Restoring a Victorian Gate Leg Table: Oil-Based vs. Water-Based Stain?

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  • Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
  • Initially, I thought this Victorian drop-leaf table would be a simple repair and refinish. In this video, I delve into the details of choosing between a water-based stain and an oil-based stain for the finishing process. I'll also demonstrate how you can restore this table at home using simple, store-bought tools and equipment.
    Toffee, the Bengal cat, makes her usual valuable interventions!
    In the video, I use Gilboy's wax, and I have a discount code for you if you would like to order a kit from them to do this at home:
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Комментарии • 59

  • @bluedragonfly5
    @bluedragonfly5 2 дня назад

    As a long time Tom Johnson fan, ive just binge watched your videos after discovering them yesterday! I have family antique furniture from 1800s that ive been slowly repairing/ refinishing. I searched for DYI videos a few years ago to help me figure out how to do the work. Your work is inspiring just as Toms has been helpful training. Love that you explain what you do and use!

  • @scmarinemom24
    @scmarinemom24 Месяц назад +1

    That is a gorgeous piece of furniture! Wow!

  • @maryannraley
    @maryannraley Месяц назад +2

    Gorgeous work. My dad was a woodworker and I loved to watch and help him work (his supervisor was our Siamese). We lost him several years ago, and I have missed those times dreadfully. I hope you don't mind that you've become my "surrogate dad." (I don't expect an allowance.)

    • @TheCottackWorkshop
      @TheCottackWorkshop  Месяц назад +2

      Many thanks for watching and commenting. I lost my father last year, he loved watching the Cottack Workshop videos and was always asking when the next one was going to be ready. He wasn't a woodworker, that came from my Grandfather. I still have his tools on the wall behind me, and I spent many happy hours with him in his workshop when I was growing up.

  • @SparrowStockwell
    @SparrowStockwell Месяц назад +1

    That turned out very pretty!

  • @ginalou5774
    @ginalou5774 Месяц назад +1

    That looks so beautiful. Another fabulous job

  • @aarongossage5064
    @aarongossage5064 Месяц назад +3

    Wonderful job giving that table new life.

  • @keithrosenberg5486
    @keithrosenberg5486 Месяц назад +3

    Thank You!

  • @rosannamize6622
    @rosannamize6622 Месяц назад +3

    Beautiful piece! I'm a huge fan and collector of quatersawn oak antiques!

  • @C-AD-l1d
    @C-AD-l1d Месяц назад +4

    Thank you for the video Bruce, beautiful result! Delighted to see the process and the table restored

    • @TheCottackWorkshop
      @TheCottackWorkshop  Месяц назад

      Thank you for watching and commenting - very much appreciated!

    • @TheCottackWorkshop
      @TheCottackWorkshop  Месяц назад

      Ahhh - just realised ...it was YOUR table! Yes it has turned out so very nice!

  • @Quaker521
    @Quaker521 Месяц назад +2

    A wonderful result Bruce. I wonder if I get a brownie point for spotting the 'missed' stained spot (though to be fair from the camera angle it was a little more obvious to us). It was educational to watch the whole process from start to finish so, thank you for the video. I also enjoyed the little 'intermission' with Toffee. As far as I'm concerned, she is always a welcome addition to your videos. Cheers.

    • @TheCottackWorkshop
      @TheCottackWorkshop  Месяц назад +1

      Thank you, as always, for your support and encouragement ...brownie point awarded!

    • @Quaker521
      @Quaker521 Месяц назад

      @@TheCottackWorkshop 😂

  • @CeSSDS216
    @CeSSDS216 Месяц назад +2

    Fantastic! Great job! 💪

  • @claudiap.4272
    @claudiap.4272 Месяц назад +3

    It has been a very interesting video! Great idea to compare the results between two different stains (oil based and water based). It is true that a small sample is not enough to fully appreciate such subtleties, and your two tables allow one to get an idea for similar cases.
    By the way, although I don't always appreciate "breaks" with pets, I must say that your cat is absolutely gorgeous.

    • @TheCottackWorkshop
      @TheCottackWorkshop  Месяц назад +2

      Thank you so much for watching and commenting, and thank you for the comment about Toffee - she has been coming into my workshop since before I started making videos and I had a choice when she first started "interrupting" ...I could stop and pay her some attention, I could shoo her away ...or I could just accept it and bring her into the filming. It doesn't always happen and I don't use treats or other incentives ...if I'm filming and she turns up then it goes where it goes. Interesting many of the best RUclips restores have cats or dogs. I like to say that if you have a Bengal ...then all the best Bengals have a Restorer! Thanks again for watching.

