Clone High was a parody of teen drama. Making fun of the genre. The reboot focused on teen drama as the driving force. Glorifying what was originally mocked.
Honestly the cancel culture episode could've worked if instead of Abe, they used Gandhi instead. Not only would the jokes write themselves with him desperately trying to be unproblematic but failing misably and could be a funny reference to the fact that it was because of him that the show got cancelled in the first place, but you could explain his absence by having him at the end decide to go on this spiritual journey to not be problematic in the eyes of the new clones. Like imagine how absolutely hilarious it would be to have someone like Gandhi interacting with a character like Topher
How did I, and even worse, the WRITERS not see that?! That makes so much more sense, considering he was the character people had a problem with and literally had a hand in canceling the original series. Your idea is so clever and would have served as a great plot point without haphazardly writing the character off.
The idea of a “cancel culture” themed episode already immediately ticked me off with this show but it’d at least make sense with Ghandi, I feel like with Abe they were just making up shit that was _not_ there with his character and that made an already somewhat annoying premise stand out that much more
Sadly they weren't gonna return him even though that version was FICTIONAL. They weren't real. Even if they might be based on real people, they are fictional. The original show used Satire, nothing was to be taken seriously.
@@electrobob992 Well there WAS the idea of having him turn out to be a clone of Gary Coleman. I suspect if they had gotten 4 revival seasons (the point at which the showrunner said they'd bring Ghandi back), they'd have gone with that twist.
@@demonteprice5870 Exactly, stuff like Family Guy & South Park have been pushing the boundaries on edginess for years. Something like Gandhi would barely make people raise an eyebrow nowadays
@@reptile1687 it is. MTV gave into the protests of Indians who felt their national hero had been insulted. In other words, an early example of cancel culture over offended a foreign culture
Me and a friend came up with a way they could have kept Gandhi in. Instead of being the only clone left on ice, he was the only to escape getting frozen. He’s the guidance counselor at Clone High now and is a renowned motivational speaker.
If they “cancelled” JFK, it would have been so much funnier (and in character). JFK fumbling around and trying to guess the right thing to say has potential
Maybe make it a sexual harassment/me too thing? That was far more culturally impactful than using 'gay' as a insult, at least as far as I could observe. Even gets some good spoof aesops ala "litter is good in moderation" like "never compliment anyone for anything."
Dammit, I had a feeling the way the final episode of season three ended and how all episodes were released at once indicated that the show got cancelled again. Nothing's more disappointing than ending a show on a cliffhanger, no matter how self-aware the show is about it.
You know whats worse? The 3rd season actually got a LITTLE bit better, we were so close to reach season 4 and get our man Ghandi, but no ine cared because the 2nd season already ruined the show
Ironically the humor of the original just feels more ever green despite being so of its time. I’ve never even heard of Ashley Angel from O Town as kid, but I found that shit hilarious. Felt like the new show was missing a specific funny bone that I can’t identify.
Still, it really sucks that they canceled it again, especially before they could give Gandhi a second chance. I feel like he could've gotten along with the new clones pretty well.
They added unfunny characters, sidelined Cleo from the core characters by just pushing her off to date Frida, focused WAY too much on Harriet, a character who wasnt funny and had an awful design who they forced to be more friends with Joan instead of Abe or Cleo or even Frida, softened JFK because of fan reception and focused way too much on playing things straight instead of parodies. Its like Abe just forgot that he and Cleo dated. Bad writing, bad characterization, and no Ghandi. Period.
In season 4 ghandi was meant to come back so either the ratings were bad for season 2 and 3 or it’s because ghandi was meant to come back in season 4 and yet Velma hasn’t got cancelled yet when it needs to be 😡 and there’s gonna be a 3rd season in October
@@empeanutsonit’s because Velma is so hated whereas clone high is just another example of a bad reboot (so no one really cared). Velma managed to piss off people on both sides of the political spectrum, so it was bound to get people’s interest.
I wouldn’t be surprised if behind the scenes, Lord & Miller were planning on having a movie (perhaps called “Clone Earth: the last High”) to wrap it up. Maybe with a not so heavy handed message like “Regardless of our location in time and space, we must try to mature and brace ourselves for whatever challenges we face.” Maybe have photos in the end credits of Gandhi defrosted, grown up and married to Marie Curie. There might be a post credits scene of 40 years into future where all the clones gather to hold Scudworth’s funeral and say goodbye, but with some of the most absurd and inappropriate eulogies one could imagine.
