's so great to see Cody doing things this way! It means everything to have a real technician that takes the time and care to do things properly and it's great to see him actually taking the time to go over and explain things to you properly and respectfully and being very honest. This is extremely rare now days because everyone is more worried about the all mighty dollar and don't take pride in what their work. I liked seeing him use all the shop rags along the way because it is important. He's definitely right about it taking way longer to correctly clean and prep the engine than it does to take out and put back. Thank you Cody!
this video is pure gold for those who are interested. that guy knows his stuff man. thanks for this!
So many ads
Gotta pay that motor somehow right
Not a single ad for me. But then again... I use Ad-Block Plus.
@@knurri some people are just getting by in this world dude lol, whoever owns a computer which is basically everyone in the world and doesnt have ad block for their browser is an asbolute moron.
bro it is 2020 and you still do not have ad block lmfao? Even google makes an ad blocker. Just google and install it lol. Welcome to the future....
No ads for me but it’s because of RUclips premium 👌🏽
Not a single one here :)
Dude thank you so much for this. So awesome learning from a Jedi master. The dude obviously knows his shit. Good luck with the car!
Go watch Subi Performance, you will learn even more!
blew my engine and building it myself in my garage and when i say that this is the best teardown video I've seen so far I'm talking after 10-12 hours on google best video
Cody is one talented fellow!! Max respect to him
I got 150,000 on my 2012 sti. I've only had a solenoid fail, but I've kept it stock. When I do chase power, its going to be an IAG closed deck longblock I'll throw in
My dream car is an 07 sti, but I keep coming across videos like this and it gives me second thoughts 😂
Check your oil. Do recommended maintenance and this won't happen. Oh and get a proper tune lol.
07 sti is a good choice, find one that isnt married to a cobb and if its modified, make sure the guy has receipts of all the stuff done. 2.5 liters are alright, the 2.0 are more reliable and able to hold more power. To prevent ringland, rod knock, just keep up with oil and stay on top of it, also dont WOT your engine
Another piece of advice, don’t advance timing on UEL’s. You’ll lean out cylinders 2 and 4 and blow up faster then you can blink. Killer B EL’s, air/oil separator, aftermarket oil cooler, and s quality protune. Can make max gains on stock turbo without blowing it up that way
Bugeye Bryan only the 207 is stronger than the 257. I wouldnt bet any other 2.0l block against a 2.5 without being built unless its a 207.
Bugeye Bryan WOT is fine, just dont over load the car, as in high gear, low rpm wot. This can all be avoided. First things first for any EJ is getting proper maintenance and on time, secondly, get an AOS. No knock means no issues.
Cool content. Thanks Cameron. Cody should have his own channel.
I watched the first video he made with the car...and thought yep, a rebuild video will come sometime in the near future...
Yep lmao
why do you say that? what was he doing?
@@Paul101111 if you know anything about how to treat a subaru, go watch the video and you'll answer your own question
No surprise all he did was full send it non stop 😆
@@jaronvenable4241 How should you treat it?
can’t wait to see when she’s back up and running!
just pulled a 2.5 NA apart. Had a Bad Rod Bearing, Cylinders look great and the Honing crosshatch patter is very visible at 190K miles.
You got lucky on the can gear bolts, first time I pulled an ej they took like 2 hours and the last one was stripped to shit and had to weld on a nut to the bolt to get it out lol
on the jdm ej20's the cam's have a hex so you can put an adjustable on with a breaker bar. Unfortunately these ej25's suck balls getting the gear bolts off and that special tool barely works if its set in
Buying a boxer motor always has a heavy risk. But that guy knows his sheit!!
Thank you so much for this video. It's the most chilled and informative one here on YT. 🤘🤘🤘
This guy know the nuts and bolts of the EJ25 motor.
SUPER CLUTCH video!
This dude explained everything if not better than UTI. Don’t waste your money guys.
The all too familiar Subaru Ringland Failure 😔...I can’t wait for the rebuild! 😈😈
you should tag and link the guy whos doing the work on the sti... hes the one im paying attention to
First mod you should do when you buy a Subie is upgrade the pistons
You know its a good shop When “Livin On a Prayer” Comes on 😂🙌🏼🙌🏼
I got ringland a few days ago after i installed my EWG upipe and EL header.
Change tune for it? Sounds like you were running lean or detonating
Zach Knee it was tuned for it but there was a cap that I removed when I rotated the EWG 180 degrees so it gave a full 24 psi to the block during a datalog and that was it. Lots of blocks can hold it at least once or twice but mine didn’t so now I have an IAG block and it held the 24 no problem.
