Josh Pate Previews CFB Championship Weekend + Joe Jon Finley & Seth Littrell Named OU Co-OC & Ws/Ls
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- Опубликовано: 28 ноя 2023
- Gabe Ikard and Teddy Lehman react to the news that Joe Jon Finley and Seth Littrell will be named co-offensive coordinators for Oklahoma and react to OU coming in at #12 in the CFP rankings (2:03). Josh Pate joins to preview Oregon vs Washington, Oklahoma State vs Texas, Georgia vs Alabama, Michigan vs Iowa and Louisville vs FSU (39:18). Teddy and Gabe give their “Winners/Losers of the Week:” Sean Lewis, Transfer portal, Bobby Petrino, Will Howard, OKC Thunder and Carolina Panthers (1:22:42).
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Texas fan here. Love the content you guys produce. Really good insight every week.
To me, Seth Littrell totally makes sense, with Joe Jon Finley getting valuable experience. I think this was part of the plan from the beginning. When BV came in, he hired a big group of coaches and analysts. It's my belief that he knew Jeff Lebby was going to be short term, and these other hires were replacements in waiting for departing coaches as time goes on... This allows for maximum continuity within the program. I am very pleased with the move. Only time will tell how well everything works out with this move, but that would be true of any replacement for Jeff Lebby.
Lol Makes sense because thats what you have been made to think.
You two guys deserve an absolute standing ovation. OUTSTANDING job re the OC hires, and I believe spot on!
Wow, Pate State in the house!!!! Damn y’all rock. OU’s #1 RUclips content hands down. Gotta throw SoonerScoop some love too ❤
I believe BV obviously knows far more about football than any OU fan out there. There is always going to be couch coaches that disagree with any hire or play call. With that said I appreciate you as former players in the media to help us understand the hiring process as you did in this video as well as the recruiting, play calling, etc... Unfortunately we all have to hear those that think they know more than everyone else. In BV we trust!! Keep up the great work Gabe & Teddy!!
Couldn’t have made a better decision for a OC. We have the best coaching staff in the Country period. Thanks
We totally needed Josh in an Oklahoma Breakdown or Touchdown Teddy t-shirt. You could have even gotten it in white for him.
Teddy spot on! Continuity is critical!
Late kick vibes with the Oklahoma breakdown. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Jackson Arnold's IG story posted the announcement and he added two happy faces. A lot of the players are posting about it and seem to be ecstatic. That's all that matters.
Was at the live show. Outstanding job gentlemen! Definitely would love to do it again!
Best podcast out here . Love you guys!! Such great points on the oc hire!! Love pate as well. Thanks guys!!
I believe in BV and Joe C to make good decisions to get the program where we want it to be.
The fans complaining about the OC move are the same fans that complain about everything.
Facts!
Exactly!!!
Seth is really big on pre snap fundamentals and OL fundamentals. Wants to give his QB's time to work. We need more TE/FBs to make this really shine but I think this is going to be great for Jackson Arnold.
Pretty crazy to see Seth Litrell vs Josh Heupel 2 captains of that National Championship team. Torrance Marshall should be in the house on that date. It be epic!
Teddy, your analogy of learning a new offense to learning a new language was so on point. Love your and Gabe’s analysis and insight.
Love the OC hires! Continuity and familiararity on every level including recruiting is of the utmost importance in our everyday inprovements and the move to the SEC.
Teddy’s “hm, well “ had me just like gabe 😂
Leach was the first OC for Stoops. Leach left after one year and Mangino, who was on the staff, became OC. Result the next year? National Championship. BV was an assistant on that staff and saw what can happen when you promote someone from within who is familiar with the playbook, the players, etc. Promoting Mangino wasn't exciting or flashy but it made sense. Hopefully this move will be successful as well.
Joe Jon Finley & Seth Littrell was a great move. I am looking forward to how they do. I am expecting very good things from them
I was like you guys wanting Seth Littrell. And Joe Joe Finely has been at Oklahoma for a while I'm Glad for those guys.
You guys are spot on about Ole Miss. Love Teddy's reply.
