Some of you have inquired regarding the lack of a fan over the top of the Mugen 5. This is a physical limitation of the Aorus board's CPU socket placement and the Mugen's cooler width. A slim fan will fit, you can mount it with screws after removing the mesh panel, or use what are called clevis pins to replace the tool-less hardware. I don't expect that the fan directly overhead for the 30-series FE setup is imperative, although I think it would be marginally helpful. This may be a topic of a quick future video but in general you're already getting some passive airflow exiting overhead the cooler since with the tempered glass panel and a cooler in rear intake this setup runs slightly net positive pressure. The right top fan does most of the heavy lifting because 1) it's mostly unimpeded, 2) it's directly overhead the GPU exhaust and adjacent to the exhaust of the CPU cooler. The air coming out of that fan is a great hand warmer. I will test this more in depth. The real key here is that there are two at the bottom and one on the top right to create the bottom to top vertical airflow.
Found the clevis pins as well when researching this topic earlier today. Someone has also made a 3d printer file on thingyverse for shorter versions of the standard CM pegs. I just so happen to have a 3d printer :)
This is simply false. I have the same case, cooler and motherboard and a fan fits perfectly fine over the Mugen 5. You have to bend the top cooler fan clip a bit, but a 25mm thick fan fits. There's also enough space for a 90x14mm fan at the rear for some rear exhaust. You don't want to have the rear as intake because it's unfiltered. If the case needs more air it can pull it through the motherboard side.
@@MachinesMore Just take some pliers and bend the middle pull tab thing almost straight. Leave just enough bend to be able to hook the rest of the clip onto the cooler fins and you're good to go.
I just tried this again and pre-bent the clip so it’s flush to the heatsink. Unfortunately with the fan I just tested with (Sickleflow stock) it would not close. Every other top case clip engaged except for the two around that fan. It bulges out a lot. I pushed down on it pretty hard to the point where I probably shouldn’t have pushed any more and it still would not seat. Even in the non locked position the top fan will not turn either. I suspect manufacturing variance may be at play here. Thank you for the data point that will encourage some to try. For some it might work and for some it won’t. What I am certain of is that on a Strix board it will fit a top fan over it. It isn’t the end of the world though. When testing the ID Cooling cooler today with and without fan, the delta was exactly one degree.
You have no idea how happy it makes me finding out Cooler Master is recognizing you! Well deserved and I learned a lot for my upcoming build with the same case, motherboard but with a 3070 instead
Exactly the video i was looking for! Sometimes it feels like u are an undercover marketing agent for CM man, especially the nr200p. Best channel on yt for the nr200p by FAR!
i built my first pc last month, my hands were shaking as if i were performing surgery lol. But it was definitely dope to see everything power on and work as it should when all was said and done.
I completed my very first ever build last week with almost identical components, this would have saved me so much pain. Top quality content as always. I just didn't get what the red end of the fan splitter is, i just connected my two fans to the black ones.
My NR200 comes tomorrow and I feel I'm a lot more prepared for it. I've built lots of computers over the years but it is always good to learn before doing, especially the cable management in these SFF cases.
No particular reason- just what I had on hand. You do also want to pay attention to the latency on the RAM kit though, many 3600mhz kits are CL18 and that's a meager gain over 3200mhz CL16- there is a tiny benefit to the higher clock with the Infinity Fabric but the reality is tightening up memory timings and trying to push it a little harder will be much more meaningful than that particular difference.
38:10 I have never build a pc up until this point and I chose nr200... Don't ask me why :)) I was just wondering how bad is it that some cables rest on my GPU, it's a Palit rtx 3060 dual OC (it doesn't have a top fan)? I couldn't manage the cables that well and I think it kind of presses against the GPU, how bad is it for the GPU realistically? I also somehow have managed to cram in there an arctic freezer 280 II AIO... everything seems to be working just fine, it's just the thought of having something press against a GPU that kind of bothers me... Don't know who else to ask, you seem to know more than this case than anyone here on youtube.
I have been thinking about a build like this for a while now First thing in mind is that it would look much better with water cooled RGB CPU radiator, but there's no space in there for it, unless you mount the GPU vertically. But you can't do that with the newest GPU's, I think they would be to fat! Second thing, are 4 fans really enough for a 5600x and RTX 3080? Few fans makes me think that it's probably better to go with a regular sized cabinet instead... Still not sure which one I'm going to go for :/
So, why not use the Noctua NH-C14S CPU cooler you've raved so much about? Are you planning on using the glass side panel? Otherwise, clever cable management tricks (especially across the PSU fan!) - I'm building up something just like this over Thanksgiving, so thanks for the ideas.
This was specifically for the “P” version with TG panel. For users going with the vented panel then for sure, the C14S will be the best choice especially with the FE 30-series cards.
Hey big fan of your NR200 content. I have more or less the exact same build and spent today following along your video putting it all together. One thing I think you should have mentioned is that if your BIOS is not Zen 3 ready, you need to flashback the motherboard before you install the CPU and RAM. I had to redo the build for this step unfortunately. Otherwise, nice video!
Sorry if it wasn’t easy to find in the video! I will flag it in the timestamps so it’s easy for viewers to find that part. Did you do Q flash or go back to Zen 2/Zen+?
@@MachinesMore I'm upgrading from a much older PC so I had to Qflash. I have the same motherboard and it didn't work until I uninstalled the CPU and RAM (I believe that's the recommendation). I know you mentioned flashback at the beginning of the video but it wasn't clear that you had to do it with some of the wires plugged in but before CPU/RAM installation (at least on the Aorus B550i). If you did cover it, sorry ignore me! In the end no big deal, just trying to help the next person that follows your video along.