  • @xistacio
    @xistacio Месяц назад +3

    I do love the care you put into these projects/videos.
    At one point you say: "summer is finally here now". What a lovely Tuesday afternoon that was.
    Was this filmed 2 months ago!? :)
    Thank you for taking the time to share it.

    • @TheCottackWorkshop
      @TheCottackWorkshop  Месяц назад +2

      Thanks for watching and commenting. Scottish summer is a fickle concept …anytime between May and September and indeed can be a Tuesday …but when it happens it is glorious. That section was filmed on Wednesday 17th July 😀

  • @C-AD-l1d
    @C-AD-l1d Месяц назад +4

    Thank you for the video Bruce, beautiful result! Delighted to see the process and the table restored 4:21

  • @DougAdams-uo1ee
    @DougAdams-uo1ee 28 дней назад +1

    Since you asked, I prefer the darker one you just finished. Ideally, the maker would have better matching panels to join into a well matched and blended table top. Both are beautiful and really good work!!!!

  • @jannamarie3990
    @jannamarie3990 Месяц назад +2

    Really beautiful ❤ I like the water based one alot better. The other (maybe because of the camera) looks to orange to me. It's still nice, but I prefer the brown more.

    • @TheCottackWorkshop
      @TheCottackWorkshop  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks for watching and commenting! I'm glad you like it 😀

  • @glenhowitt8148
    @glenhowitt8148 Месяц назад +2

    Awesome work mate. I'm sure you used 'what have we learnt' a lot after revision sessions at Uni as well 🤣

  • @suewamsuewam8884
    @suewamsuewam8884 Месяц назад +5

    Drop leaf or gate leg? Besides, lovely job. Thx for sharing.

  • @mercoid
    @mercoid Месяц назад +3

    Outstanding!
    I enjoyed the video.

  • @doczoff5655
    @doczoff5655 Месяц назад +1

    Thank you for making this comparison video, I have a similarly 'previously restored' solid oak quartersawn table so this is a particularly useful video for me. I think I'll go for oil based, though I do have a large test piece of newer oak that I can try it on before committing.
    I'm also not affiliated to Gilboys, but I totally agree with your recommendation... I believe it's the worlds most expensive wax polish (?) and it's worth every penny!!
    That's a lovely table that you've both saved and absolutely transformed, great job!

    • @TheCottackWorkshop
      @TheCottackWorkshop  Месяц назад

      @@doczoff5655 many thanks for watching and commenting - I’m glad you found it useful and good luck with your project!

  • @thetruthno1
    @thetruthno1 Месяц назад +1

    Thanks! I have a nearly identical gate leg table, except the top is mahogany (I suspect the legs are not), and the lathe pattern is slightly different. The top needed stripping and the finish was worn enough that it was just as easy to give it a light sand. I *did not* want to strip the legs, and my neighbor who likes to look over my shoulder and ask questions, seemed slightly judgy when I said I'd refinish the top and "refresh" the legs. Nice to see someone else feels the same way about stripping legs that don't really need it. I should add that my table was made here in the US, it still has the original marks, by the Imperial Furniture Company in Grand Rapids Michigan. There is a website with history of the company and the particular logo dates back to the 1920s-30s. I actually think I won't need to stain the top because of the beautiful mahogany I think will be dark enough. Unfortunately I've had to set it aside for a few months because I had to refinish my mother's dresser for my grandbaby, but hope to get to it soon.

    • @TheCottackWorkshop
      @TheCottackWorkshop  22 дня назад

      Good luck with the project when you get back to it - thanks for sharing

  • @mrstandfast2212
    @mrstandfast2212 Месяц назад +1

    Nice job. Sadly, nobody seems to want these tables any more. I buy them at auction for £10-£20 and break them up for the wood. Wonderful, seasoned and often figured oak for a fraction of the price from a lumber merchant.

    • @TheCottackWorkshop
      @TheCottackWorkshop  Месяц назад

      Sad but very true - that was what was offered to me …free for the wood. Either way as long as something useful comes from it! Thanks for watching and commenting.

