Mubeen Mahomed it wouldn’t be just the initial environmental impact to worry about but the impact through its life time, which would eclipse any initial weight in 5 years of use
@@nammar6435 do you know how much CO2 is involved in the manufacturing process of cars, from refining and mining to steel to all the machinery involved in the assembly process? Look it up; it's way more CO2 emission than you would cause driving a car that has 5 MPG worse gas mileage.
Turbocharging ruined engine sounds. Then the whole ppf stuff/regulations murdered cars. Sad. Meanwhile 18 wheelers and cargo ships have no emission regulations. Great work politicians who are driven everywhere and then take a private plane. Real examples to follow
This is why my next car won’t be on a lease. I can’t wait to delve into the used car market and aim for a rich V6/V8. I don’t like treating cars like mobile phones anymore, changing every year or two just because the industry wants me to. Progress in engineering is important, but not if it means ignoring what we’ve already got
True mate! Most new technology in cars is utterly pointless, look at the bmw gesture control for an example. No different to mobile phones where the updates are so incremental now it's nothing to get excited about. I've got an e92 M3 with a killer sound track, I'd take that over artificial intake sounds any day of the week
@@roberts1677 bikes might be the switch! i mean, you can get hyper loud exhausts & engines that rev upto 18-19kRPM!!! yeah, the car feel won't be there but something new ain't bad.
funny how the eu is all pinned up about this however them doing this isnt doing much if anything...cause the biggest factors to this are other countries such as china and india...if they dont change, then the whole eu emissions is just for pandering to leftitst
@@ThaMagnaCarta China is actually heavily banning ICE cars and they have most electric busses in the roads in the world. But china and indias CO2 pollution comes from manufacturing 90% of worlds everyday items and they are shipped all around the globe...
@@teemumiettinen7250 Yes exactly most polluting comes from factories, especially China. So what he said is kinda true. If China and India continue doing what they due EU is just pandering to leftists.
Everyone: global warming! We need to reduce gas emissions, electric cars are the future. Eco friendly! Eco friendly! Eco friendly! Green! Green! Eco friendly! Also Everyone: SUV! SUV! Bigger! Larger! Bigger! SUV! Only SUV! Just SUV! Bigger SUV! Larger SUV! Bigger SUV please! More SUV please! Go go SUV!
Why did I have to be born in the 2000s 😢 I don't wanna be alive for a time where cars are like this, I wish I was born in the 60s that generation had the best midlife crisis with W204's Gallardos, Carerra GT's, V10 station wagons, etc. I'm gonna be stuck with Google assistant attached to a set of wheels and a seat.
@@RS-nq8xk Particularly on the CSL. However, a decent exhaust goes a long way in improving the driving experience. Turbo cars sound terrible on intake, imo
What are you talking about? The 2nd gen. Tesla Roadster will do +400kph and 0-100km/h in sub 2 seconds. The new Ford F150 Lightning is packed with utility (e.g. 11 +120 V outlets and capable as acting as a backup electrical source for your HOUSE) due to its electric engine. It baffles me that it's a common opinion that cars should be loud and sound "great". (I feel I must add that I'm a racing fan)
@@yooro3948 yes because 0-100 does not define the car or how good it is! There are so many aspects to consider: Handling, SOUND, Directness of the engine, Lightness and so on. Speed is only Part of that. You can be as fast as you want but if you dont feel any emotions its not as fun. Thats why i would prefer a cayman gts 4.0 over any tesla or even the rimac nevera, because i love the sound, which gives me goosebumps everytime, no matter how fast you go!
when you hear about all the new things that are being put into play in the near future for cars it's genuinely upsetting and almost makes me cry. it makes me think that I won't be able to achieve my dreams in the way I would've liked to
Police man1: Did that cars exhaust note exceed the 75 decibel limit?! Police man 2: *Looks intently at the police man 1..... Police man 2: To the justice mobile!
This is such BS, relax. I live above a noisy street where I hear pops and bangs and pulls all day and all night, unreasonably loud ones, and nobody has ever had police pull them over. Everyone in the comments is being so anal.
Actually, the sound is engineered nowadays and has been for about 25 years or more. Yes, if you tune for power you’ll have the basics or fundamentals but tuning the resonators on the air induction combined with the exhaust resonator placement and muffler contents is quite complicated. Then there is INTERNAL sound quality versus EXTERNAL sound quality. The transfer functions from Air Inlet and Tailpipe must be carefully engineered as is the structureborne energy from all of the engine and transmission mounts.
Shout out to all the aftermarket manufacturers that sell “off-road” exhaust components to people who clearly have never owned race cars or cars that have any other modification that increases track performance
It's pretty clever though, they can't do shit about existing cars (my Alfa v6 fits exactly none of these requirements, screams like hell over 4k rpm) and right now car people will hit the roof if they go and ban ICEs (which they will). So what do they do? Suck out anything that makes engines great, strangle the sound, force us into ridiculously long ratio CVTs or DCTs for emissions and fuel consumtion and take away all the driver involvement for 'safety' until we've all gone home, given up and stopped caring. The ICE won't die when they ban it, it'll die because everything that made it great is taken away by elderly bastards in suits
@@helplmchoking yeah I get what you're saying, eventually ICEs won't be worth fighting for because they'll be as quiet as electric cars 😂 time to get another Superbike, I think the first mod any biker will do (its what I did on my previous bike) is to get a proper exhaust on it 😂
@@jamsxr No that's not just a first-world problem, people can get some pretty loud cars even in poorer countries, and what you said doesn't make any sense in this context, because not everyone from a "1st world country" can afford a Jag f-type, a Lamborghini, Ferrari or anything like that.
Karen's and NPC's of society: Sports car bad! Sports car bad! Pollution! Pollution! Car enthusiast: Oh, my car is too loud and causing pollution? Well allow me to play the song of my people! *Anti-lag, revs, pops, crackles, backfire intensifies*
If we could go back 100 years there would be those mourning the clip-clop sounds of horse hooves on cobblestones.In another 20 years internal combustion engines will be rare in common vehicles anyway.
I’ve never understood why bangs, or farts, from the exhaust are supposed to be desirable. The number of cretins driving up my road with some awful noise out the back (usually Fiestas but also an M140i) just makes you want to slap them in the face. Save noise for the circuit and rally stages (historic cars with ITBs is all I’d ever miss if that came to an end)
@@harshithsadhana7475 Gotta remember you won't be driving or owning anything for at least 16 years after being born. So born in 1950 you really got 60's and 70's cars as your hayday.
