Before you Buy an HVLP Spray Gun
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- Опубликовано: 30 июн 2018
- Please watch this video before you buy an HVLP Spray Gun.
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so refreshing to hear some down to earth professional advise for us struggling amatuers. Keep it up mate!
Thanks for the info. Great timing for me as I'm starting to shop for a gun in the us now.
From one pro painter to another my friend love your vids u break them down for everyone that doesn’t quite pay attention to understand an catch before jumping in it I’ve seen a lot of ppl make those mistakes watching vids thinking no big deal jump in it an mess shit up bad so it’s nice to see someone that actually knows what they’re talking about giving ppl tips on how not to blow there money keep up the work bro would love to hook up with ya if you in the US sometime an throw down some paint an create a color or two for a nice project my hat off to ya bro great work great videos
great video! Your comments regarding pro vs dyi equipment id right on. i have a 30 gallon compressor ..and a decent mid range “hvlp” after getting erratic air flow, water vapor, etc. --and horrible results...I finally went to a 5 stage turbine sprayer. dry consistent air -only 9 psi..but 105 CFM. results have been great. I’ve painted two cars using single stage urethane and high solid clear..both fantastic..at least compared with my earlier efforts. I’ll never be as good as you...but your videos-especially your orange peel video have helped me immensely
Massively happy with my Tekna Pro Lite, your vids really helped me make that jump and I'm able to get quite close to the Benz factory finish with it. Cheers!
3:58 Eddie Van Halen stripes on your spray gun....made me smile. Massive kudos dude.
As a new painter i appreciate the info and simple breakdown. i do helmets, skateboards and motorcycles so i mainly use touch up guns. buying an lvlp now i have 3 hvlps in a 25lb compressor.
You are 100% correct my 2 old gti with 110 air work great on base and clear no problems great advice again
hows the 110 finish on it?
Some call gravity feed spray guns HVLP . Thank you Gunman the amount of help,information and reviews out there for free
That background is so badass haha! Thank you for sharing your wisdom Gunman.
Hey Gunny, you have helped me in so many ways to learn and understand a new trade. Thank you
Not sure if I was more excited about the advice, or the Nintendo GameCube in the background, boxed like mine! Another awesome video gunman! Thanks heaps from the East side!
Thanks for the info mate..love your channel
Completely agree with gunny. I switched from hvlp to conventional after leaving shop with giant compressor and love it!
This video is really nice to watch! I have a cheap Campbell Hausfeld DIY spray kit that is HVLP(after a lot of research) and I’ve had nothing but problems. Finish is very grainy and always seems to need a lot of polish to look professional. I also upgraded to a 20 gallon compressor and it’s still not quite right. You’re bang on when you mentioned you have to hold the gun closer, otherwise the finish is too thin and even more grainy. Thanks for the vid, I will buy a LVLP for my next project. Home Mechanic
I plan on painting my first car soon. This and the rest your vids are helping me tremendously.
Thanks for these great videos...You live in the real world for real people from all abilities and not just all top notch guns for pros ..Well done
gunman, I am not a professional spray painter, I do some spraying based on your teaching and recommendations, i bought one of the cheap devil/biss spray guns, as i see it i could'nt care less what they call the spray guns, late for dinner will do, as all i do is put paint in one end and it comes out the other and it gives an excellent finish.
Hi there. I am a bit late to this video. Thanks for all of the information. You have helped me a great deal with what you have shared. I mainly spray nitrocellulose lacquer and paint on guitars and furniture that I make. Your tips and tricks in your videos have definitely made me a better sprayer. Thank you.
I wanted to point out that your advice here not to get HVLP guns for home use should be aimed more at those who may be considering spraying a car or larger objects.
If you consider the midi and mini size guns for smaller projects this doesn't apply. I have a small SIP T3/25D compressor at my home that is only 25 Ltr = 5.5 Gallon and runs at about 5.5 CFM. This is fine for the smaller HVLP guns like the A.N.I. R150 and R160 that I have. ( I bought the A.N.I. guns from Sprayguns Direct after your reviews and demonstrations ). I also have Walcom Slim STM's and SATA Minijets. These are all HVLP. They lay the paint and clear on like glass and don't require a large compressor. For the home user that don't need to spray large objects like a complete car any of these would be fine.
