Had every engine the E series ever had. The “truck 6 “ 300 ci shit all over the 4.6 as did the 351 W (with cross flow injection) and definitely the 460 ci. The 4.6 totally underpowered and got worse mpg than most of the larger engines. 5.4 triton was ok as long as you could keep the spark plugs in the heads !! Same as the V 10. ( just a 5.4 with 2xtra cylinders slapped on ). 4.6 in my explorer and clown car - great. In the e250 sucked
@@StepheMauro-kh1px I hated my 4.6 until my mechanic changed e2 sensors, plugs, coil pack, cleaned mass air flow sensor, and got the computer shifting the trans correctly. I carry heavy loads and no longer get pushed around by SUVs. 2005 200k miles.
My 2008 has 372K runs great. Had transmission rebuilt once. My coworker has a 2004 with 508K and refuses to get a newer one. We both plan on driving them to the ground lol😅❤🎉. E-Series Rocks!
I just picked up 2013 Ford Econoline 350 XLT with 18K miles. There is something about the look of the Econoline attracts me to it more than the Transiit even the Transit got better mileage or room inside. Just update new infotaining and sound system. Next will work on lift :) Great video there Jeremy!
It’s body on frame, usually with V8 motor, and transmissions that cannot be killed, . .. E vans were the most reliable vehicles ever built, they can take so much abuse and still go.
Yes! I think you are the only place where we van enthusiast can learn the optional overland builds available for the newer Transit. Especially, the difference in mpg between stock and lifted larger wheels. Of course it will also depend upon the Transit engine size. Hopefully, you will show the 3.7 because that is the most common. Also, standard vs 4x4. Thanks for the show!
That's what we're about. We're here to inform and entertain. It's awesome to see you watching our content and learning something too. Comparing a Standard vs 4x4 could make for a great future video! We'll keep that idea on deck!
I bought a Ford 2021 E350 cutaway van with a 14'5 box and a 7.3 gas motor. I took it to 5star tuning and had them tune it to above the F350 tune. The box has a 84" interior height and 79" interior width. I have converted it into an RV. I bought it to tow a modified Jeep around the USA, Canada and Mexico on a trailer. With the tune on the 7.3 I am getting 12.8 mpg. The tow rating is 12,000 lbs with a 4.56 gears and the 6 speed auto.
I have been thinking about doing this. Did you buy the new cab from Ford and then shopped for a box? Or did you buy yours complete from Uhaul or something?
@cvcoco I bought a new one and special ordered it. It's a FedEx spec cutaway van. I'm tall so I ordered it with a 84" interior height and a 79" interior width. I wish I had of gone with the E450.
I am a huge fan of the old school Econoline. Timeless workhorse. But I recently drove a Transit cargo van a few hundred miles and I was blown away. The steering and handling was shockingly agile. So I guess I just love Ford vans lol.
@@WeldtecDesigns it does burn oil as 13+ years has a tendency to make the oil seals not quite a perfect tight. I never stomp on the gas and rarely go above 70 mph
Paramedics frequently work part time jobs. Mine was for a company that only picked up patients at all those free-standing ER's that popped up everywhere. Good business model for an ambulance service, very profitable. We got the first Transits that were made into ambulances. I had just retired from a municipal EMS that used F-F450's with HUGE boxes mounted on them, an Iowa class battlewagon. So I went from having all the room in the world with all the storage space for all the cool paramedic toys in the universe to a narrow shoebox. Its ok for non-emergency local transports (the bulk of the business in the freestanding ER to hospital niche) . It was uncomfortable on longer trips. They had frequent electrical and cooling system problems. The Ram Pro Master ambulance conversions have made big inroads into the market. They have a lower load height for one. I started EMS in the 80's for a private company that used E-350's with a high fiberglass top attached. They were rugged, strong, fast and maneuverable. Not many of those are being made now. (Because the Transits and Pro Master have higher roof options from the factory) Most E350 chassis ambulances are just the van cab and a box mounted on the frame. We swapped from gas to diesel in the early 90's. More torque, held up better. There's a move back to gas going on. Diesel is much more expensive now.
Both have their place, but for me the versatility of the econoline far outshines the transit. Mine is a Quigley 4x4 with the 7.3 Diesel. The transit just won’t do what I need. It’s a nice, light duty, comfortable vehicle.
i owned 7 Ford econolines...75 to 95....from 351 , 300 six....302.....in 2015 i bought a new T 250 mid roof 3.7 non turbo......the Transit has given more problems...that all 7 Econolines...while i like the heights...lengths and handling of Transit....but cant keep brakes on it...28,000 miles.never pulls a trailer even though it got trailer towing package....under gross vehicle weight...they didnt update brakes pads look like car typle...,,now is a good time to mention you have to pull rear axles out to replace rear rotors and brakes...costly......hard to work on ...try changing automatic transmission fluid in one..as far as engines...when empty the 3.7 is a little better on gas...but when loaded no better than 351 v8...i wish Ford had kept chasis and engines of the Econolines...and make mid and hi roof editions of it....also just read on all these sites how bad direct injection clogging intake valves...and cam phasers...and chainging are ware out on these new engines...something never had to worry about with Econolines..