@@harshithsadhana7475 That is very true but what I was eluding to was that if I was born in the 50's I would have one of the cars built before the new ppf rules. I would have the RS4 B9 instead of the B9.5. Happy driving and stay safe!
@@ConfusedOxygen noise and air pollution are bad things. So called "good" engine sound is a nuisance and a health problem for many people living near roads. Now it's on its way out and good riddance. Electric cars are a blessing.
@@supermutant01 electric cars are quiet, emissionless, friendly to drive, simple to maintain, energy efficient. In almost every way superior to internal combustion engine cars.
Call me crazy, but we're nearing a world that's from iRobot; the scene where Will Smith pulls out a petrol motorcycle and his female companion says "That's a gasoline I.C.E, those are dangerous" etc...
Another solution may be for manufacturers to make the engine bay louder. Use less sound deadening materials between the firewall and the interior + alloys/metals which vibrate more. Bring more sound into the interior without playing fake computer generated sound files.
@@mTwMarco the s4 pops a little if you let of the throttle a little bit and taps the gas a little bit. The tune for pops and bangs tho... sounds stupid.
When I did military service, I had gas mask training. A gas mask is basically a particle filter and it inherently causes the same problem: it muffles sounds. Of course, in battle it's kinda advantageous to be able to clearly hear what your squad mates are saying, so modern gas masks have special membranes that allow sound to pass through, but not air. I don't see why car manufacturers don't just add membranes to their filters.
adding a filter could be beneficial for car sounds, the alfa romeo GTV6 had an excellent sounding engine with very little exhaust sound. Car manufacturers will start to focus on better engines rather than better exaust systems.
The exhaust note is not really what I look for in a car, more the intake note from the engine sucking in air and working hard. Since the mass production of turbochargers that has long gone. And now they've taken the fun of modifying our cars awag altogether, maybe it's time to buy some old cars after the virus has gone. Stay home and stay safe people, and good luck to you Mr Reid :)
Intake sounds kind of died a long time ago though, the move to closed up airboxes pretty much killed it. That's why you see a bunch of 'performance' cars that have proper pod filters for the wooshes but that are locked up in a box, hell the Focus RS literally seals away the filter once you close the bonnet so it's quiet while you drive and you only get the wooshes when you've got it open. It's ridiculous
@@robertpryor7225 I'm guessing you're American since that seems to be where they called them Infinitis, they were Skylines here in NZ cause we just import all the JDM models. Did you guys get the v8 versions?
They are definitely gonna think you are an idiot. They will be riding around in little pods with living rooms in them. It'll be like your dad telling you how awesome horse farts sounded back in the good ol days.
@@ultrastoat3298 that's what they thought of 2020 in the 90s and it didn't happen as you can clearly see for yourself the car community is huugeeee they will keep buying old cars and making them loud af you can't stop them
What if they are highly sensitive and don't like noise pollution? Seems like inherent optimism bias and terror management theory will always help regardless of ideologies such as antinatalism based on consent.
Hah! *wipes tears out of eyes* not even close, on paper the numbers are impressive but in reality and outside a straight line I've long since stopped associating Tesla with performance.
@@williamdraken6018 true, teslas are shit, overprised(can't blame them for Li, Co, etc prices), and lifeless to some extent. But there is fortunately an alternative:- ruclips.net/video/TIZ5IEWk2iM/видео.html ruclips.net/video/I89llX3HUWc/видео.html ruclips.net/video/CiCnN97AxoE/видео.html who said you cant get the feel of pure driving in electric vehicles? no sound, no smell, but atleast the gearshifts! so 1/3rd of a soul???
ExileXCross obviously they’re not track cars. But the model 3 is actually really good on the track. Why do you think like that? Taycan is great too. Can’t wait for plaid model s and roadster. I mean I would prefer some loud sporty car like the m3 too, but for most people electric cars are just perfect. Can go very fast but still perfect comfortable and quiet daily drive.
WIlliam Draken for enthusiasts yes. I hope some cars like these remain in the future. But for most people I think electric cars are more exiting. Most people buying performance cars today don’t even care about the sound. Just has to look good, be fast, somewhat comfortable and have some nice features.
Cars peaked around 2006 when manufacturers where putting in naturally aspirated V8 and race tuned V10s that probably make the best engine sounds ever but future is electronic and engine noises will probably come out of the car speakers.
“Somehow got away with”, they’re a small manufacturer (under 10k cars) and have lower restrictions. Also you can still engineer good engine notes. Filters themselves are not mandatory - if manufacturers can do the emissions without them that’s fine
Paul Webb pre facelift? Love it. Only bad thing was Mercedes-Benz asshole move to pretty much give the c43 facelift the c63 pre facelift styling. And the only bad thing about that gen c class to me is the infotainment screen tablet shit. Other than that beautiful and awesome car. It was actually my first car but not as an amg but with a 4 pot, wish it had twice the cylinders
i love the sound of my e93 335i, drive it sometimes just for the sound , jump in and hit a nice windy road near home at about 1 am so i have it all to myself and can just enjoy the sound and feel of the driving
I'm in the minority, but I prefer silent cars. Okay, I love the sound of an occasional Lamborghini or V8 AMG engine. Those are rare cars that use the engine noise for theatrics. Though I'm not a fan of the Ferrari scream. But I really hate the sounds of cheap V8's found in pickup trucks and Mustangs, along with the buzzy, trashy sound of the 4cyl engines in everything from Corollas to Range Rovers today. Especially in an urban setting or anything around a main road where hundreds of cars combine together to create awful background noise. The cars that make the best engine sounds today... Tesla.
Hi Rory, really didn’t enjoy watching you on Top Gear but you absolutely shot this channel and I find myself looking out for your videos here. Great video again, thanks for sharing.
This is the thing, it makes no economical sense for the manufacturers to develop different versions of the same car for different markets, at least in the noise-making department. As a result, the cars are getting quieter globally.
This is why I bought my 981 GTS when I did. I knew that glorious flat 6 was going away and I needed to get one before they did. So happy I have it, puts a smile on my face every time I start her up. Wouldn't change that sound for the world and I would not buy the modern equivalent, even if it's a little bit quicker/more powerful.
