It is weird that the R7 had problems focusing at minus four stops. I tested it out on my R7, no problem. The EVF was pitch-black, but as soon as I pressed the AF-ON button, the screen lit up for a split second and grabbed focus. You did not mention one of the most important factors in deciding on a camera, and that is lens choice. The fact that Canon has very few APS-C lenses and no third-party lenses means that people are better off going into the Sony system if they are first-time buyers.
The lack of a proper lens selection in RF mount made me choose the A6700 ! If someone chooses APSC it's not for being carrying RF full frame glass which are heavy, bulky and way too expensive ! You should test the A6700 with some Sigma or Tamron APSC lenses ;-) Even Viltrox has some amazing glass for that camera, the 27mm f/1.2 and the 75mm f/1.2 are brilliant ! I'm actually considering to buy a second A6700 !
Independently if you like Sony or Canon, I believe the canon looks a lot better due to fact that it has the view finder on the center, which makes the camera more symmetrical, and symmetry at least to me is beauty.
This is a very nice comparison, thank you very much! I benefited from this r7 vs a6700, because it not only compares the cameras, it also reveals the design decision differences between two companies, which is what I needed more. Cameras change but design decisions are more likely to stay.
20:26 the comparison is not correct. Why is there no lighting under the cabinet in the Canon shot, but on the Sony there is lighting under the cabinet? Different light setup.
Great comparison with highly practical real world comparisons. I have the Canon R7, (and a Nikon Z50). For me, the biggest issue potential buyers should consider is what lenses will you want. Both the Canon and Nikon apsc models are hamstrung by a lack of quality apsc lens offerings. So I’m looking at either this Sony or the Fuji X-S20 to be able to build out a with quality lenses to have a system that is versatile for a variety of uses. I’m increasingly suspecting Canon and Nikon just won’t build out their apsc cameras and lenses like what Sony and Fuji users have to choose from.
Why do you have to use APS-C lenses ??? I have a couple of really nice EF L-glass lenses that work very well on my R7's.... Although I hardly use them anymore, as I hardly do landscapes anymore. I'm pretty much a hard-core bird guy nowadays, so my RF 800 F11 stays glued to my R7. 1280mm equivalent. For myself, this is the best combo money can buy, from any manufacturer. I know Sony makes some fantastic equipment. Its too bad they don't make an 800mm. If Sony really wants to make me consider jumping ship, they need to make something like Nikon's PF 800 F6.3. Nikon doesn't make a nice, new APS-C to put that lens on. But Sony already does, so...
@@MARK-wt9cd Okay. I suppose if one didn't already have nice EF glass. But I bought those a long time ago. And as far as weight goes, NONE of these little wide angle zooms are very heavy anyway, when your a birder, and considering, or using lenses that weight anywhere from 3 to 8 lbs.
@@Chris_Wolfgram good point, if you have an old lenses in certain eco system then it does make sense to stay with the brand but for those who'll from scratch and the option are canon r7, sony a6400 and fuji xs20. It's a wise choice to go with either sony or fuji apsc, you can get a quality lens both zoom and prime lenses from 3rd party brands for a reasonable price. example: sigma 18-50 f2.8, tamron 17-70 f2.8, sigma trio prime and the viltrox 75mm 1.2, which is not an option to RF mount camera. RF lenses are really expensive, even EF L line up lenses.
The buffering depends a great deal on the card used. Using a v90 card on my a6700 I can get around 115 compressed RAW frames before it hesitates rather than the 40 you mentioned. I would assume the Canon would would do more with the same card, but just sayin'.....
Depends as well if compressed (lossless) raw is enabled on the Sony or not. I'm not sure what they enabled for the test, however. In any case, I don't know a single reason one would use uncompressed raw with this camera. The Canon has lossless compressed raw, too, by the way.
When I first researched into mirrorless cameras, Sony's A6xxx took the cake, Sony had zoom lenses from 10-18, 18-200, 18-135, and 70-350. Canon and Nikon had limited zoom lenses. The zoom lenses are not as sharp as the prime lenses, but the photos are adequate for my purposes, because I shoot stage productions from an audience seat that has limited mobility. ETA since I shoot in low-ligth, the A6700 sometimes hunt for the correct focus point, and it results in about 10% of the photos being out of focus. BTW I turned off the focusing aid light because it was distracting for the performers.
I have both cameras and I use them mostly for bird photography and there is no winner. They both have pros and cons and it also depends on the lens you use. If I could combine the two cameras into one, I'd use the R7 body and A6700 sensor. R7 has better handling and A6700 has (slightly) better IQ in higher ISO. For travel I'd choose A6700.
@@trinahuckHi, I use Sigma 100-400 (with E-mount) and I am happy with it, however, if you want to spend more the better option is Sony 100-400 or Sony 200-600. The are native lenses and their auto-focus is faster. I wouldn't recommend any other brand lenses with converter - too slow for bird photography.
Since these cameras are used for birds and wildlife and macro unless the Sony has pre-capture and focus bracketing I think the R7 is ahead. I also like the form factor and the deep grip and the feel of the R7 in my hand compared to a little boxy mini camera. I also like the additional ability to crop with the R7.
Great video, and good pair of cameras. The Sony has a new sensor were the Canon has the older 90D sensor which has been tweaked. The Sony sensor has a faster read than the R7 and this shows in the comparisons tests. Especially banding and the AF speed which is all done by the sensor on mirrorless cameras.
