75 years of Pakistan: A Status Report

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  • Опубликовано: 16 ноя 2022
  • In this session of Bazm-e-Taareekh-o-Adab, let’s take a look at where we are standing after 75 years of independence.
    Panelists: Dr. Pervez Hoodbhoy and Hashir Ibne Irshad
    Moderator: Rubina Shaheen

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  • @raheelsiddiqi8285
    @raheelsiddiqi8285 Год назад +652

    One historical correction in this debate: "Muslims were dominant in India at the time of British conquest..." I think Maratha empire (NOT Mughal Empire) was the most dominant force in India when British started their gradual conquest/expansion....

    • @KararaJawaab
      @KararaJawaab Год назад +62

      Wrong! Mughal Empire Was Only Limited To Delhi By That Time.

    • @djawalikar2006
      @djawalikar2006 Год назад +47

      Totally agreed sir. You have pointed it out correctly.

    • @surendrakulkarni2683
      @surendrakulkarni2683 Год назад +65

      Transfer of power happaned from maratha empire to british empire.. technically.. not mughal to british..

    • @damodaran2629
      @damodaran2629 Год назад +38

      @@surendrakulkarni2683 Yes Maratha empire in North and west, Sikh empire in Punjab Sindh and NWFP , The Bengal sultanate in the East. The mughals were only in the area of Delhi.

    • @raheelsiddiqi8285
      @raheelsiddiqi8285 Год назад +35

      There were Muslim rulers in Bengal, Awadh, Hyderabad, Mysore BUT Marathas were the most dominant force in India without any doubt (despite being defeated by Afghans in 1761).

  • @kapilgidwani4735
    @kapilgidwani4735 Год назад +84

    I thank my grandfather that he left Pakistan in 1947 and chose India.

    • @AkashKumar-yt8eh
      @AkashKumar-yt8eh Год назад +3

      You have no idea what he went through!!
      Nobody I mean nobody can even imagine leaving their Birthplace/homeland and u have no idea what he and his family went through, as u r from 2nd generation!!

    • @aajjaayyuk
      @aajjaayyuk Год назад +6

      Varna aajkal aap bhi truck ke piche bhaag rahe hote aate ke liye 😉

    • @aajjaayyuk
      @aajjaayyuk Год назад

      @@AkashKumar-yt8eh it's better to be alive than remembering your stuffs and neighbourhood and die.

    • @an_orange8911
      @an_orange8911 Год назад

      @@aajjaayyuk Minorities ko marnay aur gaumutr peenay say behtr hy phr bhi.

    • @mikesheth5370
      @mikesheth5370 Год назад +3

      Most hindus in sindh were forced to leave Pakistan. Only tribals and bottom working class in sindh were either left alone or couldn’t leave. They had nothing of value which Muslims can loot!

  • @hinduwarrior123
    @hinduwarrior123 Год назад +64

    It is very encouraging to see Pakistanis hosting intellectuals to hold logical discussions such as these! Love from India

    • @anunrealproduction1438
      @anunrealproduction1438 Год назад

      Hard to swallow that Pakistan can produce intellectuals

    • @ragsriches418
      @ragsriches418 Год назад +2

      Agr India Develop ni hota to hum khbi asi discussion ni kr rhe hote. Love from Pakistan

    • @aj_0073
      @aj_0073 Год назад +2

      Your comment is so funny 😂🤣

    • @vickykumar7638
      @vickykumar7638 10 месяцев назад +2

      Pakistan ki barbadi ka mere anusaar sabse bada karan h islam ko sabse upar rakhna or jhoothi history apni bachho ko padhana... Pakistan wahi bhumi h jaha pr achary chaanakya padhe the porasr sikandar ko tough fight diya tha... But inko gajnawi or gori jo akranta the inko puri tarah convert kr diya sirf unka hi gungan karna h... Pakistan ki bhumi to wo pavitra bhumi h jaha biswa ka sabse pahala university tha...

  • @marathanavimumbai2744
    @marathanavimumbai2744 Год назад +13

    Thanks Mr. Jinnha he divided Muslim population in to three India 🇮🇳 Pakistan 🇵🇰 Bangladesh 🇧🇩
    Mucho Gracious Mr. Jinnha 🙏

    • @DipakBose-bq1vv
      @DipakBose-bq1vv 4 месяца назад +1

      The human cost of the partition was immense and still we have not solved it. CAA is a fake attempt to solve it.

  • @yjkbuddy
    @yjkbuddy Год назад +182

    Don't set the culture in the same scale... Every state in India has its own culture...

    • @NandaKumar-bx8qc
      @NandaKumar-bx8qc Год назад +4

      Yes and am amazed that with so much info available they still think India is culture!!!!

    • @rkdixit1245
      @rkdixit1245 Год назад +3

      Language is different but culturally India is one. Vedas are respected everywhere.

    • @chandrakanthveluri9860
      @chandrakanthveluri9860 Год назад +9

      @@rkdixit1245 Vedas are respected but that doesn't mean culturally we are similar, we are similar in philosophy. In South we don't ask our women to wear goonghat.

    • @Moonuuu
      @Moonuuu Год назад

      Radical Islamist destoy their country

    • @Moonuuu
      @Moonuuu Год назад

      @@chandrakanthveluri9860 You guys don't wear hijaab.

  • @singhp85
    @singhp85 Год назад +70

    This is such GOLD! Love this kind and quality of conversations!!🇮🇳

    • @Bluesmiley05
      @Bluesmiley05 Год назад

      This is trash.. they can't talk about their real history bcz that defeats the purpose of creating a separate country and everything they stood for.

    • @globalvillage7655
      @globalvillage7655 Год назад

      Totally agree 👍

    • @manish28june
      @manish28june Год назад

      Funny to see comments only indians are getting exited about this.

    • @savak1994
      @savak1994 Год назад

      Let the knowledge flow from all directions 😊

    • @manish28june
      @manish28june Год назад

      @shlokpaatni3229 they have long way to go everything is their based on lies.

  • @prabhatranjan362
    @prabhatranjan362 Год назад +108

    I feel to good to see that more Indians have watched this intellectual debate than even Pakistanis.

