One thing to consider: the "ancient ports" are there because many of the business units are industrial, and may have hardware that requires PS2, Serial, and VGA connections.
"many of the business" LOL yeah sure.. "may have hardware" of course buddy. the points is 98% of motherboards since 2011 should not have PS2 ports... and there should only be some motherboards with horrible aesthetics and strange prices specifically for the industrial or medical work sector... but that is not the case.
PS/2 ports are there for some work environments to disable USB ports for security and still have a functional PC (e.g hospitals, defense companies). Modern ASUS motherboards for industrial / OEM use still have 2 PS/2 ports for this reason
I know it's a bit of an unfair advantage but I built a system similar to this using an HP prodesk of some sort that I got for free from a local office when they were doing a clean out of old systems. It had an i7 6700, 32gb ddr4 RAM, and a 400w 80+ gold power supply. I spent about $150 to get a gtx 1660 super and a 1tb ssd, which is the best I could squeeze into the system without needing a better power supply. It absolutely crushes games at 1080p.
Lol. On a similar story, one of the companies i work with was tossing out a "defective" pc, they told me i could have it, just in case there were parts i could use. The pc was built inside a cheap low profile case.. When i tested it, it would not boot... i re--seated the memory ram and it worked LOL. It ended up being an i7 8700, with 1 stick of 8gb ram, on a very smal h81 mobo, and it even had a wifi card. The system booted straight into the bios, but i just had to select the ssd as boot drive... Yes it came with a 240gb ssd and 1 tb hdd! Crazy!. The thing is tho... i took out all the components and put them in a better case and flipped them for a profit, from which i bought a 5600g and 16 gb of ram, b550 mobo with wifi, and an nvme 500gb. I put all in the same case, to wich i added a handle, and attacked a laptop screen 15.6", to make an "all in one" pc that could run games. Later tho, i sold the internals again LOL. And now that pc has an i5 12400f, 1tb nvme, 2x8gb ram sticks, and an rtx 4060 low profile LOL.
$150 is a bit much to pay for a 1660 Super but OP's build is only $100 because of a unicorn deal. Meanwhile, I theoretically could have built a machine with an i7-4790S and a 2060 this year for right at $200 and crushed it even harder than you. I paid $120 for the 2060 6GB that was used for mining; I had to refurbish it but it scores very well on benchmarks. The machine I actually built has a 670 SC for playing older and vintage games on digital services that now need Windows 10. But that GPU cost $25. The rest of the system was $75. I didn't get any unicorn deals but I got good deals on everything. Deals most people could get with a small amount of effort. So if I put my $120 2060 in there, it would be a solid budget 1080p machine for $200. OP is definitely losing out on frames because of the non-HT quad core. Skylake was a dead generation - essentially no better performing than Haswell. Same feature set. Generally an abortion of a generation. The only thing more pathetic were the Broadwell dual core i7 mobile CPUs. And, of course, all of the 13th and 14th gen CPUs are more pathetic than that. They will all fail prematurely.
in dec 2022, i bought 2 office pcs for 100 bucks. one had i5-6500 and the other has a i5-8400. both 8gb ram. i bought it locally and the guy delivered to me at my friends house along with 2 hdmi monitors. i gave my friend the 6th gen on the spot as a christmas gift and i kept the other one since we were wanting to start pc gaming at the time. i have a rtx 3050 6gb low profile and 24 gb ram now. its small form factor
Honestly it's impressive to get a machine together for just a hundred bucks, bit realistically I'd recommend saving up another hundred. With a 200 buck budget you could upgrade the gpu to something like a 1660 super/ti and get a reasonable bump on the gpu end, and could possible squeeze in a used 6700 cpu, which has hyper threads which would sure up the 1% lows you were seeing. Honestly 200 is probably the more realistic super budget goal to aim for if someone were realistically looking to game on a budget system.
I've been doing research on it a lot lately and you can get an 8th gen i5 optiplex for like $100 and chuck a 1660s in there for like another $50 then u can use a double sata to 6 pin adapter or find a case and psu for cheap and grab an m.2 sata nvme and ram upgrade. Easily a monster of a rig with a 6 core 12 thread cpu
I picked up an HP workstation a while back with an i7 6700, 16gb ram, and a Quadro M4000 8gb. All for $100, shipped to my door. The quadro wasn’t even that bad it performed like a 950 but I swapped it out for a 1080ti I got for another hundred bucks and off to the races.
A lot of the higher spec workstations come with pretty solid PSUs, up to 850W with two and even three PCIE power connectors. A 6700 and 1080ti is an absolutely capable gaming PC. I sold one a few months ago, custom build with an i7 6700 and an RX580 8GB, and it was capable of running Starfield with medium settings, I tried a 2070 Super in it, and the bottle neck wasn't as bad as you might think.