Photos taken with a6700 are just sharper. There's a video comparing R7 and the R6 (mark I), and every single picture taken with the R7 is slightly more blurry than the one taken with the R6. The same can be observed here. No mater which lens you use with the R7, the images will lack that critical sharpness. I think this is the reason a6700 performs better with higher ISO. When you compare noise level in the background, both camera seem to perform similar, but when you zoom on the eye, the a6700 looks sharper.
The Canon has a higher resolving sensor. They appear more noisy but tend to offer more to work with in post-processing for AI noise reduction. Would be interesting to see a comparison how the end result of that looks. This banding, however is quite a problem. By the way, I suspect another reason the Sony is sharper is a weaker aliasing filter. Since it is derived from the Sony A7R line. This can cause more moiré. However, for that, it needs a lens that outperforms the sensor. I haven't seen anybody testing this yet. I would test it, but none of my lenses is sharp enough for that.
Great comparison thank you very much. Regarding the dynamic range, pay attention to the shot (comparison of stabilizations) 14:28, the dynamic range of the highlights on the A6700 is much better, the R7 is unusable. Besides, Canon is very competitive and has a lot of advantages (dual card slot, does not overheat easily like Sony, which allows for longer recording time, etc.), and in my country it is $300 cheaper than Sony, but Sony has a slightly better image quality. A very tough choice.
I like the form factor (smaller and lighter) of the Sony; often preferred the look of the Canon shots, but that is subjective; no question IBIS on the Canon better, but Sony OK on maximum EIS is appears (and of course, if you want to do the extra work it has the option of catalyst browse I think if that can work for you). Both would be a great choice, but I’m so tempted by the Sony. Would love a similar comparison between the Sony and Fuji XS20. Enjoyed the video.. Nicely done!
When comparing dynamic range, the only way to really do it is to compare log curves together. A "graded" Rec709 image has dynamic range "thrown away" in order to bring proper contrast for viewing. Rec709 can only hold 6-8 stops of dynamic range, depending on how "flat" you want the image to look. The more the contrast, the more dynamic range was discarded in order to display a pleasing contrast. These cameras will capture about 12-13 total stops on each photo and you are only comparing the 6-8 "graded out" stops of dynamic range. Comparing a flat log image is the only way to see what these sensors are "really" capturing.
Is canon really better at wildlife photography, I can’t imagine there’ll be a big difference but I don’t know exactly for sure. I like canon colours, but really into Sony in terms of low light and dynamic range; but for fast moving objects they say canon is better. Really torn between these beautiful cameras.
Two concerns here. First is the fact that the R7 has so many focus adjustments and modes. Out of the box the R7 focus is good, but not great. In my opinion. I've helped a lot of people in the different R7 groups set up their focus correctly. You have the selection of one shot or servo, focus points, "cases" that determine the sensitivity to which it releases or locks focus continuously. subject and eye focus, as well as tracking in servo mode. All of these make a huge difference in the success in the focusing of the camera. Next was the noise test I felt that both cameras were a little underexposed. An under exposed image will always produce more noise. And the best way to get the least amount of noise in a high ISO situation is proper exposure as that reduces the noise.
The A6700 AF is really sticky and quick, and even in complex scenarios, it tends to make informed choices on what to focus on. Where it struggles, though, are animals that are small in the image. It can take a bit until it grabs onto them, so there is certainly room for improvement. And I can confirm, since I recently tested it myself, as long as it finds something with contrast to snap onto, it can focus at f11 indoors at 1/30 ISO 6400 (correct exposure) at 300mm without opening the aperture on a non Sony lens (Tamron 18-300).
@@maggnet4829 this is why I have a concern about this review. If you go onto the AF menu and cases in the servo AF sub menu you'll find multiple cases. Each case has different tracking and response / acceleration settings. If you were to select case one and adjust the tracking to say -1 which is more locked on, the auto focus becomes more sticky. At the same time you can adjust how quickly the subject is moving to allow it to stay locked on or release. Most modern cameras have all of these options, and features, and the default settings for one may be good, but not acceptable for another. This can be said, for reviewing or comparing as well. If you say one camera locks on better, do you need to make sure that the other cameras adjustments would not make it better or equal to the other camera?
@jimaudette445 I somewhat agree that it does have an impact, e.g. the Sony A6700 AF is recommended to be set to 4, while the default is 3. The AF becomes a good bit snappier. However, with sticky I mean that you realize that the AF really stays with the subject, even if it rotates and then chooses the best option to focus on. Lets say you have a model looking at you, it right away grabs the eye. Then the model rotates and the eye becomes invisible, the camera instantly switches to focus on the side of the face, the model rotates further and it switches to the back of the head, the model walks away and it stick without letting go even if there is another person in the image. The model crouches down and you don't see the face or head and the focus still sticks to that person.
@@TheSlantedLens I have experience with R7 and it has never overheated on me but my friends who has Sony A6700 are always complaining about it so that’s a big difference between these two cameras that you have missed.
I just got a Sony A6700 last week and I'm really enjoying taking pictures with it. It's such a fun little camera with a very big set of features. Thank you for the excellent videos! Your review of the A6700 made me decide on that particular model! I already had Sony glass so it was the obvious choise for me❤
Did you mention that only Canon R7 is weather sealed and you can literally rinse the sand off, also stills focus hit rate may have been 100% if you slowed canons frames per seconds down to match Sony as the processor has to communicate to sensor and to lens motor between each shutter actuation which the slower Sony had more time to keep focus so not equal grounds in the test.
There are 4 differences in these 2 cameras. The 6700 has better video codecs. Does 4k 120. The R7 will last much longer when used in hotter climates. The R7 is a better action/wildlife camera. Other than that. Anyone who has a clue how to do their job would get the same results with either. But You did need to make a video.