    • @ganeshagarwala5480
      @ganeshagarwala5480 Год назад +20

      Pakistanis are busy watching.. “the thing” that’s not taught to them in universities 🙏🏾

    • @varshu7603
      @varshu7603 Год назад +2

      Lol

    • @DaniyalAhmadNasir
      @DaniyalAhmadNasir Год назад +8

      U r right we Pakistanis are tapping on tiktok lives 😅

    • @harveyspecter111
      @harveyspecter111 Год назад

      @@ganeshagarwala5480 what do you mean by "the thing"

    • @ganeshagarwala5480
      @ganeshagarwala5480 Год назад +1

      @@harveyspecter111 I guess you have not watched the full video

  • @anandabose123
    @anandabose123 Год назад +63

    Am a product of Indian education and also saw what education has done for small town folks. Christian education was what we got but we never forgot our Ram or Allah or Guru Nanak Devji or anyone for that matter….. but between the chappal at home and ruler in school we studied and over a period of time realised that if we study well caste, religion and everything in post 1992 india disappears and given my position of privilege it still does (per year i support 5 kids and each one of them have done something with their economic lives) ….. so education and thank god that everybody in India still believes that education is more important than everything else , has led to the economic uplift ment of millions in India and also the overall economic uplift ment…..

    • @jaibholenath6900
      @jaibholenath6900 Год назад

      U may have got Xian edu.......WE have not

    • @welkin102
      @welkin102 Год назад

      Completely agree with you. Im amazed these are the high level intellectuals of Pakistan. No wonder Pakistan is dying and will soon die. Only way out is to dissolve thier islam ego. Bcz they cant sit on the fence and expect everything to change for good. Doesn't work, has never worked.

    • @PS-ic4bp
      @PS-ic4bp Год назад +1

      @@jaibholenath6900bro my dad walked 5k each way to go to school even in knee deep rain water and this is in the 60s while his cousins played hookey. So if you didnt put in the effort dont expect miracles. The difference in lifestyle between my grandfather and me is like night and day. So feel bad for you but my parents sacrificed everything for our education and expected us to work v v v v hard. What did you, your parents and your grandparents do?

  • @RS-ox1vd
    @RS-ox1vd Год назад +67

    The country which came into existence on the hate of India and Hindus is the first fault line of Pakistan
    Education in Pakistan is dominated by Mullahs and Madrasas and not by science, mathematics, social sciences, engineering etc
    On RUclips you have so many videos where very young children talk about only Islam, hate for Hindus, India, Israel etc This gives how educational programs are taught in schools- anything based on hate will not take the country forward
    In a society where women is treated as second rate citizens and have no rights- the country cannot progress. Any country which thinks they should live as per the practices of 14 th century in treatment of women is doomed to fail

    • @geetasar271
      @geetasar271 Год назад

      👍

    • @9Rehankhan19
      @9Rehankhan19 Год назад

      Are you saying Hindus don’t hate Muslims?

    • @geetasar271
      @geetasar271 Год назад +7

      @@9Rehankhan19 With the passage of time, the thinking of Hindus also changed. Only a few people of the old generation are left, who might be doing Hindu-Muslim discrimination, otherwise nowadays no one believes in discrimination. I am a youth of today's generation who believes in humanistic thoughts.

    • @subhashishbagchi2569
      @subhashishbagchi2569 Год назад +5

      @@9Rehankhan19 Then how come 25 crore Muslims living in India

    • @WheelOfThought
      @WheelOfThought Год назад

      @@9Rehankhan19 Then how Come there is 25 crore Muslims in India?
      How come muslims are more protected in India than anywhere else in the world?
      Then why Mosques built in India are still safe & Sound?
      😂😂😂😂
      Chall be do take ke katwe.. muslims are hated all over the world because of your Superior mentality. Condescending attitude makes you intellectually poor.

  • @UmeshGupta-sh7nj
    @UmeshGupta-sh7nj Год назад +89

    Fertility rate per couple in India is 2.1 and it is 2.9 for Muslims and 1.9 for non Muslims. Population will slowly stabilize. In Bangladesh it is close to 2. Pakistan has fertility rate of 3.9 per couple.

    • @salmanrasheed4366
      @salmanrasheed4366 Год назад +3

      Wrong facts for indian Muslims.

    • @dineshsharma6125
      @dineshsharma6125 Год назад +1

      It's 2.6. Means more muslim in %age in future, thus more fanatics, threat to democracy and True secularism, laws like Shah Bano Halala law would be made. Hindus should embrace for a bad bad future.

    • @dineshshetty875
      @dineshshetty875 Год назад +15

      Jab Allah bacche dethe hai tho lene mai kya harz hai

    • @yjkbuddy
      @yjkbuddy Год назад

      By 2100 all the population of South Asia will be half.. India population wil be reduced by 20% from current one..

    • @anandsengar6602
      @anandsengar6602 Год назад +1

      @@salmanrasheed4366 u give the correct

  • @asdasdasdqwe123
    @asdasdasdqwe123 Год назад +17

    Wow never thought such good discussions can happen in Pakistan. Mind blown 🤯

  • @ramanv.r3422
    @ramanv.r3422 Год назад +20

    Happy to see the increase in the number of attendees. I wish that soon these lectures are held in a big conference hall.

  • @chiraghinduja7466
    @chiraghinduja7466 Год назад +58

    Just noticed one thing from the whole show that there were no questions were raised by women's (I know there were only two women's were sitting in the audience). But i think they should have asked questions on gender equality and the important thing what are their views on burqa & hijab.
    I'm A Sindhi and I thank my great grand father that they didn't choose to live in Sindh-Pakistan, And also i think that why Pakistan is trapped in this situation is because we sindhi's had a great business mind and we focused on education which would be useful for Pakistan if they didn't have threaten us to either convert to Islam or leave Pakistan. So my message to the current youth will be stop assuming India as your enemy and focus on education(Not which is given in madrasa's).Hope the situation will change and in future we will be able to see a bright Pakistan.

