Kennywood's Next Rollercoaster will be a first in the United States!
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- Опубликовано: 20 авг 2024
- Taking a speculative look at Kennywood's next Rollercoaster addition coming in the next 2-3 yrs.
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Can you do a video about Knoebels possible coasters for 2026 since that's their 100th anniversary?
If this comment gets enough likes, I will do that. Ironically, I was at Knoebel's yesterday afternoon...
That video would be insane... they are super unpredictable and they are also known to be incredibly capable engineers.
Lol, why would you ever want kennywood to have a first in the U.S. when they can't get their shit together with steel curtain?
Because instead of Kennywood buying a prototype and getting the world's first (and risking more major issues), someone else already has the prototype to work out the model kinks before adding the first one in the states.
Additionally, the vast majority of American parks that needed an invert either got a BM or a Vekoma product 20+ yrs ago. I wouldn't be surprised if the prototype was built with Kennywood in mind.
Ikr? It's not even open 95% of the time. It's a waste of space. They should just tear the damn thing down and replace it with something they can manage. Or bring back all the rides they removed over the last 5 years or so that everyone was sad to see go.
@@ville666sorayou do realize it’s not simple to hair tear a roller coaster down right? You know how much money that would cost, and how much they’ve already spent on it?
@samplautz5586 I'm pretty sure it doesn't cost much to tear down a coaster, if it did im sure the coasters that were sold for scrap at geauga lake would have been sold for scrap....😊
It would not be out of character for Kennywood to go for a "first in the US" model. As they did with Exterminator, Sky Rocket, and Steel Curtain. Heck, even Phantom's Revenge is a one-of-a-kind ride, but that's Kennywood-style more like the Thunderbolt.
Just got back from Cedar Point and the Zamperla Wild Mouse is a REALLY good model. I know Exterminator is a wild mouse, but if that’s on the way out, the Zamperla model would be a great reference. The cars were really spinning today, and it was great!
Funny thing about that...
Exterminator is a Reverchon ride. When Reverchon went under, they got bought by...you guessed it...Zamperla. So Cedar Point's ride is really a direct-line descendant of the Exterminator. It's the same ride with a modified car and a different layout...that is, it's essentially the same ride system.
Exterminator is great and an extremely popular ride. I don't understand internet doomsayers who always want to predict its demise.
honestly it's time to start speculating cause steel curtain hasn't done it's job! it's time to move on! I just hope the park doesn't make the same mistakes again
The underlying message that I'm trying to get out to Kennywood fans is that these decisions will almost assuredly be overseen by corporate moving forward.
The days of Kennywood being given a budget and a corporate hands-off approach are pretty much over.
great video
Thanks, I'm glad that you enjoyed it!
I think you are spot on about a need for a family coaster with a shorter height requirement. Jack rabbit has a low height requirement at 42, but it can be a lot for little ones. The racer is a lot more tame, but the difference between 42 and 46 inches can easily be a couple of summers. The low height requirements at Dollywood look so appealing.
Storm is 51 inches req. in Norway, but I see no reason that Gerstlauer can't achieve 48 inch or better.
@@PRC2019 48 inches for a family coaster would be a disappointment for me as a parent. I want more rides in the low 40s!
I'm thinking you could go 42 with an adult and 48 alone. As long as they continue with the Intamin style pullover lap bars.
Really depends on the model though
I can see them bringing back the flying carpet
That was my absolute all-time favorite flat ride. I would LOVE to experience that ride again. Truly a missing piece of my childhood.
I wish. Or at least send it to Idlewild, along with the Paratrooper.
I respectfully disagree. If I pull out my crystal ball, I see the popularity of the Ragin' Rapids diminish even though they did some work in it recently. That would give them the room to put the invert in, or even an RMC. They have the entire hillside along the train and maybe beyond to put in any dips.
The new video I just uploaded will potentially throws this topic to the back burner for a while lol
The current rumors I've been hearing for the plot of land next to the skyrocket is that it will be used for a new turnpike ride. For the next coaster I've heard that thay made a deal with sansei to get a vekoma family suspended coaster(and steel curtain fixed) where phantom's line is currently with phantom's line being re done to bring it closer to the exit of the ride.
