They build apologies to environmental wack jobs, not cars for customers. I quit buying vehicle in 1996 and just kept my vehicle of the time. I hate modern vehicles. I am not taking my work home with me. I am messing with modern garbage all night.
i've been an electronic tech for 40 plus years, the more tech in cars the more time i spend on them. but never again will i work on a tesla. i have seen better electrics on an alpha romeo
The sad thing is that when it was obvious that the CVT transmissions were horrible, they just stayed with them until the present. They NEVER addressed the problem!
Exactly. It's hard for big companies to admit mistakes because it means someone has to speak up instead of being a yes man. Not being a yes man gets you fired and admitting mistakes means someone has to get fired, that someone is at the top and doesn't want to fire themselves.
This pretty much sums all car companies . Instead of fixing their crappy components, they release new flashy models every 2-3 years or so.. instead of fixing /improving their current engine/transmission, etc. I
I have had to murano’s ( 2003 - 2020 and 2015 onward) I have never had any problems with the cvt transmission with over 370,000kms on both cars. I even tow a 20 ft ultralight RV with no problems
My dummy sister in law had a versa. Many issues along with the cvt. She was blessed by being rear ended and they totaled the car. We tried to beat Honda or Toyota into her brain. A random Friday she was showing us Honda's she's been looking at. Saturday afternoon she came home with a 2012 focus. All Google results tell you that 2012 focus was the worst focus ever built. She came home Sunday complaining that her trans was bucking. You can lead a horse to water.
I used to have a 2014 Focus.. The car itself was good but the transmission was nothing but expensive trouble. I sold it and got a 2021 Versa in its place. I have the manual transmission 😉 in this one.. Also makes a great anti theft feature.. Not many people nowadays would know how to start it let alone shift it..
Back in the 80's, Nissan had great cars. Young guys loved the 280Z, the 200SX and the hardbody pickups. Their cars were really well made and you could drive them, trouble free, for years and years. The 90's brought out their off roaders like the X-Terra and Pathfinder. In the early 00's it seemed like every other car on the road was a Nissan Altima. Then came Carlos Ghosn and the Jatco CVT. All those loyal customers got so badly burned on those cars and never bought another one. Nissan gained a reputation for bad transmission quality but easy financing. People who couldn't get credit anywhere else could get a Nissan. Now they are the Firestone 500 tire of car brands.
@@csinalabama73 Nissan also make Nissan Skyline GTR R32-R34 which is more affordable than Nissan GTR R35 now. Yes Carlos Ghosn messed up the R35 and put in a V6 engine which basically just enlarged VQ engine with turbo in it instead of using an RB engine. In between that there’s was a Nissan Skyline 250/350GT which is just an upscaled 350Z and its use VQ35 engine. It’s like using 300ZX engine in a Skyline GTR. Carlos Chosn think America don’t deserve a good car so he don’t give us a Nissan Teana that Japan have, what we have instead in a cheap feel and ugly looking Nissan Altima and Maxima is no where near as luxurious as a Teana. He’s probably the reason why America doesn’t get Nissan Skyline as well. Also Nissan March K13 would be nice to have for some people especially with 3 cylinder and manual here in America but no he forced American to pay more for a Nissan Versa with 4 cylinder that sound so bad. Oh speaking of which where is Nissan Patrol especially the one with 6 cylinder diesel? Yup we don’t have it either. If you want to feel like a Japanese Nissan in 2000s you go with an Infiniti they are basically a rebadge Japan only premium Nissan models like Fuga and Cima. Guess what? Carlos Ghosn discontinued Nissan Fuga along with Nissan Cima and Nissan President and Infiniti has lost its identity that some models was a rebadged Mercedes-Benz and its SUV only at this moment Charles Ghosn replace older beautiful Nissan chime with an ear bleeding Beeps chime I hate it at least Infiniti M35 accessory chime sound nice but I wish it also use in a starting chime too. Nissan definitely lose it charm just like Mitsubishi
That's me also. My 240Z lasted for 660-thousand miles. I only abandoned it for parts, when I could not get repair parts anymore. It was easy to repair, and we put all sorts of "extras" into it, such as electronic ignition. Also, the 280Z engines fit into these, so we did that also, and added the heavy duty drivelines and rear ends. The "cold start" problem with the Mikunis, was easily solved by adding a manual choking system. The JATCO transmissions were almost bulletproof, and could do 120mph in second gear (verified by me), and did not explode when shifted.
Since when Firestone 500 tires gone to shit? Will have to check that out. I know all the Chinese tires sold at Walmart are shit. You'll be lucky to get 10,000 miles out of them. Tires are the most important component of a car after brakes.
Since when do the Japanese refer to Mexican Engineers for quality and durability? Carlos Ghosn. His last name doesn't have enough vowels. LoL. I wonder if he is thinking about his Legacy right about now. The man who designed the worse transmission in automotive history.
Exactly. Pretty much all French cars are like this - great when new, trash after 3 years, sometimes earlier. Crappy and disposable, built to serve 3 years as rental, then off to scrapyard. You're American, want a French car experience, but they don't sell them in US/Canada?? No problem, just get a Nissan.
I recently met a guy who has a Subaru Crosstrek with 308,000 miles on it. I asked him about his CVT and if he had and issues and he said, no. BUT he had the CVT fluid changed every 50,000 miles and with Subaru's fluid. Subaru America says it's a sealed system and it never needs changed. Subaru Japan says to change it by 60,000 miles. I recently bought a 2024 Forester Wilderness, I'll be following what Subaru Japan recommends.
Interesting comment! As a Subaru person, I had wondered about the conflicting Recommendations "Never change the fluid " and the 60K interval. Now the question is how much do these CVT fluid changes cost in comparison to an old school 5 speed auto?
Subaru Honda and Toyota have the best CVT transmissions they had problems from 2013-2017 on certain models but they extended the warranties on those cars and fixed the bad transmissions. Honda and Subaru CVT's are designed and built in house while Toyota uses the Aisin CVT which is built by Aisin transmissions which Toyota owns. Seems like a common thread here is the best CVT's are in house built.
@mgreg8134 it's not a "who built it" problem. It's a design problem with the jatco CVT. Even if you rebuild one right it will eventually fail the same.
I am a recently retired mechanic with 37 years experience. I tore down one of those JATCO (Japanese Automatic Transmission Company) transmissions, which had failed with under 80,000 miles on it. It was a total nightmare. It was completely filled with metal dust. The belt and pulleys were ground up, the valve bodies were all plugged up. I didn't have to remove it from the car, though I understand it came from a Nissan Juke. I didn't try to rebuild it, I just wanted to see what was inside. It was literally sickening. And it is not just Nissan that uses these JUNK transmissions. Mitsubishi, Mazda, Renault, Audi, Land Rover, Jaguar, Ford, and likely several other vehicles use these things. I worked for a large city government fleet department, and were required to buy only American brand vehicles. Many of those were junk as well, though I never saw one with a JATCO transmission. And it's not just JATCO. They are the worst, but ALL CVTs are JUNK. There was one car in the fleet that stood out as being by far the most reliable vehicle we had. The Ford Crown Vic. We usually retired them at 100,000 miles, especially the ones used as police cars. I have been driving them for 30 years. I currently have a 2006 Mercury Grand Marquis (same as the civilian Crown Vic) with 389,000 miles on it, still on the original engine and transmission, which have never been worked on. These cars use the 4 speed automatic overdrive 4R75E / 4R70W transmission. They can fail, but rarely ever do if properly maintained. They can be easily rebuilt, and rebuilt ones are not expensive. They are simple and easy to replace. The do not use a separate TCM (transmission control module) They have a PCM (powertrain control module) which controls both the engine and transmission. They could fail, but out of thousands of cars over many decades, I have never seen one fail. If you want a reliable and reasonably priced car, get a Ford Crown Vic or Mercury Grand Marquis. They can be kept going forever, and are easily worth replacing the engine/transmission in when they eventually do fail. Stay away from ANYTHING with a CVT.
@@roberthamann8987 No they don't. They don't make cars of ANY kind anymore. Just computerized spy devices on wheels. But there are plenty of used ones out there, and enough parts to keep them going for decades. New cars are a thing of the past.
This is why I went with a Mazda 3. They figured out how to get the same fuel mileage as CVT equipped cars do from other manufacturers, but they use a 6 speed automatic transmission instead. They get the fuel efficiency from using a 14:1 compression ratio with some weird piston techology that prevents engine knock at such high compression ratios for gas. Mazada calls the engine skyactive G.
Toyota CVT in town are worst gas mileage than manual transmission. Belt CVT are driven by friction, that's why they're less efficient than gear driven. Toyota do make gear driven Hybrid and they're very efficient.
@@armandohernan4610overall, most people just don't understand regular service and definitely don't want to pay for it. Nissan CVTs have improved, but Toyota is so much further ahead.
@@audionmusic2787 they are good for the "lifetime" of the vehicle. Which most manufacturers are going to say is 100k miles. If you change the fluid in a well made CVT, they can last.
I retired about 2010 after 40 years of being a mechanic, and I have 3 Honda Accords 1997 and yes their clutches were not the best in them, but I replaced them with newer up grades, And a seal kit and the engine I just replaced the rubber timing belts, but at least I can still work on them. And they don't have any programing like you were talking about. Your a brave mechanic to work on these newer cars. Good luck,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
The best made cars by every brand in automotive history: 1996 - 2006. Some manufacturers maybe 2010. My buddy has a 2005 GMC Yukon 6.0 liter V-8, all wheel drive with 330,000 miles still used as a daily driver. Only replaced suspension parts and water pump plus alternator. It still has original timing chain. My 1996 BMW 318Ti has 240,000 miles on it and runs great. Replaced starter and alternator and suspension parts. Luckily it is my 2nd car because it took a year to change the starter. Not even the best made American tools could remove the bolts i had to buy a German made E10 socket to get it off. Because BMW put the starter in backwards. Every other part is easy to get to. Best 2Door Hatchback ever made. It has GM's 4L60E auto transmission with an added button that puts the trans into manual sequential shifting. If you don't shift instead of shifting for you BMW cuts off the fuel pump so you don't ruin the transmission. So, I can put it in 3rd gear and drive around no problem starting and staying in 3rd gear. No shifting needed. Its rear wheel drive with traction control along with modified transmission to help you get through snow. I just think it's so cool to use 3rd gear from a stop instead of 1st gear without any strain on engine. But I'm easily amused. lol What wasn't amusing was the bloody starter. I actually took the new starter apart adding better and more grease before installing. 100% Synthetic. Would like to start using Amsoil for oil changes. Yeah, their oil may be able to go 10k miles between oil changes. But, I'm not sold there is an oil filter that can. Peace.
My wife tells me to buy newer car ,I told her I'm keeping my old 95 nissan hardbody truck 2.4 , 2002 Volvo and 2003 v6 mustang, good gas mileage, easy to work on. You have to be rich fix today's cars.
Even with new tech, drive, lane assist, cameras & warnings, accidents went up. Those cars are self distracting & then stick a screen on top of the dash. That's why Nissan & Infiniti can't continue. Those brands are junk.
They absolutely belong on cars they were banned to in F1 also ratio zero has developed a cvt that uses gears so yes cvt’s may have a future but current ones are ass
I love it how we say cars are not as reliable as theybused to be but conplain that the car only went 150k miles before transmission going out. In the 80s, youd be lucky to hit 100k with half the cars out there
Agreed but from 1988 or so and until 2006 or so formost manufacturers car quality greatly increased in many cars could get 200 to 300,000 miles. Some Toyota and Hondas 400 to 500k
Don't bring facts to an emotional argument. Cars today last longer than in almost any era and with inflation adjusted prices are similar in cost and are much safer and more efficient.
My 77 Monte Carlo had various problems by 80,000. My 89 Accord was still running well at 200,000 when I got rid of it, 170,000 on my 13 Altima right now.
My family have trucks from 1988, 1992, 1985 all with 350,000 miles or more. Still running Chevy and Ford. A friend had a 4runner from 1983 still running I don't know the mileage but he will go hunting with it driving a few hours out. So I'm sure that about 800,000 miles. I don't know what vehicles you were driving. But we won't buy the new chevys. But will never trade in our old around the ranch haul water trucks ever.
The awful truth is that the automobile was perfected 20 years ago where you can keep that same analog car and drive it for 25+ years if you just did regular maintenances. The problem with this business model is that automakers can't sell new cars for people who already have working cars. So they just sabotage quality to force you to buy new cars every few years like disposable products. Better to save your money and invest for gains.