    • @VikashKumar-kw5ck
      @VikashKumar-kw5ck Год назад

      In future, there will be no pakistan 🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰😭😎😀😂🤣

    • @Striker-jg9kv
      @Striker-jg9kv Год назад +1

      Lauda bright porkistan 😂😂😂

    • @VikashKumar-kw5ck
      @VikashKumar-kw5ck Год назад

      @@Striker-jg9kv 😭😎😀😂🤣

    • @aishasiddiqa2902
      @aishasiddiqa2902 Год назад +14

      Damn I couldn’t agree with you more. Love how u noticed that how many women were there. THATS SAD. IDK any Sindhis ( not even the Pakistani ones so I have to take your word for how you are describing Sindhis and how they were forced during partition, again don’t know anything about it)
      BUT that being said:
      Not every Pakistani sees india/Indians their enemies and yes I am firm believer in education. We are falling way way behind in education. I was sad to see how many children are missing their school due to flood.
      I do however want to bring it to your attention that not every Pakistani goes to madras. I have seen a lot of Indian comments. I am woman and I have gotten some religious education but never got to finish Quran. Mullahs that I have known
      Don’t know shit about religion. But thank you for an honest comment without being verbally abusive. Thanks 🙏

    • @aishasiddiqa2902
      @aishasiddiqa2902 Год назад +4

      @@user-ajk I don’t want to answer to that since I have mo religious education. I only have some basics and that’s not enough. But no, my mother is an extremely religious woman and I remember she taught us when we were kids that “ Allah insaan ke haqooq maaf nahi karta, apne kar de ga”. The only interpretation I got from that was, insaan pehle ata hai Aur phir khuda”. I was a kid but I also remember whenever we used to go for shopping in Rawalpindi, she would tell me places that belong to Hindus and Sikhs. I never paid attention to it but my religious parents never taught us to hate non-Muslims.

  • @cauliflowerhead2735
    @cauliflowerhead2735 Год назад +6

    Dr.Hoodbhoy is a terrific speaker. I wouldn't be able to speak on such heavy topics at length and that too with this level of calm.

  • @rabisahoopuri
    @rabisahoopuri Год назад +41

    I am surprised not much Pakistani are watching or commenting on this excellent presentation on Pakistan.
    Hope understanding this intellectual discussion doesn't intrest Pakistani. 🙏

    • @vinsin328
      @vinsin328 Год назад

      All the people sitting there are Pakistani. An intellectual discussion doesn't interest Indians also.

    • @indipacifician3693
      @indipacifician3693 Год назад

      reading kuran is injurious to the brain cells

    • @gussivibes8211
      @gussivibes8211 Год назад +17

      They're to celebrating taliban victory 😅😂

  • @bhayo8522
    @bhayo8522 Год назад +279

    Sir, with due respect, inspite of your great erudition and learning, one cannot help but discern subtle shades of the same myth which the rulers of Pakistan perpetuated / are still perpetuating since it's creation , that of the perceived superiority of the Mussalman over the Hindu amongst their citizens, peeking at times in your discourse ( 'Mussalman being the master and Hindus being the servile race when the British arrived in the sub-continent '). If that is still the thought process of the Pakistani intelligentsia, then it is no wonder our two countries struggle for peace even after 75 years of independence.

    • @user045-key77
      @user045-key77 Год назад +39

      The reason paxstan is in perpetual rut.

    • @SkandaTejasw
      @SkandaTejasw Год назад +43

      Yes, superiority in terms of being able to beg like no other has done before. 😂

    • @RealRandomVideos
      @RealRandomVideos Год назад +23

      What are you trying to say? They are indeed experts- in begging..

    • @FirstLast-fj1yp
      @FirstLast-fj1yp Год назад +1

      ultimately he is a mulla what else you can expect from him.

    • @santoshsuresh495
      @santoshsuresh495 Год назад

      True, indoctrinated hatred against Hindus shows their( avg Pakistani) inferiority complex in general

  • @ravish05
    @ravish05 Год назад +6

    The little boy is the future of Pakistan. He was very attentive through the entire session. Great job buddy.

    • @ravish05
      @ravish05 Год назад

      @Syedbakeruddin Bekar I hope it is the former. Hope the generals go back to their barracks.

    • @javeriayounes5458
      @javeriayounes5458 Год назад

      Thank you for your kind words for my son Mr Ravi.

  • @aniketlad1736
    @aniketlad1736 Год назад +9

    What an amazing discussion, truly admire your efforts to telling the truth.
    🙏🙏🙏

  • @Risingworldd
    @Risingworldd Год назад +15

    Fun fact - yaha par 70-80 percent viewers hai Indian !! Yahi 80 percent viewers Pakistani hogi to jrur kuch to change ata Pakistan ma mindset and fact and figures ma

    • @geetasar271
      @geetasar271 Год назад

      👍

    • @rah8985
      @rah8985 Год назад +2

      Wishful thinking at best 😆😂
      Pxatan ki janta se itni umeed kabhi nahi rakhni chahiye.

  • @utube460
    @utube460 Год назад +7

    Great discussion that should be taken as a wake-up (or a shake up) call by all concerned !
    I'm highly impressed & deeply touched by the openion of young man ( actually that 12 yrs old child from audience ) who feels education is the key to the betterment of masses & country ! 👌👌

  • @maheshmalviya6028
    @maheshmalviya6028 Год назад +36

    Dr.Parvejji I am listening you since 4 years and feel grief & gloom for present status of your country. Pichle dino ek achchha comment kahi padne ko mila hai- Yadi 1947 mein sabhi Musalman Pakistan (east& west both) chale jate aur vaha ke sabhi Hindu India- Bharat aa jate to Aaj Bharat USA, Germany, France jaisi progress kar chuka hota aur Pakistan ( both ) Siriya / Somalia ya Yaman jaisa hota.

    • @booksanimeenthusiast3802
      @booksanimeenthusiast3802 Год назад +1

      How can be so sure about india progress when hindu still have caste discrimination.

