Why I got an "Abortion"
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- Опубликовано: 30 авг 2023
- This is the story of how I found out I had 1, then 2 fast-growing lumps in my uterus-- and why getting them removed would be considered an "abortion" even though I was never pregnant. My experience just scrapes the tip of the iceberg of this very nuanced issue; so many more people have it worse, and I am very very lucky to in a place where I'm able to get a D&C. Our current lawmakers are barring people from accessing the healthcare they need, risking lives over things they don't care to understand, and it makes me sick.
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Thank you all for being so kind and supportive. I was really nervous to talk about this, and I didn’t know how y’all as fans of me / the internet would react. What a relief to see an outpouring of support for this issue and for one another’s stories!
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It’s brave and very inspiring to see you talk about this, love your content!
We are supportive because it's the right side to be on here, no debate to it
Glad to see you’ve been having a really supportive community. Talking about this is extremely important
how are you so based all the time
Illymation as a man i kneel down and i firmly grasp your hand & i look you stirght in the eye and tell you how Brave of a woman you truly are and that this was the best decision for you because babies are expensive and you shouldent be scraping by when you could get a job in the Army and earn lots of dough that way but at least you had a great time under the sheets...
Anti-Abortion lawmakers mansplaning what defines an Abortion is the most American thing I've ever heard
my bad
Why are you blaming men?
Don't we live in america? And life begins at conceptions which means you're literally killing a child. And the term fetus comes from Latin which means baby. How about you're just responsible with who you have sex with 😕
@@jamesconlin5099 OH will you shut up. It's every gender that's doing this but mainly men
@@jamesconlin5099 guess
"yet alone fidelity in their marriages" WAS THE SICKEST BURN I HAVE EVER HEARD
@@blaizegottman4139The right wing might as well not belong to the same species as the rest of us. They are below vermin.
SAME😂
A good catholic needs a divorce. They invented it after all, so they better use it.
That burn had me in stitches 🤣 ❤
I died laughing
As a male I didn’t know that abortion could mean removal of deadly substances inside you! Thank you for teaching me
It does make me pay more attention to the language of the law. "Abortion" doesn't seem to mean in legal terms what it means in spoken language terms.
But I find it unproductive to tell someone who is against abortion that its just removing a clump of cells and saying a normal healthy fetus is also just a clump of cells.
The way Pro-choice people debate feeds into Pro-life ignorance and then further conflates that ignorance as malice. Which is willful ignorance.
Most Pro-life people only care if abortion kills a developing human and if informed would vote for better laws with clearer language.
Thank you for being open-minded to new information. It means a lot these days, lol
it doesn't. this is an extreme simplification of most pro life laws. Read them, they allow removal of dead tissue or things that are not alive. To my knowledge this procedure is not an abortion as an abortion implies a fetus being removed
This is unrelated but I like your username "poopfard" /Gen
It's also worth knowing that the majority of abortions aren't that big a deal either. Nine times out of ten you take a pill that gives you a period and that's all that's necessary. It's never been some big graphic thing, it's generally just a quick trip to a doctor.
Bro being arrested for not wanting to die is just flat out evil
EXACTLY, THANK YOU
That’s not how it works while this is medically defined an abortion it is not legally an abortion
@@batman-hv9wp Did you listen to the video? It is legally defined an abortion but NOT medically.
@@silly_pikle they dont have ears brother
As a female I had no idea any removal was a abortion. This is such valuable information everyone should learn.
I finally see how clueless law makers really are about this subject.
@@aydenplaysthis and it's all disgusting men or christian monster-in-laws. even satan would be pro choice.
@@aydenplaysthis Let's not forget about, how Illy herself mentioned in the video, many of these lawmakers activelly presure their mistress to get an abortion when they get pregnant. So it's just straight up hypocrisy. Laws for thee, but not for me.
25 dollars and no Lily ?
Me neither. And I didn't know that lawmakers were willing to go such extreme and messed up lengths to prevent "abortion" even when it's NOT. This was really eye opening. Illy, you are very brave to tell us this. God bless you. I really hope you are doing better.
Thank you so much for sharing your story, Illysa. You have no idea how important it is to talk about these things.
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Hi!
No matter what side you're on, we can all agree that an "abortion" should be *redefined.*
I sure agree. It's so stupid that THIS isn't in the forefront of the abortion debate as it may be the only thing both sides could agree on.
@@sawderf741 it doesn't really matter if both sides agree on it though. The right to abortion, when put to a popular vote, has a 100% success rate thus far; the vast majority approved of Roe.
The people you have to convince are far right wing politicians; they already know, they have advisors that have told them. They don't care though, because they aren't ignorant, they're simply evil; they are objectively bad people that are throwing women under the bus for profit, simple as that.
You could educate them to the extent that they could earn a doctorate, it won't matter, monsters like them will still vote to sacrifice women.
I agree with this! A woman should have the right to her own body and health, especially if it is to safe their life!
I suppose that shouldn't be too difficult to do. Abortion = killing the baby. If removal results in death, it would be an abortion. If removal only results in the removal of an already dead baby, then it would not be abortion. Seems like the sort of thing that can be fixed fairly quickly. A lawsuit or two will likely fix it in due time. Law is often stupid, but stupid for "good" reasons. This law is stupid for no reason.
I agree that this should be the case, but sadly many people don't care or know and are malicious
The real kicker is that in many places now, not only do unborn foetuses and dead bodies have more bodily rights than a uterus bearing person does, but so do mutated cancerous tumours since the person has no rights to remove them
"Have more rights than a Uterus bearing person does"
Calm down with that Misogyny dude
@@norikofu509has anyone ever calmed down after you told them to "calm down"?
life hack: people actually calm down if you listen to them and try to understand their view point.
@@georgplaz Yes, yes they have.
Especially if you are telling them to Stop defending misogyny
@@georgplaz There is no life hack in letting people disrespect women, dude
"Uterus bearing person" what a way to call someone for what she is, A woman.
It’s really sad we have to sacrifice the living for the unborn. Banning abortion doesn’t stop abortions, it just stops safe abortions.
PREACH
It's really sad to see people need to sacrifice the lives of criminals to defend themselves. BAnning guns doesn't stop gun violence it just stops safe civilian handling.
@@Voightier Yet the US is the only country with regular mass shootings.
This is the mindset that made be start to accepting abortion. I was very much against the concept, I am against all forms of killing in general, and I just saw abortion as taking a kid you don't want and killing it.
Even now, I don't really see it as "ethical" (conceptually), but I fully accept it as a practice. It is only there to keep people safe, and having the option will ALWAYS be better than not having it. But it was not easy forme to see that before. The part of the video about the guys protesting outside the PP really made me reflect on the mindset I used to have in the past
@@Voightierdid you watched the video? Are you a woman?! If the answer is no to any of those you literally have no right to say shit
the fact that there are some situations where not getting an abortion could actually kill you, and these people are trying to stop it is disgusting
yep it's absolutely disgusting. But honestly a good chunk of the "pro-lifers" would be pro choice to an extent if they actually knew what procedures are considered abortions, but many of them would say fake news... so no reasoning there.
No they just value human life. part of pregnancy is dealing with the fetus growing inside of you. You then Have a responsibility to protect the life growing. This just comes with the consequences of getting pregnant.
Only things like what illy had can kill a woman. An embryo/fetus cant kill you
Real those same people will say it's ridiculous for 18 and under to adopt a child but will force them to birth one of something happens
@@sladespencer6776That includes those people that didn’t wanna get pregnant but are forced to.
And those laws don’t just affect pregnancy. It affects everyone.
This girl can’t catch a fricking break… eczema, pneumonia, asthma, autistic, struggling with mental health, and a horrible and early period..
She was also SA’ed in the past..
sounds somewhat similar to my life but instead ive had chronic ear infections/ strep, eczema, osteoarthritis, ADHD, on and off depression & anxiety, and SIBO. gotta love life
Women are so strong ❤️
This might seem dickish but do you think she might be lying at some points
Also adhd
This needs to be repeated until it finally sinks in. An "abortion" can include a miscarriage, it can include an embryo that has implanted outside of the uterus, it can include a fetus that has died and still remains in the womb, and it can include growths such as this one. Anyone who tells you "That's not an abortion" is either lying to you, or doesn't know the medical terminology they are talking about.