A better action camera because of the frames per second. But when you're shooting football are professional boxing and have to push your ISO to 2600 and your shutter speed to 1250 the Canon doesn't handle that high noise very well Where the Sony dose way better in low light and high iso. So unless your shooting on a bright day shooting fast action sports my be hard on the R7 seeing how it struggles to focus in low light
When you did the focus test with the model walking towards you did you do it just one time for each camera or three times to get an average between the two?
Unless you are shooting continuously like 30-45 minutes, overheating should not an issue. If it is, smallrig came out with a tiny fan can be attached to the back.
@@ESMPRCT and if you are shooting sports it is always over 30 minutes and that actually overheats. in 90F sun, you can get 15 max at 4k without overheating.
Great comparison between the two cameras, I do like the form factor and and look of the Canon, but now the lens options for Canon APS-C line is so underwhelming, in the mean time, Sony with some 3rd party lens companies and rocking this world, in resume Canon has a great camera, but not many lens options for it
Why didn't you talk about sony overheating problem? Inside at 80-85 F 4k 24fps, overheats after 20-30 mins. I mean in most tests, the image quality is a little better on sony, but in real world, in video work, that overheating problem is a big deal breaker for most of people.
Canon has confirmed an autofocus limitation when shooting at 15 frames per second. It’s a limitation of the read speed on the processor. I think that may be why Sony caps the FPS to 11 even in electronic shutter.
Actually, that is not the case. Canon has confirmed that when set to H+ 30 fps in low light, low contrast situation's the auto focus can have difficulties. It still works but you'll have some out of focus frames. Switching to H 20 fps or mechanical shutter 15 fps, and or providing good light and contrast, there is no problem.
But in real world shooting, this is variable. I sometimes take bursts (@ 15 fps) which are nearly all sharp. Other times, in low light / contrast, several will miss, although I still usually end up with a good, sharp, useable one.
Sorry for looking this video. But RUclips suggested it and I couldn´t stop ist, it was too good. But I´m in future to replace my A6400 with the A6700, nice to see that is a good decison.
It seems like you used different apertures at the autofocus test since canon images have more bokeh, therefore it was easier for sony to maintain focus. You also have not clarified which mode you used for autofocus on canon, since it has subject detection and eye af, as well as servo ofc...so i think the autofocus test was badly done.
Your assumptions are without any information. We shot them all on the same aperture, f/2.8. We did use servo on the Canon and eye detect. They were very close to each other. Try watching the whole video to get the whole picture.
Nice job here. Sony's AI is really next level. What's clear, both Canon and Sony are the only choices if you want the best and latest tech in entry-mid level cameras. Where is Nikon? They are increasingly a 2 camera company. Z8 and Z9. Really no contest.
It´s a shame for Sony that a 3 years old difference Canon camera is almost tied in almost all specs even there some specs that Canon R7 goes better, the logic thing takes me to guess next R7 will beat Sony on time for far
People who say canon colors are better and somy are trash are living under rock. Sony color used to be bad, but that was decade ago. And notjing beats sony in video. Buying camera means buying ecosystem . Canon is worst in that. Sony apsc lens are cheap af and there are ton to choose from. Canon is like potato compared to sony.
I think Sony apsc G lenses, other Sony lenses, Sigma, Tamron, so many other third parties and even Zeiss Touit lenses gives Song a6700 a massive edge over R7. The gap is so wide that unless you already are in the Canon R eco-system, it is foolish to buy R7 as a first time buyer.
@@truthseeker6804 No one would buy an apsc for totally casual use. You at least require f2.8 lenses if not f1.4 and f1.8 for that shallow depth of fields and bokeh. the current offerings of Canon apsc lenses would give you only slightly better look than mobile phones. Canon had many ef offerings for apsc line up but right now there apsc lenses are like camcorder lenses.
@@kapilesh14 youre wrong!. Theres two main groups of apsc buyers, first group, people who want compact reach, that is wildlife and sports photographers, this is for their casual use as they have full frame setup for their professional use. for them the r7 and the compact 100-500 is the best compact setup. you can see alot of wildlife photographers all over just type in canon r7. the second group, buys apsc because of prices. that is mostly the beginners. a beginner doesnt need 100 lenses. they can get the canon 50mm1.8, 35mm1.8, 16mm f2.8 and any zoom lens of their choice. thats four lenses, more than enough for a beginner. again a beginner doesnt need 100 lenses. they dont even need to adapt EFS lenses. theres enough RF lens for them.
@@truthseeker6804 I might not have full data but majority of apsc buyers are enthusiasts, casual beginners, family photographers, upcoming influencers and content creators. Sony Zv line and Fuji X v line are pretty famous for content creators. The wildlife setup guys you mention are minorities and as you mentioned they already operate in the ecosystem. The cost argument is fine. I accept that casual apsc buyers don't want too many lenses but still a beginner researching online for a model will always be fascinated by the available lens options. Sony a6000 series and Fuji X line's success is an example of that. Canon launched R100 for less than a thousand dollars but Sony and Fuji already have options which are less than five hundred dollars. That allows for investment in more lenses. Canon is severely late to the game.
In the real world, lens availability rules, given that camera bodies are both more than good enough. But good luck getting a fast wide RF lens from Canon, or anything much else Canon's available RF lens selection is a joke. So next, you look at their "Lens Roadmap" and find it to be really really empty! And given the sad situation with RF lenses, Canon wants to prevent you from using 3rd party lenses on your Canon bodies. I think Canon is suicidal.
