It's not that the city is trying to be like Laos or Thailand, but culturally they are historically linked and by lineage are one and the same with differences and evolution through 1000s of years of migration, interchange, and adaptation. I say this as a Lao-American who is also Chinese by family lineage. The modern hotels and progress you see and are referring to still makes references to traditional architecture. At some point modernity has to take place otherwise you would not have traveled to, enjoyed, and appreciate the local culture and area. Tourism benefits the locals as well. Without those modern buildings and accommodation I doubt you would have bothered to explore the city, people, culture, and local customs.
What does Xishuangbanna mean in Chinese? In Lao it is actually Sipsongpunna, which means 12,000 rice fields. Similarly, take a look at cities in the western U.S., cities like Los Angeles, San Francisco, San Diego, etc, they retain the name because it was built and inhabited by the Spanish before Americans took over. It would be silly for you to say they try to brand themselves Spanish but that’s who the majority of the inhabitants are originally.
@@moh6410 dialect is more closer to Lao and or Thai Issan. You can easily pick up on a lot of same words and put things together and hold a conversation. Mandarin is also used by the younger generation as it is mandatory in schools as well as local language.
DAI=TAI,South East Asia and ended up in many countries in the region like Thailand (related to northern Thai), Myanmar(shan state in myanmar)and Lao. , and Thai groups in Vietnam. So, they share the same language and the same culture, with minor differences. Those in China are Chinese politically and more Chinese culturally.
You should start a professional travel video guide like Fordors and put in more info like maps and directions and costs and recommend restaurants and lodging etc
I'm going there next week, and this was very useful, will try to go to all the places you highlight. Thanks, you're a cute couple and this video was very well done.
Thai, Laos and the Dai people all belong to the same race Dai. Culture wise they are the same. So it doesn’t make it fake that they label themselves Thai or Laos and of course they are doing so to attract tourism. Also, funny if they call it “Dai” culture, the Thai or Laos may say china “steal” their culture like South Koreans saying Korean Chinese stealing their culture. I just wouldn’t overthink it.
I am Thai and I know Sipsongpanna very well. The Dai or Tai people are the same race as the Thai, Lao, and Shan people. We are related and have a common ancestor. Our languages can be understood by each other. Our culture is the same. So it's not stealing, it's our identity.
This is the original Thai and Lao culture. In Thai we call the Dai people "Big Thai" or "Thai Yai - ไทยใหญ่" and we all know we come from there that's why we call it big Thai and that's why Thai and Lao have the same culture as the Dai people.
@LMAO4real Why would Xishuangbanna people leave Yunnan go to Cambodia and go back to Xishuangbanna to build houses and temples just like Cambodian people? Maybe when Thais and Lao people left Xishuangbanna and settle in Mon land we started to build houses and Khmers started to copy us. Xishuangbanna architecture looks the same as Thai and Lao as it would only make sense we build what we know when we left Xishuangbanna and Khmers were just slaves who copied us. Trosok Peam (Sweet Cucumber) was a Royal Gardener who killed the original Khmer king and proclaimed himself as king in 1373. Now the slaves are free from Khmers are free from the Khom, the original people who built Angkor Wat. Since Trosok Peam (Sweet Cucumber) became king, Khmers can't hold on to their land or build anymore temple. Why don't you tell the world that the real Khmers are slaves?
Best part is starting 2024 China and Thailand no longer need to apply for visa !! And also Thai citizens will be able to go to China university for free incredible times
I like your message that Xishuangbana should show its beauty as it is, rather than trying to sell fake tourism. It seems it's worth visiting the city for it's architecture and nature.
Definitely a very weird city. Different from China, different from SEA... but still worth checking out, even just to witness the strangeness of it all 😅
@@JHMedium I often traveled to China and other countries hoping to see their cultural heritage, but ending up seeing the same buildings, brands, people who are more interested in selling souvernirs. Maybe I might try UNESCO cultural heritage. Thanks. Hoping to see more of your travel to interesting places.
