@killeing its one of his supers, he pulls out a present, runs to the victim, trips and the present lands in their hands. The present is an explosive that blows them up.
Nah, it's because he doesn't use Ki, so they can't instinctually read and react to the way his enegy is flowing. It's a genius counter strategy to this energy nonsense, and it's no wonder that none other than the champion protector of the world would come up with it.
@@Macaulyn_97 Well Androids 17 & 18 do _have_ Ki as they are still mostly human, but instead they use artificial energy from the Eternal Energy Reactors that were implanted into them when Dr. Gero turned them into cyborgs. Mr. Satan only needs his mucles to pummel these energy users into the dirt.
@@Macaulyn_97 You're right, that can't be the reason. The true reason is that he's the world champion, the defeater of Cell and Majin Buu, the strongest fighter in the universe, the man of the hour, numero uno, THE Mr. Satan
Its funny how this game is kinda balanced on who you'd expect to be stronger/have bs abilities, almost as if they knew players would dedicate playing any other character knowing how often they'll run into the big players. Its been neat seeing how people view this game in a more competitive light despite the design going against that a bit.
It's literally not though. The strength of characters in this game is entirely dictated by the moves they have since they share combos, so the best characters in the game are the ones with stuff like Afterimage, insta sparking and unblockables, even if they cost 2DP. The game is horribly balanced and not in a lore accurate way
@@CorelUser Probably because the developers didn't necessarily intend for this game to be played as a highly competitive fighting game like Tekken, Street Fighter, or DBFZ. They wanted this to be a fun party game you could play with your friends and enjoy playing as characters that have accurate powerscaling to their anime/manga counterparts.
@@rezthefalcon they're literally hosting an official international tournament with no holds barred rn. That looks pretty highly competitive to me Besides my point is exactly that the game isn't accurate to the series' powerscaling, due to how stupidly strong certain shared moves are
The reason ranked works so well in this is because skill is the deciding factor in this game power is irrelevant, learn your character and you will get better. To push it even further genuinely I train against the max level ui goku on offline for hours with a character before i play them in ranked because i am a higher rank, before anyone asks I play Tapion and 6 stars.
@littlelotus797 If two people are evenly matched in skill, and player 1 switches to an objectively better character, player 1 has an edge over player 2.
Just fought a whis who did this and spammed his super. Got him with Bojack transforming into full power combo it was beautiful. Reminds me of xenoverse people gonna play how they want in just gotta adapt or just lose. Still having fun not taking it that seriously.
grew up with the tenkaichi series. lore accuracy is good, but the tenkaichi series was never accurate about which characters were the strongest. consider that android 17 and perfect cell are two of the strongest characters in bt3. also, lore accuracy stops being a good thing when shit becomes overpowered to the point of totally overshadowing every other option. try using your favorite character in ranked for a while and see how god awful it is to fight super vegito, ssj4 gogeta, mui goku, ssj2 kefla, and fp jiren every match.
@@phasi2182 that's not good advice. the fact that ranked is genuinely unplayable at higher ranks unless you bring specific characters is a serious problem. i'd love to get into ranked more often, but i shouldn't have to sell my soul to the meta just to win against cheese.
Budokai Tenkaichi games are unbalanced on purpose because you're supposed to figure out how to beat a bot-controlled superior character using weaker characters. Every fight is a puzzle. It's only when you get to multiplayer that things start getting stupid
And I ❤ them for it. They just need to put the same amount of focus on things such as: 5 vs 5 with doubled up amount of time (in private lobbies with close friends if the problem is making stranger in queue waiting) - Taking the character selection to 2 minutes or somehing - Why the hell if I’m hosting a lobby I can pre set up my team through training but my hosted friend doing the same will find himself with the last team he got in the match?
He doesn’t dodge charged attacks, charged ki blasts, dash attacks, specials, and literally doesn’t dodge anything if he’s doing any inputs at all. Not nearly as broken as his damage
Despite the fact that whis is this op I’ve never actually ran into someone playing as him. Probably because people feel like a piece of shit for doing so
I like Whis, but I he is just less appealing than Saiyans. His looks and behaviour probably play a huge role. Most people want to play Saiyan brutes. Also it is about the screen time and UI-Goku broke the Internet when he made his first appearance.