1) AS A CROP SENSOR... 1.6 CANON IS BETTER FOR REACH ( this foo is whack) 2) Canon has higher mplxs ...sony color looks like the model has jaundice... Canon has that beautiful chocolate yummy on the sista. otherwise a great video. btw...as of today; Canon is way cheaper
@@TheSlantedLens Brilliant! Don‘t forget to set boost ON, fokuspriority ON for AF-C too, and AF+MF OFF not to fall back in release priority and choose AF Settings 2 if you have a busy backround. Fujis are tricky 🥴.
It is weird that the R7 had problems focusing at minus four stops. I tested it out on my R7, no problem. The EVF was pitch-black, but as soon as I pressed the AF-ON button, the screen lit up for a split second and grabbed focus.
You did not mention one of the most important factors in deciding on a camera, and that is lens choice. The fact that Canon has very few APS-C lenses and no third-party lenses means that people are better off going into the Sony system if they are first-time buyers.
Excellent points. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for this really detailed review on both cameras! I know these videos take time to make and really appreciate your reviews.
My pleasure. Glad it was helpful!
The lack of a proper lens selection in RF mount made me choose the A6700 !
If someone chooses APSC it's not for being carrying RF full frame glass which are heavy, bulky and way too expensive !
You should test the A6700 with some Sigma or Tamron APSC lenses ;-) Even Viltrox has some amazing glass for that camera, the 27mm f/1.2 and the 75mm f/1.2 are brilliant !
I'm actually considering to buy a second A6700 !
This is so helpful! I've been investigating between quality and price and there's no other video which helped me more than this!
Glad it was helpful! Good luck with your purchase!
I shoot Sony but I have used my friends Canon R7 , all these cameras are so good today it's really splitting hairs, use what you like and enjoy
Excellent point. Thanks for sharing!
I prefer the Sony skin tone and color.
Me too . Also, they sale cheaper lenses too
Thanks for sharing your preference and thanks for watching!
Don't forget, the used lens has an impact on colour as well.
First time I’ve ever read that. Went from the green yellow skin tone of Sony to canon and finally everything is perfect.
That's racist
Independently if you like Sony or Canon, I believe the canon looks a lot better due to fact that it has the view finder on the center, which makes the camera more symmetrical, and symmetry at least to me is beauty.
This is a very nice comparison, thank you very much!
I benefited from this r7 vs a6700, because it not only compares the cameras, it also reveals the design decision differences between two companies, which is what I needed more.
Cameras change but design decisions are more likely to stay.
Good points. Glad we could help!
20:26 the comparison is not correct. Why is there no lighting under the cabinet in the Canon shot, but on the Sony there is lighting under the cabinet? Different light setup.
I choose r7. Overheating is a big big big problem for sony a6700
11:45 big reason I sold R7, no shadow detail. Because I shoot in woods and was having problems with shadow recovery.
Thanks for sharing your experience with the R7.
yes..i noticed this happened to the footage from R6 ii too...the blacks were crushed...no details
Great comparison with highly practical real world comparisons. I have the Canon R7, (and a Nikon Z50). For me, the biggest issue potential buyers should consider is what lenses will you want. Both the Canon and Nikon apsc models are hamstrung by a lack of quality apsc lens offerings. So I’m looking at either this Sony or the Fuji X-S20 to be able to build out a with quality lenses to have a system that is versatile for a variety of uses. I’m increasingly suspecting Canon and Nikon just won’t build out their apsc cameras and lenses like what Sony and Fuji users have to choose from.
Very true. The lens selection is a really big issue.
Why do you have to use APS-C lenses ??? I have a couple of really nice EF L-glass lenses that work very well on my R7's.... Although I hardly use them anymore, as I hardly do landscapes anymore. I'm pretty much a hard-core bird guy nowadays, so my RF 800 F11 stays glued to my R7. 1280mm equivalent. For myself, this is the best combo money can buy, from any manufacturer. I know Sony makes some fantastic equipment. Its too bad they don't make an 800mm. If Sony really wants to make me consider jumping ship, they need to make something like Nikon's PF 800 F6.3. Nikon doesn't make a nice, new APS-C to put that lens on. But Sony already does, so...
@@Chris_Wolfgramsince APSC lenses are cheap and small.
@@MARK-wt9cd Okay. I suppose if one didn't already have nice EF glass. But I bought those a long time ago. And as far as weight goes, NONE of these little wide angle zooms are very heavy anyway, when your a birder, and considering, or using lenses that weight anywhere from 3 to 8 lbs.
@@Chris_Wolfgram good point, if you have an old lenses in certain eco system then it does make sense to stay with the brand but for those who'll from scratch and the option are canon r7, sony a6400 and fuji xs20. It's a wise choice to go with either sony or fuji apsc, you can get a quality lens both zoom and prime lenses from 3rd party brands for a reasonable price. example: sigma 18-50 f2.8, tamron 17-70 f2.8, sigma trio prime and the viltrox 75mm 1.2, which is not an option to RF mount camera. RF lenses are really expensive, even EF L line up lenses.
Nice comparison. Canon R7 is a clear winner for wildlife. It’s a pro level camera with two card slots. Autofocus on R7 is phenomenal.
Thanks for sharing your choice. Keep on clickin!
The buffering depends a great deal on the card used. Using a v90 card on my a6700 I can get around 115 compressed RAW frames before it hesitates rather than the 40 you mentioned. I would assume the Canon would would do more with the same card, but just sayin'.....
Depends as well if compressed (lossless) raw is enabled on the Sony or not. I'm not sure what they enabled for the test, however. In any case, I don't know a single reason one would use uncompressed raw with this camera.
