Most people that keep banging on about manual transmissions online are probably kids that have never driven a manual, but rather just parrot what they hear on RUclips channels about how much fun manuals are. I'm sure if these people actually drove a manual in city traffic they would realize how much better automatics or hybrid systems are for everyday use. I'd also go as far as to say that RUclips car reviewers focus to much on manual transmissions and loud exhausts without caring about much else.
Thank you. At least those people are still proving there's demand instead of just complaining about it without actually buying or owning one. It's sad that manuals are going away but the market has spoken and automatics are just more practical. But I'm glad people out there are keeping manuals alive.
@@schunkelperser1794 Lol no, it certainly will not. I like manual cars but let us face it, people just do not want it. Car manufacturers, like any other company fallow the money trail.
@@schunkelperser1794 As long as driving-focused customers exist, we'll still have the manual. However, as long as the automatic exists and continues to evolve and advance further, the manual will continue to grow into more and more of a niche, unfortunately.
Yes, they’re calibrated for autos, but that’s not the point: it’s not about speed (if u wanna go fast obviously get an auto), it’s about having fun. No one actually drives quickly to gain time, they do it for enjoyment. The manual is just another layer to enjoy
What... I don’t know.. I see that those people in F1 are having massive amounts of fun.. Or those in WRC.. I don’t hear any of them complaining about automatics.. Everyone moved on, but only average Joe knows what’s the best, hahaha
I didnt get the ST as soon as i could because the insurrance would have killed me, and i must say that time i tried it i got out of the car with a smile so big it felt like christmas (it was june), and im hella happy with my st-line with all the foot-hand stuff you get to do, but i must say i would have really really liked an ST with paddle shift... or at least try it.
Manual in my Focus RS: would it be faster if they put in a slick automatic transmission in it? Probably. Would you grin like an idiot as much? Probably not.
Yeah. It's just that most people simply don't care about the experience because what they want is a thing to carry them, their family, their pets, and their things from point A to point B. Which is understandable, but still unfortunate for the manual.
@@the_roadbites yeah sure if going to the library floats your boat then absolutely it's a experience some people actually enjoy. Me personally I don't get why you would buy a high performance vehicle assuming you enjoy driving to then have a computer shift your gears for you. You may as well have bought the standard version of that car.
I’ve just bought my first auto, mainly because it’s just so much easier in traffic and overall just so relaxing to drive. It’s been so bloody good, no regrets.
I have a 435d X drive with an 8 speed ZF. Diesel and auto. For a bloke who grew up driving 1970s fords this is a dream car. Can't imagine ever going back to a manual
When you decide to drive manual these days, you throw any concern for being the fastest or most fuel efficient out the window. You focus on driving dynamics and the fun factor, and so for people buying a sports car as a toy, the manual is a necessary checkbox!
Due to being an amputee I drive a dual-clutch Mercedes. Yes, of course I'd prefer a 3 pedal manual but that's never going to happen for me anymore... As with any car, with all the safety/stability settings on, you just hold on & enjoy the ride, modern manuals are the same. Switch the safety/stability settings off & I can guarantee it still takes skill to rag a dual-clutch. Car actually feels alive with ESC off & in manual mode. Still, I've been driving 23 years (with a couple of years off when I lost my leg) & all modern cars feel like valium compared to anything from the 80's & 90's. Anyone here remember manual chokes & carburettors? When you could actually work on your own car without a laptop. No traction/stability controls, no ABS. Those were the days.
@@BobMonkeypimp That's the point buddy. For automatic you need to do stupid things to get some enjoyment. With manual you can enjoy it by smoothly driving on a twisty road. You are involved even on low speed. Of course for people with special needs it is different story, but in general... auto in sports car meeeehhhh... And that 599 is really 5 times better simply because those metal to metal clicks on a Ferrari's gated manual...
@@BenzinioB Paddle shifting isn't too bad, at least with a dual-clutch I still get to choose my gear & if you hold the downshift paddle it'll drop into the lowest possible gear available. I just wish the paddles were mounted to the column & not the wheel. If you saw some of the roads round my way you'd be doing them an injustice if you didn't hoof it occasionally. Three pedal manual will always be more enjoyable, no argument from me there. Want to know my real pet hate with modern cars? No? Well I'm telling you anyway - It's electronic handbrakes.
@@BobMonkeypimp And that is the best description: "Isn't too bad"... And to be honest if I'm taking auto it would be an oldschool torque-converter then dual clutch. Even the best Dual clutch are a little bit jerky at initial start and parking and then is the matter with the reliability. With proper maintenance torque-converter is reliable and if you know what you are doing it is hard to kill a manual... but dual clutch is way too complicated and don't think that few milliseconds faster change is worth the troubles with Dual clutch... And speaking for the modern cars... don't have much problem with e-bake but all those beeping noises for everything are making me mad... it starts with the opening of the door... what the f*** - I know I opened it damned! And then the radar guided things came and the bloody cars are beeping all the time - to close, to far, to fast to slow, the music is to loud, the temperature to low - agggrrrrrrr that "recommendations and warnings are making me really mad... I know I'm aggressively approaching the car in front of me, that is part of the fun - don't bloody beep at me!!! Аnd when suddenly everything become quiet... the auto stop/start came across and cut of the engine for no purpose then making excessive wear of the engine compartments ...
@@philthy941 you are right of course, but it's IMO one of the most underrated cars available and I just love how analog it is. It's a car from a bygone era. Kinda like an modern day F40 and if I had 300k to spend on a car it would be the one I buy.
@@markeldik7057 man that's amazing! That's like... the only supercars that I truly would like to own one day, not saying the other stuff is bad, the mainstream plethora of supercar brands are amazing, but the Noble is something else man (for me)
To drive a manual car properly is the whole point of driving... Blipping those gears and hitting the red line. Autos are definitely taking over but come on, everyone should still be able to drive a manual.
Driving with no ABS, no stability contol/esc used to be the point of driving. That & (as you say) knowing how to properly use a 3 pedal manual. Cars were much more raw when I started driving. The good old days. Alas, as I've said in a couple of comments, I'm now a right leg amputee so I have to drive with a left-foot accelerator adaptation & a dual-clutch auto. They're not bad, definitely nowhere near as much fun as a proper manual but not bad. I generally drive in manual (paddles) mode but switching it to auto is great for long motorway journeys.
Thumbobby Yeah even in an auto I try to left foot brake it feels weird without so.. of course In DE the instructors are going to get pissed but... Hey! Two legs are here for a reason!