I have found the smaller Walcom, A.N.I. and SATA Minijets to be very versatile and as you know from your demo's with the A.N.I. midi size guns they can do car panels and give pro results if you know what you are doing, as you do.
I agree with you regarding the full size guns. I have a Devilbiss GTI suction fed and a SATA LM2000B RP that I use with an old Ingersol Rand belt drive compressor that runs at about 15 CFM. Works great with the larger guns. Like you, for the larger guns I prefer the feel of the RP cap for the SATA LM and the Transtech cap for the GTI. I do have the HVLP caps for both but I definitely prefer the feel and finish I get with the RP and the Transtech. I don't see that there is much of an advantage with compressor requirements as setups for both guns require the around the same level of air displacement.
If I were to choose to keep one compressor for spraying it would be the Ingersol Rand. I got the smaller compressor as it is portable and I sometimes use it with my airtools around the home. It was a bonus that it could drive the smaller spray guns without the compressor straining.
Thanks again for sharing your knowledge and experience. It really is much appreciated.
HVLP guns caused a lot of trouble for me for many years, mostly due to a smaller air compressor. I prefer RP technology as well. For less experienced painters and DIY guys it's RP guns all the way. My advice to them is get a good RP gun and learn to mix up just enough material to minimize waste. This is where you have the most control over overall efficiency until you have mastered the trade. I wish I had watched this vid 20yrs ago ! Thanks Gunman ! 👍
Hi. good info thanks! what would you recommend for using on a construction site (houses and Appts) ? for undercoating (With oil based U Coat) frames,doors skirtings spindles and hand-rails ? I would like to put a finish coat on but am not sure if it would be a 'good enough finish' thank you in advance
Thanks for explaining this! Only problem is that I found this video after I already bought FLG-4 670 kit..and now looking for more powerful 30 gal compressor.
Funny to see the Gunman all layered up....winter in Aus, lol
It's 105 f here in Texas, brother...
Thanks for all you do to help us!
David Westernall Perth gets very cold I can you.
Thanks for the great advice, very much appreciated, now I’ll go and purchase FLG-5 Based on your advice. Thanks again here in the UK.
GRIDMASTER6 when I look up the flg5 it says it’s hvlp. I thought he was recommending lvlp guns. Do you know why he is talking about that gun?
Great video. I could not get the FLG5 in the US but found the ANI that you recommend around the same time, works great. Keep up the great work
Robert B got my flg5 spraygunsdirect.com super fast shipping $100 about a year ago 🇺🇸
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Great video, well said... Thanks for all the help n keeping it real with us. Awesome
I like my Iwata ls400 supernova. Mainly because I'm a aircraft mechanic but I do a lot of small parts painting on aircraft parts hanging on racks. We shoot single stage urethane paints. With Sherman Williams mil spec and super Koropon as a primer. The gun lays Koropon wonderfully and when I have to needle down to shoot inside bores and such it works wonderfully. I like my hvlp gun because it blows the small little dainty parts around less when you're trying to hold them still with safety wire. HVLP guns serve their purpose but they aren't for everyone. The only issue I ever seem to have a problem with is trying to get it to lay mil spec primer nicely.
I have had a Fuji HVLP system for years and its brilliant Ho Hum.
The quality of finish I get along with the ease of use and clean up more than make up for the amount of paint I use. I will never put my Binks Model-7 down. Thanks.
Size tip it come with ? Do they offer different size tips for it ,?? Do u base coat or CC with the Binks,? Is that a gravity or suct. Fed ? What's the price for it ?
@@dewaynebraley2820 They usually come with a medium tip good for lacquers, primers, epoxies, urethanes and clear coats. There are 3 tip sizes good for everything from shellacs up to house paints. It's a siphon feed gun. I shoot base coats and clear with the medium tip. I have shot hundreds of cars over the last 36 years with the same gun I own now. I've been using a Binks #7 since I started custom painting in 1976. The gun will shoot all sizes of metal flake also. Look for a used one that's been kept clean on ebay to save some money. They don't wear out so a rebuild kit will usually get them going like new. Hope this helps.
