Religious Militancy in Pakistan: Causes and Cures | Amir Rana and Dr. Pervez Hoodbhoy

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  • Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
  • مذہبی شدت پسندی اور عسکریت آج کے دور کا ایک بڑا مسئلہ ہے۔ ایسے عناصر کم و بیش ہر معاشرے میں پائے جاتے ہیں مگر تعداد میں کم ہونے اور سماج کی تائید حاصل نہ ہونے کے باعث وہ ریاست کے لئے خطرہ نہیں بن پاتے۔ پریشان کن صورت تب بنتی ہے جب یہ اپنا اثر و رسوخ بڑھاتے بڑھاتے پورے معاشرے کو یرغمال بنا کر ریاست اور پورے نظام کو چیلنج کرنے لگیں۔ بدقسمتی سے پاکستان میں گزشتہ چند دہائیوں میں ایسی ہی صورتحال نے جنم لیا ہے۔ ’بزم تاریخ و ادب‘ کے اس سیشن میں ہم اس مسئلے کے عوامل، اسباب اور پس منظر کا جائزہ لیتے ہوئے اس کے تدارک پر گفتگو کریں گے۔ اس کے لئے ہمارے ساتھ محمد عامر رانا ہوں گے، جبکہ اس سیشن کو ڈاکٹر پرویز ہود بھائی موڈریٹ کریں گے۔
    محمد عامر رانا سیکیورٹی اور سیاسی تجزیہ کار ہیں اور پاک انسٹی ٹیوٹ فار پیس اسٹڈیز کے ڈائریکٹر ہیں۔ انہوں نے انسداد دہشت گردی، انسداد انتہا پسندی، اور داخلی اور علاقائی سلامتی اور سیاست سے متعلق امور پر بڑے پیمانے پر کام کیا ہے۔

Комментарии • 462

  • @vortexofficial3577
    @vortexofficial3577 Год назад +62

    Thank God I'm in India.. doesn't matter majority are hindus but we are so much free that no maulanas are allowed to interfere in any muslim person's life or the way of their living

    • @RakeshSingh-gr4mm
      @RakeshSingh-gr4mm Год назад +21

      I just pray that you are able to convince your brethren who are hell bent on walking back to the 7th century darkness: burka, hijab, namaz on the roads, are all symptoms of the disease of Islam.

    • @voiddoingnothing5266
      @voiddoingnothing5266 Год назад +14

      'Doesn't matter majority are hindus' - you didnnot appreciate this. Point being you enjoy all those freedoms coz hindus are in majority.

    • @avi5705
      @avi5705 Год назад

      Enjoy till Hindus are majority.

    • @Mustafa-qr8vu
      @Mustafa-qr8vu Год назад +1

      @@kakun63 your mind is the proven, not islam

    • @Mustafa-qr8vu
      @Mustafa-qr8vu Год назад +1

      You would never know the meaning of freedom,You would forever remain slaves of Racist Hinduvta Raj

  • @R.kandaswamy
    @R.kandaswamy Год назад +51

    “ No one died for Pakistan but Millions of innocents died because of Pakistan”
    -Moeenuddin Ahmad Qureshi Former Prime Minister of Pakistan.

    • @mumtaz.qureshi
      @mumtaz.qureshi Год назад +2

      What about kashmir, butcher of Gujrat, Muzzafargarh, Ali Garh.... Moreover don't forget that you workship cow and we eat it.

    • @R.kandaswamy
      @R.kandaswamy Год назад +1

      @@mumtaz.qureshi can't expect intelligent comment from a follower of cruel , inhuman cult.
      By the way this quote is by Pakistan's Ex-Prime Minister not by Non-Pakistani.

    • @R.kandaswamy
      @R.kandaswamy Год назад

      @@mumtaz.qureshi No wonder Pakistan is irrelevant not only to world but also to India. Pakistan has only nnuisance value like a mosquito in the room.
      As Americans said " Pakistanis can sell their mother for few dollars". Google and check who said that.

    • @devendrajat143
      @devendrajat143 Год назад

      @@mumtaz.qureshi that the point we follow humanity.

    • @devendrajat143
      @devendrajat143 Год назад +7

      @@mumtaz.qureshi population in india in 1947 Muslim 2% in 2020 20%.
      In pakistan 1947 18% hindus are left only 1%.

  • @shivamkhare9548
    @shivamkhare9548 Год назад +83

    All the problems these guys are discussing are also prevalent among Indian Muslims. Maybe it’s not about Pakistan, but more about Islamic traditions in modern times

    • @RealRandomVideos
      @RealRandomVideos Год назад +19

      We all Indians should know that Pakistan is not geographical location it’s a state of mind..

    • @aucknew
      @aucknew Год назад +4

      No, pakistani muslims have different mindset than Indian Muslims. Do not make a mistake of generalising on basis of religion. Having said that, definitely there is a problem of extremism within India.

    • @gosliglitzho
      @gosliglitzho Год назад +1

      You are right. This is not only about india or pak muslims, look at incidents happening in Europe - Sweden, France Denmark, Germany, UK, Belgium etc, These countries gave these moslem shelter and these savages are destroying them. Majority (not all) muslims are savages.