@@1CommunityNotes1 Agreed! My daughter has a 2002 Suburban (SUV version of your Silverado) with 168K on the odometer. Still runs great. The only repairs have been brake pads, battery & water pump.
If they bring back the original nissan hardbody truck with a manual, that'll be enough to bail them out
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you are spot on. Had a 93 Hardbody and best vehicle ever owned. Drove it on the beach too much and the saltwater ate it up, but never spend a dime on anyting but tires and batteries
Emphasis on "IF". And don't you know there will soon not be a single manual transmission offered in any vehicle? A handful of Woke Lesbians have been complaining to all car companies that they "offended" because "Stick Shifts" are too masculine. I know. Sounds like a joke. But it isn't. Every Company would do well to take a new slogan: "We Don't Care You Are Offended". I'm thinking making some T-Shirts would sell like hotcakes. LoL
Still in my 2014 Altima 2.5, I change the CVT fluid with Amsoil CVT fluid and filters every 30k. I'm sitting at 210,000 miles. I drive it easy, I know I'm the minority.
I have a 2019 Honda Accord EX-L with a CVT transmission. CVT transmission require their fluid to be changed every 50,000 miles, and it is very important to do so! It's approximately $180 to have changed. CVT transmission is fun to drive. They just GO without shifting! It's wild hitting the gas. The car takes off and never really hits a high RPM till you're going ridiculously fast
Nissan did for the CVT what general motors did for the diesel engine. So many people were devastated financially by them, and they won't be trusting them ever again.
Growing up in the 80s and 90s my Parents drove did Mercury/Fords ,my Grandparents did GM but once they retired mainly it was Cadillac. My oldest cousin Godmother bought her a '85 Sentra when she was in College. Toyota/Honda and Nissan back then were known as good vehicles. Over time some family members started buying Nissan/Infiniti's in the 90s and early 2000s. Even neighbors and co workers liked their Nissan products. They were good reliable vehicles. But once the CVT's was placed in every vehicle it was down hill from there. This is nothing new , as I've seen Lawsuits and news articles from the late 2000s up till now. Nissan has refused to do anything about it. But people have continued to buy their products. But now people have truly gotten sick of it. I don't feel bad for Nissan, its their own doing. Recently i was planning to get a Maxima but too many negative reviews of the CVT. Ended up getting something else
Original owner of 2016 Maxima SV. I have 167,000 miles. Best car and longest-lasting transmission I ever had (so far), and I'm a 58 year old mechanical engineer (first car was a '76 Cutlass Supreme with 350V8). Fluid changes are important, ALL fluids, not just the CVT. Just saying.
Well said, problem is Nissan advertise to change the cvt oil every 80 k km but the safest option is actually 20k km. For those in the know and follow this frequency the transmission will last but the manufacture frequency is a purposeful death sentence.
We have a 2006 Nissan Tiida (I think in the US/Canada its badged as the Avensis) with a CVT trans and 209,500kms on the clock. We are the third owners, no issues at all. This car has been looked after well, with regular services and garaged. For the price we got it and the high milage, we will keep it for 3 years and then get another vehicle...maybe another Nissan. With CVT, I think its the rough driving style that puts a lot of stress on the transmission steel belts that wears them down faster. The ones that exploded internally are most probably where the driver floored it like when they were trying to come out of a stuck situation. I say its the drivers to blame.🐞
@mohabatkhanmalak1161 @mohabatkhanmalak1161 yes, once the CVT pulley gets scored, it's a never-ending spiral to disaster. Also cvt fluid changes every 40000 miles or so are important, along with the 2 CVT filters; there's a strainer in the pan and a pleated filter in a side housing.
Probably never been changed, any engine, gearbox would look the same. The CVT if maintained and driven accordingly is has reliable as any other transmission. But I would like to see them be replaced with a regular automatic.
Also the new pathfinder went back to a automatic transmission as of 2024 model year. They no longer put CVT in them due to complaints of the cvt issues.
My daughter in law has a V-6 Pathfinder with a CVT, we have had no issues with the transmission at all. It is 7 years old, my son understands the issues with the CVT and they drive it accordingly and flushes it every two years. It is owner ignorance that really causes issues with them.
Honda and Toyota CVTs are very reliable because they have a 'drive' gear which eaaes the torque load from park. It reduces wear and stretch of the metal bands
I had a 2017 Corolla as a 2nd car, and no issues with its CVT. Went from 50k to 165k, sold since didnt need it anymore. Did a drain and fill of trans fluid at 80k. Toyota, Subaru and Honda have CVT and no bad rep.
Mitsubishi had one before all of them and while you don’t see them in the states they’re all over the world in the poorest countries so they have to deal with no maintenance the shittiest roads and often most incompetent drivers and I’ve yet to hear of one documented case of a failed Mitsubishi cvt.
Toyota and Honda are the best CVT Transmissions out there. I still don't trust CVTs, but if I had to choose a vehicle with a CVT it would one of those two cars.
@ you absolutely correct on both statement Honda and Toyota are the better cvts but they are still garbage this why I tell people Honda and Toyota are now doing what Chevy did and are living on legacy
If Nissan fixed their CVT transmissions theyd be ok. Overall a very reliable car but their transmissions keep taking a dump. Their other transmissions that arent cvt like the Frontiers and Titans are tough as rocks.
I have not had a Nissan since they switched from the Datsun brand name in the mid 80s. The 82 Datsun Sentra had the best 4 speed transmission and the world's most forgiving clutch.
One of our children has a 2009 Honda Insight and keep saying they'll replace it when it goes wrong - it just doesn't. Before we went EV we had two Toyotas with CVT - no problems. Are you saying nobody has ever made a bad manual or slushbox transmission?
@@EbenBransome Toyota use a different CVT. No belts, no friction. Honda used to be a good car also. However, now with all this CVT junk it is also going bad. I only would get manual Honda's now. The only good CVT is, just like was mentioned, made by Toyota. More specifically e-CVT.
@ No, we had a Prius as well. A lot of Toyotas outside the US (where I guess you live) use AISIN CVTs which use belts and are reliable. The Prius is what you are thinking of.
The problem is not that it's a CVT, the problem is it's a Jatco CVT engineered with insufficient cooling, paired with too powerful of an engine, and that they declared that there is no official fluid change interval. Their 2017 update resolves the insufficient cooling issue.
Not only too powerful engines, but car models that are TOO heavy. The particular JATCO unit in question was designed for cars weighing no more than 2000 or so lbs, with engines of less than 100bhp. Yet, Nissan installed these in a number of models, ranging in weight from 2700-2800 lbs....to as much as 3600 lbs. As well, this CVT model was even installed in V6 powered cars, that produced OVER TWICE the rated hp (that the CVT was designed for). No wonder they failed all over the place. And the heavier the car model...the more powerful the engine...the shorter the service life before failure. Even Nissan's lightest car, the Versa, was TOO heavy for this CVT. Interestingly enough, this CVT is fine, if used ONLY in cars for which it was designed. The SAME CVT is/was also used in the little Mitsubishi Mirage, which weighs around 2100 lbs...and makes about 78 bhp. They last very well in that car. One owner got around 400,000 miles, with no failures.
I had a 1994 Altima bought new. That car left us stranded 3 times. Sold it off after 140k miles. Never went to a Nissan dealer again. They have been crap much longer than the 2000's.
My 95 i got 20years old in 2015 for 500 dollars made it from 114k to 178k engine and trans where solid. Rust is what killed it but i promise you that yours was a fluke or something went wrong along the way. Scotty Kilmer is right on both accounts 07+ Nissan bad but most before that are good.
@@ronaldtharappel5633 I never had an issue with that and it was old but it could be for other reasons that just nissan . Another scotty saying dont look a gift horse in the mouth i had that car over 3 years with minimal maintenance.
While there were not that many vehicles, I feel it is imperative to point out that the automatic transmission faired a lot better than its cvt counterpart
Maybe their CVTs okay in small cars with small engines. The Mitsubishi Mirage and Chevy Spark both use Jatco (Nissan) CVTs, neither of them have any major issues with the transmission. But I think a more powerful car would destroy the same transmission.
That’s a biased argument. In the case of the Maxima, is it really a sports sedan or is it a GT? Is the V6 a sports engine or an effortless cruising engine. With the Z and the V6 you have a good point.
@paultruesdale7680 It's definitely a cruiser, I argument there, but even in a cruiser you might want to plant your foot now and then, if the road is straight!
😊 Good video, but the volume suddenly drops at 1:43. The dramatic drop in quality, coupled with higher prices, has become a worldwide epidemic in the automotive and appliance industries. Business leaders seem to have forgotten the "law of the harvest" - that we all reap what we sow. I'm so grateful for the consumer feedback websites that educate the public about shoddy products & businesses, and for videos like this one. Thank you!
I have a 2017 Nissan Sentra with 150,000 miles on it with the original CVT. All fluids were changed and I bought the car new with 27 miles on it. No issues with it. (edited) it will be 8 years old come January 2025.
Gots me a 2015 pathfinder, bot new off lot back then ... only 80K miles now ... zero CVT problems but I've always driven like a grandma ... trying to make it last, I did get 60K transmission service ..
We have a 22 frontier with a jatco 9 speed transmission. Servicing this transmission is expensive but Im glad they didnt put cvt in these trucks. Transmission Shifts really smooth and same as the engine no issues at all after 3 years and counting. My previous dodge had a ticking noise after 2 years old…traded that in.
Solid video, it’s too bad they are made so poorly. I bought the first year Rogue for my wife and the CVT had major issues before 5000 miles. It’s was repaired under warranty, but I traded it in before 36k miles. I like the Nissan styling, but the build quality is terrible. I switch to Mazda now and the CX30 and CX5 are really good.
The truth is Cvts are definitely a bad direction , but the real truth is people just don’t know how to maintain/drive their cars or know what a transmission flush is
I have a 2009 Nissan Altima. I purchased the car used with the "Original Transmission" - she was the 2nd owner. I purchased the Altima at 177k miles and the stipulation was that the car is an "as is" purchase and if I have problems - it is on me. I agreed to the purchased and gave her $1500 for it. Now saying all that, I did my research on this trans and heard about the infamous "CVT" and so far I am good. The car has 289k and is still going. I am having other problems outside the trans. But it is still giving me around 25 to 30 miles to the gallon. The only transmission issue was the axels seals. The thing I communicated to my wife and I (who primarily drive the car) not to boost the engine unless it is absolutely necessary and try to keep the RPM's under 3000. (in other words) baby it. In America, babying a car is unheard of. I took my car in for service at the dealer and he stated that this is the 1st CVT he has ever seen with an original trans at 289k. Now tomorrow it might die, but for now I am hoping to hit 300k before I retire it. One other thing - mostly highway miles and regular trans fluid changes.
That's me also. My 240Z lasted for 660-thousand miles. I only abandoned it for parts, when I could not get common repair parts anymore. It was easy to repair, and we put all sorts of "extras" into it, such as electronic ignition. Also, the 280Z engines fit into these, so we did that also, and added the heavy duty drivelines and rear ends. The "cold start" problem with the Mikunis, was easily solved by adding a manual choking system. The original JATCO transmissions were almost bulletproof, and could do 120mph in second gear (verified by me), and did not explode when shifted.
I have a pathfinder with a CVT no major issue so far, but I change the fluid and filter every 30 to 50 thousand miles. I also switched from Nissan non-synthetic CVT fluid to valvoline’s full synthetic CVT fluid.
I bought a 2024 Nissan Versa with a manual transmission last August. Love it so far. GREAT MPG - much better than advertised. Easy to drive, fun to drive, and seems like it will be very reliable with proper maintenance. Handles well on the highway - not a muscle car by any means, but completely adequate. Pretty comfortable ride for a compact economy car. At this point, I would highly recommend it - just do the maintenance. Under $20,000 out the door price with a couple of factory options included. Plus, a dealer provided lifetime engine and drive train warranty at no extra cost.
@@Fred-mp1vf Tony Serra Highland Nissan in Michigan. In my experience, they were a very attentive, but low pressure sales team. They even delivered my F 150 back to my home the next day, so that I could take the new Versa home with me the same day. That was a close to 200 mile round trip for two people. No charge for the delivery.