I have several E150's. If I don't get atleast 600,000 miles out of the original 4.6 engine and transmission, I'm disappointed.I know the local Ford dealer service manager and he told me that the Transits just don't last like the E series did. He said if they 250,000 miles out of a transit they think they've done something.
Worth mentioning....the COMMONALITY of the E-Series makes it a homerun for traveling...they are EVERYWHERE! Tons of mechanics ALL over know how to work on them and there are parts in EVERY auto parts store coast to coast. As I say "they're as common as pond water"
Inquired about getting some stuff for my Dodge Ram 1500 Van but was told that they don’t have nothing for my Van, very surprised and disappointed cause I presumed they were top notch as custom fabricators and honestly feel that they’re missing a great opportunity for all of us Dodge Van owners that would’ve done business with them 💯% 👍👍☮️
I have a 2007 E350 with the 5.4 and yes sucks a lot of gas but I love it so far is been a super good van, I tow with it few times a small toy hauler and even that is loaded with tools for my business over 2500lbs it pulled nicely, I put a awning on it to use when camping etc and if you see this van in the cargo area I will say is the only van like that because I set it neat and everything is Milwaukee packout drawers etc ,I can called my Milwaukee van! That's how nice is set up, I can't go wrong with what I have now, very happy with it!, purchase this van under 93000 miles and just remove the thermostat a week ago and loving it! ,didn't have any issues yet and it's about 110000 miles with still factory parts, only belt and thermostat so far.
My 350 extended is a beast! Last night I parked next to a giant transit and was shocked! It was longer and taller? But only had a 6 cyl. Towing anybody?
They're both pretty good, i drove a 2006 Econoline at work and its a solid vehicle, my dad has a 2015 transit it drives very nice and has been pretty reliable, besides some fuel pump gremlins because it's a first year Transit.
Good stuff. I just got a Ford Transit 350 EXT High Roof. I tows less and has less get up and go thanow my El350 with a V8 but I am 6'4 so standing up in the back was more importan than towing. As a side note: It's a city van not a back road, driving over curbs and stuff van
The E-Series is perfect for me. I currently own two. 1998 E-Super Duty (early name for the E450) with the 6.8L V10 2000 E150 with the little 4.2L V6 The only thing I dislike on my E450 is the lack of a parking brake for the Dana-80. The driveline brake doesn't work all that great. I'll never own a Transit. The drivers door is the main reason why I won't give it a chance. I want a full window opening like the E-Series or at least a large window opening and a functional vent window like all the 3rd gen Econoline vans I've owned.
@@angsta22 The 3rd gen had the functional vent windows. The 4th gen doesn't have the vent windows but has a full window opening. The Transit has a tall narrow window opening and a fixed glass for the forward quarter glass. And the bottom slopes down toward the front. Driven several Transit vans and want to like them, but I just don't.
Great Video! Thanks. As a man who is about to embark on retirement and van life I'm very happy to be able to get the high roof extended transit, I mean it's the perfect vehicle for RV conversion. However we all know that there is no comparison between the econoline and transit but hanks for trying. Simply put the transit is poossy unibrow euro eco trash. Econoline is strong beefy American goodness!
You’re funny! My Transit has the 3.5 engine. I put all terrain tires on it. It also has the trailer tow package. I outfitted it for camping. A couple of years ago I camped in the Arizona desert. It did fine.
Ford made a HUGE mistake when they stopped making the Econoline, My 1997 has 52,000 and is still brand new. The transit is a NO BUY for me. Thx for sharing
Please am in Ghana 🇬🇭 we use ford e series much i love ford so much because of its safety ford has be in its safety for over 48 years no car manufacture company can compete you the ford company still strong
Ha! Smiles per gallon! You got me right there. Have owned three Econolines. Still have my 2002. Coming up on 300,000 Smiles. Love it's Triton 5.4 Converted two other extended to campers. Now im looking for a fourth to convert and I'll want you to put a 5" lift kit on it. Great Ford product.
97' 7.3PSD Econoline 350 vs 21' 3.5EB Transit MR, transit tows way better hands down. More usable power, never look at the gauges, stability for trailer and crosswind. My 97 had a tuner and a built trans, and this transit still walks it everywhere.
I have a 95 E350 club wagon XL with the 4.9 300 I6, its a good van with a 10,000lb tow rate but honestly it won't pull out of its own way. And im getting between 8.8-9.5 mpg
You never mentioned the 5.8 351 Windsor or Cleveland motor in this video. I got a 1996 e350 super duty extended 15 passenger with a 351 Cleveland I believe .I really like it
Hey my 3.7 may only have 275 hp, but she has 310k on the clock and I have towed so many vehicles on my car hauler.. broken 😂 towed a 6.0 E series to my friends house
I own a 2013 E150 XLT Premuim van. It has every option available from the factory in 2013. It is a gem. Tows our 2019 Airstream Flying Cloud 25' trailer like a champ. 8600 LBS Gross Vehicle Weight Rating. Rated to tow 7000 LBS. All in great comfortable leather interior. The Transit Wagon (van with full factory interior) sucks as a tow vehicle. No frame, rated to tow less than 5000 LBS, tiny brakes compared to the E Series. The old school E Series vans are tough as nails. Ask any commercial user. Takes a beating and asks for more. Parts are available everywhere and they are easy to work on. Enough said.