To those who think that the fact that the growth in this case turned out to be cancerous and not an embryo means it wasn't an abortion, remember that the doctor couldn't really tell that until it was removed and biopsied. It wasn't likely to be the case, since the author was very careful about using birth control, but it ot was still possible that it was a pregnancy gone wrong. The doctors would also have to provide proof that the tissue removed was not a fetus if the state chose to prosecute - which recent events suggest that they would.
This is entirely due to lawmakers using the blanket term "abortion" which is a medical term, and not widely understood by non-doctors. If the lawmakers wanted to clarify the meaning of "abortion", calling it an "elective abortion" perhaps, or "termination of a viable pregnancy' that would be a stsrt. But I speculate that pro-embryo activists don't want to use that language, because they don't WANT a mother to be able to terminate a non-viable pregnancy, or an ectopic pregnancy or one that threatens the mother's life. They WANT her to die. That wasn't pity she was seeing in those protesters. It was fanatics wanting to stone her for being a sinner.
I ain’t reading all that
And? @@kian5457
You're right but it's not that it isn't sinking in. It's that people straight up don't know.
I lost my baby at 16weeks. However my womb decided it didn’t want to let her go, and kept her soaking and rotting. I got so sick, and had to have an “abortion” because I was getting septic. I live in Ohio, and had this happened right after the overturn, I wouldn’t have made it. I had lost a little over half my body weight, and was throwing up so much it was making my throat bleed. Thank you for taking the time to tell your story.
I truly hope you feel better and have or will get through this
@@TimeIsShorterno you don’t, you aren’t human, quit pretending you are
Wow... I'm glad you're ok. I'm confident Ohio still would have given you the care you needed though. What you had should count as a high-risk pregnancy in which case Ohio allows abortion in those cases even with Ohio's heartbeat bill in effect. You should have gotten the care you needed regardless, but the trouble seems to be I've heard stories of doctors delaying treatment because they didn't fully understand the legal specifics of Roe v Wade being overturned. Hopefully doctors not understanding the law is very rare now that it's been over a year since Roe v Wade was overturned.
Considering Texas and Alabama also allow abortion in cases where the mother is at serious risk like with ectopic tubal pregnancies, I think we can all agree that the proper handling of a miscarriage, particularly in your case, is essential healthcare and that it's fair in legal terms to have the option to get an abortion if the doctor confirms a pregnancy is high risk (though it's also a heroic act to carry a high risk pregnancy to term if the baby can be saved if the mother wants to).
Side note: I've done a fair amount of research since I first saw this video about 4 days after it was posted. I have yet to see abortion defined as anything other than the termination of a pregnancy, I don't know where Illy got her definition from (11:33) let alone if it's true, because that would make treating uterine cancer illegal...
@@ThatGuyRNA okay troll
Sweet Jesus the human body is incredible and terrifying
I had a relative who got r@ped and was pressured by her Christian Mother to keep the child because she "will murder the child by abortion" and abortion is not allowed in my country. She did keep the child against her own will, she then committed s*icide 2 Years later because she couldn't handle being a mother at 14 Years Old...
Rest in Peace my best cousin Cassie❤
I still remember when we played so many board games back then😢
Wow...Rip.
I am so sorry
In cases like this, they should either flush the womb or simply remove the embryo and transfer it to the womb of someone who wants a baby
@@joshuaakintemi5396god if they could do that that would literally solve so many problems. Like instead of abortion you could just get the baby removed and put into someone else, or into an artificial womb. I hope that that is what ends the battle
Holy shit. Dude, she absolutely deserved to get an abortion. Mother at 14, and was raped?? :'(
For those saying that an abortion is not the same as what she described, simply look up D&C like Illy pointed out. "A D&C (Dilation and Curettage) is the most common method of early abortion." Even if you look past that, this video highlights the danger and negativity directed at not only women getting abortions, but also people like Illy who went through things like this. The people who protest, shun, shame, gaslight, or even attack those who so much as visit a planned parenthood are a danger for intervening in a person's private health.
I feel that of the mother isn’t in danger an abortion is cruel.
@parkergleason2212 you're entitled to that opinion, but you also don't have a right to invade on someone's privacy to determine that yourself. That's why I don't like it when people try to force that type of thing on people like the planned parenthood protestors. Then you have the people that will fight abortion even if it would kill the mother which... those people are just awful
@@parkergleason2212 So you telling me you would raise you would rather raise your children in hardship and poverty? And don't give me don't do it when you are not ready bull crap. You cannot be ready for life. You can be a successful person but you don't know what happens when an economic recession appears. Or a worldwide disease leads you to bankruptcy. Or the company just up and decided to fire you at a job that you have worked on for decades because someone just invented a brand new tech that outright replaced you. The only reason why you can say this is because you either lack life experiences or lack the empathy necessary to look down on those who are more unfortunate and feel bad for them.
@@parkergleason2212That's your moral opinion, but we aren't mothers. We aren't scientists. We are not qualified to control someone else's life.
Gosh, I’m a woman, and I’m so grateful to be in Canada where I can safely get uterine and reproductive care like this without the fear of being prosecuted. We are with you, all of you, and we pray that your government will come to its senses again. I’m so sorry this is happening. You deserve better.
Going to an abortion clinic in the conservative state I live in is disgusting. I wasnt even going for an abortion, I was there to support a friend who was lightheaded and needed someone to drive her. I got screamed at for being a murderer and a sl** and a wh***. But the worst thing I saw was a teenager who had clearly been crying alot getting harrassed. They called her an idiot, a wh***, a sl**, a b****. For making a mistake. Nobody yells at the boys. It takes two to tango. But no, it's only the women.
Thats literally a horror movie. Every single day i wake up and thank god over and over for not making me american. Im so so so so sorry for what your goverment is doing to your people
I fucking hate this abortion ban thing,and I'm not even american, it's that bad
Edit: Thanks for the 130 like y'all, means a lot
None of that is ok no one should be yelled at or insulted. I am always appalled at them. Just because I disagree and wish people reallt consider what it means to share their body with someone else doesnt mean I will ever in my life insult someone, harass them or call them names. That is most definitely not what I was taught
And on top of this, some of these women and raped! And they have to have that child?? The people who fought for our rights are probably frowning on what’s happening right now.
That's so awful. I cannot IMAGINE harassing a teenager at an abortion clinic. Obviously something has gone really wrong for her to be there. Isn't that enough??
Firstly, as Illy pointed out, many people go to "abortion clinics" for reasons other than abortion. Secondly, I'm pretty sure that it's a VERY TINY MINORITY of people who get an abortion flippantly. There are SO many people who feel forced into it, due to dangers to their own health or the health of the fetus, or knowing perfectly well that they are unable to care for the baby if they gave birth.
And people who are like "just put it up for adoption!!" INFURIATE me. It's so fucking ignorant. Healthcare in the US is extremely expensive, including childbirth - lots of people can't afford the medical bills even if they aren't keeping the baby. Pregnancy is also EXTREMELY hard on the mother's body, sometimes with lifelong consequences, which again means medical bills that they might not be able to afford. And more than anything, the foster care system in the US is absolute trash, there are so many thousands of children who can't find homes (I keep hearing stories about foster kids having to sleep in offices and in CARS because the system is so overwhelmed and there's nowhere else to go). Many more foster kids are tremendously abused - statistically way more often than other children - and statistically adult foster children are much more likely to end up homeless or in prison. It's fucking awful. Why would you think that's somehow better for the child OR the parents??
I feel like so many pro-life people believe that people get abortions and "end a life" on a whim, and it's simply not true... for the vast, vast majority of cases, abortion is an absolutely crushing decision, one that the person lives with for the rest of their life, but they feel they have no choice. In some cases, they really do have no choice.
And some people will be like "then just don't have sex!!!!!" Like abstinence-only education EVER works... we're human. Everyone makes mistakes. We shouldn't have to suffer lifelong consequences for making a mistake. Especially young people. And it's especially awful to inflict lifelong suffering on the potential child because their parent(s) made a mistake.
I just don't understand.
It's so sad this video ended up getting demonetized/not sponsored due to the "sensitive" topic. This was sincerely educational and is worth more than the 0 dollars (I'd imagine) you're getting from it. Why can't women's health be a "normal" topic?
Not trying to be a prude here, but they are getting superchats (willful donations). If you'd like to support them, you could do so by donating as well! :D
Not just women’s bodies, bud.
@@Cynical_Crow yes not just women’s bodies,but that’s the topic of this video. Because men do not have uterus,or the ability to have periods.