Not unfounded, but I believe the "Vekoma" family invert you're expecting to come to Kennywood was already purchased, built, and been open for a few seasons now...
It's called Merlin's Mayhem at Dutch Wonderland and it is actually an S&S family invert, not just a Vekoma sold by S&S.
I can't envision Kennywood going down either of those roads, however.
That Gerstlauer invert is terrifying and a lot more intense than it looks. It tries to eject you from the train along the lines of Skyrush. Only thing is they were having lots of problems and down time with it, with periodic announcements of extended downtime.
A new family steel coaster like the one at Dollywood would be great.
The idea of an invert would be great, I think that the ride would be a little short, I think I’d prefer a new gen Vekoma STC, also where would the station go? That plot that you pointed out won’t be big enough without removing candy kaleidoscope, so I hope it happens, but idk, don’t get me wrong, I’d love for this to be the next investment, and I do like the points you’ve made, I just am kinda skeptical
Anything is possible, but the lack of Vekoma products found in there parks would lead me to think otherwise. Also the Vekoma stc would require more land than Kennywood can afford to dedicate imo.
But personally I wouldn't be against it, although I think the gerstlauer infinity invert would add that prototype style of unique ride experience without having to purchase an actual prototype with all of the problems that usually come along with it.
@@PRC2019 Yeah, Kennywood is very unpredictable tho, no one saw curtain coming, but I do like the idea of an invert coaster
I am wondering if Kennywood still has a shot at land expansion? I know they have been trying for some time.
They have expanded the footprint via land acquisition twice in the last 20 yrs, but since the "Lost Kennywood" and "Steelers country" areas debuted, not so much. Eventually, I do seem them heading into the Ravine behind the racer and Jackrabbit perhaps with a station near the current day picnic pavilions.
But truthfully, your guess is as good as mine on this part of it!
IMO it could be done, but for a price. They could in theory, bury RT 837 with a tunnel and build the park over it. You would lose the iconic entrance tunnel, but the entire lower parking lot is up for grabs. The upper lots will stay, but have the park buy the shopping center on top to make more parking. They used to own all that land but sold some of it in the 70's to keep the park afloat.
@@nohandle227 Back in the day, I used to hit up that Giant Eagle all the time up there. I used to buy cigs there when I was at my grandma's 3 blocks away.
That Deli had this Deviled Crab thing that was out of this world. A couple of those, a bag of Cheese Waffies, and a carton of Iced Tea and I was good to go. lol
I hope we get the Gerstlauer Infinity coaster. The more parks i visit, the more i appreciate KW's unique attractions. Im onl with an invert. I just dont want a B&M invert. Every park seems to have one.
Yep, agreed.
As long as it doesn't have reliability issues like the other first in the US coaster they last added.
Agreed, but to be fair, Steel Curtain was the first, and only multi looping hyper coaster from S&S ever...
Hence why this scenario is FAR safer for Kennywood but still guarantee a unique ride experience.
@@PRC2019 I predicted that it would have reliability issues since the whole concept of the ride from the time of its announcement was literally the first of its kind ever built. S&S had never even built anything similar by that point. Just the concept of it sounds worse than Kings Dominion purchasing S&S's air launch prototype.
Inexpensive, compact and unique means a cheap prototype piece of 💩 to Kennywood! 😂 The Exterminator is a great ride but they should redo the entrance and bypass that underground dungeon that the theming has been removed from.
I think that area is actually not a bad area for a coaster, honestly theme it to aliens and put another flat where the 4D ride goes and you already have a nice expansion area. The 4D building needs to go.
I think the bobsled would be a good fit, it seems like it is family oriented with a little thrill.I would prefer the invert (I'd really want an infinity , lol). I just hope it will not be a very tame family coaster.
If we could get the improved and updated version of Storm from Tusenfryd for 2026, it would be a walk off grand slam move for the park.
@@PRC2019 It does look fun !
