High Intensity Techniques | Should You Do "Drop Sets"

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  • @mountaindog1
    @mountaindog1  4 года назад +23

    must see videos: ruclips.net/p/PLNAUreWTt_ShOUuyRgc3FEPf5LEmlyZmY

  • @ameliab9391
    @ameliab9391 3 года назад +12

    This guy helped me quite a lot to train by myself, his teachings will go on. RIP.

    • @mikakoivisto6504
      @mikakoivisto6504 2 года назад

      Yeah I never progressive overloaded before this guy told me.

  • @craigm8983
    @craigm8983 4 года назад +97

    I wish my significant other talked about me like John Meadows talks about drop sets

    • @issakass-lc2wx
      @issakass-lc2wx 8 месяцев назад

      Dump him,he doesn’t deserve you girl

  • @correctpolitically4784
    @correctpolitically4784 2 года назад +1

    He will give out great advice for the next 100 years.

  • @NaturalHypertrophy
    @NaturalHypertrophy 4 года назад +87

    I love drop sets but when you train by yourself in a garage without a cable station having to deload the bar yourself gets old fast...

    • @satinderjit4
      @satinderjit4 4 года назад +9

      Not to mention you get tired from just loading the bar fast

    • @jakesokolofsky8835
      @jakesokolofsky8835 4 года назад +32

      satinderjit4 bro how bad is your endurance 😂 you literally just have to get up, take weight off, and then go back. not that hard 😂

    • @satinderjit4
      @satinderjit4 4 года назад +3

      @@jakesokolofsky8835 lol

    • @chronometa
      @chronometa 4 года назад +4

      Try mechanical drop sets with reverse bands of the same weight.

    • @jonwill
      @jonwill 4 года назад +2

      You might try an appropriate weight in dumbbells for your drops. I train alone so I know what you mean.

  • @OhhBallistic
    @OhhBallistic 4 года назад +40

    I mostly just love the feeling of a drop set as i love the burn it gives my muscles.

    • @dustin6528
      @dustin6528 4 года назад +5

      Agreed. I did a drop set on the hack squat days ago and I’m still feeling it big time. It’s another level of training

    • @treyhedgepeth9598
      @treyhedgepeth9598 3 года назад +3

      Whoever says drop sets do not work, come see me I’ll change your mind. We use to do these until we hit total failure. Not only did I get stronger I also grew like a weed. Drop sets are where it’s at.

  • @250garbear
    @250garbear 4 года назад +26

    I love drops especially with chest exercises as you get an incredible pump. Ive found training each body part twice a week,once with the standard heavy weight pushing to 8-10 reps per working set then for the second workout using a lighter weight incorporating things like iso holds,drops and partials. I don't work this way every week but when I do I find my muscles grow big time and stay hard long after the workout is over.

    • @rhakeshg9406
      @rhakeshg9406 4 года назад +3

      Yea i do the same as you, 1 day heavy weights plus low reps and the other day is focusing on that metabolic burn and feeling the muscles contract properly. Light weights got me much better results for sure.

    • @colin7360
      @colin7360 4 года назад

      I’ve been doing the same the past month. Push, pull, legs. I do the drop sets on the first/heavy day. Luv it!!

  • @Psychonaut165
    @Psychonaut165 3 года назад +1

    Hi John meadows, everybody here. 👋
    Absolute legend. Miss you 🥺

  • @nealsterling8151
    @nealsterling8151 4 года назад +1

    Great Video!
    I wish i had someone explaining me these things 25 years ago, instead i had to collect and learn some of these infos from various (sometimes contradicting) sources for myself.

  • @meharpreetkaur3794
    @meharpreetkaur3794 4 года назад +2

    You have the best shoulder workout video on RUclips. That 6point excercise and many other raises variations, they really blasted my shoulders.

  • @rhakeshg9406
    @rhakeshg9406 4 года назад +44

    8:07 is my favourite part of the video 😂

  • @Zilch129
    @Zilch129 4 года назад +42

    I cannot wait for the Partial Series. My side delts have been getting smoked by doing side lateral raises with heavy weight, high reps, and partial movements. You have a couple videos mentioning this and it is absolutely the best thing! Will you be going over this technique with other body parts?