@@nevarran the regulations are flawed, it's always us drivers getting hit everytime everywhere. And they milk us for more money to drive our cars. For some of a personal car isn't just a car like I guess it is for you. For some of us it's a passion. I love motor vehicles of all ages and my dream garage would have probably a few hundred cars from the ages. Someone who isn't a car guy wouldn't understand. They are the very people who ask a question of a dream car. There isn't one. There are too many dream machines out there which nullifies that very question.
@@tanvirhussain6106 No, they are not flawed. Most of the people on Earth live in cities, where the big concentration of vehicles is a huge health issue. So even if cars make a small percentage of the global emissions, reducing their particles output in the cities will have big impact on human health. And I'm sorry, but if I have to choose between asthma and my car sounding a little worse, I'll gladly choose the latter. I drive an A35 AMG, btw.
And as we know, America is blatantly disregarding the prospect of Global Warming. Make sure you tell your grandchildren that you cut the emissions sections off your cars, they will hate you even more!
I see this as both a blessing and a curse, since I feel like some cars are a little too loud, but this also affects cars that are a bit too quiet. One side wins the other side looses.
@@xfuckingcamperx And let the electric cars take over? Thanks for the genius opinion, snowflake. Ever heard of a diesel generator? Now tell me which one pollutes the earth even more? Petrol cars or all the harmful chemical and pollution caused to produce your cLeAn electric cars? Looks like this lockdown had screwed some of your brains out already
thanks America for screwing cars and putting automatic transmissions on them. I just love manual transmission. Driving an automatic is too boring for me
The loud roaring sounds of these cars from Mercedes-Benz, Audi and BMW among many other car brands, gave these cars a soul and it was one of the primary reasons for buying these expensive cars. Might as well consider buying cheaper brands now, as those will sound the same, still offer decent looks in the modern era and likely be more fuel efficient. This is very disappointing news. People should force this new law to change through their purchasing decisions like buy more Japanese or American car brands so Europe can perhaps scale back on this new legislation.
Why shouldn't Mercedes, Audi, BMW, Lamborghini, Ferrari, Jaguar, Porsche, Koenigsegg, Bugatti, Lexus, Mustang, Cadillac, Infinity, Corvette, Bently, Alfo Remeo, Dodge, Rolls Royce, McLaren. Tens if not hundreds of thousands of high paying jobs should be destroyed so Ford, Toyota, Kia, Honda, Chevy, Nissan, Subaru, Jeep, have even less competition, for example a brand new honda piolet fully speced out will cost $55,000 you can get a BMW x4 fully optioned out for 58 thousand dollars brand new not to mention nearly all of these "fordable cars brands" own a performance car brand, a luxury car brand or a mix of both, not to mention sound doesn't hurt the environment pollution does, why help these monopolies? Why have less options? Why would you want everyone to have the same car? Please get educated about this topic before you regulate our hobby
Thanks man!! I was interested in buying a 2020 Ferrari Roma. Luckily i saw this video while i was on the toilet right before i went to make the purchase. So im just going to go with the 2011 Bugatti Veyron for now. Thanks for the heads up!!
I just wish more politicians understood car culture. It’s incredible easy to drastically change things that you don’t understand and don’t care about, but what would happen if we took away their golf clubs and gave them pool noodles? Wouldn’t be fair now would it?
The PPF isn't really the issue. With a few exceptions, exhaust noise is not the best noise a car makes (especially 4 cylinders) and isn't really audible from inside a closed cabin - It just annoys other people. The main sound a driver enjoys when thrashing a car is the intake sound, and the reason that sucks today is because most modern performance cars are turbocharged but tuned to behave like N/A engines so you get no wastegate noise, no compressor surge, no flutter. You get a dull, muted drone coming from behind 10 layers of sound deadening and it just sucks. You go compare the honk of a classic N/A 4 cylinder with ITBs to the flat exhaust drone of a modern 4 pot hot hatch and you'll see what I mean.
Good. If people cannot realise how irritating their loud sounding cars are to others, and if the PPF has the byproduct of reducing noise, I'm all for it. I live in the countryside and way too many cars pass by the road near my house whose engines are louder than the tyre/aero noise. It's a nono. Plus you have to remember that noise is wasted energy anyway. Not that ICE is a model of efficiency anyway...
What is the best sounding car on sale today? Comment below ⬇️
All V10 Lambos and those twin turbo AMG V8 Mercs
Lambo aston BMW's
AMG cars
Muscle cars with a v8
Maserati granturismo
the used sports car market might benefit from this
Will be keeping the 997 s until i pass it over to my son. Kiss my ass PPF.
@@crimsonpirate1710 Damn that's what I am talking about. (:
Tim Botha and for that reason, never selling my Aventador 50th... ever since the S and SVJ, the sound has just gone downhill sadly.
not shit from autotrader
Steven Lang Check his channel... He has one
Yep, cars in 2020 are extremely quiet.
They’re nearly all parked.
Fax
Yeah. If ur car is parked and still making noise it's game over lmaoo
lolololololol so true at least the air will be cleaner due to the COVID19 😂 I own a car before all the car lovers come to hate on me
K1ller_ _Headsh0t lmao no one is inside here it’s business as usual on the road for the most part here in CO.
@@huntermacdonald6431 is that so lol
20 years from now people are going to lose their minds when they hear how F1 used to sound.
What if there is no more f1 in 20 years
F1 probably gonna be exempt forom this. The law is designed for normal consumers
Nicolas Baroja nope. They are getting quieter
This is already true, F1 sound boring nowadays compared to in the 90's. Remember when they had V12's?
The honda cbx sounds better than all of the boring 2020 cars combined
Buy old cars:
- more environmental than buying a new car
- still sound great
Andreas they’re not more friendly.....
@@nammar6435 He means the environmental impact of producing a new car is way higher than just buying an old car
Mubeen Mahomed it wouldn’t be just the initial environmental impact to worry about but the impact through its life time, which would eclipse any initial weight in 5 years of use
What about the environmental health of your wallet. That's to definetly take into consideration.
@@nammar6435 do you know how much CO2 is involved in the manufacturing process of cars, from refining and mining to steel to all the machinery involved in the assembly process? Look it up; it's way more CO2 emission than you would cause driving a car that has 5 MPG worse gas mileage.
I'm 30, I'm beginning to understand why older people are so much into old cars. I'll be the same in 20 years.