    • @amit9023
      @amit9023 Год назад

      @@aucknew muslim have same mindset based on Non muslim hatred... They change according to population.. If minority then quiet but in majority then non Muslim can't even speak

    • @raven-dl3xo
      @raven-dl3xo Год назад +3

      Exactly....Most Indian Muslims have same mindset....We can forget about Pak and BD but Indian Muslims will slow us down by hollowing us from inside

  • @vishy2511979
    @vishy2511979 Год назад +78

    Even the Professors intellect falls apart as soon as Kashmir comes into the picture. This shows there is no hope for Pakistan.

    • @rakeshbarman3486
      @rakeshbarman3486 Год назад

      bro we think our left is woke pseudo liberal ,but in Pakistan their left is even worse ,some of them are extreme right on india pakistan and kashmir

    • @kh-fk3ko
      @kh-fk3ko Год назад +4

      why because it doesn't fit your narrative?

    • @7xr1e20ln8
      @7xr1e20ln8 Год назад +25

      @@kh-fk3ko yes because it doesn't fit the absolute truth. Which is there is no persecution in Kashmir. Unlike in the PoK.

    • @kh-fk3ko
      @kh-fk3ko Год назад +5

      @@7xr1e20ln8 ok then let them vote for what they want.

    • @Bharatiya1998
      @Bharatiya1998 Год назад +9

      @kh there are 3 steps..Porkistan Government has to follow 1st step to peaceful transition....Why would Bharat want POK it is in shambles.

  • @AbdurRehman-hx1vu
    @AbdurRehman-hx1vu Год назад +9

    Audience are very mature and ask very beautiful questions about the topic. Respect for everyone who are part of this session.

  • @ganeshjogur5071
    @ganeshjogur5071 Год назад +62

    Being Indian i love the videos presented by the black hole RUclips channel. Sadly many people are not taking the advantage of these useful videos. Pervez sir you are doing excellent work for Pakistan. I wish this channel would grow well and contribute to the betterment of common citizens.

    • @Utsav_Viradiya
      @Utsav_Viradiya Год назад +26

      I find his understanding of Hinduism very flawed. He didn't even know the other strata of Hinduism like Kshatriya. He thought there were only two strata pertaining to Hinduism, that is, Baniya and Brahmin. Although he's very thoughtful and seems quite knowledgable in other aspects, he often gets things wrong related to India.

    • @EliteCycleWalkWindsorCanada
      @EliteCycleWalkWindsorCanada Год назад

      @@Utsav_Viradiya Please educate about other strata of hinuism !!. It will be learning

    • @KingKong-lb3vh
      @KingKong-lb3vh Год назад +4

      LIke our secular journalists, Pervez Hoodbhoy also has been discredited due to his 'roshan khayali' secularism promoting view.........same daku religious extremist mentality in both countries unfortunately

    • @GopoRandhariFitness
      @GopoRandhariFitness Год назад +1

      Kyunki yeh india ki sazish hai...

    • @RealRandomVideos
      @RealRandomVideos Год назад +3

      @@EliteCycleWalkWindsorCanada there are six systems (shad-darśana) - Sankhya, Yoga, Nyaya, Vaisheshika, Mimamsa and Vedanta. Idol worshipping is just small part of sanatana. U may research more on each of these philosophy and imbibe any one or all of these in your everyday life..

  • @saswatideb8828
    @saswatideb8828 Год назад +24

    Thank you very much Dr.Hoodhbhoy Sir for establishing this such a learning and enlightening platform named "The Black Hole"🙏. You also brought it to RUclips channel and paved the way for us to be part of these wonderful discussions, so my heartfelt thanks to you once again.🙏
    The questions that were asked by the audience were of very pertinent and high value and it certainly took up the session a few notch further 🙏
    But I must say that the speaker in today's section mentioned India quite often without having much knowledge on Indian social milieu. Very unfortunate indeed. The comparison between the minorities of Pakistan and minorities of India cannot be done at same level as India is country of diversified culture and the rights of all Indian citizens, cutting across religious beliefs,are safeguarded by the Indian Constitution. Moreover, it is interesting to note the population of Indian Muslims are more than than the state of Pakistan. And they are the most vociferous on talking about minority rights. In the truest term, Shikhs, Buddhists, Jains and Parsis constitute the minorities; but they never feel that their fundamental rights are infringed. Most importantly, India has a very educated and vibrant civil society, and there is no radicalisation in our armed forces, hence the proper checks and balance system is in place. In this context, I would request you to kindly refrain from drawing parallels from Pakistan to India,. This is absolutely ludicrous.

  • @suryanarayanajagarlapudi8672
    @suryanarayanajagarlapudi8672 Год назад +3

    I heard Dr. Hoodbhai and Mr. Muzammil Shah and enjoyed the events. I wish the spirit will spread over all the sub-continent.

  • @honeyfunny8272
    @honeyfunny8272 Год назад +2

    Dr.Pervez Hudboy We Love You,
    You really Dared,God Bless You.

  • @SanjayTiwari-bh8rd
    @SanjayTiwari-bh8rd Год назад +67

    The guest had very limited knowledge of India but is referring to India quite often.
    It's important for Pakistan intelligentsia to study India more as their source of information which is forming a narrative on India seems to be extremely selective.
    Hats off to Parvez Sahab and The Black Hole for taking up interesting topics for discussions.

    • @amit9023
      @amit9023 Год назад +8

      Bcoz they any how justify that every religion is same and Islam has problem so hindus too.. Just for satisfy their ego nothing else..