and the thing is that they insist with wasting money on something that cost at least twice of the used parts while slower performance ruclips.net/video/88lzrIlrkh8/видео.htmlsi=58jBvzd7E_DyyB5z with how fucked up the gpu market are, you either accept the risk of used parts or stop being poor and pay for prenium
Based on the number of DOA and underperforming new GPUs I've seen in recent years, buying a GPU with a couple years use on it is a better bet than buying new. Think of it like an extended QC check..I bought a mining used 2060 this year that is solid as a rock (after I refurbished it) and outperforms most 2060s in benchmark testing. But if it weren't for people like that buying new cars, I couldn't get a bargain on a used car. Same goes for GPUs. So let them be ignorant and stop pointing it out. When I consider budget PC building, the most important thing to remember is that trying to cobble together hardware that is several years old to make a cheap gaming PC is not something a lot of people can do effectively. Even the scouring of Ebay that is often involved is a skill unto itself. I can get great deals on hardware. But your average noob, trying to claw and scrape their way into current AAA gaming, usually can't. Knowledge of hardware and the relative performance thereof is crucial. It allows you to avoid the many pricing traps you can run into where certain hardware is just more expensive for no good reason. Pricing is not well correlated to actual performance. Skylake is one of those pricing traps. OP could have had a Haswell i7 for what they paid for a Skylake i5. The performance difference between Haswell and Skylake is margin of error. Instruction set and features are the same, with the exception of the DDR4 support with Skylake. But it is irrelevant because Skylake only supports up to 2133MT/s. DDR4-2133 will always perform worse than DDR3-1600. So even if you have a Skylake CPU, it is going to be better to run it on a DDR3 MB. I tried to warn people about DDR5 but people took a noticeable step back just to get on DDR5 to get worse RAM performance for more money. Early adoption is never a good idea and that comes from more than 3 decades of experience. Early DDR5 is why the gaming performance difference between the 5800X3D and 7800X3D is miniscule. DDR4-3200 barely outperforms DDR3-1600. DDR5-5600 is worse performing than DDR4-3200. You need expensive DDR5-6400 at CL30 to slightly outperform cheap DDR4-3200 CL16. Transfer rate and clock latency determine actual bandwidth and a new iteration of DDR may double the former but also double the latter. Actual efficiency increases from one generation to the next are minimal. In terms of theoretical bandwidth, DDR2-800 CL4 = DDR3-1600 CL8 = DDR4-3200 CL16 = DDR5-6400 CL32.
The only new components in my PC are CPU, Storage and the case. I bought everything else second hand. Runs absolutely amazing no issues whatsoever and i saved quite a bit of money compared to buying it all new.
The people that know what they're doing will buy 2nd hand. 1st time builders? Most definitely not which is understandable. The thing is if you know where to buy 2nd hand equipment you can get great deals and well looked after equipment. I've been a member of an overclocking forum for almost 15 years now and the trading there is still as busy as ever. I've got a $5-10k in trades there everything from custom waterblocks, delidded CPUs to sticks of RAM. I'm not into hardcore overclocking anymore but those forums are still useful. All the long timers know each other and there's a degree of trust. But as for Facebook marketplace/ebay/craigslist etc? Yeah no that's a massive crapshoot
@@TechByMattB the real gold mine with those is if you find one with alot of SD card reader attached, then any physical media is yours to store things on
Hey, Those errors upon bootup can be removed so you dont have to hit f1 every time you turn the pc on. Google about the pinout on the usb 3.0 connector and short the sense pin to the ground and the pc will think that usb cable is connected, I've done this a couple times with great success... wish you the best. cheers
I've used a very similar HP system for a previous build for a friend. It adds a bit to the total budget but you can get a slim USB 3.0 header extension cable that will just fit under the GPU in order to keep the front IO working.
This was an awesome build on a budget! 👍 I would love to see a future video, showing reasonable upgrades (ie, E3-1270 v5 if the mobo supports it, selling the RX 470 and picking up an RTX 2060) to see if it would be worth investing a bit more into the system OR if it would be best to sell the unit as a whole and build out an AM4 system.
The only thing I have to say is about the Helldivers 2 benchmark. My current pc has an i5 7500 and a GTX 1660 Ti with 16 Gb DDR4 RAM at 3200. Anything over "Hard" difficulty is entirely unplayable, at least as of a few months ago. Had to drop the game due to constant stuttering and egregious input latency with large groups of enemies due to what I assume is cpu overload, and you can't really progress past a certain point unless you can play at higher difficulties. If possible, I'd recommend running a benchmark at max difficulty for that game specifically, or any game that has cpu-intensive gameplay at any given point. I know Borderlands 3 can have very large groups of enemies also, but I haven't tested it on my pc yet.
4:29 ...two DIMM slots... yeah and it looks like they COULD have put four on the board when they built it, but they didn't want to SPLURGE on the DIMM slots! Penny pinch much, HP? I wonder if anyone good with a soldering iron could add them, maybe salvage them from a donor board, and it would just work? Don't see why not as long as the traces are connected to the socket.
Bruh its a product made for office spaces and work stations. Its not really made with upgradability in mind, its made to be as cheap and sturdy as possible
Right here with you. Recently built a $90 PC with an i5 4590, 12GB RAM (not my configuration but pre-done) XFX R9 270X, 1TB HDD and 256GB SSD. Plays all the games I wanna play just fine :)
I love seeing these extreme budget builds! It can be intimidating as someone who is broke, and/or doesn't know about PC hardware to consider PC gaming. Approaches like this using used hardware can get you VERY far for not a lot of money.
was still using a 6600 until april this year. currently on a 5700x3d now. and the 6600 is a dedicated arcade machine/plex i built, it has a rtx 1660ti.
I set my son, aged 17, up with a decent PC for not a lot of money (about GB£120), it has a 1050Ti, a 4th gen i7, 512gb SSD, a 750W gold PSU, a 1TB HDD and 32GB of DDR3 ram. There is a CEX by him and we mapped out an upgrade path for him with new mobo, DDR4 ram and a better CPU for about GB£75 so he can get up to 6th or 7th gen i5/i7 which means he has a really capable gaming PC for about GB£200 if he goes with upgrades and if he sells the parts he no longer needs he knocks £20-30 off that price.
It's such a shame you couldn't find something nearby for local pickup a quarter of the build went to delivery, $25 could've gone to an RX580 possibly. I also think you could gone as low as high end Haswell cpu (i7 4770-4790) to pair with anything up to a 1060/rx580 so they're not bottlenecking each other. Have to also understand the people making these type of builds aren't going to be using monitors with high refresh rates, so more likely 1080p 60FPS is kinda ideal. Anything more is wasted. Also just as a sidenote for anyone doing this be a bit careful when buying Dell/Acer/HP OEM desktops, they tend to randomly have proprietary power connectors to the motherboard, sometimes within the same model series. You may need to buy an adaptor so you can use your ATX PSU
You know it'd be great if kids these days learned a bit more about computers. I remember gaming on the office pc my family had, something that was maybe $400, obviously low end and never meant to be gamed on. But if kids knew more they could do small upgrades like this to get a basic gaming set up without breaking the bank.