Turbocharging ruined engine sounds. Then the whole ppf stuff/regulations murdered cars. Sad. Meanwhile 18 wheelers and cargo ships have no emission regulations. Great work politicians who are driven everywhere and then take a private plane. Real examples to follow
If you do that to trucks and cargo ships probably all the goods will cost a lot more. Do you want that ?
Sound is so irrelevant. It doesn't mean the car is not fun anymore, and it's for a good cause
@@HeortirtheWoodwarden The sound makes a big difference in driving pleasure.
@@Riiiisc too bad then. Deal with it, it's not the end of the world
@@Riiiisc you can still enjoy the inertia and g force
Europeans: Sound off
Americans: *Orders 3" straight through cat-less exhaust system*
false
right they would get a 4 inch one
Not in California.
@@johnsimun6533 theres straight piped cars everywhere in ca.
Germans: Laughing in Schnitzel on the Autobahn without Speed Limit ;)
Time to buy older cars now.
Yup I already am.
Until they are banned.
@@LivingLifeSlower Thats probably not that far away.
A lex Would you mind explaining this? I am intrigued by the statement.
Absolutely agree... Better get surfing that Autotrader app! Thanks for the vlog Autotrader! 😉
I really lost interest in cars generally, and I don’t wanna be an oldhead ranting about how before it was better... my passion is DEAD, goodbye.
Lol, dude sounds like he's going to off himself! chill ... check out the Audi e-Tron GT , loooks gorgeous ...
@@hieroglyph321 but no sound
Old cars are just better.
hieroglyph321 no sound so shit
@@hieroglyph321 looks great but no sound smart one
One of the saddest videos I've seen in a long time.
Well no body forced you to watch it you mug... LMAO
@@SPEAKTHETRUTH.24.7. I think he means he is sad about the video in the normal sense if the word lol
I have to agree with you.
This is why my next car won’t be on a lease. I can’t wait to delve into the used car market and aim for a rich V6/V8.
I don’t like treating cars like mobile phones anymore, changing every year or two just because the industry wants me to.
Progress in engineering is important, but not if it means ignoring what we’ve already got
Adam Simper- well said brother
True mate!
Most new technology in cars is utterly pointless, look at the bmw gesture control for an example.
No different to mobile phones where the updates are so incremental now it's nothing to get excited about.
I've got an e92 M3 with a killer sound track, I'd take that over artificial intake sounds any day of the week
LOL...! Autotrader sells used cars and publishes a vlog slagging off new motors. I feel so naive...! 🤪
Yeah. People great cars like TVs or phones etc. It’s a car. Keep it for its greatness.
Manual R8 it is then. V8 best sounding and still looks superb. Nice analogue feel to it aswell
The law: "Its illegal to modify your exhaust"
Tuner: "Our downpipe is for off road use only" * Fits downpipe to customer cars anyway *
Sounds like aftermarket parts. ;)
God bless them
Lol they can do that because they'll just say the customer told them the car would only be used on track
Michael Charity which is ironic considering the annoying noise limits imposed by tracks nowadays.
Yeah. We live in a free society. Get over it.
This was very interesting. Do more videos like this.
Yeah, change of pace from now and then is really good. Really unexpected and I was pleasantly surprised.
Just drop the unnecessary & annoying background music tho🤨
Really great video
Gotta love the EU and their "If it's fun, we will regulate it until it is no longer fun" mentality.
A.K.A. You are really stupid
It's among the many reasons why they'll die off eventually
You’re stupid Europe is the most environment friendly they’re not gonna ruin that for us car guys
Nammar 64 environment = Bad ? Bruh
@@iurucsilviu3706 Good counter argument. Did u learn that at NPC school?
*laughs in 9500 RPM VTEC Honda*
76 db ? My car does 76db when it's not even running. hahaha
bonamin. VTEC kicked in yo!
I checked the idle on my Triumph. 76 dBA at idle. Stock.
@@roberts1677
bikes might be the switch!
i mean, you can get hyper loud exhausts & engines that rev upto 18-19kRPM!!!
yeah, the car feel won't be there but something new ain't bad.
@@akupehsluarketatAR why do you type like an edgy 8th grader from 2009
@@benfillman4049 coz ur mom taught me to
euro6: no more loud and polluent cars!!
everyone: buys loud and polluent old cars...
euro6: '-'
funny how the eu is all pinned up about this however them doing this isnt doing much if anything...cause the biggest factors to this are other countries such as china and india...if they dont change, then the whole eu emissions is just for pandering to leftitst
@@ThaMagnaCarta China is actually heavily banning ICE cars and they have most electric busses in the roads in the world. But china and indias CO2 pollution comes from manufacturing 90% of worlds everyday items and they are shipped all around the globe...
@@teemumiettinen7250 Yes exactly most polluting comes from factories, especially China. So what he said is kinda true. If China and India continue doing what they due EU is just pandering to leftists.
Everyone: global warming! We need to reduce gas emissions, electric cars are the future. Eco friendly! Eco friendly! Eco friendly! Green! Green! Eco friendly!
Also Everyone: SUV! SUV! Bigger! Larger! Bigger! SUV! Only SUV! Just SUV! Bigger SUV! Larger SUV! Bigger SUV please! More SUV please! Go go SUV!
Straight piping: has entered the chat.
Charles Bronson straight piping is considered tax evasian in germany😭
DieBlauenSeiten downpipe still does the job
@@m.k.8082 there is still a huge diffierence if you have a downpipe with aftermarket cat or one without
In switzerland its illegal
DieBlauenSeiten another reason I’m American
That was more depressing news than what’s currently on TV 🙁 thanks for that !
😔
Then you need to reflect on your priorities. Thousands of people are dying of a dire illness everyday and you think fucking quiet cars are worse
@@HeortirtheWoodwarden I second that.
@@Imperialbbuilding oh dear lord, ur one of those 👀
abcfitness You're that kinda person eh?
Why did I have to be born in the 2000s 😢 I don't wanna be alive for a time where cars are like this, I wish I was born in the 60s that generation had the best midlife crisis with W204's Gallardos, Carerra GT's, V10 station wagons, etc. I'm gonna be stuck with Google assistant attached to a set of wheels and a seat.
you can allways buy a older car my dude
Indeed, i was born in the wrong generation
This is the worst timeline 👀
Me too, mate. Me too.