    • @khushigangwar2798
      @khushigangwar2798 Год назад +6

      @@booksanimeenthusiast3802 caste system, in hindus was not rigid anyone could become brahman or chhatriye as per there ability but cristian missionaries and so called angrez changed it , u can watch saheb by prachyam if you want to know about how britz destroyed us yes us india and and pakistan both

    • @Argdut1106
      @Argdut1106 Год назад +7

      @@booksanimeenthusiast3802 Muslims don't have caste/ community distinctions? Then what is Shia, Sunni, Ahmadiya, Muhajir? Then there's others like Sindhi, Balochi, Kashmiri, Pakhtoon etc. who are almost marginalized and only the Punjabi Muslim reigns supreme.
      "Kaafir kaafir Shia kaafir" k naarey q lagte hain Karachi mein? Do you take us for fools?
      Even if what you say is right, how is it that India is country miles ahead of Pakistan in literally everything other than terrorism? Hindus, despite all their 'caste discrimination' must be doing something right which you so-called great Musalmans aren't, don't you think?

    • @manishsaini9360
      @manishsaini9360 Год назад +1

      @@booksanimeenthusiast3802 Learn About Caste System Properly from Hindu Religious Scriptures.
      The Way it has been practiced in Indian Society is different what Scriptures defined about it.
      **Anyone Can become A Brahmin (An Upper Caste Hindu) by his Deeds. One's Caste is not defined by his/her Birth but By his/her Decisions and Actions**

    • @Soannoyed
      @Soannoyed Год назад +4

      @@booksanimeenthusiast3802 Do we not have cast system in Pakistan? What is Kumhar, Mochi, Taili, Nai, Etc? India is 5th largest economy today and look where do we stand? We are trying to get a billion dollar from the world while they are investing in other countries. Stop embarrassing yourself please!

  • @LootToday
    @LootToday Год назад +8

    I am Indian but i learned lots from this podcast.

  • @Cape_Crusader
    @Cape_Crusader Год назад +9

    Any Pakistan debate is incomplete without India😆😆.

  • @abhinavsingh2032
    @abhinavsingh2032 Год назад +32

    This is a group of courageous people, beyond doubt... Liked your work sir...🙂

    • @dineshsharma6125
      @dineshsharma6125 Год назад +4

      Ask him earth ids flat or not in Quran, he wussies out by saying I don't know Arabic. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Too brave, but no too brave.

    • @praveenpoonia301
      @praveenpoonia301 Год назад +1

      O courageous,,,what so courageous about them

    • @abhinavsingh2032
      @abhinavsingh2032 Год назад +1

      @@dineshsharma6125 I agree ... ..
      But then i suppose, one has too be diplomatic to keep his tenure in an institution in a highly radicalized society.

    • @abhinavsingh2032
      @abhinavsingh2032 Год назад

      @@praveenpoonia301 They r talking ! ....
      Near Rawalpindi ...🙂

    • @praveenpoonia301
      @praveenpoonia301 Год назад

      @@abhinavsingh2032 that's why they didn't mentioned any general name specifically,, they are the ultimate source of corruption in that country,,, खैर भाड़ में जाए ये और इनके डॉलर खोर जर्नल,,,

  • @vherlekar
    @vherlekar Год назад +16

    For most Pakistanis, all these issues raised here (SORRY to say) are Miniscule... Because they are waiting for "Khalid bin Waleed" to come along -- who will WIN over the whole Barr-e-Sagheer (the Sub-continent) and COMPENSATE for everything under Islamic Nizam!!
    For last many years, until even today this is believed to be "Amr bil Mahroof" Amir ul Momineen Hazrat Imran Khan Niazi....
    Even If he fails, they will wait for someone else...
    Until then guys here at this program -- have all your such discussions (ALL EXCELLENT by the way), but the writing is CLEARLY on the wall...
    If (and this is a HUGE "If") this trend is reversed it'll be the equivalent of the coming of the "Anti-Christ" ...😉

    • @AbhaySingh-ke7ej
      @AbhaySingh-ke7ej Год назад +1

      Soo true😂😂😂

    • @PS-ic4bp
      @PS-ic4bp Год назад

      😂😂😂😂😂 wonderful succinct observation

  • @chitrabhanubose1307
    @chitrabhanubose1307 Год назад +2

    I am an Indian, Bengali Hindu. I am really learning a lot from this discussion. Knowlegde sharing

  • @oswald1555
    @oswald1555 Год назад +12

    I wonder why there is no Pakistani comments when it's great informative video about Pakistan only. Cm'on guys share your thoughts, it would be healthy discussion 🤝

    • @VikashKumar-kw5ck
      @VikashKumar-kw5ck Год назад +6

      Bhai, ye sab baate unhe samajh nhi aati, vo log madarsachhaap hai 👍👍👍👍👍

    • @Striker-jg9kv
      @Striker-jg9kv Год назад +6

      Yeh sab islam ke khilaf hai , le bol diya ab khush ho jaa 😂😂

    • @rakeshbarman3486
      @rakeshbarman3486 Год назад +1

      dude no pakistani is interested in such discussion, only Indians watch such discussion of pakistani intellectual

    • @affanhassanxd4821
      @affanhassanxd4821 Год назад

      @@rakeshbarman3486 Just like Pakistanis watch indian liberals videos, where indians mostly lack. You like our liberals. We like your liberals.

    • @rakeshbarman3486
      @rakeshbarman3486 Год назад +2

      @@affanhassanxd4821 lol 😆 I follow our liberal channels, Pakistani are nowhere to be seen btw and nowadays nobody I'd liberal, everyone belongs to a spectrum, Pakistani don't watch such videos at all they will instead watch imran khan rally and speeches , or drama like ertugral ,
      which shows your countries state of affairs ,

  • @somnathde8680
    @somnathde8680 Год назад +3

    Quality topic being discussed.
    Thanks.

  • @tradeagleinvader5285
    @tradeagleinvader5285 Год назад +12

    Parvez bhai is so good. Story of Pakistan explained so well. Aamdani Athanni Kharcha Rupaiyya! Alas there will be more Indians listening and appreciating him than his own Pakistani countrymen.