Shyam Chander Older Suzukis, Honda, Skodas were fun to drive and you can still get those car cheap if you’re willing to sacrifice all those bells and whistles of newer cars
when talking about last manual m3 and m4 , you said that they arent good when manual because they are engeniered to be automatic, THAT doesnt mean that manual is bad, THAT means they didnt want to calibrate it for manual transmition
This is truly a sad moment in history, while I may only be 17, manual cars are truly the most engaging thing on the planet as it feels like you ARE a component to the car, i’m glad my uncle and his friends who own Porsche’s all have a manual car or two in that arsenal and I also want to thank people who own a manual car out there to
What's weird is that in Europe people buy cheap cars with manual, but in other countries like Russia or America, they don't even offer a manual on cheap cars
@@gekoloniseerd8191 of course, but a good manual always cheers you up. There is a satisfaction banging those gears and heel and toeing. Same like a headshot in Cod
@cannabased When you get the hang of it the continual reward significantly outweighs the guilt from occasionally messing up. Even if you do mess up, you are still probably doing far less damage to your car than if you were always downshifting the normal way.
i really love both... nothing beats the comfort of automatics in start stop traffic...and nothing beats reving out your gear in a manual... so both are great in their own ways
Rory made a great point when it came to the optimisation with DCT in the M cars. Best Dual clutch system I've used +with the PDK coming in very close second). I believe, in general, turbo engines are better when paired with an auto and it doesn't seem like we'll be getting many N/A cars anytime soon
Efficiency is not always the answer. We cook not because we are the best or most efficient but to do it as a hobby, for the challenge, for family bonding, etc. Same for horse riding, fishing, hunting, sewing, growing fruit and veg, raising kids, painting, woodworking, the list goes on. None of them has anything to do with efficiency. But we still enjoy those (except the kids I guess)
I only ride bikes where DCT is becoming more popular but driving(riding) on roads with curves it's such a pain to have to wait for the engine to pick up because it's not in gear. And yes DCT is better and makes new riders look like champs which is great for the manufacturer. But I myself get a sense of joy by nailing the up and downshift with blips of the throttle or not having to use the clutch on upshifts without a quick shifter when you nail it jussssst right. I might not be as fast but who are we kidding here? The whole process of learning how to engine break has saved my bum a few times. And also being able to jump-start the machine in a tricky situation can not be done with DCT. Plus the noise engines make with these automatic 7 or 8-speed transmissions is just ghastly, the fake fart noise with no actual haptic feedback, it all feels so sterile. If you want to feel nothing take the bus, I get auto's for grocery getters or GT cruisers but for a sports vehicle, it's more engaging to row your own gears. The clutch is not only there to change gears but also to do all kinds of tricks or rev changes that are just not possible with an auto.
I hated the idea of an automatic, I only adopted it when as the result of an injury. I wouldn't go back, it's a lot less stressful to drive, if someone does something stupid all I need to do is hit the brake pedal, if someone is being slow I've paddles or if the gearbox is feeling responsive I don't even need to touch them. They come a long way, and you're spot on all the systems now work together.
You can still just hit the brake in a manual, you know. Driving a manual is not difficult. We all managed to do it for decades before auto became more popular. I find rowing my own gears much less stressful land much more cathartic, I’m in control of the car.
@@terribletelevision6980 You can use your eyes and read, you know. I adopted an automatic because of an injury. I managed to do it for 7-8 years but can no longer drive a manual safely.
You can still get a Mustang, a Miata, the new BMW M3, and a 911 with a manual. No, they are not dead. There will always be a very niche market of sports cars that offer a stick.
manual sports cars only work with NA engines IMO. Just like the M3, the problem is a manual gearbox would force you to lift off the throttle, and lose the turbo boost. That's why modern turbos work better with automatics. NA engines rev higher so it makes each shift that much more rewarding as a manual. but as we know, NA engines are on the way out too
I completely agree. So my daughter is 17 next week and I have got a car for her birthday, we discussed what car to get and we agreed the a auto is the way forward! Because when she is old enough. She will buy electric or hybrid! So a Toyota Aygo is what we are getting, same price as manual used. Also it will make learning to drive so much easier. As you don’t even have to learn clutch control. Anyway our family car is a XC90 auto! Why would you buy a manual in todays roads, busy always roads works on motorways. City’s are never free moving traffic. Auto all day long. Manuals are for Sunday’s and high days. I love the tactile experience you get from changing gears. Great vid.
At Supercars I can understand it. But normal sporty cars should always have a manual gearbox to choose from. Unfortunately, the addiction of customers, for best times in accelerating ect. is greater than driving pleasure. Which in my opinion is only possible in the manual. As an operator and not as a passenger, the car does everything.
Your thesis is highly logical. You do a splendid job of supporting it with data. It does seem that an automatic gearbox makes more sense for 'green' vehicles. I was maybe just little surprised to hear that it's actually we Americans who seem to be more of the manual gearbox enthusiasts. Even before watching this, it seemed intuitive to me that if one buys a car with a manual gearbox that's it's properly paired with a more traditional gasoline powered internal combustion engine. That's just what I think. This has been some insight that you've provided for some of us for whom this might have some sentimental value. Thanks
For enthusiast cars the manual will always be present. For average cars doing dd stuff, theres no point of it. I´m just happy my cars are manual, that way, thay have some kind of future value. The few manual M cars sold will hold their value far better than the autos, which will be scrapped because of too high repair costs when the box shits itself after 15 years.
Manuals have a legit fighting chance because so many manufacturers keep using those cvt’s lol. No one who cares about actually buying a car wants the cvt
Yes. It matters. I would only buy a sports car with a manual. It's a lot more engaging. I have an IS300 with a manual gearbox, and an Acura TSX with paddle shifters, and I prefer the IS300 each time because it's the most fun I've had daily driving a car at legal speed limits. In the Acura, I have to drive twice as fast to feel any excitement.
@ScryTv this is correct. THE ONLY purpose of manual is for the fun on shifting yourself, feels like youre engaged with the car, controlling it directly the mechanical way. But in every single other respect, automatic nowadays are miles better than manual.
Personally I love the experience I got from manual gearboxes, the way you are involved in the process, especially if you are having fun cornering. Also I may add, when I got used to my car no automatic could match the low consumption I got from it, I had the opportunity to compare it. But for day to day driving to work and back I am glad I switched to automatic, it's a completely different experience when you are in traffic stuck for 20minutes. I still have fun cornering with the paddle shifters, it's not the same of course because you are not as involved, but the fun is there!