Used a#7 for years still have good guns
I have an older FLG3 that came with 1.3, 1.5 and 1.8 tips and I have been very happy with it, I have only done a few projects with it so it is basically still new I am very meticulous when it clean it so it should be good for a long time.
HVLPs work well for painter decorators, a practice which use paint viscosity quite different from what is used in a bodywork.
Glad you reintroduced this advice mate
Good point man! Appreciated, i'm plannin to buy a 5hp with 60 gallons tank but its too expensive. Now i think 2 to 3 hp air compressor with 30 gallon tank will do by just using rp or lvlp. spraygun.
This was so helpful thanks man, I'm buying the FLG 5
did you get it ? how does it work?
You just rescued me from buying a 400$ hvlp. I do own a conventional gun from 2008 price range at 120$ with 1.3 and I paint my beetles as an amateur painter. I still got some orange peal that I can't solve but I try to learn from your videos..
Good vid👍 I'm a DIY guy and i bought an LVLP gun with a variety of tips to shoot what i need with my home air compressor. Gun was under $100 usd
LVLP is much better suited to DIY
The Gunman Yeah the gunman I love my LVLP's I swear it gives such a great finish. I want to send you one to do a review on. You might have seen them or heard of them a bit. ATOM X Line? I've got the X20 MP LVLP and about to pre-order the X27 MP LVLP which is actually a clone of the Sata 5000 except the air valve is in a different spot or so I heard atleast. Tony from learn auto body and paint channel promotes them and for the price they definitely seem like a well made quality gun to me but I've never owned or even held a devilbiss pro-lite or anything else considered top notch guns. I did get to hold and feel the Walcom Genesis Carbino and loved the way that trigger felt but that's it. It would be sweet to see you spray with them guns and see what you think of the price vs. Quality and the finishes you can get with them. I basically learned spraying with these guns well actually still learning only been painting 6 months or so now. Mainly the same cars panels like 8 different times haha damn Honda Accord 2009 with Alabaster Silver Metallic one hell of a color to learn how to not only paint but learn body work for my first time. Haha
I really really wish I had seen you here firsthand now I know thanks for videos again awesome 😎
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Good advice gunny. I see a whole lot of people buying hvlp guns and want to use them with a home compressor.
thanks mate, didnt even know there was a difference between hvlp and standard guns. i was about to buy a really cheap hvlp gun, but now im gonna think about one of these now, jusyt looked at the FLG5 probbaly gonna go for that now. thanks for the info.
I’ve been smashing with the flg5, base, clear, single stage, just got a black flash impact air gunsa for primer 💪🏼
A painter told me when I was just starting out that it also requires a bigger air hose in the booth for a true help setup.
Yep, and high-flow air fittings
Ive recently bought a sata 5000 hvlp for our standox water system and its fantastic , spraying at 1.6bar . Ive had to readjusted my brain to how much paint im mixing up coming off my gti pro lite as its using much less paint .
This is an excellent video. I always sought out a HVLP with some of it attributed to that thinking "this is new so its better" but also because I tried to understand that it meant better transfer efficiency and so I assumed as a DIY/hobby guy i would be spending less money on paint. I think this is kind of a false assumption on my part because if i only paint 1 car a year how much paint and money will i really save? Also saving air is probably more important as I only have a 60 gallon home shop type compressor.
your right mate I been painting 40 year and totally agree
Thanks GM I had spent days agonizing over what to buy for motorcycle rebuild job..... ended up just doing what’s right and ordering the 1.4 FLG 5 while watching this video. Should I buy another gun for primer use or can I use this?
GFG-670 Gravity Gun DeVILBISS PLUS great home Gun, 1.2, 1.3, 1.4 included. Sprayed silver Acrylic Lacquer 1.4 tip, 30psi. Compressor 60gal, 5hp, 165psi. Trying base, clear next car. Thanks for all your videos. Only heard you mention the Plus, one time, not sure it’s sold outside the USA. I understand why lacquer is not a topic, but as I said base clear next, not silver, that took 3 attempts to get it right.