Exactly! The new Transit sucks as a tow vehicle and it makes me sick 🤢. I was hoping to tow my boat and only need 5k towing but that would max out the Transit
and make sure you have no CEL codes.. quite a few of them will kill mpg.. and vacuum leaks if the 14 still has that for heater controls, they will make it run like crap
My 2004 E350 Ext cargo 6.0 diesel van gets up to 22 mpg, I've got the atlas 80 FICM Tune and a 4" straight pipe with 356,700 k flys the interstate like a Peterbilt!
In the UK the Transit is literally a by-word for vans. Most people will just refer to any van as a transit. That's how much of an impact that Van has had over here.
I have a 2020 Ford Transit all wheel drive and love it , mainly because it's less maintenance than Mercedes Benz sprinter 4×4. I would love to see an all-wheel drive with a lift kit going up against an E-Series with a 4x4 kit on it
Transits was made for UK driving conditions. Lifted Econolines with extra wide tires probably wouldn't work very well on our tight roads. I see why it could be preferable in the states though.
I've had my 1983 E-100 Shorty since new. It has the 4.9L 300-6. Still runs good. The new ones...Transit....has that Euro version look that doesn't look good to me. I hear they're not that reliable, at least that's what mechanics I use say. I doubt if I'll ever get one. And by the way.....screw Time magazine!
Jeremy Johnson has enlightened me regarding the history of the E-Series and Transit, and I thank him. That said, I think at last count, I have had fourteen E-Series vans from 1974 through the last, and current E-150 of 2013. Worked at Ford Body Engineering for 26 years, and had a pretty current model most of the time. 240cid's through 460's. Tricked many of them out with interiors and drive trains. Used them for camping, hauling race sailing catamarans, tournament ski boats, dirt bikes, scuba diving, hauling windsurf, hang gliding, mountain and road biking equipment, electrical, plumbing, framing, welding, trades, aviation related maintenance, towing agricultural equipment, sailplanes, kiteboarding, snow kite skiing, wind foiling, etc. My new 2022 Tranny is said to be in transit from production to the dealer as we speak. Guess I'm gonna find out pretty quick how the low-roof shrew compares to those bad-ass buggies of the past. Thanks again for the creative reflections on the models, Jeremy.
I have a 93 e350 and I'm needing an upgrade. I love in it as well as run Mt handyman business out of it. I already have the solar. I went from a Chevy truck and I love the ford van. Now I need to decide which the e or the transit to get a newer model
@@ritch_j I’ve had a Ford Transit on order since Mid October 2021…they aren’t building it yet either. I was debating between the GMC Savana and Ford Transit. I’m thinking I may regret the Transit…if it ever gets built.
I ordered a new GMC Savana with the new 6.6l 400 hp small block last July ! It just got built, and being shipped to SoCal. Why ? I wanted a new gmc van to do my build, afraid the van may be discontinued in the future.
@@JimJones-gd2jy There is a good chance my Ford Transit will get “Unscheduled - Balanced Out” (aka not built). If that happens I think I will order a 3500 GMC Savana with the 6.6L engine. I’d prefer the body on frame with 10k towing.
@@DanOnWheels yah man! I just ordered my Chevy express 6.6 with all the bells and whistles after being rejected on the transit ordering. Saved 20k and I’m getting body on frame with that towing. I’m so excited. Hopefully it’ll actually be built quickly
Ive been driving them since 1994. Best vans ever. I think for the price of a new transit I might just channel my inner Cuban and patch up this 2002. Any chance your doing patch panel tutorials? :) Only 120k now.
As a owner operator you have to have a newer 148wb high roof van to get contracts. If I was buying a van for my self to work on I'd get something else.
Ive had 3 econoline , 78, 96 and an 06 i still have and 1 transit 250 medium roof, which i sold at 22k miles. For heavy loads , off road abuse and overall durability the econoline whips the transit every time. The transit was a dud for me. Built too light , the hitch is bolted to sheet metal, couldn't handle the daily dirt road pounding etc.
I have a 2010 E350 with the 5.4. I find the mileage to be fairly good! Mostly highway miles. Don't have any figures for you. I'm told the E series has more legroom than the Transit, at least for the driver. I think that is of note. Thank you for the video.
I’ve got a 2013 E150/E250. I do expedite shipping and run it like a dog. It is about to turn over 300,000 miles and runs great. The body and frame are in excellent shape and if the motor ever blows I’m just going to rebuild it. The payload and towing capacities are very similar between the E Series and the Transit but I’ve gone over the max payload in mine on a few occasions by quite a bit and it didn’t act any different. I’ve seen Transits buried with a ton in the back. Inmy opinion the E Series is much easier to do engine work on with the dog house in the cab. I’ve gone through 10 inches of snow with good tires no problem in it. The Transit is a great work vehicle as well but I’d probably opt for another E Series before I got a Transit.
@@videos10 as long as nothing major happens like a rod blowing out or something like that I’ll probably just rebuild. If I happen to come across an engine I may rebuild that and just swap that way I have less down time.
