I Discovered a RARE Piece of Games Workshop History on Ebay
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In this video, I show you a RARE piece of Games Workshop history that I bought over a year ago on eBay, and ask for your help in determining what I should do with it!
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I was working in a hobby shop when all this was released. Thanks for taking me back to the good old days Dana.
back in the early eighties when the shops were first being opened, each shop was given A citadel Dragon and a version of the Citadel Giant that was only available for display in the store. While I was stock taking old molds I came across the molds for both and cast myself one of each, both are still unmade and stored away as I have no idea how much the are worth
If you’re ever looking for a buyer hit me up, that sounds like an incredible video idea
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If you get them, tease us with making videos on them.
Oh, by the way, dont get your hopes up for that paint set.
The pots were the worst GW has ever made.
My pots, even the unopened, dried up in less than 6 years after I bought the mega set in 1999.
Despite not growing up with this era of GW, wow it hits those nostalgia brain chemicals *hard*. I'm conflicted, a younger me would have wanted to dive in, tear boxes open, and use everything for its intended purpose. And I would love that vicarious experience. But me now looks at this as a relic to save in as complete a state as possible, preserve this little time Capsule. The lizard men and chaos halberdiers I don't think I've ever seen before. It's a unique and special item for sure and a great story
The Lizardmen are the original model range back when they became a proper army in 5th edition (they were in the starter box for that edition, too). The Chaos Warriors of that time were great multi-pose kits, with a sprue of mutated limbs that it shared with the Chaos Space Marines of the time, before they went back to mono-pose warriors in 6th edition.
@@Blacknight8850 the painting set is really weird to me, looking back. the saurus warriors i strongly associate with 5th edition (due to their inclusion in that edition's starter set; obviously the sculpts stuck around for a long time after that!), but the paint pots are (to me) more reminiscent of whfb 6th ed/40k 3rd ed. these were the ones where citadel moved away from "flip top" lids and replaced them with screw-tops-not quite like the dropper bottles of other manufacturers, as the idea was you removed the lid and flipped it over to use as a reservoir. unfortunately this actually _exacerbated_ the age-old problem of citadel's paint pots, since the screw threads inevitably became very clogged by dried paint, even more so than the thread-less seals of their flip-top lids. they were (thankfully) replaced by a very similar looking bottle (tough, glassy plastic with black lids), albeit flip-top opening once more.
I think the bright, charming primary colors of the Eavy Metal style trigger nostalgia in general. I love it.
Snipe and Wib are likely feeling psychic reverberations through The Warp...
Thank you for the trip down memory lane. Great GW era. Couldn’t afford anything back then.
Keep it sealed, and build the Warhammer Hobby Center in your room. A small gaming store at your home, with old blisters, posters etc. Would love to see that as background for your YT videos. ❤
This is when I started playing 40K back in high school. Such nostalgia. Many old man stories. Wow.
Keep them sealed...Speaking as an OLD Hammer, you can only imagine the tingly little regrets to selling some very sweet classic figs I've Let Go of. Great score!
Build and paint everything, then create a shelf to display it all - cardboard box, kit boxes, paperwork, etc! Totally worth the display space for such an amazing piece of history.
What a mad trip down memory lane. That box of tactical marines was the first kit I bought back in 1998 when I got into the hobby. Second was a kit of Space ork boyz. Back then it was a box of 16 boyz for $30 CAD. Oh how time flies
I worked at GW Australia in 97 and sent out hundreds of these things to various companies like newsagencies and toy shops across the Australia and NZ in the period I worked there. A few years after I left I worked in a few retail environments and used my position to approach GW and get a few of these for ‘free’… I say ‘free’ in inverted comments because there was a payment of several months of harassment by their Trade Sales departments that came with it… the same trade Sales Department I had worked for! Thanks for bringing back some fond memories of both my time at GW and the free stuff I got as well.
Lmao. Ripping off GW is always fair and ethical at least.
Please don't unbox any of it. Keep it all together sealed. This is a part of GW history that should be preserved. I wouldn't be surprised if this retail sample box is unique in the fact it's the only one still complete with box.
I agree I think this could be a one of a kind piece, I’m really quite hesitant to unbox any of it!