    • @AlphaSierra380
      @AlphaSierra380 Год назад +4

      Agree. I think being in Pakistan they can't be seen talking too much good about India.

    • @riazhassan6570
      @riazhassan6570 Год назад

      @@AlphaSierra380 Not much good to talk about

    • @AlphaSierra380
      @AlphaSierra380 Год назад +2

      @@riazhassan6570 100% agree with you. Nothing good to talk about India.

    • @appupappu6412
      @appupappu6412 Год назад +5

      @@riazhassan6570 ignorance is the best knowledge in the religion of Islam spreading hatred and terrorism

  • @sushilupadhyay8093
    @sushilupadhyay8093 Год назад +4

    This is half hearted discussion on violence culture in Pakistan. It should start decades ago - specially since Zia's time. If violence perpetrated in Kashmir was good , then why not in Pakistan by Tehrike -Taliban ??
    Such sightedness will lead Pak to where it is drifting slowly.

  • @rakeshbarman3486
    @rakeshbarman3486 Год назад +15

    at 1.29.00 that old man was just touching the core issue to terrorism but still didn't have that much of honesty to touch it bluntly, all this jihad militancy etc comes from islamic books

    • @samibabar9543
      @samibabar9543 Год назад

      no, that comes from fabricated and doctored Islamic books. It is not real Islam

    • @mikesheth5370
      @mikesheth5370 Год назад +1

      It started when Mohemmed started gazwas. Study them. All could have been avoided and he could have preached tolerance. Later most of the Shahebas will be murdered. Finally there was shia Sunni wars. Once jehad and looting stopped , it was down hill for Islam.

  • @muhammadzahid3943
    @muhammadzahid3943 Год назад +4

    Great opportunity to learn something logically, positively.

  • @sherdillshahbaz1271
    @sherdillshahbaz1271 Год назад +4

    Dr. Muhammad Amir Rana has excellent thinking process with an extraordinary writing style, which makes it easy for anyone to understand his idea. I have been reading him in Dawn. Thanks to Dr. Pervaiz Hoodboy, I got a chance to listen to Rana shb.

  • @sushmachandak3316
    @sushmachandak3316 Год назад +2

    Just gve up Islam, Pakistan will be a heaven again

    • @amit9023
      @amit9023 Год назад +1

      😀.. Madam if they give up Islam then they will turn into human being..

  • @SameerAhmad-ko6zj
    @SameerAhmad-ko6zj Год назад +2

    One of the best debatable program in which a brief discussion on a single issue with questions answer session.
    Hats off for black while all team

  • @shreedadarwala7650
    @shreedadarwala7650 Год назад +2

    *PEACE LOVING RELIGION IS SPREADING PEACE!*

  • @Sameer-wf3fc
    @Sameer-wf3fc Год назад +31

    "Anythung happens in Pakistan, it's by India"..... Pakistan must come out of this syndrome. India neither has time or money to waste like this.

    • @cocophonix
      @cocophonix 10 месяцев назад

      Or the internet

    • @AhmedSultan-hi4gv
      @AhmedSultan-hi4gv 6 месяцев назад +1

      And vice versa is also true. Moodi is still.singling out Muslims . Babary Mosque was demolished to placate Hjndu Vote, whereas all famous Hindu leaders of the past like Nehru and Gandhi ji never played religious card in their politics. Why raise such issues when all communities have settled down in peace including low caste Hindus like Dalits and other schedule castes. Same way the extremist elements in Pakistan at time start targeting minorities but the State is guarding minorities' rights through constitutional safeguards.😅. In fact neither your Secular leaders in India nor in Pakistan sanction any extremism. Let us live in peace like we had been doing since centuries in sub continent. We all.belong to one race that is Humanity. Militancy in whatever form just for the sake of it is abhoring and against humanity.

    • @purujitparashar4642
      @purujitparashar4642 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@AhmedSultan-hi4gv it was our temple buddy. This issue is older than gandhi himself. We don't care what anyone thinks. Muslims of the past have destroyed so many religious places of all religions. Temple mount jews
      Hagia Sophia in Constantinople
      Around 40,000 temples in India

  • @virendraSingh-je3sx
    @virendraSingh-je3sx Год назад +30

    Dear Prof. Pervez
    India developed roads, dams, hospitals etc. in Afghanistan, where as Pakistan created, nourished and helped cruel anti women Taliban to power in Kabul. Pakistan has to pay for its sin in Afghanistan as it got permanent enemy on western border.

    • @VijayKumar-eh4rf
      @VijayKumar-eh4rf Год назад +2

      Bhai.. it is all based on their great religion where women is considered just an object of pleasure and slave to man. Everything considered cruel, inhuman and against the well being of humanity in modern era is the foundation of their religion..

  • @rakeshbarman3486
    @rakeshbarman3486 Год назад +11

    nobody is asking from where that moulvi sitting in any madaras is teaching those extreme ideologies, what is the source for that moulvi ??

  • @Rizwan-Ali
    @Rizwan-Ali Год назад +2

    This is a very good program and discussion. very well done, and looking forward to more such talks.

  • @user-se2mu5fx7z
    @user-se2mu5fx7z 6 месяцев назад

    If Pakistan succeeds to produce 100 more minds/individuals like Professor Hoodbhoy, it can come out of all crises in a while.