The Canon has lossless compressed raw, too, by the way.
Good points. Thanks for sharing!
Great review as always, keep up the good work!!!@@TheSlantedLens
When I first researched into mirrorless cameras, Sony's A6xxx took the cake, Sony had zoom lenses from 10-18, 18-200, 18-135, and 70-350. Canon and Nikon had limited zoom lenses. The zoom lenses are not as sharp as the prime lenses, but the photos are adequate for my purposes, because I shoot stage productions from an audience seat that has limited mobility. ETA since I shoot in low-ligth, the A6700 sometimes hunt for the correct focus point, and it results in about 10% of the photos being out of focus. BTW I turned off the focusing aid light because it was distracting for the performers.
Good to hear about your experience. Thanks for sharing!
Finally I can decide which camera to buy.
Thank you for this detailed review, Jay P.
Glad you found it helpful. Thanks for your comment!
Sony all the way 👌 down side of canon no third party lenses 👎🏻 rf mount so expensive, great review 👍🏻 good luck to ALL
Thanks for sharing your preference!
I have both cameras and I use them mostly for bird photography and there is no winner. They both have pros and cons and it also depends on the lens you use. If I could combine the two cameras into one, I'd use the R7 body and A6700 sensor. R7 has better handling and A6700 has (slightly) better IQ in higher ISO. For travel I'd choose A6700.
Great to hear your experience with these cameras!
I am thinking of purchasing the Sony 6700. Can you recommend a good lens for pictures for birds?
@@trinahuckHi, I use Sigma 100-400 (with E-mount) and I am happy with it, however, if you want to spend more the better option is Sony 100-400 or Sony 200-600. The are native lenses and their auto-focus is faster. I wouldn't recommend any other brand lenses with converter - too slow for bird photography.
Since these cameras are used for birds and wildlife and macro unless the Sony has pre-capture and focus bracketing I think the R7 is ahead. I also like the form factor and the deep grip and the feel of the R7 in my hand compared to a little boxy mini camera. I also like the additional ability to crop with the R7.
The A6700 has focus bracketing. You need to merge the files manually though.
The Sony also has pre capture in the settings.
@@shirakawanaoya Where does it offer that?
Great points. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Sony / Hands Down!
what's up with the flicker/banding in the canon video at 11:11?
Light sources tend to flicker when shooting at high shutter speeds
sony also has bending at iso test
Hey man! I just want to say well done for this video, it was 100% clear and easy to understand, congratulations.
Great video, and good pair of cameras. The Sony has a new sensor were the Canon has the older 90D sensor which has been tweaked. The Sony sensor has a faster read than the R7 and this shows in the comparisons tests. Especially banding and the AF speed which is all done by the sensor on mirrorless cameras.
Photos taken with a6700 are just sharper. There's a video comparing R7 and the R6 (mark I), and every single picture taken with the R7 is slightly more blurry than the one taken with the R6. The same can be observed here. No mater which lens you use with the R7, the images will lack that critical sharpness.
I think this is the reason a6700 performs better with higher ISO. When you compare noise level in the background, both camera seem to perform similar, but when you zoom on the eye, the a6700 looks sharper.
The Canon has a higher resolving sensor. They appear more noisy but tend to offer more to work with in post-processing for AI noise reduction. Would be interesting to see a comparison how the end result of that looks. This banding, however is quite a problem.
By the way, I suspect another reason the Sony is sharper is a weaker aliasing filter. Since it is derived from the Sony A7R line. This can cause more moiré. However, for that, it needs a lens that outperforms the sensor. I haven't seen anybody testing this yet. I would test it, but none of my lenses is sharp enough for that.
Good points. Thanks for sharing!
More megapixel more noise simple in low lighting conditions . 24 and 26 mega pixel camera handle noise better in low light what i have observed.
Great comparison thank you very much. Regarding the dynamic range, pay attention to the shot (comparison of stabilizations) 14:28, the dynamic range of the highlights on the A6700 is much better, the R7 is unusable. Besides, Canon is very competitive and has a lot of advantages (dual card slot, does not overheat easily like Sony, which allows for longer recording time, etc.), and in my country it is $300 cheaper than Sony, but Sony has a slightly better image quality. A very tough choice.
So nice sir, so very informetive test... ❤❤❤❤
What a perfect review and comparasion! Well done! Love the portrait examples!
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for your comment!
I like the form factor (smaller and lighter) of the Sony; often preferred the look of the Canon shots, but that is subjective; no question IBIS on the Canon better, but Sony OK on maximum EIS is appears (and of course, if you want to do the extra work it has the option of catalyst browse I think if that can work for you). Both would be a great choice, but I’m so tempted by the Sony. Would love a similar comparison between the Sony and Fuji XS20. Enjoyed the video..
Nicely done!
Appreciate you comment. Thanks for watching!
@@TheSlantedLensexcelente Review, felicitaciones.
Yo tengo la fx30, alguna opinión??
I wonder when actually Cannon was excelling Sony with AF? ;-) In mirrorless world, Sony is a Golden Standard for AF ...
Sony really does have great autofocus!
To quote another RUclipsr “glass, glass, glass!” The availability of both Sony and third party lenses for the Sony is a big plus.
So true! Thanks for your comment!
Soon my friend...soon plenty will come.