Onward Seth/Jo Jon!
In Venables I believe
In Joe C. I TRUST.
I couldn't be more excited about Seth Luttrell it's like watching my sooner life come full circle from when I first started watching the SOONERS till now!!!BOOMER baby
I have always loved the smash-mouth style football. Run and own the other team hitting them in the mouth over and over again. Eventually, that other team will break but does OU have the OL to do this? I loved what I saw out of Sawchuck but I want to see more. I think that kid is special and could be an absolute stud by the end.
Seth Litrell has always been a bad ass! He was like a 4 time state champ wrestler. I had the privalge to watch him when he was a Rougher and men he was a mad man!
Agree with everything you’ve said about the oc hiring OUr fans need to start understanding that BV has OUr best interest at heart he knows more football and more importantly knows more about what the program needs than we do
I trust BV 100%, I'm very excited for the "new" offense.
My two favorite RUclipsrs in the same house, hell Fn yeah! U boys rock! Keep up the great work.
Josh pate is awesome. Thanks Guys for having him
Isn't that the guy that thinks a&m is a better program than Oklahoma?
Love the hire these 2 have skin in the game and they know our history and what it means.
Woahhh ya'll got Pate on the Pod!? My favorite football commentators with my favorite non-OU commentator.
We are Pate State material.
I think it’s the best choice for every reason Teddy said. But I think it can be better, we can throw out what we didn’t like add some stuff we need (tight ends) and run the outside Zone running schemes too! I’m excited! And slow it down a bit!
You Damn Right, Seth Is A Bad Ass! Old School Tough! I have faith in BV, I think it was a wise move!
Both of you have made me feel much better about Littrell & Finley.
A fullback running a version of the air raid? Sign me up. Fullback U is back!
I agree with you Gabe, stability is so important
OK I haven’t heard are we sure Della Gabriel gone??
Best show in all of sports across all Media!! Appreciate y'all!!
Thanks for watching Tyler!
Happy to have Littrell and Joe Jon calling the plays. Boomer Sooner.
Another heady analysis and compelling rationale by Ted and Gabe! Way to set the stage going forward in fourth gear! I’m fired up 🔥
I just wanna see counters and traps again in our run game..
In BV we trust! L!!! He runs the team and will be known forever his success or failure. BV’s entire professional career has led here.
bv should have been coach of the year. Great hire with Seth and give Joe John experience. Every OC for Stoops era and beyond has or is HC. What makes you think Seth won't be in a couple years?
It’s a great hire!
I love these hire!! I am excited!!
Another Perfect Example of why THE OKLAHOMA BREAKDOWN with Gabe-raham & Big Teddy-Broosevelt!!! Are the one and only source for all the (pardon my brown-nose) absolute FACTS on OU Football!! The OU fans that call themselves College Football fans yet turn the channel soon as the Sooners are done! While we appreciate how the Lord has blessed you with the understanding that Oklahoma Football “invented it” and by “It” I mean CHAMPIONS!!! Don’t wrongfully label yourself a fan of college football because as the Bros had mentioned the only reason you’d be upset with the hiring of Littrell and Joe John is because when you were googling “best offensive coordinator for OU 2024” these 2 weren’t mentioned! Enough with this talk about Brendan Ludwig and Will Stein
Also, thank you for mentioning my tweet to Josh Pate. He was wrong and remains wrong. Josh completely misses the point that OU has facilities are just as good and will be better and that and Teddy does a great job of making my point that the administration hasn't changed and won't. OU is a better job than A&M.
I love Ted's honesty 😂😂 I don't think ol miss is better than Kansas
Great Inside hires!
You guys are the best. OC hires are a home run. We want Bama in the Fiesta bowl.
Gabe, couldn't agree more on the hires. We got some in the fanbase that haven't stopped whining since Rielly headed west.
Teddy is so right about the Transfer Portal.
Thanks!
The large majority of the fan base are thrilled about these hires.. BV and Joe C knew this was coming. Getting Seth Littrell hired as an analyst last year was brilliant. He got to know the offense, developed relationships with the players and coaches and was ready to roll when Lebby moved on either this year or next< This is MUCH better than bringing in a new guy with different terminology, maybe wanting to bring in his own guys....We can't afford the learning curve with SEC looming in September. Job well done BV and Joe C. Boomer!!
