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Since its mandatory and you only used your fist i wouldnt consider that breaking the run My Logic: Most challenge runners i watch tend to state they only use fist until they can use the weapon as long as they dont use any other weapon but the challenge weapon or fist
The thing about Seeth is that while he might be a dragon, it was less that dragons were week to lightning and more that their scales were resistant to everything else. Seeth, however, is as mentioned intro scaleless.
That may be true, but for his defenses in game he actually is weak to lightning. It's just that the way damage is calculated in dark souls means that split damage isn't usually as good as pure physical damage
Well Crossbows always allowed me to fire something one-handed, which at least left me being able to block right after firing, plus since it has no scaling and very little stat requirements, they can be used by any builds for decent overall damage when upgraded, especially those that happen to not have other means to attack from range. I always have one in my inventory.
@@PonzooonTheGreat Oh yeah, that is true, I somehow forgot about that. Albeit it can get on the expensive side, it is a viable option as well. I mean I could also say you're limited with the amount of spells, whereas the Bolts have different types of huge, humanly infinite stacks, but meh, doesn't mean one is lesser than the other for that reason, at least you don't spend souls to cast spells and they're refilled upon resting.
I think Lautrec had the same realization you had during your fight with him (that it was going to take forever), but with the added realization that you were probably going to win no matter what due to your strategy, so he decided it was easier to just end it all.
Let this be a lesson: crossbows have always been viable I beat Elden Ring with a crossbow as my primary ranged option, Crepus’ specifically, worked really well
Almost all nomadic merchants sell basic arrows and bolts, some will sell special variants. On top of that, always be killing animals for beast bones to make custom arrows/bolts. My first character has nearly a full inventory of scarlet rot bolts
I mean, you're not using a weapon to kill the snake man, so, I mean if we go by what some of the other challenge runs where you had to wait for a weapon to get (and punched until you did), I'd still call it a success. And has taught me that cross bows, may not be that bad... still prefer the regular bows though... I take it back after seeing the Avelyn. That cross bow is a machine gun.
@@jaredjosephsongheng372 reminds me of an old game called Enclave: it has a double-crossbow that can fire 2 shots before reloading, and a "dwarven crossbow" that can fire EIGHT shots before reloading.
Run suggestion: Beating Dark Souls 1 (/Remastered) with only boss drops. You can only equip things dropped by a boss (including cutting tails) or crafted from a boss soul. (You can firebomb the Asylum Demon to get its drop if you want)
I'd go further. You must use the last boss weapon you got. Should you get more than one option, such as you cut their tail and killed them, then you can choose which you use.
Why don't you use the binoculars for more precise long-range aiming? Might have been able to snipe bed of chaos with it. Also monster hunter challenge runs yes pls
I tried this run a few months ago as well. I cosplayed as John Wick and only used crossbows and punches. Yeah Nito was awful, but there were really no other problem bosses. I never realized how easy a crossbow makes the Gargoyles fight, it’s kind of insane.
I’m glad subsequent games allow aiming while two handed. I honestly prefer crossbows to bows. They don’t get scaling, but they’re more versatile. I “think” he would have gotten the desired effect if he infused the crossbow with Lightning, when paired with Lightning Bolts. Not sure, though. Split damage sucks in DS1, ranged or melee. The king of great infusions is DS2, where you can really focus a damage type, then apply spell buff like Sunlight Blade. DS3 is ok, but they toned down what you could do with stacking damage.
As a non-firefighter I can indeed confirm your assumption regarding what firefighters do, they indeed literally fight fires with dodge rolls, blocks and parries, while most commonly using a two handed axe doing this EDIT: Seath not taking more damage from lightning bolts is mechanically based on how split damage works in DS1 and regarding the lore, it even works out this time, as due to the lore the only reason dragons being vulnerable to lightning is that lightning shaves of their scales, exposing their unprotected skin. As Seath (the Scaleless - hint hint hint) has no scales, the weakness of other dragons towards lightning does not apply to him ;)
reminds me of the Pyro in Team Fortress 2: he carries a flamethrower and a fireman's "halligan tool". he also wears a fire-retardant suit. it doesn't make him fireproof, but DOES prevent him from taking DOT effects from fire.