Fun fact that i love: If you set CPU vs CPU base Jiren vs full power Broly, Broly has more HP, but Jiren will still win most of these fights with high diff. But if you put enraged Jiren vs full power Broly, Jiren will win most fights mid diff
@kirbyof590stars is it? I dunno. It was stated that Beerus was still trying to master it but he was proficient enough in the manga to dodge all the GoD's at once. Goku, despite having MUI, hasn't really "mastered" UI. This is corroborated in the Granloh arc when Goku gets hit and Vegeta essentially tells him to forget UI if it's not autonomous. I dunno. I don't doubt it, but it was never explicitly stated IIRC. Beerus, despite being a cool character, is a narrative disaster.
How exactly do you get past whis then I know how to with goku as you just kind of hit him when he has lower ki bars but what about whis do you just hit him with a blast super or what
Id liek to think, both out of the insect, neigh, microbe that is humans, Whis doesn't need to even instinctually dodge. Just let that human have fun. Plus also like to think the angel code somewhere has humans be an exception to something.
Lore-accurate, you say? So does that mean characters below e.g.: 18's power-level can actually be one-shotted by a perfected SS1 or above? No? Didn't think so. The only thing that's annoying about DB games is how every character can kick every other character's ass, and it's just jarring to see, even for the sake of a fighting game. But, then...what are they gonna do? Make characters above a certain level completely untouchable for others? Wouldn't be much fun, unless we can level our own character. Hope they'll be a Xenoverse 3, eventually. Or something similar with an open-world even. Maybe different planets, too. Different hubs.
A character you can't hit, cool. What's "Goku User Interface (UI)" anyway? DBZ ended on Buu. The rest is whatever. Like how is that Whis can do this but you can hit the cat god? makes no sense. I know DBZ doesn't make sense, but this makes even less sense! Don't at me
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I don’t get it
@killeing its one of his supers, he pulls out a present, runs to the victim, trips and the present lands in their hands. The present is an explosive that blows them up.
Hercule’s strength is just so massive that it hits the integer cap so it actually just resets.
massive?
@keyztroke yknow what else is massive? THE LOW TAPER FADE
@fitnessgrampacertest34 “he got a middle part with a low taper and now he thinks he’s him?”
Or... due to Hercule being weak, there's no need to dodge the attack.
Nah, it's because he doesn't use Ki, so they can't instinctually read and react to the way his enegy is flowing. It's a genius counter strategy to this energy nonsense, and it's no wonder that none other than the champion protector of the world would come up with it.
@@jruler93 Wait, weren't the androids also without ki and couldn't be sensed? That's not the reason.
@@Macaulyn_97 Well Androids 17 & 18 do _have_ Ki as they are still mostly human, but instead they use artificial energy from the Eternal Energy Reactors that were implanted into them when Dr. Gero turned them into cyborgs.
Mr. Satan only needs his mucles to pummel these energy users into the dirt.
@@Macaulyn_97 You're right, that can't be the reason. The true reason is that he's the world champion, the defeater of Cell and Majin Buu, the strongest fighter in the universe, the man of the hour, numero uno, THE Mr. Satan
So this channel is spewing common knowledge as if it’s some secret they found?
I refuse to believe this game can have a real ranked mode.
It kinda does
whis is buns
Check my comment
Ranked as the same as normal mode
Its not meant to be played that way anyway, its meant to be played offline
We should just get arale and watch her destroy all it jn 2 seconds
A DLC with og Dragon Ball characters would be great. Mercenary Tao, General Blue, Arale, hell even the devil man
@@EdD.Velazquez devil man?
@@EdD.Velazquezarale I believe they can’t because it a toriyama character and not a db character so they need permission from akira but they can’t now
beerus literally destroys arale, he scales above her feats
@@dziosdzynes7663 he's immune to gag characters
Mr. Satan is just so b̶a̶d̶ good that they can't predict him
Fallen Angel Satan vs WHIS+
Bro, im weak🤣
Its funny how this game is kinda balanced on who you'd expect to be stronger/have bs abilities, almost as if they knew players would dedicate playing any other character knowing how often they'll run into the big players. Its been neat seeing how people view this game in a more competitive light despite the design going against that a bit.
It's literally not though. The strength of characters in this game is entirely dictated by the moves they have since they share combos, so the best characters in the game are the ones with stuff like Afterimage, insta sparking and unblockables, even if they cost 2DP.