There is another important feature of that Gerstlauer invert. Kennywood’s coasters have, between them a total of 11 inversions. But what *don’t* they have? Let’s just say they learned an important lesson with Steel Phantom and appear to have taken it seriously.
I think the layout is ideal for the park (or one similar) I think that inverted dive loop adds variety to those inversions you speak of! Cheers.
@@PRC2019 I'm actually noting that the (mis)feature that Sky Rocket and Steel Curtain don't have, is also missing from Storm-The Dragon Legend (the Gerstlauer invert), and *because it is missing* makes it a good candidate for Kennywood.
I would like to see the bobsled or the invert one that you mentioned because it is unique
Agreed, those would also be my preference. But the compact swing launched invert is just waaaaaay too perfect.
@@PRC2019 that would be great because I don’t think they have a shuttle coaster
Bobsled coaster is most certainly not happening.
@@Chessingtondragonfury why not? (I’m curious)
The invert wins for me! 😈🤘
It would be a phenomenal fit. And to be honest, I wouldn't hate an 8 yr plan that would bring BOTH a swing launched invert AND a Bobsled model to the park (in that order, with a custom bobsled completely replacing exterminator here featuring an indoor and outdoor section to the ride) to the park by 2032.
Furthermore, I don't even think it's that far of a stretch.
@@PRC2019 sounds good to me! I liked your style I subbed…😏
But as my home park I think my dream additions would be a modern woodie like a gci but more realistically I would want a STC from vekoma I think that’s the perfect fit but palace doesn’t really have a history with vekoma so I doubt it
I would love to see a modern GCI at Kennywood before my lifetime is up. (Preferably sooner rather than later so that I can still ride it though lol)
Unfortunately not much of the general public would likely agree with us. Lol
@@PRC2019 nope, the locals want the classics still which there’s nothing wrong with but a top 2 of phantom with a woodie and then if they get curtain going would make a great top 3
I don’t think a small budget is as much of a thing to worry about kennywood, if they see fit I’m sure they would go for an extremely expensive coaster from an extremely expense manufacture
Agreed. When the time is right. They will.
But we would need to see a large expansion to warrant such an expense. But again, in the next decade, I can see plans announced for another significant scale coaster.
Who did the FPV drone work?
Footage from Kennywood but I can't remember the names of the "pilots" sorry.
How did you found out KW's next roller coaster?
This is not confirmed. This is speculation and prediction. But I utilize forensic accounting practices to come up with a probability table. Far from an exact science, but I feel comfortable standing behind the premise of my predictions.
I rode FIrechaser Express a few weeks back, I don't think it has aged very well... I called it the Backcracker Express... and was my least favorite at Dollywood. The only issue I had with Exterminator was the terrible wait time
That's surprising for me to hear, the previous 2 seasons I couldn't have been more impressed with fire chaser, but in this game things can change quickly.
Hopefully it's running better for me next month!
@@PRC2019 Everyone has their own opinions too! So maybe you will be happy!
personally i think that kennywood should remove sky rocket and replace it with a swing launch gerstlaurer like storm at tusenfryd. higher capacity, more thrill, compact, and fills gaps in the lineup.
Sky Rocket won't be going anywhere in the near future. Too popular. But the storm style ride is what I'm predicting.
@@PRC2019 i have beef with skyrocket. that second half is the biggest upset to me 😭
The ride definitely ends weak, but that coaster has more elite moments than most coasters with that track length. I'd rather the whole thing be good, but I think it fits the ride lineup very well!
Although the last rows of the trains are torture devices if your shoe size exceeds a 10 lol
@@PRC2019 i made my version of a good “replacement” for sky rocket IF the opportunity were to present itself…lol
I hope that they never remove the gardens and put a coaster there as you suggested.
Yes it’s time for exterminator’s departure.
I don't believe the new coaster and Kennywood keeping the gardens have to be exclusive ideas.
I would imagine the dive loop element could run through the garden area and still leave significant green space.
Phobia was supposed to go somewhere else but the park declined it so LC picked it up on the cheap.