If this is too long, think of what I went through! There is one Nissan customer who likes their car and thinks I have been treated fairly. The new Versa so many are raving about has the same CVT, go figure. I bought a new 2017 Sentra S. It was $18,640 ($24,000 today) and I financed it at 6.25% for 6 years ($307 per month), but paid it off by adding to the payments in 5 ½. It looks inside like the one here (0:48). I wouldn't trade it for a Versa. I had a 2015 Sentra that looked exactly the same inside; only the outside changed; it takes a key to start. I replaced the AM/FM CD with a CarPlay Head Unit that upgrades it a bit. At 58,000 miles, I took it in as usual for an oil change at Nissan for $9.95; I had no issues with it. It’s not a special, it’s always that price. I was asked if I’d like to drive an Altima for a week while they replaced my CVT, as my warranty was up in a few months (6 years). I immediately took them up on that and asked no questions, I was just thrilled for the offer. I had noticed it would slip slightly when I put it in park if I didn’t use the parking brake over years of time. That’s typically natural for a used car I’d think, but maybe not. I got it back and it drove great. Since I’m an auto detailer, it looks like it did when I bought it so it's now 7 years old, has 70,000 miles, with a transmission that has about 12,000 and looks like it belongs in a showroom. I’m not saying they don’t have a bad reputation, but Nissan gave me a $5,200 CVT for $0 (on the bill), they took care of the TCM and it hadn’t given me any trouble in the first place. Of course, I assume they knew something I didn’t. I did pay $9.95 for the oil change and I got like 6 pages of receipts. I may have paid $40 for transmission fluid, but I don't remember. I think some people ignore maintenance, but I try to be on top of those things. I believe regular oil changes are necessary for these CVTs and transmission fluid every 50,000 or so. It is expensive upfront, but not really over time if you average it out. It's not difficult to do yourself, although not for everyone. The XTronic CVTs Nissan uses are inferior to the Jatco CVTs that are much more reliable and sold in more expensive brands. I don’t know if mine was new or rebuilt, but I’ve had no problems with it and my car has been paid for a year now, and I doubt it will depreciate anymore than it has. The new CVT warranty expired with the car's warranty. At this time, with only brakes, rotors and oil changes, it has cost me about 12.5 cents per mile to drive it and that number gets lower, the more miles I put on it. I intend to ride a motorcycle for short trips that don’t require a car to keep the miles off of it. Since the styles still haven’t changed that much, I see no reason to replace it, as is an asset now, which is rare to say for a car, especially a Nissan bottom-of-the-line model. The headlights are still like glass and the gun metal gray flake paint sparkles like crazy with a good wax! I judge a car by how many are on the road. I see more of them in my model year, but they're hard to tell apart. The earlier versions are fewer, but that is natural for any car. I was behind one identical to mine today and frequently am next to one. Mine looks new; theirs looks 7 years old, but I see some good ones. I'd go back to my 1981 Cougar XR7 if I had the choice, or even further back to the Mark V. You could crawl into the engine bay and do the work yourself with a socket set and a screwdriver. But, I actually love my car and I enjoy driving it. It just feels good and I made a great choice. I paid a little extra for 2 rotors and brakes, but I knew that. I also know they took care of that CVT and it was hassle free and cost me nothing. I’ve learned a few things to add to the longevity of the CVT, if you want it to last. It sounds like a pain in the ass, but only because it is. If you do it as second nature, your Nissan will last longer. I think those that are abused are making the others look bad; they all can't be bad. I was good to mine, so I'm clueless. My Sentra gets about 37 MPG (as much as 41) and goes from 0-60 in about 3 hours and 10 minutes (never measured it). 1) Use your parking brake when you park, then put it in park before you let off the foot brake. If you let off the foot brake first, you wasted an opportunity. Warm the car up until under 1500 RPMs before putting it into D/R, but put on the foot brake, then put into gear, and then release the parking brake (in that order). This will prevent it from “clanking” into gear and grinding the metal over time. It's easier to remember the parking brake is 1st when you park, and last when you go. 2) Do not ever tow anything; the end. A bike rack is okay (if you're not towing it). 3) Do not rev at a green light and gun it to try to outrun someone; you won’t. Don't embarrass yourself, just act like you enjoy starting off slow. 4) On one lane, one direction roads, do not pass with it unless the car in front is going slower than the posted speed. Never pass an 18 wheeler unless you have 2 straight unobstructed miles ahead. It does not down shift like a conventional transmission, therefore you have no power boost at any speed, even if you smash it to the floor. 5) Pretend you are an old senior with nowhere to go to fast. It's better than walking.
What the hell you been smoking Eddie? The Nissan CVT is a good transmission and there is nothing wrong with it. I bought a Altima in 2015 and have driven it daily. The car has approximately 150K miles on it and it has never even been to the shop for any repairs. I change my own engine oil and filter. The biggest problem with these cars is the people that drive them. The transmission is smooth as silk and I have not even changed the transmission fluid in the car. It still can average about 38-40 mpg on a trip. I would much rather buy a foreign car than the junk American car companies are making today. I also own a 2023 model Y LR and it's about the only car I would buy that is made in America. My son in-law bought a Chevrolet 1500 truck a bout a year ago and has had nothing but problems with it since he bough it......
I have a 2017 Nissan Rogue with 105 thousand miles and I am very happy with my CVT transmission. Have had the fluid changed a few times and it's very expensive to change it.
Yeah I was a bit surprised when my parents got their Kia Niro didn't have a CVT, I thought pretty much all hybrids had one. But it's got a regular 6 speed automatic. It's certainly effective, it gets a something like 52 city and 54 highway, and driving it up and down some nice hilly roads and mountainous terrain and it'll still get like 50MPG doing that. They used the conventional 6 speed (like whatever they use on their cars in general); stuck an AWD transfer case on there; and put the electric motor/generator off that where the rear wheels would have hooked up if it was being used for AWD. And to let it run the A/C when the engine's off, the A/C is in the exact position it would be if it was belt driven, they put on a shorter "no A/C" serpentine belt on it, and slapped an electric motor on the end of the A/C compressor where the belt would have gone. It's clever, it's essentially a gas model that they factory converted to hybrid power so there's very few "custom" parts.
Technically not rubber… steel belts in push configuration. And if rubber belts driving a vehicle are your real concern then remember almost every single manufacturer uses rubber timing belts these days
How about a battery-operated car? The real definition of an EV. We already lose 1/3 of our lives due to sleep. Now another 1/3 waiting to charge your car.
They built a throw away car. That would be ok if it was cheap, but it’s expensive. There’s likely is a place for throwaway cars, like throw away TV’s computers, electronics, but they have to be cheap to start with, and that’s where Nissan management messed up, kept the car expensive but built cheap to self destruct. This is the embodiment of planned obsolescence, taken to the extreme, that it has to be hauled to the junk yard for shredding.
Only Nissan i would buy and i did was what is know as the Y62 Patrol with the 5.6 V8 in Australia. People take them right around Australia in hot and rough conditions and they last a long time, so it's tried and tested and it also helps as the Patrol is made in Japan. I wouldn't touch any other Nissan with a 10 foot pole.
Nissans latest cvt is lovely . Sentra sv in red worked out for me and I’d love to get a manual on this chassis …. They need a lil help but can get back on track with this chassis . The sway bar in the rear feels refined
If you want room to work in the engine bay, talk to your congressman. It is because of the laws that cause every auto manufacture to reduce the auto's weight for better gas mileage. That is the reason why the CVT are used, on the most part CVT are lighter then the old automatic transmissions of the past. This is not just Nissan, it's all foreign and domestic manufactures, all their 2024 profit reports show Billions of USD in the red. All cars are getting smaller.
I work on a bunch of different car manufactures stuff. Some makes are miserable in general to work on such as ford. Others are fairly straightforward such as Honda
@@mph5896I love working on mustangs and older trucks before a taillight assembly was 900$. Even love doing a timing job on a 5.4l. Easy to work on, tons of room, good hours for wage, and can build it better than original with mellings high flow oil pump and edlebrock water pump. Coyotes, modular... foxbody's are getting bad as everything is near rotten on them now. But agreed, Honda by far is the easiest car to work on.
@@dootdoot1867 do exhaust manifolds in the rust belt on 3v ford. Or turbo coolant fittings on a 3.5 eco boost. The older ford stuff is fairly straightforward. The newer stuff is tough. And the newest stuff is nearly impossible without dropping out the entire powertrains or jerking cabs. Like the newest stuff, explorer eco boost.
@@jonathangatto because of MPG requirements. We need to roll back all this enviro BS, there's no need for this level of obsession. EVs suck, CVTs suck, let's just move on from this failed experiment.
Try changing a timing chain in a 2009 d22 nissan navara. You have to remove the engine because the timing cover doesn't clear the main front chassis cross member.
If you could buy the parts aftermarket and rebuild the trans yourself? Millions of Nissans would be saved. Its because you are stuck going through Dealerships along with a potential reprogram there. And these dealerships are incentivized to sell you another car, not keep that one on the road. The transmission business model killed their market, not the trans itsself.
I advised my niece to avoid Nissan's like they are radioactive. She purchased a Nissan Rogue.. I drained and filled the CVT with 12 quarts of Nissan CVT fluid, and said "Vaya con Dios".
Let me explain please: Here in the middle east (GCC), Arabs look up to the 3.5 V6 Altima and Maxima as cool as Americans look at the 350Z and G35, and most car enthusiasts worldwide they love to drive manual transmission. In 2004-2006 the middle east had started selling the 3rd Generation Nissan Altima, and a lot of enthusiasts got the 3.5 SE paired with 6-speed Manual and started tuning it and racing it making low 13s at the 1/4 mile with only Bolt ons and a tune. The 3.5 6MT Altima got a good reputation, the good Altima energy in GCC, but comes 2007 with the 4th Generation Altima, now a lot of enthusiasts were willing to get the 4th Gen with 3.5/6MT, only to be surprised by all dealers to refuse selling it, suggesting the CVT only even when car guys wanted the 6MT. A lot of them settled for the CVT, while other who care more about a 3rd pedal got the 2.5 i4 with 6MT. Now I am wondering, why the 4th Gen Altima with 3.5 6MT wasn't available for enthusiasts? Even tho demand was extremely high, that issue sparked a little confusion that left people wondering... Is Nissan suggesting the CVT because it is cheaper to make than the standard transmission? Is it more profitable? Are they purposefully cutting production numbers for the 6MT to use the low sales figure of the 6MT as an excuse to eliminate this option for the 5th Generation?
Nissan switched to the CVT because it couldn't make fuel efficient vehicles with out it. If you look at fuel economy ratings for their vehicles they increased in 2006-2007 when the Altima got the CVT and each generation of CVT "upgrade" gave slightly better fuel economy. They couldn't make better motors more efficient so they went the route of a fragile trans that "should " last to at least 100k and then not be their problem . Instead they got a grenade with a pin pulled out that can blow at anytime. I have seen them with over 200k run well but I have seen many under 100k even in the 20-30k range that needed a trans and that's just unacceptable.
They didn't have to solve their problem by introducing a time bomb transmission. They could have done what Dodge did with their V8s ... just buy some credits from other manufacturers who didn't need them. In the meantime, let engineering work on a reliable solution to the mileage problem.
I've owned a few Nissan trucks. never a single issue. they don't hold value like a Toyota, but they didn't cost Toyota money either. And they'll last just as long. Nissan owners are a big problem nobody talks about. They've killed their brand reputation with finance deals. This brings in people who don't maintain their cars and then Nissan gets the bad rap.
The focus on newer cars by manufacturers has nothing to do with improving quality or reliability. The focus now is on meeting ever more strict CAFE standards. So you get crap like computers, cvt transmissions, and auto engine shut off every time you stop at a light. A little bit of walkback on CAFE standards could go a long way towards alleviating some of this crap.
The average driver does not do the level of maintenance these manufacturers account for. I mean Subaru vehicles are also very reliable if you maintain them meticulously.
@@aaronbryan5095 Mazda has come along way since the 1980s. I had a B2200 and an FC RX7. Both were a POS. 65 mph was top speed in the B2200 automatic, pretty truck but no guts. The RX7 was a Turbo II, while quick (150 mph), the Apex seals on the rotors wouldn't last. Now Mazda is on top of their game.
I’ve learned that you have to service the transmission every 25 to 30,000 miles with fresh fluid in order for the CVT transmission to last. That’s the only way I’ve seen some of these cars reached 150,000 miles. Otherwise, you are correct. These CVT transmissions are utter trash. Nissan should’ve kept traditional transmissions in their vehicles. Not to mention these CVT transmissions are made in China. Instead of purchasing the German version of the same transmission that have less problems.