@@MoonWalkerOneTPOT men do have the ability to have a uterus and periods, what are you talking about???
@@funkytweekkkk I believe they aren't talking about trans men
as a biologically male person, my waist hasn't felt this uncomfortable in, ever.
I am so sorry for what you had to go through.
Same
Same
stfu she ain't noticing u
Biologically? Just say male man dont make it so complicatated.
Fun, true fact: I passed out for the first time in my life after watching this. That's hard-hitting journalism. Thank you for being willing to have the difficult conversations, it's crucial that they're digestible and accessible. Hope this helps you keep going ❤
People against abortion tend not to realize that the majority of abortions are either a) a situation like this or b) a miscarriage/complication of a pregnancy they wanted to keep. Banning abortion is primarily keeping it from people who need it to protect their lives, or people who are actively trying to have kids.
This is misleading. The majority of abortions are people saying they don’t want a kid and getting one. The situation you mentioned is 4%
Artemis you can suck this juicy sweet n salty garnish with cheese and sweat 🤓
Pretty sure no state is banning abortion for a legitimate medical emergency. I have a problem when it’s actively killing a healthy human zygote. In the event of this, it’s not a zygote, and in a miscarriage, it’s already dead.
This isnt abortion.
@@uggupuggu It is. Learn a definition first before you start making claims.
Crying rn thinking of those women in Texas who testified about how their babies were literally dying inside them and how they knew that the baby they were carrying was never going to have a life and how they couldnt let their baby die with dignity because some lawmaker wants to make Handmaid's Tale a reality.
Fascism is certainly on the rise.
Really those lawmakers have a pregnancy fetish
That's not what an ab****** is though, that's a similar surgery but if it's already a miscarriage then it wouldn't be that
@@divine555 u think old men writing this law will care about what exactly is an abortion
@@ALV694 idc either, it means choosing to k*// off a fetus, either because of it being forced or being unable to raise it, or several other reasons
As a guy. I just want to say. I’m so sorry you went through that. I hope you stay safe and healthy
Why specify your gender? Just curious
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As a guy i am a pro choice because how can you be mad that someone is just trying to get rid of something that could affect them badly or not wanted. Some are teens
The nurses and doctors at PP are some of the absolute sweetest people. They helped me for years with my birth control and even more so when I was going through a miscarriage. They were amazing, I wish I could give them something for helping so much.
same!! They have the best bedside manners!
I’m so sorry you had to go through a miss carriage. I hope that things are getting better through you! ❤️
Hi illy
I'm sorry that you went through a miscarriage hope all is well NOW!
@@TheRatKingOwO I'm pretty sure it was a tumor not a miscarriage
You are so brave to tell your story.
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So courageous 👍
It’s disturbing the way people treat women’s medical care
All stories are so powerful. Thank you for being this brave and sharing your experience. I almost died after giving birth to my 6 month old from an atopic pregnancy. Even being in CA I still barely survived. I almost didn’t exhist! To be a wife, to raise a son. It takes all of us to support each other!
As a guy, I am so sorry for all the women out there going through stuff like this, especially now given how the "men" in power apparently calls that to be abortion, which is so dumb.
As a man I say we put the power over women’s body’s in women’s hands
i mean the women know the risks
@@madlyjpso do the men who actively put a woman in that position. Birth control isn't 100% effective. That's like telling someone with skin cancer that they knew the risk when going into the sun so they shouldn't get treatment. It's stupid.
@@madlyjp🤓🤓
@@madlyjp Did you even watch the video?
My heart dropped every time I watched the news that related to abortions that women are dying, girls who is 13-17 are getting SA and can’t have a abortions cause of the laws, forced pregnancy to under age girls and grown women it’s so heartbreaking
@@zeke3620 that the point I said SA aka raped
So much for protecting the kids.
@@zeke3620 There is, but people forget that even THOSE types of conditions are restricted.
@@zeke3620do you know what SA means?
@@ricardoherrera8863 short for sexual assault
Ah yes, I remember when I got arrested for removing a tumour that was killing me on the inside. Fun times!
This is why i'm moving away from texas as soon as I can, not having a abortion can be life-ending I can't imagine this happening to me because then I would have no choice. You are a very strong woman!
I cannot believe we live in a country where women's reproductive health is threatened and jeopardized over a book.
A book that encourages the procedure in question, no less.
Cant beleive the same book lead to MGM and led to millions of baby boys being mutilated ⁿwⁿ
not even a book. people's random interpretations of a book that's been translated, passed down, tossed around, etc. it sucks fr
A biology textbook? Human life starts at conception my dude.
@@ruaraidh74so the conceived clump of cells is more important than the well-being of an actual person? Did you even watch the video
My sister had an abortion. The baby had no brain, the medulla was just flapping in fluid inside it's head. There was the tiniest, slimmest of chances that the baby would survive if born, but it would have been a vegetable hooked up to machines, would have been unable to grow, or do anything. Not to mention, the birthing process would have been incredibly difficult on my sister's body, due to the position the baby had grown in. There was a high chance she could have permanent damage, or even die, just to birth a baby that had a 99.99% chance of being still-born. So, she had an abortion.
What kills me is that, because of the state I'm in, if she had been born just 25 years later, and had lived the same life, and had gotten the exact same pregnancy...she would have been denied that procedure. Just because of the state she lived in.
Something a lot of "pro-life" people don't seem to understand is that this can be a lifesaving procedure, in so, so many ways. So, what they do, is they take away that choice, because of their own ignorance and refusal to even think about the possible consequences of their actions. I genuinely hope things turn around, and start getting better.
Im part of two groups. One of them is called Muslims Against Planned Parenthood, and the other is called Immigrants Against Planned Parenthood. What we do is that during the month of Ramadan, where we cant eat or drink anything, we stand outside of our local one (located in a city where over 65 percent of the population are immigrants or Muslims, so plenty of supporters), but their is one difference from the other protests. We are silent the whole time, we stand their quietly, for 8 hours, without uttering a single word. There have been multiple times where nurses have come out and told us to "go back to Taliban", times where patients would see us, and call us terrorists and bombers. One protester, a guy who escaped the Darfur genocide in Sudan, was seen by a 28 year old patient. She walked right up to him and punched him. She is in jail for assault. Police have ruled on our favor multiple times because we werent yelling anything, not screaming in peoples ears, just standing silently with signs. We have only done this for three years, but two in the St.Paul area have moved because of us, just because of some immigrants fasting holding signs outside. Its crazy.
WHA- what are you even talking about ?
Congratulations, that's
@@lawrupdo you not understand?
@@levicarnus1591 while thats a nice sentiment and all that a fetus isn’t a child yet most of the time abortions are carried out before the fetus has developed into something that could be viable
Perfectly explains that people need to not think about what is wrong with not having children and start thinking about the people that carry a uterus and how they feel!
as a male, i had no idea an abortion could mean a removal of any sort, however i still disagreed with the abortion law, my mother raised me right so i absolutely hated the fact the us government is doing that, im glad i live in Canada though because there are no restrictions on abortions here, but fuck the us man.
Yeah its sad, even the removal of a miscarried fetus thats dead is considered an abortion. I once even saw a news tag of how a woman who had a miscarriage and their fetus was already dead the medical staff didnt want to do anything because a recent abortion law passed in the state that made the removal of her dead fetus illegal and I believe she got quite sick from it
Damn you’re right, these rare cases should be an excuse for murder.
@@starrby7790 thats actually insane, fuck the usa
@@Imjustrightit isn't murder, quit calling abortion that. It doesn't make it true the more u repeat it FYI
@@snake94826 God bless the USA my homeland and the best place on earth 🗿🗿
I think as a country we need to read into bills more. Cause I never knew taking out a tumor counts as abortion.
It doesn't, u can look up the stautes of even the redest states in the union on their official websites, and even by legislation based definition Illy here did not have an abortion. This right here my dawg is click bait for brownie points
@@renegade_redfall26it literally was an abortion. Abortions are getting rid of unwanted things in the uterus
Yea, me niether. I thought law makers would be smarter than just putting down "anything remove from the uterus is an abortion, no matter what is being removed." but I guess not.
@@renegade_redfall26 Sooo you watched it to 11:14 and beyond?
Looking up articles talking about miscarriage care... yeah, a dilation and curettage could be considered by an utter dumbass as an abortion in some states. Solely because the legislature writing the law... are dumbasses.