Ah, the memories. I used to do this run fairly regularly way back before I started speed running. I remember always having not enough souls for arrows, why I always forgot the bridge kite farm is beyond me. Probably watched gamersweekend too often. I think im gonna do one for old times sake, or at least try to. Wonder if power within will boost the damage...
I remember using the Avelyn during my DS2 run, I was cosplaying Alva and wanted to emulate his curved greatsword and crossbow style from DS3. The Avelyn was awesome, it sucked ammo like a vacuum, but it was worth it.
@@imethdup5050 shh go back to hell demon! Nobody wants to hear your horrorstories you are scaring the children. They are still recovering from the tale of the havel hexer
Awhile back, I did a “Bloodborne” playthrough of DS1, where my only weapons were crossbows in my left hand, and whips in my right hand. Pretty early I realized crossbows did way more damage, and then it just became a crossbow run
@@shadowrosegaming3566 Ideally, there would be a different elemental bolt/arrow for each elemental crossbow/bow. I’ve always wondered why there wasn’t…
All those class builds I looked for when playing Dark Souls for the first time, all those walkthroughs I watched to know what to do, all those guides I read to make my choices when going through the game, how did we all arrive to the conclusion: "Oh, this gangsta crossbow is the best weapon"? But seriously, congratulations on these runs, they are fun as hell. And I have no idea about Monster Hunter but I am all in watching it if you do a video about it!
Thankyou so much for this. Was looking forward to it. Also honestly good luck with Elden ring fire pot only run. The cracked pots seem really rare. I've gone through half the game and only have 16 cracked pots. If you count all other throwable containers* might make it easier.
Keep in mind that 16 pots means you have 16 bombs PER FIGHT. You can get up to 20 cracked pots, I think 10 ritual pots, and 5 perfume vials. Some of the really high HP bosses are the only things that might be rough, but bombs have really good scaling so shouldn't be too bad really.
Yeah, it's 20 per fight + 10 rituals. A few other consumables too, darts and knives and such. In general, I'm optimistic but unsure about the viability. I think the carry limits are rough as hell, but *maybe* when optimized it could work? Hoping so.
@@elizabethk8718 yea but you need to explore alot of areas to end up with 16. Once I've finished the game I'll try a pot only run myself to see what it's like. It might be a struggle near the start with all the limitations, especially if he needs to kill wildlife for materials
My very first playthrough of Dark Souls (shortly after release), that was exactly how I beat Smough and Ornstein! Funny seeing it employed as an actual tactic in a challenge run, makes me realize just how differently players tend to approach these games now
Pulley Crossbow firing 3 shots, can sometimes poise break some bosses, on top of adding status effects. So if you’re quick, you can switch to a melee and get off a critical attack.
I haven’t bothered to test this myself, but I’ve heard that using elemental enchantment on crossbows ONLY works if you also use the corresponding elemental bolts, and vice versa.
The last 12 months have been such a great year for Dark Souls challenge content and this channel has been putting out banger after banger. Thanks for doing what you do, man. Always super entertaining and easy going stuff.
there's such an easy trick for finding priscilla, I never see anyone use it but it almost feels intentional. You just walk to the "exit", where the path gets really narrow. She will follow you there, and since that space is so small, you cant miss her even if you don't see her. But the path is still wide enough for you to be able to then roll past her back into the arena
Neat. Would love to see that kind of playthrough for DS3 though, because in my experience, that game has quite possibly the weakest crossbows in the Souls games and whilst I have seen runs, those used major glitches.
I would love to see a DS2 run like this since they are generally a fine weapon to use and the only entry to have okay crossbows. Ds3 was so close to having fun crossbows but dropped the ball
@@evinbraley im finding myself mostly underwhelmed by the crossbows, actually. yeah, the Sanctum one is awesome via its functional weapon art as a dark energy rifle, but with the stats to make that sing why not go full dark anyway beyond the understandable awesomeness of crossbows. everything ive seen about crossbows implys they caused so much trouble in earlier builds that now the majority of thems main power is as that side arm you can bring. I think what really hurts for me personally is how few things increase the damage for crossbows, no flynn's ring synergy on any ranged weapon at all, and most painfully the changes to powerstancing crossbows. is there something im missing here, as im trying to figure out how a crossbow centric playthrough should go?