  • @virafmehta4296
    @virafmehta4296 4 месяца назад +1

    This 12 year old boy needs to be nurtured. I have seen him in some other The Black Hole programs, and have been very, very impressed with his intellect. Please do not let such a talent go to waste.

  • @sardarkhan6987
    @sardarkhan6987 Год назад +1

    Thank you so much for this discussion. I grew up watching politicians verbally and sometimes physically fight each other on tv shows. This kind of intellectual discussion is a breath of fresh air. I hope this thought-provoking platform grows and brings the necessary change in our society. I will definitely be a part of the audience the next time I am in Islamabad.

  • @user-Ex..religious
    @user-Ex..religious Год назад +26

    Pakistan ka masla kya
    La ilah illalah

    • @mohsinafzaal7159
      @mohsinafzaal7159 Год назад +11

      You nailed it!

    • @dineshsharma6125
      @dineshsharma6125 Год назад +21

      Imagine some Nomadic turk attacks you, does all the bad stuff, 600 years later you are their fan boys.

    • @mohsinafzaal7159
      @mohsinafzaal7159 Год назад +11

      @@dineshsharma6125 I know what you are saying and I do NOT consider them as my heroes but most of us do and that is so crazy…..

    • @KararaJawaab
      @KararaJawaab Год назад +6

      @@mohsinafzaal7159 That’s The Biggest Problem.

    • @surendrakulkarni2683
      @surendrakulkarni2683 Год назад

      Factual history is Need of this decade...

  • @manish28june
    @manish28june Год назад +4

    600 Madarse to 400,000 madarse in 75 years .Thats is the root cause of problem.

    • @PS-ic4bp
      @PS-ic4bp Год назад

      Yeah hilarious how nobody talks about the elephant in the room.

  • @imranfarooqui4240
    @imranfarooqui4240 Год назад +1

    Zabardas bari achi effort he aap logon ki thank you 👍👏💕

  • @nazarhanafi1486
    @nazarhanafi1486 Год назад

    Hoodbhoy
    What a great assessment.
    ہر شاخ پر الو بیٹھا ہے،
    انجام گلستاں کیا ہوگا۔

  • @fahadyousafzi
    @fahadyousafzi Год назад +3

    What an Insightful session 👏 Sir Irshad should also have his own youtube channel where he engage with his audience

  • @somnathde8680
    @somnathde8680 Год назад +4

    Great initiative. Appreciated from India.

  • @neerajchoudhary3709
    @neerajchoudhary3709 Год назад +2

    wow, such a honest and insightful conversation.

  • @sharadchandakacherla8268
    @sharadchandakacherla8268 Год назад +7

    28:24, the brits took over from the Marathas sir. then remaining from the Sikh kingdom . Mughals were long gone and just present in a titular kingdom around delhi

    • @ibps794
      @ibps794 Год назад

      Under the pension of Marathas .

  • @5911_Rockets
    @5911_Rockets Год назад +6

    2:03:37
    True words
    I have never seen such an intellectual person in Pakistan
    Love you sir from 🇮🇳

  • @pulakmondal4025
    @pulakmondal4025 10 месяцев назад +1

    It is good to see such kind of quality conversation among intellectuals in Pakistan,but their voice is minuscule.

  • @colakmenon
    @colakmenon Год назад +1

    An excellent debate. With such forward thinking luminaries, the future of Pakistan has got hope.

  • @5911_Rockets
    @5911_Rockets Год назад +6

    43:33
    The reason why Pakistan will never develop
    They never want to hear the reality and always try to show off
    You must need such kind of professors to develop your country
    Respect for proffesor from 🇮🇳❤️🙏

  • @5911_Rockets
    @5911_Rockets Год назад +10

    It is easier to get into harvord than IIT
    I suggest you all to see JEE ADV questions of physics , chemistry and mathematics 🙏🙏
    Many toppers of iit easily crack the Americas toughest exams to get in to MIT🇺🇲
    I love the thought of that Little child. education is the only thing which can give you the development and progress

    • @itsraj244
      @itsraj244 Год назад

      When it was discussed in the way ?

    • @gauravipal9518
      @gauravipal9518 11 месяцев назад

      Do all people from IIT who apply to MIT for masters get admission? No.

  • @sureshjatawat9763
    @sureshjatawat9763 Год назад +2

    Happy to see indians are watching these kind of intellectual discussions of Pakistan more than Pakistanis .

  • @mohsinafzaal7159
    @mohsinafzaal7159 Год назад +7

    Excellent discussion as always ❤️ Enjoyed it thoroughly 😊

  • @arunsnmimtimt
    @arunsnmimtimt Год назад +7

    Its indeed happy to see a young boy curious about the future of the country. May there be peace between the borders and I hope one day myself and my family including my small kids can visit Karachi,Islamabad ....and enjoy the food, music and affection from the people..I also want to plant some trees as well... I strongly believe a new generation will come who can settle these issues like a piece of cake and have no hatred in heart.

    • @antarakmit4114
      @antarakmit4114 Год назад +2

      You have a very gentle soul Arun,
      May god bless you and your family.

    • @chandrakanthveluri9860
      @chandrakanthveluri9860 Год назад +1

      @@antarakmit4114 Not only him bro. But most of us Indians are like that only. Ask Bajwa and Sharif to fly together to Delhi and ask for help and see the response from our side whether it may be govt or people. U were us just 75 years ago so we don't have any hard feelings.

    • @antarakmit4114
      @antarakmit4114 Год назад

      @@chandrakanthveluri9860 chutie main bhi indian ich hun
      #hyderabadi

    • @chandrakanthveluri9860
      @chandrakanthveluri9860 Год назад

      @@antarakmit4114 Isme chutiya bolne ki kya jarurat hai. Ur comment seemed as if u never came across any sane Hindu in ur entire life which made me comment that way.

    • @shivam_nagar69
      @shivam_nagar69 10 месяцев назад

      no hatred? what he said on muslim rulers being dominant is shit af

  • @rkdixit1245
    @rkdixit1245 Год назад +1

    Undoubtedly best Pakistani U-tube channel.