@@AJOlesenthe issue is that these lawmakers want to get rid of planned parenthood and places that provide these procedures, so by getting rid of planned parenthood, not only are they getting rid of safe abortion, they're getting rid of the tons of other resources, help and procedures that planned parenthood provides.
Many of these abortion laws also want to arrest any doctors that provide abortions, so if the doctor that provided an abortion gets arrested, they won't be able to perform anything that isnt an abortion (which Illy briefly talked about in this video).
Also, while this might not be terminating a pregnancy, the same procedure is used, which would make it fall under an abortion.
Regardless if you believe in abortion or not, it’s upsetting to hear how difficult it was to get basic medical care.
(This is a small edit, but I meant to say whether you SUPPORT abortion or not. it is a real thing, and an on-going moral debate right now. There's been some good debate in the replies, but no mean-spirited comments are needed please. There's nothing intentionally malicious about what I said. We're all people who believe different things, tackling a very important issue. Bottom line is that Everyone deserves FAIR love and treatment. Period.)
Couldn’t agree more
regardless? the procedure that needed to happen **was an abortion.** basic medical care includes abortions.
Hey, just a minor thing about the way you phrased this. You said “believe in abortion”, and that implies that it is something that people choose to believe in, like Gods, or ghosts, or aliens. But abortion is very much real. What happens is that people choose whether or not they SUPPORT it.
American healthcare be like :
Here in Malaysia I am able to visit the doc whenever I feel like it
If you believe in abortion? xD I mean, it's not a paranormal phenomenon.
Hey illysa I have recently came across your autism video which I heavily related to and enjoyed (related to it due to my actual autism that I have been diagnosed with) and I’m very glad that you are finding happy and very well worded explanations on these topics. This one though… it must have been tough to talk about not only that but I can only imagine how it felt… I’m sorry that law makers are doing all this stuff and making it harder on not just you but all females who need to get that procedure to save their lives. I’m huge on pro choice and I just wanna say that despite everything that has happened… I’m glad that you chose what you thought was best and I just hope that later on, law makers figure out that what they think is an abotion isn’t always the case, and that people put in your situation sometimes need to get the procedure to continue to live a nice and enjoyable life! I’m sorry if this was a lot… but I’ll end it by saying, illysa, you’re doing awesome and I want you to know that you aren’t fighting these battles alone. There’s always someone willing to stand next to you and help you fight.
This is a really powerful story, I grew up Catholic with all these chants about abortion is murder, I never really understood what it was like, even though my mom had several. Thank you for opening up and educating people like me.
I really respect Illymation for talking about tough topics like this. Discussions about abortion are controversial but important
She's the only really popular youtuber I know of that actually dosent care what the topic is. I don't relate to most things at all but godamn was her Autism video so comforting
@@Jacksiloution She's really good at inspiring empathy and understanding of the circumstances she describes in her stories.
@andresomerville4896 And she dosent work around it, just gives it straight up but never makes it look negative. Giving hope
@@HiImPaul62no one likes abortions and gets them for fun but sometimes they're necessary. If you really care about children you should care more about good sex education and contraceptives because they help against unwanted pregnancies and fight for better financial support for low income families. Some people cannot afford to have a child for whatever reason and even if they don't want to keep it in the end it still takes a toll on the body for nine months. Yes a fetus is technically alive but it couldn't sustain itself outside the mother's body and just like I couldn't force you to donate blood even if people are dying of blood loss you can't force someone to give up the right to decide what happens to their body.
Abortions aren't nice or fun but unfortunately they're necessary, I hope you understand that
Too true.
Honestly, I'm mostly shocked that you were bleeding for months and they just shrugged and went "We'll try to pencil you in." Like, dude, a person was slowly bleeding to death and you didn't treat it as an emergency?! I'm glad you're okay.
Literally my exact thoughts
I can guarantee they didn’t have a choice. Plan parenthood has to deal with harassment, hate campaigns, bomb threats, and more. While it sucks, it’s more a problem with the state of the country than the hospital
There's so many people with so many problems it's just that hard to get an appointment sometimes.
The problem is that even before the overturning of roe v wade there weren’t a lot of OBGYN doctors, let alone facilities. It is a pretty niche path to go, and doesn’t pay that much. You have to be a special type of person to become and OBGYN after dedicating nearly a decade of school and then rotations, just to choose something that doesn’t maximize the money you make. There is a reason why a lot of pediatricians are older, because not a lot of young doctors want to be paid so little (relatively) after that huge investment.
@@RileyStroud99 this has nothing to do with roe v wade tho, she lives in fuckin california.
This is so powerful. Thank you for sharing and using your platform to give voice to those who are unable, and for a topic that is so important. I'm so glad you had access to the resources you needed and are safe and well!
the protest sign that said "I KNOW MORE THAN YOU" is hilarious to me! it really shows what protesters believe in a comedic way. GOOD JOB ILLY
This is just horrible, this is not murder, this is healthcare.
woops my brain is stoopid
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@@zomzomino ?
@@theodorington i mean that people should be allowed to get abortions
@@bring.back.the.owl.house4 OH SHIT I READ IT WRONG! I THOUGHT YOU SAID "THIS IS NOT HEALTHCARE, THIS IS MURDER"! IM SO FUCKING SORRY! I PROMISE IM NOT A CONSERVATIVE SCUM
Here in Australia we have "Safe Access Zones" outside of Abortion Clinics. This basically means that it is illegal to protest within 150m of an Abortion Clinic, or harass visitors to the clinic. These laws apply 24/7, 365. And it is fully illegal - if you protest outside a clinic they will call the police and you will get arrested! It's something that's really necessary that isn't talked about heaps, even in states in the USA where abortion is legal unfortunately :(
Yeah, I feel like here in the States if people tried to pass something like your Safe Access Zones into law, people would decry it as a "violation of free speech". It sucks here.
That’s horrible! I hope they ban abortion forever
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Hi Illy, I doubt you will see this but I had the same issue for years and I could never figure out the cause and I was too nervous to see a specialist.
After watching your video and realizing how similar my symptoms were to yours I finally got it checked.
I had surgery yesterday. I am really grateful for this video and I just wanted to thank you
Good job!!!😊
Thank you for being so open about your experience. I went through an abortion in January of 2022. I have never seen a story that was similar to my own. I did everything right and I went through an abortion completely by myself. Thank you. This made me feel less alone.
as a catholic male, this is very eye opening. we're taught in schools about how all life is important and that abortion is a terrible thing and people should be shamed for it. but its rarely put into the perspective of the girl choosing that abortion, and that it is a shallow black and white "abortion=bad and doing it will condemn you to hell." thanks for being open and willing to share this experience, as i think people need to take a step back and evaluate what they are protesting for, and how the people they are protesting against feel.
As a christian myself, those moment you realise that you're living in a illusion because somethings your community has taught to you is wrong are not rare. Unfortunally, people are ignorant(not knowing of the other) and don't wanna seek the others part of the story, never knew what are the others argumment. I think you've heard of Plato, but re-read the Plato's cave and try to rethink even the most little prejudices and judments you have in your life, you see how Mattew 7 is not followed by anyone
Thank you for being willing to listen. ❤
abortion bad because it kills human beings. The lady did not have an abortion. Zero states consider what she did an abortion.
That's cuz the people who support abortions tend to lump stuff like ovarian cysts and uterary tumors in with _actual living human babies_ !!!
By God people, if you just made your definitions clear NONE of us would be arguing.
My mom had three womb complications before I had to be born.
Remember, the Bible skipped over Bacteria, and Helicentrism and quantum physics for reason, it was never meant to be the end all be all, and people get that twisted a lot. It's important to learn how to love beyond its pages in order to become the person God actually wants you to be
This subject shouldn't be de-monetize but talked more publicly, so more people have knowledge to get medical help, it's so absurd that women are supposed to stay quiet about periods and uterus, and to endure pain quietly
W for the donate
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U guys realize 100 rupees is 1.25$ american?