The new seasons made the show become the very thing it mocked. And while the latest (and now final) season was an improvement, was too late as the majority of fans tuned out. They had their chance and they blew it.
The thing is, if your references are dated, it doesn't matter as long as you time your punchlines and setups well, and Clone High was GREAT at that. If you want proof of that, just look at classic loony tunes. Beloved generation after generation, and not a damn soul except the people around for the original theatrical showings know what the hell any of the pop culture references they make are. Clone High 2 is barely behind us and already feels stale, coz it threw it's entire ass into current year PC culture that normal people are finally getting tired of. in about 3 years or so it'll be more of a relic than the original show ever was. It didn't need to be this way.
So we all going to sit around and pretend that the reboot wasn't awoke cash grab that spit in the face of everything the original stood for to bend the knee for identity politics?
Well I'd knew Clone High got Cancelled even though the original series is Great but the revival is massively disappointment plus I've hated how it ended on another cliffhanger which now it will never get get resolved R.I.P. Clone High you were quite the underrated gem that was ahead of it's time
Sometimes if it doesnt return immediately its best to just let it die. The original was funny but it didnt last and this reboot was insufferable couldn't handle more than 2 episodes ...
Abe getting canclled is pretty obvious commentary about how the change in the acceptability of different behaviors and phrases is pretty extreme, and also that teens are dumb. Teens are dumb always was a vehicle for comedy in the old show. New times new form of dumb. Its also a decent excuse to not just lead directly to a romance between Joan and Abe right after the finale. As honestly? A successful romance between them wont be half as interesting as their failure to achieve one
@@CopyrightCarson yeah… but mtv didnt want to give up on broadcasting rights in india. So… it would make more sense, but wouldnt lead to as much character/plot development. The writers wanted something new to do with Abe and Joan
@@CopyrightCarson Or JFK. Or if it was some reason other than a weird insult that as far as I know in the 00's was only really used by middle school boys: It's not exactly a huge cultural touchstone.
I read that there were a lot of new young writers on the show that didn’t understand the original. They thought Abe was this terrible person for “ignoring” Joan but in reality the entire joke is that Abe has no idea Joan likes him no matter how obvious it is.
@@CopyrightCarsonI am young and I get the show. Abe was not ignoring Joan. He is way too stupid to notice he has a crush on her. That's the joke. It's like how Phineas is completely unaware that Isabella is in love with him.
I vaguely remember early reviews of Season 2 saying it was better but I mean... I don't subscribe to Max. Welp, another 20 years we'll probably get anothe revival. Any bets on whether it will continue from this cliffhanger or totally ignore the reboot?
overall season 2 was okay, it just has no gags that stand out like the original run. I thought maybe they could get back into the swing on season 3 but i guess not lolol
All the butthurt Clone High fans pretended the revival was good and then bitched about Hazbin Hotel getting renewed for more 3 seasons despite the two shows not even being on the same streaming service.
Hazbin hotel and the clone high reboot are about on the same level so I can’t say I blame them, doesn’t excuse them for stupidly thinking it’s on max tho
@@George_Fl0yd Nah, they're not on the same level. I _remember_ everything about Hazbin, whilst I don't remember most of what happened in the CH revival.
Welp I'm surprised it even survived to a 3rd season, couldn't even get pass the first 2 episodes of season 2. The whole woke culture bs really ruined a lot of the writing that made the og so good.
Clone High was a parody of teen drama. Making fun of the genre. The reboot focused on teen drama as the driving force. Glorifying what was originally mocked.
The first revolved mostly around joan and abe, there was a shift in the balance in the reboot but all those elements were there
@benzur3503 if you liked it, cool. But you would fail a writing class.
@@dennydude nah, dont think i will
@@dennydudeNo, you wouldn’t. Geez dude, calm down.
@@dennydude savage
Honestly the cancel culture episode could've worked if instead of Abe, they used Gandhi instead. Not only would the jokes write themselves with him desperately trying to be unproblematic but failing misably and could be a funny reference to the fact that it was because of him that the show got cancelled in the first place, but you could explain his absence by having him at the end decide to go on this spiritual journey to not be problematic in the eyes of the new clones. Like imagine how absolutely hilarious it would be to have someone like Gandhi interacting with a character like Topher
How did I, and even worse, the WRITERS not see that?! That makes so much more sense, considering he was the character people had a problem with and literally had a hand in canceling the original series. Your idea is so clever and would have served as a great plot point without haphazardly writing the character off.