Just took our 2009 Maxima with 110,000 miles into the trans shop for a service. Pan was clean, fluid was good. The car drives as it should. The only give away that it's not a regular auto is a slight hunting at really low rpm and speed. On a different note, the vacuum operated vent controls like to make a grunting sound (think Elk call) when you first start the car.
Nissan cut their own throat in 2005 when they adopted the Jatco transmissions into their automobiles. And from that time onward, Nissan has been an automobile that informed people stayed far away from. As time went by, Nissan became one of the worse legacy automobiles to purchase. It even surpassed Chrysler as one of the worse cars to buy. Now, Nissan ranks along side Hyundai and Kia as trash vehicles to be avoided like the plegue.
@@zaydyyzzz One issue with Hyundai and Kia are the engines. They are engineered with small oil ports that circulate and lubricate the engine components. If there is poor maintenance by the owner, say waiting a long time to change the oil, those ports will clog up with sludge build up. This will cause major problems within the engine. There are other problems with these brands. I would just steer clear of them. Toyota and Honda are the best brands, so far.
Nonsense, Jatco make regular automatic transmissions along CVT transmissions. Have done for decades. I have a Jatco CVT in my Suzuki crossover, almost 130000 miles. Just change oil once a year or at 25000 miles. Never had a problem with it.
And yet Nissan only sold 600 cars less than Honda last year! 😂😂😂😂😂 Way too many Nissan haters not enough people who actually look up the actual numbers of Nissan sales and their business model! Nissan will be fine it's not the CVT it's people like y'all that just make up lies about how the CVT fails in 2 MI! World-class cars with abnormally high consumer satisfaction ratings you don't get that if your transmissions are failing! Stop spreading misinformation! Nissans are more reliable than any American vehicle being sold today. Also if they were bad vehicles that didn't last they wouldn't be used as fleet vehicles. Seeing how companies need reliable vehicles! Honda sold 4 million cars last year Nissan sold 3.7 million cars last year so if Nissan is failing doesn't that also mean Honda is failing as well! You people always change the goal post!
Wow, this really hits hard. I remember how much I spent fixing that transmission, only to end up practically giving the car away. Seeing them bankrupt won’t make me sad.
I had a 2014 Sentra that has good CVT because the previous owner and I routinely change the CVT fluid. Even when the transmission is good, the software has that janky "shifting simulation". It feels like loose of power while accelerating from 30 mph to 40. Honestly I was expecting it to behave like CVT but it tries to be a traditional automatic. I did my research and drove other Nissan with that CVT, seems like it's intentional than an issue. I sold my 2014 Sentra and bought a 2016 Versa with 5-speed manual. On additional note: I also have a 1993 Nissan Hardbody (D21) truck. I gotta say if you're working on oil change (oil filter placement and angle), starter, alternator, EGR, and coolant hose bypasses. You'll be questioning what kind sadistic engineers at Nissan designed it. It's much harder than it looks.
The government needs to back off and let the customers tell these companies what to build. No one likes dual clutch and CVT transmissions including active fuel management. Splitting hairs for fractions of a mile per gallon. What was wrong with a 1980s four cylinder with a standard transmission for economy. Safety is the only thing we gained on. That should be good enough. Build a simple cheap car that can accept a pioneer head unit for infotainment. Complexity adds to cost pollution and tax on the environment. Batteries are not clean either.
The IAC valve kept failing in mine and would also take out the CPU. A very expensive repair until I swapped in a modified CPU that could deal with ICA valve failure.
The CVT doesn't have a torque converter but a special clutch. The long service intervals did for these CVT gearboxes; they need yearly oil changes. These are so much cheaper than new gearboxes!
I always wondered how the belt actually “gripped” the pulley. Metal on metal just sounds like a terrible idea. Can’t believe that transmission actually was released.
I use a sling across the engine bay to support the power train. Once the sub frame and axles are out you tilt drive train, giving access to the left side mount bolts.
I bought a 2023 Rogue in December 2023 and have only put 4,200 miles on it. Your video reminds me to be glad I am a low mileage driver. During 13 months of ownership, I have come to hate the electronics, the STUPID shift lever design (and how it functions), the constant beeps that tell me something has happened, but I often have no idea what the beeps mean, the STUPID stop/start system, the transmission sometimes "clunks" into "gear," and when I back out of the garage and put it into drive, it always takes a few seconds to engage.....dang, I think I have missed reporting other quirks, but this list has been a good start. I regret buying it!!!!
Great video. Fyi the t in cvt stands for transmission. So when you say "cvt transmission" you're saying "continously variable transmission transmission"
Someone who knows what they're doing can swap that transmission in 4 or 5 hours. The starter is in a crappy location but the intake manifold can be removed in 10 minutes and then the starter is another 5 minutes. You don't even need to drop the subframe on these. Replacing these things was easy money for me and other dealer techs. Crappy cvt put food on my table lol.
in my Nissan qashqai there is Renault engine 1.5 l diesel engine. With a six speed manual gearbox. European made and I have never had an issue with it.Living in. Europe there is no problems with Nissan and automatic transmissions are not popular in Europe .
PIVs are certainly nothing new. I worked on an old Klingelnberg Gear machine with CVT drives. It used Wheatstone bridges for feedback and had tubes in the control.
Eddy everything you just said in the video is correct, as a former ASE Certified auto technician i agree 100% , i owned a nissan in the 90's and that thing was awesome, and then they came out with those awful CVT transmissions and ruined the whole company, nissan was so good in the 90's now my go to brand is Honda or Toyota only, own a toyota now and my motorcycle is a honda, dont want my wife stuck in-the middle of the road driving a car that is known for problem, i was thinking of buying a nissan Rouge back in the day until i started to hear those awful transmissions. My coworkers daughter also had a rouge and they told her the trans was bad and it cost $5000 to repair, she traded it in. Lost my faith in nissans years ago after owning a good one for 17 years that had a traditional transmission that never went bad, thank you for such an incredible video and sharing of yiur knowledge, another topic that needs to be addressed is timing belt vs timing chain, so glad honda car manufacturer went back to chains and the reason why i bought a Toyota is because it uses chains instead of belts that have to be replaced every 90- 100,000 miles
Honda CVTs are much better so it's possible to make one that lasts. Also changing the fluid regularly is a must. Look how brown that fluid was when he opened it. Looked like motor oil.
You just remove the bolt for the trans mount stud & then let the power train down a few inches for easy access to the bolts on the side of the transmission
I had a 2011 Murano. I bought it used with the full knowledge the transmission would eventually die. It made it to about 200,000 km. I sold it to a friend for $1000 and he put a few thousand more to get a rebuilt transmission put in. It's too bad because it was otherwise a pretty good car. The engine (VQ35) was solid.
Companies no longer build cars. They build computers and put a car around them.
I hate all these computer locked systems. Its impossible to work on.
They don’t sell cars anymore, they sell high interest debt 💀
@@InternetUser._ to low credit score people that can't actually afford to buy and maintain a car
They build apologies to environmental wack jobs, not cars for customers. I quit buying vehicle in 1996 and just kept my vehicle of the time. I hate modern vehicles. I am not taking my work home with me. I am messing with modern garbage all night.
i've been an electronic tech for 40 plus years, the more tech in cars the more time i spend on them. but never again will i work on a tesla. i have seen better electrics on an alpha romeo
The sad thing is that when it was obvious that the CVT transmissions were horrible, they just stayed with them until the present. They NEVER addressed the problem!
they are good EXCEPT the cvt
Exactly.
It's hard for big companies to admit mistakes because it means someone has to speak up instead of being a yes man. Not being a yes man gets you fired and admitting mistakes means someone has to get fired, that someone is at the top and doesn't want to fire themselves.
This pretty much sums all car companies . Instead of fixing their crappy components, they release new flashy models every 2-3 years or so.. instead of fixing /improving their current engine/transmission, etc.
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I have had to murano’s ( 2003 - 2020 and 2015 onward) I have never had any problems with the cvt transmission with over 370,000kms on both cars. I even tow a 20 ft ultralight RV with no problems
@Ody-up6kg Right. I was ready to buy a new Rogue, but the poor reviews steered me to the Mazda CX5.
My dummy sister in law had a versa. Many issues along with the cvt. She was blessed by being rear ended and they totaled the car. We tried to beat Honda or Toyota into her brain. A random Friday she was showing us Honda's she's been looking at. Saturday afternoon she came home with a 2012 focus. All Google results tell you that 2012 focus was the worst focus ever built. She came home Sunday complaining that her trans was bucking. You can lead a horse to water.
😂😂 but you can't make her drink the good transmissions news
I used to have a 2014 Focus.. The car itself was good but the transmission was nothing but expensive trouble. I sold it and got a 2021 Versa in its place.
I have the manual transmission 😉 in this one.. Also makes a great anti theft feature.. Not many people nowadays would know how to start it let alone shift it..
That's funny. The focus tranny might be worse than the cvt lol
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Women tend to have 0 common sense that’s why they shouldn’t make big decisions.
Back in the 80's, Nissan had great cars. Young guys loved the 280Z, the 200SX and the hardbody pickups. Their cars were really well made and you could drive them, trouble free, for years and years. The 90's brought out their off roaders like the X-Terra and Pathfinder. In the early 00's it seemed like every other car on the road was a Nissan Altima. Then came Carlos Ghosn and the Jatco CVT. All those loyal customers got so badly burned on those cars and never bought another one. Nissan gained a reputation for bad transmission quality but easy financing. People who couldn't get credit anywhere else could get a Nissan. Now they are the Firestone 500 tire of car brands.
Summed up nicely. ✌️
@@csinalabama73 Nissan also make Nissan Skyline GTR R32-R34 which is more affordable than Nissan GTR R35 now. Yes Carlos Ghosn messed up the R35 and put in a V6 engine which basically just enlarged VQ engine with turbo in it instead of using an RB engine. In between that there’s was a Nissan Skyline 250/350GT which is just an upscaled 350Z and its use VQ35 engine. It’s like using 300ZX engine in a Skyline GTR.
Carlos Chosn think America don’t deserve a good car so he don’t give us a Nissan Teana that Japan have, what we have instead in a cheap feel and ugly looking Nissan Altima and Maxima is no where near as luxurious as a Teana. He’s probably the reason why America doesn’t get Nissan Skyline as well. Also Nissan March K13 would be nice to have for some people especially with 3 cylinder and manual here in America but no he forced American to pay more for a Nissan Versa with 4 cylinder that sound so bad. Oh speaking of which where is Nissan Patrol especially the one with 6 cylinder diesel? Yup we don’t have it either.
If you want to feel like a Japanese Nissan in 2000s you go with an Infiniti they are basically a rebadge Japan only premium Nissan models like Fuga and Cima. Guess what? Carlos Ghosn discontinued Nissan Fuga along with Nissan Cima and Nissan President and Infiniti has lost its identity that some models was a rebadged Mercedes-Benz and its SUV only at this moment
Charles Ghosn replace older beautiful Nissan chime with an ear bleeding Beeps chime I hate it at least Infiniti M35 accessory chime sound nice but I wish it also use in a starting chime too. Nissan definitely lose it charm just like Mitsubishi
That's me also. My 240Z lasted for 660-thousand miles. I only abandoned it for parts, when I could not get repair parts anymore. It was easy to repair, and we put all sorts of "extras" into it, such as electronic ignition. Also, the 280Z engines fit into these, so we did that also, and added the heavy duty drivelines and rear ends. The "cold start" problem with the Mikunis, was easily solved by adding a manual choking system. The JATCO transmissions were almost bulletproof, and could do 120mph in second gear (verified by me), and did not explode when shifted.
Since when Firestone 500 tires gone to shit? Will have to check that out. I know all the Chinese tires sold at Walmart are shit. You'll be lucky to get 10,000 miles out of them. Tires are the most important component of a car after brakes.
Since when do the Japanese refer to Mexican Engineers for quality and durability? Carlos Ghosn. His last name doesn't have enough vowels. LoL. I wonder if he is thinking about his Legacy right about now. The man who designed the worse transmission in automotive history.
What Really Killed Nissan? Renault. Nuff said.
True statement. Carlos Ghosn, aka "The Cost Cutter," made decisions to reduce costs that ultimately affected quality of Nissan vehicles.
Exactly.
Pretty much all French cars are like this - great when new, trash after 3 years, sometimes earlier. Crappy and disposable, built to serve 3 years as rental, then off to scrapyard.