  • @JohnWick-uj4gh
    @JohnWick-uj4gh Год назад +2

    I had been listening to Stalwarts like Parvez Hoodbhoy. Infact i met him once in Delhi too. We love u Sir ❤️

  • @pranshusinghal7320
    @pranshusinghal7320 Год назад +3

    What an insightful, honest and intellectual conversation. As an Indian, this changes my perception of Pakistan. The situation seems dire, but I'm glad to hear there are people who think rationally and are able to look at the problems at hand objectively.
    Big up to the moderator, she really kept the conversation going and had her own very valuable inputs. Subscribing in the hope for learning more.

  • @vherlekar
    @vherlekar Год назад +9

    Hoodbhoy sahab summarizes it PERFECTLY i.e "The MAIN crises for Pakistan is that there is NO CRISIS...!! " - for which they can get $$$ from Amreeka - like they did in the 80s (Zia) and post 9/11 (Musharaff)

    • @PS-ic4bp
      @PS-ic4bp Год назад

      Abhi they will be busy planning another 9/11 and blame it on Afghanistan 😂

  • @vherlekar
    @vherlekar Год назад +2

    Very good program!
    My compliments to ALL participants.
    Was actually expecting at least ONE discordant note from the audience on the basis of islam/Sharia etc etc

  • @seventhquarter
    @seventhquarter Год назад +2

    So very analytical yet convincing... wish this understanding percolated well to the common mass rather than limiting itself to a confined room..!!!

  • @bpbadola7906
    @bpbadola7906 Год назад +5

    Scientific temperament is part and parcel of Hinduism. It emphasized equally on on the subject of gyan (spirituality) and vigyan (sciences). Hence, please don't equate Hindus as simply hunkering for British clerical jobs. Ayurveda and yoga were not British knowledge systems and such many more.

    • @SeekerInBharat
      @SeekerInBharat Год назад

      Sir, this is too much to expect from them. A whole country who is either wishfully not willing to accept or completely ignorant cannot be expected to understand the greatness of Bhartiya civilisation!

    • @chandrakanthveluri9860
      @chandrakanthveluri9860 Год назад +1

      @@SeekerInBharat Don't worry bro they are going acknowledge this as well.

  • @sagarsarraf859
    @sagarsarraf859 Год назад +2

    My god Pervez sir is such an intellectual , sensible,and humble person .I can listen him for hours... Love from india🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳

  • @himanshuvora9378
    @himanshuvora9378 Год назад +6

    Great to see and hear this high quality standards of conversation but unfortunately after the 10 days only 6 thousand people watch this video

  • @ssmujoo
    @ssmujoo Год назад +1

    Very thought provoking discussion.

  • @annnilsson501
    @annnilsson501 Год назад

    Thanks for Very valuable topic ♥️

  • @LaxmikantKachhap
    @LaxmikantKachhap Год назад +3

    This was a good discussion video.
    I don't usually watch such vids but it was great so I was sticking till the last min.
    Now I understand why my government doesn't even want to engage with Pakistan.

    • @sharadmishra5596
      @sharadmishra5596 Год назад

      Terrorism is the bottom line.. engagement means another plan for 26/11!!

    • @PS-ic4bp
      @PS-ic4bp Год назад

      Watch Modi in 2019 - “we have wasted enough time on Pakistan. Lets move forward - we need to catch up with the superpowers”

  • @abhishekpratapsingh3303
    @abhishekpratapsingh3303 Год назад +5

    I am surprised to see that Pakistan have such wise men. Good to know at least someone in Pakistan knows their problems.

    • @manish28june
      @manish28june Год назад +2

      They are same as others . They are just talking nicely .Still they didn't get the point . Mainly their approach since from the beginning is to take from someone then earn .Now they don't have power so they started bagging .They need to learn from Bangladesh how is coming along with india and they are doing well.

    • @kishwarsakina5173
      @kishwarsakina5173 Год назад

      It means that you have been seeing only Pakistani' politics so far..😄we do have very intellectual academicians here

    • @manish28june
      @manish28june Год назад

      @@kishwarsakina5173 what's your view on kasmeer ? Show your intelligence.

  • @KaramjitSingh-yv6tj
    @KaramjitSingh-yv6tj 3 месяца назад

    Sir , as always, great to hear from you

  • @reg4026
    @reg4026 4 месяца назад +1

    I can't imagine the situation after 150 years of Pakistan.

  • @surinderchugh
    @surinderchugh Год назад +8

    Ha ha, Punjab University (Lahore) was far better than Delhi University at that time. Do the comparison today again PU (Pakistan) vs DU (India).

  • @AbhaySingh-ke7ej
    @AbhaySingh-ke7ej Год назад +10

    Shame on paxtan for not watching this.Even here Indians are kicking 😂😂😂😂

    • @truenorth8414
      @truenorth8414 Год назад +3

      Oh bhai wahan par logon ke pas paani tak nahi hai peene ke liye aur buhot log bhook ke shikar hue hain. Aap ko lagta hai woh 2 gante ke video dehkenge RUclips pe? Woh din guzaar ke shaam tak ponch jaye yehi badhi baat hai.
      Main Pakistani hoon likin mujhe is video ki sari information pehle se pata hai. Shayed isiliye mere parents Pakistan chodh kar Canada shift hogaye the.
      Pata nahi kabh Pakistan azaad hoyga….

  • @abherajsingh5952
    @abherajsingh5952 Год назад

    very interesting programme, i watch with great interested.

  • @northerncircars
    @northerncircars Год назад +1

    Sir the black board can be divided into two half vertically, right side of the board can be used for writing. Left side can be used for program details.

  • @naadanparinda9056
    @naadanparinda9056 Год назад +13

    Can we somehow ask Pervez sir to move to India and become ours?
    Clearly not many people gives respect to gems like him in Pakistan, and I think Indians could make good use of his talent.
    (Though we don't have scarcity of talents here but the more the merrier).
    P.S. I know Pervez sir is a staunch patriot and is risking everything for betterment of his country only.