I always have a ranged option ready in Dark Souls, whether it's a bow, crossbow or magic, but damn son, I sure as hell wasn't expecting these numbers from the Avelyn.
The thing with seath not being weak to lightning i think it's because the that element breaks the drangon's scales, and since seath is well, scaleless, its not afected by them
thank you lemon, i found one of ur videos 3 days ago and i’ve watched almost every dark souls video you have. never been more stuck on watching something ! thank u and please keep it up i need this content. love u
15:58 What the hell is this animation. I was not expecting something this goofy in ds1, there's so very few animations lack that seriousness that came from the exceptionally helpless mood that Darl Souls keeos over the player. Well, except maybe the stave/talisman/spell animation when you can't cast. As for the video, very fun and informative as usual Lemon, just overall solid and shows me more of a game i played all the way back when I was 11. I've watched about every video you've ever made, and I know i'm commenting this on an old video but, let's see if you're paying attention. 🎉 @TheBacklogs 🎉
Something I always found neat was that the could be upgraded down paths, meaning you could make a Divine Crossbow to keep skeletons down from the first kill.
I've never used the crossbow before, and I was actually curious about them when the "Remastest" mod mentioned them (it's a really fun mod) but I feel like the crossbows are actually just fine the way they are. gonna have to take a crack at this run myself
Glad to see a run that isn't all pain and suffering, but instead you had some good fun! Never realized how good crossbows could really be, so thanks for making this run! Might even use crossbows as a secondary to my melee characters in the future.
I don’t know how you do it, but you’re the only Soulsborne RUclipsr that has made me laugh in multiple videos. I like your sense of humor, don’t change.
While I might know the answer is yes because LobosJr did a 'Sniper Crossbow Only No Lock-On' run. I absolutely adore your video style and commentary and this is a joy to watch and listen to. Great vid!
A few notes about this run, based entirely off memory because I'm too lazy to actually google/replay the game to double check. 1) The reason your mixed damage attacks are weaker is because for one, you first used fire against enemies with a slightly higher fire resistance than usual. Also because of how mixed damage works in DS1 and 3, where in a lot of cases mixing your damage is a debuff unless your elemental damage gain is a significantly higher. This is because when you attack an enemy, your damage is targetting two different resistances. 1st is your physical damage, which has different debuffs depending on enemy resistances. For example skeletons are strong against pierce, weaker against strike, and resistant against strikes. Then you have to get through fire resistance after that, which can lead to both damage types being nerfed over all. In DS1, elements feel like they're there to add scaling to weapons that don't have them (INT and Faith) or to add bonus damage to builds that don't get it (pyromancers having bonus fire damage) DS3, mixed element weapons are equally meh by comparison of flat physical damage weapons. 2) Elemental bolts, likewise have the same issue, where they become strong however is in mixing an elemental bolt with a maxing weapon, thus making the elemental damage worth while.. maybe. Crossbows are weird. 3) Avelynne actually is really amazing at stacking statuses like poison, bleed, etc. if you can get the weapon to do that damage type. I know in DS2 you can make Avelynne stack poison, bleed, and other such statuses. When you get to doing this challenge in DS2, I hope you mess around a bit more with that game's element/status systems because Avelynne and status effects is fun. lol Then again DS2 also has the broken element system, but that matters a lot less for bows compared to typical weapons. For example you can get a Heide Knight Spear, infuse it with lightning, while it is already a inherently lightning weapon, then buff it with sunlight blade, giving it even more lightning damage. Sadly, bows cannot be buffed, so they can't abuse this stupid system.
"everyone" well guess I'm not a person then I have uh... 119 hours logged w/ mouse and keyboard? Mostly keyboard? Partly because I've never bothered to hook up a gamepad to my computer.