  • @don8244
    @don8244 3 года назад +2

    I find drop sets tend to benefit me best when doing isolation work with machines, cables and pins. Tricep, bicep and quad work (leg extension) immediately gets the best pumps. Has helped to beat my plateau of results over the last few months.

  • @julianskns
    @julianskns 4 года назад

    They way you explain convinces even the purebred believers that only heavy weight makes you bigger, love your channel brother! I enjoy the pump I get from drop sets.

  • @Seb4asti4n
    @Seb4asti4n 4 года назад +3

    11:30 from my perceptive, the Jedi are evil!
    Great video Mr. Meadows :) I always learn a ton from you, thank you!

  • @abbasforamerica7508
    @abbasforamerica7508 3 года назад +1

    whata an informative video! RIP JOHN M!

  • @chutihudelle184
    @chutihudelle184 4 года назад

    This really helps. I have done drop sets when I was doing the entire workout and I felt like I fuc*ed the quality up , thanks for pointing out that smartly using drop sets !

  • @morgo6301
    @morgo6301 Год назад

    Very underrated you’re very articulate, no bullshit and break down the science behind it.

  • @ClarksonClips
    @ClarksonClips 4 года назад +98

    8:07 if you're interested in fatiguing your eardrum fibres

    • @mountaindog1
      @mountaindog1  4 года назад +26

      hahah

    • @shinbukan
      @shinbukan 4 года назад +3

      😂😂😂😂

    • @alvincalvin7467
      @alvincalvin7467 4 года назад +8

      I thought satan was talking to me.

    • @Keranu
      @Keranu 4 года назад +5

      lmao I wanted to see if anyone pointed this out

    • @godsbeast.69
      @godsbeast.69 4 года назад +1

      mountaindog1 🤣

  • @crazykorean2268
    @crazykorean2268 4 года назад +1

    John always shares his knowledge in a way that everyday people can understand. Thanks John

  • @JoshuaWilliamsMA83
    @JoshuaWilliamsMA83 4 года назад +3

    I also think that there's something to be said for efficiency during your training as well. Dropsets allow you to increase your total volume as well as your overload in a short period of time relative to straight sets.

  • @penitentman4862
    @penitentman4862 4 года назад +3

    John, you’re the man! Thanks for all the help. I’m 215 and shredded!!

  • @wilsonvega8331
    @wilsonvega8331 4 года назад +1

    Love dropsets on all excerises they do wonders for the pump and next day im tight as heck thanks john for the explation on dropsets u rock

  • @andythousand345
    @andythousand345 4 года назад +1

    Excellent video as always, John. You have the best channel I’ve seen on RUclips so far.

  • @punkandlifting
    @punkandlifting 4 года назад +1

    I love myself some drop sets. Usually do them on last sets of maximum two exercises for both muscle groups I’m working that day (chest/bis) (shoulders/tris) etc. The intense burn and fatigue is just awesome.

  • @ryantryt2468
    @ryantryt2468 4 года назад +1

    Class is in session! Thank you Master Meadows!!! You have so much knowledge and passion!

  • @CesarDominguez_
    @CesarDominguez_ 4 года назад +2

    Love this video. Thank you John. I'm actually doing dropsets in every set of my workout. (14 sets per muscle group, 2 groups per day). I'm just trying in myseft and see how it goes... 3 weeks in and feel great, i'm 12 pounds heavier and hungry all the time thanks to this training. Also i'm able to put more weight every workout.

  • @rhakeshg9406
    @rhakeshg9406 4 года назад +3

    I usually do a drop set for my final set of my last two exercises. Just wanna get that extreme burn and soreness especially for muscle groups that are not the best responders.

  • @chrisa9035
    @chrisa9035 4 года назад +3

    Dropsets really helped my incline and flat bench tremendously, didn't work for my squat. I feel that they really work for certain body parts/exercises. Also developed my back on cable pull downs

  • @nuavecmoi
    @nuavecmoi 4 года назад +1

    Nice! I found an article you wrote for T-Nation which was helpful when considering high intensity techniques.