Hey Guys! Love your channel. Your video is so nice and good telling story. I'm Thai and I'm going to Xishuangbanna next month. It seems like they tried to be Thai and Laos .. this is non sense. I think the real Dai are living outside the city and Chinese come for business so this why it is ridiculous. I hope to see real Xishuangbanna not a them park for tourist attention.
As an Indian i am ashamed of my Country, i bow to cheanse people.. what a culture.. unbelievable development in such short time while saving their historical towns exactly the same and neat.. population wise this place looks like a small village in maps but in reality it looks better than any big City in India.. hatsoff guys.
Just my opinion is Xishuangbanna is way to touristy. Really disappointed by the night market. Same at Yangshou or Lijiang…. Get outside to see the country it is fantastic in southern Yunnan. ( PS don’t bother with the not wild elephant tourist trap). Don’t get me wrong, I love the place, but feel Xishangbanna is the bottom of the barrel.
That’s a great review of the area. Great videography too! Sadly all of the minority cultures are just a way for the Han majority to come in, be materialistic and make money. It’s not that the local culture seems to be trying to be Thai or Lao. They really have the same culture. Dai minority and Thai are the same people. It’s just that, at some point in the past, the chinese took the land. Yes this was the way of those ancient days. It’s just a shame that Han still exploit minorities.
"It’s just a shame that Han still exploit minorities." Do you have any statistic to back up your claim that all these business establishments are owned by the Han? or it's just your assumption? or Han is always the bad guy? well, at least they did not subjugate the people and culture into extinction like Australia, USA and Canada. As a matter of fact, China preserves their culture as you can see their traditional style buildings and temples are still pretty much in-tacked, and more than that, you still see their traditional scripts and writings on road signs and shops, can you say the same about the colonized continents I mentioned above?
这么好的旅行视频，展现了中国西南丰富多彩的人文美景，才几千的点击量！明显是被油管限流了嘛。有个瑞士的华人来云南像老鼠一样专门去拍云南“老破小旧”的穷地方，随便一个视频点击量都是几万几十万，我一个土生土长的云南人看了都生气，拍穷地方没什么问题，但总不能只落后的一面，而完全不拍云南的美好发达的一面，太鄙视那个瑞士香蕉人了，连名字都故意迎合欧美人“little chinese （women）every！
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It's not that the city is trying to be like Laos or Thailand, but culturally they are historically linked and by lineage are one and the same with differences and evolution through 1000s of years of migration, interchange, and adaptation. I say this as a Lao-American who is also Chinese by family lineage. The modern hotels and progress you see and are referring to still makes references to traditional architecture. At some point modernity has to take place otherwise you would not have traveled to, enjoyed, and appreciate the local culture and area. Tourism benefits the locals as well. Without those modern buildings and accommodation I doubt you would have bothered to explore the city, people, culture, and local customs.
The History of the Thai Chinese (Part 1) | The China History Podcast | Ep. 259
What does Xishuangbanna mean in Chinese? In Lao it is actually Sipsongpunna, which means 12,000 rice fields.
Similarly, take a look at cities in the western U.S., cities like Los Angeles, San Francisco, San Diego, etc, they retain the name because it was built and inhabited by the Spanish before Americans took over.
It would be silly for you to say they try to brand themselves Spanish but that’s who the majority of the inhabitants are originally.
Definitely 10 of 10 on this great Vlog!!😍😍 好会拍哦！
The food!!! And wow great vlog, really well thought out and artistic while grounded!! FABULOUS!
Dai cuisine is delicious! 🤣
This vlog is so beautifully edited! I enjoyed every bit of it! Thank you for all the info!
I loved this place. I also made a video about some of the less visited places outside the city
I went there twice (2007 and 2009), and I truly enjoyed it! It is such a beautiful and peaceful place.
did the people there speak chinese or thai ?
did they speak english ?