Legendary cross over
The best choice! Let’s Go!
How about the mens BB team being ranked in the top 25 for the first time in the Portal Moser's era.
So next year if we place 12th, we would be in the playoffs and Oklahoma State if they were 20 of next year they wouldn’t be in the playoffs
Can't wait until spring game 2024.
I love the hires. My next hope is Matt Wells becomes the QB coach and maybe passing game coordinator.
Honestly, I have heard very little negative reaction to the move to Seth and Joe Jon. Everybody who remembers the buzz around Seth from a few years back knows that he is the real deal. And Joe jons relationship with Jackson is well understood. Great, great move by BV
All I got to say if we still be living this time next year I want to remember this tape
they are good choices.
Leach = Mangino from within
Lebby= Finley/Littrell
Tech=Miss State
Bob Stoops always promoted OCs promoted from within?!
I do not understand the opposition to the Littrell hire. He has tons of experience running a pretty good offense at UNC and North Texas, will maintain continuity on the staff, and does not run the same exact offense has Lebby which means there will be some changes which I am looking forward too.
Most people love this hire. Always a group that hates on everything.
This is a good move with this OC’s. They’ve part of the program as player and coaches. They have more of a vested interest in the program’s success. We ought to get back to “Big Game Bob mentality” Haven’t been here for a while.
The way I understood it is they were looking at Ole Miss and Penn State had better losses instead of better wins and they were looking at better losses.
That right continuity is most important thing and both Joe Jon and Seth are Oklahoma players who have the program's interest at heart. Both have that old-school coaching discipline style. I think they both see how Lebby let his foot off the pedal after the Texas game. BOOMER SOONER 4 LIFE
OU fans said the same shit in 2011 when we hired Heupel instead of a big name. Let them be dumb. Seth and Joe Jon will have this shit going.
Seth litterel an jo Jon a great hire it will be awesome offense next an bowl game to watch
The problem from my inside sources told me after UNT let Seth go as head coach wasn’t to do with his coaching but a problem with upper administration not part of athletics
In your next podcast will you take some time and talk about your thought of Cuban selling thr Mavericks to a person from Las Vegas
Great decision on the hires. These guys bring the ability to add to a good system and make it a great system. I do hope it becomes a more complex offense with more groupings.
Side note: Seth ran for like a 500 yards and put up 60+ against my team (Union) in 95 in the Wing T offense…which apparently our defensive coordinator had never heard of until that night. Ouch
I love this move by BV. I think it would be cool too get a guy like Willy Korn to come in to be QB coach.
Love the hire, agree hopefully more position groups involved, TE especially. Think Seth will be a better play caller than Lebby, situationally. Thought Lebby got in his own way when we needed it most this season.
As long joe & seth don't do as much jet sweeps and sideline screens like Jeff lebby did a lot, then I'm good.
Most of them don’t really know enough to comment I ! Ikard
I just wanted see the GO go...I put no thought in to it
This was the right choice at OC...
Lazy hire? Huh. I actually think it works well. I love keeping guys that already have chemistry with the players. In this day and age with college football being 24/7, 365 days a year, having all those responsibilities shared allows these guys to have a life. And I love the idea that we are giving our own a chance at the next level. OU has always gambled on talent and moving them up. BV. Stoops. Riley. When you can recognize talent and give people the opportunity to excel with more, this is the greatest asset we have. Talent recognition!! Good job Coach Venables!! Congratulations Littrell and Joe Jon Finley (unable to say his name abbreviated - too much fun)!!! Let's keep the band together!!
For me it’s not about statistics. I’m happy that they hired within because they know what went right and went wrong. I think his history as a fullback will lead him to run more running plays, and will help with clock management. I am glad that we won’t be focused on tempo, but the actual skill level of the players. Trust the system and trust BV!
I was one of the skeptical ones. Thank you for your expert input and talking me off the ledge. You guys are the best in the business. Appreciate you!