  • @basantitanga3631
    @basantitanga3631 Год назад +4

    When you create a nation based on religion, the next question comes is that which section? The Government of Pakistan made a mistake to arm those sections to fight against Afghanistan. Now the dogs are planning to bite it's master. To complicate matters USA had poked it's nose in the matter. Now Pakistan can't take any action on its own before seeking approval of USA.

  • @mohamedshahidullah7387
    @mohamedshahidullah7387 Год назад +3

    Without lies Islam dies.

  • @aamirrizwan2011
    @aamirrizwan2011 Год назад +1

    Very intriguing, discussion. Thank you so much Dr Sahib , for bringing this to light and highlight this metastasize cancer.

  • @vish3471
    @vish3471 Год назад +6

    I may not have 100% understood but after listening to Black Hole discussions, I learned that - Pakistanis are not stupid people. Unfortunately, the intellectuals and the reasonable Pakistanis are very few in number. The other day I heard Miftah and I was surprised that he couldn't pull Pakistan out of the economic danger as Dr Manmohan Singh did for India in the 90s. Probably he summed it up very well, "We have tried parliament democracy, we have tried dictatorship, we had presidential rule but it did not work... hum bahut hi nalayak qaum hai".

  • @AlphaSierra380
    @AlphaSierra380 Год назад +1

    This channel is doing great job by calling such intelligent people

  • @divyasethi8499
    @divyasethi8499 Год назад +2

    "A Muslim can not kill another Muslim". This cliche is heard often and used by all Muslims. Can any Muslim explain why Iran and Iraq fought a deadly war for many years? When Babar invaded India his first casualty was Ibrahim Lodhi.

    • @ShubhamSingh-or3fp
      @ShubhamSingh-or3fp 11 месяцев назад

      You may agree or disagree but what I think war in Iraq and iran is bcz of national interst and also Iran has shia Muslims & iraq has sunni population, sunni regard shia as animals and enemy of islam .

  • @makhanlalsaha1026
    @makhanlalsaha1026 Год назад +7

    Respected Pervez & Amir Saab Thank you for this discussion. I would like to ask You all know HOW Terrorism, in the name of Jehad, started. Both Pakistan & Afghanistan supported this DESTRUCTIVE ideology & Pakistan as a state used , created, supported, paid these terrorists against India to liberate or occupy Kashmir. Now they are beyond your control.

    • @balbirsingh-qm6he
      @balbirsingh-qm6he 9 месяцев назад

      As you sow so shall you reap is fit for ....ak

  • @TheChoudharydharmesh
    @TheChoudharydharmesh Год назад +9

    Let me explain from a psychologist/psychiatrist point of view. First on the point why Pak army will fear from religious section.please understand that army as an institution works as a single unit ,it drives it's strength not from guns but from unity of its soldiers.since religious mindset being the basic doctrine in which Pak people envision themselves sympathy for the cause of religious organisations becomes natural and hence the effective division in army at every level proven by the examples of army officers involved in different attacks on army headquarters and jail incident.

  • @R.kandaswamy
    @R.kandaswamy Год назад +4

    Please invite Syde Muzamil.

  • @umerhayat1590
    @umerhayat1590 7 месяцев назад

    Thank you Hoodboy
    Sir for introducing us with the best intellectuals of our country

  • @sabihah8228
    @sabihah8228 Год назад +2

    In Islam there is no tolerance for FASAD, to disrupt the peace of the community can lead to capitol punishment. So if the authorities want to take any action against those people who disrupt peace in any way they should not be afraid to it being considered un Islamic

  • @vickypatel3914
    @vickypatel3914 Год назад +6

    Imran khan : Osama bin Laden hamara hero hai,
    Nawaz Sharif : hame India me terrorist nahi bhejane chahie

  • @shoaibkahut
    @shoaibkahut Год назад +2

    Very great discussion .

  • @legbeforewicket1
    @legbeforewicket1 Год назад +2

    The conversation makes it so clear why Pakistan is in deep problem. What is seen at general public level is seen at policy level. No matter what you say jihadist or fundamentalist or extremist, any one that opts for violence should be treated as criminals. From conversation, you can see there is some level of sympathy even among general public. Why don't you compare yourselves with other Islamic countries? UAE, Indonesia, Malaysia?
    Unfortunately, this is a fundamental flaw.
    Very sad !! They consider jihadist as second line army and till they cannot come out of this thinking, Unfortunately, country has no bright future.

  • @studywithbalochsir8825
    @studywithbalochsir8825 Год назад +2

    Sir Hoodbhoy deserves millions of subscribers

    • @marspalk7611
      @marspalk7611 11 месяцев назад

      He is bit biased against India.

  • @jayantpatel250
    @jayantpatel250 Год назад +3

    Listen to Adam Serker

  • @sumitsoral
    @sumitsoral Год назад +6

    Karma haunts!
    जब बोया पेड़ बबूल का, तो फल कहां से होत।

  • @mikesheth5370
    @mikesheth5370 Год назад +2

    From day one Muslims had fought among themselves starting with Shia Sunni. Muslims can’t agree what is true practice of Islam. No two Mullas agree!

  • @babarazam900
    @babarazam900 Год назад +3

    Love the topics you bring sir ❤️
    Valuable

  • @ADGroupOfArtMedia1
    @ADGroupOfArtMedia1 Год назад +2

    Only 2 women out of ~50 people.
    A forward thinking modern-Islamic-society for you

  • @HimanshuShukla0802
    @HimanshuShukla0802 Год назад +10

    Pakistan gov and establishments must focus on education of science , technology , engineering , and medicals.