I am auto all the way because how often will you encounter a fun back road with barely any traffic. Most people will either be in start stop traffic in town or on a motorway. Is it really worth a manual as automatic cars are getting more in demand so they would hold there value slightly better.
That clutch pedal joke gave me a chuckle, glad to see that there are Americans who drive stick! Most everyone I know has or still does drive a vehicle with a manual, I myself hope to be in the same boat soon
Manual shifts provide an extra challenge for me. It's sure more engaging to drive than an automatic. If I drive from point A to point B I don't really care, but there's something satisfying with operating the clutch, shifting the gear with a stick, doing rev-matching all while focusing on your braking and corner approach. Sure, automatic transmissions are easier/faster and make much more sense with any form of electric or hybridization. Compare it to streaming your music online or listening to a vinyl record. One of them is much easier and faster, but there's something about analog that has a sense of occasion. It's much more engaging.
I can safely say I'd never buy a Manuel ever again, automatic,s are far easier to live with in everyday driving, especially when u are in congested traffic u cannot beat the auto transmission 😉.. love your videos Rory keep the content coming 👍👍
Until it has an electronic spaz attack and costs a fortune to repair or worse yet the whole transmission dies and leaves a £4000 repair bill. On a manual new clutch is £400-£500 and can last 200k miles +, a flywheel is double the price of a clutch but never goes wrong usually unless you drive like a total twat all the time. I'll stick to my reliable transmission that will never go wrong. I'll also enjoy better fuel economy and actually having control of my car.
In my opinion the fiat 500 hybrid manual situation is not that bad: that system is not like a Toyota hybrid system, it’s mild and it’s goal is not to help you get some crazy efficiency numbers, it’s to give you that little electric boost where the small naturally aspirated engine can’t. If you think about it the start and stop system works just about the same as normal start and stop systems on manual cars so you don’t have to do some extra steps to make it work. (I have a manual mild-hybrid cx-30, it has a similar system and I don’t find it weird at all).
for me, i used to hate autos, always went manual. but since owning my 335d semi auto which i use in auto most of the time, it's really changed how i look at them
Drove stick for my first 3 cars I bought, got a GTD DSG equipped car this year, never looking back just so much more convenience being able to just sit back and slam the throttle without worrying about the gears. Also love, love, love the auto cruise control system when in traffic. You can Still have fun though in a semi auto hot hatch however.
All my Astons are manual, V12SM, GT8, V12 Roadster as well as my Morgan 3W. Fun from all of them and not seen again. Thank goodness Aston has kept manual option in new Vantage.
First as an American, I found your comment about us and manuals highly offensive. This is because it’s true. 😂 🤣 😆 I am looking at a couple of older cars and that’s the reason for wanting a manual. Automatic transmission were terrible till recently. Now I would only buy an automatic for a daily.
As a manual die hard enthusiast, I finally got my hands on my e92 (not more than 5 in the whole country) and it will be the last one. I crave a G80 Comp XDrive and I'm ditching my dream car (992 Turbo or GT3) for a Taycan Cross Turismo. I think this is because of nostalgia, but also when business starts to deliver and money begins to flow, you want to feel the new, the better and the instant torque of electric overcomes all the goodies in petrol cars. RIP manuals, I'll keep my e92 just to have available the feeling, but certainly it will be driven less as times passes.
We’re a couple of outliers I guess: American & been buying cars with a manual gearbox since 2000. Right now we’re both driving a manual MINI Cooper S, our second set of MINIs. We just prefer manuals & will continue to buy them as long as they’re available.
As a hardcore manual purist, I agree, driving a manual on a daily basis can be a pain. They work really well with high revving cars though. Something about that combination is just magical. Changing gears at 7000rpm or 8000rpm is a sexual experience. Timing the change just right as you approach a bend makes you feel like a God. Auto's just eliminate that connection even though you are going faster. Some auto's in performance cars make you feel like you are talking to your best friend on Zoom. Some manuals make you feel like you are talking to your best friend face to face
Driving a people carrier SUV or van automatic all the way but for fun manual. You feel connected with the car, to change gear at 5500 RPMs and hear the engine and exhaust sing to you, that's why you get a manual.
I still have my manual Nissan S15 Silvia that I bought 15 years ago in addition to my auto daily driver because I just can’t live without that visceral control that you get from a car with 3 pedals. I will mourn the death of the best type of gearbox. Luckily we can still buy old cars! Silly video of my S15 on my channel if you are interested. Keep up the awesome work, Rory. Love your videos.
Speed management,power efficiency, engagement,anti-theft,offroad,easier to fix,fuel efficiency,better with heavy loads,better on snow,gravel,bumps,corners,hills,rev matching, requires skills... Only reason to go Auto is either your lazy, boring or cant drive.grandmas and babies drive Autos
Dunno about the efficiency comments, I had a mk6 golf gtd and got aroung 70 mMPG on a run, now I have mk7 golf R line Diesel and struggle to get 55 MPG, That one is a win for the manual.
I would buy a manual if I could drive it, but can’t due to partial loss of strength and motor control in my left leg. I still prefer a manual but have never driven a car with a DCT. Thanks for posting this video.
I have driven DCT cars for years and won't go back to a manual gearbox. It just makes driving simpler. And being disabled with problems with my left leg, the one I would use with the clutch, reverting to a manual would stop me driving.
I agree with basically everything you said, even as a manual enthusiast. I would say though on high performance, we should ask ourselves, is the joy of driving an extra half second off 0-60, or optimized boost from the turbo? A manual adds to the pleasure of driving a car in a sporting way. We shouldn't view our street cars like an F1 engineer, chasing performance at the cost of pleasure. But in terms of who spends the money on these things, they don't care about driving, they want bragging rights, and to use their ridiculous performance for cruising around, or going shopping. So yes, manuals are dead in performance cars, but it's not because they improve performance or driving pleasure, it's because people that buy new cars aren't interested in "extra work".
For everyday daily driving I really don’t understand why anyone would get a manual but for a sports car like a MX-5 that your mainly going to have some fun on the backroads with then a manual makes perfect sense. As for super cars I can understand why manuals have died off as the powertrains are more complex and powerful than ever before, you could never get close to the advertised 0-60 in a manual vs an automatic in those cars.
Mazda (and I think BMW) have gotten a manual to work with auto-stop, but will other makes make the same effort? There is also the problem of having to certify the emissions of both the auto and manual version of cars (if they offer a manual.). Best look around now (new or used) if you want to get a late-model car with a manual.