Didn't know Josh Pate owned a black shirt😂
I guess Teddy has decided to retire the famous " Jabba amora hand gesture" . Lol. I always look forward to it. Great episode and interview. Boomer Sooner!!!!
Love the Latrell promotion but personally wanted to see Emmitt as the co coordinator.
Lets have a rematch in bowl game with osu fantasy football team and OU!
Watch the 1:15:00 min mark. And teddys response 3 min later is an all-timer. If pate had an editor, he’d say “Texas AM has more money than OU”. That is all he means but he can’t say it succinctly, so there you go.
I think OU made a great choice for OC. I live in Arkansas and they just rehired Bobby Patrino as OC, someone that they fired not to long ago. Be glad that you don't cheer for the Razorbacks.
Loyalty - The previous HC who also called plays (his name shall not be spoken or written) wasn't loyal to OU; Lebby has a connection to OU but probably was looking at this as a chance to get a head coaching job (i.e., he was using OU for his own benefit). I THINK these guys are and will be loyal to OU and aren't planning to leave in the near future.
Ole miss, mizzou, penn st all should be behind OU its crazy
Need to find a "Special" running back in the Portal.....
I think the cynics on this are simply the kind of people who were always going to be a cynic.
Lebby was taking OC interviews last year (Bama), so it's not a surprise that he left for whatever job. Also, your coordinators landing power 5 HC jobs is an indicator of success. BV brought in Littrell literally in preparation for this, so the "hiring within" concern some have aren't realizing that it's actually an external hire that was done a year ago in preparation for the inevitable. It turns out, Brent is playing chess while you're playing checkers.
About the concerns of "who is in charge" or "who will be calling plays." Do people not realize that, while Lebby was the OC, Bill B was the Co-OC the last two years? The titles are frequently a formality, and I am 100% positive that we will have a designated play-caller. You're a fool if you think it'll be a turn-taking approach.
For those who wanted a big name with the external hire - Look at a prime example of success while handling turnover in Nick Saban. He rarely makes the big splashy hire, and routinely would rehab coaches that didn't have proven success at their most recent jobs. Nobody questions his process, but people (fans and analysts) have always asked how losing certain coordinators would impact them from year to year. That brings me to another point.
You have continuity at stake. This was discussed at length in this episode. You could easily lose Bedenbaugh and/or Murray or others (Finley) on staff if you hire externally. That's a ripple effect that could push key players out, like Arnold, and next years' commits, particularly Mitchell, Hawkins, and Tatum. In retaining and promoting the current staff, you've also likely promoted Emmett Jones who you absolutely need to retain in what he has done for both recruiting and development with the WRs. He may even be the next OC when this cycle continues. Again, chess while others are into the checkers thing.
And finally, for those who still have doubts. That's okay. Many of us remember what was said when OU lost Riley and what was said about Lebby when he came in. He was doubted. His success at UCF and Ole Miss were routinely attributed to Heupel and Kiffin, respectively. OU has the Jimmy and the Joes on offense. That's what has generally been consistent over the years, and from a talent standpoint we will have more on hand moving forward than we have the past couple years. If you have the talent and you have the culture, the rest tends to take care of itself.
Boomer.
Yes I got into an interchange with a fan on another podcast that wanted Brennen Marion and the Go Go offense. I said no and he is too inexperienced and he has been at a different place every year from 2011, except was 2 years at Howard. 3 of those years are as a high school vouch and 1 year as an analyst. He needs to show stability and success first and I would want to know why an every year new place
Glad you got Pate on the pod. But screw that guys "power rankings" - dumbest crap I have ever seen.
I just can't ,...with the "special" computer ..it lost me forever
If we do the Jeff sweep
moving forward can we at least use our burners 😂
Best in the biz, jabronis.
I wasn’t happy about Lebby leaving; now I’m glad he’s gone. Looking back, I’m not sure if he ever fit in with this coaching staff. His numbers are undeniable - he’s a good OC. Obviously his time with Art Briles is more important than his allegiance or love for OU.
You should’ve recorded this at your live event