Take it with a grain of salt, but I’m pretty sure you can attack the crystal enemy in the Duke’s Archives cell and then bait them into accidentally hitting the snake guard, so you don’t have to punch it.
@@marcosdheleno Its called watching these challenge runs, finding what he’s legit surprised works, and do that. Not all games need an easy mode, its fun when things are difficult sometimes
The advertising hook of the video's "protagonist" getting repeatedly and violently assaulted by another character is just so funny to me, this one especially, maybe I just like the timing or the sound of the bolt cutting him off. Kudos
Your challenge runs have always impressed me, and this one inspired me to beat Elden Ring with only crossbows. To my surprise, Crossbows are actually kind of nuts. Especially when you mix Ballista bolts with Crossbow bolts. Anyways, amazing video!
I wanted to mention that I really appreciate you using they/them pronouns for Gwyndolin. It's ambiguous which pronouns they prefer, so it's the best option.
I have been running a light crossbow as my main ranged weapon to a quality build. Sure every crossbow does so much more damage. But since it shoots fast, can be used with a shield and is so lightweight makes it a great on hand side arm.
It is amazing to me how many ultra endurance RUclips content creators never mention chaffing.. it is something anyone who has done a marathon+ knows all about! Thanks for keeping it real. Followed you around the world and excited about this trip ..and ending the day with some beers was a nice way to ease back into the distance! Lol
Over quarantine, I played Dark Souls Remastered for the very first time. Turns out my brain VERY MUCH likes Dark Souls. Even with the comparatively clunky Dark Souls 1 moveset, I am REALLY good at this game. I first-tried most of the bosses, once I hit my stride. Sif, 4 kings, demon firesage, nito, even Papa Pling Pling Plong A.K.A. Gwynn Lord of Cinder all went down FIRST. TRY. And then on my next playthrough, I learned to parry. Aparrently, My brain REALLY likes Dark Souls Remastered. I hope to get enough progress on my book that I feel okay playing Dark Souls 2 and 3 soon, and I look forward to this video.
I used an Arbalest throughout my entire playthrough of DS3. It was an excellent ranged option to complement my strength build, since most bows only scaled off dexterity.
Pulley Crossbow in Elden Ring is also 3 round burst like the Avelyn, but you can craft your own ammo if you get the corresponding cookbook's. Stack status like Bleed/Scarlet Rot/Poison/Sleep/Frostbite
I know I'm 9 months late but I ALWAYS kill Smough first. Super Ornstein up close is easy too. You run to the back of the room where he doesn't have room to do his big sweeping attacks and all he'll do it the lightning butt-slam and the sit there and wait for you to slash him, rinse, repeat. It takes literally a few minutes and I've been exclusively doing it this way even back when the game came out in 2011. Beat O&S first try after hearing so much crap from my friends about how hard they were.
thanks GOD that the backlogs have good subtitles because i can watch the video while my girlfriend draws and lsiens to music at the same time DAM THANK YOU HOLY JESUS!!!!!!!!
1-Didn’t know the Avelyn even existed 2-Never used crossbows and only used bows to cheese certain enemies 3-I’m so hyped to delve back into this game a try a Crossbow build myself
On my first full playthrough of DS1, the crossbow was the only way I could deal with Smough & Orenstien: - Buy crossbow + 200 bolts - Walk backwards in circles around the arena to keep the two of them constantly lined up and chasing me - Fire at whoever was closer until 1 was gone - Do phase 2 as normal
Who'd have guessed that being able to use a weapon with super low stat costs, low ammo costs and from quite a bit of range was actually really good. This is basically just pure sorcery but with physical damage and an upgradable weapon.
Miyazaki has officially stated that he's fine with players beating the game in any way they see fit. If you _can_ do something, you can do it, he doesn't mind. I don't think item duping and deathcam skips had been discovered at the time of that interview, so take that however you wish. Another great video. I think the DS2 version of this run will be another fun one. Two words: Powerstanced Avelyns.