In cars I'm mildly annoyed by taking the hand off the wheel but more so by the few laggy automatic i know. In motorcycles i would not wanna miss shifting and don't mind it. 3000rpm.responsible. Downshift once or twice, lets go. It's a whole mood.
I haven't driven a autobox till now. Floor shifters and column shifters with manuals are the only things I have driven till now. Would like to experience a automatic once
I like my stickshift and want to get a manual WRX next. I enjoy shifting gears just to kill the monotony of driving. That said automatics and EVs are looking good and work well and you get plenty of options.
In the "old days" an automatic was a luxury option and only available in certain brands/ranges. The current situation is an evolution to the other way round. Manuals won't disappear altogether - they'll just become a luxury niche only found in certain types of vehicle and only from a limited selection of manufacturers!
I always preferred manual gearboxes as they were more reliable than automatics when buying a used car. However, I am thinking that for the next used car I may look at an automatic one since reliability has improved a lot during the decade of manufacturing.
Lotus, Porsche and Aston are the only companies I can recall still offering supersports cars with manuals and I get the feeling that's gonna continue to decline again yet still. Audi and Mercedes have put the nail in it and given the fact that superminis are being knocked on the head. That's another nail. Manuals and NA engines are gonna continue to become fewer and farther between, but we already knew that so..
Like you said gear boxes are dying out, Auto and Manual (Thank's Tesla) The problem we have now is that most people either want to emulate the best drivers in the world, Unfortunately not Journalist, but racing drivers. The other problem is that people are enjoying some kind of automated driving, such as active cruise control. I for one would never buy a manual again, but I hate to see the demise of anything that is popular to some. I think everyone like me has seen that happen to something they love, for me it was GT's like Jenson Interceptor, Bristol 411 and Volvo P1800. Now all you have in the luxury sector is sports cars like the new Mclaren GT, with just a GT badge. I feel your pain.
The problem is that people think that manuals are for sports cars when is really a daily driver thing. The problem its that manifactures dont promote the cheaper manual versions of everyday cars
If the manual stops being produced I'll build one in myself. Idc what anyone says, I love driving manuals. And no, I'm not an oldhead, I'm 20 years old. I just like to have full control of the car and I'm good at it.
I enjoy rev matching and manually shifting my Miata-wouldn’t have it any other way. It’s only in traffic jams where it gets tiring, but then again, traffic jams are annoying anyway. I hope manuals will be around for a long time in enthusiast cars. It’s just another piece to the fun of driving, and the challenge to get your throttle blips just right just right every time simply makes it more rewarding.
Switching to Neutral and letting the clutch pedal go is a completely normal routine for everyone who paid attention during driving school. That’s the way it should be done for all longer stops. Not sure why Rory doesn’t seem to like it, but it’s the easiest and best way to implement a stop-start system to any vehicle. It does require a tiny little bit of driver attention, but if you’d rather pay attention to sport modes and launch controls and other bullshit like that, please do so.
What's your favourite manual car on sale today? ⬇️
718 GT4 or Spyder
718 GTS
Mazda m x 5
Gti
981 gt4
Manual car in production: no one bat's an eye
Manual car discontinued: *demand 📈*
I prefer a six speed manual gearbox
We all don't know what we have until it's gone.
Exactly and that’s how it is with almost all manual cars. So sad. :-(
So true haha
Most people that keep banging on about manual transmissions online are probably kids that have never driven a manual, but rather just parrot what they hear on RUclips channels about how much fun manuals are. I'm sure if these people actually drove a manual in city traffic they would realize how much better automatics or hybrid systems are for everyday use.
I'd also go as far as to say that RUclips car reviewers focus to much on manual transmissions and loud exhausts without caring about much else.
Props to porsche and the people who actually buy manuals
Thank you. At least those people are still proving there's demand instead of just complaining about it without actually buying or owning one.
It's sad that manuals are going away but the market has spoken and automatics are just more practical. But I'm glad people out there are keeping manuals alive.
The Manual will rise again ✊
@@schunkelperser1794 Lol no, it certainly will not. I like manual cars but let us face it, people just do not want it. Car manufacturers, like any other company fallow the money trail.
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As long as driving-focused customers exist, we'll still have the manual. However, as long as the automatic exists and continues to evolve and advance further, the manual will continue to grow into more and more of a niche, unfortunately.
I like rowing my own gears ⚙️. But not on my daily car. (:
Yes, they’re calibrated for autos, but that’s not the point: it’s not about speed (if u wanna go fast obviously get an auto), it’s about having fun. No one actually drives quickly to gain time, they do it for enjoyment. The manual is just another layer to enjoy
well said. the point has been missed.
But the people who drive the market are not social drivers but every day drivers/ commuters/ workers.
I agree and when I drove an AMG car for the first time. I decided automatic transmissions were fine.
What... I don’t know.. I see that those people in F1 are having massive amounts of fun.. Or those in WRC.. I don’t hear any of them complaining about automatics.. Everyone moved on, but only average Joe knows what’s the best, hahaha
miliardo I’m not saying u can’t have fun with an auto. Professional drivers are the exception: they actually have to race, fast.
Shout out to the Ford Fiesta ST, Toyota Yaris GR4, Honda Civic Type R are all still manual exclusive still in 2020.
I didnt get the ST as soon as i could because the insurrance would have killed me, and i must say that time i tried it i got out of the car with a smile so big it felt like christmas (it was june), and im hella happy with my st-line with all the foot-hand stuff you get to do, but i must say i would have really really liked an ST with paddle shift... or at least try it.
Don't forget the Renault Megane RS
Ford in The States: We don't do that here.
Also the Opel Corsa GSi
Ford fiesta and Honda civic are both trash cars , facts
In the USA, stick is a anti-theft device for millennial car thieves.
I’m a millennial and I don’t like automatic cars, so I wouldn’t say this is totally true.
In America it is
They usually burn or vandalize manual vehicles in the U.S.
Lool! I wouldn't be surprised if this is true!
@@ryanmichael6733 wait.. but are you a thief though?
Manual in my Focus RS: would it be faster if they put in a slick automatic transmission in it? Probably. Would you grin like an idiot as much? Probably not.
it not dead but it going to hard to get since waiting list would go for years....
Manual gear boxes are just so much more fun, Sad that this driving experience is being lost in a lot of modern cars.
Thats like saying shame the experience of a library is being lost due to wikipedia
@@the_roadbites But who enjoys going to the library?