    • @htnaku4947
      @htnaku4947 Год назад +2

      Wrong. let them self destruct. Let them do what they are doing in long run they will fall apart. In India also educated so-called peacefuls are also involved in Anti-Hindu and Anti-India Jihad, Jihadi Terrorism, and Love Jihad. So its a Jihadi Mindset problem which they get from their so-called religion of peace.

    • @vinsin328
      @vinsin328 Год назад +1

      That is against Two Nation Theory.

    • @NevilleRamdeholl
      @NevilleRamdeholl Год назад

      Instead, govt of Pakistan focuses on religious hatred, jihaad, blasphemy, IT : Islamic Terror, IT Islamic Threats, instead of engineering, science and tolerance towards other religions....

    • @htnaku4947
      @htnaku4947 Год назад +1

      Al Queda had Pakistani U.S Phd graduate Woman involved in making Deadly Chemical Weapons for Jihad against the U.S and the World. By educating these people all we do is to make their Jihad more Lethal and Dangerous. We should make sure that they stay in Stone age and self destroy both in Pakistan and India.

    • @htnaku4947
      @htnaku4947 Год назад +5

      @@NevilleRamdeholl Yes It is a Jihad Mindset problem. Their Jihad mindset is created from very young age at home and in their Jihad Schools. Also their Universities are tuned into higher level Jihad schools. Also this happening in India unfortunately we have Aligarh University where idea of Pakistan was born.

  • @ajgx2010
    @ajgx2010 Год назад +5

    I love Dr Hoodbhoy, but as usual dissapointed with the Pakistani narrative on their efforts to deal with terrorism. You need to deal with a society that is rabidly influenced and brainwashed with a particular and completely false narrative about being a muslim and Pakistani . The sooner this is wholeheartedly acknowledged by Pakistanis the effort to take corrective action will not be seeded. If sincere efforts are started today, this very minute you are looking at 2-3 generations for any corrections to take root.

  • @gk021176
    @gk021176 Год назад +4

    pakistan has taken wrong turn where they are trying to search their identity.

  • @parviz877
    @parviz877 Год назад +1

    Pervez Hoodby Ji !
    Leave the Rogue State before TTP & Afghan Occupy Karachi & Islamabad

  • @anujay81
    @anujay81 Год назад

    What a peaceful Majhab, jisane sabako Khoufjada kar rakhaa hai !!!

  • @s.m.4532
    @s.m.4532 Год назад +18

    Sir
    Please don’t justify Pakistans treatment of minorities by comparing to India.
    Your minorities are vanishing; ours have grown and only the Muslims in India play the victim card.
    The others flourish and prosper and are proud to be Indian.
    We listen to experts like you to get an understanding of the situation in Pakistan. We don’t want Pakistan to collapse and we don’t teach our children to hate minorities.
    What you are doing is not correct: you are dragging India into the discussion to make yourselves feel better.

    • @mrinal1129
      @mrinal1129 Год назад

      This is how they operate in 700 yrs,playing victim card,they have looted and captured Hindu homes and places

    • @cocophonix
      @cocophonix 10 месяцев назад

      That's what they do, day in and day out and pat themselves on the back that they are better than India. Living in an alternative universe for themselves

    • @balbirsingh-qm6he
      @balbirsingh-qm6he 9 месяцев назад

      Intolerance is on peak in pak

  • @balbirsingh-qm6he
    @balbirsingh-qm6he 9 месяцев назад

    Parvez sir thank you for enlighten on such issue

  • @-Neutron-Star
    @-Neutron-Star Год назад +5

    I usually concur with Dr Hoodboy on all things, but he couldn’t be more wrong about Indian side of the Kashmir these days. He has bought into same old narrative peddled by the ISPR backed media houses!
    It is also possible he wants to hold a balancing act while speaking on Kashmir coz he has to live in Pakistan.

    • @cocophonix
      @cocophonix 10 месяцев назад

      Why are you surprised. After all he is Pakistani. However educated, the mindset doesn't change

  • @aamirrizwan2011
    @aamirrizwan2011 Год назад

    سر یہ موضوع بہت پیچیدہ ہے، کچھ عالمی طاقتیں ، دوست مسلم ممالک ، فوج سب شامل رہے ہیں۔

  • @PA-hf7gy
    @PA-hf7gy Год назад +3

    Islami atankwad qi shurivat mhmd ne ki makka se Yasreeb jaane ke baad.

  • @saleemyousufrather
    @saleemyousufrather Год назад +3

    We can talk of secularization of education in Pakistan. The status of present state of education is eye opener

    • @sharad991
      @sharad991 6 месяцев назад

      Education koi secular nahi hota hai😂😂😂😂 science ko science rakhe uska source Qurand me na dhunde....sociology ....history apne dayare me padhe....aur Sabse bada issue ....jo Islam ka aur musalmano ka hai ki ....wo Qurand ke upar baat hi nahi karte ....Imaan par padhenge to kabhi nahi sudhrenge duniya aage jayengi....lekin Pakistan piche piche hi jayega....aur fir jaada...religious fanatics paida karenge.....so I see Pakistan's future is very sad😢😢

  • @sanjeevtiwari8347
    @sanjeevtiwari8347 9 месяцев назад

    A country that treats Mumtaz Quadir as its hero has lot to change.