  • @124madcow
    @124madcow 4 года назад

    Guy at my gym used to do two warm up sets one working set and two drop sets. It worked pretty well. He did one drop set on an exercise per session.

  • @siliconnubian3622
    @siliconnubian3622 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for another excellent and well explained video.
    Personally I use Drop Sets on my last set of stubborn muscle groups. Drop Sets are great for arms, chest and upper back, even legs on say a leg press machine. I also consider drop sets a more advanced tool for those who have been training for a while and have hit gain walls.

  • @aniruddhsakpal6931
    @aniruddhsakpal6931 3 года назад +2

    You are the best 100%

  • @AndreInvests
    @AndreInvests 4 года назад +1

    Thank you for sharing this John! I'm definitely not a huge fan of dropsets but they do have there place. Offers variety for some but if it helps with adherence it's certainly effective.

  • @rawtooth4704
    @rawtooth4704 4 года назад +1

    Smart and saves injuries in the long run.

  • @paulblake1164
    @paulblake1164 4 года назад +1

    Drop sets for me combined with mind muscle connection is fundamentally one of the best training techniques that I use, not only do I receive an Almighty pump from the drop sets I also so feel absolutely fantastic for doing so! Because the combination of the Mind Weight & Drop no rest between each Increment of weight.
    Decline dumbbell bench press is my particular favourite

  • @MatiDota
    @MatiDota 4 года назад +1

    Of course. But not everyday and every exercise. I do most of the times one drop set on last Rep for one body part at a day. For example with lateral raises, cable curls for bicep, etc. Excercises that are easy to Overload until failure

  • @SandoCSGO
    @SandoCSGO 4 года назад

    Nothing but great information, video after video. One of the best training related channels on yt, by far.

  •  4 года назад +1

    Always good Info!! I love drop set, when I was a competitor and I was a caloric deficit phase, I didnt have so much energy for lifting so much weight or workout 2 hours so I used so much drop set for fatigue my self in 2 or 3 set. I like Super or Giant set too, but you need so much energy and drop set is always a good way for fatigue muscle when you are a little sore and want To keep the volume in the workout. Now İ do some excercices always in drop set like a hip abduction because glute medius / minimus respond more a high reps or something like cable squat, I drop and hold and more reps and hold and drop again, so I do this in the end of my workout for exhausting muscle. İ tried drop set for walking lunge and its very usefull too, but İ prefere this in bodyweight. Some hard weight To failure and Bodyweight To failure for ending workout its prefect and OMG. Love your video, and watch all . Thank you again 🙂

  • @Chasetaylorlifts
    @Chasetaylorlifts 4 года назад +4

    I love drop sets. Science study said that doing 5 straight sets or 1 drop set with 5 working drop sets will give you the same or even more gains because you destroy the muscle fibers more.

    • @Chasetaylorlifts
      @Chasetaylorlifts 4 года назад

      @Donald Lewis feels good i never get a greater pump burn and fatigue without drop sets

  • @wilber4rce
    @wilber4rce 4 года назад

    Your handwriting is improving with every one of these technical videos! JK I like the way you add some of the more scientific details but don't go overboard, thank you sir!

  • @iasonastheodoropoulos8857
    @iasonastheodoropoulos8857 4 года назад +1

    8:06 scared the shit out of me lmao Great video as always

  • @77confusedzombie77
    @77confusedzombie77 4 года назад +4

    I've worked construction my whole life. Never max out at the gym. did that day in and day out on the job site for years. Just looking to improve my physique

    • @lelandgaunt9985
      @lelandgaunt9985 4 года назад +1

      Funny Constrution story, (well to me) a female I work with asked why all of the construction guys had big bellies, even with walking up and down the project all day. I’m diabetic and lack the belly. I told her “ perhaps they’re type 2 diabetic.”

  • @jhall1980
    @jhall1980 4 года назад +1

    Could you do a video on range of motion & how shorter r.o.m. creates thickness like you briefly mentioned. Love the channel!