@@DanaHowl This is akin to finding a sealed limited edition #001 metal thunderhawk gunship 😲
This is such an amazing find! I wonder if you could scan the magazines/retailer documents (letter excepted) and upload it to the Internet Archive, it would fit in perfectly there and it's such a fascinating piece of history (I say this as a historian!)
Sae that would be great!
As someone who was born post 2000, I've really enjoyed the hunt of old Citadel history and model, my proudest collection is my over 30 metal Eldar Farseers and Warlocks, all versions of them I have.
Whenever I see warhammer from around the 90,s it takes me back to 92 when I started. Seeing you flick through the old catalogs & minis makes me really miss fantasy battle. Look forward to new old world whenever that drops hopefully soon 🤞🏻
I bet that Trade Secrets says sometime along the lines of, 'The key too long term profits, is too constantly Increase our prices for Australian stores by by 5% each year for the next 30 years, regardless of if inflation actually went up or not, everywhere else 2% will do'
Oh, the GLORIOUS sensation of Black Templars listed as a Codex Chapter.
I hated it when they switched to those paint pots. The amount of times the lids would seal themselves shut and you'd make the biggest mess when you finally got them back off. They also held less than the old pots and dried out quicker. I remember using my paints from 1990 in 1999 without issue, but the 99 paints dried up fast. Damn, I'm old. I had that issue of White Dwarf too along with the scouts and homunculus. Nostalgia just hit me like a brick!
PLEASE!!! Keep the whole thing intact! It’s a piece of history! Maybe put the whole thing in a shadowbox?
I worked for GWUS at the time. We called them "trade packs." Each salesman were supposed to send out at least 10 a week to potential new accounts.
9:38 "What can my mom/girlfriend/sister do while i'm at Games Day?" - Wow! This puts this so hard in the "only teenage boys allowed"-corner, you'd think it comes straight from the 90s - oh, wait...
My god, the space marine paint schemes from the hobby booklet unlocked some DEEP memories for me! I haven't seen those pictures since I was a kid drooling over how cool the boys in the grade above me were for owning anything of that kind. It must have been a few years prior to '99, cause I didn't even understand whst I was looking at or how to find out (asking was out of the question ofc, those kids were waaay to cool for me to dare) - but it blew my damn mind!
Thank you for sharing with us, excited to see where you take this treasure. I'd love to see more of the different booklets!
That literal page made me fall in love with a paint scheme, The Scythes of the Emperor, that i still collect and paint to this day.
Talk about a self propelled mass reactive bolt shell to the old nostalgia!
That's an amazing find! Those Saurus models make up the bulk of my Lizardmen army, those Chaos Warriors were the peak of the range IMO, and that retailer material might not be archived anywhere else! I say use the models, but keep the boxes and retail materials in the box it came in, so it's still a time capsule of sorts but the minis won't stay trapped under shrinkwrap forever.
^This. The printed material should be preserved of course. But models are meant to be painted. Would you deny them their purpose?
That's so cool!!!!! I played 2nd Edition, and then had kids, and raised my family, and when Covid hit, I came back to 40k for 9th Edition! I love how the new models look, but something about the old school Marines, especially the Beakies just make me smile!
I got into 40k in the summer of 1999 and Dark Eldar were my first army. Good memories.
I worked at GW trade sales in the UK around this time and these kits were very common we sent out dozens every week. We would price the items, put all the blurb in but also hand written notes and they would get a rep visit within days of receipt. The only thing the sales text would have said that is a tad bit contentious is there was absolutely no sale or return which was rare in the toy trade. We would target these boxes at the more marginal stores ie film prop stores or comic stores that would not bite to take a starter stock of a few thousand £ without proof peeps wanted this stuff. It very rarely failed and indeed the older the target audience of the shop was ie chess sets and board games the better the GW sales as they now knew where to get little Johnnies Warhammers from D
This brings me back. '99 was the year I started and I can fondly remember flipping the pages of that catalogue until it was completely worn out!