You're American, want a French car experience, but they don't sell them in US/Canada?? No problem, just get a Nissan.
@@vadim6385I've had Renault for years, currently on a 6yo Megane. No problems at all and pushing 100k now.
Which model has a Jatco CVT again?
1. Mazda is better than Nissan
2. Lexus is better than Infiniti
3. Acura NSX and Lexus LC500 and Porsche 911 are better than Nissan GTR
Yup
Renault is what killed Nissan, their Jatco CVT was just another nail
In their coffin ⚰️
yep
Jayco is a caravan, JATCO is the make of transmission
Nissan was already in trouble using cvt transmission ,
And was why they were sold to Renault
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I recently met a guy who has a Subaru Crosstrek with 308,000 miles on it. I asked him about his CVT and if he had and issues and he said, no. BUT he had the CVT fluid changed every 50,000 miles and with Subaru's fluid. Subaru America says it's a sealed system and it never needs changed. Subaru Japan says to change it by 60,000 miles. I recently bought a 2024 Forester Wilderness, I'll be following what Subaru Japan recommends.
Interesting comment! As a Subaru person, I had wondered about the conflicting Recommendations "Never change the fluid " and the 60K interval. Now the question is how much do these CVT fluid changes cost in comparison to an old school 5 speed auto?
They told me that on my Lexus gs350 of trans. I told them change it anyway.
@@HiFiTown The dealership where I bought mine wants $425.00
Subaru Honda and Toyota have the best CVT transmissions they had problems from 2013-2017 on certain models but they extended the warranties on those cars and fixed the bad transmissions. Honda and Subaru CVT's are designed and built in house while Toyota uses the Aisin CVT which is built by Aisin transmissions which Toyota owns. Seems like a common thread here is the best CVT's are in house built.
@mgreg8134 it's not a "who built it" problem. It's a design problem with the jatco CVT. Even if you rebuild one right it will eventually fail the same.
I am a recently retired mechanic with 37 years experience. I tore down one of those JATCO (Japanese Automatic Transmission Company) transmissions, which had failed with under 80,000 miles on it. It was a total nightmare. It was completely filled with metal dust. The belt and pulleys were ground up, the valve bodies were all plugged up. I didn't have to remove it from the car, though I understand it came from a Nissan Juke. I didn't try to rebuild it, I just wanted to see what was inside. It was literally sickening. And it is not just Nissan that uses these JUNK transmissions. Mitsubishi, Mazda, Renault, Audi, Land Rover, Jaguar, Ford, and likely several other vehicles use these things. I worked for a large city government fleet department, and were required to buy only American brand vehicles. Many of those were junk as well, though I never saw one with a JATCO transmission. And it's not just JATCO. They are the worst, but ALL CVTs are JUNK. There was one car in the fleet that stood out as being by far the most reliable vehicle we had. The Ford Crown Vic. We usually retired them at 100,000 miles, especially the ones used as police cars. I have been driving them for 30 years. I currently have a 2006 Mercury Grand Marquis (same as the civilian Crown Vic) with 389,000 miles on it, still on the original engine and transmission, which have never been worked on. These cars use the 4 speed automatic overdrive 4R75E / 4R70W transmission. They can fail, but rarely ever do if properly maintained. They can be easily rebuilt, and rebuilt ones are not expensive. They are simple and easy to replace. The do not use a separate TCM (transmission control module) They have a PCM (powertrain control module) which controls both the engine and transmission. They could fail, but out of thousands of cars over many decades, I have never seen one fail. If you want a reliable and reasonably priced car, get a Ford Crown Vic or Mercury Grand Marquis. They can be kept going forever, and are easily worth replacing the engine/transmission in when they eventually do fail. Stay away from ANYTHING with a CVT.
Tks for your information
They don't make crown Vic's anymore
@@roberthamann8987 No they don't. They don't make cars of ANY kind anymore. Just computerized spy devices on wheels. But there are plenty of used ones out there, and enough parts to keep them going for decades. New cars are a thing of the past.
@@geraldscott4302 stay away from anything gm. I worked on more gm cars than any other manufacturer out there
What car would recommend today?
This is why I went with a Mazda 3. They figured out how to get the same fuel mileage as CVT equipped cars do from other manufacturers, but they use a 6 speed automatic transmission instead. They get the fuel efficiency from using a 14:1 compression ratio with some weird piston techology that prevents engine knock at such high compression ratios for gas. Mazada calls the engine skyactive G.
And you will probably never change the fluid thinking it last lifetime lol
Toyota CVT in town are worst gas mileage than manual transmission. Belt CVT are driven by friction, that's why they're less efficient than gear driven. Toyota do make gear driven Hybrid and they're very efficient.
@@ur1man No such thing. But it is very easy to change the transmission fluid in a Mazda 3 and the dipstick is under the air filter.
@@GF-mf7mlhow??? They make up the friction loss by always using the engine at its most efficient part of the power curve.
just drove 600k on a busy road & noticed Mazdas all having the best time on the road.
To give some points to Nissan, many owners don't know how to open the hood and drive them like they're trying to outrun a tsunami.
How much Nissan is paying you?, owners never had transmission problems before CVT came along, stop blaming the owners, their cars sucks ...sucks
@@armandohernan4610overall, most people just don't understand regular service and definitely don't want to pay for it. Nissan CVTs have improved, but Toyota is so much further ahead.
@@_Lassic_CVT transmissions have NO recommended service. You don’t change the fluid. Or a filter.
@@audionmusic2787 they are good for the "lifetime" of the vehicle. Which most manufacturers are going to say is 100k miles. If you change the fluid in a well made CVT, they can last.
@@audionmusic2787 And anyone stupid enough to NOT service the trans deserves their fate.
I retired about 2010 after 40 years of being a mechanic, and I have 3 Honda Accords 1997 and yes their clutches were not the best in them, but I replaced them with newer up grades, And a seal kit and the engine I just replaced the rubber timing belts, but at least I can still work on them. And they don't have any programing like you were talking about. Your a brave mechanic to work on these newer cars. Good luck,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
The best made cars by every brand in automotive history: 1996 - 2006. Some manufacturers maybe 2010. My buddy has a 2005 GMC Yukon 6.0 liter V-8, all wheel drive with 330,000 miles still used as a daily driver. Only replaced suspension parts and water pump plus alternator. It still has original timing chain. My 1996 BMW 318Ti has 240,000 miles on it and runs great. Replaced starter and alternator and suspension parts. Luckily it is my 2nd car because it took a year to change the starter. Not even the best made American tools could remove the bolts i had to buy a German made E10 socket to get it off. Because BMW put the starter in backwards. Every other part is easy to get to. Best 2Door Hatchback ever made. It has GM's 4L60E auto transmission with an added button that puts the trans into manual sequential shifting. If you don't shift instead of shifting for you BMW cuts off the fuel pump so you don't ruin the transmission. So, I can put it in 3rd gear and drive around no problem starting and staying in 3rd gear. No shifting needed. Its rear wheel drive with traction control along with modified transmission to help you get through snow. I just think it's so cool to use 3rd gear from a stop instead of 1st gear without any strain on engine. But I'm easily amused. lol What wasn't amusing was the bloody starter. I actually took the new starter apart adding better and more grease before installing. 100% Synthetic. Would like to start using Amsoil for oil changes. Yeah, their oil may be able to go 10k miles between oil changes. But, I'm not sold there is an oil filter that can. Peace.
My wife tells me to buy newer car ,I told her I'm keeping my old 95 nissan hardbody truck 2.4 , 2002 Volvo and 2003 v6 mustang, good gas mileage, easy to work on. You have to be rich fix today's cars.
@@EthelbertGill You are so right,,,,,,,,,,
Even with new tech, drive, lane assist, cameras & warnings, accidents went up. Those cars are self distracting & then stick a screen on top of the dash. That's why Nissan & Infiniti can't continue. Those brands are junk.
Keep in mind, Ford has the most recalls out of any auto manufacturer in history currently.
Ok, how many does Toyota and Honda have ?
@preeyakumari-i2q Far less. Ford has 51, Toyota has 13, and Honda has 11.
Ford is a complete disaster right now.
Free recalls vs 6K+ transmission that I pay for? I will take the recalls.
@9ZERO6 Nissan still has one of the best powertrain warranties out there. Toyota and Honda are only 36k, where nissan is 100k.
CVT belongs on golf carts.
Snowmobiles have them too
@@joeyt6547 honestly it makes sense on a snowmobile. Just not on a car.
@@Ziegfried82 snow mobiles kill people so CVT=Death
@@joeyt6547 lawn mowers too.
They absolutely belong on cars they were banned to in F1 also ratio zero has developed a cvt that uses gears so yes cvt’s may have a future but current ones are ass
I love it how we say cars are not as reliable as theybused to be but conplain that the car only went 150k miles before transmission going out. In the 80s, youd be lucky to hit 100k with half the cars out there
Agreed but from 1988 or so and until 2006 or so formost manufacturers car quality greatly increased in many cars could get 200 to 300,000 miles. Some Toyota and Hondas 400 to 500k
Don't bring facts to an emotional argument. Cars today last longer than in almost any era and with inflation adjusted prices are similar in cost and are much safer and more efficient.
@@Daniel_ColavecchioI agree. I have 276k on my 2015 Chrysler 200. Still going strong. Helps having a ZF transmission in it though. Kinda cheating. lol
My 77 Monte Carlo had various problems by 80,000. My 89 Accord was still running well at 200,000 when I got rid of it, 170,000 on my 13 Altima right now.
My family have trucks from 1988, 1992, 1985 all with 350,000 miles or more. Still running Chevy and Ford. A friend had a 4runner from 1983 still running I don't know the mileage but he will go hunting with it driving a few hours out. So I'm sure that about 800,000 miles. I don't know what vehicles you were driving. But we won't buy the new chevys. But will never trade in our old around the ranch haul water trucks ever.
The awful truth is that the automobile was perfected 20 years ago where you can keep that same analog car and drive it for 25+ years if you just did regular maintenances. The problem with this business model is that automakers can't sell new cars for people who already have working cars. So they just sabotage quality to force you to buy new cars every few years like disposable products. Better to save your money and invest for gains.
@@1CommunityNotes1 Agreed! My daughter has a 2002 Suburban (SUV version of your Silverado) with 168K on the odometer. Still runs great. The only repairs have been brake pads, battery & water pump.
This is the most extensive explanation of a Nissan cvt that I’ve ever seen! Great job!!
If they bring back the original nissan hardbody truck with a manual, that'll be enough to bail them out
you are spot on. Had a 93 Hardbody and best vehicle ever owned. Drove it on the beach too much and the saltwater ate it up, but never spend a dime on anyting but tires and batteries
Or a competent Xterra.
Current regulations would make that impossible now wouldn’t it.
@dr.tobiasgoodfellow5174 the government ruins everything they touch and tells the public they did a good job
Emphasis on "IF". And don't you know there will soon not be a single manual transmission offered in any vehicle? A handful of Woke Lesbians have been complaining to all car companies that they "offended" because "Stick Shifts" are too masculine. I know. Sounds like a joke. But it isn't. Every Company would do well to take a new slogan: "We Don't Care You Are Offended". I'm thinking making some T-Shirts would sell like hotcakes. LoL
Still in my 2014 Altima 2.5, I change the CVT fluid with Amsoil CVT fluid and filters every 30k. I'm sitting at 210,000 miles. I drive it easy, I know I'm the minority.
Nope, a first class owner and mechanically sympathetic driver.
@@paultruesdale7680 It takes care of me getting to and from work, so I take care of it.
I am with you all he way: 2013 Altima 170,000 miles.
i don't think you are. Most people who own a nissan sound like you. I think the mechanics just get the minority who don't care about car maintenance.
I have a 2019 Honda Accord EX-L with a CVT transmission. CVT transmission require their fluid to be changed every 50,000 miles, and it is very important to do so! It's approximately $180 to have changed. CVT transmission is fun to drive. They just GO without shifting! It's wild hitting the gas. The car takes off and never really hits a high RPM till you're going ridiculously fast
Nissan did for the CVT what general motors did for the diesel engine. So many people were devastated financially by them, and they won't be trusting them ever again.