I got an extended '04 E350 V10 in Nov. Cheap. 80K on it and it's bone dry underneath. No oil anywhere. Ripped out all the seats, the manky carpet, etc. Interior is almost ready to go road trip/camping. The amount of torque/power is ridiculous, as far as the headroom goes, you live out of it, not in it. The gas mileage fairly light and empty is ok, I just cant drive it 85. Going 70 instead makes a huge difference.
I had a 2000 e 150 low top conversion with a 4.6 that got about 20 mpg on the highway. Also, the video never even mentions the 4.2l. I have a 99 hi top conversion with the 4.2 (unfortunately)
Which Van is best if you are trying to keep it at or under 82 inchs in Outside Height and 80inchs Wide? For Parking is all I have room for. Im having a hard time figuruing out which one as Specs are all over the place. Depending on the Web site for some reason.
My '97 e350 v10 extended recently got 16-17 mpg from SF to Portland and back loaded with my sons stuff taking him to college. Set cruise at 70. That thing about 13 mpg in the 6.0? My 06 F250 got 22-23 on the freeway, SF to Pismo beach and back.
I'd put shelves and a tiny wall and composting toilet and deliver packages and mail if I can get one of these in right handed drive or a conversion kit for right handed drive.
Where's the follow up video to this? Which is better to live with daily? Drive thru ability? What's their off road ability especially if full of passengers? Real world MPG with current gas and diesel prices?
Call me crazy but I love the 4.9L / 300 straight 6. Sure, not a ton of horsepower, but totally bulletproof and lasts forever. I'm all for the E-series. I want an old-school vehicle I can actually wrench on myself. Not something that requires a degree from MIT just to change the oil.
E-Series forever!
We should make a new club..... HEHE
Wait a minute I was going to say that.
I like the way the E-Series drive way better
Too bad they stopped making them in 2014 😭
@@videos10for real??. They really stop making such a good vehicle ?.
Trust me you want the 4.6L. They don’t die.
Who are you specifically that we should just "trust [you]"? Give some data or experiences or SOMETHING
The 4.6s are famously known to in the Crown Vic’s, Town Cars, Grand Marquis, F-150s, and Mustangs. All of them are incredibly reliable.
Had every engine the E series ever had. The “truck 6 “ 300 ci shit all over the 4.6 as did the 351 W (with cross flow injection) and definitely the 460 ci. The 4.6 totally underpowered and got worse mpg than most of the larger engines. 5.4 triton was ok as long as you could keep the spark plugs in the heads !! Same as the V 10. ( just a 5.4 with 2xtra cylinders slapped on ). 4.6 in my explorer and clown car - great. In the e250 sucked
@@StepheMauro-kh1px I hated my 4.6 until my mechanic changed e2 sensors, plugs, coil pack, cleaned mass air flow sensor, and got the computer shifting the trans correctly. I carry heavy loads and no longer get pushed around by SUVs. 2005 200k miles.
The 5.4 2 valve is pretty bulletproof as well , I mean it's no 300 inline ... but if you take care if it it's a great engine
My 2008 has 372K runs great. Had transmission rebuilt once.
My coworker has a 2004 with 508K and refuses to get a newer one.
We both plan on driving them to the ground lol😅❤🎉. E-Series Rocks!
I just picked up 2013 Ford Econoline 350 XLT with 18K miles. There is something about the look of the Econoline attracts me to it more than the Transiit even the Transit got better mileage or room inside. Just update new infotaining and sound system. Next will work on lift :)
Great video there Jeremy!
It’s body on frame, usually with V8 motor, and transmissions that cannot be killed, . .. E vans were the most reliable vehicles ever built, they can take so much abuse and still go.
What are you getting MPG?
Yes! I think you are the only place where we van enthusiast can learn the optional overland builds available for the newer Transit.
Especially, the difference in mpg between stock and lifted larger wheels. Of course it will also depend upon the Transit engine size. Hopefully, you will show the 3.7 because that is the most common. Also, standard vs 4x4.
Thanks for the show!
That's what we're about. We're here to inform and entertain. It's awesome to see you watching our content and learning something too. Comparing a Standard vs 4x4 could make for a great future video! We'll keep that idea on deck!
I bought a Ford 2021 E350 cutaway van with a 14'5 box and a 7.3 gas motor. I took it to 5star tuning and had them tune it to above the F350 tune.
The box has a 84" interior height and 79" interior width.
I have converted it into an RV.
I bought it to tow a modified Jeep around the USA, Canada and Mexico on a trailer.
With the tune on the 7.3 I am getting 12.8 mpg. The tow rating is 12,000 lbs with a 4.56 gears and the 6 speed auto.
Send us pics! i would love to see that!
Why did you choose the 6-speed instead of the 10-speed?
@@pronewbofficial the 10 speed is not available in the E350 platform.
I would have gotten a 10 speed if available
I have been thinking about doing this. Did you buy the new cab from Ford and then shopped for a box? Or did you buy yours complete from Uhaul or something?
@cvcoco I bought a new one and special ordered it. It's a FedEx spec cutaway van. I'm tall so I ordered it with a 84" interior height and a 79" interior width. I wish I had of gone with the E450.