The game is horribly balanced and not in a lore accurate way
@@CorelUseryeah you don’t know what lore accurate means
@@CorelUser You literally do not know what lore accurate means.
@@CorelUser Probably because the developers didn't necessarily intend for this game to be played as a highly competitive fighting game like Tekken, Street Fighter, or DBFZ. They wanted this to be a fun party game you could play with your friends and enjoy playing as characters that have accurate powerscaling to their anime/manga counterparts.
@@rezthefalcon they're literally hosting an official international tournament with no holds barred rn. That looks pretty highly competitive to me
Besides my point is exactly that the game isn't accurate to the series' powerscaling, due to how stupidly strong certain shared moves are
Safest AFK character
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Words that shake the planet's core
The reason ranked works so well in this is because skill is the deciding factor in this game power is irrelevant, learn your character and you will get better. To push it even further genuinely I train against the max level ui goku on offline for hours with a character before i play them in ranked because i am a higher rank, before anyone asks I play Tapion and 6 stars.
What’s the diffence between ranked and normal
@ The only real difference is you get a permaban after disconnecting so many times in ranked. Otherwise it has the same options pretty much.
Power is very relevant if your opponent is of equal/similar skill level
@@pringusdingus no? If you are similar skill level then power becomes even more irrelevant because you are putting skill and against skill.
@littlelotus797 If two people are evenly matched in skill, and player 1 switches to an objectively better character, player 1 has an edge over player 2.
Mr satan 😂
Maybe Hercule doesn't present any kind of Ki in his attacks so Whis can't detect them to autododge
I guess Ultra Instinct only kicks in when it senses danger.
Just fought a whis who did this and spammed his super. Got him with Bojack transforming into full power combo it was beautiful. Reminds me of xenoverse people gonna play how they want in just gotta adapt or just lose. Still having fun not taking it that seriously.
I think I know my main if I ever play this game
Detail ui doesn't se him as a threat cuz hes really not😭
Oh wow that’s actually cool I enjoy them making Whis Auto dodge.
"the developers care more about lore accuracy than balance waaah" YES THAT'S THE POINT
Gonna assume the ones complaining are too young to have grown up with the Budokai Tenkaichi games 😅
@degov5 i didn't grow up with them but i wish i did 😅
grew up with the tenkaichi series. lore accuracy is good, but the tenkaichi series was never accurate about which characters were the strongest. consider that android 17 and perfect cell are two of the strongest characters in bt3.
also, lore accuracy stops being a good thing when shit becomes overpowered to the point of totally overshadowing every other option. try using your favorite character in ranked for a while and see how god awful it is to fight super vegito, ssj4 gogeta, mui goku, ssj2 kefla, and fp jiren every match.
@@thanosdevito then don't play ranked?
@@phasi2182 that's not good advice. the fact that ranked is genuinely unplayable at higher ranks unless you bring specific characters is a serious problem. i'd love to get into ranked more often, but i shouldn't have to sell my soul to the meta just to win against cheese.
Can Whis autododge Whis tho
The only card that can beat an Ace...is the Deuce
Gokus grab for whis should be a bite that does crazy damage and always hits
Budokai Tenkaichi games are unbalanced on purpose because you're supposed to figure out how to beat a bot-controlled superior character using weaker characters. Every fight is a puzzle.
It's only when you get to multiplayer that things start getting stupid
And I ❤ them for it. They just need to put the same amount of focus on things such as:
5 vs 5 with doubled up amount of time (in private lobbies with close friends if the problem is making stranger in queue waiting)
- Taking the character selection to 2 minutes or somehing
- Why the hell if I’m hosting a lobby I can pre set up my team through training but my hosted friend doing the same will find himself with the last team he got in the match?
Whis: “Alright bruh it was fun seeing you destroy Frieza but now you’re taking it too far”
He doesn’t dodge charged attacks, charged ki blasts, dash attacks, specials, and literally doesn’t dodge anything if he’s doing any inputs at all. Not nearly as broken as his damage
Just be thankful this game's zbroly doesn't have hyper armor in all attacks like in fighterz
Despite the fact that whis is this op I’ve never actually ran into someone playing as him. Probably because people feel like a piece of shit for doing so
I like Whis, but I he is just less appealing than Saiyans. His looks and behaviour probably play a huge role. Most people want to play Saiyan brutes. Also it is about the screen time and UI-Goku broke the Internet when he made his first appearance.