Yeah.
It's just that most people simply don't care about the experience because what they want is a thing to carry them, their family, their pets, and their things from point A to point B.
Which is understandable, but still unfortunate for the manual.
@@the_roadbites yeah sure if going to the library floats your boat then absolutely it's a experience some people actually enjoy. Me personally I don't get why you would buy a high performance vehicle assuming you enjoy driving to then have a computer shift your gears for you. You may as well have bought the standard version of that car.
Not if you are in constant jams. If they could do a hybrid box...
I’ve just bought my first auto, mainly because it’s just so much easier in traffic and overall just so relaxing to drive. It’s been so bloody good, no regrets.
I also prefer auto.
I have a 435d X drive with an 8 speed ZF. Diesel and auto. For a bloke who grew up driving 1970s fords this is a dream car. Can't imagine ever going back to a manual
And bam you stop focusing on driving so much and end up in a crash.
Happened often enough that way
Everyone says it so much easier when manual is effortless
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thats not how autos work...
When you decide to drive manual these days, you throw any concern for being the fastest or most fuel efficient out the window. You focus on driving dynamics and the fun factor, and so for people buying a sports car as a toy, the manual is a necessary checkbox!
Manuals feel like you're actually driving the car and automatics drive the car for you, you're just controlling the direction.
Yep you just hanging on for dear life.
Due to being an amputee I drive a dual-clutch Mercedes. Yes, of course I'd prefer a 3 pedal manual but that's never going to happen for me anymore... As with any car, with all the safety/stability settings on, you just hold on & enjoy the ride, modern manuals are the same. Switch the safety/stability settings off & I can guarantee it still takes skill to rag a dual-clutch. Car actually feels alive with ESC off & in manual mode.
Still, I've been driving 23 years (with a couple of years off when I lost my leg) & all modern cars feel like valium compared to anything from the 80's & 90's. Anyone here remember manual chokes & carburettors? When you could actually work on your own car without a laptop. No traction/stability controls, no ABS. Those were the days.
@@BobMonkeypimp That's the point buddy. For automatic you need to do stupid things to get some enjoyment. With manual you can enjoy it by smoothly driving on a twisty road. You are involved even on low speed.
Of course for people with special needs it is different story, but in general... auto in sports car meeeehhhh... And that 599 is really 5 times better simply because those metal to metal clicks on a Ferrari's gated manual...
@@BenzinioB Paddle shifting isn't too bad, at least with a dual-clutch I still get to choose my gear & if you hold the downshift paddle it'll drop into the lowest possible gear available. I just wish the paddles were mounted to the column & not the wheel. If you saw some of the roads round my way you'd be doing them an injustice if you didn't hoof it occasionally.
Three pedal manual will always be more enjoyable, no argument from me there.
Want to know my real pet hate with modern cars? No? Well I'm telling you anyway - It's electronic handbrakes.
@@BobMonkeypimp And that is the best description: "Isn't too bad"...
And to be honest if I'm taking auto it would be an oldschool torque-converter then dual clutch. Even the best Dual clutch are a little bit jerky at initial start and parking and then is the matter with the reliability. With proper maintenance torque-converter is reliable and if you know what you are doing it is hard to kill a manual... but dual clutch is way too complicated and don't think that few milliseconds faster change is worth the troubles with Dual clutch...
And speaking for the modern cars... don't have much problem with e-bake but all those beeping noises for everything are making me mad... it starts with the opening of the door... what the f*** - I know I opened it damned! And then the radar guided things came and the bloody cars are beeping all the time - to close, to far, to fast to slow, the music is to loud, the temperature to low - agggrrrrrrr that "recommendations and warnings are making me really mad... I know I'm aggressively approaching the car in front of me, that is part of the fun - don't bloody beep at me!!!
Аnd when suddenly everything become quiet... the auto stop/start came across and cut of the engine for no purpose then making excessive wear of the engine compartments ...
Noble m600 still uses a manual, and it's still crazy fast compared to anything available.
@@philthy941 you are right of course, but it's IMO one of the most underrated cars available and I just love how analog it is. It's a car from a bygone era. Kinda like an modern day F40 and if I had 300k to spend on a car it would be the one I buy.
It's a hyper car level performer
The Noble M600 is still in production today? O_O
@@aneudysc yep, but in very small numbers. They are working on an m500, but it's been ages since I've read anything new about it.
@@markeldik7057 man that's amazing! That's like... the only supercars that I truly would like to own one day, not saying the other stuff is bad, the mainstream plethora of supercar brands are amazing, but the Noble is something else man (for me)
To drive a manual car properly is the whole point of driving... Blipping those gears and hitting the red line. Autos are definitely taking over but come on, everyone should still be able to drive a manual.
Driving with no ABS, no stability contol/esc used to be the point of driving. That & (as you say) knowing how to properly use a 3 pedal manual. Cars were much more raw when I started driving. The good old days.
Alas, as I've said in a couple of comments, I'm now a right leg amputee so I have to drive with a left-foot accelerator adaptation & a dual-clutch auto. They're not bad, definitely nowhere near as much fun as a proper manual but not bad. I generally drive in manual (paddles) mode but switching it to auto is great for long motorway journeys.
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Thumbobby Yeah even in an auto I try to left foot brake it feels weird without so.. of course In DE the instructors are going to get pissed but... Hey! Two legs are here for a reason!
"the whole point of driving" is getting from where you are to where you want to be. Unless you're a neurotic.
@@prometheus9443 Playing with your matchbox toys isn't driving.
The world: Stickshifts are dead...
INDIA: Welcome to INDIA
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Found the comment. Lol
Bro cars available in India are underpowered overpriced piece of shit
@@vsschander please mention some nicely powered and well priced cars
Shyam Chander Older Suzukis, Honda, Skodas were fun to drive and you can still get those car cheap if you’re willing to sacrifice all those bells and whistles of newer cars
I don't want Manuals to go. Who am I going to laugh at when nobody can stall their car at a stop light.
Oh, I see. You drive an auto
I bet you're cant drive manual for life..😂
@@athish5368 I bet you can't drive a car 😂
@@idknils2920 Dumbass..I drive a renault dacia manual ..I guess u must be bored by driving a automatic and defending those whom loves stick shifting.