I am a huge fan of the old school Econoline. Timeless workhorse. But I recently drove a Transit cargo van a few hundred miles and I was blown away. The steering and handling was shockingly agile. So I guess I just love Ford vans lol.
I own a 2020 transit. Drives like a car. Very agile.
It is a car! that is the problem.
My 2010 is on beast mode. 6 day work day. Pushing 600 k. Change oil once a month
Does it burn oil or do you just drive it a lot?
@@WeldtecDesigns it does burn oil as 13+ years has a tendency to make the oil seals not quite a perfect tight. I never stomp on the gas and rarely go above 70 mph
Arizona 2005 Ford E350 XLT SUPER DUTY V10 6.8 for sale after watching this !!! I had no idea that my van was so popular and in such high demand !!!
I don't usually sit for long videos but I'm able to watch your videos all the way through and wanting more !!! Very entertaining and informative !!!
Thank you for watching and hanging out with us on this video! Glad you liked it!
Paramedics frequently work part time jobs. Mine was for a company that only picked up patients at all those free-standing ER's that popped up everywhere. Good business model for an ambulance service, very profitable. We got the first Transits that were made into ambulances. I had just retired from a municipal EMS that used F-F450's with HUGE boxes mounted on them, an Iowa class battlewagon. So I went from having all the room in the world with all the storage space for all the cool paramedic toys in the universe to a narrow shoebox. Its ok for non-emergency local transports (the bulk of the business in the freestanding ER to hospital niche) . It was uncomfortable on longer trips. They had frequent electrical and cooling system problems. The Ram Pro Master ambulance conversions have made big inroads into the market. They have a lower load height for one. I started EMS in the 80's for a private company that used E-350's with a high fiberglass top attached. They were rugged, strong, fast and maneuverable. Not many of those are being made now. (Because the Transits and Pro Master have higher roof options from the factory) Most E350 chassis ambulances are just the van cab and a box mounted on the frame. We swapped from gas to diesel in the early 90's. More torque, held up better. There's a move back to gas going on. Diesel is much more expensive now.
Both have their place, but for me the versatility of the econoline far outshines the transit. Mine is a Quigley 4x4 with the 7.3 Diesel. The transit just won’t do what I need. It’s a nice, light duty, comfortable vehicle.
I am with you... Maybe because the Econoline was my first van.
i owned 7 Ford econolines...75 to 95....from 351 , 300 six....302.....in 2015 i bought a new T 250 mid roof 3.7 non turbo......the Transit has given more problems...that all 7 Econolines...while i like the heights...lengths and handling of Transit....but cant keep brakes on it...28,000 miles.never pulls a trailer even though it got trailer towing package....under gross vehicle weight...they didnt update brakes pads look like car typle...,,now is a good time to mention you have to pull rear axles out to replace rear rotors and brakes...costly......hard to work on ...try changing automatic transmission fluid in one..as far as engines...when empty the 3.7 is a little better on gas...but when loaded no better than 351 v8...i wish Ford had kept chasis and engines of the Econolines...and make mid and hi roof editions of it....also just read on all these sites how bad direct injection clogging intake valves...and cam phasers...and chainging are ware out on these new engines...something never had to worry about with Econolines..
I have several E150's. If I don't get atleast 600,000 miles out of the original 4.6 engine and transmission, I'm disappointed.I know the local Ford dealer service manager and he told me that the Transits just don't last like the E series did. He said if they 250,000 miles out of a transit they think they've done something.
Worth mentioning....the COMMONALITY of the E-Series makes it a homerun for traveling...they are EVERYWHERE! Tons of mechanics ALL over know how to work on them and there are parts in EVERY auto parts store coast to coast. As I say "they're as common as pond water"
so true not to mention junk yard everywhere full of parts if your in a bind.
@@WeldtecDesignsMy local yard has 75 E Series in stock.
Love the passion! Thx for the history lesson.
Great video and information 👍🏼👍🏼
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Wow! That's a lot of info to digest. Great video!
You will be tested on this after the video!
The 7.3 was available in the 95 model, I have one. 20 mpg on the freeway.
Great video! Like the effort 👌
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Great! Can’t wait to see more.
Thanks for a great informative video
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This content was excellent!
With class c/B RV choices, which one do you recommend?
Sprinter Mercedes
RAM
Ford Transit?
Thanks
Great video
I have a 2007 E350 with the 5.4 and yes sucks a lot of gas but I love it so far is been a super good van, I tow with it few times a small toy hauler and even that is loaded with tools for my business over 2500lbs it pulled nicely, I put a awning on it to use when camping etc and if you see this van in the cargo area I will say is the only van like that because I set it neat and everything is Milwaukee packout drawers etc ,I can called my Milwaukee van! That's how nice is set up, I can't go wrong with what I have now, very happy with it!, purchase this van under 93000 miles and just remove the thermostat a week ago and loving it! ,didn't have any issues yet and it's about 110000 miles with still factory parts, only belt and thermostat so far.
My 350 extended is a beast! Last night I parked next to a giant transit and was shocked!
It was longer and taller? But only had a 6 cyl. Towing anybody?
I would be interested in knowing the difference in interior dimensions of the E Series vs the Transits.