When comparing dynamic range, the only way to really do it is to compare log curves together. A "graded" Rec709 image has dynamic range "thrown away" in order to bring proper contrast for viewing. Rec709 can only hold 6-8 stops of dynamic range, depending on how "flat" you want the image to look. The more the contrast, the more dynamic range was discarded in order to display a pleasing contrast. These cameras will capture about 12-13 total stops on each photo and you are only comparing the 6-8 "graded out" stops of dynamic range. Comparing a flat log image is the only way to see what these sensors are "really" capturing.
Thanks for sharing you knowledge!
Fun fact: R7 has ‘in camera’ focus stacking! You don’t need Helicon focus to make image stacking. Works excellent. Enjoy your a6700.
dont mind, this old guy just want sony to win hahaha
Is canon really better at wildlife photography, I can’t imagine there’ll be a big difference but I don’t know exactly for sure.
I like canon colours, but really into Sony in terms of low light and dynamic range; but for fast moving objects they say canon is better.
Really torn between these beautiful cameras.
It is a hard decision. Perhaps rent them to see which you like working with.
Two concerns here. First is the fact that the R7 has so many focus adjustments and modes. Out of the box the R7 focus is good, but not great. In my opinion. I've helped a lot of people in the different R7 groups set up their focus correctly. You have the selection of one shot or servo, focus points, "cases" that determine the sensitivity to which it releases or locks focus continuously. subject and eye focus, as well as tracking in servo mode. All of these make a huge difference in the success in the focusing of the camera. Next was the noise test I felt that both cameras were a little underexposed. An under exposed image will always produce more noise. And the best way to get the least amount of noise in a high ISO situation is proper exposure as that reduces the noise.
The A6700 AF is really sticky and quick, and even in complex scenarios, it tends to make informed choices on what to focus on. Where it struggles, though, are animals that are small in the image. It can take a bit until it grabs onto them, so there is certainly room for improvement.
And I can confirm, since I recently tested it myself, as long as it finds something with contrast to snap onto, it can focus at f11 indoors at 1/30 ISO 6400 (correct exposure) at 300mm without opening the aperture on a non Sony lens (Tamron 18-300).
@@maggnet4829 this is why I have a concern about this review. If you go onto the AF menu and cases in the servo AF sub menu you'll find multiple cases. Each case has different tracking and response / acceleration settings. If you were to select case one and adjust the tracking to say -1 which is more locked on, the auto focus becomes more sticky. At the same time you can adjust how quickly the subject is moving to allow it to stay locked on or release. Most modern cameras have all of these options, and features, and the default settings for one may be good, but not acceptable for another. This can be said, for reviewing or comparing as well. If you say one camera locks on better, do you need to make sure that the other cameras adjustments would not make it better or equal to the other camera?
Good things to consider and test. Thanks for sharing your experience!
@jimaudette445 I somewhat agree that it does have an impact, e.g. the Sony A6700 AF is recommended to be set to 4, while the default is 3. The AF becomes a good bit snappier.
However, with sticky I mean that you realize that the AF really stays with the subject, even if it rotates and then chooses the best option to focus on. Lets say you have a model looking at you, it right away grabs the eye. Then the model rotates and the eye becomes invisible, the camera instantly switches to focus on the side of the face, the model rotates further and it switches to the back of the head, the model walks away and it stick without letting go even if there is another person in the image. The model crouches down and you don't see the face or head and the focus still sticks to that person.
Plz make comparison videos between panasonic g9 mark 2 and sony a6700
We will see what we can do. Thanks for the suggestion!
This is such outstanding video information.
Deserves 1M views.
Thank you. I appreciate that!
Where is the over heating test. What’s a point having great auto focus and so many video codecs when Sony overheats faster than canon?
These will most likely both overheat. If you are doing a lot of long filming clips you would want to select a different camera.
@@TheSlantedLens I have experience with R7 and it has never overheated on me but my friends who has Sony A6700 are always complaining about it so that’s a big difference between these two cameras that you have missed.
Everyone know canon has better ergonomic (better handling) than sony, no need to defend this sony 😏
@@EhtashamAnwar i live in 100+f weather and my 67 has never overheated in 5+ shootings i had till now. Tell your friends to use it properly.
@@madmancasacreativa3 your one is a especial one then mate, I live in UK and I have seen that camera overheating within 20-25 mins in 4k 60p mode.
I just got a Sony A6700 last week and I'm really enjoying taking pictures with it. It's such a fun little camera with a very big set of features. Thank you for the excellent videos! Your review of the A6700 made me decide on that particular model! I already had Sony glass so it was the obvious choise for me❤
congrats I really love it as well, it's a nice companion to my A7IV
Great to hear. Glad you are enjoying your purchase!
What about overheating?
Is there any overheating while doing photography directly under the sun!?
Which Camera one is best for travel vlogs canon r7 or sony a6700
Thanks for this great practical comparison 🙏👌, which convinced me towards the a6700 for photography needs (Smaller and more compact for Travels) 👍🏼
Did you mention that only Canon R7 is weather sealed and you can literally rinse the sand off, also stills focus hit rate may have been 100% if you slowed canons frames per seconds down to match Sony as the processor has to communicate to sensor and to lens motor between each shutter actuation which the slower Sony had more time to keep focus so not equal grounds in the test.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
the Sony is weather sealed as well
There are 4 differences in these 2 cameras. The 6700 has better video codecs. Does 4k 120. The R7 will last much longer when used in hotter climates. The R7 is a better action/wildlife camera. Other than that. Anyone who has a clue how to do their job would get the same results with either. But You did need to make a video.
A better action camera because of the frames per second. But when you're shooting football are professional boxing and have to push your ISO to 2600 and your shutter speed to 1250 the Canon doesn't handle that high noise very well
Where the Sony dose way better in low light and high iso. So unless your shooting on a bright day shooting fast action sports my be hard on the R7 seeing how it struggles to focus in low light
6700 or xs20????