  • @carriebtc
    @carriebtc Месяц назад +4

    Beautiful job. The table has definitely acquired a nice extension of life, BUT, could you explain a little about its newly acquired retail value on the UK Antique Market after stripping it of its original finish and refinishing it (if it was)? Here in the US any antique that has been stripped and refinished the value drops more than 90%. Highly valued if left untouched, or mildly cleaned up and waxed (nothing permanent) (That 'crocodile' surface is highly appreciated). Your work is, as always, excellent, but I'm surprised to see that with most antiques repaired in the UK (and other parts of Europe) it is customary to strip and refinish them as part of the repair. I am not trying to belittle your work, it's excellent, I am just trying to understand the differences in criteria between both cultures for professional purposes. I love seeing the process of your skilled work. Good job. Cheers

    • @rosek.584
      @rosek.584 Месяц назад +3

      He stated that it had been previously restored with a glossy finish. So it had already lost any of its "antique" value with the prior restoration. All he did was improve the piece.

    • @TheCottackWorkshop
      @TheCottackWorkshop  Месяц назад +2

      Many thanks for watching and asking. I spend a quite a bit of time with antique dealers but don’t buy or sell myself as I find there is a conflict of interest and also I don’t have the storage space to hold on to pieces for the time needed. They come into the workshop and they go. The value in the UK is location specific. Here in the North of Scotland a table will sell for far less than in say, London for example. The value of that table when I got it was negative - the owner contacted me and asked if I wanted it for free for ‘spare parts’ as they were going to have to pay to have it collected for refuse. With broken legs and damaged top they could not sell it at any price. For similar tables there are prices on Etsy and EBay all over the place but you can pick similar ones up for £50. People just don’t value the heavy Victorian style (hence me having a ‘spare’ one lying around!) I talked at some length about patina in the video before stripping and do believe it had been refinished in the past, as I knew it would raise some eyebrows! Value now? A dealer might buy it for £50 and sell for £150 but might have to wait a year for a sale. For serious collectors there are far better examples available. I hope that answers your question? Thanks for asking!

    • @carriebtc
      @carriebtc Месяц назад +2

      ​@@TheCottackWorkshop Before the collapse of the Antique Market in the early 2010s in the US I used to often go to the UK to buy furniture for resale in my Antique Stores, the prices were a fraction of what they would sell in Manhattan, they were a great bargain and superb quality, but the problem was finding original finishes on their surfaces. The tendency has drastically changed and no one, or very few still have a taste for 'Brown Furniture', those who are still interested only buy 'untouched' pieces, from the US, Continental, or the UK. That's the reality we, antique dealers, have to deal with to cater the appropriate merchandise to be able to continue being in business. As mentioned in my previous comment, I highly appreciate your work, but I'm just trying to understand the differences between our markets. Hopefully one-day future generations will be able to understand and appreciate the enduring beauty of the pejoratively called 'brown furniture'. Cheers

    • @TheCottackWorkshop
      @TheCottackWorkshop  Месяц назад +1

      @@carriebtc Fascinating! I once repaired and restored an Anglo Indian table bought for £100 locally, sold to a dealer for £450 …who then displayed it in their London shop for £1350 …everyone along the chain was happy they had made a markup but it makes answering the question “how much?” Soooooo difficult! I agree with you 100% about appreciating the natural beauty compared with a modern flat pack alternative.

    • @carriebtc
      @carriebtc Месяц назад +2

      ​@@TheCottackWorkshop Unfortunately, today's fashion will be sooner or later tomorrow's trash (literally, you should see the streets of New York at night. Pathetic what people discard as trash). Anglo-Indian furniture (or anything) is so in right now in the US due to the number of techie Indian Migrants working in the very lucrative Tech Business in NY, San Francisco, LA, Seattle, and many other big cities. Their taste is what's driving the market at this point, they'll pay gold for simply anything, who knows what will be in fashion tomorrow? I do appreciate and still collect the so-called 'brown furniture', but just for myself. No longer as 'merchandise' for potential clients. Those are gone. Good luck my friend. Great work of yours. Cheers

  • @inma_m.f.
    @inma_m.f. Месяц назад +3

    ❤❤❤

  • @nicolad8822
    @nicolad8822 Месяц назад +3

    Would this be more 1920s?

    • @TheCottackWorkshop
      @TheCottackWorkshop  Месяц назад

      A quick search has some very unlikely claims for this design from the 1700s, 1800s and yes indeed 1920s. I haven’t researched exhaustively …the flat head screws suggest a later date for sure …you could be right Victorian era ended 1901 so over 120 years ago we are within a decade or so!

    • @TheCottackWorkshop
      @TheCottackWorkshop  Месяц назад

      I’d be very interested if you spotted something that dates it later?

  • @C-AD-l1d
    @C-AD-l1d Месяц назад +4

    Thank you for the video Bruce, beautiful result! Delighted to see the process and the table restored