I recently put together a gaming pc using a rebuilt dell precision t5810,the specs r xeon 2680 v4,32gb 2400 ddr4 ram,2tb hdd, 500gb ssd and I put a rx 6600 xt in it and does 1440p and 4k gaming around 70 to 90fps on high settings,actually surprised me alot tbh and only cost me £285 which is a little over 300 usd.
Removing the optical drive? That cuts you off from a LOT of options. Having at least one optical drive in a desktop is an absolute requirement for me (for laptops I would prefer it, but may have to rely on a dock/port replicator for that).
I love the video! Awesome job and computer for litterally 100$ I am also sad that you didn't fall on a 20$ 8GB RX580, that would have made a fair difference. As much as I always had AMD's, even during their bad times, the old Intel chips are legendary for ultra cheap gaming PC's. Pre and during covid I sold my ITX Ryzen to a friend and got myself a cheap I5-2400. I later upgraded it for a Xeon1230v2 chip (like a lower clocked I7) Later a friend simply gave me his old I5-6600K GPU wise I went from a used GTX570 that died shortly after buying used, I RMAed it and Zotac sent me a GTX680 which I used for a while. Just at the start of covid before the crazy GPU Prices I snagged myself a 250$ GTX1070. Honestly if your budget was 200$... the HDD can go up to 500GB with a GTX 1070... the performance would almost be double.
you can get them mining 4gb rx 470s for 25 bucks all day only downside it either only has just dvi or hdmi port only also with quad core cpus for fortnite use performance mode but also run resolution at 1600 by 900 or 1360 by 768 with 83% res scale it will up the performance by a lot.
Very nice my friend! My daughter found an old Gateway that had an i-7 2600 8 gigs of RAM and a 1 TB WD hdd also had a HD 6850. I loaded Windows 10 and was able to play Fortnite pretty well on it not too bad for something that was in the trash.
After building multiple office gaming pcs with 4th and 6th gen CPUs, I can definitely tell you that the Fortnite stuttering issue is something related to shaders. Once you play a game or two, the stutters go away. They are a one-time thing, and once the lag is gone its mostly gone until the next game update. (I die on purpose and spectate somebody until the game ends, it gets all the stutters out of the way). I recently built a sub-100 dollar pc (i5-4590 and rx570 4g) and its working great in Fortnite after some HUGE stuttering. I also tried dx12 and the stuttering was gone, but had tons of missing textures and audio cutout. Dx11 is the way to go, you just need to power through the initial unplayable lagfest 😅
I enjoy doing it the first way you described. Collecting all the parts and putting it together myself. And since budget is really an issue where I am from used parts is the only way to go. I have not tried the equivalent of 100USD though. My recent build cost the equivalent of 500USD. Nice one going the used pre-build route. I might just try this too.
This is actually a pretty neat build, even if you got screwed a bit on the GPU. I like the sleeper look of those office PCs. You could put a monster in those and nobody would notice unless they open the case.
Dude, that's a super-amazing deal for PC and GPU! Make sure to thoroughly undust/cleanse all parts (even PSU), and change CPU/GPU Thermal Compound. Optionally repaint it; at least outside (ModsTek ideas?).
I had that PC, I mean the base PC, which I bought with the intention of converting it into a gaming PC. I was annoyed about the front usb errors during boot, luckily you can do something about it - buy a 90 degree adapter, so you can connect front usb3 to your pc As for audio - you should be able to just plug it in, I don't see a reason to just leaving it unplugged, since it was plugged previously BTW - if you're going to case swap motherboard from this pc please make sure that the power supply cables have enough length to connect to your motherboard I was waiting for new PSU and decided to throw original PSU to new case just to find out that the cables were too short
This pc really sets the bar for cheap esports used pc's. Though I would think finding a similar 16gb with and i5 6600 is hard to find for $60 with shipping. I'd be interested to know what this would sell for on ebay or fbm.
Good video, I assume something like this would easily run older titles? Fallout 4 / Skyrim / D2R - that sort of thing? What about some of the FTP titles out there like Warframe or Crossout?
I would love to see stats of machines like this running less than 1080p, I know this isn't for everyone but I'm someone that likes gaming on smaller ress monitors, some for the retro and some because it is a great way to make a pile of crap run an otherwise really good game very well, Used to do this with Half life and L4d back when I had a core 2 duo barely clocking 1.8ghz. Good video though and darn nice finds.
You should try testing this system with the mod that allows you to use AMD or NVIDIA's frame generation technology on older cards. I tried it with cyberpunk on a old 1070 and it got me a pretty decent FPS boost.
fortnite downloads textures while you play, that might have been the issue? you can force download everything at once but for first boot it usually stutters if it doesnt have all the resources (download pre-streamed assets or something)
I personally don't like spending too much on PC hardware. My PC definitely proves that. If you set your strategy right, you can have a pretty good gaming experience for reasonable price. If you lower your expectations, you'll have a great time.
Did you try to run Fortnite in performance mode? I think the default setting is DX11 and changing to performance mode actually helps a lot especially on older hardware. But a solid build for $100, great vid mate.
So how standard are the other connectors on that motherboard? Just wondering how tough it would be to swap it into a better looking standard atx case. Although it’s kind of cool that it has an inverted layout.
I like looking for cheap LGA-2011-3 or 6th/7th gen intel boards as well. You can find Xeon processors for super cheap, and you get NVME support on most motherboards.
yes he did, that 300w PSU did not even have PCI-E power connectors. you know CPU and GPU feed of +12V right? you know if you use sata or molex adaptors it's wrong because those are +3.3v and +5v not +12v right? you know you risk smoking the system when the PSU pepsies?