That red fox in the background 😍
As a former Honda tech myself, fuuuuck this Subaru motor removal and rebuilt shit. So much shit to take off..now im definitely conscience about my FA20 wrx failing then ever now. Kudos for this video, very detailed. That dude doing the removal knows his shit👍.
superb... hey just by curiosity.. how much time was that in total, taking out the engine and crack up the engine???
Anything Griots Garage makes seems to be amazing . Hope you sort this out soon .
This video helped solidify my decision to pass on a new 21’ STI 😂
Bro I think its the coolest thing ever that you made this video I jist love it and I just love your videos. Your so lucky to be able to.do wjat you do by making and editing your videos and the people ypu meet to do the things you get.to do. I just recently bought a 2019 subi sti amd I'm slowly building it amd want to do so much to it. Thank you for making ND sharing this video💯❤❤❤❤❤
Awesome Video! Explains so much about Subie motors. Thanks!
How much it was to remove engine?
Awesome video! Very informative 👍
did u put a cob tune on it? lol when will people learn
what wrong with a cob tune ?
@@warock567 it's an OTS (off the shelf) tune. Meaning it's made to fit all WRXs. While this is good for usability and availability while people get their new Accessports, the tune is not designed for your engines specific variables. Every engine runs different, especially after modifying. Which is why it's an important to get a protune or a Map tuned specifically for your engine.
@@Thailerr oh ok thank for explaining it to me
Advancing timing with UEL’s is dumb on a stock engine anyway, banks with the long runners are prone to detonation stock let alone tuned where they run on the leaner side... EL’s and a quality protune is what you need to not blow up
@@warock567 there fucking shit, its called an actual dyno tune with a pro tuner if you can afford the car and parts afford a good tune from someone and maybe your car wont blow up.
You can remove the shaft that holds the fork in place with a bolt from the timing cover
Would you do flex fuel. I hear it’s better and reduces heat in the chamber. But is there anything really that will eliminate Ringland failure and catastrophic failures completely with current power plant
You can get bulletproof piston and rods for $900 for an STI. However, labor to install properly is usually almost $4k. Even main bearings are only $60. Labor is the killer....
stuna101a Labor is $4k where you live? Damn. I built my STI with an IAG shortblock and labor was half that..
@@alexlocke6772 the turn around time is a week though.
Awesome video
Cody kinda sounds like Jesse from fast & furious 😂😂😂
Love your videos bud, keep up the great work!
So I must ask, should you rebuild or replace the engine in any wrx or sti? And should you rebore the short block? If the short block is rebored, should it run higher than stock power, at stock power or detune it to run well under stock power?
What is the bigger oil filter that he is talking about ?
Great video as always! Did you have list all the parts you had to buy? I noted some of the replacement parts that were mentioned but would like to see the overall list. I'm sure it would be helpful for everyone. Thanks!
at 14:33 does the WRX 2015 have the same rod that holds the clutch fork?
Financial. What would the cost of a rebuild like this cost?
It's sad this is what happens to a new STI blows up with just a turbo back, tune and an intake
The cars that have Service mode on the hood or the ones that are known for blowing engines lol
Hahahahahaha
Didn't this company recently tune it?
LOL, my guess is yes. thats how they make good money
Funny how he made a video to prevent from this happening and it still happens to his subie 😭 lol this is what makes not get one why you gotta be a ticking time bomb :(
I mean he drove it hard without a tune, then gets an OTS Cobb tune, and beats up on it in a hot Arizona weather. Smh. I have my 2017 STi, 34,500 miles. Replaced my clutch, (many clutch dumps and slamming, no surprise there). No engine failure. So, no OTS tunes! Custom tune and let it warm up before beating on it and cool down before you turn it off.
Yeah I have a 2016 STI with 33k miles. Stock tune and the motor is healthy as can be it doesnt burn a drop of oil between 3k changes.
Mrlolibre doesn’t mean shit. Could
pop tomorrow and you’d feel dumb af for braggin it’s hasn’t yet. You’re either lucky or you’re not with an ej.
@@nwbklr dude there are early symptoms. It won't just "pop" randomly with a broken ringland (you can still drive it with a cracked ringland depending on severity) unless you throw a rod.
It’s pretty simple, don’t advance timing with UEL’s, you’ll lean out on cylinders 2/4 with the long runners and pop a piston faster then you can blink. Switch to Killer B EL’s, enjoy the power gains and faster spool, and worry less about blowing it up. UEL’s are the dumbest design, Subaru did a big F there. JDM ej207 has it right with the ej207, twin scroll, EL’s, forged, 8000 rpm stock....
I just bought an STI with about 60,000 miles on it and this video has me terrified know that yours broke with only 70,000. I've always dreamed of having an sti but after this I'll probably never buy another subaru again.