    • @praveenpoonia301
      @praveenpoonia301 Год назад +6

      तू तो सच में बहुत नादान है

    • @naadanparinda9056
      @naadanparinda9056 Год назад +1

      @@praveenpoonia301 thanks

    • @N-invincible
      @N-invincible Год назад +5

      @@praveenpoonia301 lol..he really has no idea that that once a muslim always a muslim and jihadi aswell

    • @msdolly6101981
      @msdolly6101981 Год назад +3

      He might be a good scientist, but please remember he is still a pakistani. Pakistans biggest problem is their mindset . Even the most educated aren't able to get out of this bias towards India.

    • @praveenpoonia301
      @praveenpoonia301 Год назад

      @@msdolly6101981 200% correct you took my word

  • @ravish05
    @ravish05 Год назад +3

    If I were a Pakistani I would have been in a depression clinic.

  • @UNthatisme
    @UNthatisme Год назад +1

    Such debates and interactive programs should be spread far and wide in Pakistan for the country to come to terms with reality and do course corrections. A growing Pakistan a peaceful Pakistan will be good for the world.

  • @user-se2mu5fx7z
    @user-se2mu5fx7z 5 месяцев назад

    Professor Parvez sb ko extra time milna chahye. He has got tons of knowledge.

  • @SP.05
    @SP.05 Год назад +3

    39:10 The Slum's name is DHARAVI... but its not a miserable place.. just visit it to feel the Entrepreneurial Energy of that place. Its a Thriving Business Ecosystem
    Just that it's sitting on some of the most expensive piece of real estate in the world.
    And FYI a 17 yr DHARAVI REDEVELOPMENT tender has just been sold to ADANI for ₹5000 Cr (Indian Rupees)

    • @Bengalifirst
      @Bengalifirst Год назад

      Slum is by default bad ! It’s sub par way of life .

  • @shankysays
    @shankysays Год назад +4

    its sad that pakistani are not watching this, rather all i see are indian comments.

  • @bedarbakhtkhan3650
    @bedarbakhtkhan3650 20 дней назад

    The beacon of inspiration of these three intellectual ❤

  • @nationalandinternational-jm1yw
    @nationalandinternational-jm1yw Год назад +2

    I am totally agree..I am 23 year old girl and mother of two kids .I was 18 when I got married and was second year student...I did masters in management science through virtual university of Pakistan and get 3.2 gpa last in 2022...now I am not allowed to move toward city bcz I live in village and there are no jobs in my village.i am not allowed to do job in banks..so I wanna ask question.what is the benefit of getting 3.2 gpa? There is no job for me? I need money to survive I want to learn skill but look at me..I am here to produce more babies and increase population of country...what Pakistan gives me??

    • @yashpednekar331
      @yashpednekar331 6 месяцев назад

      Sorry to know this. You are younger than my youngest son, so feel for you. But don’t lose hopes. You need to revolt for your better future. Be brave and fight against the old useless customs. In India women revolt they got good support from men leaders who were visionary. Now look Indian women are doing well internationally. Be strong and fight for the good cause. Say no to produce more children. Wish u good luck

  • @HGB987
    @HGB987 Год назад +3

    I am not a muslim but watching this video I learned a lot about Pakistan. Very intellectual discussion. Still it is possible for Pakistan to get on the development track if change comes in the political structure and focus on people and development of younger generation. Let us hope for a change.

  • @dilbagsingh6406
    @dilbagsingh6406 Год назад +1

    Both lecture ers are great legends

  • @mtarkes
    @mtarkes Год назад

    Wonderful to see so many women in the discussion.

  • @kamleshchotaliya7408
    @kamleshchotaliya7408 Год назад +2

    Full egreation full emotion Dr perwoz hoodboy. Face read Pakistan true inteluctel love respect Dr shab

  • @syedahmed131
    @syedahmed131 Год назад +4

    It's an honour listening to this legend

    • @unknownindian6531
      @unknownindian6531 11 месяцев назад

      Unfortunately his speeches show that he is a muslim

  • @lochanbundela3570
    @lochanbundela3570 Год назад +3

    In Calcutta university as quoted by sir the number of Muslim students were 2 to the ratio 500 Hindu University.
    Today in 2022 when you are pondering over the education technology issue of Muslims, it's pitiable to see 2scholars one anchor, handful audience in a primitive classroom, this itself speaks volumes about your population and religious mind set
    D

  • @NSriramIyer
    @NSriramIyer Год назад

    One of the very few intellectual people who is still based in Pakistan. . Respect Dr sir a lot.

  • @shabbirahmeddar7765
    @shabbirahmeddar7765 Год назад +1

    Very original debate on economic ills of pakistan. All the participant have grip on what ails pakistani economic problems.

  • @VikashKumar-kw5ck
    @VikashKumar-kw5ck Год назад +11

    Jab history hi wrong batao jaa rahi hai phir pakistan 🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰 kaise progress karega, ek baat aur Pakistaniyon 🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰 ki soch bahut chhoti aur nich hai chahe professor ho yaa amm aadmi 👍👍👍👍👍

    • @PS-ic4bp
      @PS-ic4bp Год назад

      Yeah their self delusion would be hilarious if it wasn’t so tragic

  • @victordashmohapatra3546
    @victordashmohapatra3546 Год назад +8

    Despite being Indian, I have huge respect for Dr. Parveez Hoodboi, its unfortunate that India lost such teachers to partition.

    • @Salmonellatyphi
      @Salmonellatyphi Год назад +9

      We have better teachers though

    • @kanaka7552
      @kanaka7552 Год назад +4

      Toh who is stopping you from going there and make them your teachers?

    • @Salmonellatyphi
      @Salmonellatyphi Год назад +1

      @@kanaka7552 indians get overwhelmed by chhoti chhoti things you know

    • @andhbhaktaurmadrsowalokima1826
      @andhbhaktaurmadrsowalokima1826 Год назад

      @@Salmonellatyphi now madrsa chap is talking about education 😁

    • @Salmonellatyphi
      @Salmonellatyphi Год назад

      @@andhbhaktaurmadrsowalokima1826 means you??

  • @mehfilezareen
    @mehfilezareen 7 месяцев назад

    پروفیسر ڈاکٹر ہود بھائی ! یہ استادوں والا انداز ❤❤❤

  • @R.kandaswamy
    @R.kandaswamy Год назад +2

    Why no Land Reforms are introduced in Pakistan till now? Land Reforms are first step towards progress.