Please compare the x-s20 with the Canon R7
We will see what we can do. Thanks for the suggestion.
When you did the focus test with the model walking towards you did you do it just one time for each camera or three times to get an average between the two?
We did multiple times and chose the best for each.
Nice, thank you.
a6700 is not a video camera it is a hybrid.
I love the Sony a series, but the overheating is a death trap.
That overheating is a problem with other cameras as well. Someday hopefully a better solution.
Other test videos confirmed the 6700 had no heating problems
Unless you are shooting continuously like 30-45 minutes, overheating should not an issue. If it is, smallrig came out with a tiny fan can be attached to the back.
@@ESMPRCT and if you are shooting sports it is always over 30 minutes and that actually overheats. in 90F sun, you can get 15 max at 4k without overheating.
Always the best and fun to watch reviews, thanks JP!
Glad you like them! Thanks for the compliment!
Great comparison between the two cameras, I do like the form factor and and look of the Canon, but now the lens options for Canon APS-C line is so underwhelming, in the mean time, Sony with some 3rd party lens companies and rocking this world, in resume Canon has a great camera, but not many lens options for it
True, the lack of lens options is unfortunate.
Why didn't you talk about sony overheating problem? Inside at 80-85 F 4k 24fps, overheats after 20-30 mins. I mean in most tests, the image quality is a little better on sony, but in real world, in video work, that overheating problem is a big deal breaker for most of people.
That is an important thing to keep in mind if you shoot long video clips.
Fantastic review. I have the Canon R8. I’d love to see you do this test with the R8 vs the Sony Zv-e1
Good suggestion. We will see what we can do.
Canon has confirmed an autofocus limitation when shooting at 15 frames per second. It’s a limitation of the read speed on the processor. I think that may be why Sony caps the FPS to 11 even in electronic shutter.
Thanks for sharing that info!
Actually, that is not the case. Canon has confirmed that when set to H+ 30 fps in low light, low contrast situation's the auto focus can have difficulties. It still works but you'll have some out of focus frames. Switching to H 20 fps or mechanical shutter 15 fps, and or providing good light and contrast, there is no problem.
But in real world shooting, this is variable. I sometimes take bursts (@ 15 fps) which are nearly all sharp. Other times, in low light / contrast, several will miss, although I still usually end up with a good, sharp, useable one.
Sorry for looking this video. But RUclips suggested it and I couldn´t stop ist, it was too good. But I´m in future to replace my A6400 with the A6700, nice to see that is a good decison.
It seems like you used different apertures at the autofocus test since canon images have more bokeh, therefore it was easier for sony to maintain focus. You also have not clarified which mode you used for autofocus on canon, since it has subject detection and eye af, as well as servo ofc...so i think the autofocus test was badly done.
Your assumptions are without any information. We shot them all on the same aperture, f/2.8.
We did use servo on the Canon and eye detect. They were very close to each other. Try watching the whole video to get the whole picture.
Video - slog3 is way better in terms of color and DR than clog2 and being able to bake in LUTS is huge time saver
Great points. Thanks for your comment.
I am not sure but I think C Log 2 is not available on R7. I think that is the best log in Canon reserved only for higher end cameras.
Nice job here. Sony's AI is really next level. What's clear, both Canon and Sony are the only choices if you want the best and latest tech in entry-mid level cameras. Where is Nikon? They are increasingly a 2 camera company. Z8 and Z9. Really no contest.
Nikon is making some good strides as well. And some people would never switch.
Come on show some love to Fuji.
Why is canon edit darker?
We process the images the same so what you see is what you get without making color or exposure differences.
What is the lens attached to Canon?
Canon RF 50mm f/1.2 L USM Lens: bhpho.to/40taZ8L
R7... ❤
Thanks for sharing your preference!
What about overheating in video 4k?
We did not deal with overheating but we did not do a long video recording to test the overheating.
I’ll definitely go with the Sony
Thanks for sharing which one you prefer!
@TheSlantedLens Thanks for taking the time make an awesome video!
Did Sony fly you out for their Sony event so they could give you the new a7C II?
We didn't go to the Sony event.
For portrait the sony A6700 is better, for sports the canon will be better.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
In video autofocus test there was no details in shadows with Canon. 😮
Yeah, the darks were pretty heavy.
You have profiles to choose from and c log so...
@@sicr626 Clog 3 is bad in shadows
@@henakos on R6 its pretty good
Sony all the way… customization, AF, color, and the most important the choice of way more excellent lenses (in the small formfactor)
I like canon r7 better sony a6700
I trow all my sony a6000-6600 trash
Thanks for sharing your opinion.
It´s a shame for Sony that a 3 years old difference Canon camera is almost tied in almost all specs even there some specs that Canon R7 goes better, the logic thing takes me to guess next R7 will beat Sony on time for far
People who say canon colors are better and somy are trash are living under rock. Sony color used to be bad, but that was decade ago. And notjing beats sony in video. Buying camera means buying ecosystem . Canon is worst in that. Sony apsc lens are cheap af and there are ton to choose from. Canon is like potato compared to sony.
Thanks for sharing you preference!
in the Sony we can use the screen as a joystick so it doesn't really need that joystick
Good point. Thanks for sharing that tip!
I shoot lots of wildlife and the r7 blows the 6700 away in that realm..
Good to know. Thanks for sharing your experience!
@@birdiec2769 if youre buying for action photography go canon r7, if youre buying for action videography go sony.