@@moh6410 dialect is more closer to Lao and or Thai Issan. You can easily pick up on a lot of same words and put things together and hold a conversation. Mandarin is also used by the younger generation as it is mandatory in schools as well as local language.
DAI=TAI,South East Asia and ended up in many countries in the region like Thailand (related to northern Thai), Myanmar(shan state in myanmar)and Lao.
, and Thai groups in Vietnam.
So, they share the same language and the same culture, with minor differences. Those in China are Chinese politically and more Chinese culturally.
Dialect is more closer to Thai Issan(Phu Thai)to Lao and to Lanna kingdom.
🎉❤great, thank you for sharing great video,🎉❤
Wow this was an amazingly well thought out vlog, kudos to you!
You should start a professional travel video guide like Fordors and put in more info like maps and directions and costs and recommend restaurants and lodging etc
I'm going there next week, and this was very useful, will try to go to all the places you highlight. Thanks, you're a cute couple and this video was very well done.
Thai, Laos and the Dai people all belong to the same race Dai. Culture wise they are the same. So it doesn’t make it fake that they label themselves Thai or Laos and of course they are doing so to attract tourism. Also, funny if they call it “Dai” culture, the Thai or Laos may say china “steal” their culture like South Koreans saying Korean Chinese stealing their culture. I just wouldn’t overthink it.
As a Thai, I don’t care. Our ancestors were originally from around there, so it kinda make sense why we have similar culture
We were not part of China ! We were conquered by China and force to learn Chinese !
We were not allowed to continue our languages! That’s difference!!
China has no religions , just communist leaders out for themselves and families , they couldn’t care less about the ordinary citizens!
As a Dai people living in Myanmar Shan state， we from the same ancestors ，we share the same culture， There is no such thing “Steal”
I am Thai and I know Sipsongpanna very well. The Dai or Tai people are the same race as the Thai, Lao, and Shan people. We are related and have a common ancestor. Our languages can be understood by each other. Our culture is the same. So it's not stealing, it's our identity.
I really love Yunnan!
This is the original Thai and Lao culture.
In Thai we call the Dai people "Big Thai" or "Thai Yai - ไทยใหญ่" and we all know we come from there that's why we call it big Thai and that's why Thai and Lao have the same culture as the Dai people.
Yea you guys aren’t khmer culture at all what happen why did you guys claim khmer culture 😅
@LMAO4real Why would Xishuangbanna people leave Yunnan go to Cambodia and go back to Xishuangbanna to build houses and temples just like Cambodian people?
Maybe when Thais and Lao people left Xishuangbanna and settle in Mon land we started to build houses and Khmers started to copy us. Xishuangbanna architecture looks the same as Thai and Lao as it would only make sense we build what we know when we left Xishuangbanna and Khmers were just slaves who copied us.
Trosok Peam (Sweet Cucumber) was a Royal Gardener who killed the original Khmer king and proclaimed himself as king in 1373. Now the slaves are free from Khmers are free from the Khom, the original people who built Angkor Wat.
Since Trosok Peam (Sweet Cucumber) became king, Khmers can't hold on to their land or build anymore temple.
Why don't you tell the world that the real Khmers are slaves?
sorry but khmer people are slaves
@@LMAO4realXishuangbanna, situated on the Mekong River, is quite challenging for Khmer to navigate by boat upstream.
@@bacsolo3719 why don’t you ask the turmoil that has happened and made you Chinese ppl migrate
Looks lovely, definitely makes me inspired to visit! 😊🌄
Best part is starting 2024 China and Thailand no longer need to apply for visa !! And also Thai citizens will be able to go to China university for free incredible times
I like your message that Xishuangbana should show its beauty as it is, rather than trying to sell fake tourism. It seems it's worth visiting the city for it's architecture and nature.