  • @johanstrm840
    @johanstrm840 4 года назад +1

    My favorite Channel! learned a lot from you John🙏 Thank you so much👊

  • @gaurd3
    @gaurd3 4 года назад +2

    It’s always good to get back to the basics.

  • @bigry959
    @bigry959 4 года назад

    On a side note: for the people concerned about weight and overload on the secondary sets, maybe try mechanical drop sets and just switch your grip or stance and bang out the same weight for a few extra reps

  • @dradeel
    @dradeel 4 года назад +1

    Dropsets are also a time saver. If it's the same outcome if volume is equated, that must mean a dropset lets you get there faster. Efficiency and learning to handle pain have value.

  • @gallopingtortoise8598
    @gallopingtortoise8598 4 года назад

    Did some of these today on my last set after 3x8s , set the pins and did over head barbell press. An like you said , no resting or standing around,,,, Drop Sets mean , work til fail , drop a plate , and get right back on the horse I dont murder myself with them but Ill try to run 20 in a row with like 60 or 70 percent of one rep max , drop weight , next set try n fight to get 15 an repeat like 4 sets ,, when your done it feels like youve been wrestling the Devil by his horns.

  • @mikemunoziii.5816
    @mikemunoziii.5816 4 года назад +1

    Awesome video Mountain dog, now we need to know which exercise to use drop sets in , and which body parts are the best drop sets, what are the basic.

    • @mountaindog1
      @mountaindog1  4 года назад

      leg press, leg extension, leg curl, chest machine press, shoulder dumbell laterals, seated cable row, some of my favorite...

  • @larsino1988
    @larsino1988 4 года назад +1

    In germany you pay a lot of Money To get informations like that. Thank you John!

  • @guambianthunderbolts905
    @guambianthunderbolts905 4 года назад +5

    Body building is the best life style. Look amazing and youre a beast. Salute too all my iron brothers no matter where you are in the journey!

  • @robertdemarais3327
    @robertdemarais3327 4 года назад

    I usually do them on my last set of dumbbell/barbell curls and dumbbell press. If I rep out 6-8 reps I just feel like I'm getting started to push out more reps so I do a drop set. Plus doing it gives you an awesome pump too.

  • @RedfishCarolina
    @RedfishCarolina 3 года назад

    The way I've been doing them on nearly every exercise has been working well. I start out heavy weight (after a warmup set) and go to failure, then 30 seconds rest and drop the weight and rep to fail, repeat 3-6 sets.
    If I can hit more than 15 reps on the first heavy set then next time I start even heavier.

  • @edwardfortae2350
    @edwardfortae2350 4 года назад +2

    I do drop sets mixed with rest pause it's even harder and 1 set is all I need. I can move onto the next exercise but I found one exercise is about all my body can handle at that intensity.

  • @85superchris
    @85superchris 4 года назад

    Drop sets give me a good pump. I prefer to do them towards the end of the work out. Like after heavy sets 3 or 4 exercises in when I can't lift as heavy. Its a great intensity technique.

  • @home-grownphysiquesbylesowen64
    @home-grownphysiquesbylesowen64 4 года назад

    Hi John in total agreement with you I'll describe the way that I do them I actually call them descending sets they can be used at the end of straight sets taken to positive failure and after hitting failure you would remove 10 or 15% of the weight and then perform more reps to failure you would then remove another 10 to 15% of the weight and perform more reps to failure one of the best high intensity technique the reason why I started to use them is because I witnessed bertil Fox doing descending sets in a training session you just have to look at bertil and the results he got from the descending sets to actually realise the potential of the technique three words for any good technique is efficiency of effort

  • @ASMRBass
    @ASMRBass 4 года назад +1

    Great topic. I've never seen a difference with drop sets.

  • @RubenTeves
    @RubenTeves 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for all the vids.. use your tips all the time..