@@Fbih2o weird question but okay
I was very moved by your story, and I'm glad you're telling it and advocating for access to safe care for everyone. I thankfully never dealt with protestors or anything at my local Planned Parenthood growing up, but they were an absolute lifeline in high school when things like *buying my own condoms at the store* or *setting up an STI test with my doctor through my parents* were not very viable options. Bless everyone working at PP, they are providing the care and guidance that so many young people don't otherwise have access to.
i had an early term miscarriage and went through an abortion via pills because the tissue was borderline necrotic and could have killed me. my mil at the time judged me for getting the pills for it while still concerned about my health. it was horrible having her judge me while i was trying not to die even if she didnt intend to. top that on the fact i was devastated from learning i was not able to bring my child to term, it was an emotional nightmare. i had done everything in my ability to stay healthy and do the right things to protect the baby, but it wasnt meant to be. Roe v Wade protected all women who needed procedures like mine, but now that its overturned, many women will either be dying or getting back alley care that could lead to them dying anyways in states that make it illegal/inaccessible thru legitimate health care facilities.
Thank you for sharing your story Illysa, hopefully with the sharing of stories more people will become aware of the dangers of this overturn
I was already pro choice before watching this video but I have not been aware that just a medical procedure to remove anything from your uterus, fetus or not, could be considered an abortion. The fact that these governments are so ignorant about the fact that there are people out there with real medical problems that would really benefit from these surgeries and really try their best to stop them, is terrifying.
It is. and I oppose that. Yet I'm still pro life
@@ricardoavacado3901It's not pro-life, it's anti-abortion, if you cared about life you would know how important an abortion is
@@mischiefmelody I vote we not jump to thinking of this in absolutes...
I can see how what people think of when they think "abortion" could be considered murder but "emptying the uterus for any reason" shouldn't be the legal definition of anything made illegal ever.
because as this video points out that definition could still describe needing to remove anything from a uterus:
cancer removal? BANNED!
something that got stuck in there removal? BANNED!
miscarriage and this little corpse will calcify (get covered in bone material as a protective measure by your body but the horrifying terror of a dead body inside you is still there) and it could slowly kill you but you need it removed so you don't DIE?
BANNED!
there's nothing "pro-life" about that.
It could never Be considered an abortion, Jesus
"We ban the removal of parasitic worms from the uterus because the worm deserves the right to life too. Goddammit!"
America: Were free!! Its a free country!!
Also america: NO ABORTION EVEN IF YOU WILL DIE WITHOUT IT
Literally why I hate America
Everyone
Means
Everyone
Not specific people
EVERYONE
@@jamyor1411 Liberté, égalité, fraternité
The abortion bans do include excemptions for risk to the mothers life...
The ban in place was to prevent the most common type of abortion, which according to self reporting is out of convenience.
Your "freedom" never included the right to end another human life, because that's imposing your will on anothers freedom.
@@danke1150Whether or not something is "human" is a philosophical question and shouldn't be involved in the law.
Thankyou for giving your story and perspective on this unique experience a lot of other women go through and for flushing out this sensitive societal topic. Hope this is one grand step to wake up the lawmakers on capital to how important this procedure is for so many other women out there dealing with the same situation as you.
If those politicians who supposedly care about kids, extended that to kids who are outside the uterus, they would at least have some kind of misguided morality. But they don't. They vote against welfare, medical care, and even free kids lunches for kids who need them.
Glad everything turned out okay in your case, lots of other women in the states you mentioned are suffering.
Man, people can be really messed up sometimes.
If those politicians who supposedly care about kids, extended that to kids who are outside the uterus,
-You realize it's a felony to kill a child that's outside the womb, right? It's already highly punished.
They vote against welfare,
-Why? Their reasoning isn't the same as yours, the reason they oppose it is under the grounds that that dependency does no one any good.
Penalty for abortion: Death penalty
“Pro life,” huh?
Yea, cause they committed murder. Guessed you missed that fact.
More like pro pain
@@s-wmy guy, that baby ain't alive, it doesn't have memories and untill you can form memories your practically not alive since a human being is a collection of all their total memories
@@s-wYou should make a meal out of some sleeping pills and give the gene pool a rest.
@@s-wIf you believe abortion is murder and that murder is wrong, yet want a woman to be murdered for it than you're no better. practice what you preach
Everyone should have access to medical care. Banning safe abortion will just make unsafe abortion more common.
Yeah, it's like prohibition, it won't stop the problem, but just make it go underground, which doesn't have the same regulation's and safety
Banning abortion also makes pregnancy unsafe.
It's really upsetting seeing comments on this video that think it's acceptable for women to die due to pregnancy and child birth because that can be a consequence.
This is a friendly reminder to VOTE! Vote the politicians who do this out of office. VOTE VOTE VOTE! Don’t let someone else decide your fate. Don’t vote for third part, they will never make it into office and it’s just a free vote towards republicans (the party that is against women’s rights and abortion). Please vote, not just for the next president but for your local politics as well.
and spread this video to help other decide on how to vote ♥️
Thank you so much for sharing your story. I felt the pain and fear you experienced, especially due to the Roe v Wade overturn. As a cisgender female who experiences horrid periods and different pains that multiple doctors can’t explain, I fully heard you. I hope you’re staying safe. ❤️
As a Christian, the anti abortion protesters mortify me. I am so sorry for all the so-called followers of Christ that scream in women's faces about abortions. While abortion is a last-resort thing for me, I would NEVER tell anyone what they could or could not do with their bodies. Especially since Planned Parenthood saved my mom's life when they found that she had cervical cancer. PP offers so many wonderful health services as well as affordable contraception, and I would love to see more clinics set up around the country.
I'm not Christian, but I can understand the feeling of knowing how wonderful it can be following a faith you treasure and how some people will twist and exacerbate ambiguous or questionable aspects of faith for the sake of cheap politics. I have met some of the most kindest and open minded individuals who love being Christian and take pride in it while appreciating diversity in human spirituality, values, goals and lifestyles. I am also sorry that you feel mortified. You have no need to claim them as a part of your community as they do not represent you. Peace and respect.
There should be more Christians like you
@@vigneshnehru9822 Thank you for being understanding. I don't claim them at all. Health is health and it is none of my business. My job is to love people no matter what their life circumstances are. Everything can be forgiven and loved through.
@@FrogboiTobee69 Thank you ♡ I'm really trying to find good believers and recruit more believers. But only if they want to be found and recruited. 🥰
Practicing conscientiousness of faith is a good thing. Religion has no basis in the state, and should never.
What kind of claptrap bullshit is going on down there in America? The DEATH PENALTY for abortion???? That's just wild to me. The fact that somebody even *suggested* that is absurd.
Trust me, whoever suggested THAT dang idea deserves the Death Penalty themselves. Most likely the idiots at office and all those Life-idiots. If anything, they need to see what women go through in their lives, and then once they dang do, they’ll regret this, and I’ll make sure they will. I’m guessing USA is tearing itself apart, and I’m starting to think of Moving to Canada when I graduate so I don’t end up in a fricked up country.
I agree, we should cut off all the balls of the American Supreme Court
and they spew that they are a "free country " 👍
That's cuz the people who support abortions tend to lump stuff like ovarian cysts and uterary tumors in with _actual living human babies_ !!!
By God people, if you just made your definitions clear NONE of us would be arguing.
@@quetzel3564where do I sign
She’s been through so much I feel bad :(
It's crazy how helpful abortion is when it doesn't particularly target removing a pregnancy. My mother had to get one because her (planned) pregnancy formed into a tumor, and she could have died if she didn't get it removed. That is exactly why abortion should not be banned. It saves lives more often than it "kills".
Abortions happen in the first weeks anyways because that's when the Fetus isn't even considered a baby or anything alive.
I think the most vile thing about the protesters in front of plan parent hoods is 99% of them will try to approach you. Pretend like they understand your fear and pain, explain that you do have options but that the ONLY RIGHT and MORAL one is keeping the thing growing inside of you. And even thinking about choosing another then turns you from a victim into a monster.
Planned Parenthood and Pro-life protesters shouldn't have the right to protest, all they do is disrupt the peace and care that women need. It's no different from holding the confederate flag in publics. Its just like hate speech
I'm sorry but like babies are so weird they frigin grow inside of you..
Wth😂
Also yeah I totally agree with you
@@hothdog or they could not have to be forced into 9 months of hell….
@@hothdogyou know a lotta people don’t even get the opportunity to give the kid away, since they die trying to give birth
@hudthod mmmmmmm yeah you know absolutely nothing
Her admitting she was on birth control ever since the age of 15 was just powerful and that she was open enough to say it to the public. You have my utmost respect illy!..