I gotta say, your channel is freaking amazing. You cover those small details that nobody even cares about. For instance, you mentioned why one of the fan cables is colored vs. the other 2 not colored. I've been looking to find answer for that but nobody talk about it. This is beyond helpful.
Hi, just wondering how much space is between the GPU and the bottom fans? Would a slightly thicker card fit as lots of the AIB cards are hovering around 2.2-3 slots. Thanks!
If I use an Aorus X570 I (which I believe has the same CPU position with that B550 board) and a NH-U12A cooler, will I be able to fit a 25mm thick exhaust fan on top?
Really curious what would happen if you subbed the Scythe Big Shuriken 3 and a side fan (like you did here ruclips.net/video/1dlwehgemOE/видео.html) for the Mugen 5. Putting together a build list from your links, love the video since this will be my first build also!
Hi love your content! I’ve just started getting into PC gaming and specifically ITX builds on the last year or so and I have an Honest question for you, your setup always looks so clean and mint. You seem like a bit of a perfectionist which I can relate too. While working on your PC builds do you ever scratch or dent and pc parts like the motherboard or case?
Hi sir first of all thank you so much for helping us out with nr 200.. I have seen all of your videos on nr200.. You have recommended going with nh c14s . I have nr200p.. c14s is double the price of nh l12s in my country.. Can i go with nh u9s chromax? it has better nspr than nh l12s .. which performed really well in nr200.. due to slightly bigger weight and better nspr .. do you think nh u9s chromax will beat nh l12s in nr 200?
About to build my first pc with a nr200 with almost the same parts besides the cpu and gpu. So glad I seen this so I can follow along when my case arrives this Monday. Thank you so much and i subscribed!!
Yes! I wanted to give a safe recommendation for builders considering this case, especially first time builders. While the U12A performs well in the case, some may be uncomfortable having to use the screw to hold the panel in, there’s might be manufacturing tolerances that make it not work at all. The Mugen 5 is something I feel comfortable recommending with the TG panel and for 5600X or 3600/X you don’t need anything too fancy.
@@MachinesMore Thank you so much dude. I've been buying my parts this week during black friday but I haven't decided on the cooler yet. I've been re-watching all your air cooler nr200 videos and still haven't decide ahah. Thanks for this comment, now it's time to look for affordable Sythes on my country 😅
I did a nr200 4k gaming machine Asrock b550 phantom itx Cooler master nr200 Ryzen 9 5900x Scythe fuma rev. 2 Aorus master 6800xt boosted to 2650mhz 64gb of 3200mhz ddr4 Cooler master sfx 850w Corsair 1tb ssd + 512gb ssd and 120gb boot drive. I run a msi 32in 1440p 165hz and get around 200fps in warzone in 1440p I also have a LG 27in 4k 60hz and I get around 120ish fps on it using scythe 2000rpm fans on the cooler and two top cooler master sycil flow fans. It’s nice and portable for work too
I see your previous videos saying that C14S may be better with a high power GPU. With real 3080s in testing, do you think C14S or U12A is better? For FE and non-FE (standard 3 fans version), are there any difference in cooling optimizations? Thank you very much.
Yes, a BIOS update is critical for board purchases now. Soon they will be shipping with the new BIOS but until you get certification from the manufacturer you will need to update it. Otherwise I don’t think your system will boot. PCIE 4.0 for the GPU. You will have to downgrade if using the riser since it’s a 3.0 riser. Even leaving the board on auto could cause conflicts.
How thick is the GPU and how tall is the CPU cooler? I've got a ROG 1070 and a Be Quiet TF2 which I intend to build in the NR200P along with a 16TB Ironwolf drive, likely adding another down the line. But I am worried about clearance and airflow, spec wise it says it all fits but not sure about horizontal GPU and 2x 120 fans in bottom. Do you think I would need slimmer fans than 2,5cm standard? And would fans fit the side railing with a 135mm tall top flow cooler? Might have to try it out myself but worth asking someone who already did. Great video, thanks!
I have the X570SI version of this motherboard... I'm wondering if a Deepcool AK400 will fit with the fan facing the rear as an intake? Worried the chonky VRM heatsink/rear IO shroud will get in the way. Saw someone had issues fitting it with a ROG Strix B550 mobo :/
im thinking of getting this case,, same MB and CPU, but i'm going gigabyte geforce rtx 3060 ti aorus xtreme (60mm thick to your 40mm FE) for GPU and wanna put slim fans (15mm) under it too, would they fit?
Late to the party I know ,but I've just ordered this case and hopefully doing the same build ,Less the expensive graphics card 😅, probably go with gigabyte 3070,doing a black amd white build ,great video and as always very in depth ,well done
Is this cpu cooler a good match for an i7 11700k? I will use 2 fans that have rgb for better peformence. And is 750w platinum sfx psu good for an 3089ti and i7 11700k? Or do I need to downgrade the specs?
Another great video as always. Basically the same build I settled on, but with the C14S for the mesh panel NR200. Now to find actually find a graphics card...
The Mugen 5 is too big to fit. Two are better but, it’s not a huge issue as long as you have at least the right top exhaust, that’s the important one. There are two intakes so it’s slightly positive pressure with the TG panel, so air will passively exit over the cooler’s open space. The fan over the cooler would be seriously obstructed anyway.
Great video, thank you! I've been agonizing over this case, however I've picked up an Aorus Xtreme 3080, and am not sure whether it will fit into this case. Any chance you could possibly do a build with one of these larger cards? Or would you recommend a mid tower size for this card? (This is my first build in about 7 years, sorry for the stupid questions!)