I thought the same thing. Abe was extremely mild, and Ghandi was offensive.
The idea of a “cancel culture” themed episode already immediately ticked me off with this show but it’d at least make sense with Ghandi, I feel like with Abe they were just making up shit that was _not_ there with his character and that made an already somewhat annoying premise stand out that much more
@@bubbythebear6891Probably the writers didn’t think of that.
Alright, only 20 years to get the next season
See y'all til then
It looks like we'll never see gandhi again.
Sadly they weren't gonna return him even though that version was FICTIONAL.
They weren't real.
Even if they might be based on real people, they are fictional.
The original show used Satire, nothing was to be taken seriously.
@@electrobob992 india took it seriously.
@@electrobob992 Well there WAS the idea of having him turn out to be a clone of Gary Coleman. I suspect if they had gotten 4 revival seasons (the point at which the showrunner said they'd bring Ghandi back), they'd have gone with that twist.
The OG season got canceled because it was too “offensive”.
The reboot got canceled because it was too safe.
Should've just doubled down on being offensive honestly.
@@demonteprice5870 Exactly, stuff like Family Guy & South Park have been pushing the boundaries on edginess for years. Something like Gandhi would barely make people raise an eyebrow nowadays
@@FunkelMcStumpFamily Guy never pushed any boundaries. They always stayed safe in being one of the most painfully unfunny shows ever
@@carmi7042 in terms of offensive comedy, they did
@@FunkelMcStumpFamily Guy has no comedy or humor whatsoever
Yeah they should've just given us Ghandi in the 1st place. Damn the consequences.
The first time Clone High was cancelled it was because it wasn’t very PC.
Now it was cancelled for being TOO PC.
I thought it was because people went on hunger strike over the depiction of ghandi
@@reptile1687 it is. MTV gave into the protests of Indians who felt their national hero had been insulted. In other words, an early example of cancel culture over offended a foreign culture
@@dylanbuchanan6511 ghandi wasnt even that much of saint
@@reptile1687 I’m aware but that’s not what India thinks.
Me and a friend came up with a way they could have kept Gandhi in. Instead of being the only clone left on ice, he was the only to escape getting frozen.
He’s the guidance counselor at Clone High now and is a renowned motivational speaker.
JFK touched me in Burger King bathroom in 07/12/08. This cancellation is 100% deserved.
This factually couldn’t have happened because JFK was frozen in the meat locker from 2003-2023. It must’ve been a JFK imposter.
@@CopyrightCarson it was me actually
@@ultracummerI watched you do it
@@CopyrightCarson that’s what they want you to think
If they “cancelled” JFK, it would have been so much funnier (and in character). JFK fumbling around and trying to guess the right thing to say has potential
Maybe make it a sexual harassment/me too thing? That was far more culturally impactful than using 'gay' as a insult, at least as far as I could observe. Even gets some good spoof aesops ala "litter is good in moderation" like "never compliment anyone for anything."
I guess you could say…
History repeats itself
Dammit, I had a feeling the way the final episode of season three ended and how all episodes were released at once indicated that the show got cancelled again.
Nothing's more disappointing than ending a show on a cliffhanger, no matter how self-aware the show is about it.
Hopefully in another 20 years it’s given a season 4 where Gandhi returns.
You know whats worse? The 3rd season actually got a LITTLE bit better, we were so close to reach season 4 and get our man Ghandi, but no ine cared because the 2nd season already ruined the show
Ironically the humor of the original just feels more ever green despite being so of its time. I’ve never even heard of Ashley Angel from O Town as kid, but I found that shit hilarious. Felt like the new show was missing a specific funny bone that I can’t identify.
They earned it this time
Still, it really sucks that they canceled it again, especially before they could give Gandhi a second chance. I feel like he could've gotten along with the new clones pretty well.