@@athish5368 a Dacia. Poor.
when talking about last manual m3 and m4 , you said that they arent good when manual because they are engeniered to be automatic, THAT doesnt mean that manual is bad, THAT means they didnt want to calibrate it for manual transmition
This is truly a sad moment in history, while I may only be 17, manual cars are truly the most engaging thing on the planet as it feels like you ARE a component to the car, i’m glad my uncle and his friends who own Porsche’s all have a manual car or two in that arsenal and I also want to thank people who own a manual car out there to
Manual will always be the best, the funniest and the cheapest
Exactly
What's weird is that in Europe people buy cheap cars with manual, but in other countries like Russia or America, they don't even offer a manual on cheap cars
Agreed, unless you're stuck in traffic, and in that case I find manuals are a pain. Pressing the clutch 50 times to do 50 metres is a tad irritating.
Manuals will always be the slowest, old fashioned and cheap (thats bad).
@@gekoloniseerd8191 of course, but a good manual always cheers you up. There is a satisfaction banging those gears and heel and toeing.
Same like a headshot in Cod
Doing a rev match for yourself on a manual is entirely different than letting a computer do it for u .
@cannabased When you get the hang of it the continual reward significantly outweighs the guilt from occasionally messing up. Even if you do mess up, you are still probably doing far less damage to your car than if you were always downshifting the normal way.
The Tiff Needell yawn just cracked me :D :D
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I'm in my 50s and never owned an automatic. Although, as i get older i am beginning to find myself drawn towards an automatic as my next car.
Manuals are dying, the automatic gearboxes have gotten too good both on the track and daily driving.
i really love both... nothing beats the comfort of automatics in start stop traffic...and nothing beats reving out your gear in a manual... so both are great in their own ways
Rory made a great point when it came to the optimisation with DCT in the M cars. Best Dual clutch system I've used +with the PDK coming in very close second). I believe, in general, turbo engines are better when paired with an auto and it doesn't seem like we'll be getting many N/A cars anytime soon
Efficiency is not always the answer. We cook not because we are the best or most efficient but to do it as a hobby, for the challenge, for family bonding, etc. Same for horse riding, fishing, hunting, sewing, growing fruit and veg, raising kids, painting, woodworking, the list goes on. None of them has anything to do with efficiency. But we still enjoy those (except the kids I guess)
Manual is outdated, It's like wanting an analogue watch when there are digital watches available. Automatic is better than manual.
There's still great Manual driver cars. Civic Type R, TVR Griffith, Noble M600, Lotus Evora, Elise, Exige.
subaru, old evos, old suvs, toyota pickups.
TVR Griffith? Lol that's never coming out
@@Scotracer1987 it's planned for this year. TVR is now partly owned by the Welsh government
They will also slowly disappear. Unfortunately.
I only ride bikes where DCT is becoming more popular but driving(riding) on roads with curves it's such a pain to have to wait for the engine to pick up because it's not in gear. And yes DCT is better and makes new riders look like champs which is great for the manufacturer. But I myself get a sense of joy by nailing the up and downshift with blips of the throttle or not having to use the clutch on upshifts without a quick shifter when you nail it jussssst right. I might not be as fast but who are we kidding here? The whole process of learning how to engine break has saved my bum a few times. And also being able to jump-start the machine in a tricky situation can not be done with DCT. Plus the noise engines make with these automatic 7 or 8-speed transmissions is just ghastly, the fake fart noise with no actual haptic feedback, it all feels so sterile. If you want to feel nothing take the bus, I get auto's for grocery getters or GT cruisers but for a sports vehicle, it's more engaging to row your own gears. The clutch is not only there to change gears but also to do all kinds of tricks or rev changes that are just not possible with an auto.
I hated the idea of an automatic, I only adopted it when as the result of an injury.
I wouldn't go back, it's a lot less stressful to drive, if someone does something stupid all I need to do is hit the brake pedal, if someone is being slow I've paddles or if the gearbox is feeling responsive I don't even need to touch them.
They come a long way, and you're spot on all the systems now work together.
You can still just hit the brake in a manual, you know. Driving a manual is not difficult. We all managed to do it for decades before auto became more popular. I find rowing my own gears much less stressful land much more cathartic, I’m in control of the car.
@@terribletelevision6980 You can use your eyes and read, you know. I adopted an automatic because of an injury. I managed to do it for 7-8 years but can no longer drive a manual safely.
You can still get a Mustang, a Miata, the new BMW M3, and a 911 with a manual. No, they are not dead. There will always be a very niche market of sports cars that offer a stick.
I find myself liking Rory videos before I watch them "love from S.Africa)
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manual sports cars only work with NA engines IMO. Just like the M3, the problem is a manual gearbox would force you to lift off the throttle, and lose the turbo boost. That's why modern turbos work better with automatics. NA engines rev higher so it makes each shift that much more rewarding as a manual. but as we know, NA engines are on the way out too
I completely agree. So my daughter is 17 next week and I have got a car for her birthday, we discussed what car to get and we agreed the a auto is the way forward! Because when she is old enough. She will buy electric or hybrid! So a Toyota Aygo is what we are getting, same price as manual used. Also it will make learning to drive so much easier. As you don’t even have to learn clutch control. Anyway our family car is a XC90 auto! Why would you buy a manual in todays roads, busy always roads works on motorways. City’s are never free moving traffic. Auto all day long.
Manuals are for Sunday’s and high days. I love the tactile experience you get from changing gears. Great vid.
At Supercars I can understand it. But normal sporty cars should always have a manual gearbox to choose from. Unfortunately, the addiction of customers, for best times in accelerating ect. is greater than driving pleasure. Which in my opinion is only possible in the manual. As an operator and not as a passenger, the car does everything.
Auto's all day long now Rory , Modern Technology is so much better . You're so right in everything here 👍
Your thesis is highly logical. You do a splendid job of supporting it with data. It does seem that an automatic gearbox makes more sense for 'green' vehicles. I was maybe just little surprised to hear that it's actually we Americans who seem to be more of the manual gearbox enthusiasts. Even before watching this, it seemed intuitive to me that if one buys a car with a manual gearbox that's it's properly paired with a more traditional gasoline powered internal combustion engine. That's just what I think. This has been some insight that you've provided for some of us for whom this might have some sentimental value. Thanks
For enthusiast cars the manual will always be present. For average cars doing dd stuff, theres no point of it. I´m just happy my cars are manual, that way, thay have some kind of future value. The few manual M cars sold will hold their value far better than the autos, which will be scrapped because of too high repair costs when the box shits itself after 15 years.
Manuals have a legit fighting chance because so many manufacturers keep using those cvt’s lol. No one who cares about actually buying a car wants the cvt
No, they aren't dead. Don't give manufacturers anymore stupid ideas please.