  • @shanuchatterji
    @shanuchatterji Год назад +1

    pervez sir best wishes for propagting peace in indian sub continent

  • @RakeshSingh-gr4mm
    @RakeshSingh-gr4mm Год назад +7

    When a SCIENTIST starts with "Bismillah Rehman O Rahim" you know how terrible the situation is in Pakistan!
    Sad state of affairs: Pakistan will disintegrate and major part will fall into the hands of Islamists.

  • @subodhsingh9533
    @subodhsingh9533 Год назад +1

    Onset of programme has spark of Indian genes found in classical guru shisya parampara of gurukuls. Hats off to Pervez sir for ensuring the continuity of tradition in form of his shagird Raina.

  • @sultanaram8095
    @sultanaram8095 11 месяцев назад

    डा हुदभोय। बहुत अच्छा डिस्कसन रहा वार्ता के विषय पर।

  • @smith1849
    @smith1849 Год назад +5

    By looking at comments it seems Indians are more interested in talks about Pakistan than Pakistanis 😐

    • @krishnachavan1332
      @krishnachavan1332 Год назад

      True

    • @ankurroy3979
      @ankurroy3979 Год назад +15

      We should know our enemy.

    • @KingKong-lb3vh
      @KingKong-lb3vh Год назад +10

      yes dear just like Pakistanis are more interested in talks about Indians than Indians 😐- contrary to what you think we can see all the India gupshup on ARY news, GEO news, Pakistani RUclipsrs making money doing features on India's progress and Pakistan's 'soooooooorat e haal'.
      The fun part is that we get to see the poetic justice meted out to Pakistan, especially the army for it's atrocities on all neighbours and within....feel bad for the poor sheeples awam though who have been brain washed into believing the 'atmi taqat - ghazwa e baqwas

    • @KingKong-lb3vh
      @KingKong-lb3vh Год назад

      @@ankurroy3979 yes, we should know our enemy just as well as we know ourselves, rather than bury our heads in the sand like these jihadi ulBarbadis do.

    • @orissa72
      @orissa72 Год назад +2

      We are observing our neighborhood to know how a nation fails and what to do so that we will keep flourishing. Understanding the failures only lead us to success. Isn't it dear?

  • @kunalrai01
    @kunalrai01 Год назад +1

    The one who drew guns on the board - bhai artist ho tum.

  • @kifayatshuari9705
    @kifayatshuari9705 Год назад

    The only way to end extremism and militancy is the financial empowerment of the citizens.

  • @hardayaldawra1458
    @hardayaldawra1458 11 месяцев назад

    After watching entire post, I am lead to conclude that denominator for entire problem is Islam.

  • @DRVIKASJOSHI
    @DRVIKASJOSHI Год назад +2

    Taking high moral ground is very easy guys. I can take it almost on everything unless it doesn’t impact me. 😮

  • @bmniac
    @bmniac Год назад +8

    Living with contradictions is not too difficult if one accepts differences and ambiguities. But rigidity in approach and ideology will take one nowhere.

  • @jawadahmad3967
    @jawadahmad3967 Год назад +3

    What is the process to join by person, the Black Hole, live session ?

  • @Ex_AndhNamazi
    @Ex_AndhNamazi Год назад +5

    Your relidion birth is on the basis of militancy....
    How did #ola captured Mecca & Madina ❓❓
    Till today your relidion is expanding on the basis of militancy by c0nverting them....

  • @user-Ex..religious
    @user-Ex..religious Год назад +3

    Harish sultan ko video conferencing ke jariye apne show me bulaye

  • @guldukan
    @guldukan Год назад +3

    Pakistan is a like ex-wife who took divorce with India and started romancing with Rich guy (America), America initially bought expensive gifts (F16s, IMF loans) and got bored and ditched. Now it is trying to romance with new found Rich guy next door China and still fighting for custody battle of Kashmir

  • @rkaveti
    @rkaveti Год назад +2

    Pakistanis take this consolation that Indians are mistreating minorities. People who do that in most cases are just isolated. While they take these isolated incidences as exploitation of minorities, they at the same time ignore all these celebrities and national figures in India who are minorities. They conveniently try to focus on some minor cases. Also they also forget that the only minority that decreased in population are parsis who migrated where as Muslims and Christians are thriving and growing. Also they openly are discussing cross border terrorism as national policy and dr Pervez proudly espoused that Indian forces could not defeat these terrorist organizations and only FATF was responsible. With all that, how can you think Indians would like to have any trade or contact with Pakistanis. It is NOT HINDUTVA but Pakistanis themselves that we Indians hate Pakistanis. Also in other discussion they mentioned that BJP is not initiating any contacts. And when one of the audiences mentioned about Vajpayee bus diplomacy and subsequent Kargil, the guest and Dr Pervez did not have response. Classic Disingenuous and disgusting.

  • @S4NM
    @S4NM 6 месяцев назад

    Dr Pervez Sir, we had Foreign Minister Bilawal Bhuto Zaardari and our neighbor has Dr. Subrahmanyam Jaishankar with an experience of +30-years in Diplomatic World.... India chooses to place the right candidate at the right position beside in Pakistan we bring someone without experience just to explore the Free-World-Trip.....