Growing up in the 80s and 90s my Parents drove did Mercury/Fords ,my Grandparents did GM but once they retired mainly it was Cadillac. My oldest cousin Godmother bought her a '85 Sentra when she was in College. Toyota/Honda and Nissan back then were known as good vehicles. Over time some family members started buying Nissan/Infiniti's in the 90s and early 2000s. Even neighbors and co workers liked their Nissan products. They were good reliable vehicles. But once the CVT's was placed in every vehicle it was down hill from there. This is nothing new , as I've seen Lawsuits and news articles from the late 2000s up till now. Nissan has refused to do anything about it. But people have continued to buy their products. But now people have truly gotten sick of it. I don't feel bad for Nissan, its their own doing. Recently i was planning to get a Maxima but too many negative reviews of the CVT. Ended up getting something else
Get the government out of the car industry
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A centrally controlled command economy is a hallmark of communism. They won't step back unless we pry our private economy out of their hands.
BINGO 🎉
Too bad our laziness has resulted in the discontinuance of most manual transmissions.
Why? Do you want to drive a Vega or a Pinto?
Original owner of 2016 Maxima SV. I have 167,000 miles. Best car and longest-lasting transmission I ever had (so far), and I'm a 58 year old mechanical engineer (first car was a '76 Cutlass Supreme with 350V8). Fluid changes are important, ALL fluids, not just the CVT. Just saying.
It's just somebody forgot to tell the car salesman that.
Well said, problem is Nissan advertise to change the cvt oil every 80 k km but the safest option is actually 20k km. For those in the know and follow this frequency the transmission will last but the manufacture frequency is a purposeful death sentence.
We have a 2006 Nissan Tiida (I think in the US/Canada its badged as the Avensis) with a CVT trans and 209,500kms on the clock. We are the third owners, no issues at all. This car has been looked after well, with regular services and garaged. For the price we got it and the high milage, we will keep it for 3 years and then get another vehicle...maybe another Nissan.
With CVT, I think its the rough driving style that puts a lot of stress on the transmission steel belts that wears them down faster. The ones that exploded internally are most probably where the driver floored it like when they were trying to come out of a stuck situation. I say its the drivers to blame.🐞
@mohabatkhanmalak1161 @mohabatkhanmalak1161 yes, once the CVT pulley gets scored, it's a never-ending spiral to disaster. Also cvt fluid changes every 40000 miles or so are important, along with the 2 CVT filters; there's a strainer in the pan and a pleated filter in a side housing.
@@mohabatkhanmalak1161 The Tiida is a Versa in the USA, the Avensis is a British Toyota, just trying to help you out.
When you split that case, you can tell that cvt oil was cooked.
Probably never been changed, any engine, gearbox would look the same. The CVT if maintained and driven accordingly is has reliable as any other transmission.
But I would like to see them be replaced with a regular automatic.
Yeah, I noticed that too. Changing the atf 120k miles earlier would have saved it.
Also the new pathfinder went back to a automatic transmission as of 2024 model year. They no longer put CVT in them due to complaints of the cvt issues.
Cars like the Pathfimder should never really have CVTs because of their weight and engine torque output exceeding what the best CVT could handle.
2021 was the year they switched to the automatic transmission on the pathfinder
2022 Pathfinder went with the frontier and Titan 9 speed. Much better vehicle now. Frontiers are as good if not better than Tacoma.
Took them long enough.
@@stanpeterson8273 actually 2022
My daughter in law has a V-6 Pathfinder with a CVT, we have had no issues with the transmission at all. It is 7 years old, my son understands the issues with the CVT and they drive it accordingly and flushes it every two years.
It is owner ignorance that really causes issues with them.
The real question is how many miles are on the car? The age isn't particularly relevant
wait !
they are horrid and unreliable. the belt actually pushes not pulls onto the drive train and gets whiplash and disintegrates.
That and hard acceleration will kill a CVT. Change fluid every 35,000mi to get maximum life.
@@chrisbarnes2823 I prefer electric car transmissions. Even less gears than a cvt 😆
@ yes I agree, we have 2025 Honda Civic Hybrid sports coupe with that setup.
Go back to regular 4 or 5 speed Automatic transmissions.
100%
Yeah I think most people would be fine with losing 2-3 MPG in exchange for having a better driving experience and a far cheaper transmission.
Economies of scale, cvts are dirt cheap to mass manufacture especially the crappy jatco ones. So they ain't go nowhere
The owner of a transmission shop told me 12 yrs ago never to buy a CVT equipped car, no matter what brand.
i am driving a toyota prius cvt with 600,000 km, still driving great.
@@danlee8640 you got lucky, that's nice.
The cvts on hybrids work differently than non hybrids.
@@danlee8640they're gear driven they don't even have belt.
Honda and Toyota CVTs are very reliable because they have a 'drive' gear which eaaes the torque load from park. It reduces wear and stretch of the metal bands
I had a 2017 Corolla as a 2nd car, and no issues with its CVT. Went from 50k to 165k, sold since didnt need it anymore. Did a drain and fill of trans fluid at 80k. Toyota, Subaru and Honda have CVT and no bad rep.
AISIN CVTs and JATCO CVTs are not even remotely the same quality.
Mitsubishi had one before all of them and while you don’t see them in the states they’re all over the world in the poorest countries so they have to deal with no maintenance the shittiest roads and often most incompetent drivers and I’ve yet to hear of one documented case of a failed Mitsubishi cvt.
@@ellomirzaI have a mirage and my CVT is starting to give out at 119k miles
Toyota and Honda are the best CVT Transmissions out there. I still don't trust CVTs, but if I had to choose a vehicle with a CVT it would one of those two cars.
@ you absolutely correct on both statement Honda and Toyota are the better cvts but they are still garbage this why I tell people Honda and Toyota are now doing what Chevy did and are living on legacy
If Nissan fixed their CVT transmissions theyd be ok. Overall a very reliable car but their transmissions keep taking a dump. Their other transmissions that arent cvt like the Frontiers and Titans are tough as rocks.
I have not had a Nissan since they switched from the Datsun brand name in the mid 80s.
The 82 Datsun Sentra had the best 4 speed transmission and the world's most forgiving clutch.
nissan sentra was a tinny light weight econobox. Right up to early 90s. Best thing about Nissan. Now Gone.
Good grief, you’ve missed out on loads of great vehicles since then.
@paultruesdale7680 I wouldn't say I missed out. I became a Honda devotee. Have not been disappointed with them.
@@ThewTheKooky so you've never seen honda's glorious 1.5L turbo crap itself before?
@aaronbryan5095 nope. Not saying it doesn't. Just it hasn't been my experience in the 4 Hondas I've had since that Datsun.
CVT should be banned
Replaced, not banned.
One of our children has a 2009 Honda Insight and keep saying they'll replace it when it goes wrong - it just doesn't.
Before we went EV we had two Toyotas with CVT - no problems.
Are you saying nobody has ever made a bad manual or slushbox transmission?
Most of the Japanese cars use CVT transmission like Honda, Toyota, Mitsubishi, Subaru and of course, Nissan.
@@EbenBransome
Toyota use a different CVT. No belts, no friction. Honda used to be a good car also. However, now with all this CVT junk it is also going bad. I only would get manual Honda's now. The only good CVT is, just like was mentioned, made by Toyota. More specifically e-CVT.
@ No, we had a Prius as well. A lot of Toyotas outside the US (where I guess you live) use AISIN CVTs which use belts and are reliable. The Prius is what you are thinking of.
The problem is not that it's a CVT, the problem is it's a Jatco CVT engineered with insufficient cooling, paired with too powerful of an engine, and that they declared that there is no official fluid change interval. Their 2017 update resolves the insufficient cooling issue.
Not only too powerful engines, but car models that are TOO heavy. The particular JATCO unit in question was designed for cars weighing no more than 2000 or so lbs, with engines of less than 100bhp. Yet, Nissan installed these in a number of models, ranging in weight from 2700-2800 lbs....to as much as 3600 lbs. As well, this CVT model was even installed in V6 powered cars, that produced OVER TWICE the rated hp (that the CVT was designed for). No wonder they failed all over the place. And the heavier the car model...the more powerful the engine...the shorter the service life before failure. Even Nissan's lightest car, the Versa, was TOO heavy for this CVT.
Interestingly enough, this CVT is fine, if used ONLY in cars for which it was designed. The SAME CVT is/was also used in the little Mitsubishi Mirage, which weighs around 2100 lbs...and makes about 78 bhp. They last very well in that car. One owner got around 400,000 miles, with no failures.
I had a 1994 Altima bought new. That car left us stranded 3 times. Sold it off after 140k miles. Never went to a Nissan dealer again. They have been crap much longer than the 2000's.
My 95 i got 20years old in 2015 for 500 dollars made it from 114k to 178k engine and trans where solid. Rust is what killed it but i promise you that yours was a fluke or something went wrong along the way. Scotty Kilmer is right on both accounts 07+ Nissan bad but most before that are good.
@b469b ours had electrical problems
@@ronaldtharappel5633 I never had an issue with that and it was old but it could be for other reasons that just nissan . Another scotty saying dont look a gift horse in the mouth i had that car over 3 years with minimal maintenance.
While there were not that many vehicles, I feel it is imperative to point out that the automatic transmission faired a lot better than its cvt counterpart
Maybe their CVTs okay in small cars with small engines. The Mitsubishi Mirage and Chevy Spark both use Jatco (Nissan) CVTs, neither of them have any major issues with the transmission.
But I think a more powerful car would destroy the same transmission.
Nissan X trail are nightmare to own. AWD and CVT even Honda CRV can't make it right.
Nissan fit the 3.5 liter V6 with a CVT.
Driven responsibility and maintained properly should last as long as a regular automatic.
@paultruesdale7680 Lol, what is the use of a V6 driven responsibly?! 😅
That’s a biased argument.
In the case of the Maxima, is it really a sports sedan or is it a GT?
Is the V6 a sports engine or an effortless cruising engine.
With the Z and the V6 you have a good point.
@paultruesdale7680 It's definitely a cruiser, I argument there, but even in a cruiser you might want to plant your foot now and then, if the road is straight!
Nissan Versa 90k miles. Man. Trans. No CVT nor auto. Simple and no problems.
😊 Good video, but the volume suddenly drops at 1:43. The dramatic drop in quality, coupled with higher prices, has become a worldwide epidemic in the automotive and appliance industries. Business leaders seem to have forgotten the "law of the harvest" - that we all reap what we sow. I'm so grateful for the consumer feedback websites that educate the public about shoddy products & businesses, and for videos like this one. Thank you!
I have a 2017 Nissan Sentra with 150,000 miles on it with the original CVT. All fluids were changed and I bought the car new with 27 miles on it. No issues with it. (edited) it will be 8 years old come January 2025.
The CVT did a lot better in lighter cars like Sentra and Versa but your proper maintenance was a big factor.
Most people who buy these things don't know that the transmission fluid needs to be changed every 60k miles
@@RefinedRags Mine didn't make it to the 2nd TF Change
Gots me a 2015 pathfinder, bot new off lot back then ... only 80K miles now ... zero CVT problems but I've always driven like a grandma ... trying to make it last, I did get 60K transmission service ..
They last if you take good care of them, the more you change fluids the better
We have a 22 frontier with a jatco 9 speed transmission. Servicing this transmission is expensive but Im glad they didnt put cvt in these trucks. Transmission Shifts really smooth and same as the engine no issues at all after 3 years and counting. My previous dodge had a ticking noise after 2 years old…traded that in.
Solid video, it’s too bad they are made so poorly. I bought the first year Rogue for my wife and the CVT had major issues before 5000 miles. It’s was repaired under warranty, but I traded it in before 36k miles. I like the Nissan styling, but the build quality is terrible. I switch to Mazda now and the CX30 and CX5 are really good.
A transmission fluid exchange at the dealership is about $329.
The truth is Cvts are definitely a bad direction , but the real truth is people just don’t know how to maintain/drive their cars or know what a transmission flush is
I have a 2009 Nissan Altima. I purchased the car used with the "Original Transmission" - she was the 2nd owner. I purchased the Altima at 177k miles and the stipulation was that the car is an "as is" purchase and if I have problems - it is on me. I agreed to the purchased and gave her $1500 for it. Now saying all that, I did my research on this trans and heard about the infamous "CVT" and so far I am good. The car has 289k and is still going. I am having other problems outside the trans. But it is still giving me around 25 to 30 miles to the gallon. The only transmission issue was the axels seals. The thing I communicated to my wife and I (who primarily drive the car) not to boost the engine unless it is absolutely necessary and try to keep the RPM's under 3000. (in other words) baby it. In America, babying a car is unheard of. I took my car in for service at the dealer and he stated that this is the 1st CVT he has ever seen with an original trans at 289k. Now tomorrow it might die, but for now I am hoping to hit 300k before I retire it. One other thing - mostly highway miles and regular trans fluid changes.