Exactly brooo
Exactly broooo
yea, and just like that, the older generation destroyed all the fun and engine noise we could be enjoying for decades to come
Cars in 2030 will be a huge cat converter with 4 wheels on it..LoloL...🤣😂
And fall apart in 2 years
People are only buying motorized Hapsburg Chins (AKA SUV's) now, so who cares.
Electric..
Best sounds stopped since 2009 recession. V10 M5...
Pritesh Ruthun Wow now that was a sound!!!
@@theemperor477 It was bro. I had the CATs removed and custom pipes on my 08 model. Best sounding non exotic car ever...
@@ruthun Intake sound is always better than the exhaust sound.
@@RS-nq8xk Particularly on the CSL. However, a decent exhaust goes a long way in improving the driving experience. Turbo cars sound terrible on intake, imo
Id say that hellcats still sound good
Had my mk5 R32 for 11 years since new. There is simply no replacement for the beast besides I'm not gonna get rid of it ever.V6 forever
Had to sell my mk4 silver r32 last year. Has the capristo exhaust, Only had 20,000 kms on it
:( saddest day of my life
They are killing the dream, the desire to go fast, the music they call noise. They are killing a wonderful experience.
What are you talking about? The 2nd gen. Tesla Roadster will do +400kph and 0-100km/h in sub 2 seconds. The new Ford F150 Lightning is packed with utility (e.g. 11 +120 V outlets and capable as acting as a backup electrical source for your HOUSE) due to its electric engine. It baffles me that it's a common opinion that cars should be loud and sound "great". (I feel I must add that I'm a racing fan)
@@MisterMajister and I'm sure you only make love with all the lights off, too.
@@MisterMajister youre such a 0-100 kid...
@@janneshildebrandt1 is there a problem with that tho
@@yooro3948 yes because 0-100 does not define the car or how good it is! There are so many aspects to consider: Handling, SOUND, Directness of the engine, Lightness and so on. Speed is only Part of that. You can be as fast as you want but if you dont feel any emotions its not as fun. Thats why i would prefer a cayman gts 4.0 over any tesla or even the rimac nevera, because i love the sound, which gives me goosebumps everytime, no matter how fast you go!
when you hear about all the new things that are being put into play in the near future for cars it's genuinely upsetting and almost makes me cry. it makes me think that I won't be able to achieve my dreams in the way I would've liked to
Can I assume then your concern is for the planet? No more cars please.
A future very affordable electric car model with a 600 mile Solid State Battery will be objectively superior to an old internal combustion engine car
A supra ,f40 or modified 60s mini sounds impossible unless it's in an underground bunker or secret then probably won't happen
Police man1: Did that cars exhaust note exceed the 75 decibel limit?!
Police man 2: *Looks intently at the police man 1.....
Police man 2: To the justice mobile!
Meanwhile someone reports a theft/other crime and the police couldn't care less. Sad times.
well yeah japanese one.... most stock don't soound nice for long since it just steel pipe...
Meanwhile one of your neighbours is on the fone to 999 to report you for having à friend over.
My exhaust is 85db 1m away from cars rear end and 20cm above ground. Passed MOT with flying colours
This is such BS, relax. I live above a noisy street where I hear pops and bangs and pulls all day and all night, unreasonably loud ones, and nobody has ever had police pull them over. Everyone in the comments is being so anal.
PPF, electric engine...All this makes me want to cry 😪😪
Same
try one serious electric car, I've never felt such connection to the throttle pedal, they can be good, just chose wisely
No such thing as electric ENGINE. But Electric Motors are freaking awesome.
Electric engines are so great. I'm currently driving a Porsche and next I'm going to buy a Tesla!
Malaka Don’t. Tesla is anti repair, they are basically the Apple of car companies.
I feel like this happen since neighbor kept complaining about people revving their cars
Actually, the sound is engineered nowadays and has been for about 25 years or more.
Yes, if you tune for power you’ll have the basics or fundamentals but tuning the resonators on the air induction combined with the exhaust resonator placement and muffler contents is quite complicated. Then there is INTERNAL sound quality versus EXTERNAL sound quality. The transfer functions from Air Inlet and Tailpipe must be carefully engineered as is the structureborne energy from all of the engine and transmission mounts.
Shout out to all the aftermarket manufacturers that sell “off-road” exhaust components to people who clearly have never owned race cars or cars that have any other modification that increases track performance
Now that was some depressing stuff, dark days ahead :'(
First world problems 🤣
It's pretty clever though, they can't do shit about existing cars (my Alfa v6 fits exactly none of these requirements, screams like hell over 4k rpm) and right now car people will hit the roof if they go and ban ICEs (which they will). So what do they do? Suck out anything that makes engines great, strangle the sound, force us into ridiculously long ratio CVTs or DCTs for emissions and fuel consumtion and take away all the driver involvement for 'safety' until we've all gone home, given up and stopped caring. The ICE won't die when they ban it, it'll die because everything that made it great is taken away by elderly bastards in suits
@@helplmchoking yeah I get what you're saying, eventually ICEs won't be worth fighting for because they'll be as quiet as electric cars 😂 time to get another Superbike, I think the first mod any biker will do (its what I did on my previous bike) is to get a proper exhaust on it 😂
@@jamsxr No that's not just a first-world problem, people can get some pretty loud cars even in poorer countries, and what you said doesn't make any sense in this context, because not everyone from a "1st world country" can afford a Jag f-type, a Lamborghini, Ferrari or anything like that.
@@jamsxr you mean a problem for those who enjoy driving, but a to b lemons don't care.
This is honestly depressing. I will never sell my RS7. Never.
I really hope so mate, good luck keeping it.
def and I’ll add straight pipe to my subie and I’ll never sell it then
Never sell ur rs7 mate that car is a BEAST just get a tune and some better exhaust
I feel you. I hope they let us keep our loud cars for loooong time
motor head
Karen's and NPC's of society: Sports car bad! Sports car bad! Pollution! Pollution!
Car enthusiast: Oh, my car is too loud and causing pollution? Well allow me to play the song of my people! *Anti-lag, revs, pops, crackles, backfire intensifies*
If we could go back 100 years there would be those mourning the clip-clop sounds of horse hooves on cobblestones.In another 20 years internal combustion engines will be rare in common vehicles anyway.