  • @vladtepes6690
    @vladtepes6690 4 года назад

    I also use dropsets on 1 to 2 exercises per bodypart, given i train at home with limited equipment it helps me reduce the training time, definitely working in strength and size gains though most bodyparts only get hit once a week or they can't recover. I particularly like drop sets on lateral raises where i do 4 drops and then partials in contracted position with no weight till failure, really crazy shoulder pump and have to ask help to eat after

  • @nhatnguyen.l4203
    @nhatnguyen.l4203 4 года назад +1

    Noice i noticed that a huge different when i do drop set , i feel more blood more pump maybe a lil bit more muscle growth and... As always thankyou for sharing this free man
    R E S P E C T

  • @andyleibrook6012
    @andyleibrook6012 4 года назад +1

    I'm 54 and incorporated drop sets into my program a little over a year ago to avoid injury. I know I'm not a spring chicken any more. I'm really not interested in big now as I am on just keeping tight and fit.

  • @razhua
    @razhua 4 года назад +2

    its great for variety and you better bring your mental and emotional game, if you are working to failure that is some serious burn and mental drain! I love them when im up to it

  • @123ChrisG
    @123ChrisG 4 года назад

    I learned a good few things from this video. Nice one John thanks again love the channel

  • @juliocesaralmeida8738
    @juliocesaralmeida8738 4 года назад

    Great infos. I always thought its a good metod but came from an expert its much better to workout safetly. Over 40s needs to do it smart. Thks alot...

  • @zaviercadorin6244
    @zaviercadorin6244 4 года назад +2

    My PUSH workout: 4x sets of decline DB bench press, 3x sets of seated DB delt raises- (each with a drop set of 1/2 the weight to failure), 3x sets of Incline DB bench press superset into decline pushups, 3x sets of standing DB shoulder press. Finish with 3x sets of flys. Workout goes for roughly an hour. Should I rearrange anything?

  • @jameswood6121
    @jameswood6121 4 года назад +1

    I like drop sets on smaller muscles and isolation movements such as delts and arms. Training to failure on bigger muscles such as chest and back you shouldn’t physically have enough in the tank to do a drop set.

  • @Scottishguyreacts
    @Scottishguyreacts 4 года назад

    Fantastic informative video. Can't wait for the next one. Keep em coming!

  • @dkizzle1290
    @dkizzle1290 4 года назад +1

    Very good explanation, love your channel.

  • @studentsize6611
    @studentsize6611 4 года назад +1

    Honestly, I think that the greatest benefit to drop sets is the idea that it almost forces whoever performs them to really put their everything into every rep. They can't just excuse low intensity as easily and as such, the higher intensity causes the gains that they're looking for.

  • @UncommonSense
    @UncommonSense 4 года назад

    Dropsets are KING, not only for building muscle but for building discipline and mental strength as well.

  • @eon57
    @eon57 4 года назад

    Love this John, thanks. Looking forward to the vids on other high intensity techniques. Been incorporating cluster sets lately, based on your recent FB post about them, and really enjoying them.

  • @timpan0
    @timpan0 4 года назад +3

    I started doing drop sets after a leg video you made months ago. Tried it out and they make the burn even more intense than a normal set if you ask me! Especially lying leg curls!!
    And 08:06 "Darth Vader voice activated"

  • @QuigzDrifts
    @QuigzDrifts 4 года назад

    Thanks for sharing your knowledge and insight, I always learn a lot from you

  • @mangosnappl
    @mangosnappl 4 года назад +1

    Incredibly informative, thank you 🙏

  • @shaunyboynz3870
    @shaunyboynz3870 4 года назад

    Another awesome video John. Time to add drop sets.👍👍👍

  • @dkvikingkd233
    @dkvikingkd233 4 года назад +48

    okay, so drop sets potentially fatigue a higher percentage of fibers in the muscle, got it - seems reasonable:)

  • @MDCigan
    @MDCigan 4 года назад +1

    Very educational video!

  • @svetoslavbaldjiev5805
    @svetoslavbaldjiev5805 4 года назад

    Really good and informative video as always . Would you consider doing videos like that with other intensity techniques, such as cluster sets , eccentric , rack sets and ect . Keep up the great work !