Especially Frida ngl...just man
They added unfunny characters, sidelined Cleo from the core characters by just pushing her off to date Frida, focused WAY too much on Harriet, a character who wasnt funny and had an awful design who they forced to be more friends with Joan instead of Abe or Cleo or even Frida, softened JFK because of fan reception and focused way too much on playing things straight instead of parodies. Its like Abe just forgot that he and Cleo dated. Bad writing, bad characterization, and no Ghandi. Period.
cleo and frida felt shoehorned in as an excuse to make all the main characters in relationships
In season 4 ghandi was meant to come back so either the ratings were bad for season 2 and 3 or it’s because ghandi was meant to come back in season 4 and yet Velma hasn’t got cancelled yet when it needs to be 😡 and there’s gonna be a 3rd season in October
The difference between the Clone High revival and Velma makes me so confused on the "hate-watching" argument. It clearly didn't work for the former
I think it was Season 4 of the revival. Meaning we were 2 seasons short. So I don't think that was it.
@@empeanutsonit’s because Velma is so hated whereas clone high is just another example of a bad reboot (so no one really cared).
Velma managed to piss off people on both sides of the political spectrum, so it was bound to get people’s interest.
Not to mention there will be a horror adaptation of Peter Pan.
They should make a clone high movie to officially end the series
I wouldn’t be surprised if behind the scenes, Lord & Miller were planning on having a movie (perhaps called “Clone Earth: the last High”) to wrap it up. Maybe with a not so heavy handed message like “Regardless of our location in time and space, we must try to mature and brace ourselves for whatever challenges we face.” Maybe have photos in the end credits of Gandhi defrosted, grown up and married to Marie Curie. There might be a post credits scene of 40 years into future where all the clones gather to hold Scudworth’s funeral and say goodbye, but with some of the most absurd and inappropriate eulogies one could imagine.
Ghandi must be the one getting cancelled, that would have been the funiest thing ever.
There's two kinds of reboots you can be. You can be a Beavis and Butthead or a Clone High, Don't be a clone High!
aight, time to wait another 20 years for season 4 5 and 6 before it get cancels again
The new seasons made the show become the very thing it mocked. And while the latest (and now final) season was an improvement, was too late as the majority of fans tuned out. They had their chance and they blew it.
If it’s not broken don’t fix it.
If I got a dollar every time jfk got canceled I'd have three dollars.
Ha ha! That.
The new designs where so ugly. They definitely jumped the shark
I watched one episode of the new season before dropping it
Damn can’t wait for season 4 in 2044
this time the cancelling is deserved
The thing is, if your references are dated, it doesn't matter as long as you time your punchlines and setups well, and Clone High was GREAT at that. If you want proof of that, just look at classic loony tunes.
Beloved generation after generation, and not a damn soul except the people around for the original theatrical showings know what the hell any of the pop culture references they make are.
Clone High 2 is barely behind us and already feels stale, coz it threw it's entire ass into current year PC culture that normal people are finally getting tired of. in about 3 years or so it'll be more of a relic than the original show ever was. It didn't need to be this way.
I am not even sad... this show was... terrible
So we all going to sit around and pretend that the reboot wasn't awoke cash grab that spit in the face of everything the original stood for to bend the knee for identity politics?
The reboot was just ass bro
Well I'd knew Clone High got Cancelled even though the original series is Great but the revival is massively disappointment plus I've hated how it ended on another cliffhanger which now it will never get get resolved R.I.P. Clone High you were quite the underrated gem that was ahead of it's time
Damn we were almost gonna get Ghandi back in Season 4, we'll never get to see his face again.
And nothing of value was lost
I want Gandhi back
The more things change the more they stay the same.
Ugh I just now found out season 3 existed 💀
Well, looks like we'll be waiting another twenty years for the re-revival. See you in 2044!
I hope to God warner bros does the same thing to Velma because they promoted it way more then clone high
I doubt CH will get a third chance like Family Guy did
Sometimes if it doesnt return immediately its best to just let it die. The original was funny but it didnt last and this reboot was insufferable couldn't handle more than 2 episodes ...
They could’ve did one more season with a proper finale
3:54 i agree about frieda. I could at least tell who she was supposed to be.
Because the reboot was bad and it also lacked the comic relief character.
See you all in another 20 years
Wait, there is a season 3?
Isn’t cleopatra’s old va Joan’s foster mom so they recast her for literally no reason?
You are correct!