Lexus lfa: best sounding car. Change my mind
no chief, Carrera GT
Koenigsegg one 1 is the best sounding
Rb26
@Junior e39 ///M5 Fiat Panda 750 fire
Rory you should make a video with all the best sounding cars so we will never forget
Previous gen C63 AMG & RS5 better be there
Crime not to mention Lexus LFA
First, they came for the manual transmissions.... now they’ve taken the sound 😱
Bruh, what. The people have chosen the auto, as a large portion of buyers choose them over manuals. That has nothing to do with the EU...
LYNE wasn’t making the claim about the EU, per se. I’m only lamenting the direction auto manufacturers have taken, irrespective of reason.
Just wait until you don't even have the option of driving the car, and it becomes your personal taxi
@@guusguusguus manuals are way more fun and here in europe most people have manual
@channel 9 then you're most probably live in the city, worked from 9 to 5, and never having fun in your car, blasting it to the limit
I'm keeping my remapped m140i for a VERY long time.
Best car ever anyway
I’ve never understood why bangs, or farts, from the exhaust are supposed to be desirable. The number of cretins driving up my road with some awful noise out the back (usually Fiestas but also an M140i) just makes you want to slap them in the face. Save noise for the circuit and rally stages (historic cars with ITBs is all I’d ever miss if that came to an end)
yep, i have to agree.
There's a difference between pops & bangs coming out of a McLaren and pops & bangs coming out of a trashcan on wheels lol.
And that's the thing. The noise is only desirable to the person driving. Anybody else around them just think "bloody knobhead."
Yes, the worst is that it is all artificial nowadays...
Those "pops & bangs" are so predictable...
@@emsbzrr8024 Even there it's "fake"...
Drop Future cars, I'll gladly buy Older cars.
yes exactly what I said! people are buying older any way
Wish I was born in 60’s & 70’s era 🔥
you can still buy older car
I was. Wish I was born in the 50'S. LOL
@@franzschiffl2525 50s cars were not as good as 60s 70s
@@harshithsadhana7475 Gotta remember you won't be driving or owning anything for at least 16 years after being born. So born in 1950 you really got 60's and 70's cars as your hayday.
@@harshithsadhana7475 That is very true but what I was eluding to was that if I was born in the 50's I would have one of the cars built before the new ppf rules. I would have the RS4 B9 instead of the B9.5. Happy driving and stay safe!
Well... This was depressing
No. This is a good thing.
dschledermann WHAT
@@ConfusedOxygen noise and air pollution are bad things. So called "good" engine sound is a nuisance and a health problem for many people living near roads. Now it's on its way out and good riddance. Electric cars are a blessing.
@@dschledermann Driving electric belongs at the fun fair. Not on public cars with real cars.
@@supermutant01 electric cars are quiet, emissionless, friendly to drive, simple to maintain, energy efficient. In almost every way superior to internal combustion engine cars.
Ironically they made rules that force electric cars to make more sound
Call me crazy, but we're nearing a world that's from iRobot; the scene where Will Smith pulls out a petrol motorcycle and his female companion says "That's a gasoline I.C.E, those are dangerous" etc...
Another solution may be for manufacturers to make the engine bay louder. Use less sound deadening materials between the firewall and the interior + alloys/metals which vibrate more. Bring more sound into the interior without playing fake computer generated sound files.
Rory is killing it with these videos!
Think I’ll keep my S4 and enjoy the engine noise/pops whilst I can
I have to repeat: artificial bangs and pops are NOT sound. It sounds ridiculous.
@@mTwMarco the s4 pops a little if you let of the throttle a little bit and taps the gas a little bit. The tune for pops and bangs tho... sounds stupid.
Delta S4? Good car man! You're soooooo lucky!
@@mTwMarco True! 👍
@@andreaschristiansen9742 It's still artificial from factory.
When I did military service, I had gas mask training. A gas mask is basically a particle filter and it inherently causes the same problem: it muffles sounds. Of course, in battle it's kinda advantageous to be able to clearly hear what your squad mates are saying, so modern gas masks have special membranes that allow sound to pass through, but not air.
I don't see why car manufacturers don't just add membranes to their filters.
Of what material are modern masks? Is it capable to sustain extreme heat?
adding a filter could be beneficial for car sounds, the alfa romeo GTV6 had an excellent sounding engine with very little exhaust sound. Car manufacturers will start to focus on better engines rather than better exaust systems.
The exhaust note is not really what I look for in a car, more the intake note from the engine sucking in air and working hard. Since the mass production of turbochargers that has long gone. And now they've taken the fun of modifying our cars awag altogether, maybe it's time to buy some old cars after the virus has gone. Stay home and stay safe people, and good luck to you Mr Reid :)
Agreed. Thank you for your comment.
Intake sounds kind of died a long time ago though, the move to closed up airboxes pretty much killed it. That's why you see a bunch of 'performance' cars that have proper pod filters for the wooshes but that are locked up in a box, hell the Focus RS literally seals away the filter once you close the bonnet so it's quiet while you drive and you only get the wooshes when you've got it open. It's ridiculous
Infiniti G35, yes
@@robertpryor7225 I'm guessing you're American since that seems to be where they called them Infinitis, they were Skylines here in NZ cause we just import all the JDM models.
Did you guys get the v8 versions?
@@helplmchoking New turbo cars (at least in RUclips videos) seem to sound kind of like a Naturally aspirated engine's intake sound now
Im gonna tell my kids about the time when cars sounded so good, that they were defined eargasm producing machines
They are definitely gonna think you are an idiot. They will be riding around in little pods with living rooms in them. It'll be like your dad telling you how awesome horse farts sounded back in the good ol days.
@@ultrastoat3298 i dont care, im gonna buy no pod to my children
@@ultrastoat3298 that's what they thought of 2020 in the 90s and it didn't happen as you can clearly see for yourself the car community is huugeeee they will keep buying old cars and making them loud af you can't stop them
What if they are highly sensitive and don't like noise pollution? Seems like inherent optimism bias and terror management theory will always help regardless of ideologies such as antinatalism based on consent.
I really miss having a musical exhaust sound 😞.
It doesnt have to be load, but at least it should sound muscular
Yes, todays cars might be loud but they sound like trash...
So artificial...
I'll never get rid of my NA 5.0 V8 Mustang Bullitt - sad times ahead
I love cars. But I’d rather have a livable planet to enjoy them rather than ending it all for some noise.
I think you are mixing up noise and pollution. Pollution is killing the earth, performance cars having louder exhaust is not.