Hello, I love these videos since I plan to build the same PC, but my question is, if the second fan that goes on top of the heatsink would fit the same one, Cooler Master Masterfan Halo 120 with a Master Hyper 212 Black RGB without any type of problem that would be my doubt and I would like to know if it would be possible to use the two fans in the upper part with the Master Hyper 212 Black RGB, thank you very much for the attention
New builder in ITX form factor, can't wait to start the build in this case but also a bit nervous. The GPU I will be using is the RX6800, and air cooling.
I don’t understand how your PSU cables are not hitting the fan of the video card. I have a 3080ti Founders Edition squeezed into this case and I literally had to zip tie them so tight that they’re probably damaged so they don’t hit the fan of the card. The only way I get proper clearance is when I move my SFX PS into the SFXL slot but then 40 percent of the fan is covered.
tbh, not a fan of the cable management in this video. I can't rest with cables over PSU fan or otherwise routed that doesn't promote maximum airflow. Gotta have my cable management looking clean as possible. There's more than one way to do it; I decided to mount the mobo, then the PSU, then do the cables.
Hey, loving the level of detail provided by this channel, really great work. What is the max thickness of the GPU u can use while still using slimmest fans as intake on the bottom?
You have about 72-75mm of space- so absolute max is about 55-57mm of card (not all slim fans are 15mm exact) but that’s not necessarily optimal since you may want a small gap between them.
Thinking about doing this exact build (with my temporary gpu of course 😅). I really hate my current mid tower, I even got a bigger desk but still hate how much space tower takes up. This looks like the perfect size, smaller but not too small where it becomes compromising in function. I just need to look for a PSU that doesn't cost $300 lol. I really appreciate this video, I'll be able to follow it exactly when the time comes.
My corsair mini psu came with the worst, stiffest cables known to man kind, and it is really making cable management a complete nightmare. Replacing these cables will cost me quite a bit sadly :(
Built almost the exact same system based on your video yesterday. You pointed me in the correct direction for parts and it helped having a clean build a lot! Thanks!
Thank you for the full detailed build guide. Will be watching this video over and over again. Especially when i will be able to get a hold on a ryzen 5900x and rtx 3070 in the coming months
I have been wanting to put my psu in the sfx position and run a long gpu as well as have access to the top fan moun. I've been, and i have the exact same. I wasn't sue if i can run cable behind the motherboard tray
Hi! I recently purchased the x570 crosshair impact mobo and ryzen 9 5900x. This will be my first build, so I have to do bios flashback. I've seen from known reviewer that jumping straight to the latest version update of the board affects performance (not an asus board though), and maybe it should have been done in a series of updates in order. My mobo version is 1001 based on its manufacturing date. what do you think or would I do? 1) Should I start flashing the updates one after the other, from version 1105 until I reach v3003? 2) Or could I start from v2206 until v3003? 3) Or could I flash v3003 right away? If ever I should do either 1 or 2, I have the option to use EZ flash after flashing v2206, right? Tried to ask asus but haven't receive a reply still. I may appear stupid with these questions, but I hope interesting enough for others. Thanks. Thank you very much.
I just built in this case but have a triple slot 5700Xt Red Devil (for now) and no slim fans, using a Cryorig h7 Ultra I get 5900X temps of 83C while gaming, which is pretty toasty. Should I spend money on a new cooler or just upgrade my fans/buy a smaller gpu?
I assume you're using the tempered glass panel? How is your cooler fan oriented and where is it placed? How are your case fans oriented? The H7 wouldn't be the best fit for a higher TDP chip like the 5900X but it still uses a 120mm fan right. Last question- are you playing at 1080p, thus seeing higher CPU utilization, or is this 83 degrees at lower utilization?
Would love to know the temperatures and noise levels for the rig under different loads. I'm definitely considering doing a rig similar to this one. Well done.
Question how did you get your MB chipset PCH fans to run so quite and lower rpm I have a x570 I Asus the vrms are cool run at aroun 43c on benchmark but the chipset fan runs at 4500 -5000 rpm constantly just so you know I have both NVMe running a 970 ti and x5950 default every is the same as your air cool video fan wise case and CPU
I'm building a pretty similar build but with a little more economical RTX 3060 Ti Ventus 3X. I'm putting a pair of Arctic P12's on the top, but should I use the included Sickleflows under the gpu or does that matter?
Since it's the 3X, it won't necessarily help with thermals but what bottom fans would definitely help with is allow you to get away with low GPU fan speeds so it might practically be silent. You have them already so you might as well try it out, I think. I'd go P12s on bottom and Sickleflows up top, but that's just a minor difference.
Hi I would like to ask, if I have 2 top A12x25 pwm and 2 bottom A12x15 pwm but I only have 1 fan plug. Can I use 3 Y cable connect them all? Or would it better if I use the case 1 to 3 cable with a Y cable? I should ignore the aio-pump plug?
To go from one header to four you will need one more splitter in addition to the 1-3 splitter to get to the fourth one. On some motherboards the AIO header can also be repurposed as a PWM header, so that could work too, you could also connect the fourth fan to that header, setup the curves for it however you want.
really cool but for 4k its not enough. There is just not a gpu rdy for 4k. We need 144fps for smooth gaming with a 144hz mointor. Otherwise its just limiting. XD
Just completed my first build with your help through this video: NR200P B550I ProAX 5900x 64gb (2x32gb DIMMS) Vengence 3200mhz RTX 3080 Ultra FTW 2TB PCIE 4.0 NVMe 1TB 3.0 NVMe Corsair SF750 PSU
Not sure if you’ll respond to this since I’m sure you are busy.. but I followed your build on Reddit with the 5” LCD screen included..but ran in to a problem. With the screen plugged in to the USB header.. the screen never turns off.. even with the computer powered down. Is there anyway to work around that and turn the screen off without opening the case and unplugging it every time. Thank you for everything.