I just built a old gaming pc for less than $90, an alienware alpha "broken". Needed a new c-mos battery, cost $5 on amazon. Had a newer i5, to upgrade the i3 so that was free. and threw in a 500gb sata ssd to replace the hdd, and all i play is tf2 and its perfect for that
If you had sold the DVD drive, what would you have done with the gap it would have left in the front fascia? Would you have covered it with something? Or just left it open?
Here's a single problem I have with the "actually getting into gaming is way cheaper than you think" argument. Whoever wants to get into gaming, and has little budget for it, probably doesn't know how to build PCs. They don't wanna search all over the internet and make sure everything they need is compatible and get the best offers and then put it all together and then troubleshoot if needed and go through hoops of selling stuff and praying to whatever they believe in that someone actually buys it. The amount of people that want to get into gaming, have a 100$ budget (without tax which I think is misleading because the person still has to pay tax at the end of the day), but also know their ins and outs of building a pc and will be able to troubleshoot, is VERY low, near-zero. This is the kind of a fun project someone WITH money to spare and pc building experience would do. 100$ isn't a lot of money to throw out, you can have your fun, see what kind of performance you can achieve etc. But for an average Joe that just wants his PC to work and wants to have a warranty to get it replaced if needed, this kind of thing just isn't viable. This isn't the kind of video that should be addressed towards those, the video for those people should be what kind of pre-built PC should they get, what to look for, and what to avoid. Don't take this as hate, I really like the video a lot, because I love budget builds and your content is good, I just think it's not addressed to who it should be and I wanted to say all of that to any potential average Joes watching this video :3
I LITERALLY got this pc just now for 20 dollars on facebook marketplace, this video was literally recommended to me by the heavens above since I was looking through RUclips endlessly on how to give it a necessary upgrade.
I am a noob to the pc modding world. Just curious, is that it? Is there nothing that would push this to a higher level on a budget? Cooling, more ram, better hard drive? I understand the hard ware parts, I just have a hard time understanding how to diagnose what limits what when it comes to a pc. I don't game. Im a cnc machinist, and my cad/cam software fusion 360 is constantly taking very long to process some of my more complicated designs. I find very few useful videos on the topic except for gaming rigs.
Quad cores that old just aren't enough for a smooth experience. I'd at least upgrade it to an i5 8700. Though if you can afford $100, you can probably afford 200$ to get something twice as good.
I wonder how it does for video editing or live streaming, I remember when I was a kid I had a craptop and I used to max the shit out of that CPU to livestream roblox and minecraft, ahh good times lol.
Heh too bad your not local, and I heard of this sooner. I'd have traded you a 256gb ssd for the optical drive and wifi card. got a bunch of those laying around :P
Hey bro I'm watching from Egypt I was able to find an HP z230 workstation system that comes with a 4 cores 8 threads cpu with 3.8 ghz boost I'm not talking about i7 4770 it's the xeon e3 1245 v3 Wich actually the same With 16 gb of ram and 512 ssd plus 500 hdd for an 100$ Considering that the ssd was new sealed it's very competitive price for the system the advantage of this z230 is the big free space for vga cards and the 400w psu which is able to power an rx 580 or gtx 1660 ti
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One thing to consider: the "ancient ports" are there because many of the business units are industrial, and may have hardware that requires PS2, Serial, and VGA connections.
"many of the business" LOL yeah sure.. "may have hardware" of course buddy. the points is 98% of motherboards since 2011 should not have PS2 ports... and there should only be some motherboards with horrible aesthetics and strange prices specifically for the industrial or medical work sector... but that is not the case.
yeah , "ancients ports" are still on these pre-built desktops to accommodate the pre-existing hardware a business may already have.
PS/2 ports are there for some work environments to disable USB ports for security and still have a functional PC (e.g hospitals, defense companies). Modern ASUS motherboards for industrial / OEM use still have 2 PS/2 ports for this reason
I know it's a bit of an unfair advantage but I built a system similar to this using an HP prodesk of some sort that I got for free from a local office when they were doing a clean out of old systems. It had an i7 6700, 32gb ddr4 RAM, and a 400w 80+ gold power supply. I spent about $150 to get a gtx 1660 super and a 1tb ssd, which is the best I could squeeze into the system without needing a better power supply. It absolutely crushes games at 1080p.
damn thats kinda fire hows temps ?
@tylerfreal6472 surprisingly good for only having 1 intake and 1 exhaust fan, under typical gaming load it's about 75-80 degrees celsius
Lol. On a similar story, one of the companies i work with was tossing out a "defective" pc, they told me i could have it, just in case there were parts i could use. The pc was built inside a cheap low profile case..
When i tested it, it would not boot... i re--seated the memory ram and it worked LOL. It ended up being an i7 8700, with 1 stick of 8gb ram, on a very smal h81 mobo, and it even had a wifi card. The system booted straight into the bios, but i just had to select the ssd as boot drive... Yes it came with a 240gb ssd and 1 tb hdd! Crazy!.
The thing is tho... i took out all the components and put them in a better case and flipped them for a profit, from which i bought a 5600g and 16 gb of ram, b550 mobo with wifi, and an nvme 500gb. I put all in the same case, to wich i added a handle, and attacked a laptop screen 15.6", to make an "all in one" pc that could run games.
Later tho, i sold the internals again LOL. And now that pc has an i5 12400f, 1tb nvme, 2x8gb ram sticks, and an rtx 4060 low profile LOL.