Don't forget that they're now using a rev limiter...
Autotrader: Not enough people buying used cars on our app
Rory: Hold my beer
I cherish the memories of the sound of my glorious Maserati Granturismo
"sound is a by-product of performance"
Tesla- hold my American beer
Hah! *wipes tears out of eyes* not even close, on paper the numbers are impressive but in reality and outside a straight line I've long since stopped associating Tesla with performance.
And thats why Tesla and electric cars suck and will never be as exciting. No sound, no smell, no gears shifts = no soul
@@williamdraken6018
true, teslas are shit, overprised(can't blame them for Li, Co, etc prices), and lifeless to some extent.
But there is fortunately an alternative:-
ruclips.net/video/TIZ5IEWk2iM/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/I89llX3HUWc/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/CiCnN97AxoE/видео.html
who said you cant get the feel of pure driving in electric vehicles?
no sound, no smell, but atleast the gearshifts!
so 1/3rd of a soul???
ExileXCross obviously they’re not track cars. But the model 3 is actually really good on the track. Why do you think like that?
Taycan is great too.
Can’t wait for plaid model s and roadster.
I mean I would prefer some loud sporty car like the m3 too, but for most people electric cars are just perfect. Can go very fast but still perfect comfortable and quiet daily drive.
WIlliam Draken for enthusiasts yes.
I hope some cars like these remain in the future.
But for most people I think electric cars are more exiting. Most people buying performance cars today don’t even care about the sound.
Just has to look good, be fast, somewhat comfortable and have some nice features.
Cars peaked around 2006 when manufacturers where putting in naturally aspirated V8 and race tuned V10s that probably make the best engine sounds ever but future is electronic and engine noises will probably come out of the car speakers.
“Somehow got away with”, they’re a small manufacturer (under 10k cars) and have lower restrictions.
Also you can still engineer good engine notes.
Filters themselves are not mandatory - if manufacturers can do the emissions without them that’s fine
So ferrari makes more cars than lamborghini?
@@robertjusic9097 apparently twice as many.
So basically just scream broom broom out the window 🤷🏾♂️
Which is why I bought the 4.2 NA V8 Audi Rs5 (which may or may not have a resonator delete) 🤷🏻♂️ sounds amazing
So the first gen - early 2010s RS5?
@@Kev27RS the facelift B8.5 in 2012
@@chubbsmasterson Ok 😉👍
Watching this made me even happier for my n55 straight 6 sitting outside. Feel like sitting in it and revving it up just for the noise.
Same! 😂
Have a TVR Griffith pre-cat V8, the sound is amazing, like rolling thunder. Nearly 30 years old now and about to become a classic
We were already depressed enough
Bushwood I wonder if anything good comes out in the coming years 😖
Exactly why I'll be keeping my August 2017 C63'S, the sound compared to the 2019 is so much throatier!
Paul Webb pre facelift? Love it. Only bad thing was Mercedes-Benz asshole move to pretty much give the c43 facelift the c63 pre facelift styling. And the only bad thing about that gen c class to me is the infotainment screen tablet shit. Other than that beautiful and awesome car. It was actually my first car but not as an amg but with a 4 pot, wish it had twice the cylinders
It still doesn't sound as good as the older V8 AMGs.
On this basis, in a few years pre- WLTP/2016 and older performance cars are going to go up in value a lot
Don´t count on that. Even if they sound a little better, almost all of them will continue to depreciate.
Pre 2018 it is. There is no MY2017 with an OPF
i love the sound of my e93 335i, drive it sometimes just for the sound , jump in and hit a nice windy road near home at about 1 am so i have it all to myself and can just enjoy the sound and feel of the driving
This is freedom and it's amazing! I do tha too but without the sound part, I have a Diesel XD
I'm in the minority, but I prefer silent cars. Okay, I love the sound of an occasional Lamborghini or V8 AMG engine. Those are rare cars that use the engine noise for theatrics. Though I'm not a fan of the Ferrari scream. But I really hate the sounds of cheap V8's found in pickup trucks and Mustangs, along with the buzzy, trashy sound of the 4cyl engines in everything from Corollas to Range Rovers today. Especially in an urban setting or anything around a main road where hundreds of cars combine together to create awful background noise. The cars that make the best engine sounds today... Tesla.
Rory is so good, he is in his domain here, lot better than at top gear! Nice one mate, one of the best car reviewers right now.
Hi Rory, really didn’t enjoy watching you on Top Gear but you absolutely shot this channel and I find myself looking out for your videos here. Great video again, thanks for sharing.
For South Africa, we ask for the "special option" to delete everything in the exhaust ;-)
This is the thing, it makes no economical sense for the manufacturers to develop different versions of the same car for different markets, at least in the noise-making department. As a result, the cars are getting quieter globally.
This is a genuinely sad video, I remember dreaming of having a car like E63 AMG from 2013 just for its sound... and it's just gonna get worse from now
This is why I bought my 981 GTS when I did. I knew that glorious flat 6 was going away and I needed to get one before they did. So happy I have it, puts a smile on my face every time I start her up. Wouldn't change that sound for the world and I would not buy the modern equivalent, even if it's a little bit quicker/more powerful.
@SUPERBOOM777 I'll call it a her if I want.
I'm just sad. So sad 😔
BUSSO ENGINE LEFT THE CHAT....
just came home from work with my 156 gta 3.2 busso and seen this comment made me laugh
JTDm engine has left as well
Haha indeed, 20V was a blast
This is disheartening, I wouldn't be able to live in the future. Everything is being ruined by these lot!
Or we can keep the current pollution levels and you won't be able to live in future either. Funny, eh?
@Jaggi Singh pb10 wala Who's blaming cars, dimwit? I'm simply defending the regulations.
@@nevarran the regulations are flawed, it's always us drivers getting hit everytime everywhere. And they milk us for more money to drive our cars. For some of a personal car isn't just a car like I guess it is for you. For some of us it's a passion. I love motor vehicles of all ages and my dream garage would have probably a few hundred cars from the ages. Someone who isn't a car guy wouldn't understand. They are the very people who ask a question of a dream car. There isn't one. There are too many dream machines out there which nullifies that very question.