They're both pretty good, i drove a 2006 Econoline at work and its a solid vehicle, my dad has a 2015 transit it drives very nice and has been pretty reliable, besides some fuel pump gremlins because it's a first year Transit.
Good stuff. I just got a Ford Transit 350 EXT High Roof. I tows less and has less get up and go thanow my El350 with a V8 but I am 6'4 so standing up in the back was more importan than towing. As a side note: It's a city van not a back road, driving over curbs and stuff van
We all need to run off a curb! just fun but i get standing up is important. Thanks
I really like your channel. Thank you for everything.
Not a problem and you're welcome!
Played it at x 1.5 speed and I think you just sold me a Ford van, okay I have one but I'm pretty sure you just said I need two! Great video!
Great to know you like the video. Hopefully the video was just as good watching it at x 1.5 speed!
This guy is great 👍 I really enjoy watching many of his videos.. good family man too
that was awesome Jeremy....you are awesome and passionate! now show us the lift transit 5'' in action in the trail...what it can and can't do?!?!?!!!!
Thanks Jonathan, I definitely appreciate your kind words! Doing a video got the 5" on a Transit could be a possibility. Stay tuned!
Wish you guys would have just told us which ven you believe is more reliable. Im so annoyed
Great information, thanks
Not a problem at all, glad the video was informative and that you enjoyed it!
The E-Series is perfect for me. I currently own two.
1998 E-Super Duty (early name for the E450) with the 6.8L V10
2000 E150 with the little 4.2L V6
The only thing I dislike on my E450 is the lack of a parking brake for the Dana-80. The driveline brake doesn't work all that great.
I'll never own a Transit. The drivers door is the main reason why I won't give it a chance. I want a full window opening like the E-Series or at least a large window opening and a functional vent window like all the 3rd gen Econoline vans I've owned.
what's wrong with the transit window? it looks plenty big to me.. my work e250 has no vent windows and the bosses 350 doesn't either.
@@angsta22 The 3rd gen had the functional vent windows. The 4th gen doesn't have the vent windows but has a full window opening.
The Transit has a tall narrow window opening and a fixed glass for the forward quarter glass. And the bottom slopes down toward the front. Driven several Transit vans and want to like them, but I just don't.
Why do you even need a parking brake?
@@jeepcollector91 window full or split is less of a problem compared to the tranny issues Transits have
I hate the transit window as well.... LOL
Great video I am looking into getting the transit 2016
Good one! More like this!!
What was you favorite part?
Great Video! Thanks. As a man who is about to embark on retirement and van life I'm very happy to be able to get the high roof extended transit, I mean it's the perfect vehicle for RV conversion. However we all know that there is no comparison between the econoline and transit but hanks for trying.
Simply put the transit is poossy unibrow euro eco trash. Econoline is strong beefy American goodness!
Well put STAH.... so much to love about the American GOODNESS..
You’re funny!
My Transit has the 3.5 engine. I put all terrain tires on it. It also has the trailer tow package. I outfitted it for camping. A couple of years ago I camped in the Arizona desert. It did fine.
So... If you want a bullet prof van, get an E-series. If you need tall roof and better mpg, get a transit
The Canadian version of the 60-67 Ford Econoline is the Mercury Econoline.
Awesome information!
Ford made a HUGE mistake when they stopped making the Econoline, My 1997 has 52,000 and is still brand new. The transit is a NO BUY for me. Thx for sharing
I totally agree
have a transit hate it miss my old e 350
It wasn't a mistake. It was intentional.
They make more money by selling less reliable vehicles.
Please am in Ghana 🇬🇭 we use ford e series much i love ford so much because of its safety ford has be in its safety for over 48 years no car manufacture company can compete you the ford company still strong
Ha! Smiles per gallon! You got me right there. Have owned three Econolines. Still have my 2002. Coming up on 300,000 Smiles. Love it's Triton 5.4 Converted two other extended to campers. Now im looking for a fourth to convert and I'll want you to put a 5" lift kit on it. Great Ford product.
Always like and comment on good videos.👍
This video looks well done
97' 7.3PSD Econoline 350 vs 21' 3.5EB Transit MR, transit tows way better hands down. More usable power, never look at the gauges, stability for trailer and crosswind. My 97 had a tuner and a built trans, and this transit still walks it everywhere.
I have a 95 E350 club wagon XL with the 4.9 300 I6, its a good van with a 10,000lb tow rate but honestly it won't pull out of its own way. And im getting between 8.8-9.5 mpg
You never mentioned the 5.8 351 Windsor or Cleveland motor in this video. I got a 1996 e350 super duty extended 15 passenger with a 351 Cleveland I believe .I really like it
That was last year for it. It had the same induction system as the H O mustang. - awesome motor wish I still had mine
Why in the world would ford stope making e250 vans of it was their best sellers?????????
they actually sell more transits?
Hey my 3.7 may only have 275 hp, but she has 310k on the clock and I have towed so many vehicles on my car hauler.. broken 😂 towed a 6.0 E series to my friends house
Not surprising as 6.0s are garbage
I own a 2013 E150 XLT Premuim van. It has every option available from the factory in 2013. It is a gem. Tows our 2019 Airstream Flying Cloud 25' trailer like a champ. 8600 LBS Gross Vehicle Weight Rating. Rated to tow 7000 LBS. All in great comfortable leather interior. The Transit Wagon (van with full factory interior) sucks as a tow vehicle. No frame, rated to tow less than 5000 LBS, tiny brakes compared to the E Series. The old school E Series vans are tough as nails. Ask any commercial user. Takes a beating and asks for more. Parts are available everywhere and they are easy to work on. Enough said.