I've lost all interest in GW stuff... but as someone who was into warhammer fantasy and 40k in the early-mid 2000's this was super nostalgic for me.
that was a blast from the past. Takes me back to the miniature train store in my hometown (which did have the Games Workshop Hobby Centre, which attracted my brother and me like catnip)
Thanks for this time travel.
Wow. Just wow. I have goosebumps watching this. My older brother introduced me to warhammer in the very early 90s. This video brings back so many great memories. I'm actually close to tears lol. Thank you for that. Have a sub and a like. Greetings from Reykjavík.
Wow! That takes me back. I was a Rouge Trader kid, and I remember all this when they all came out. Happy Memories.
Honestly I'd keep it sealed and as-is. There's a reason you can't find shit like this anymore, and that's because it's continually opened and then (more often than not) incompetently assembled and painted, ruining any value it once had. Not to mention the papers being improperly stored, or just man handled by some Cheetos encrusted ham beast, also destroying any collectable those had.
Keep it sealed. Put it in the attic. If we all survive it might be worth something one day
I wonder. Concerning the "its al free" signs, was there a time in the 90's that people got sent random packages with goods in them, and if they accepted the package, they would have to pay for the goods in them ? a scam essentially. I feel like I vaquely remember older people than me talk about such things, but I'm not sure. Those free signs might prevent people from sending it back in fear of a scam. I wonder if other people could confirm or deny that this was a thing back then, pre internet and all.
THAT was a find. That was what we got back in the day when GW actually gave a DAMN to use local game shops to sell their figures and games in. 3rd edition, and give or take some change.
Personally, I couldn't open the sealed stuff. While tempting, it would destroy the value. You can find these models on Ebay, but once you open a sealed box, it's gone forever...
You got the lizardmen paint set in time to paint the new Seraphon
They're still sending out boxes in this style. I used to work at my local bookstore and they sent us a sample box with a Recruit Starter Set for 40K, a Redemptor Dreadnought, and that AoS beginner's box with some paints, brushes, and 2 Stormcast. As the only Warhammer fan it was all mine!!
This is really cool. You asked weather you should paint it up or keep it sealed as a time capsule of sorts. I think there is an excellent middle ground.
You should take all the models and make a large diorama! This way you get to paint them up but you'll also be keeping them together as an homage to the period. Personally I think it would be doing the miniatures more justice than being sealed away in a weird warped box.
When I see a new Howl upload, my day instantly improves
I would leave it all sealed and together. I would even keep the damaged box it came in. Display it somewhere.
The box of chaos warriors is 'a bit warped', ha ha how appropriate!
This box litterally came out 2 months after I was born and WOW does it look cool!
The artworks, the retro boxes and models, it's just awesome to see that almost fresh out of the box. And I mean, I started painting and playing 40k with the Orks from Assault on Black Reach a friend gave me so even though I was "little" I still remember the aesthetic of that time being fairly comparable to what we have nowadays but this? This looks so different, so bright and kinda cartoony compared to what came after.
I'd suggest getting in touch with Warhammer World as while the collections on display are immense they are missing some items,who knows you may have something here they'd love for their collection,of course you'd want to deliver in person (Travel costs covered by GW for the privilage), very cool haul btw.
That's a pretty rare piece of GW history, the minis are nothing to write about, but all the other stuff it's a good example of a company with a different spirit.
A view into another world long passed.
Edited: What should you do?
Build them and paint them. They are meant to be played with.
I wandered into one of my regular charity shops the other day, and they showed me a HUGE pile of very old Citadel Miniatures branded Rogue Trader and very early Warhammer fantasy/40k minis, still in their boxes/plastic & card covers, and STILL in the original shrink wrap, too. They were donated by someone who found them in the attic of their new home, all saved by someone who obviously collected them for many years, but left them behind, unnoticed, after they died. I bought the entire collection, then gave them to my girlfriend and her daughter (They're BOTH Warhammer and WH30k fans, to say the least, so getting a massive amount of old pre-40k minis was a dream come true for them). I didn't know women could squeal with delight in vocal ranges only audible to bats or dolphins until that moment :-) Happy times all round, especially for me, as seeing the old RTB01 sprues in mint condition was just one major trip down Memory Lane, and they actually let me keep the skeleton box sets for my own Undead armies :-D
I never would have thought the words Games Workshop and Free would be interesting same sentence. This was great , thank you . I love the paperwork
I got a bunch of star wars instructions in a box with a tie fighter and a stack of bar codes and a mail in form for Boba fett never completed. I miss promotions like that. Great post , thank you.