Birth control shouldn’t be called birth control honestly. It should be something like hormone control or something similar
@@Weeniehutnurse agree because it doesnt only control birth but periods too
I agree but she actually was on it for period issues as she says in her video on periods
...why...exactly? Lots of women and girls are on birth control, and start at a young age for many different reasons. When I was a teenager many girls I knew were on it and it wasn't because we were all sexually active. Get that stigma out of your head.
I've been on birth control for hormone related reasons since age 14, and people look at me differently when I tell them I'm on birth control if the topic comes up. It's very weird that it has such a stigma around it
Thank you for sharing your experience. In Sept 2022 I was excited to expect my 2nd baby only to go into my 8w ultrasound and discover the baby didn't have a heartbeat. I was given 3 options, to wait, take a pill or have a D&C...I chose the surgery because I had to return home ready to take care of my son. After everything was done and I read the surgical report labeled "abortion" I could never unsee it...
Most unfortunate, sorry that happened. Hope you're better now
@eliasjakemoran6434 Thank you, as traumatic and heartbreaking as it was I've recently found peace with it and I'm forever grateful that I got my sunshine baby before my loss.
I want to hear more of people’s stories. I knew abortion has always been a tough topic but I didn’t know the laws were this cruel. I never agreed with the overturn and the fact that this happened is sickening. Please share your stories and make people aware.
I’d also love to receive some sources on “abortion” and do further research. I think it’d also just be great for a lot of people here to help them learn more about this.
With respect, and without appealing to theology, abortion isn't nearly as difficult a subject as it's made out to be. For starters, what do you mean when you, personally, use the the term, "abortion?"
@@TheLegendOfRandy well if ur a governor it means removing any tissue from the uterus 💀💀💀
But to me- well it isn’t really a tough topic that’s because I personally believe life begins after birth but some people differ. No one truly knows when life begins. Not even a scientist. So it really depends on belief. It varies per person- some people are for full pro life others are full pro choice while some people fall in between. Actually MOST people fall in between. It’s why I lean towards pro choice because it all depends on what you believe. Plus someone put it like this. Once in America they tried getting rid of alcohol. That obviously didn’t work- people still got it no matter what. It’s why I lean towards more of a pro-choice because it’s what you believe in.
Abortion shouldn’t be a tough topic but a lot of people make it to be and really, I was just trying to appeal and respect to those who DO find it a difficult topic.
It's sad that abortion is being treated as an unholy thing. People might need it because of their age, wealth, family, etc. If any of my family gets an abortion child or not, I wish for the best of them.
Maybe if they don’t have money they shouldn’t have unprotected sex or sex out of wedlock. More money should go to sexual education and family education. Stupid excuse. Condoms are already free most places or little to nothing. Excusing murder for people who didn’t use their brains(not talking about rape victims) is pathetic.
@@EM-ly5izCondoms break sometimes. What then? There’s always a possibility things can go wrong.
@@EM-ly5iz I agree with you dude
@@EM-ly5izYou'd be surprised just how many people don't know about comdons or how to put one on. And not many are curious enough to search up on Google "what's a comdon"
@@EM-ly5izas clearly stated in the video, you can use condoms and be on birth control and still become pregnant. you can be as careful as possible and sometimes accidents happen. believe me, choosing to have an abortion is not an easy decision and it of course shouldn’t be taken lightly but at the end of the day it is always the mother’s choice. if you don’t agree with abortion, then don’t get one. it’s as simple as that. but don’t shame the women who have to make that heavy decision.
The difficult sensation of being glad someone is ok but knowing many others are not.
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@@starry.nightss you can tell my sense of humor is weird when one single word made me laugh
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@@AlpineTheTherianthe pee pee poo poo man
@@tjmonkey5795 what
As a trans-fem (Biological male) I never truly understood what women have had to go through, internally, externally nor socially.
You produce such valuable information like this that more people need to hear and be taught.
Thank you for sharing your story and teaching your audience this!
So your a man
@@user-jw2rb3pj9vshut up, she isn’t. Op, don’t listen to transphobes and keep being positive :)
@@user-jw2rb3pj9v Congratulations, you understand basic biology
@@eliasjakemoran6434tf does badic mean?
@@chlowormy basic*
Wowie so much to say about this video. First off I want to thank you for being brave enough to come through with this story to educate people on this subject through your experience. Even though I am AMAB I can at least sympathize with the trauma that going through this frightening situation amidst the turbulent political climate around this issue. Also, and anyone who hates me for saying this can go fuck themselves, even if this had somehow been a fertilized egg cell I personally would support whatever your decision was as it's best for you and you seem like you would have made at least an educated decision based on the matter. I'm also super glad that the protestors were non violent when you went for your appointment.
It's situations like this that cause me to be undecided if I'm "Pro Life" or "Pro Choice." With how complicated of an organ as the uterus can be I'm not confident if this is a failure due to language, medical education, legalese or all three but I do agree that it's something the law really shouldn't have any say in. The term "abortion" is really to broad of a term. While I will never support a woman who through her own decisions got pregnant decided to not carry the baby through to term even when she was medically capable of doing so especially after a heartbeat has already developed in the unborn life. I can accept that is not the only reason a woman would get an "abortion." Regardless of the circumstances of having the abortion I don't believe anyone outside of the sperm donor, the woman, and her doctor should have any say as to whether or not someone has access to a potentially life saving operation. This is such a messy legal situation and, unfortunately, I feel things will get worse before they get any better. You sharing this story I feel is definitely a step in the right direction and I again want to thank you for doing so. I hope you're not receiving too bad of community backlash about this. Wishing you the best, stay healthy, educated, and strong!
As a man, I am absolutely disgusted that people actually think they can dictate what other people do with THEIR OWN BODYS! Like what the hell?! If I were a girl, and I got raped or something, I would absolutely get an abortion if I didn’t want to keep it.
Right! Who would want to keep the genetics of someone who raped you! And even if you do some people may not be ready! I’m glad that people are fighting against the anti-abortions
Oh be quiet. Yes God dictates what you do with your body. You dont decide your baby's fate. If you got raped and you did not want the child. Put it up for adoption. Most abortion cases are not rape but for no reason at all. Speak about the majority of abortion cases instead of a portion. Life begins at conception, abortion takes after conception. Therefore abortion is murder. "Their own bodies" it isnt your body. It is Gods body. God owns you.
People are just so messed up man, all I could do is cope with it
What are you talking about? You're dictating what other people can do with their bodies right now with that statement.
@@ruaraidh74 Not really
Now that I think about it, “pro-life” is a terrible name for a group of people that is against people living
Yup. I call them anti-choice.
@chris_freaky305 exactly, because that's what they are
I have seen stickers that say pro god, pro life, pro gun. Its also gives me an awkward chuckle. Ones of these is not like the others.
@@icantthinkofahandle1rape extremists
Pro-birth, not pro-life
Society is messed up. Abortion isn't 'murder'. I hate how people just assume when someone has an abortion, it is to remove a baby and then attack you for it. Another thing I don't like is when someone is so selfish that they bring a baby into this world that will have to undergo so much medical stuff just to live to the age of 5. I support anyone who has an abortion, as I do not know what they go through.
YES IT IS YOU BABY KILLING PYCHO
@@stripyd007bro why do you even watch these videos?? All of your comments are just hating on her
plot twist i didn’t actually watch it. @@kokichikinnie2309
I mean, “anyone”.
@@stripyd007HOW IS @ilovebengalsandfood A PSYCHO AND HOW THE ABSOLUTE FUCK WOULD THAT COUNT AS MURDER, ITS THEIR BABY NOT YOURS AND ITS THEIR CHOICE FOR ABORTION NO MATTER IF ITS A FETUS/NEWBORN OR SOME OTHER ISSUES REGARDING THE FEMALE SEX ORGAN, BUT YET THOSE SHIT HEADS STILL DECIDE TO DEFEND SOMEONE ELSES NEWBORN NO MATTER WHAT DESPITE THAT NEWBORN SIMPLY BELONGING TO THAT PERSON ACCEPTING ABORTION AND NOT THE ONES THAT ARE LITERALLY MAKING A BIG ISSUE ABOUT IT LIKE SERIOUSLY WHAT THE FUCK. HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF SOMEONE DIES JUST BECAUSE THEY HESITATE TO ACCEPT ABORTION DUE TO ALL THIS BULLSHIT GOING AROUND. THIS IS OUTRIGHT UNACCEPTABLE.
As someone who is currently going through something similar I really needed this thank you so much for sharing. I'm feeling much better about this situation.