Yes. It matters. I would only buy a sports car with a manual. It's a lot more engaging. I have an IS300 with a manual gearbox, and an Acura TSX with paddle shifters, and I prefer the IS300 each time because it's the most fun I've had daily driving a car at legal speed limits. In the Acura, I have to drive twice as fast to feel any excitement.
Any m4 owners wanna chime in on his manual comment? Are the 6mt m4’s really that bad compared to the dct version?
No one wants to bother with shifting gears when paying M4 money, its just a chore..
@@TheKacper2001 Actually my dad does
@@abalakrishnan4152 Has he ever driven an automatic?
@ScryTv this is correct. THE ONLY purpose of manual is for the fun on shifting yourself, feels like youre engaged with the car, controlling it directly the mechanical way. But in every single other respect, automatic nowadays are miles better than manual.
@@TheKacper2001 It's not an M4, but there are people who pay that type of money for a manual transmission.
As long as it has an engine, i want a manual before it isnt posseble anymore
R.I.P Manual Gearbox.😔😔
Personally I love the experience I got from manual gearboxes, the way you are involved in the process, especially if you are having fun cornering.
Also I may add, when I got used to my car no automatic could match the low consumption I got from it, I had the opportunity to compare it.
But for day to day driving to work and back I am glad I switched to automatic, it's a completely different experience when you are in traffic stuck for 20minutes.
I still have fun cornering with the paddle shifters, it's not the same of course because you are not as involved, but the fun is there!
I am auto all the way because how often will you encounter a fun back road with barely any traffic. Most people will either be in start stop traffic in town or on a motorway. Is it really worth a manual as automatic cars are getting more in demand so they would hold there value slightly better.
That clutch pedal joke gave me a chuckle, glad to see that there are Americans who drive stick! Most everyone I know has or still does drive a vehicle with a manual, I myself hope to be in the same boat soon
I have to buy a manual before it's too late!
Manual shifts provide an extra challenge for me. It's sure more engaging to drive than an automatic. If I drive from point A to point B I don't really care, but there's something satisfying with operating the clutch, shifting the gear with a stick, doing rev-matching all while focusing on your braking and corner approach. Sure, automatic transmissions are easier/faster and make much more sense with any form of electric or hybridization. Compare it to streaming your music online or listening to a vinyl record. One of them is much easier and faster, but there's something about analog that has a sense of occasion. It's much more engaging.
I switched I miss Manuel
But hey got to move wiv the times
Porsche is truly the greatest sports car ever made!
the new 2021 Modell M3 / M4 come with a Manual.
I can safely say I'd never buy a Manuel ever again, automatic,s are far easier to live with in everyday driving, especially when u are in congested traffic u cannot beat the auto transmission 😉.. love your videos Rory keep the content coming 👍👍
Until it has an electronic spaz attack and costs a fortune to repair or worse yet the whole transmission dies and leaves a £4000 repair bill. On a manual new clutch is £400-£500 and can last 200k miles +, a flywheel is double the price of a clutch but never goes wrong usually unless you drive like a total twat all the time. I'll stick to my reliable transmission that will never go wrong. I'll also enjoy better fuel economy and actually having control of my car.
Whatever you are paying Rory - it's not enough!!!! A superb delivery that is all his own - brilliant.
In my opinion the fiat 500 hybrid manual situation is not that bad: that system is not like a Toyota hybrid system, it’s mild and it’s goal is not to help you get some crazy efficiency numbers, it’s to give you that little electric boost where the small naturally aspirated engine can’t. If you think about it the start and stop system works just about the same as normal start and stop systems on manual cars so you don’t have to do some extra steps to make it work. (I have a manual mild-hybrid cx-30, it has a similar system and I don’t find it weird at all).
For "normal" cars I think manuals are dead and I'm OK with it. Luckily Porsche is still there for a fun weekend car.
But few people can afford a Porsche
for me, i used to hate autos, always went manual. but since owning my 335d semi auto which i use in auto most of the time, it's really changed how i look at them
Manuals on B roads, autos in traffic. Overall manual for me for old school feeling.
I have a 2016 Audi s5 with a manual gearbox. The most fun I've had driving any car
Drove stick for my first 3 cars I bought, got a GTD DSG equipped car this year, never looking back just so much more convenience being able to just sit back and slam the throttle without worrying about the gears. Also love, love, love the auto cruise control system when in traffic.
You can Still have fun though in a semi auto hot hatch however.
All my Astons are manual, V12SM, GT8, V12 Roadster as well as my Morgan 3W. Fun from all of them and not seen again. Thank goodness Aston has kept manual option in new Vantage.
Just enjoy the F21 M140i manual RWD while you can. Just don't forget to equip it with a mechanical lim/slip-differential.
Ive got an 8 speed ZF and can't imagine ever going back to a manual car.
Problem with 718 manual is long gears, u have to spend like 10g to upgrade for shorts
First as an American, I found your comment about us and manuals highly offensive. This is because it’s true. 😂 🤣 😆
I am looking at a couple of older cars and that’s the reason for wanting a manual. Automatic transmission were terrible till recently. Now I would only buy an automatic for a daily.
As a manual die hard enthusiast, I finally got my hands on my e92 (not more than 5 in the whole country) and it will be the last one. I crave a G80 Comp XDrive and I'm ditching my dream car (992 Turbo or GT3) for a Taycan Cross Turismo. I think this is because of nostalgia, but also when business starts to deliver and money begins to flow, you want to feel the new, the better and the instant torque of electric overcomes all the goodies in petrol cars. RIP manuals, I'll keep my e92 just to have available the feeling, but certainly it will be driven less as times passes.
We’re a couple of outliers I guess: American & been buying cars with a manual gearbox since 2000. Right now we’re both driving a manual MINI Cooper S, our second set of MINIs. We just prefer manuals & will continue to buy them as long as they’re available.
Manual for me, more driver involvement 👍🏻
As a hardcore manual purist, I agree, driving a manual on a daily basis can be a pain. They work really well with high revving cars though. Something about that combination is just magical. Changing gears at 7000rpm or 8000rpm is a sexual experience. Timing the change just right as you approach a bend makes you feel like a God. Auto's just eliminate that connection even though you are going faster. Some auto's in performance cars make you feel like you are talking to your best friend on Zoom. Some manuals make you feel like you are talking to your best friend face to face
Driving a people carrier SUV or van automatic all the way but for fun manual. You feel connected with the car, to change gear at 5500 RPMs and hear the engine and exhaust sing to you, that's why you get a manual.