  • @zubairdotnet
    @zubairdotnet 4 года назад

    Loved it John, please do a video in Supersets too

  • @tubo777
    @tubo777 4 года назад

    Great video! I´d love to see you explain iso-hold techniques as you did with Tom Platz training legs. Thanks for all valuable content!!

  • @jan490
    @jan490 4 года назад

    Excellent video!!
    Really well thought-out and explained! Thank you!

  • @yolandagofigure
    @yolandagofigure 4 года назад +2

    My favorite..DROP SETS!! 😉🔥

  • @dakotasonney2142
    @dakotasonney2142 4 года назад

    Thanks for another great video John! Just ordered that shirt, hoping I'll fill it out like you do!

  • @LuciolaSama
    @LuciolaSama 4 года назад

    Another awesome video! Keep it up. :)
    Had one point though. I love your explanation and theory, and makes intuitive sense, but it does rely on the extent muscle fiber fatigue contributes to gains. As said it makes intuitively sense, and I’ll keep one or two dropsets in my own workouts, but I guess thats the core scientific question here.

    • @mountaindog1
      @mountaindog1  4 года назад +1

      fatigue does help - as long as its not insane fatigue that can actually kill muscle fibers....like when you are sore for 7 days straight on a bodypart for example..

  • @joslinnick
    @joslinnick 4 года назад +1

    I like drop sets because they allow me to concentrate on proper form after higher intensity sets.

  • @bkhodaie
    @bkhodaie 4 года назад +1

    Great video. Can you make more regarding other intensifiers? Rest pause, dead stops, etc.

  • @jonwill
    @jonwill 4 года назад +1

    Well presented; thank you for sharing.

  • @abdelrahmanali3910
    @abdelrahmanali3910 4 года назад

    Hello john thanks alot for the video quality info as always, can you expand more on length tensions maybe another video or in your q and a is that why you think partial lateral raises are a great side delt builder ,again thanks alot for the info you are putting out

  • @iraqmuzic1
    @iraqmuzic1 4 года назад +1

    Now I fully understand why I’m not recovering properly 😑... thank you 🤜🤛

  • @igorfitness
    @igorfitness 4 года назад +3

    Really cool way of training explanation

  • @BOBANDVEG
    @BOBANDVEG 4 года назад +1

    Video topic suggestion:
    "5x5 and the rapid plateau"

  • @max_fjellstorm
    @max_fjellstorm 4 года назад

    Honestly guys, if an oldschool bodybuilder like JM does something it will be valuable... no doubt about that

  • @CameraSGH
    @CameraSGH 4 года назад

    Dear Sir, in your next Q&A could you please share your views on whether Hyperplasia is possible in humans? I read that weighted stretches can potentially induce Hyperplasia but there seems to be very little information available about this. As I understand it, Hyperplasia is when we actually build new muscle fibers rather than expanding the girth of existing ones i.e. hypertrophy.
    Regards from the U.K.,
    Karl.

  • @korbandallas8931
    @korbandallas8931 4 года назад +1

    great men make great videos

  • @peterdarling1965
    @peterdarling1965 4 года назад

    Great Info. Thanks John!

  • @nathannewman799
    @nathannewman799 4 года назад +1

    after standard pyramid, double drop today on the super squat 4 plates a side, 3 then 2, 10 reps each (and ya Im 60 with a 6 mo old hip replacement lol)

  • @dilyantodev3180
    @dilyantodev3180 3 года назад

    Great videos, sir !

  • @abzdine
    @abzdine 4 года назад

    I think the problem with these and going beyond failure is that they fatigue the muscles so much that they require longer time to recover between sessions.. I personally get a decrease in performance the following week and I started to use drop sets on my last week before deload so I can go all out!!
    Drop sets also are good to keep that motivation high, I always look forward to the week where I can use different techniques, also because I know I'm getting a reward with a deload week.. It's mental..
    God bless!

  • @devoncampbell531
    @devoncampbell531 4 года назад +1

    I was doing 6 normal sets a week on lateral raise and then started doing 6 sets each of them being dropset and my shoulder's gained mass and strength much quicker