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That's me also. My 240Z lasted for 660-thousand miles. I only abandoned it for parts, when I could not get common repair parts anymore. It was easy to repair, and we put all sorts of "extras" into it, such as electronic ignition. Also, the 280Z engines fit into these, so we did that also, and added the heavy duty drivelines and rear ends. The "cold start" problem with the Mikunis, was easily solved by adding a manual choking system. The original JATCO transmissions were almost bulletproof, and could do 120mph in second gear (verified by me), and did not explode when shifted.
Honda has to fire a bunch of Nissan employees and top management and CEOs. The company culture is extremely toxic.
I have a pathfinder with a CVT no major issue so far, but I change the fluid and filter every 30 to 50 thousand miles. I also switched from Nissan non-synthetic CVT fluid to valvoline’s full synthetic CVT fluid.
I bought a 2024 Nissan Versa with a manual transmission last August. Love it so far. GREAT MPG - much better than advertised. Easy to drive, fun to drive, and seems like it will be very reliable with proper maintenance. Handles well on the highway - not a muscle car by any means, but completely adequate. Pretty comfortable ride for a compact economy car. At this point, I would highly recommend it - just do the maintenance. Under $20,000 out the door price with a couple of factory options included. Plus, a dealer provided lifetime engine and drive train warranty at no extra cost.
Who was the dealer?
What part of hard to work on did you not understand?
@@Fred-mp1vf Tony Serra Highland Nissan in Michigan. In my experience, they were a very attentive, but low pressure sales team. They even delivered my F 150 back to my home the next day, so that I could take the new Versa home with me the same day. That was a close to 200 mile round trip for two people. No charge for the delivery.
If this is too long, think of what I went through! There is one Nissan customer who likes their car and thinks I have been treated fairly. The new Versa so many are raving about has the same CVT, go figure. I bought a new 2017 Sentra S. It was $18,640 ($24,000 today) and I financed it at 6.25% for 6 years ($307 per month), but paid it off by adding to the payments in 5 ½. It looks inside like the one here (0:48). I wouldn't trade it for a Versa. I had a 2015 Sentra that looked exactly the same inside; only the outside changed; it takes a key to start. I replaced the AM/FM CD with a CarPlay Head Unit that upgrades it a bit. At 58,000 miles, I took it in as usual for an oil change at Nissan for $9.95; I had no issues with it. It’s not a special, it’s always that price. I was asked if I’d like to drive an Altima for a week while they replaced my CVT, as my warranty was up in a few months (6 years). I immediately took them up on that and asked no questions, I was just thrilled for the offer.
I had noticed it would slip slightly when I put it in park if I didn’t use the parking brake over years of time. That’s typically natural for a used car I’d think, but maybe not. I got it back and it drove great. Since I’m an auto detailer, it looks like it did when I bought it so it's now 7 years old, has 70,000 miles, with a transmission that has about 12,000 and looks like it belongs in a showroom. I’m not saying they don’t have a bad reputation, but Nissan gave me a $5,200 CVT for $0 (on the bill), they took care of the TCM and it hadn’t given me any trouble in the first place. Of course, I assume they knew something I didn’t. I did pay $9.95 for the oil change and I got like 6 pages of receipts. I may have paid $40 for transmission fluid, but I don't remember. I think some people ignore maintenance, but I try to be on top of those things. I believe regular oil changes are necessary for these CVTs and transmission fluid every 50,000 or so. It is expensive upfront, but not really over time if you average it out. It's not difficult to do yourself, although not for everyone.
The XTronic CVTs Nissan uses are inferior to the Jatco CVTs that are much more reliable and sold in more expensive brands. I don’t know if mine was new or rebuilt, but I’ve had no problems with it and my car has been paid for a year now, and I doubt it will depreciate anymore than it has. The new CVT warranty expired with the car's warranty. At this time, with only brakes, rotors and oil changes, it has cost me about 12.5 cents per mile to drive it and that number gets lower, the more miles I put on it. I intend to ride a motorcycle for short trips that don’t require a car to keep the miles off of it. Since the styles still haven’t changed that much, I see no reason to replace it, as is an asset now, which is rare to say for a car, especially a Nissan bottom-of-the-line model. The headlights are still like glass and the gun metal gray flake paint sparkles like crazy with a good wax!
I judge a car by how many are on the road. I see more of them in my model year, but they're hard to tell apart. The earlier versions are fewer, but that is natural for any car. I was behind one identical to mine today and frequently am next to one. Mine looks new; theirs looks 7 years old, but I see some good ones. I'd go back to my 1981 Cougar XR7 if I had the choice, or even further back to the Mark V. You could crawl into the engine bay and do the work yourself with a socket set and a screwdriver. But, I actually love my car and I enjoy driving it. It just feels good and I made a great choice. I paid a little extra for 2 rotors and brakes, but I knew that. I also know they took care of that CVT and it was hassle free and cost me nothing.
I’ve learned a few things to add to the longevity of the CVT, if you want it to last. It sounds like a pain in the ass, but only because it is. If you do it as second nature, your Nissan will last longer. I think those that are abused are making the others look bad; they all can't be bad. I was good to mine, so I'm clueless. My Sentra gets about 37 MPG (as much as 41) and goes from 0-60 in about 3 hours and 10 minutes (never measured it).
1) Use your parking brake when you park, then put it in park before you let off the foot brake. If you let off the foot brake first, you wasted an opportunity. Warm the car up until under 1500 RPMs before putting it into D/R, but put on the foot brake, then put into gear, and then release the parking brake (in that order). This will prevent it from “clanking” into gear and grinding the metal over time. It's easier to remember the parking brake is 1st when you park, and last when you go.
2) Do not ever tow anything; the end. A bike rack is okay (if you're not towing it).
3) Do not rev at a green light and gun it to try to outrun someone; you won’t. Don't embarrass yourself, just act like you enjoy starting off slow.
4) On one lane, one direction roads, do not pass with it unless the car in front is going slower than the posted speed. Never pass an 18 wheeler unless you have 2 straight unobstructed miles ahead. It does not down shift like a conventional transmission, therefore you have no power boost at any speed, even if you smash it to the floor.
5) Pretend you are an old senior with nowhere to go to fast. It's better than walking.
What the hell you been smoking Eddie? The Nissan CVT is a good transmission and there is nothing wrong with it. I bought a Altima in 2015 and have driven it daily. The car has approximately 150K miles on it and it has never even been to the shop for any repairs. I change my own engine oil and filter. The biggest problem with these cars is the people that drive them. The transmission is smooth as silk and I have not even changed the transmission fluid in the car. It still can average about 38-40 mpg on a trip. I would much rather buy a foreign car than the junk American car companies are making today. I also own a 2023 model Y LR and it's about the only car I would buy that is made in America. My son in-law bought a Chevrolet 1500 truck a bout a year ago and has had nothing but problems with it since he bough it......
I have a 2017 Nissan Rogue with 105 thousand miles and I am very happy with my CVT transmission. Have had the fluid changed a few times and it's very expensive to change it.
2013 Altima with 170,000 miles, present and accounted for.
Eddie's the most personable mechanic on RUclips
Only way i would buy a Nissan is with a five speed standard transmission i think there 4 cylinder engines are still fair
I haven't got that CVT 💩in mine, I have the 1.5dci with a 6 speed manual both are great,
Used to have a 13 sentra S with the manual and it was nice but nothing breathtaking, easy to learn on though, clutch practically drove itself
Yeah I was a bit surprised when my parents got their Kia Niro didn't have a CVT, I thought pretty much all hybrids had one. But it's got a regular 6 speed automatic. It's certainly effective, it gets a something like 52 city and 54 highway, and driving it up and down some nice hilly roads and mountainous terrain and it'll still get like 50MPG doing that. They used the conventional 6 speed (like whatever they use on their cars in general); stuck an AWD transfer case on there; and put the electric motor/generator off that where the rear wheels would have hooked up if it was being used for AWD. And to let it run the A/C when the engine's off, the A/C is in the exact position it would be if it was belt driven, they put on a shorter "no A/C" serpentine belt on it, and slapped an electric motor on the end of the A/C compressor where the belt would have gone. It's clever, it's essentially a gas model that they factory converted to hybrid power so there's very few "custom" parts.
I will never buy another rubber band powered car again. I will never buy another Nissan again. 118k miles.
Technically not rubber… steel belts in push configuration. And if rubber belts driving a vehicle are your real concern then remember almost every single manufacturer uses rubber timing belts these days
How about a battery-operated car? The real definition of an EV. We already lose 1/3 of our lives due to sleep. Now another 1/3 waiting to charge your car.
@@johannjohann6523 We charge ours *while* we are asleep. On the road 20-80% is half an hour. I fail to see your point.
But they're probably better than Kias? Either that, or Volkswagen. One sh*t to another haha.
Maybe I should be happy I drive an old Camry.
@@johannjohann6523Nah, when winter hits and the powers out, you're stranded.
We have a 2009 altima, so far so good. You do have to check your levels and use proper fluids.
They built a throw away car. That would be ok if it was cheap, but it’s expensive. There’s likely is a place for throwaway cars, like throw away TV’s computers, electronics, but they have to be cheap to start with, and that’s where Nissan management messed up, kept the car expensive but built cheap to self destruct.
This is the embodiment of planned obsolescence, taken to the extreme, that it has to be hauled to the junk yard for shredding.
Only Nissan i would buy and i did was what is know as the Y62 Patrol with the 5.6 V8 in Australia. People take them right around Australia in hot and rough conditions and they last a long time, so it's tried and tested and it also helps as the Patrol is made in Japan. I wouldn't touch any other Nissan with a 10 foot pole.
Hi Eddie, how are their trucks like Frontier and Titan?
Those ones don't use cvts, they use regular automatics. A cvt on a pick up will blow out before it even leaves the factory
Nissans latest cvt is lovely . Sentra sv in red worked out for me and I’d love to get a manual on this chassis …. They need a lil help but can get back on track with this chassis . The sway bar in the rear feels refined
If you want room to work in the engine bay, talk to your congressman. It is because of the laws that cause every auto manufacture to reduce the auto's weight for better gas mileage. That is the reason why the CVT are used, on the most part CVT are lighter then the old automatic transmissions of the past. This is not just Nissan, it's all foreign and domestic manufactures, all their 2024 profit reports show Billions of USD in the red. All cars are getting smaller.
Toyota uses CVT transmissions too. Most Japanese Manufacturers are going to this style of transmission. I do not know why!?!
I work on a bunch of different car manufactures stuff. Some makes are miserable in general to work on such as ford. Others are fairly straightforward such as Honda
@@mph5896I love working on mustangs and older trucks before a taillight assembly was 900$. Even love doing a timing job on a 5.4l. Easy to work on, tons of room, good hours for wage, and can build it better than original with mellings high flow oil pump and edlebrock water pump. Coyotes, modular... foxbody's are getting bad as everything is near rotten on them now. But agreed, Honda by far is the easiest car to work on.
@@dootdoot1867 do exhaust manifolds in the rust belt on 3v ford. Or turbo coolant fittings on a 3.5 eco boost. The older ford stuff is fairly straightforward. The newer stuff is tough. And the newest stuff is nearly impossible without dropping out the entire powertrains or jerking cabs. Like the newest stuff, explorer eco boost.
@@jonathangatto because of MPG requirements. We need to roll back all this enviro BS, there's no need for this level of obsession. EVs suck, CVTs suck, let's just move on from this failed experiment.
Try changing a timing chain in a 2009 d22 nissan navara. You have to remove the engine because the timing cover doesn't clear the main front chassis cross member.
That sounds like Brilliant Nissan Engineering Indeed. So is a bicycle chain sturdier than the timing chain you replaced?
If you could buy the parts aftermarket and rebuild the trans yourself? Millions of Nissans would be saved. Its because you are stuck going through Dealerships along with a potential reprogram there. And these dealerships are incentivized to sell you another car, not keep that one on the road. The transmission business model killed their market, not the trans itsself.
Lol. As of people would make kits for these garbage pails.
This is the best video I've ever seen on this issue.
I advised my niece to avoid Nissan's like they are radioactive. She purchased a Nissan Rogue.. I drained and filled the CVT with 12 quarts of Nissan CVT fluid, and said "Vaya con Dios".