I have 150,000 on mine. I take good care of my car, oil changes every 6k, and I don't launch my car from a dig ever, and I check oil level every fill-up. Looking at that clutch and flywheel, he definitely dove his car HARD. If you want to abuse a STI, you have to build the engine
so basically to prevent this is forged pistons n rods?
Correct!
Always was. No catch can or AOS or equal length header or even a magical protune is gonna save ONE of these motors. You’re either lucky or unlucky with an EJ.
And not to rag on your boy here but the pistons did not fail because they are cast. They’re just plain poorly designed pistons. Yes they are cast but that doesn’t make
them inherently susceptible to breaking. For reference, the Evo also uses cast pistons. And we all know what they can handle...GOBS of power without upgrading.
Quality PROFESSIONAL tune. Also, run 🌽, keep your intake temps down, ELH, cyl4 cooling mod by Dom Acia
ELH will help quite a bit, they pop pistons when someone advances timing with UEL’s and cylinders 2 and 4 get really hot cause the long runners, it leans out and detonates...
@@nwbklr Am i correct in thinking this failure is due to increased temperatures making the piston ring pinch against the sidewall and blowing the ringland out or is this some weird subaru piston stuff going on?
this is FASCINATING...... how tf do people learn so much about cars? He just tosses 1 million nuts and bolts into the same box lol
34:30 idk why but that made me laugh so hard lmao
Hello, when replacing the cam gears. Do you slide that guide/pin between the 3 holes in the rear of the cam gear?
Honestly I felt like He wasn’t ProTuned he was Cobb Tuned and second He rips his car non stop through snow ice etc. And another reason is He probably had it on sports sharp everytime he drives so hes full boosting 24/7 ej motors are reliable. You just gotta baby it. Check Oil Check Coolant Dont rip it everyday and that’s pretty much It also If you know you’re gonna add parts buy safety parts first like a AOS Oil Cooler and the New Get a Dom tune.
How did he blew up his engine tho?
My splash pan hasn’t caught fire yet with my Killer B ELH 😂. I doubt this would happen because it’s been like this for 15k. Watch car lights on fire today lol.
Subidoo STI you got Killer B’s, you’ll be alright. Best set of headers on the market hands down
Watching u wash ur car is making me feel self conscious of my car. Now I must go wash my car
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Awesome video man. I'm obsessed with learning about my future cars shit engine lmao.
Bahahahah so relatable
Nice video. Kinda curious how long you own the wrx sti and how come that to happen?
Cheers! From manila
2 years I believe
You should do some more mobbing with the 2 z's. Those vids are fire.
There is a class action law suit against the ringland breakage, I just seen it online.... dunno how old this is
the old guy upgraded cause the 2019-2021 sti has the type ra block witch is little stronger this is why u dont hear of many stis from those years having probloms
So I've followed about 4 different guides and have a 2015 sti that I cannot get the engine out of. Even this video misses removing clutch fork pin and briefly hits at the turbo flange but I can't think of anything stopping my engine from coming off the transmission but if anyone has any info let me know on what I could be missing
How much did this cost?
Sti with cast pistons? I thought they came forged? ej257?
Bugeye Bryan Yes it’s a ej257 and they come cast. Supposedly the 2019 has revised pistons but some say these are still cast too.
@@Dave-so7sf 😕 makes me not want to get one😥
Bugeye Bryan STIs are kinda one big crap shoot. Most of them last at least 100k when modded properly. This kid is kinda a dummy with no supporting mods like air oil separator, larger intercooler, and don’t think it’s protuned. The not protuned part I could be wrong. I’m glad I bought mine but it is one big money pit. God forbid if the motor does blow there goes 10k out of my pocket. If I was to do it all over again I would buy a Audi RS3 and leave it stock. IG @subidoosti
@@Dave-so7sf You're right he doesnt have supporting mods, I found a 2015 sti with a cobb, the cobb kinda pushed me away from the car cuz of how they're known for blowing engines if not done properly
Bugeye Bryan Cobbs fine, as long as it’s used to protune lol
Thanks Cameron for the video super informative I really appreciate it . I still have a 17 STI with full bolt ons with E85 at 340 whp 400ft pounds of torque with 24k on the dash and I’ve already been setting my mind and my bank on a built motor. When you car took a dump I seriously wanted to know what the heck happened lol I’ve been waiting for this video .
Just curious during the video you said” I was driving from Yuma and I filled up and got to my parents and filled up again and it was low “ were you talking about gas ? What other symptoms were you seeing when you knew it was done . Thanks in advance.
Steven Roseren i think is talking about OIL
Run as much ethanol as you can, invest into a killer b elh, AOS as always, larger intercooler, good protune, and cross your fingers. You “should” be fine for 100k. My tuner says ringland failure is most of the time caused by the tune. IG @subidoosti
Steven Roseren 340 whp on e85? 2015+ fa20dit WRX’s at my local tuner shop (VEMS) are making 350 whp and just under 400 wtq on 93 octane with full bolt ons...