  • @solelysoul8543
    @solelysoul8543 Год назад +2

    Yes, sirs.
    This is the crux of the matter.
    The reason, millions of people are miserable.
    Hope other RUclipsrs,too, speak on this..

  • @mustafanawaz4499
    @mustafanawaz4499 Год назад +2

    Please start uploading on Spotify!

  • @ranjeetkamble7646
    @ranjeetkamble7646 Год назад

    Very well said sir, this is most unbaised an indepth analysis of the crux of the problem of fundamentalism, jihad, Mujhadeen and terroist, state or non state... I wish he was a moderator in this debate....

  • @rebasingh258
    @rebasingh258 3 месяца назад

    The educated people of Pakistan must consider the following facts.
    1. JINNAH decided that India should be partitioned on the basis of relihion. At first he said that in Muslim majority Pakistan the minorities could live safely. He also said that the Muslims left behind in India would live their.
    2. Immediately after partition the Muslims of Pakistan started massacaring the Sikhs and Hindus. They were forced to flee to India. Jinnah did nothing to stop this bloodshed.The percentage of Sikhs and Hindus went down from 20.5% to 1%.
    2. In the Punjab area of India the Sikhs and Hindus retaliated against the Muslims of Punjab. Many Muslims fled from there to Pakistan. Mahatma Gandhi and Pandit Nehru took effective steps to protect the Muslims in the rest of India. At that time India had less than 10% Muslins. Today it has 14.5% Muslim population. Growth is due to high birthrate of Muslims and partly due to influx of Muslims from Bangladesh and Myanmar.
    3. Kashmir acceeded to India. Pakistan invaded Kashmir on the grounds that it is a Muslim majority area. However Pakistan does not welcome Muslims from India to settle in Pakustan.
    4. Pakistan was created for Muslims. The Pak army started killing, raping and torturing the Bengali Muslim. Finally Bangalees Muslims revolted and created an independant country.
    5. Now Pakistan is ill treating its Shia Muslims, the Ahmadiyas, the Baloch, the Mohajirs, the Pashtoons and people of Gilgit Baltistan and Azad Kashmir. Their rights are geing crushed.
    6. The prople of Pakistan must do soul searching to find out if such aggressive and oppressive behaviour is inbuilt in Islam. If not them why is Pakistan has been behaving like this.

  • @SubhashSharma-mr7ic
    @SubhashSharma-mr7ic Год назад +1

    Very painful that when it comes to Pak. Claim on Kashmir, these so called intellectuals end up exposing their Intellectual bankcruptacy.

  • @arya.bharat
    @arya.bharat Год назад +15

    Yaar har baat per India k saath false equivalence mat Kiya kero...
    India m minorities ko hinduon se jyada rights h....😐

    • @Prajanma_
      @Prajanma_ Год назад

      They can’t even imagine this fact , let alone believe it . They are jihadi bigoted low IQ people

    • @KingKong-lb3vh
      @KingKong-lb3vh Год назад

      equal rights hai, ZYADA nahi just like any democratic country.......zyada sirf andhbhakton ke man me hai

    • @mohank3463
      @mohank3463 Год назад +6

      @@KingKong-lb3vh pl ask yourself, are minorities in India treated well? Don't they have more rights than majority Hindus? No point in using foul language.
      Why this concept of majority and minority is created, just to give more rights to minorities.

    • @user-cq8hw3ni7g
      @user-cq8hw3ni7g Год назад +1

      It's poor mentality bro , muslims of pakistan didn't have other relegions when growing up , these majority people haven't seen a Hindu in their classes , lol .

    • @Mira-pm3ni
      @Mira-pm3ni Год назад +1

      ​​@@KingKong-lb3vh India mein Temples under government control hai . Churces or Mosque aren't under government control . So tell me how they don't have more rights than the majority? Tum toh andhbhakt ke sath competition karte ho itna kese nahi pata 😂

  • @user-Ex..religious
    @user-Ex..religious Год назад +4

    Pakistan ka masla kya
    La ilah illalah

  • @loveearthly
    @loveearthly Год назад +6

    Pakistan has entrapped itself within a mirror cage, not knowing real from reflection, or enemy from friend.
    Whereas Bharat fights a 2.5 front war - China, Pak, and the internal Jihadi Ummath - winning when one party wins a clear majority, losing focus under coalition party rule.

  • @tatvadarshi473
    @tatvadarshi473 Год назад +1

    I am not hopeful. If book is revered word by word for solving every problem it is not expected that radical state and radical society will accept and implement any good change.

  • @subodhsingh9533
    @subodhsingh9533 Год назад

    Shahid is absolutely right.

  • @atulkumar-pr4yo
    @atulkumar-pr4yo Год назад +2

    Parvez bhai you are a truely broadminded personality of Pakistan. But when it comes to Indian part of Kashmir and Hindu, suddenly your attitude changes. You have no idea of india side of Kashmir. They are more prosperous and developed than yours. Indian Army swing into action when kashmiri militants kills innocent people of Kashmir particularly, non- Muslims. Now in Kashmir militants have started targeting particular community. If Army take action against them, does it amount to harassment of Kashmiris?.