$150 is a bit much to pay for a 1660 Super but OP's build is only $100 because of a unicorn deal. Meanwhile, I theoretically could have built a machine with an i7-4790S and a 2060 this year for right at $200 and crushed it even harder than you. I paid $120 for the 2060 6GB that was used for mining; I had to refurbish it but it scores very well on benchmarks. The machine I actually built has a 670 SC for playing older and vintage games on digital services that now need Windows 10. But that GPU cost $25. The rest of the system was $75. I didn't get any unicorn deals but I got good deals on everything. Deals most people could get with a small amount of effort. So if I put my $120 2060 in there, it would be a solid budget 1080p machine for $200.
OP is definitely losing out on frames because of the non-HT quad core. Skylake was a dead generation - essentially no better performing than Haswell. Same feature set. Generally an abortion of a generation. The only thing more pathetic were the Broadwell dual core i7 mobile CPUs. And, of course, all of the 13th and 14th gen CPUs are more pathetic than that. They will all fail prematurely.
@@Lurch-Bot Does refurbished mean cleaning the dust out and renewing the thermal paste?
in dec 2022, i bought 2 office pcs for 100 bucks. one had i5-6500 and the other has a i5-8400. both 8gb ram. i bought it locally and the guy delivered to me at my friends house along with 2 hdmi monitors. i gave my friend the 6th gen on the spot as a christmas gift and i kept the other one since we were wanting to start pc gaming at the time. i have a rtx 3050 6gb low profile and 24 gb ram now. its small form factor
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Matt. You are the low key king of budget builds on RUclips. Been watching you for years bro. Keep up the amazing work
Honestly it's impressive to get a machine together for just a hundred bucks, bit realistically I'd recommend saving up another hundred. With a 200 buck budget you could upgrade the gpu to something like a 1660 super/ti and get a reasonable bump on the gpu end, and could possible squeeze in a used 6700 cpu, which has hyper threads which would sure up the 1% lows you were seeing.
Honestly 200 is probably the more realistic super budget goal to aim for if someone were realistically looking to game on a budget system.
I've been doing research on it a lot lately and you can get an 8th gen i5 optiplex for like $100 and chuck a 1660s in there for like another $50 then u can use a double sata to 6 pin adapter or find a case and psu for cheap and grab an m.2 sata nvme and ram upgrade. Easily a monster of a rig with a 6 core 12 thread cpu
@@VZR_dayum $50 dollar 1660s, i'm jelly of your location price
I picked up an HP workstation a while back with an i7 6700, 16gb ram, and a Quadro M4000 8gb. All for $100, shipped to my door. The quadro wasn’t even that bad it performed like a 950 but I swapped it out for a 1080ti I got for another hundred bucks and off to the races.
What about the power supply restraints?
@@theonewhoknocks797 I think workstations actually have a decent power supply. like 500w 80+ gold with 6pin pcie
A lot of the higher spec workstations come with pretty solid PSUs, up to 850W with two and even three PCIE power connectors. A 6700 and 1080ti is an absolutely capable gaming PC. I sold one a few months ago, custom build with an i7 6700 and an RX580 8GB, and it was capable of running Starfield with medium settings, I tried a 2070 Super in it, and the bottle neck wasn't as bad as you might think.
I always appreciate your budget builds. You prove that you don't have to spend a fortune to get into PC Gaming. Well Done. 👍👍
The thing is that most people don't actually consider buying used parts. They insist on buying new 🤷🤷
and the thing is that they insist with wasting money on something that cost at least twice of the used parts while slower performance
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with how fucked up the gpu market are, you either accept the risk of used parts or stop being poor and pay for prenium
Based on the number of DOA and underperforming new GPUs I've seen in recent years, buying a GPU with a couple years use on it is a better bet than buying new. Think of it like an extended QC check..I bought a mining used 2060 this year that is solid as a rock (after I refurbished it) and outperforms most 2060s in benchmark testing.
But if it weren't for people like that buying new cars, I couldn't get a bargain on a used car. Same goes for GPUs. So let them be ignorant and stop pointing it out.
When I consider budget PC building, the most important thing to remember is that trying to cobble together hardware that is several years old to make a cheap gaming PC is not something a lot of people can do effectively. Even the scouring of Ebay that is often involved is a skill unto itself. I can get great deals on hardware. But your average noob, trying to claw and scrape their way into current AAA gaming, usually can't. Knowledge of hardware and the relative performance thereof is crucial. It allows you to avoid the many pricing traps you can run into where certain hardware is just more expensive for no good reason. Pricing is not well correlated to actual performance. Skylake is one of those pricing traps. OP could have had a Haswell i7 for what they paid for a Skylake i5. The performance difference between Haswell and Skylake is margin of error. Instruction set and features are the same, with the exception of the DDR4 support with Skylake. But it is irrelevant because Skylake only supports up to 2133MT/s. DDR4-2133 will always perform worse than DDR3-1600. So even if you have a Skylake CPU, it is going to be better to run it on a DDR3 MB. I tried to warn people about DDR5 but people took a noticeable step back just to get on DDR5 to get worse RAM performance for more money. Early adoption is never a good idea and that comes from more than 3 decades of experience. Early DDR5 is why the gaming performance difference between the 5800X3D and 7800X3D is miniscule.
DDR4-3200 barely outperforms DDR3-1600. DDR5-5600 is worse performing than DDR4-3200. You need expensive DDR5-6400 at CL30 to slightly outperform cheap DDR4-3200 CL16. Transfer rate and clock latency determine actual bandwidth and a new iteration of DDR may double the former but also double the latter. Actual efficiency increases from one generation to the next are minimal. In terms of theoretical bandwidth, DDR2-800 CL4 = DDR3-1600 CL8 = DDR4-3200 CL16 = DDR5-6400 CL32.
I always look for used PC parts like GC , MB and Processor which I can find. For PSU, SSD go for new always.
The only new components in my PC are CPU, Storage and the case. I bought everything else second hand. Runs absolutely amazing no issues whatsoever and i saved quite a bit of money compared to buying it all new.