Are you using the Gigabyte B550 I? I am thinking just turn off standby power- turn the ERP setting on. On some boards you may have to disable fast startup but I’d try that setting first.
Not sure it's relevant but it would be good to do a video on undervolting the RTX 3080 and the impact that has on GPU temps and CPU temps and overall noise. I have an NR200 with a Scythe FUMA 2 and undervolting the GPU reduced temps by 5 degrees, noise by ~3-4dB and CPU temps by ~4 degrees. The kicker is it reduced power consumption by ~80W and allowed for a slight OC that increased performance by ~ 3%.
Regarding the Mugen 5 and the fan set to rear intake (pulling air through the heatsink), do you think it's beneficial to fit another fan on the rear as intake (would a 15mm or 25mm 120 fan fit?)? Or it won't add too much benefit and/or impede airflow?
Hey thanks for all the great nr 200 testing I practically have this 5950 , Asus Rog x570 - i 3080 FE, noctua NU12 CPU , 2 X noctua A12 25 bottom intake , 2x top slim noctua 120 mm. Every thing is clean like yours plenty of space getting great temps on CPU/GPU stock 72/75 max memory temp on FE 94 max. But VRM internal sensor goes high on 80/84c onHW info during full stress test or 4 gaming for a few hrs the other board sensors don't break 65 -70 ect.. including temp 9 which I think is VRM temp problem is internal sensor drives my chipset set fan to crazy high speed. My question is did you have issues with high VRM in this case and any ideas how to bring them down ??
Just found this video, you must have built this the same time I built in a NR200. I used an Aorus Ultra z490i, 10600K (OC'd to 5.0ghz), nzxt kraken x53, team xtreem argb ram 3600mhz cas14, I replaced cooler master fans with 2 noctua's. 3080 is on the way, for now there's a 2070 placeholder. Really happy with how this build turned out, even with cpu overclocked, it never goes over 70 degrees. Can't wait for the 3080 to get here.
Love my temps 5600x B550i Aorus & TUF 3080, C14s with A1225 + A1225 Side intake, A1225 Top exhaust & 2 x A1215 bottom. CPU 4.5ghz 1.2v never exceed 65c (ambient 28c) GPU 69c. Thanks to your Aircool review video!
I discovered your channel only after I bought my NR200 and love your content. I run a Gigabyte Aorus ITX board, Ryzen 5900x, and Radeon 6700XT in my case. All is super tight with two SSDs, one 3.5 HDD, a Noctua NH-U12A, and four case fans.
Some of you have inquired regarding the lack of a fan over the top of the Mugen 5. This is a physical limitation of the Aorus board's CPU socket placement and the Mugen's cooler width. A slim fan will fit, you can mount it with screws after removing the mesh panel, or use what are called clevis pins to replace the tool-less hardware. I don't expect that the fan directly overhead for the 30-series FE setup is imperative, although I think it would be marginally helpful. This may be a topic of a quick future video but in general you're already getting some passive airflow exiting overhead the cooler since with the tempered glass panel and a cooler in rear intake this setup runs slightly net positive pressure. The right top fan does most of the heavy lifting because 1) it's mostly unimpeded, 2) it's directly overhead the GPU exhaust and adjacent to the exhaust of the CPU cooler. The air coming out of that fan is a great hand warmer. I will test this more in depth. The real key here is that there are two at the bottom and one on the top right to create the bottom to top vertical airflow.
Found the clevis pins as well when researching this topic earlier today. Someone has also made a 3d printer file on thingyverse for shorter versions of the standard CM pegs. I just so happen to have a 3d printer :)
This is simply false. I have the same case, cooler and motherboard and a fan fits perfectly fine over the Mugen 5. You have to bend the top cooler fan clip a bit, but a 25mm thick fan fits. There's also enough space for a 90x14mm fan at the rear for some rear exhaust. You don't want to have the rear as intake because it's unfiltered. If the case needs more air it can pull it through the motherboard side.
Good to know! I recall the fan clips were the source of the interference.
@@MachinesMore Just take some pliers and bend the middle pull tab thing almost straight. Leave just enough bend to be able to hook the rest of the clip onto the cooler fins and you're good to go.
I just tried this again and pre-bent the clip so it’s flush to the heatsink. Unfortunately with the fan I just tested with (Sickleflow stock) it would not close. Every other top case clip engaged except for the two around that fan. It bulges out a lot. I pushed down on it pretty hard to the point where I probably shouldn’t have pushed any more and it still would not seat. Even in the non locked position the top fan will not turn either. I suspect manufacturing variance may be at play here. Thank you for the data point that will encourage some to try. For some it might work and for some it won’t. What I am certain of is that on a Strix board it will fit a top fan over it. It isn’t the end of the world though. When testing the ID Cooling cooler today with and without fan, the delta was exactly one degree.
You have no idea how happy it makes me finding out Cooler Master is recognizing you! Well deserved and I learned a lot for my upcoming build with the same case, motherboard but with a 3070 instead
Thank you! Yes, 3070 is a great alternative. Good luck building! Will be taking a detailed look at 3080 vs 3070 very very soon.
Exactly the video i was looking for!
Sometimes it feels like u are an undercover marketing agent for CM man, especially the nr200p. Best channel on yt for the nr200p by FAR!
This channel is really underrated, it gives so much information and little tips, but as they say, "the more you know the better".
Couldn't agree more, excellent information
i agree
Dude you're crazy, best newcomer hardware channel 2020 goes to you for sure!
Agree, love how in depth he goes. Hopefully he gets more sponsorships so he it can put said products through the paces.
8:12 OMG lmaoooo i absolutely did not figure that out
SO excited to try this build. I've never built a computer before... so it's gonna be quite interesting! :)
i built my first pc last month, my hands were shaking as if i were performing surgery lol. But it was definitely dope to see everything power on and work as it should when all was said and done.