I still have my manual Nissan S15 Silvia that I bought 15 years ago in addition to my auto daily driver because I just can’t live without that visceral control that you get from a car with 3 pedals. I will mourn the death of the best type of gearbox. Luckily we can still buy old cars! Silly video of my S15 on my channel if you are interested. Keep up the awesome work, Rory. Love your videos.
Automatic is best. The only reason to go manual is cost.
Speed management,power efficiency, engagement,anti-theft,offroad,easier to fix,fuel efficiency,better with heavy loads,better on snow,gravel,bumps,corners,hills,rev matching, requires skills...
Only reason to go Auto is either your lazy, boring or cant drive.grandmas and babies drive Autos
@@REDBERRET1916 lol cope
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Great topic and discussion.
I just boughtt a old manual 1.3 l hatchback from mazda and it feels so fun to revv it
Dunno about the efficiency comments, I had a mk6 golf gtd and got aroung 70 mMPG on a run, now I have mk7 golf R line Diesel and struggle to get 55 MPG, That one is a win for the manual.
I would buy a manual if I could drive it, but can’t due to partial loss of strength and motor control in my left leg. I still prefer a manual but have never driven a car with a DCT. Thanks for posting this video.
The day when I can no longer buy a manual will be a sad day for me
MANual, mate)
Wish more hybrid cars had manuals.
It would work.
I have driven DCT cars for years and won't go back to a manual gearbox. It just makes driving simpler. And being disabled with problems with my left leg, the one I would use with the clutch, reverting to a manual would stop me driving.
I like both auto and manual.
I even drive both.
5 sprinter auto
1 lution manual
4 fiat small vans auto
1 bmw 320d manual
1 S3 auto
I agree with basically everything you said, even as a manual enthusiast. I would say though on high performance, we should ask ourselves, is the joy of driving an extra half second off 0-60, or optimized boost from the turbo? A manual adds to the pleasure of driving a car in a sporting way. We shouldn't view our street cars like an F1 engineer, chasing performance at the cost of pleasure.
But in terms of who spends the money on these things, they don't care about driving, they want bragging rights, and to use their ridiculous performance for cruising around, or going shopping. So yes, manuals are dead in performance cars, but it's not because they improve performance or driving pleasure, it's because people that buy new cars aren't interested in "extra work".
For everyday daily driving I really don’t understand why anyone would get a manual but for a sports car like a MX-5 that your mainly going to have some fun on the backroads with then a manual makes perfect sense. As for super cars I can understand why manuals have died off as the powertrains are more complex and powerful than ever before, you could never get close to the advertised 0-60 in a manual vs an automatic in those cars.
Mazda (and I think BMW) have gotten a manual to work with auto-stop, but will other makes make the same effort? There is also the problem of having to certify the emissions of both the auto and manual version of cars (if they offer a manual.). Best look around now (new or used) if you want to get a late-model car with a manual.
In cars I'm mildly annoyed by taking the hand off the wheel but more so by the few laggy automatic i know. In motorcycles i would not wanna miss shifting and don't mind it. 3000rpm.responsible. Downshift once or twice, lets go. It's a whole mood.
American here. Learned to drive with a "Three on a tree". Still driving my manual ;)
I haven't driven a autobox till now. Floor shifters and column shifters with manuals are the only things I have driven till now. Would like to experience a automatic once
I like my stickshift and want to get a manual WRX next. I enjoy shifting gears just to kill the monotony of driving. That said automatics and EVs are looking good and work well and you get plenty of options.
In the "old days" an automatic was a luxury option and only available in certain brands/ranges. The current situation is an evolution to the other way round. Manuals won't disappear altogether - they'll just become a luxury niche only found in certain types of vehicle and only from a limited selection of manufacturers!
thats how it already is, eventually we will all have self driving cars altogether lol
I always preferred manual gearboxes as they were more reliable than automatics when buying a used car. However, I am thinking that for the next used car I may look at an automatic one since reliability has improved a lot during the decade of manufacturing.
last year I bought a manual supercharged "family" car. still dreaming about a manual M2 though...
Chevy SS?
@@realAlexChoi we don't have that here in Europe...
If i was a millionaire i would buy every single manual car on existence.
You know what Rory, you better presenting by yourself keep it up fella 👊🏾
Two car family here in Ohio. Accord and Tacoma...both manuals. Rowing your own is the only way to go!
Lotus, Porsche and Aston are the only companies I can recall still offering supersports cars with manuals and I get the feeling that's gonna continue to decline again yet still.
Audi and Mercedes have put the nail in it and given the fact that superminis are being knocked on the head. That's another nail. Manuals and NA engines are gonna continue to become fewer and farther between, but we already knew that so..
Like you said gear boxes are dying out, Auto and Manual (Thank's Tesla) The problem we have now is that most people either want to emulate the best drivers in the world, Unfortunately not Journalist, but racing drivers. The other problem is that people are enjoying some kind of automated driving, such as active cruise control. I for one would never buy a manual again, but I hate to see the demise of anything that is popular to some. I think everyone like me has seen that happen to something they love, for me it was GT's like Jenson Interceptor, Bristol 411 and Volvo P1800. Now all you have in the luxury sector is sports cars like the new Mclaren GT, with just a GT badge. I feel your pain.
The problem is that people think that manuals are for sports cars when is really a daily driver thing. The problem its that manifactures dont promote the cheaper manual versions of everyday cars
And then the T.50 was introduced ^_^
If the manual stops being produced I'll build one in myself. Idc what anyone says, I love driving manuals.
And no, I'm not an oldhead, I'm 20 years old. I just like to have full control of the car and I'm good at it.
For the record, the Gordon murray T50 SUPERCAR is going toCome with a MANUAL .
I enjoy rev matching and manually shifting my Miata-wouldn’t have it any other way. It’s only in traffic jams where it gets tiring, but then again, traffic jams are annoying anyway.
I hope manuals will be around for a long time in enthusiast cars. It’s just another piece to the fun of driving, and the challenge to get your throttle blips just right just right every time simply makes it more rewarding.
Switching to Neutral and letting the clutch pedal go is a completely normal routine for everyone who paid attention during driving school. That’s the way it should be done for all longer stops. Not sure why Rory doesn’t seem to like it, but it’s the easiest and best way to implement a stop-start system to any vehicle. It does require a tiny little bit of driver attention, but if you’d rather pay attention to sport modes and launch controls and other bullshit like that, please do so.