Driveitsideways 1 : its much easier to make power and cheaper on the the FA20 motors the make more hp that’s been established along time ago now torque that’s a bit different because of the clutch and 6 speed the FA 20 wrx have it can’t hold that much torque stock . STI transmission can hold 800 hp without braking a sweat. I’m just pointing up my numbers I know the difference between the EJ platforms and the FA platforms I’ve had both . the thing about the FA it isn’t capable of running full E85 I know soon it will be but for right now it can’t.
Subidoo STI my next thing is ELH headers lol the killer bee are expensive I might just go with the tomie ones and I’m waiting on a ETS TMIC as of right now lol . ever since I did flex fuel I haven’t even used regular gas lol just E85 straight. Lol
totally a jedi
buddy should start a youtube page he knows mad shit!
After watching this video I don't think I wanna STI anymore... Ringland on 64 or 6400 miles🤯😳..
Hey bro do you still own the car????
Calls a guy out for taking pics of his VIN, doesnt know what a timing belt is. LMAO
Nice, hope this never happens to me (2019) fingers crossed.
How’s the car
Leave it with factory tune and downshift to 4K RPM or above if you feel like flooring it.... Gotta pay to play.
That’s funny, I live in Yuma and yeah this place is hot as hell
Didn’t he make a video on how to prevent ringland failure?
Please tell me how much$$$ was all this to start saving money 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Learyam to what tell you how much money it is Incase your motor blows ?
Vi Tempz iV lol all us EJ owners want to be prepared for the worst. Probably going to be into this for 10k by the time the motor goes back in. I’ve got quotes before on a IAG short block assembly installed.
@@Dave-so7sf 10k ? U r fucking kidding. Do you get a brand spanking new 0 mile engine w that?
Rebuild of og?
Elh is better for performance and reliability
Joshua Hellis this comment needs to be pinned! Advancing timing on UEL’s is bad on cast pistons.... should just switch to Killer B EL’s, enjoy the spool and power gains, and not have to worry about blowing up....
Driveitsideways 1 yeah I have Perrin elh that I bought used but I also have a built motor and I still don’t want to have uelh for autocross and track days let alone this heat in az
Joshua Hellis cylinders 2 and 4 thank you lol, those long runners on those cylinders on a hot day means lots of premature wear. EL’s sound like a actual rally x car too lol. I don’t own Subaru’s anymore (Speed6, it’s a semi adult car 😜) but I burned my ringlands out on my old ej255 swapped gf8
Driveitsideways 1 yeah I came
From
Muscle cars to jeep to focus st to my subie
Joshua Hellis I’ve always had Japanese or German cars. All my friends have GTI’s, one just sold his GTI and picked up a 2017 Audi S3. Currently sits at stage 2 with a upgraded intercooler. That car is nutty quick, over 400 hp/tq...
This was pure Subaru car porn. Loved it
I wonder how much a job like this Cost.
How much total $$ is an engine rebuild?
depends on whats upgraded
Toss those gaskets!
They're just cast pistons they're not verystrong" so are there affordable* aftermarket fixes
Ran across this info after watching the video...
Got me curious as if this issue applies to the new 2.4L turbo engine in the 2020 Outback and Ascent.
www.comeanddriveit.com/engine/subaru-ringland-failure
If it does then Subaru should be banned from ever making any automobile again.
Weak piston combined with UEL’s and advancing timing with some tuning, means pistons pop... quality set of EL’s (Killer B’s, worth every penny in the gains you get and they last forever) with a twin scroll turbo setup, easy 500-600 whp on a built engine, coupled with fairly quick spool time and transient response, and the torque shove you get with EL’s...... that’s the primo build for the $ you’ll spend
1hour nice
Long the long videos!!!!
Glass engine ej257
mine just broke at 46k...
Never mind I just seen it 2019
content isnt nice but video is good.
I hope my ACT can use 60,000miles lol
Do they have a sign in the shop that posts labor rates? For example $100 per hour, $200 per hour if you want to watch and ask questions. Kinda like this>>
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You know watching this every time where you say "why did Subaru do this" the answer is to save money :( Sad but the truth. Cast pistons (saved money), bad screws in a weird spot (save money). Funny how companies spend 100 of millions and then make a decision to save a million that screws over every customer :/
Cheap ass tune lasted 4 months. Bang
Common issue
Dude please never tie down a car like this again. Super unsafe.
Damn ur car is down for 6 months
more like neonBOOBlight
This is why I don't like that motor
this guy for sure vapes.....
Thanks for posting. Will not go to this fucking shop.👌