Sweet! Happy building- check back in whenever if you hit a snag!
@@MachinesMore Okay, thanks! Hopefully everything goes well... I don’t really know much about building PCs.
@@guitarshredder920 Oh yeah, it’s gonna be awesome!!!
You’ll be a pro in no time.
Waiting for Thermals videos on this~
and fps in native 4k
You are the go to for all NR200 things lol.
We call him NR-Master :)
Actually planning on building my first computer in the NR200, so THANK you for the very detailed video!
Good for you! Check in anytime if you hit a snag.
I completed my very first ever build last week with almost identical components, this would have saved me so much pain. Top quality content as always. I just didn't get what the red end of the fan splitter is, i just connected my two fans to the black ones.
Is it possible to add a A12x15 slim fan on the back of mugen 5? Will it benefits?
My NR200 comes tomorrow and I feel I'm a lot more prepared for it. I've built lots of computers over the years but it is always good to learn before doing, especially the cable management in these SFF cases.
That is a great attitude. Best of luck!
Is there a reason why you didn't go with 3600mhz ram? I think I saw AMD mention that it scales better with the 5600 CPUs. Thanks for the inspiration!
No particular reason- just what I had on hand. You do also want to pay attention to the latency on the RAM kit though, many 3600mhz kits are CL18 and that's a meager gain over 3200mhz CL16- there is a tiny benefit to the higher clock with the Infinity Fabric but the reality is tightening up memory timings and trying to push it a little harder will be much more meaningful than that particular difference.
38:10 I have never build a pc up until this point and I chose nr200... Don't ask me why :)) I was just wondering how bad is it that some cables rest on my GPU, it's a Palit rtx 3060 dual OC (it doesn't have a top fan)? I couldn't manage the cables that well and I think it kind of presses against the GPU, how bad is it for the GPU realistically? I also somehow have managed to cram in there an arctic freezer 280 II AIO... everything seems to be working just fine, it's just the thought of having something press against a GPU that kind of bothers me... Don't know who else to ask, you seem to know more than this case than anyone here on youtube.
I couldn't wait, I opened it up and fixed them.. ))
Well done with cable management, however for some reason seeing those cables in front of the psu fan made me want to fix them :)
It was entertaining to just watch you take apart the computer. Don't think I can even afford this though
I have been thinking about a build like this for a while now
First thing in mind is that it would look much better with water cooled RGB CPU radiator, but there's no space in there for it, unless you mount the GPU vertically. But you can't do that with the newest GPU's, I think they would be to fat!
Second thing, are 4 fans really enough for a 5600x and RTX 3080? Few fans makes me think that it's probably better to go with a regular sized cabinet instead... Still not sure which one I'm going to go for :/
So, why not use the Noctua NH-C14S CPU cooler you've raved so much about? Are you planning on using the glass side panel? Otherwise, clever cable management tricks (especially across the PSU fan!) - I'm building up something just like this over Thanksgiving, so thanks for the ideas.
This was specifically for the “P” version with TG panel. For users going with the vented panel then for sure, the C14S will be the best choice especially with the FE 30-series cards.
Awesome tutorial. I would love to see a version of this with an AIO and 2 top fans instead of 1. Great work!
I woke up just in time to watch this video. Let's go!
Another great video. dying to get my hands on a nr200. Gonna build almost the exact specs.
Hey big fan of your NR200 content. I have more or less the exact same build and spent today following along your video putting it all together.
One thing I think you should have mentioned is that if your BIOS is not Zen 3 ready, you need to flashback the motherboard before you install the CPU and RAM. I had to redo the build for this step unfortunately. Otherwise, nice video!
Sorry if it wasn’t easy to find in the video! I will flag it in the timestamps so it’s easy for viewers to find that part. Did you do Q flash or go back to Zen 2/Zen+?
@@MachinesMore I'm upgrading from a much older PC so I had to Qflash. I have the same motherboard and it didn't work until I uninstalled the CPU and RAM (I believe that's the recommendation).
I know you mentioned flashback at the beginning of the video but it wasn't clear that you had to do it with some of the wires plugged in but before CPU/RAM installation (at least on the Aorus B550i). If you did cover it, sorry ignore me!
In the end no big deal, just trying to help the next person that follows your video along.
Can you fit in another 120mm at top?
I gotta say, your channel is freaking amazing. You cover those small details that nobody even cares about. For instance, you mentioned why one of the fan cables is colored vs. the other 2 not colored. I've been looking to find answer for that but nobody talk about it. This is beyond helpful.
Glad you found it helpful!
Hi, just wondering how much space is between the GPU and the bottom fans? Would a slightly thicker card fit as lots of the AIB cards are hovering around 2.2-3 slots.
Thanks!
If I use an Aorus X570 I (which I believe has the same CPU position with that B550 board) and a NH-U12A cooler, will I be able to fit a 25mm thick exhaust fan on top?
Yes, it should. Make sure your cables don’t interfere. The air cooling testing for the vented panel case was generally setup that way.
@@MachinesMore thank you for always replying to our queries :)
This would be a sweet PC if it was at all possible to get the parts you used. -_-
Really curious what would happen if you subbed the Scythe Big Shuriken 3 and a side fan (like you did here ruclips.net/video/1dlwehgemOE/видео.html) for the Mugen 5. Putting together a build list from your links, love the video since this will be my first build also!
Hi love your content! I’ve just started getting into PC gaming and specifically ITX builds on the last year or so and I have an Honest question for you, your setup always looks so clean and mint. You seem like a bit of a perfectionist which I can relate too. While working on your PC builds do you ever scratch or dent and pc parts like the motherboard or case?