Definitely a very weird city. Different from China, different from SEA... but still worth checking out, even just to witness the strangeness of it all 😅
@@JHMedium I often traveled to China and other countries hoping to see their cultural heritage, but ending up seeing the same buildings, brands, people who are more interested in selling souvernirs. Maybe I might try UNESCO cultural heritage. Thanks. Hoping to see more of your travel to interesting places.
Excellent video, very nice 👍
I hope China will promote the revival of Tai/Dai language and culture in Yunnan as well as those of Zhuang in Guangxi Zhuang
The History of the Thai Chinese (Part 1) | The China History Podcast | Ep. 259
Nice , video thanks for ,.....is really interesting 👍🏻 😊
Omg thats the cutest scooter I’ve ever seen😂😂
Suǒyǒu zhòng guó dìngyuè zhě Xiàwǔ hǎo
Xishuanbana people are tai Lue people, the city closely borders LAOS country, Thailand not even close to China border.
Both Laos and Xishuangbana were once part of the Siamese (Thai) kingdom and all of them belonged to the same ethnolinguistic group
Chiangmai in China
The History of the Thai Chinese (Part 1) | The China History Podcast | Ep. 259
WoooooW I really want to go there 🩵💙🩵💙🩵💙🩵
Where did you get this cute bear🧸😍
Limited edition.
10/10 great clog 💯💯💯💯💯
Hey Guys! Love your channel. Your video is so nice and good telling story. I'm Thai and I'm going to Xishuangbanna next month. It seems like they tried to be Thai and Laos .. this is non sense. I think the real Dai are living outside the city and Chinese come for business so this why it is ridiculous. I hope to see real Xishuangbanna not a them park for tourist attention.
Hi. Do you have any idea whats the best itinerary to see south China? :)
As an Indian i am ashamed of my Country, i bow to cheanse people.. what a culture.. unbelievable development in such short time while saving their historical towns exactly the same and neat.. population wise this place looks like a small village in maps but in reality it looks better than any big City in India.. hatsoff guys.
If they didn’t sell Dai (Thai) foods, what would they sell?
Oh cool 360 camera? Which brand
Nah, I just used a traditional action cam here, DJI action 2.
Hello, what is the Yunnan origin?
Just my opinion is Xishuangbanna is way to touristy. Really disappointed by the night market. Same at Yangshou or Lijiang…. Get outside to see the country it is fantastic in southern Yunnan. ( PS don’t bother with the not wild elephant tourist trap). Don’t get me wrong, I love the place, but feel Xishangbanna is the bottom of the barrel.
That’s a great review of the area. Great videography too! Sadly all of the minority cultures are just a way for the Han majority to come in, be materialistic and make money. It’s not that the local culture seems to be trying to be Thai or Lao. They really have the same culture. Dai minority and Thai are the same people. It’s just that, at some point in the past, the chinese took the land. Yes this was the way of those ancient days. It’s just a shame that Han still exploit minorities.
"It’s just a shame that Han still exploit minorities." Do you have any statistic to back up your claim that all these business establishments are owned by the Han? or it's just your assumption? or Han is always the bad guy? well, at least they did not subjugate the people and culture into extinction like Australia, USA and Canada. As a matter of fact, China preserves their culture as you can see their traditional style buildings and temples are still pretty much in-tacked, and more than that, you still see their traditional scripts and writings on road signs and shops, can you say the same about the colonized continents I mentioned above?
The History of the Thai Chinese (Part 1) | The China History Podcast | Ep. 259
这么好的旅行视频，展现了中国西南丰富多彩的人文美景，才几千的点击量！明显是被油管限流了嘛。有个瑞士的华人来云南像老鼠一样专门去拍云南“老破小旧”的穷地方，随便一个视频点击量都是几万几十万，我一个土生土长的云南人看了都生气，拍穷地方没什么问题，但总不能只落后的一面，而完全不拍云南的美好发达的一面，太鄙视那个瑞士香蕉人了，连名字都故意迎合欧美人“little chinese （women）every！
Little Thailand in China ❤
Where is the sticky rice and papaya salad 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