  • @AmrinderSinghHundal
    @AmrinderSinghHundal Год назад +1

    wish we had a blooming and growing hall as the black hole in India. there might be but I’ve never heard. keep up the knowledgeable and cognitive work

    • @cocophonix
      @cocophonix 10 месяцев назад

      Pakistan is a very small country compared to India. Look around keenly, you will find things more rewarding. You only need to look

  • @shekharpatel
    @shekharpatel Год назад +1

    Mr. Rana was too young in early 1990s to experience the extremely popular fire and brimstone Friday sermons publicly delivered by the leaders of Jamaat and Dava. post 9/11 these outfits were then allowed to flourish under other banners and names.
    The chronic hopelessness of Pakistanis and to some extent Indian Muslims has roots in the Jihadi mindset of the establishment supported hate preachers, which has never been opposed.
    The Pakistani idea of dispatching India by thousand cuts has now morphed into selling “pao pao ke bum” to the highest bidder.
    TTP wants to be “in” only to participate in the looting of the last dollar train to Pakistan. The day on which the Pakistani nuclear assets are being auctioned off.

  • @anujay81
    @anujay81 Год назад +1

    Sunni blasting Shiya mosques 🕌
    and vice versa. Leave apart Gair Islami places.

  • @authorhumanist8365
    @authorhumanist8365 Год назад

    Great keep it up ❤

  • @babyk1581
    @babyk1581 Год назад +2

    Rana saheb itenay padhay likhay ho ker kam se kam india ko pakistan se compare mat karayn pakistan ne minority ko takreeban khatam ker di hai india mein minority kai guna zyada huee hai iteni sahi discussion ke baad phir wohi pakistani mindset dikha ker aap pakistan ko wahin rehnay denge jahan isi wajah aaj pahunch gya hai

  • @justujuesubhenau2369
    @justujuesubhenau2369 Год назад +1

    عمران خان اور دہشت پسندوں کی مین سٹریمنگ پر سوال کا جواب قطعی غیر تسلی بخش تھا۔

  • @rakeshbarman3486
    @rakeshbarman3486 Год назад +2

    kashmir is and integral part of india and majority kashmiri agree with it all kashmiri parties are gettungvreadt for election, so don't even try to interfere in Indian kashmir cuz soon POK people will get fed up with you guys they already are protesting nobody wants to live with a failed state, and soon POK fate will be like Bangladesh, india don't need to do anything at all , one day POK people will rise like Bangladeshi and india will act like a last nail in the coffin

    • @brs802
      @brs802 Год назад

      Yes brother.

  • @AhmedSultan-hi4gv
    @AhmedSultan-hi4gv 6 месяцев назад

    There is nothing wrong with constitution of Pakistan. Its already Islamic and it encompasses all ingredients of secularism as well. No discrimination on the basis of caste color or religion is to be allowed. However what is lacking is the implementation of constitution in its true spirit. There will be no extremism if the basic concept of social justice as guaranteed in constitution is implemented.

  • @munawarahmadmajoka3736
    @munawarahmadmajoka3736 Год назад +1

    جس نے یہ سب کچھ پھیلایا ہے وہی صاف بھی کر سکتا ہے۔
    بے نظیر کا انجام تمام سیاسی جماعتوں کو خاموش رکھتا ہے۔

  • @trilokarora9296
    @trilokarora9296 Год назад +2

    Ye log bhi bahut ajeeb h. World mei non - muslim governments se inko Sharia chahiye lekin pkstn mei jabb Sharia naafis krne ki baat hoti h toh inko Darr lgta h aur tabb ye log kuchh raastey nikalne ki baat krte h.

  • @amit9023
    @amit9023 Год назад +1

    Pervez hoodboy is nice man minus religion.. But he can't do much.. Once he leave Pakistan then we can expect some sense from him

  • @arupadaisundaram
    @arupadaisundaram Год назад +1

    Most of the viewers for your channel seems to be from India and Pakistanis are not taking these discussions seriously. Your religion seems to be the root of all these problems.

  • @ptjoshipravin3975
    @ptjoshipravin3975 Год назад

    Right sr

  • @anujay81
    @anujay81 Год назад +1

    Whole talk and discussion is hoovering around causes but no cure in sight.

  • @rana123asif
    @rana123asif Год назад +1

    Will non sunni Hoodbhoy condemn n talk about 10 to 25 thousand Zainabyon terrorist recruited by Iran from Pakistan who r mostly back home now after killing thousand of muslims in Syria and Iraq

  • @ipushkarjoshi22
    @ipushkarjoshi22 10 месяцев назад +1

    The issue is that Pakistan itself is paradox.. firstly it was formed on religious basis then the founders wanted it to be secular... Pakistan supports what hijbul Mujahideen and other terrorists are doing in Kashmir and India that is not terrorism.. but consider TTP as terrorists.. even though both use the same religious scripture to justify the actions..

  • @mohammadadilsandhu22
    @mohammadadilsandhu22 Год назад

    Rana sb ❤

  • @dazdoozz3070
    @dazdoozz3070 Год назад

    Doctor sb a humble suggestion: it would be useful if you could reduce the duration of your programs.
    Kind regards

  • @tribhuwanchandrajoshi1078
    @tribhuwanchandrajoshi1078 Год назад

    1.04 "In Pakistan from public no body comes out for Kashmir cause when asked to join the issue" That shows that people of Pakistan in general are more wise and practical than the establishment, political parties etc.
    Sorry for killing of more than 100 persons at a mosque in Peshawar yesterday.