The people that know what they're doing will buy 2nd hand. 1st time builders? Most definitely not which is understandable. The thing is if you know where to buy 2nd hand equipment you can get great deals and well looked after equipment. I've been a member of an overclocking forum for almost 15 years now and the trading there is still as busy as ever. I've got a $5-10k in trades there everything from custom waterblocks, delidded CPUs to sticks of RAM. I'm not into hardcore overclocking anymore but those forums are still useful. All the long timers know each other and there's a degree of trust. But as for Facebook marketplace/ebay/craigslist etc? Yeah no that's a massive crapshoot
I can't believe how you were able to sell a cd drive and WiFi card for 20😮
I sold the power supply and wifi card, I kept the CD drive.
@@TechByMattB Oh sry my bad
@@TechByMattB the real gold mine with those is if you find one with alot of SD card reader attached, then any physical media is yours to store things on
There are people😳
isn't that a dvd r drive?
Hey, Those errors upon bootup can be removed so you dont have to hit f1 every time you turn the pc on. Google about the pinout on the usb 3.0 connector and short the sense pin to the ground and the pc will think that usb cable is connected, I've done this a couple times with great success... wish you the best. cheers
also works on the audio connector as well. just google a bit and trial and error
I've used a very similar HP system for a previous build for a friend. It adds a bit to the total budget but you can get a slim USB 3.0 header extension cable that will just fit under the GPU in order to keep the front IO working.
I could smell the used rx 580 from 5 vids away.
This was an awesome build on a budget! 👍 I would love to see a future video, showing reasonable upgrades (ie, E3-1270 v5 if the mobo supports it, selling the RX 470 and picking up an RTX 2060) to see if it would be worth investing a bit more into the system OR if it would be best to sell the unit as a whole and build out an AM4 system.
And you know what? He could sell the i5 and RX 470 and only only have to invest another $30-$50 bucks for those upgrades.
The only thing I have to say is about the Helldivers 2 benchmark. My current pc has an i5 7500 and a GTX 1660 Ti with 16 Gb DDR4 RAM at 3200. Anything over "Hard" difficulty is entirely unplayable, at least as of a few months ago. Had to drop the game due to constant stuttering and egregious input latency with large groups of enemies due to what I assume is cpu overload, and you can't really progress past a certain point unless you can play at higher difficulties. If possible, I'd recommend running a benchmark at max difficulty for that game specifically, or any game that has cpu-intensive gameplay at any given point. I know Borderlands 3 can have very large groups of enemies also, but I haven't tested it on my pc yet.
20 years ago when i was in my teens you couldn't even get near this type of performance at around 1000 $ , this is a gem bro
no shit
4:29 ...two DIMM slots... yeah and it looks like they COULD have put four on the board when they built it, but they didn't want to SPLURGE on the DIMM slots! Penny pinch much, HP? I wonder if anyone good with a soldering iron could add them, maybe salvage them from a donor board, and it would just work? Don't see why not as long as the traces are connected to the socket.
Bruh its a product made for office spaces and work stations. Its not really made with upgradability in mind, its made to be as cheap and sturdy as possible
Right here with you. Recently built a $90 PC with an i5 4590, 12GB RAM (not my configuration but pre-done) XFX R9 270X, 1TB HDD and 256GB SSD. Plays all the games I wanna play just fine :)
good bro i think if have a budget get a gtx 1050 ti or something youy would be good
I love seeing these extreme budget builds! It can be intimidating as someone who is broke, and/or doesn't know about PC hardware to consider PC gaming. Approaches like this using used hardware can get you VERY far for not a lot of money.
was still using a 6600 until april this year. currently on a 5700x3d now. and the 6600 is a dedicated arcade machine/plex i built, it has a rtx 1660ti.
I set my son, aged 17, up with a decent PC for not a lot of money (about GB£120), it has a 1050Ti, a 4th gen i7, 512gb SSD, a 750W gold PSU, a 1TB HDD and 32GB of DDR3 ram. There is a CEX by him and we mapped out an upgrade path for him with new mobo, DDR4 ram and a better CPU for about GB£75 so he can get up to 6th or 7th gen i5/i7 which means he has a really capable gaming PC for about GB£200 if he goes with upgrades and if he sells the parts he no longer needs he knocks £20-30 off that price.
It's such a shame you couldn't find something nearby for local pickup a quarter of the build went to delivery, $25 could've gone to an RX580 possibly. I also think you could gone as low as high end Haswell cpu (i7 4770-4790) to pair with anything up to a 1060/rx580 so they're not bottlenecking each other. Have to also understand the people making these type of builds aren't going to be using monitors with high refresh rates, so more likely 1080p 60FPS is kinda ideal. Anything more is wasted. Also just as a sidenote for anyone doing this be a bit careful when buying Dell/Acer/HP OEM desktops, they tend to randomly have proprietary power connectors to the motherboard, sometimes within the same model series. You may need to buy an adaptor so you can use your ATX PSU
You know it'd be great if kids these days learned a bit more about computers. I remember gaming on the office pc my family had, something that was maybe $400, obviously low end and never meant to be gamed on. But if kids knew more they could do small upgrades like this to get a basic gaming set up without breaking the bank.
Awesome work. Would be cool to see how steam os could imrpove triple a performance
For $100 it's damm good. Wish I could do as well.
I recently put together a gaming pc using a rebuilt dell precision t5810,the specs r xeon 2680 v4,32gb 2400 ddr4 ram,2tb hdd, 500gb ssd and I put a rx 6600 xt in it and does 1440p and 4k gaming around 70 to 90fps on high settings,actually surprised me alot tbh and only cost me £285 which is a little over 300 usd.
Removing the optical drive? That cuts you off from a LOT of options. Having at least one optical drive in a desktop is an absolute requirement for me (for laptops I would prefer it, but may have to rely on a dock/port replicator for that).