@@tanvirhussain6106 No, they are not flawed. Most of the people on Earth live in cities, where the big concentration of vehicles is a huge health issue. So even if cars make a small percentage of the global emissions, reducing their particles output in the cities will have big impact on human health. And I'm sorry, but if I have to choose between asthma and my car sounding a little worse, I'll gladly choose the latter. I drive an A35 AMG, btw.
@Jaggi Singh pb10 wala If I own a car I don't care for the environment? How old are you, 10?
In America we literally just cut all the emissions equipment off 😂
Because in America you truly are free. But we have the Autobahn, which will eventually die but not yet!
And as we know, America is blatantly disregarding the prospect of Global Warming. Make sure you tell your grandchildren that you cut the emissions sections off your cars, they will hate you even more!
@@latlak - America is one of the least free - just ask any poor person.
They are the slaves that make the billionaires rich. No freedom.
lol even my province in Canada scraped the emissions testing on passenger cars
@@thetessellater9163 that's stupid
I see this as both a blessing and a curse, since I feel like some cars are a little too loud, but this also affects cars that are a bit too quiet. One side wins the other side looses.
Naturally aspirated cls63 best sounding car i’ve ever driven!
James Sheehy 6.2 V8 AMG engine is fantastic 👍🔥
Daniel Sadjadian especially the full fat 500 plus bhp ones
😂 Why is the thumbnail an alfa, that's like the one affordable car that still sounds good
Lol affordable.
Lol "affordable".
I hope your joking that Guilia QV is anything but.
@@samueljones3668 I know it's not pennies but 30k on the used market sounds pretty affordable to me, especially considering it does 190+ stock
@@samueljones3668 If u save up, or wait a few more yrs it's pretty achievable
@@aidan6557 you are going to pay 40k on services in the first months but you will look stunning while doing it😂
So basically the EU screwed it up for everyone. Thanks, EU.
Disappointed, but not surprised.
more like EU saved us all, petrol cars need to desappear asap
@@xfuckingcamperx And let the electric cars take over? Thanks for the genius opinion, snowflake. Ever heard of a diesel generator? Now tell me which one pollutes the earth even more? Petrol cars or all the harmful chemical and pollution caused to produce your cLeAn electric cars? Looks like this lockdown had screwed some of your brains out already
thanks America for screwing cars and putting automatic transmissions on them. I just love manual transmission. Driving an automatic is too boring for me
@@xfuckingcamperx no
The loud roaring sounds of these cars from Mercedes-Benz, Audi and BMW among many other car brands, gave these cars a soul and it was one of the primary reasons for buying these expensive cars. Might as well consider buying cheaper brands now, as those will sound the same, still offer decent looks in the modern era and likely be more fuel efficient. This is very disappointing news. People should force this new law to change through their purchasing decisions like buy more Japanese or American car brands so Europe can perhaps scale back on this new legislation.
Why shouldn't Mercedes, Audi, BMW, Lamborghini, Ferrari, Jaguar, Porsche, Koenigsegg, Bugatti, Lexus, Mustang, Cadillac, Infinity, Corvette, Bently, Alfo Remeo, Dodge, Rolls Royce, McLaren. Tens if not hundreds of thousands of high paying jobs should be destroyed so Ford, Toyota, Kia, Honda, Chevy, Nissan, Subaru, Jeep, have even less competition, for example a brand new honda piolet fully speced out will cost $55,000 you can get a BMW x4 fully optioned out for 58 thousand dollars brand new not to mention nearly all of these "fordable cars brands" own a performance car brand, a luxury car brand or a mix of both, not to mention sound doesn't hurt the environment pollution does, why help these monopolies? Why have less options? Why would you want everyone to have the same car? Please get educated about this topic before you regulate our hobby
Miss the exhaust note of the V10 BMW M5's
It’s time to leave this planet😔. I would rather die than driving a car as if I’m deaf😭.
ITheLoneWolfI I’m not a car guy, as well as most of the population aren’t car people however I don’t see this as a huge deal
@@imjustvibing7268 what it's huge deal for us
IM JUST VIBING as a car guy, I understand the sadness on this topic
Suicide?
Leaving the EU would also do the trick. Either as an Individual or as a country.
I have a mk1 golf with a straight pipe, gonna keep it forever now.
Not quite "forever". It'll be taxed off the road and outright banned in 15 years max.
The lunatics have taking over the asylum! Thank god I have st right through pipes on my old twelve cylinder Ferrari
This video left me feeling more depressed....
Thats why I am sticking to my 2016 Mercedes AMG C63s...Sound is everything to me.
i think i will just keep driving my datsun zed car from the 70s lol
Thanks man!! I was interested in buying a 2020 Ferrari Roma. Luckily i saw this video while i was on the toilet right before i went to make the purchase. So im just going to go with the 2011 Bugatti Veyron for now. Thanks for the heads up!!
Reminder that governments have said in just over 10 years time petrol cars will be banned
Where?
@@0hjaa3.06 I've heard it in the states and europe
LOL Doubt that will happen in most places, just in a few restrictive areas.
They ban the sell of the new ones.
I just wish more politicians understood car culture. It’s incredible easy to drastically change things that you don’t understand and don’t care about, but what would happen if we took away their golf clubs and gave them pool noodles? Wouldn’t be fair now would it?
The PPF isn't really the issue. With a few exceptions, exhaust noise is not the best noise a car makes (especially 4 cylinders) and isn't really audible from inside a closed cabin - It just annoys other people. The main sound a driver enjoys when thrashing a car is the intake sound, and the reason that sucks today is because most modern performance cars are turbocharged but tuned to behave like N/A engines so you get no wastegate noise, no compressor surge, no flutter. You get a dull, muted drone coming from behind 10 layers of sound deadening and it just sucks.
You go compare the honk of a classic N/A 4 cylinder with ITBs to the flat exhaust drone of a modern 4 pot hot hatch and you'll see what I mean.
Emission regulations in Europe are a nutshell
I've never been so hurt by rules since I lived 😭😭
M5 E60 is the BEST sounding car for me🤤❤
Good. If people cannot realise how irritating their loud sounding cars are to others, and if the PPF has the byproduct of reducing noise, I'm all for it.
I live in the countryside and way too many cars pass by the road near my house whose engines are louder than the tyre/aero noise. It's a nono.
Plus you have to remember that noise is wasted energy anyway. Not that ICE is a model of efficiency anyway...
The Mercedes cla 45 sounds like a vacuum. I was very disappointed when I watched a exhaust sound video for that car.