Hey gun that’s a great vid on explaining the difference in guns take care🤩
Thank you just the video I was looking for!!
Thanks for the info gunman
I’ve got one of those Harbor Freight special guns and it’s no prize but I got the kinks worked out of it after some modifications and it have sprayed epoxy, 2k, base, and clear with it and its 1.4mm tip and was able to get a surface with every little orange peel. There is no doubt that it is a cheap gun, and like I said I did have to do some work to it to make it function correctly but it works for a hobbyist like me.
I'm so glad you made this video. I'm starting out in the auto body field and I was wondering what kind of gun to get. I'll be using a small compressor at home and I would've ended up getting an hvlp gun. Thanks again
Daniel Lawson. I'm also just getting started. this video saved me about 200 dollars. I was going to buy an HVLP. I thought it ment high volume of paint with less air pressure. my budget is limited, and I can't afford a large compressor.
I agree, guys like (name? ) are so helpful, thanks.
Thanks,once again good sound advice.
I really enjoy your videos, always good info. Thank you
Aye Gunman, If u do a bit of rust repair and do a full paint job... Can you squirt oil into your panels/chasis and seams to stop rust ever coming back and do u use FISH OIL...?
Hi gunman,what air pressure would you advise to spray basecoat with a gti pro(not pro lite),it’s fitted with a transtech aircap and a 1.3mm tip....Great vid btw 👍
Gunman, any thoughts on HVLP turbine units? I thought one benefit of HVLP is you don't need an air compressor at all, plus you don't have to deal with moisture in compressed air.
Love all the vids! Happy canada day as well!
Cheers mate, Happy Canada Day!!!
Hi, can you please do a LVLP comparison between the cheap Sprayit 33000 /R500 and the GTI pro lite with TE10 or T110 ? I am looking for a spray gun with minimal overspray and low CFM requirement while doing a decent finish. Thannks for sharing all these awesomeness and knowledge
Hi Gunman, love your videos and reviews. I bought an FLG 4 last week, HVLP as you know, with the 3 tips. it was chosen based on quality, price ($400), and availability here in Canada. Choices limited. I have watched most of your videos and reviews on the gun, and HVLP in general and after some research found Devilbiss Dv690000 Flg-1-1 Air Cap no. 1 which is listed as a standard cap for my gun. Can you comment on your experience with it or perhaps let me know if you have done a review of the air cap? I will be ordering it in the next couple of weeks and was hoping it would help me as a DIYer. I have a 60 gallon compressor with specs that are just a bit better than minimum recommended for the hvlp gun. Any advise would be appreciated.
Also do you know of any other tips that may fit the gun from your experience?
Thank you in advance for your time and consideration. Keep up the excellent work.
~Andrew__
Gunny m8 here in Europe we have to use hvlp and to be honest we've never had atomisation issues ,However for those at home the big plus for hvlp is the reduced overspray especially if you use a turbine set up .I agree you need to use a bit closer to your work piece . I've been using uhs clear in my hvlp with no probs ,so I think it's more of set up to suit your needs wether it's conventional or hvlp each to there own . Cheers for the vid Gunny
I've been wanting a decent spray gun but I too cannot afford a 5 to $800 spray gun to only use it twice a year maybe. I've been leaning towards the finish line from Devilbiss after hearing this I'll probably go buy one. Thanks for all your videos and reviews. Now I'm going to go paint some shit!
Awesome man. I highly recommend it. I have a few more videos coming soon when I'm using my FLG5
I saw this already but was a good refresher.
Great video and very clear guidance, thanks
Great breakdown on what the difference is
Honest opinion is given here this deserves the best of respect from me thanks
How about low pressure low volume spray gun for spraying an old Trans Am where I will be doing sections at a time as I rebuild it?
Good morning sir, do you have a video on how to use/set-up up a slandered HVLP gun?