That time frame is a little unclear who was calling the shots for the US parks. I always got the feeling that Kennywood's acquisition was just as much about the management team as the park. They needed an experienced domestic management team to help integrate their long-term plans not just at Kennywood but for a future expansion. But what's been left at the park level is a far cry from the prognosticators that managed the park in past iterations.
The last time they tried that it didn’t go so well
The prototype is already successfully operating. Once improvements are made, Kennywood would be getting the first install in the US. (Typically Kennywood is the park with the prototype)
This is EXACTLY what they SHOULD be doing to avoid making the same mistakes over and over again.
But will they? Lol it's Kennywood, who knows.
A guerstlauer family or spinner is unlikely considering we have firechaser at Dollywood and the pandemonium clones at six flags parks.
Admittedly the spinner is least likely and least attractive, but mauer or gerstlauer could eventually redo exterminator, so that's really the only reason that got mentioned.
@@PRC2019 Laff track at Hershey park.
Laff Track is a clone, alongside Steel Dragon at Waldameer they are just two of the multiple rides with this layout built by Mauer.
The model sells, but I find it would be redundant in the market.
They'd be smart to just teardown steel curtain, the ride's a failure
I hope not, the ride is so unique, my preference is that it gets fixed once and for all!
I mean i think we all know the steel curtain will be torn down
I hope not! But if this round of fixes fails, then it could definitely be on its way out, but think positive!
It's 5 years old. I doubt they'll abandon it that quickly. You don't give up on a multi million dollar coaster after 5 years. That's the main reason why they closed it for 2024. They are hopefully getting it to where it needs to be. Hopefully, it'll be a good coaster for the park in the coming years
@@jpgiles1725lol.
@@jpgiles1725 lol
@@CanvasSuperior why lol?
I live in Pittsburgh and Kennywood is always full of disappointment!!! They only run one train on a lot of rides making wait times three or four times what they should be it is a great park but run terribly!! I drive 3 hours away to Cedar point to go to a good run park! I wish it wasn’t like that but it is
I borderline agree with you, but this has been my home park for most of my life...its special to me. HOWEVER, this is the very first time in over a decade that I didn't buy a season pass this year. The handling of the curtain broke my spirit a little bit towards them. So, yeah, I surely feel your pain. Right there with you on the ops, etc.
@@PRC2019 The more coasters I ride, the more I appreciate Phantom's ride ops. Seriously one of the best in the business. They keep it moving and entertaining for riders in the station, even during one train ops. Just wish they'd do something about all the line skipping for it.
Can we stop getting prototypes
The prototype is currently displaying which kinks need worked out overseas at Tusenfryd in Norway. Remember, first in the US doesn't mean first ever...this is the smart way for Kennywood to check all of its boxes without taking on the risk of a full blown prototype.
It's not a prototype if one already exists is it?
@@PRC2019 I didn’t watch the whole video before I commented lmao but I agree with what you said my second comment was after
You know they are most likely going to scrap steel curtain, right? And i consider sky rocket a kiddie coaster, since its about the least forceful launch coaster ive ever ridden! Swing launches are pathetic too. The last thing kenmywood needs is more 1 train ops and a launch to break down again! They can barely keep their own rides running! A few days ago they had Phantom even go down. Honestly they need to keep rides they have working, instead of adding new trash to this park! Its really pathetic.
Seems like you've lost faith in the park.
I know it can certainly be frustrating but I believe better days are ahead, just try to keep positive!
@@PRC2019 Yeah beacuse every time I'm there it's a mid to terrible experience! They focus more on food now instead of the rides and customer experience and it's just really sad.
Sky Rocket has too high a height requirement to be a kiddie coaster. At 52 inches it’s among the highest in the park.
@@devintron1 Sky rocket is pretty lame. Lil Phantom unironically is more forceful. Given the choice, I'd take lil phantom every time. Honestly needs to be torn down along with Steel Curtain.
Steel Curtain 2.0 🙄🍺
This made me laugh out loud for real 😂
And whatever ride they decide it’ll be close the year in opens due to mechanical issues. Kennywood is whack
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