Open everything up very very slowly, and then go to town, building, testing and painting all of that plastic goodness! A separate video for each of the Saurus warriors, a video for the Marines, one for the Chaos dudes and a separate video for each other model. Please make sure that there is plenty of exaggerated inhalations and smelling going on as you open each box.
Its weird that I occasionally forget I was the GW rep for a local game store way back for like two years, but you should be fine sharing the forms, I was a rep/events manager at the end of 5th ed into 6th and It was odd to me that late into the 00s that retailers had basically two ordering options, which was by mail using the forms, or via phone and your account rep, no web based vendor portal. The latter is why you're probably good to share since you need an account number to do anything with them since they are not specific to each account ect.
Still defo cool to see a trade demo kit in basically like new condition, they stopped doing those ages ago but they kinda sorta live on in the prize support packs which have a similar composition or did when I was still in the industry anyways.
My buddy signed up to be a retailer, even though he had no store, and just rented an apartment above a barber shop, hence having a commercial address.
He received one of these boxes and did nothing with them.
That lizardmen paint set was the first warhammer product I ever owned. Was bought as a present for my 9th or 10th birthday.
I still have those lizardmen, still with the paint job done by those paints, 20+ years ago
I had one of these boxes from pre 1995 and it came with a vhs explaining the business model of how to sell games workshop products. That box was the start of my hobby life. it came with fantasy and 40k minis
This is such an amazing find!! Thanks for sharing it with us and transporting me back to some of my favorite memories of my late teens!
I think it's a given that the paint is dried out and unusable at this point. I'd say don't open the paint and keep it sealed. Display or sell it?
Please 🙏 keep it all sealed! To have all of that together as a single piece is wait makes it what it is. I remember all of those miniatures from my childhood, and seeing this has brought back some great memories!
Wow a trip down memory lane. I started the hobby around '97 and seeing the old paint pots and models is a great trip for me...thanks for sharing this.
This comes from that era when GW would love-bomb a UK town's independent gaming shop, let them build up a local following and then open a Games Workshop and muscle out the original indy. A sort of genestealer/tyranid strategy.
How odd, because right around this time GW was expanding opening a lot of stores and started refusing to sell their products to local game stores.
They squeezed out a lot of small local game stores to try to make their GW stores the only place to get their products.
That was in Europe, this was still a time they were trying to push across the pond however they could.
even over here in central europe, in towns and cities that didn't have their own GW store, the local hobby/toy shops often had exactly that wall of products shown in the "trade secrets" brochure... hasn't really ever changed either, the same shop I bought my first paints and minis from still has the same wall full of stuff, just gradually phased out metal minis and outranged paints, while the Warhammer store one city over is still crammed in the same oldtown nook it's been in for 20odd years.
@@Crivicus No, this happened in Canada in a city of 200,000. At the time, they even told the owner of the game store, who I had been friends with for years, even helped when he had pickups of shipments, that they were opening a GW store at the local mall and didn't want to "dilute the market" with too many competing stores.
It was basically dirty business tactics to give themselves a monopoly and force people to go to their store in that region.
In another city, a few hours away, where they didn't have a GW store, the local game store there was still able to buy GW products and resell them.
It was plain, old anti-competition. But no politicians gave a damn about a small local store selling comic books, card games, and army men.
So wrong - I worked for GW trade sales UK and we supported our FLGS hard and there are decades of sales evidence to show GW stores and indi stores doing well together as the presence of both brought more footfall and sales. I lost track of the number of old school stores that sold old school game stuff eg chess sets and board games that got a real boost from stocking GW stuff and our retail stores got a boost as the FLGS would send peeps our way when they asked for stuff they didnt stock. We often did joint games events too.