One question my friend what about the graco sprayer, have you heard of that brand? I say it because I'm about to get one to start working with it here in South America
Hi gunman thanks for you're videos, I've learned many. One thing I don't understand is why the flg5 is lvlp spray gun when its air consumption is 277 l/min (9.8 cfm) while The gpi has 265 l/min 9.4 and is hvlp gun. Like they both need the same size compressor. Thanks for the help
0Dani3l that’s what I’m wondering too. It actually says on amazon that it’s hvlp , not lvlp. I thought he was recommending lvlp guns.
Hey Gunman! I got a ton of respect for your abilities! I saw you review a Sata 4000 B HVLP and you had nothing but great things to say about it. After seeing your review I purchased a Sata 4000B HVLP Camo. I am a novis with a handful of paint jobs under my belt. Im actually going to upgrade my compressor because of the gun choice I have made. After watching this video I am thinking I made a big mistake. Any suggestions?
Hi gunman, could you do a review on the Dux Spray gun?
Being a spray painter myself I’ve found HVLP to be a new ball game especially coming to the paint mix and usually a thicker mix which has more of a chance to have runs or droops until using it a few times if your a more common conventional spray painter with high pressure guns
Try holding the gun very close and go nice and fast.
@@TheGunmanChannel Yes i paint bath tubs and HVLP was the first setup to do this bath being the start of my new career and with the thickness of the hose made it a challenge on itself let alone using a lower pressure and a bulkier heavy gun but they serve their purpose 👍🏼
I am in a tech college automotive refinish program, in the US. We use HVLP, because it is mandated by the EPA (Environmental Protection Agency). I use a Sata 4000B HVLP digital with a 1.3 tip. I only have this gun right now, so I spray Primer, Sealer, Base and Clear with it. I set pressure at 25 psi incoming rather than the 29psi that Sata recommends.
do i need high flow air hose and fitting for a devilbiss gpi
Thank you, I have a 26 gallons compressor painting small panels will go for LVLP spray gun so my compressor will not run all the time
Does that mean Low Volume ,Low Pressure? So thats alot like the HvLP little brother ? Besides the High is not Low if there is NO pressure
I got an FLG5 last fall and it is fantastic. Did a quick ms clear vid on it. Highly recommend for the diy guy on a budget.
I have to agree with you, the gun is absolutely amazing for the price. I also have a few videos on it.
SW Customs wbere did u get it
@@mikehfhryyyo0ysangeyrtrgei481 Off Ebay but sold by Sprayguns Direct
I just bought one and used it for clear and I love it! Is the only thing im going to use it for, clear. I never painted a car in my life and all my friends are in love with the paint job. They were all worry because the color I have chosen was a 3 stage paint job and sense I never painted a car before they thought I was going to screw things up, Lol. This gun made it possible for me. Right now is nice and clean and put in a very safe place. I wanted to put it underneath my pillow but my wife didn't like the idea😁😂🤣🤣.
i bought a gpi i used it on basecoat when i went to use it for my clear i had an uneven fan pattern cleaned it and still was uneven pattern it sprays on the top and on the bottom but nothing in the middle of the fan pattern dont know y? ant suggestions
I went for the Sharpe Razor LVLP. It looks like a winner.
thanks for the video.. i was thinking the hvlp is for high volume paint with less air, and it will be good for small compressor.. so hvlp is stands for high volume of air with less air pressure & it will consume more air than the standart spray gun..
thanks for the information, so i'll avoid the hvlp for now
great explanation, You have the painting experience and as far as it goes you're absolutely right. However all those so called HVLP automotive spray guns are not really HVLP. at least most of them. I sprayed clears on kitchen cabinets professionally for years, but it was some time ago. At that point The only way to get true HVLP was to buy a dedicated turbine system with large hoses (high volume of air). I did not go that route. The other way round was to have a killer compressor, I had a 5 HP 220 volt 80 gallon tank, which you need all of, plus an industrial grade HVLP gun adapted for use as a hand held unit, cost me around 500 bucks, plus larger hose and fittings. its not just the air horns, you need the power AND volume of air to drive a gun like this. You have to move slower requiring a more steady hand, and as you said your holding the gun very close to the work. The problem is with the operator used to the old school kind of gun, he just cranks up the pressure until he is comfortable, and defeats the purpose of HVLP in the first place. Not worth the hassle unless you need the HVLP for other reasons.