What micro screwdriver set do you use and do you recommend them? Thanks!
Hi sir first of all thank you so much for helping us out with nr 200.. I have seen all of your videos on nr200.. You have recommended going with nh c14s . I have nr200p.. c14s is double the price of nh l12s in my country.. Can i go with nh u9s chromax? it has better nspr than nh l12s .. which performed really well in nr200.. due to slightly bigger weight and better nspr .. do you think nh u9s chromax will beat nh l12s in nr 200?
Appreciate the cable routing guide. Love the build process video.
You bet!
About to build my first pc with a nr200 with almost the same parts besides the cpu and gpu. So glad I seen this so I can follow along when my case arrives this Monday. Thank you so much and i subscribed!!
Thanks for all the NR200 content. I've been using laptops for the past 10 years and picked this case for my return to custom buids, very informative.
Hi! After all those Noctua videos is there any reason you went with the Scythe Mugen 5?
Yes! I wanted to give a safe recommendation for builders considering this case, especially first time builders. While the U12A performs well in the case, some may be uncomfortable having to use the screw to hold the panel in, there’s might be manufacturing tolerances that make it not work at all. The Mugen 5 is something I feel comfortable recommending with the TG panel and for 5600X or 3600/X you don’t need anything too fancy.
@@MachinesMore Thank you so much dude. I've been buying my parts this week during black friday but I haven't decided on the cooler yet. I've been re-watching all your air cooler nr200 videos and still haven't decide ahah. Thanks for this comment, now it's time to look for affordable Sythes on my country 😅
I did a nr200 4k gaming machine
Asrock b550 phantom itx
Cooler master nr200
Ryzen 9 5900x
Scythe fuma rev. 2
Aorus master 6800xt boosted to 2650mhz
64gb of 3200mhz ddr4
Cooler master sfx 850w
Corsair 1tb ssd + 512gb ssd and 120gb boot drive.
I run a msi 32in 1440p 165hz and get around 200fps in warzone in 1440p I also have a LG 27in 4k 60hz and I get around 120ish fps on it using scythe 2000rpm fans on the cooler and two top cooler master sycil flow fans. It’s nice and portable for work too
I see your previous videos saying that C14S may be better with a high power GPU. With real 3080s in testing, do you think C14S or U12A is better? For FE and non-FE (standard 3 fans version), are there any difference in cooling optimizations? Thank you very much.
Great video. Btw, have you updated the bios in order to channel rz 5600x?
And is the GPU running as Pcie 4.0 or 3.0?
Yes, a BIOS update is critical for board purchases now. Soon they will be shipping with the new BIOS but until you get certification from the manufacturer you will need to update it. Otherwise I don’t think your system will boot. PCIE 4.0 for the GPU. You will have to downgrade if using the riser since it’s a 3.0 riser. Even leaving the board on auto could cause conflicts.
How thick is the GPU and how tall is the CPU cooler? I've got a ROG 1070 and a Be Quiet TF2 which I intend to build in the NR200P along with a 16TB Ironwolf drive, likely adding another down the line. But I am worried about clearance and airflow, spec wise it says it all fits but not sure about horizontal GPU and 2x 120 fans in bottom. Do you think I would need slimmer fans than 2,5cm standard? And would fans fit the side railing with a 135mm tall top flow cooler? Might have to try it out myself but worth asking someone who already did. Great video, thanks!
I have the X570SI version of this motherboard... I'm wondering if a Deepcool AK400 will fit with the fan facing the rear as an intake? Worried the chonky VRM heatsink/rear IO shroud will get in the way. Saw someone had issues fitting it with a ROG Strix B550 mobo :/
Great video. Are the bottom fans intake or out flow? Is the top fan intake or outflow? Thanks!
Bottom should always be intake if you're using the typical air cooled graphics card. Top should match that direction and exhaust.
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im thinking of getting this case,, same MB and CPU, but i'm going gigabyte geforce rtx 3060 ti aorus xtreme (60mm thick to your 40mm FE) for GPU and wanna put slim fans (15mm) under it too, would they fit?
Bro i got the same build but can the NR200P/Aorus mobo/Mugen 5 fit a SLIM INTAKE FAN from NOCTUA?
Late to the party I know ,but I've just ordered this case and hopefully doing the same build ,Less the expensive graphics card 😅, probably go with gigabyte 3070,doing a black amd white build ,great video and as always very in depth ,well done
Is this cpu cooler a good match for an i7 11700k? I will use 2 fans that have rgb for better peformence. And is 750w platinum sfx psu good for an 3089ti and i7 11700k? Or do I need to downgrade the specs?
Another great video as always. Basically the same build I settled on, but with the C14S for the mesh panel NR200. Now to find actually find a graphics card...
Nice build and well thought airflow. Why didn't you add an additional fan on cpu cooler?
The Mugen 5 is too big to fit. Two are better but, it’s not a huge issue as long as you have at least the right top exhaust, that’s the important one. There are two intakes so it’s slightly positive pressure with the TG panel, so air will passively exit over the cooler’s open space. The fan over the cooler would be seriously obstructed anyway.
Great video, thank you! I've been agonizing over this case, however I've picked up an Aorus Xtreme 3080, and am not sure whether it will fit into this case. Any chance you could possibly do a build with one of these larger cards? Or would you recommend a mid tower size for this card? (This is my first build in about 7 years, sorry for the stupid questions!)
Hello, I love these videos since I plan to build the same PC, but my question is, if the second fan that goes on top of the heatsink would fit the same one, Cooler Master Masterfan Halo 120 with a Master Hyper 212 Black RGB without any type of problem that would be my doubt and I would like to know if it would be possible to use the two fans in the upper part with the Master Hyper 212 Black RGB, thank you very much for the attention
Also everyone Etsy shops have mods just search nr200 and they have different feet for a bracket for atx psu a bracket for top mounted 240-280mm aio
New builder in ITX form factor, can't wait to start the build in this case but also a bit nervous. The GPU I will be using is the RX6800, and air cooling.