As someone from the UK, I had no idea it was this bad, and I am beyond horrified
It’s getting bad. Please try and educate yourself more on this and convince others to, because of this point we need outside help as well.
It’s not bad, it’s only bad for the >95% of people who want to kill the result of their poor decision making. Obviously you can get surgery to remove something from your uterus that isn’t a baby; saying otherwise makes about as much sense as saying that the earth is flat. It’s mind blowing that everyone blindly believes this idiotic story with 0 proof of anything she’s saying
@@humanthing5709 an abortion is removing an alive baby from your stomach. Removing a blockage or tumor is not an abortion. It may be considered that but it is not. You May say Women get raped. Proven fact 1% of thee woman who get abortions is from rape. Thee rest? Because they like to do it for fun. If you do not want a baby don’t reproduce period. God loves you
Funny how the actual threats against democracy gets overshadowed by distractions like "woke" and "pronouns", eh?
Same I mean this infuriated me when It was happening and so I did my research about different states and their abortion rights/punishments as well as arguing with countless, clueless anti-choicers but u had no idea dl how many things could be classed as an abortion
When I was 12, i had an 11 year old classmate who was r**** by a family member of hers, and had a regnancy as a result. She had been too afraid to tell anyone, and by the time she did, the timeperiod in which someone is allowed to have an abortion was almost over. The thing was, her body was not ready for a pregnancy, she had been getting sicker and sicker as time passed, and was probably close to dying by the time she finally confessed. She was lucky that this happened 8 years ago, and that we live in a country that isn't as idiotic to refuse a dying child to abort their unwanted r*** result. But I can't imagine what some other places might have done to her. Imagine an 11 year old getting punished by some idiots over this. People who're "pro-life" and don't even take into consideration who the mother is, or what the pregnancy in question is doing to her, are very much not "pro-life". They're "pro-death" if you ask me.
@@Jeccanyeah but these laws only pretend to be pro life in reality they are pro control
They really are pro death. If you ask them “Would you rather get an early abortion if the baby inside you was slowly killing you and would cause the baby to die as well.” Most of them would say “I would rather die than to kill it.”
How can you be pro life if you’re willing to kill yourself AND your fetus for “moral” reasons.
Don’t even get me started on the women who refuse to get C-sections and tell people they would rather die than to “fail” as a mother not being able to give birth naturally 🙄
@@Jeccan yes, and they deny, fervently, that the risk exists because "if she can get pregnant her body is ready for it" which explains the frankly terrible state of the minimum age for marriage in the USA (parent's rights. If you google it be ready to feel very sick.)
Pretty much this, people that are pro life tend to see only past the tip of their nose, they don't realize that sometimes it's medically necessary for women to have abortions. Or in this case an "abortion" to remove growths from the uterus.
I feel so sorry for her that’s disgusting that that happened to her at a young age
Women should be able to have the choice to not die.because of these terrible laws some women are being forced to go through a slow and very painful death and that to me is inixcudable
It's so messed up that the people who are making all of these decisions for the people who are THE OPPOSITE GENDER just because they view something as “murder”. You don’t know the situation they’re in, you don’t know if they’re old enough. Maybe they aren’t financially stable enough, maybe they don’t have anyone to raise it with. As someone who’s mother almost died because of a very close miscarriage, this angers me. She told them that she wasn’t doing well, the hospital told her they were doing everything possible but at the time, abortion was illegal…
But… Would you be Ok with killing the young baby, after it was born? Because many view that as being no difference between the 2. In that case, the mothers feeling doesnt have that much to say
@@ProfessorPrela fetus and a baby is to diffrent things, i Think killing a baby is wrong but getting an abortion agianst a fetus isnt in my opion but i would love to hear more about the abortion is murder bc Im curious on Where you guys draw the Line? Bc What if a 13 year Old Girl was r*ped? And it not her fault shes pregnant should she still have the child?
@@Avyan_123 While some people draw the Line at the moment of conception, I think that the Line goes more of the first couple of weeks. So if Someone do Get assulted, they can just go an take a contreception pill. Most states that ban absortion it is still allowed before 6 weeks, because it usually takes a couple weeks to Even realise you are pregnant. But where do you draw the line?
@@ProfessorPrel be fucking for real, nobody is saying that a baby and a fetus are the same thing you caveman
Not sure why you think it has anything to do with being the opposite gender (unless you're sexist?). Women make up the majority of pro-lifers. Also, nothing you said justifies killing human beings so I'm not sure what you want me to say lol
Its so fucked that people hush this topic its one of the most important things with girls health so thank you illy for bringing attention to this topic and not hushing it like the others
Exactly
fr. people treat periods as its some sexual thing. as if its taboo or some hush hush topic. periods are literally the least sexual thing about puberty 💀
@rima_hooman2372 nah what you talkin bout, a period has got to be the most sexual thing. Only thing more sexual is someones uncovered shoulder!
@@Mr_Moose115 LMAOO 😭
@@rima_hooman2372 I think people think that is because it has to DO with the sexual organs. That might just be what I think that people might think about it.
as a male i've always found it weird that female reproductive health is such a taboo topic, like people are afraid to talk about it in public, people are afraid of showing sanitary products in public. It's insane. I mean sure its a little gross and weird, but lets be honest, what isn't. I have no problems with discussing it, even in public, nobody cares, nor should anybody care, its an important topic with valuable information that should be known by more people, even if not applicable to those persons.
It's insane to me that in America, land of the supposed free, that people aren't able to do whats best for them simply because of legislation. What a wacky time to live in.
Exactly finally another guy who gets it
Human bodies are gross in general. Yet everyone acts like it so such a shocking thing. I will never get it 😅
Taking it from a Medical History standpoint, women's health in general has been overly ignored, simply categorized as being "Hysterical," among other things. So for female reproductive health being seen as a taboo topic is potentially just a trickle down of Medical History giving little attention to women's health over men's health. It's a shame really, but one we have to do our best to overcome and make something that isn't a taboo topic
@@lolineko2083 yeah, testicular and prostate cancer are particularly important issues for men, and while not particularly hidden, its still not all that common to talk about in the open all that much.
It's just an issue in general though prominently focusing on female health unfortunately.
@@aidanjackson5084 yeah, really the only thing we can do about it at this point is just start talking about it openly more and more, eventually it will make its way into education, either through word of mouth or legislatively.
early to mid 1900s medicine is quite funny sometimes, particularly neurological medicine. I'd have to double check but i have a slight recollection of there being a box specifically designed for "hysterical women" which is the funniest shit ever. "is your woman hysterial? Simply put her in a box!"
whether it actually does anything is uh, debatable at best.
Anyone who watched this and somehow concluded that the unborn fetus is entitled to killing its mother or changing the course of the livings life forever more against their wishes?
Most fertilized fetuses die on their own. Most. More unborn die than live, before abortions are even account for. Pregnancy is a minefield of life risking consequences and no your outlier relative who survived a dozen children does not disprove that. Facts are facts and there is not fact that entitles a slightly larger clump of cells that could eventually become life to greater freedom than the living. Because those billions of sperm cells dying in your balls every month? The eggs that dont get to roll the dice? They'd eventually become life too.
Practice your beliefs with your own person, if you actually care about the unborn in the first place. The lack of support for adoption, education, and healthcare for children and mothers in america sure makes it clear that the vast slice of this horde do not care. Let alone rejecting the impact sex ed, healthcare, and contraception have on abortion.
It’s so sad that we clump such a large group of women together and assume that they are all trying to murder a fetus instead of considering the fact that different people have different circumstances. Someone may have been abused and couldn’t sustain a child. Someone could’ve had a disease that would kill the child or themself. Someone could be developing a tumor. Or someone could not want to have a child. Everyone is different. Every body is different. We can’t assume we know what’s going on with someone else because of one persons experience or our own because we are different. Let’s remember that we can’t take away someone choice. That’s what America is supposed to represent, freedom, we can’t take it away because we clump a group of people together and label them the same. Spread love and don’t judge. ❤
Planned Parenthood saved my life. Parents died when I was 22 and left me without medical insurance or money. I was able to get medical care there
Planned Parenthood is a G fr, it's a shame people stand at the place and harass people for just trying to get healthcare.
im sorry about your losses, I'm glad you were able to get medical care
As a guy I think it's a good thing to learn what women have to go through for this sort of stuff
If only the guys making the horrible laws would take that advice
absolutely, education about these things is so important
Same her video’s make me understand what women go thru and it’s very helpful for future life (example like if someone is going thru say a period I’ll know how to help them and comfort them)
As a women, that's all we ask. We don't want sympathy really, just understanding. I'm not in the US personally, but even here women's anatomy and health are stigmatized as "sexual" or "indecent". They don't teach about periods, much less this stuff, until it's way to late. Some girls can get them before they even hit 10 ffs. Sorry for the semi-rant, but it really is just refreshing and nice whenever a guy, regardless of if they're a friend, partner, family, whatever is willing to listen and help without being grossed out or viewing it as sexual.