@@ScytheNoire The magazine indicates this box was sent out in 1999 or around then thereof. Back then they definitely were trying to help out independent stores. It was around 2006 or so that they shifted gears to pushing out independent stores. At the time it felt like a lifetime apart, but now it's barely a decade apart and definitely could have muddled people's memory. The shift was very drastic, almost overnight, and GW nuked all of their good will with the fandom. Most at the time thought this drastic pivot was to prime the company for sale to Hasbro and they wanted to pump their quarterly profits for a short term sale, and then everything would be back to normal a year or so later.
As we mighty futuremen of the future can tell, that was not the case, and they were just idiots.
Personally, I would build the minis and paint them, then reapply shrinkwrap to the boxes, and mount them to something so that they can be on display. Maybe a sheet of plexiglass.
Wow, all those bright yellows, reds and blues! Classic Warhammer was a different beast.😄
👍👍 what an awesome find! I had some of this stuff myself back then, I would study them for hours, they were my sacred texts 😁 My two cents, as long as you keep some record of the original state of this stuff, do whatever you want with it 🤷🏼♀️ Great to see this stuff getting some love, I'm actually painting a load of 3rd edition stuff myself right now 😁!
This was a year after I got into the hobby. I started out with that lizardman paint set. So much nostalgia!
Seeing the flat base coated example model on the box got me thinking. Obviously they wanted to show an attainable example of what a beginner could achieve using the paints in the set, and there were no shades included.
However, I'd like to see a video where you try to paint the model the best you can using only the paints in the set. I reckon you could give it a good shot with a bit of mixing and layering! Maybe even thinning down the black to do a bit of old school blacklining 😝
Be VERY prepared for the paints to smell like a hole in the earth. Whatever room they’re opened in will be haunted by the smell for hours
Make a whole video series of every item in the box. Do some research on the kits and the state of Warhammer in 99. Maybe even get a interview with someone who worked for GW at the time.
In 1999 I was graduating the graphic design school and prepared for my Bachelor. I chuckled when I saw the promo material in this box for 2 main reasons.
The first is that I almost forgot how much paper we used to use back then. This type of folders full of leaflets, sometimes stickers and 2/4 page brochures, pretty much disappeared almost 10 years ago, and transformed to online promotional material. Back very few people had an internet connection and many people did not even own a PC, unless their job required it or if they had teenage kids in the house.
The second is the liberal use of Photoshop's layer effect on EVERYTHING, especially bevel and emboss. You see before the early 90's, creating the illusion of 3d embossed text, took hours and hours of masking work with a real airbrush. Most publications went with a ''clean'' look because of the layout/design process that made certain effects and design elements time consuming. Actually before the 90's making the layout for a page, had a very similar process with scrapbooking. Elements cut and pasted by hand and in many instances a less creative designer with the ability to keep the page clean of glue marks and have everything squared nicely, was valued more than a very creative but sloppy one. Once programs like Photoshop made the creation of certain elements like gradients, embosses, textures, easy, they really went wild with them, because people were considering them the mark of (past) luxurious editions.
Another interesting element is that the Citadel catalogues are structured a lot like a music magazine of the time. One would expect a closer design relation to comic mags but actually these look much more like Metal Hammer or Kerrang of the time.
Omg…so much nostalgia in the box.
I started in the hobby just before the third edition was released. I had just divorced and was gaming five to six nights a week! I still have all my 3rd-ed Marines in my closet today. Good times.
"It belongs in a museum!"
Hah, that was so great Dana! I love the 90' Warhammer stuff, I'd like to see much more of it on your channel, and a lot of you painting such things! :)
If I remember correctly, the Tac Squad was priced at $17.50 USD around that time.
If only there was an extended podcast format available discussing this with another creator Hmmmm Someone you could have Discourse with hmmm lol Amazing find Dana!
Absolutely from the good days of GW history. I remember all those bits and pieces.
I remember for a while back in the 90s I had the large paperback order catalogues. Oddly, when mail ordering via this system for several years after print; they honoured the prices I quoted to them on the "fill this out yourself" form rather than what happened to be the latest price at the back of the White Dwarf or in store blisters.
My rarest piece of GW came from Ebay, too. I found an authentic Centurius model online. Paid about what you did for this box for it and I don't regret a penny.
I think keeping them and painting them up would add to the story of that box. It's part of your collection and life now. You could keep the boxes together as a time capsule.