I don’t understand how your PSU cables are not hitting the fan of the video card. I have a 3080ti Founders Edition squeezed into this case and I literally had to zip tie them so tight that they’re probably damaged so they don’t hit the fan of the card.
The only way I get proper clearance is when I move my SFX PS into the SFXL slot but then 40 percent of the fan is covered.
I'm planning to build a 5600g with no GPU in the NR200p, what would be the best fan setup using the mugen 5? I can put additional fans if needed.
Do you think an FSP Flexguru 500w can be mounted on this case? I'm just curious.
What are the temps like whilst using temp panel with air cooler
All my parts for my NR200P build have finally arrived, just in time for this excellent guide. Much appreciated!!
Go get 'em!
Thanks so much for this video, I've never built a computer before and i used this video step by step to build my new nr200p and it was perfect!
THIS VIDEO IS AMAZING AND I JUST WATCHED IT 100 TIMES OR MORE TO DO THE EXACT SAME BUILD - THANK YOU SO SOOOO SOSOOS MUCH!
11:53 I have the same MB and can tell you to throw that piece of metal in the garbage, because is making the SSD Cooling worse, keep up the good work
tbh, not a fan of the cable management in this video. I can't rest with cables over PSU fan or otherwise routed that doesn't promote maximum airflow. Gotta have my cable management looking clean as possible. There's more than one way to do it; I decided to mount the mobo, then the PSU, then do the cables.
Hey, loving the level of detail provided by this channel, really great work. What is the max thickness of the GPU u can use while still using slimmest fans as intake on the bottom?
You have about 72-75mm of space- so absolute max is about 55-57mm of card (not all slim fans are 15mm exact) but that’s not necessarily optimal since you may want a small gap between them.
Awesome video. This is almost exactly the same build I’m putting together! Very helpful
Thinking about doing this exact build (with my temporary gpu of course 😅). I really hate my current mid tower, I even got a bigger desk but still hate how much space tower takes up. This looks like the perfect size, smaller but not too small where it becomes compromising in function. I just need to look for a PSU that doesn't cost $300 lol.
I really appreciate this video, I'll be able to follow it exactly when the time comes.
Enjoy and I am sure you will love the case.
My corsair mini psu came with the worst, stiffest cables known to man kind, and it is really making cable management a complete nightmare. Replacing these cables will cost me quite a bit sadly :(
Built almost the exact same system based on your video yesterday. You pointed me in the correct direction for parts and it helped having a clean build a lot! Thanks!
Thank you for the full detailed build guide.
Will be watching this video over and over again. Especially when i will be able to get a hold on a ryzen 5900x and rtx 3070 in the coming months
I have been wanting to put my psu in the sfx position and run a long gpu as well as have access to the top fan moun. I've been, and i have the exact same. I wasn't sue if i can run cable behind the motherboard tray
Very helpful I plan on building in this case
Building this right now, how did you get a top 120mm exhaust fan over the psu AC in?
This is the video I’m gonna base my entire first build on thank you so much
what are my options for a 2nd (push fan) behind the cooler tower for a push-pull config?
Thank you sir I needed this 🙏
I’m real big on temp on my pc and this is it for me
Cable management and all keep going I subscribed
I'm planning to build my first pc since 15 years thanks to your channel
There you go! Awesome!
I would put this CPU fan on the other side so to be sure it will take cold air from the outside and not hot one from a GPU.
Great build.
Haha I did almost the exact same build.
NR200P Black
Phantom Gaming 4 B550 ITX
5600X
3060ti
Sycthe Fuma 2
16gb HyperX Rgb ram 3200mhz
650W gm EVGA
Your Fuma 2 fits well? This is what I’ll be building with this weekend.
This guys should watch the Verge and learn how to build a pc properly.
I’m putting together my first build in the Nr200 and this will make a great guide!
Have fun!
Hi!
I recently purchased the x570 crosshair impact mobo and ryzen 9 5900x. This will be my first build, so I have to do bios flashback.
I've seen from known reviewer that jumping straight to the latest version update of the board affects performance (not an asus board though), and maybe it should have been done in a series of updates in order.
My mobo version is 1001 based on its manufacturing date. what do you think or would I do?
1) Should I start flashing the updates one after the other, from version 1105 until I reach v3003?
2) Or could I start from v2206 until v3003?
3) Or could I flash v3003 right away?
If ever I should do either 1 or 2, I have the option to use EZ flash after flashing v2206, right?
Tried to ask asus but haven't receive a reply still.
I may appear stupid with these questions, but I hope interesting enough for others.
Thanks.
Thank you very much.
I just built in this case but have a triple slot 5700Xt Red Devil (for now) and no slim fans, using a Cryorig h7 Ultra I get 5900X temps of 83C while gaming, which is pretty toasty. Should I spend money on a new cooler or just upgrade my fans/buy a smaller gpu?
I assume you're using the tempered glass panel? How is your cooler fan oriented and where is it placed? How are your case fans oriented? The H7 wouldn't be the best fit for a higher TDP chip like the 5900X but it still uses a 120mm fan right. Last question- are you playing at 1080p, thus seeing higher CPU utilization, or is this 83 degrees at lower utilization?
Thank you for this video. It help alot as a first time builder!
Thank you very much 👍 is it normal practice to leave the paper sticker on ssd under a heatsink?
Nice video 👍
Would love to know the temperatures and noise levels for the rig under different loads.
I'm definitely considering doing a rig similar to this one. Well done.