I am with you, wish you could still get them new.
Exactly! The new Transit sucks as a tow vehicle and it makes me sick 🤢. I was hoping to tow my boat and only need 5k towing but that would max out the Transit
My 4.6 is a sweet motor an I’m getting about 18 mpg
I been driving econolines for almost 3 decades!!!! 👍 🇺🇸
a true work horse of a van!
Awesome Video and editing!!
I love my 14 E350……but I’m not gonna lie…the MPG is hard to ignore these days.
and make sure you have no CEL codes.. quite a few of them will kill mpg.. and vacuum leaks if the 14 still has that for heater controls, they will make it run like crap
Thank you so much for liking this video! MPG is something nowadays.
My 2004 E350 Ext cargo 6.0 diesel van gets up to 22 mpg, I've got the atlas 80 FICM Tune and a 4" straight pipe with 356,700 k flys the interstate like a Peterbilt!
In the UK the Transit is literally a by-word for vans. Most people will just refer to any van as a transit. That's how much of an impact that Van has had over here.
Same in Argentina. Transit and Sprinters were in the market for ages. Both produced in the country.
really good video...
Thanks a ton! We really appreciate your time and giving us a comment!
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Correction: 1995 - 2003 = E Series with 7.3 Power Stroke Turbo Diesel.
I would really love to see a ford econoline in the wild, especially the fourth generation. bonus points if it's a box truck!
You've got my attention and I'm just lustin for more! How does the transit work out in comparison to the Econo line in 2023??
We will let you know as we just a 2023 AWD Ford Transit to start the testing!
I have a 2020 Ford Transit all wheel drive and love it , mainly because it's less maintenance than Mercedes Benz sprinter 4×4. I would love to see an all-wheel drive with a lift kit going up against an E-Series with a 4x4 kit on it
We would love to see those two go head to head!
Transits was made for UK driving conditions. Lifted Econolines with extra wide tires probably wouldn't work very well on our tight roads. I see why it could be preferable in the states though.
I've had my 1983 E-100 Shorty since new. It has the 4.9L 300-6. Still runs good. The new ones...Transit....has that Euro version look that doesn't look good to me. I hear they're not that reliable, at least that's what mechanics I use say. I doubt if I'll ever get one. And by the way.....screw Time magazine!
Jeremy Johnson has enlightened me regarding the history of the E-Series and Transit, and I thank him. That said, I think at last count, I have had fourteen E-Series vans from 1974 through the last, and current E-150 of 2013. Worked at Ford Body Engineering for 26 years, and had a pretty current model most of the time. 240cid's through 460's. Tricked many of them out with interiors and drive trains. Used them for camping, hauling race sailing catamarans, tournament ski boats, dirt bikes, scuba diving, hauling windsurf, hang gliding, mountain and road biking equipment, electrical, plumbing, framing, welding, trades, aviation related maintenance, towing agricultural equipment, sailplanes, kiteboarding, snow kite skiing, wind foiling, etc. My new 2022 Tranny is said to be in transit from production to the dealer as we speak. Guess I'm gonna find out pretty quick how the low-roof shrew compares to those bad-ass buggies of the past. Thanks again for the creative reflections on the models, Jeremy.
Thanks so much for your kind words! glad you like the video.
Pretty comprehensive comparative - really informative. Would like to see some real world application examples to see where each excel. Nice job!
I have a 93 e350 and I'm needing an upgrade. I love in it as well as run Mt handyman business out of it. I already have the solar. I went from a Chevy truck and I love the ford van. Now I need to decide which the e or the transit to get a newer model
Awesome video.
Thanks for watching. I'm glad you enjoyed it.
I’d also enjoy a GMC Savana vs Ford Transit as you can purchase both new (until GM changes the Savana to who knows what).
tried ordering a GMC Savana, there just not building them yet.
@@ritch_j I’ve had a Ford Transit on order since Mid October 2021…they aren’t building it yet either. I was debating between the GMC Savana and Ford Transit. I’m thinking I may regret the Transit…if it ever gets built.
I ordered a new GMC Savana with the new 6.6l 400 hp small block last July ! It just got built, and being shipped to SoCal. Why ? I wanted a new gmc van to do my build, afraid the van may be discontinued in the future.
@@JimJones-gd2jy There is a good chance my Ford Transit will get “Unscheduled - Balanced Out” (aka not built). If that happens I think I will order a 3500 GMC Savana with the 6.6L engine. I’d prefer the body on frame with 10k towing.
@@DanOnWheels yah man! I just ordered my Chevy express 6.6 with all the bells and whistles after being rejected on the transit ordering. Saved 20k and I’m getting body on frame with that towing. I’m so excited. Hopefully it’ll actually be built quickly
Amazing video! I'd definitely chooses the Ecoline for me.