5:14 I hope it's like a SteveMRE video but that you don't get carted away with botulism at the end. You got to listen for the hiss when you open those paints.
Keep it. I imagine it will be worth a fortune in the future and a nostalgia trip when you reach 90.
Man, the nostalgia hit from this video was intense. Literally the first model I ever painted was from that Chaos Warriors Halberdier regiment. Hope to see you paint them up one day Dana, I'm sure you'll do them more justice than 13-year-old me managed!
Man I have been getting into retro stuff. I got a retro 2cnd edition tac squad (almost fully painted...) And a 4th edition Battle for Macragge box set (in the process of getting paint). I am having a blast moving into the past before I springboard to the future!
Ah yes from the good old days when companies offered generous samples and you could get lots of free stuff at conventions... now you are already happy when you get a free bonbon (just one) or an free pen (after you fill out a survey with all your data, of course.)
BUT, I have to say independent 3D printers are still the embodiment of this previous era, at least from my experience you often get a random free 3D print as an extra for your purchase and I greatly appreciate it.
This was the GW I loved if you don't know you will never know.... sad times but good memories
I still have my 3rd edition box from when I was a kid, with rulebook, terrain and badly painted minis. It's so cool seeing all of that artwork and promotional material in pretty much pristine condition!
5:28 I remember when this came out, the level of customization and ease of assembly over the pewter/plastic combo marines was mind-blowing.
It was also $28 Canadian.
ahhh the joy of these little colourful 90s style time capsules, little bit envious about the models, but i need to see them opened and painted by you! Toys need to be opened if they spark joy and i need to see the goofy ass old awkward sculps in your glowing paint schemes
Not gonna lie, the eyebrow batting at the end has me wooed. I hope my love letter reaches you well Dana
Oh boy, this is a nostalgia trip! I got into the hobby in December of that year, and I had those Chaos halbadiers! I also think my flgs had the GW hobby station, I recognise a lot of the products (rip Empire, Kings Lynn) I just missed out on BFG, which is sad.
I have a *palpable* memory of flipping through that exact 1999 catalogue when I was in middle school! I had no idea what any of this stuff was ("I guess Skaven are, like... rat... disease... dudes? COOL!"), but I knew I wanted it. I also DEFINITELY had that two-pack of metal Space Marine scouts! I wasn't ready for this degree of nostalgia today!
I used to trail around 2nd hand shops looking for RPG and gamebooks. I once found a pristine boxed copy of Warhammer 2nd Edition for £1! Wish I'd kept it, but I was skint at the time so it went on ebay and I made about £40.
I kinda had a hard time enjoying painting Warhammer, so I started painting them in retro colors, and I'm enjoying it more now. Nostalgiahammer is definitely a vibe.
I started work at the GW US HQ in October of 1999. These was a real walk down memory lane. I loved the Baymeadow Drive offices and thr people there were amazing.
Everything was so bright. I love it.
That BFG issue of White Dwarf was the 4th issue I bought. I rebought it recently on ebay as my copy went missing.
OMG ! Nostalgia is kicking me back to that wonderfull era. Thank you for that :)
What a great haul!!!! Congrats :) Side note: I was at the Golden Demon 99 so a brief look at that old advert was killer. :) Thanx Great box set of really cool stuff..
I still have my old OG paint set and case with allll their old colours and washes and it's amazing some are still going
Keep it sealed and buy the models off ebay cheap. That way you can have a painted set and a sealed set.
And I am 16 again. I have that White Dwarf, still. Thanks for the nostalgia trip.
i brought the 2006 complete catalogue of games workshop, a very chonk, hardcover and heavy book with lots of lots of photos of products and stuff.
It almost seems a shame to open any of these but as Tiny Spock tells Sheldon in BBT - It is not logical toys are meant to be opened and played with. A nice retro display board would be a good idea. I do remember seeing some of the brochures in store and included in boxes. I also remember picking up some of the paint sets from a UK discount retailer (may have been the Works or something similar) for about 50p a box - although I can't remember whether they were these paints or the the ones that P3 now produce. Great find and worth every penny (or Loony as I think they say in Canada).