On tony northrup’s review canon wins big on autofocus for sports
Thank for another informative video. But…. OMG! The dreaded, annoying bell is back!
We changed the bell and made it much softer.
26 mp vs 32.5mp canon ‘slightly’ ahead… that extra 6,5 megapixels is called slightly let see where this video is heading 😏
Mind you, 2x resolution of 26 mp means 104 mp (2x each direction). So 6.5 more mp is almost nothing.
@@withoutpassid u know u can print big with 8 megapixels right so yeah 6 megapixels is something!
@@mbismbismb That’s irrelevant 😏
Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
@@withoutpassid u are irrelevant 😏
Just want to let u know, u can slow down the high speed burst on the canon for higher hit rate .. i’m sure it kills sony af easily 🤓
Good point. Thanks for sharing.
Video the Sony also was better than Canon so it’s a Sony win
@@tomdemeo2708 i dont know what were u typing.... sorry
@@mbismbismb
The video shows that the Sony had a better auto focus in video mode. Better than the Canon
@@tomdemeo2708u do know that in canon u can tweak the af stickiness and responsiveness ... i guess u dont own a canon, that explains your ignorance
Can i bought sony 6700?
21:06 is best color in sony 6700
but in both there is poor quality in sharpness
My iPhone 11 takes better photos than these honestly
what lens uses?
Sony FE 50mm f/1.2 GM Lens - bhpho.to/3CxkFo6 and Canon RF 50mm f/1.2 L USM Lens - bhpho.to/40taZ8L
Love you from India
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed the video!
Sony should vs FujiXs20
That review is comoong. Thanks for watching!
I think Sony apsc G lenses, other Sony lenses, Sigma, Tamron, so many other third parties and even Zeiss Touit lenses gives Song a6700 a massive edge over R7. The gap is so wide that unless you already are in the Canon R eco-system, it is foolish to buy R7 as a first time buyer.
Yes, those lens choices really do make the Sony an easier decision.
first time buyer doesnt need hundred lenses. most people only need 2-3 lenses and you would find them in the canon.
@@truthseeker6804 No one would buy an apsc for totally casual use. You at least require f2.8 lenses if not f1.4 and f1.8 for that shallow depth of fields and bokeh. the current offerings of Canon apsc lenses would give you only slightly better look than mobile phones. Canon had many ef offerings for apsc line up but right now there apsc lenses are like camcorder lenses.
@@kapilesh14 youre wrong!. Theres two main groups of apsc buyers, first group, people who want compact reach, that is wildlife and sports photographers, this is for their casual use as they have full frame setup for their professional use. for them the r7 and the compact 100-500 is the best compact setup. you can see alot of wildlife photographers all over just type in canon r7. the second group, buys apsc because of prices. that is mostly the beginners. a beginner doesnt need 100 lenses. they can get the canon 50mm1.8, 35mm1.8, 16mm f2.8 and any zoom lens of their choice. thats four lenses, more than enough for a beginner. again a beginner doesnt need 100 lenses. they dont even need to adapt EFS lenses. theres enough RF lens for them.
@@truthseeker6804 I might not have full data but majority of apsc buyers are enthusiasts, casual beginners, family photographers, upcoming influencers and content creators. Sony Zv line and Fuji X v line are pretty famous for content creators. The wildlife setup guys you mention are minorities and as you mentioned they already operate in the ecosystem. The cost argument is fine. I accept that casual apsc buyers don't want too many lenses but still a beginner researching online for a model will always be fascinated by the available lens options.
Sony a6000 series and Fuji X line's success is an example of that. Canon launched R100 for less than a thousand dollars but Sony and Fuji already have options which are less than five hundred dollars. That allows for investment in more lenses. Canon is severely late to the game.
I prefer sony
Thanks for sharing your preference!
i’ve been watching videos and reviews about the sony and now i’m comparing it to the canon.. as if i had money to buy 😅smh
You can dream! Good luck saving up!
@@TheSlantedLens buy it for me 🙏
Sony wins! (Watched 2 seconds of video)
I prefer Zenit with Helios😂
Thanks for sharing your preference.
In the real world, lens availability rules, given that camera bodies are both more than good enough.
But good luck getting a fast wide RF lens from Canon, or anything much else
Canon's available RF lens selection is a joke. So next, you look at their "Lens Roadmap" and find it to be really really empty! And given the sad situation with RF lenses, Canon wants to prevent you from using 3rd party lenses on your Canon bodies. I think Canon is suicidal.
That is the huge drawback with Canon.
Nice
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching!
1) AS A CROP SENSOR... 1.6 CANON IS BETTER FOR REACH ( this foo is whack) 2) Canon has higher mplxs ...sony color looks like the model has jaundice... Canon has that beautiful chocolate yummy on the sista. otherwise a great video. btw...as of today; Canon is way cheaper
Thanks for sharing your opinion.
Way? US model is hundreds more on Amazon
I agree with his color test , Canon was over blown
Canon RF lens price science is just awful
Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
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How much did Sony pay you for this bias review?
We were not sponsored by either camera company.
Not good video. The most point is missing: 4k overheating, especially outdoor situation. And of course Canon is the only choice for video makers.😅
The best of these two is the cheaper Fujifilm X-S20 😂
We have that comparison coming!
@@TheSlantedLens Brilliant! Don‘t forget to set boost ON, fokuspriority ON for AF-C too, and AF+MF OFF not to fall back in release priority and choose AF Settings 2 if you have a busy backround. Fujis are tricky 🥴.
Canon 👌🏻🔥❤️