I didn’t know there was a third season til the end of the episode
Lets hope it stays like that...what a fucking letdown
I guess we'll have to wait another 20 years for season 4 😂
Imagine if they continue in 2043,that would be peak
I did not know season 3 existed thanks for telling me
Abe getting canclled is pretty obvious commentary about how the change in the acceptability of different behaviors and phrases is pretty extreme, and also that teens are dumb. Teens are dumb always was a vehicle for comedy in the old show. New times new form of dumb. Its also a decent excuse to not just lead directly to a romance between Joan and Abe right after the finale. As honestly? A successful romance between them wont be half as interesting as their failure to achieve one
I think the getting cancelled plot would’ve been a lot better if Gandhi was the one being cancelled rather than Abe.
@@CopyrightCarson yeah… but mtv didnt want to give up on broadcasting rights in india. So… it would make more sense, but wouldnt lead to as much character/plot development. The writers wanted something new to do with Abe and Joan
@@CopyrightCarson Or JFK. Or if it was some reason other than a weird insult that as far as I know in the 00's was only really used by middle school boys: It's not exactly a huge cultural touchstone.
can we get a movie to wrap it up at least? can we unite till we get that or get a fan movement to make a fanfilm wrap up?
Basically they take old IP and remake it in their own imagine and get offended when no one like it.
I read that there were a lot of new young writers on the show that didn’t understand the original. They thought Abe was this terrible person for “ignoring” Joan but in reality the entire joke is that Abe has no idea Joan likes him no matter how obvious it is.
@@CopyrightCarsonIf you hate *arguably* the main character of they series, why are you writing for said series
@@FunkelMcStump Exactly!
@@CopyrightCarsonI am starting to think Gen z writers need more than just experience
@@CopyrightCarsonI am young and I get the show. Abe was not ignoring Joan. He is way too stupid to notice he has a crush on her. That's the joke. It's like how Phineas is completely unaware that Isabella is in love with him.
SAY WHAT!?!?!?
I didn't even know there was a season 3!! WTF!?
This was a very fsir and genuine video, subbed
It sucks that its cancelled I wanted more
Saw it coming!
Wait it came back wtf and ofc it gets cancelled again that sucks
I think it’s a good thing because the new season sucked ass and was an absolute waste of my time. Unless we get a complete reboot then idk
Half the season where stupid relationships drama 💀
I vaguely remember early reviews of Season 2 saying it was better but I mean... I don't subscribe to Max.
Welp, another 20 years we'll probably get anothe revival. Any bets on whether it will continue from this cliffhanger or totally ignore the reboot?
overall season 2 was okay, it just has no gags that stand out like the original run. I thought maybe they could get back into the swing on season 3 but i guess not lolol
I agree with you I hated Cleo’s new voice
Let’s all pretend the revival didn’t happen and Joan and JFK are still together.
Yeaa maybe its for the best
Clone high’s downfall needs to be studied.
All the butthurt Clone High fans pretended the revival was good and then bitched about Hazbin Hotel getting renewed for more 3 seasons despite the two shows not even being on the same streaming service.
Hazbin hotel and the clone high reboot are about on the same level so I can’t say I blame them, doesn’t excuse them for stupidly thinking it’s on max tho
@@George_Fl0yd Nah, they're not on the same level. I _remember_ everything about Hazbin, whilst I don't remember most of what happened in the CH revival.
@@pawnhearts8785 so what ur saying is one is garbage and the other is dumpster fire?
@@George_Fl0yd I'm saying one show is good and the other show is pretty bad
@@pawnhearts8785 I’m saying both suck
3:20 samething happened in camp camp. I hated Max's new va 😭
Same! 😢
Really cancelled again? (it was not a bad show for new seasons was not amazing but not bad)
This time it deserved it
I don’t think clone high will get another revival to be honest with you...
Bro wat?.. i actually really liked it...
I didnt even know it had a new season seaon 3 def better thsn season 2
Wait they made a third season??
I'm praying that it csn be brought back for the 3rd time.🙏🏻🤞
Now I'm worried about Undergrads
Welp I'm surprised it even survived to a 3rd season, couldn't even get pass the first 2 episodes of season 2. The whole woke culture bs really ruined a lot of the writing that made the og so good.
dude you mumble words.. hard to watch and listen to
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Please 🥺🙏 I want clone high
R.I.P
When will clone high ever come back in the future
No idea :/
Why they cancelled the show anyway
I just want season three please
Man. Between this and Futurama being underwhelmingly unthawed again (and that had an ending!) sometimes shit should just stay in the past.
My first exposure to "Season 3" as well 🫤
Can you review seasons 3? The closest I found to review was song tier list from it