@@123hattan true. Even raditz has more aura than whis lol
Alright, at this point Whis is officilaly BROKEN💀
His Power Level must be Astronomical! I can't even feel it! Is even as Strong as Zeno to have a Power Level Like This!?
The man in Question 1:00
technically beerus (and maybe roshi?) should also have ui dodge
Chaotzu solos
MrSatan was born different.
I beat Whis at full level CPU as Chiaotzu🥱🥱🥱
UI *sign* Goku also can
But not MUI?
@@thefiresworddragon927 thats alr in the video bud
@@sknyc1688 He thinks that the guy who wrote the comment, is talking about THIS ABILITY- 1:00
Fun fact that i love:
If you set CPU vs CPU base Jiren vs full power Broly, Broly has more HP, but Jiren will still win most of these fights with high diff.
But if you put enraged Jiren vs full power Broly, Jiren will win most fights mid diff
I wonder what would happen if you played Captain Ginyu in this situation
Hedgehog has gun= best character in fiction
Well, of course the Champ can touch him.
sword characters are able to hit goku ui and whis after spamming square
1:01
In the words of Timon...
" What was with the running? If you call that running?
Now I know why people hate Whis in this game
Beerus is supposed to have UI 🤦🏽♂️
he isn't
he rarely utilizes it, and only as a technique, not a transformation
Wait in the Manga during a battle royale between all the Gods of Destruction Beerus actually uses Ultra instinct for a bit (not perfect though)
Funny how this doesnt actually work. Just tested it out myself.
You forgot about DODON RAY
Well Angels and Satan are enemies🤔
Beerus should have an auto dodge that drains a little less ki than Goku
I would argue his would drain more Ki cus he has less proficiency in UI than Goku
Beerus should have an 50% auto doge.
@kirbyof590stars is it? I dunno. It was stated that Beerus was still trying to master it but he was proficient enough in the manga to dodge all the GoD's at once. Goku, despite having MUI, hasn't really "mastered" UI. This is corroborated in the Granloh arc when Goku gets hit and Vegeta essentially tells him to forget UI if it's not autonomous.
I dunno. I don't doubt it, but it was never explicitly stated IIRC. Beerus, despite being a cool character, is a narrative disaster.
@@matteog2719 i feel like this would be really hard to balance around.
@@ParanoiaKeepsMeWake Might be better to use UI Sign and UI since MUI isn't a thing
Lore accurate whis
its over 🗣
Beerus should have been able to.. on account of having no armour
Whenever i fight against whis . Ill try my best to win but if im losing ill quit cause they dont deserve a win
It's because whis can't dodge a pile of poop.
Why is Whis’ face like that
How exactly do you get past whis then I know how to with goku as you just kind of hit him when he has lower ki bars but what about whis do you just hit him with a blast super or what
You're forced to either parry or use ki explosions
you parry or use heavy attacks, or heavy ki blasts. any super or ult also works, and also grabbing works
You use Mr Satan.
Id liek to think, both out of the insect, neigh, microbe that is humans, Whis doesn't need to even instinctually dodge. Just let that human have fun. Plus also like to think the angel code somewhere has humans be an exception to something.
Wait so MUI can auto dodge but not Vados? Thats the dumbest thing ever
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Lore-accurate, you say? So does that mean characters below e.g.: 18's power-level can actually be one-shotted by a perfected SS1 or above?
No?
Didn't think so. The only thing that's annoying about DB games is how every character can kick every other character's ass, and it's just jarring to see, even for the sake of a fighting game. But, then...what are they gonna do? Make characters above a certain level completely untouchable for others? Wouldn't be much fun, unless we can level our own character. Hope they'll be a Xenoverse 3, eventually. Or something similar with an open-world even. Maybe different planets, too. Different hubs.
So you don’t press anything to do dodge?
ITS OVER!!!
Why is whis so rarely used then, in ranked? He kinda seems like a easy win character
cause there's literally no gameplay with whis, you literally do nothing and it's boring
👏🤣 1:02
I haven't got the game yet... I-Is this r-real!?
A character you can't hit, cool. What's "Goku User Interface (UI)" anyway?
DBZ ended on Buu. The rest is whatever. Like how is that Whis can do this but you can hit the cat god? makes no sense. I know DBZ doesn't make sense, but this makes even less sense! Don't at me
Lmao
Mui players are such scrubs, just stand still all game and hold perception, then ragequit
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