Quick question. As for paint (automotive single stage) usage from guns. How does an HVLP compare to an old school siphon feed gun? My best siphon feed is a Binks #7 for comparison. Thanks in advance for your answer.
Hi champ
This information was very useful to me ,I have a 2 HP compressor and it still doesn't cope with the help gun 1.7mm !!!
Cheers
Currently running a DeVilbiss Finishline 4 FLG-670 Solvent Based HVLP, love the gun. It does beautiful finishes, super smooth. I don't understand your objection of the HVLP gun.
I'm wanting to use plasti dip on my truck. Do I need an hvlp sprayer or will the sprayer I have work. It says it's for latex/oil based paint
What should I be using for spraying some cabinets, and also walls?. Ive done lots of research and it all seems to be hvlp, like wanger flexio etc.
As a bathroom refinisher, I spray high gloss acrylic polyurethane. Would a standard gun be better for this and could I still run my hvlp turbine behind it? What would the differences be?
Hey mate, another great informative video. What about a video on mid range turbine HVLP sprayers?
I have an Earlex 5500, it's ok but I get a bit of orange peel, is it me the home sprayer or is it the tool?
I only have a small 50 litre compressor with an LVLP gun but still it's stop start.
I like the idea for turbine sprayers for home, I've done motorbikes but want to spray my project car.
Thinking about a Fuji semi pro 2 or an Earlex Sprayport?
The devilbiss flg5 is a good gun for home spraying..ill use it alot and thats a small priced gun and you can spray cars in the booth..did a few cars and came out awesome..
Yer i have a T110 and use it on full resprays and i love the finish i can get. Used it on my clubsport when i painted that. Love it. I forgot to mention it in my initial comment so yer i use all 3. Can't beat them. I love my pro lites and what you can achieve with the different air caps. When will you be doing the primer gun raffle? Love the vids mate and happy you are enjoying making them and getting the following and success you deserve. Wanted to ask would you be keen to put together a workshop on colour matching. A $100 fee to cover materials etc. Perth painters!!
Just an idea. Cheers mate.
Troy
Cabinetmaker here looking for recommendation on a new gun. I have a Sata LM 2000 cup gun that I use for painting right now but I am looking for something a little better, maybe a larger tip for spraying the thicker paints that I have been dealing with. I'm thinking the Sata 5000 RP.
Thanks for explaining. 😃👍
Great video thanks as a novice I always thought it was all about hvlp.
Any recommendations between the gpg and flg5 for solid single stage 2k?
Are TCP globalized spray guns good ,which one would you recommend that can do it all prime ,paint, metallic flakes and clear coat or is it the different tips that are the ones that do individually those things? Which one would you recommend that is affordable but if not then I don't mind paying extra as long as its money's worth. Thank you for your time .
G'day Kevin here I foolishly bought the gti pro lite for home use . Is there a better cap I could maybe use. Maybe 125 or 130.
Gunman thanks for the video , have u noticed all the look alike guns when referring to the data style? What's up with that,? Do think there's a knock off that actually performs descent? What's your take on the $200 black widow vs the devibless starting line 1.3 gun
Hello can u do a demonstration and review of the warwick 990 paint gun?
Cool, thanks for all the info
Great explanation. Thank you.
Is this for an overall usage of base and clears, or for finishes only?
hi have u tried the eastwood concourse?
and hows the eastwood pro vs the devilbiss flg5
What kind of result will i have if i buy this gun using an air compressor with these specs? Im looking to spray a small city car.
Air Receiver Size 100 litres
Motor 3.0hp (2.2kW)
Piston Displacement 14.0CFM (397 litres/min)
Max. Free Air Delivery (F.A.D) 9.5CFM (269 litres/min)
Max. Pressure 130psi (9.0 bar)