He's somewhat done some already, you'll want to check out his prior videos. Really insightful data on layout, temps, and etc.
Thanks- indeed if you check out the tower cooler round up for Ryzen 5 this was the system used. Will try to get some GPU benchmarks in shortly.
Question how did you get your MB chipset PCH fans to run so quite and lower rpm I have a x570 I Asus the vrms are cool run at aroun 43c on benchmark but the chipset fan runs at 4500 -5000 rpm constantly just so you know I have both NVMe running a 970 ti and x5950 default every is the same as your air cool video fan wise case and CPU
You should be able to adjust the PCH fan in BIOS from what I recall. For the B550-I it's all passively cooled, which is why I really like that board.
I'm building a pretty similar build but with a little more economical RTX 3060 Ti Ventus 3X. I'm putting a pair of Arctic P12's on the top, but should I use the included Sickleflows under the gpu or does that matter?
Since it's the 3X, it won't necessarily help with thermals but what bottom fans would definitely help with is allow you to get away with low GPU fan speeds so it might practically be silent. You have them already so you might as well try it out, I think. I'd go P12s on bottom and Sickleflows up top, but that's just a minor difference.
Hi I would like to ask, if I have 2 top A12x25 pwm and 2 bottom A12x15 pwm but I only have 1 fan plug. Can I use 3 Y cable connect them all? Or would it better if I use the case 1 to 3 cable with a Y cable? I should ignore the aio-pump plug?
To go from one header to four you will need one more splitter in addition to the 1-3 splitter to get to the fourth one. On some motherboards the AIO header can also be repurposed as a PWM header, so that could work too, you could also connect the fourth fan to that header, setup the curves for it however you want.
why was it so hard to find this video fuk X_X best nr200 install vid no doubt
really cool but for 4k its not enough. There is just not a gpu rdy for 4k. We need 144fps for smooth gaming with a 144hz mointor. Otherwise its just limiting. XD
Haha, we will do what we can until then!
How many fans can you place at the bottom ?
I have the 3 slot GPU card.
I need 2x Noctua NF-A 12x15 right ??
Depends on how thick your card is. If it’s 55mm and under you should be able to fit two slim 120s underneath.
Just completed my first build with your help through this video:
NR200P
B550I ProAX
5900x
64gb (2x32gb DIMMS) Vengence 3200mhz
RTX 3080 Ultra FTW
2TB PCIE 4.0 NVMe
1TB 3.0 NVMe
Corsair SF750 PSU
Not sure if you’ll respond to this since I’m sure you are busy.. but I followed your build on Reddit with the 5” LCD screen included..but ran in to a problem. With the screen plugged in to the USB header.. the screen never turns off.. even with the computer powered down. Is there anyway to work around that and turn the screen off without opening the case and unplugging it every time. Thank you for everything.
Are you using the Gigabyte B550 I? I am thinking just turn off standby power- turn the ERP setting on. On some boards you may have to disable fast startup but I’d try that setting first.
your channel inspire me to build my first SFX I never imagined we would get this much. I'm starting my build next week.
Congrats and have fun with the new build!
Is push/pull possible with mugen 5 and this case? I'm contemplating it with se224xt(since this cooler is possible with push/pull with this case).
Yes, you will have to flip the cooler and RAM will be partially covered but otherwise should work as long as the RAM isn’t too tall.
Not sure it's relevant but it would be good to do a video on undervolting the RTX 3080 and the impact that has on GPU temps and CPU temps and overall noise. I have an NR200 with a Scythe FUMA 2 and undervolting the GPU reduced temps by 5 degrees, noise by ~3-4dB and CPU temps by ~4 degrees.
The kicker is it reduced power consumption by ~80W and allowed for a slight OC that increased performance by ~ 3%.
Regarding the Mugen 5 and the fan set to rear intake (pulling air through the heatsink), do you think it's beneficial to fit another fan on the rear as intake (would a 15mm or 25mm 120 fan fit?)? Or it won't add too much benefit and/or impede airflow?
it doesnt really improve airflow. 2 top exhaust is already enough. Especially if you have a cpu cooler that pushes air to the rear
Hey thanks for all the great nr 200 testing I practically have this 5950 , Asus Rog x570 - i 3080 FE, noctua NU12 CPU , 2 X noctua A12 25 bottom intake , 2x top slim noctua 120 mm. Every thing is clean like yours plenty of space getting great temps on CPU/GPU stock 72/75 max memory temp on FE 94 max. But VRM internal sensor goes high on 80/84c onHW info during full stress test or 4 gaming for a few hrs the other board sensors don't break 65 -70 ect.. including temp 9 which I think is VRM temp problem is internal sensor drives my chipset set fan to crazy high speed. My question is did you have issues with high VRM in this case and any ideas how to bring them down ??
Just found this video, you must have built this the same time I built in a NR200. I used an Aorus Ultra z490i, 10600K (OC'd to 5.0ghz), nzxt kraken x53, team xtreem argb ram 3600mhz cas14, I replaced cooler master fans with 2 noctua's. 3080 is on the way, for now there's a 2070 placeholder. Really happy with how this build turned out, even with cpu overclocked, it never goes over 70 degrees. Can't wait for the 3080 to get here.
Love my temps 5600x B550i Aorus & TUF 3080, C14s with A1225 + A1225 Side intake, A1225 Top exhaust & 2 x A1215 bottom. CPU 4.5ghz 1.2v never exceed 65c (ambient 28c) GPU 69c. Thanks to your Aircool review video!
I discovered your channel only after I bought my NR200 and love your content.
I run a Gigabyte Aorus ITX board, Ryzen 5900x, and Radeon 6700XT in my case. All is super tight with two SSDs, one 3.5 HDD, a Noctua NH-U12A, and four case fans.