  • @nikhildeshmukh6221
    @nikhildeshmukh6221 Год назад +5

    I wish such liberal people ruled pakistan in politics

    • @vinsin328
      @vinsin328 Год назад

      You should not worry about Pakistan. You should worry about your own country. Are liberals ruling your own country? What do you mean by liberals by the way?

    • @nikhildeshmukh6221
      @nikhildeshmukh6221 Год назад +5

      @@vinsin328 well atleast I'm proud libreals run my country for 5 decades and set strong base for secular nation......no religious fundamentalism can make any harm to it now.....unlike your country where they took over from the beginning,and still confused weather jinnah wanted Islamic republic or secular country (i forget date for his takreer for minorities)

    • @balendrasingh2696
      @balendrasingh2696 Год назад +4

      @@nikhildeshmukh6221 kise samjha rha h bhai 😂

    • @rah8985
      @rah8985 Год назад

      @@nikhildeshmukh6221 Bhai kin ko samjha raha hai ? 😂😆
      Inke paxtan mein koi bhi aaye loot hi machayenge.. itne saal mein bhi inko yeh baat nahi samjh aayi hai ,tum hum kya samjhenge ab inko .
      Gallery mein baitho and enjoy their circus 😜

    • @percentbigfoot
      @percentbigfoot Год назад

      @@vinsin328 this attitude is the problem.
      You think you're free from criticism? What has your nation turned into and still you let arrogance blind you, and yes india is not perfect but India will never be extremist like your country because from childhood we are not taught to see ourselves as superior or different, we are taught to be united and keep humanity first.
      So no amount of politics can alter that.. it's your country you need to worry about, we have the time to rectify our mistakes, in your case it's running out much faster.

  • @arijeetbhattacharya5972
    @arijeetbhattacharya5972 Год назад +3

    Prisoners of History LECTURES 😅
    Totally confused what to do next ??

  • @pritpalsingh1578
    @pritpalsingh1578 Год назад

    Excellent Program.

  • @giridharkatikapalli9894
    @giridharkatikapalli9894 Год назад +1

    I accept with the economy expert for solutions to come out of crisis. Sensible person.

  • @nikhilmudaliar2501
    @nikhilmudaliar2501 Год назад +5

    Topic on Pakistan, comments section taken over by Indians lol

  • @VikashKumar-kw5ck
    @VikashKumar-kw5ck Год назад +9

    Whole session dekha lekin ek bhi woman ne sawal nhi puchha, bhala pakistan 🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰 kaise progress kar sakta hai 😭😎😀😂🤣

    • @kanaka7552
      @kanaka7552 Год назад

      Let’s focus on our country’s progress and let them focus on their country’s. Tell me what rights a regular woman in India has? Are we actively working on improving their living and safety?

    • @VikashKumar-kw5ck
      @VikashKumar-kw5ck Год назад

      @@kanaka7552 yes we are improving and providing every thing with all the facilities security and power and enlightenment, I am talking about our Sanatan Dharm's women 👍👍👍👍👍, jahan tak peaceful community walo ka puchhoge toh mujhe nhi pata 😭😎😀😂🤣

    • @kanaka7552
      @kanaka7552 Год назад +1

      @@VikashKumar-kw5ck who are you to provide? Are you letting them live on their own terms like you get to live on your own terms?

    • @VikashKumar-kw5ck
      @VikashKumar-kw5ck Год назад

      @@kanaka7552 we are providing ka matalab ye nhi ki hum personally de rahe hai balki hamari govt de rahi hai 👍👍👍👍, kya hoga yr tumhara😀😂🤣
      Edit: sorry for the harsh words that I used earlier in this comment, I have improved my mistake 👍👍👍👍👍
      Jai maa Durga 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🥀🌷🌺🌼💮🌸🌼💮🌸🌱

    • @kanaka7552
      @kanaka7552 Год назад +1

      @@VikashKumar-kw5ck that’s a nice way of speaking to a female. You still have a long way to go before you point fingers at the others. Let’s go to work!

  • @ramanithyagarajan2304
    @ramanithyagarajan2304 Год назад +2

    Excellent meaningful debate....possible eye opener for Pakistan...more focus and priority should be given for Primary & Secondry education...that is the only way forward for the future..and prosperity...pl spend more money and time on education and most importantly should keep the religion private (at home only).Do not mix with all issues....god save the citizens. 👌👌🇮🇳

  • @rajatrao
    @rajatrao Год назад +3

    Great Analysis by Gentlemen, however unpleasant to see the Audience in Auditorium yawning.

  • @blazingsun8862
    @blazingsun8862 Год назад +4

    We as Pakistanis should do everything possible to educate our people. We need to ask ourselves what can we do as individuals to educate others and upskill ourselves.

    • @indipacifician3693
      @indipacifician3693 Год назад

      You anyway read quran 5 times a day and you have IMAAAAN JAZBAAAA and KHUDAAA. I hope you all rot in the pit of karma which you yourself have sown thanks to the evil poisonous ideology called islam

    • @serotonin0527
      @serotonin0527 Год назад

      With increasing radicalization, segmentation and without empowerment of females... no education could be possible in real sense !

  • @harmangupta3437
    @harmangupta3437 Год назад +1

    What a dabet
    Very knowledgeable

  • @ankit30572
    @ankit30572 Год назад +2

    Dr. Pervez sir is a vert great and humble personality 🙏😇😇 May God bless you sir🙏😇😇

  • @MyKarur
    @MyKarur Год назад +1

    The young lad in the audience hit the nail on the head' Change education to change the country!"

  • @bestreply2650
    @bestreply2650 Год назад +4

    its sad ...one science teacher ...has to teach ...economics to the pakistani "aawaam"

  • @5911_Rockets
    @5911_Rockets Год назад +8

    39:29
    Chcha ji dharavi redevelopment plan is started now☺️
    And i appreciate your work sir to give some knowledge to Pakistanis although these kind of people are very less in pakistan 🙏