Let me explain please:
Here in the middle east (GCC), Arabs look up to the 3.5 V6 Altima and Maxima as cool as Americans look at the 350Z and G35, and most car enthusiasts worldwide they love to drive manual transmission.
In 2004-2006 the middle east had started selling the 3rd Generation Nissan Altima, and a lot of enthusiasts got the 3.5 SE paired with 6-speed Manual and started tuning it and racing it making low 13s at the 1/4 mile with only Bolt ons and a tune.
The 3.5 6MT Altima got a good reputation, the good Altima energy in GCC, but comes 2007 with the 4th Generation Altima, now a lot of enthusiasts were willing to get the 4th Gen with 3.5/6MT, only to be surprised by all dealers to refuse selling it, suggesting the CVT only even when car guys wanted the 6MT.
A lot of them settled for the CVT, while other who care more about a 3rd pedal got the 2.5 i4 with 6MT.
Now I am wondering, why the 4th Gen Altima with 3.5 6MT wasn't available for enthusiasts? Even tho demand was extremely high, that issue sparked a little confusion that left people wondering... Is Nissan suggesting the CVT because it is cheaper to make than the standard transmission? Is it more profitable? Are they purposefully cutting production numbers for the 6MT to use the low sales figure of the 6MT as an excuse to eliminate this option for the 5th Generation?
Nissan switched to the CVT because it couldn't make fuel efficient vehicles with out it. If you look at fuel economy ratings for their vehicles they increased in 2006-2007 when the Altima got the CVT and each generation of CVT "upgrade" gave slightly better fuel economy. They couldn't make better motors more efficient so they went the route of a fragile trans that "should " last to at least 100k and then not be their problem . Instead they got a grenade with a pin pulled out that can blow at anytime. I have seen them with over 200k run well but I have seen many under 100k even in the 20-30k range that needed a trans and that's just unacceptable.
They didn't have to solve their problem by introducing a time bomb transmission. They could have done what Dodge did with their V8s ... just buy some credits from other manufacturers who didn't need them. In the meantime, let engineering work on a reliable solution to the mileage problem.
I've owned a few Nissan trucks. never a single issue. they don't hold value like a Toyota, but they didn't cost Toyota money either. And they'll last just as long. Nissan owners are a big problem nobody talks about. They've killed their brand reputation with finance deals. This brings in people who don't maintain their cars and then Nissan gets the bad rap.
The focus on newer cars by manufacturers has nothing to do with improving quality or reliability. The focus now is on meeting ever more strict CAFE standards. So you get crap like computers, cvt transmissions, and auto engine shut off every time you stop at a light. A little bit of walkback on CAFE standards could go a long way towards alleviating some of this crap.
So lack of maintenance killed it.
The average driver does not do the level of maintenance these manufacturers account for. I mean Subaru vehicles are also very reliable if you maintain them meticulously.
These things cannot handle abuse and you cannot miss a single interval. Compare that with other designs. These things clearly are built poorly.
@@humansvd3269 If the fluid needs to be changed and you don't do it, it's a owner issue. Stop being cheap or get your hands dirty and do it yourself..
@ur1man Another normie who cannot accept the fact these things are made to a low tolerance.
@ur1man Another person who cannot accept the fact these things have a high failure rate compared to other brands.
I think you need a boot tray to put those leaky transmissions on. Less mess.
IMO Mazda is building the best bang for buck today..
But too many people in the US seem to be too blind to realize that.
@@aaronbryan5095 Mazda has come along way since the 1980s. I had a B2200 and an FC RX7. Both were a POS. 65 mph was top speed in the B2200 automatic, pretty truck but no guts. The RX7 was a Turbo II, while quick (150 mph), the Apex seals on the rotors wouldn't last. Now Mazda is on top of their game.
HOLY COW 0:53 That is towers shopping center! I live here in Roanoke!
I’ve learned that you have to service the transmission every 25 to 30,000 miles with fresh fluid in order for the CVT transmission to last. That’s the only way I’ve seen some of these cars reached 150,000 miles. Otherwise, you are correct. These CVT transmissions are utter trash. Nissan should’ve kept traditional transmissions in their vehicles. Not to mention these CVT transmissions are made in China. Instead of purchasing the German version of the same transmission that have less problems.
Made in China vs. Germany has nothing to do with it. Pls provide sources for your statement.
Just took our 2009 Maxima with 110,000 miles into the trans shop for a service. Pan was clean, fluid was good. The car drives as it should. The only give away that it's not a regular auto is a slight hunting at really low rpm and speed. On a different note, the vacuum operated vent controls like to make a grunting sound (think Elk call) when you first start the car.
CVT killed Nissan...3 cylinders turbo/CVT it's a poor mix (Rogue/X Trail). What about Maxima, a sport sedan CVT. Pathfinder a SUV CVT.
Wrong. Since 2022 Pathfinder switched to a Regular 9 speed automatic. It is an excellent SUV.
@dimitrisk2705 yes I know, the last Pathfinder have a CVT. When you bought a bad CVT you never buy a other one. You look for a other brand.
Pathfinders are a pile of shit
That’s one of the biggest mistakes Honda could make is buying up Nissan
@21halvie Yeah. I heard folks say that Honda will bring up the quality of
Nissan, Hmmm, what about Boeing?
Nissan cut their own throat in 2005 when they adopted the Jatco transmissions into their automobiles. And from that time onward, Nissan has been an automobile that informed people stayed far away from. As time went by, Nissan became one of the worse legacy automobiles to purchase. It even surpassed Chrysler as one of the worse cars to buy. Now, Nissan ranks along side Hyundai and Kia as trash vehicles to be avoided like the plegue.
I thought Kia/Hyundai were good cars now though..
@@zaydyyzzz One issue with Hyundai and Kia are the engines. They are engineered with small oil ports that circulate and lubricate the engine components. If there is poor maintenance by the owner, say waiting a long time to change the oil, those ports will clog up with sludge build up. This will cause major problems within the engine. There are other problems with these brands. I would just steer clear of them. Toyota and Honda are the best brands, so far.
Nonsense, Jatco make regular automatic transmissions along CVT transmissions. Have done for decades.
I have a Jatco CVT in my Suzuki crossover, almost 130000 miles.
Just change oil once a year or at 25000 miles. Never had a problem with it.
Nissan is below kia . Honestly i'd even buy a Mitsubishi before a Nissan.
And yet Nissan only sold 600 cars less than Honda last year! 😂😂😂😂😂 Way too many Nissan haters not enough people who actually look up the actual numbers of Nissan sales and their business model! Nissan will be fine it's not the CVT it's people like y'all that just make up lies about how the CVT fails in 2 MI! World-class cars with abnormally high consumer satisfaction ratings you don't get that if your transmissions are failing! Stop spreading misinformation! Nissans are more reliable than any American vehicle being sold today. Also if they were bad vehicles that didn't last they wouldn't be used as fleet vehicles. Seeing how companies need reliable vehicles! Honda sold 4 million cars last year Nissan sold 3.7 million cars last year so if Nissan is failing doesn't that also mean Honda is failing as well! You people always change the goal post!
Wow, this really hits hard. I remember how much I spent fixing that transmission, only to end up practically giving the car away. Seeing them bankrupt won’t make me sad.
I had a 2014 Sentra that has good CVT because the previous owner and I routinely change the CVT fluid. Even when the transmission is good, the software has that janky "shifting simulation". It feels like loose of power while accelerating from 30 mph to 40. Honestly I was expecting it to behave like CVT but it tries to be a traditional automatic. I did my research and drove other Nissan with that CVT, seems like it's intentional than an issue.
I sold my 2014 Sentra and bought a 2016 Versa with 5-speed manual.
On additional note: I also have a 1993 Nissan Hardbody (D21) truck. I gotta say if you're working on oil change (oil filter placement and angle), starter, alternator, EGR, and coolant hose bypasses. You'll be questioning what kind sadistic engineers at Nissan designed it. It's much harder than it looks.
The government needs to back off and let the customers tell these companies what to build. No one likes dual clutch and CVT transmissions including active fuel management. Splitting hairs for fractions of a mile per gallon. What was wrong with a 1980s four cylinder with a standard transmission for economy. Safety is the only thing we gained on. That should be good enough. Build a simple cheap car that can accept a pioneer head unit for infotainment. Complexity adds to cost pollution and tax on the environment. Batteries are not clean either.
1:12... Yeah. Ok. 😂😂🤣
True I still see old altimas on the road.
My 2001 Max GLE was the really deal.. Held me down for 14+ years. The only issue was the alternator. Was really hard parting ways with that car 😢
The IAC valve kept failing in mine and would also take out the CPU. A very expensive repair until I swapped in a modified CPU that could deal with ICA valve failure.
The CVT doesn't have a torque converter but a special clutch. The long service intervals did for these CVT gearboxes; they need yearly oil changes. These are so much cheaper than new gearboxes!
I always wondered how the belt actually “gripped” the pulley.
Metal on metal just sounds like a terrible idea. Can’t believe that transmission actually was released.
I use a sling across the engine bay to support the power train. Once the sub frame and axles are out you tilt drive train, giving access to the left side mount bolts.
Thank you Eddie. Great report and work. Poor Nissan.
I bought a 2023 Rogue in December 2023 and have only put 4,200 miles on it. Your video reminds me to be glad I am a low mileage driver. During 13 months of ownership, I have come to hate the electronics, the STUPID shift lever design (and how it functions), the constant beeps that tell me something has happened, but I often have no idea what the beeps mean, the STUPID stop/start system, the transmission sometimes "clunks" into "gear," and when I back out of the garage and put it into drive, it always takes a few seconds to engage.....dang, I think I have missed reporting other quirks, but this list has been a good start. I regret buying it!!!!
ALL cars hard to work on! Keep up the maintenance!
Great video. Fyi the t in cvt stands for transmission. So when you say "cvt transmission" you're saying "continously variable transmission transmission"
ATM "machine". LOL. If you told your wife you were going to the AT Machine, she'd look at you funny.
Is that like an ATM machine?
Someone who knows what they're doing can swap that transmission in 4 or 5 hours. The starter is in a crappy location but the intake manifold can be removed in 10 minutes and then the starter is another 5 minutes. You don't even need to drop the subframe on these. Replacing these things was easy money for me and other dealer techs. Crappy cvt put food on my table lol.
We had a guy who could do two sentra cvt's per day
That was the most educational video I have ever seen and I'm a very old man.
in my Nissan qashqai there is Renault engine 1.5 l diesel engine. With a six speed manual gearbox. European made and I have never had an issue with it.Living in. Europe there is no problems with Nissan and
automatic transmissions are not popular in Europe .
No, the belt in a CVT transmission is not what is continuously variable. The 2 pulleys that the belt wraps around are what are continuously variable.
PIVs are certainly nothing new. I worked on an old Klingelnberg Gear machine with CVT drives. It used Wheatstone bridges for feedback and had tubes in the control.
I have a 18 year old Nissan with the old school 4 speed auto. Nuff said.
Eddy everything you just said in the video is correct, as a former ASE Certified auto technician i agree 100% , i owned a nissan in the 90's and that thing was awesome, and then they came out with those awful CVT transmissions and ruined the whole company, nissan was so good in the 90's now my go to brand is Honda or Toyota only, own a toyota now and my motorcycle is a honda, dont want my wife stuck in-the middle of the road driving a car that is known for problem, i was thinking of buying a nissan Rouge back in the day until i started to hear those awful transmissions. My coworkers daughter also had a rouge and they told her the trans was bad and it cost $5000 to repair, she traded it in. Lost my faith in nissans years ago after owning a good one for 17 years that had a traditional transmission that never went bad, thank you for such an incredible video and sharing of yiur knowledge, another topic that needs to be addressed is timing belt vs timing chain, so glad honda car manufacturer went back to chains and the reason why i bought a Toyota is because it uses chains instead of belts that have to be replaced every 90- 100,000 miles
Honda CVTs are much better so it's possible to make one that lasts. Also changing the fluid regularly is a must. Look how brown that fluid was when he opened it. Looked like motor oil.
You just remove the bolt for the trans mount stud & then let the power train down a few inches for easy access to the bolts on the side of the transmission
I had a 2011 Murano. I bought it used with the full knowledge the transmission would eventually die. It made it to about 200,000 km. I sold it to a friend for $1000 and he put a few thousand more to get a rebuilt transmission put in. It's too bad because it was otherwise a pretty good car. The engine (VQ35) was solid.