Econoline can pull 5 of those transits ) .. while transit barely pulls it self only untill 60K when it tranny goes south
That would be a fun video!
Looks like your not alone ^^^^^
Ive been driving them since 1994. Best vans ever. I think for the price of a new transit I might just channel my inner Cuban and patch up this 2002. Any chance your doing patch panel tutorials? :) Only 120k now.
Love it nice job god bless
Thank you! 😊
As a owner operator you have to have a newer 148wb high roof van to get contracts. If I was buying a van for my self to work on I'd get something else.
Ive had 3 econoline , 78, 96 and an 06 i still have and 1 transit 250 medium roof, which i sold at 22k miles. For heavy loads , off road abuse and overall durability the econoline whips the transit every time. The transit was a dud for me. Built too light , the hitch is bolted to sheet metal, couldn't handle the daily dirt road pounding etc.
Exactly! Plus the max tow rating for transit is 4k? WTF! Modern van should have V8 options for towing more than 5k!
Great Video
I have a 2010 E350 with the 5.4. I find the mileage to be fairly good! Mostly highway miles. Don't have any figures for you. I'm told the E series has more legroom than the Transit, at least for the driver. I think that is of note. Thank you for the video.
Thanks for sharing, I still am a big fan of the E-series
Jeremy I’m looking for an extra long E350 or E450. Let me know if you come across any or if some one doesn’t pick up their van.
I’ve got a 2013 E150/E250. I do expedite shipping and run it like a dog. It is about to turn over 300,000 miles and runs great. The body and frame are in excellent shape and if the motor ever blows I’m just going to rebuild it. The payload and towing capacities are very similar between the E Series and the Transit but I’ve gone over the max payload in mine on a few occasions by quite a bit and it didn’t act any different. I’ve seen Transits buried with a ton in the back. Inmy opinion the E Series is much easier to do engine work on with the dog house in the cab. I’ve gone through 10 inches of snow with good tires no problem in it. The Transit is a great work vehicle as well but I’d probably opt for another E Series before I got a Transit.
It is awesome to hear all these great E-Series stories. Thanks for sharing.
Do you think rebuilding the engine would be better than an engine swap?. I'm in the same situation as you
@@videos10 as long as nothing major happens like a rod blowing out or something like that I’ll probably just rebuild. If I happen to come across an engine I may rebuild that and just swap that way I have less down time.
I have an 05 E350 6.0 for my small business it has been a great vehicle and grown my business by 70 percent.
Do you have lift kits for the 2022 Transit 350 upfitter model.
Yes it should be the same as the regular 350 suspension?
great vid. I think I'll keep my 2002 Quigley a bit longer
I don't blame you for that!
I got an extended '04 E350 V10 in Nov. Cheap. 80K on it and it's bone dry underneath. No oil anywhere. Ripped out all the seats, the manky carpet, etc. Interior is almost ready to go road trip/camping. The amount of torque/power is ridiculous, as far as the headroom goes, you live out of it, not in it. The gas mileage fairly light and empty is ok, I just cant drive it 85. Going 70 instead makes a huge difference.
Possibly looking to get 7.3 eseries box ambulance in the future for a camper build.
We are building one now in the shop, i will try to do a video on it.
I had a 2000 e 150 low top conversion with a 4.6 that got about 20 mpg on the highway. Also, the video never even mentions the 4.2l. I have a 99 hi top conversion with the 4.2 (unfortunately)
Which Van is best if you are trying to keep it at or under 82 inchs in Outside Height and 80inchs Wide? For Parking is all I have room for. Im having a hard time figuruing out which one as Specs are all over the place. Depending on the Web site for some reason.
A chevy express.... ? have you considered that?
@@WeldtecDesigns I ll check that out now. Thanks!
My '97 e350 v10 extended recently got 16-17 mpg from SF to Portland and back loaded with my sons stuff taking him to college. Set cruise at 70. That thing about 13 mpg in the 6.0? My 06 F250 got 22-23 on the freeway, SF to Pismo beach and back.
I'd put shelves and a tiny wall and composting toilet and deliver packages and mail if I can get one of these in right handed drive or a conversion kit for right handed drive.
Good video, how about econoline vs sprinter?
Great suggestion! who has a sprinter van that we can compare?
what about cargo capacity, which can handle higher weight capacity ?transit or the E- series ( in terms of the 250 not 150)
Where's the follow up video to this? Which is better to live with daily? Drive thru ability? What's their off road ability especially if full of passengers? Real world MPG with current gas and diesel prices?
I know right! we have to get busy!
loved it! im on the transit side
My 98 E250 w/ 5.4 2v haas been awesome
My mom had a 3rd generation conversion. Green. Thing was bad ass. With she still had it.
I can't find them in western Texas. Either one. Where are you located.
My first ride was a 69 Econoline. Good times
The transit is still solid rear axle with leaf springs right?
Just help me know that the E-series is the best choice for me or I should say confirm it that it is
The E-Series is going to be my fav as well!
Call me crazy but I love the 4.9L / 300 straight 6. Sure, not a ton of horsepower, but totally bulletproof and lasts forever. I'm all for the E-series. I want an old-school vehicle I can actually wrench on myself. Not something that requires a degree from MIT just to change the oil.