And that’s all women want and need.
Removing polyps are considered abortion now?
It always was.
@@ItsCamille735im pretty sure abortion is canceling pregnancy
12 year old dude here, not my subject to discus but, living in a house with only women (aside from my dad), when my sister got her first period, I saw the "Cool aid" and got replacement sheets, soup, grilled cheese, and 35oz of iced tea, and I left her alone and refilled her drink every now and then, now my family always jokes about either I will be the best BF or the most traumatized!
Arl bye!
thats such a cute story. keep rocking! :)
Women's menstrual and overall health needs to become much more common knowledge. Peoples' ignorance is astounding.
I really don't get why people are so hush hush about it, It's great knowledge to have and thinking it's too gross to teach people is "preschooler who cant say swears" type of dealio. Teenagers ESPECIALLY need to know, yet they do not, since they're going through it already.
Bodily functions, people have killed themselves and others because they don't know jack diddly squat about periods, teach boys too. Ignorance is never bliss.
I think MOST kids and teenagers know what this is...just saying😅
@@malachiarthur8203you’d be surprised how many kids think pee comes out of the same hole as a baby
@@raton5810 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I had read a comment somewhere on Tiktok that a woman had found out she was pregnant while in therapy for cancer and in her state she would have to stop the treatment even if the baby might not make it anyways with her current health issue and she herself might die. That broke my heart and I think about it a lot, I’m so thankful I live in a place where abortion is considered a necessary medical treatment.
That is so fcked up. I will never understand anyone who supports this knowing that this is the kind of thing that will happen. Like this isn't a Sims game we are real people with real needs
I hope she's okay, nobody should have to go through something so messed up
Except that didn't happen, read the laws
I remember a decade ago, a girl in...I want to say the Dominican Republic (? could be getting the country wrong, idk what abortion laws there are/were like) had leukemia and was getting chemo for it. Then they found out she was pregnant, and stopped the chemo because it could potentially cause her to miscarry, which would legally be considered an abortion since it caused the end of the pregnancy. She died a slow, painful death from the leukemia because the treatment was withheld from her. And no, the baby was never born, she died while still pregnant. Fuck laws like this.
@@rockweirdo8147 it takes two seconds to google things and find out this absolutely has happened post-roe.
I hope you’re feeling better now!
Unlikely 😔
I find it shocking that it is legal to harass people going into an abortion clinic. For reference, in Austria (and I imagine many other European countries) it's not
The craziest thing to me is that in some states you can’t adopt a child until you’re a legal adult and financially stable enough to take care of the child, but you’d be forced to give birth no matter your age. “You can’t adopt a kid at 13, but you sure can give birth to one!!”
Like it just doesn’t make sense to me!!
Can't get a lawyer for a divorce at 13, but you married at that age
Some states don't have minimum ages for marriage
And a lot will pause divorce proceedings if there's a pregnancy until after its born and paternity testing is done.
Each is horrible, but combine them 😥
@@f00lzy you should not have to donate a kidney to a cancer patient, you should not have to donate your body and your future
That's the US. NOTHING MAKES SENSE! I hate living here. When I find a healthcare provider that I can rely on outside of the US I told my family I'm moving out and never coming back.
@@f00lzy why do you care more about the unborn cells then a real human being?
@@f00lzyAbortion isn't murder.......
I was in Georgia when I had my miscarriage. That was when GA was saying that it would mean jail time for any woman that miscarried. I was so scared when my miscarriage started that i didnt go to the hospital. I stayed home and gave birth to my tiny 2 inch baby boy that definitely didnt develop correctly (his legs were together from his knees to his feet). I was alone and was in horrible pain. I barried him in a small box. I bleed for maybe 2 straight weeks. I thought i was going to die. Luckily, i went back home to kentucky a few months later and got checked out by my OBGYN and i had a complete miscarriage (meaning no tissue was left inside to rot and kill me). Most women are not as lucky, my body was able to expell all of my baby's tissue. I didnt need a D&C.
oh my god... im so sorry you had to go through that 😨
That sounds so wrong... I've heard an expert pro-life advocate say in a podcast that early delivery via induced labor is legitimate, you deserved to have had that option in Georgia's hospitals.
Wow...
The same thing happened to me. I was in Utah. I was told not to come seek care unless I was “dying” and then they could help me. I bled for about 2 weeks too and was one of the lucky ones that didn’t have anything left behind.
thats so, so awful. i'm so sorry. that must have been so traumatic.
Thank you for sharing this. So sorry that US folks have to deal with this dangerous nonsense from lawmakers, it's honestly terrifying to watch. Governments are meant to protect their citizens, not treat you this way.
I remember in 6th grade we were asked the question on our opinion on Abortion and if we could, what would we do about it. Answers were thrown back and forth, "We should end it." or "Abortion is wrong." When It got to my turn to speak, I said nothing because I knew that whatever reality I said about it, everyone including the teacher would turn against me. I would be sent to the principal ect. So, I stayed quiet. Nothing came out of my mouth about it. Thinking back on it now, I really feel like they shouldn't have asked 6th GRADERS a question like that. The reason why is because those teachers knew the answers the kids would have given. "End it" Or "It's wrong." The teachers respond, "Yes, exactly. " (Yes, these are FEMALE teachers.) But give them an answer like, "But it depends, it could save your life!" Then you would be looked down on, sent to the principal, and then be questioned for why you chose that answer.
But since I moved schools, my current one is a lot better. I asked people who have been there longer than I have and they tell me that abortion was never talked about like how it said above.
i’m sorry the sponsor decided to not be featured and that the video was demonitized. it’s so important to educate people on their options and how their body works, thank you for being brave enough to share your story with us
As a male, I strongly believe that abortion is a very important tool for women to have. It's healthcare, it's their body, and they should have the choice on what they wanna do with it no matter the reason. Someone told me once that they probably wouldn't be here today if it weren't for abortion, and they could of died during giving birth, and in turn, the baby would of died too. That's stuck with me since she told me that. I've always been pro choice, but after hearing that, and being told how rough that all really was for her, it just solidified my stance on abortion, and I find it so frustrating that so many states are staring to make abortion illegal. And even stupider, that some places are talking about the death penalty when it comes to abortion. Humanity is literally going backwards now. 😑
THANK YOU OMG it’s fucked up and inhumane. Even when I was assaulted and nearly conceived, the people at Planned Parenthood helped me before Roe vs Wade
I'm sorry to hear you were assaulted I hope you were okay, well okay as you could be when you've been assaulted
@@user-nl4ht9kv9g I am, thank you for asking. Lost a lot of friends and majority of family after that day. But I’m still alive, with my tubes tied, eggs donated (for college tuition LMAOO), child free forever with my boyfriend and my friends! It’ll get better with time, we just gotta keep our heads high. Also, my rapist got killed in jailed by another prisoner so, yahoo!
Seriously. I think so many pro-life people believe that people are choosing to have abortions flippantly, but in the vast majority of cases, the person getting the abortion feels they had no choice. Due to their own health, or the health of the fetus, or just the fact that they recognize that they will be unable to care for the child if they bring it to term. And no, adoption is NOT the perfect answer. If the mom or baby or both might die in childbirth, why would you even suggest that? When the foster system in the US is extremely overwhelmed, when foster children are far more likely to be abused, neglected, or end up homeless or in jail, why would you think that's better? Not to mention the COST of carrying a child to term. The mother could be burdened by medical bills and health problems for the rest of her life. No, adoption is not an option for many people, and suggesting that is often ignorant and hurtful.
@@keymango I’m so sorry you went through that. No one deserves to go through that, and I’m glad that Planned Parenthood was able to help you though that. Stuff like that is why abortion should be legal everywhere.
I'm a male with a bunch of female friends and I know a decent amount these things but this I would've never guessed that this was a law. I think abortion should be allowed...