I love the video! Awesome job and computer for litterally 100$
I am also sad that you didn't fall on a 20$ 8GB RX580, that would have made a fair difference.
As much as I always had AMD's, even during their bad times, the old Intel chips are legendary for ultra cheap gaming PC's.
Pre and during covid I sold my ITX Ryzen to a friend and got myself a cheap I5-2400. I later upgraded it for a Xeon1230v2 chip (like a lower clocked I7)
Later a friend simply gave me his old I5-6600K
GPU wise I went from a used GTX570 that died shortly after buying used, I RMAed it and Zotac sent me a GTX680 which I used for a while.
Just at the start of covid before the crazy GPU Prices I snagged myself a 250$ GTX1070.
Honestly if your budget was 200$... the HDD can go up to 500GB with a GTX 1070... the performance would almost be double.
I expected "This is YOUR daily dose of internet"
You can get 4th and 6th gen systems very easily for a sub $100 PC
you can get them mining 4gb rx 470s for 25 bucks all day only downside it either only has just dvi or hdmi port only also with quad core cpus for fortnite use performance mode but also run resolution at 1600 by 900 or 1360 by 768 with 83% res scale it will up the performance by a lot.
A year ago you built a pc inside a xbox. I would love to see a pc inside a ps5 if possible.
Very nice my friend! My daughter found an old Gateway that had an i-7 2600 8 gigs of RAM and a 1 TB WD hdd also had a HD 6850. I loaded Windows 10 and was able to play Fortnite pretty well on it not too bad for something that was in the trash.
After building multiple office gaming pcs with 4th and 6th gen CPUs, I can definitely tell you that the Fortnite stuttering issue is something related to shaders. Once you play a game or two, the stutters go away. They are a one-time thing, and once the lag is gone its mostly gone until the next game update. (I die on purpose and spectate somebody until the game ends, it gets all the stutters out of the way).
I recently built a sub-100 dollar pc (i5-4590 and rx570 4g) and its working great in Fortnite after some HUGE stuttering. I also tried dx12 and the stuttering was gone, but had tons of missing textures and audio cutout. Dx11 is the way to go, you just need to power through the initial unplayable lagfest 😅
I enjoy doing it the first way you described. Collecting all the parts and putting it together myself. And since budget is really an issue where I am from used parts is the only way to go. I have not tried the equivalent of 100USD though. My recent build cost the equivalent of 500USD. Nice one going the used pre-build route. I might just try this too.
I have the same videocard. Great production quality!
This is actually a pretty neat build, even if you got screwed a bit on the GPU.
I like the sleeper look of those office PCs. You could put a monster in those and nobody would notice unless they open the case.
"Very fair and balanced Crucible Knight fight." 😂😂😂
Dude, that's a super-amazing deal for PC and GPU! Make sure to thoroughly undust/cleanse all parts (even PSU), and change CPU/GPU Thermal Compound. Optionally repaint it; at least outside (ModsTek ideas?).
Incredibly well done! As for the GPU, no regrets, even the RX 470 is being pulled down by the i5 6600, so, at least it's balanced.
For a oner you can get a machine that can play all PS4 & Xbone era games like a champ?
I had that PC, I mean the base PC, which I bought with the intention of converting it into a gaming PC. I was annoyed about the front usb errors during boot, luckily you can do something about it - buy a 90 degree adapter, so you can connect front usb3 to your pc
As for audio - you should be able to just plug it in, I don't see a reason to just leaving it unplugged, since it was plugged previously
BTW - if you're going to case swap motherboard from this pc please make sure that the power supply cables have enough length to connect to your motherboard
I was waiting for new PSU and decided to throw original PSU to new case just to find out that the cables were too short
you could get rx 470s for like $20 a while back buy it now and there was no sketchy listing
Damn ive missed this Matt😍😍
This pc really sets the bar for cheap esports used pc's. Though I would think finding a similar 16gb with and i5 6600 is hard to find for $60 with shipping. I'd be interested to know what this would sell for on ebay or fbm.
Good video, I assume something like this would easily run older titles? Fallout 4 / Skyrim / D2R - that sort of thing? What about some of the FTP titles out there like Warframe or Crossout?
Warframe runs on almost anything (it's been ported to Switch) lol
I bought the same exact computer for around $50 CAD plus shipping off eBaY. It runs but I gotta give it some upgrades.
I would love to see stats of machines like this running less than 1080p, I know this isn't for everyone but I'm someone that likes gaming on smaller ress monitors, some for the retro and some because it is a great way to make a pile of crap run an otherwise really good game very well, Used to do this with Half life and L4d back when I had a core 2 duo barely clocking 1.8ghz. Good video though and darn nice finds.
You should try testing this system with the mod that allows you to use AMD or NVIDIA's frame generation technology on older cards. I tried it with cyberpunk on a old 1070 and it got me a pretty decent FPS boost.
fortnite downloads textures while you play, that might have been the issue? you can force download everything at once but for first boot it usually stutters if it doesnt have all the resources (download pre-streamed assets or something)
Would love to see this again but at 200 dollars, I feel like the performance bump would be pretty wild
The cpu is at 100% in the esports titles which is why the fps is so low
Bro i swear he was going to say" Hey everyone this is your dailydose of internet"
I personally don't like spending too much on PC hardware. My PC definitely proves that. If you set your strategy right, you can have a pretty good gaming experience for reasonable price. If you lower your expectations, you'll have a great time.
Did you try to run Fortnite in performance mode? I think the default setting is DX11 and changing to performance mode actually helps a lot especially on older hardware. But a solid build for $100, great vid mate.
Setting an fps cap will significantly improve your performance
This looks to match the minimum specs just released for COD Black Ops 6. Nice!
the dell 4 usb ports up front is so convenient
So how standard are the other connectors on that motherboard? Just wondering how tough it would be to swap it into a better looking standard atx case. Although it’s kind of cool that it has an inverted layout.
just for funsies i found that "gtx 570" gpu listing on ebay. another bidder also bid $20 but you got it bc your bid came 2s sooner lol
Can you show the performance in the same games with fsr
daily dose of internet is that you?
I just picked up a free lot of 3 old hp workstations ended up flipping them for 600+
I like looking for cheap LGA-2011-3 or 6th/7th gen intel boards as well. You can find Xeon processors for super cheap, and you get NVME support on most motherboards.
Good job .... 🎉
You did NOT need to change out the power supply for an RX 470 💀
yes he did, that 300w PSU did not even have PCI-E power connectors. you know CPU and GPU feed of +12V right? you know if you use sata or molex adaptors it's wrong because those are +3.3v and +5v not +12v right? you know you risk smoking the system when the PSU pepsies?
@cosminmilitaru9920 then why do manufacturers include them in the GPU boxes?
I just built a old gaming pc for less than $90, an alienware alpha "broken". Needed a new c-mos battery, cost $5 on amazon. Had a newer i5, to upgrade the i3 so that was free. and threw in a 500gb sata ssd to replace the hdd, and all i play is tf2 and its perfect for that
Imma be able to do this for £50 because my dads work is giving me some desktop pcs to tinker with 😈
If you had sold the DVD drive, what would you have done with the gap it would have left in the front fascia? Would you have covered it with something? Or just left it open?
Amazing!!
I need this but for ryzen
Does his "Hello Everyone" sound like daily Dose of internet? Or is it just me.
Yeahhh! “Hello Everyone, This is YOUR Daily Dose of Internet.”
Same
Here's a single problem I have with the "actually getting into gaming is way cheaper than you think" argument. Whoever wants to get into gaming, and has little budget for it, probably doesn't know how to build PCs. They don't wanna search all over the internet and make sure everything they need is compatible and get the best offers and then put it all together and then troubleshoot if needed and go through hoops of selling stuff and praying to whatever they believe in that someone actually buys it. The amount of people that want to get into gaming, have a 100$ budget (without tax which I think is misleading because the person still has to pay tax at the end of the day), but also know their ins and outs of building a pc and will be able to troubleshoot, is VERY low, near-zero. This is the kind of a fun project someone WITH money to spare and pc building experience would do. 100$ isn't a lot of money to throw out, you can have your fun, see what kind of performance you can achieve etc. But for an average Joe that just wants his PC to work and wants to have a warranty to get it replaced if needed, this kind of thing just isn't viable. This isn't the kind of video that should be addressed towards those, the video for those people should be what kind of pre-built PC should they get, what to look for, and what to avoid.
Don't take this as hate, I really like the video a lot, because I love budget builds and your content is good, I just think it's not addressed to who it should be and I wanted to say all of that to any potential average Joes watching this video :3
I'm very curious what's the highest this type of PC can emulate? Like any Wii or GameCube games?
Nice video and PC.
I just don't get why HP has this weird upside down PC layout. looks weird to me
Of all the games you tested you didn't test the most important game of all... Can it run Doom?
I LITERALLY got this pc just now for 20 dollars on facebook marketplace, this video was literally recommended to me by the heavens above since I was looking through RUclips endlessly on how to give it a necessary upgrade.
But can it run SSBM?
The games you tested are more expensive than the pc
I just seen your subs hit 225k...lol congrats!
i found a decent desktop with an i5 8500 for $12 locally
shipping is really hard on the knees that is why i want meet up or deal with other local so it will defeat the purpose of shipping expense
The most difficult part os finding ssds and gpus, everything else is easy.
I am a noob to the pc modding world. Just curious, is that it? Is there nothing that would push this to a higher level on a budget? Cooling, more ram, better hard drive? I understand the hard ware parts, I just have a hard time understanding how to diagnose what limits what when it comes to a pc. I don't game. Im a cnc machinist, and my cad/cam software fusion 360 is constantly taking very long to process some of my more complicated designs. I find very few useful videos on the topic except for gaming rigs.
this pc with a miners RX 580 would be kinda crazy actually
Did you play Fortnite in performance mode?
your gpu deal are quite good but i think people should hold and save a little bit more money to buy a better gpu
i wished ebay wasnt so expensive in my country the shipment is alwyas 20 30 40 euros no point to buy on ebay here
Quad cores that old just aren't enough for a smooth experience. I'd at least upgrade it to an i5 8700.
Though if you can afford $100, you can probably afford 200$ to get something twice as good.
I was expecting after the hello everyone is the "this is your daily dose of internet".
RX 470 isn't bad at all for 100 bucks
I wonder how it does for video editing or live streaming, I remember when I was a kid I had a craptop and I used to max the shit out of that CPU to livestream roblox and minecraft, ahh good times lol.
can trying loseless scaling help you up stabalize cyberpunk or hell divers at 60?
What about with FSR?
I was thinking the same thing.
Plus, you still have the disk drive so you can play some old CD games too which I'm sure this PC can run5
Heh too bad your not local, and I heard of this sooner. I'd have traded you a 256gb ssd for the optical drive and wifi card. got a bunch of those laying around :P
Hey bro I'm watching from Egypt
I was able to find an HP z230 workstation system that comes with a 4 cores 8 threads cpu with 3.8 ghz boost I'm not talking about i7 4770 it's the xeon e3 1245 v3 Wich actually the same
With 16 gb of ram and 512 ssd plus 500 hdd for an 100$
Considering that the ssd was new sealed it's very competitive price for the system the advantage of this z230 is the big free space for vga cards and the 400w psu which is able to power an rx 580 or gtx 1660 ti
Bro does not get hit by inflation
This is crazy good for $100.
$25 for shipping. WHAT!?!?!