"Last time I checked, dispelling major image - isn't a crime" Thanks for the D&D reference! Find joy in every one I encounter in your videos) Dexterity (acrobatics) check too
I always thought it was weird how everyone sees pyromancy's lack of scaling as a positive but crossbows' lack of scaling as a negative. They both have the same strengths.
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This isn't a challenge. I always have a crossbow as a secondary weapon, and use them almost as much as my primary weapons. lol
15:13 How did you passed the glitched zombie dragon on the bridge
Since it can only stand if you do a jump attack?
In any run fists to me are always another way without breaking it.
Since its mandatory and you only used your fist i wouldnt consider that breaking the run
My Logic: Most challenge runners i watch tend to state they only use fist until they can use the weapon as long as they dont use any other weapon but the challenge weapon or fist
The thing about Seeth is that while he might be a dragon, it was less that dragons were week to lightning and more that their scales were resistant to everything else. Seeth, however, is as mentioned intro scaleless.
Seath*
@@Raoul. shut up*
What does 7 day lightning have to do with seath?
That may be true, but for his defenses in game he actually is weak to lightning. It's just that the way damage is calculated in dark souls means that split damage isn't usually as good as pure physical damage
@@thelionman09 No.
If you think about it, a punch is just a really short range crossbow, so the run is totally still valid
Both use tension in their mechanisms so...
what if he does a cross punch while bowing? wouldnt that count as a cross bow?
@@marcosdheleno technicalities for the win
@@marcosdheleno it would, yes
@@marcosdheleno You are technically correct.
The best kind of correct
Well Crossbows always allowed me to fire something one-handed, which at least left me being able to block right after firing, plus since it has no scaling and very little stat requirements, they can be used by any builds for decent overall damage when upgraded, especially those that happen to not have other means to attack from range. I always have one in my inventory.
Then there is the sniper crossbow
No
I always use pyromancy for that role as there are no start reqs other than one attunement slot
@@PonzooonTheGreat Oh yeah, that is true, I somehow forgot about that. Albeit it can get on the expensive side, it is a viable option as well.
I mean I could also say you're limited with the amount of spells, whereas the Bolts have different types of huge, humanly infinite stacks, but meh, doesn't mean one is lesser than the other for that reason, at least you don't spend souls to cast spells and they're refilled upon resting.
@@Neon_Henchman pyromancy is so broken you can 1 shot bosses at level 1
I think Lautrec had the same realization you had during your fight with him (that it was going to take forever), but with the added realization that you were probably going to win no matter what due to your strategy, so he decided it was easier to just end it all.
he was kicked off the ledge so often that he thought "screw it i´m doing it myself"
Lautrec
Let this be a lesson: crossbows have always been viable
I beat Elden Ring with a crossbow as my primary ranged option, Crepus’ specifically, worked really well
I was thinking of doing a bow/crossbow build however idk where the merchant to get the ammo for
Any tips ?
@@TheTaxSationalSir You can craft arrows and bolts if you have the right cookbook.
Almost all nomadic merchants sell basic arrows and bolts, some will sell special variants. On top of that, always be killing animals for beast bones to make custom arrows/bolts. My first character has nearly a full inventory of scarlet rot bolts
@@TheTaxSationalSir crafting is your best friend, as you can craft some decent throwables and special ammo.
"Vision abscured by what can only be described as hell itself" is such a perfect statement for a situation context nobody was prepared for.
quote is at 9:58
obscured*
I mean, you're not using a weapon to kill the snake man, so, I mean if we go by what some of the other challenge runs where you had to wait for a weapon to get (and punched until you did), I'd still call it a success. And has taught me that cross bows, may not be that bad... still prefer the regular bows though... I take it back after seeing the Avelyn. That cross bow is a machine gun.
The avelyn is the champion of the crossbow gods
The Avelyn is just 3 Crossbows glued to eachother.
@@jaredjosephsongheng372 reminds me of an old game called Enclave:
it has a double-crossbow that can fire 2 shots before reloading, and a "dwarven crossbow" that can fire EIGHT shots before reloading.
Run suggestion:
Beating Dark Souls 1 (/Remastered) with only boss drops. You can only equip things dropped by a boss (including cutting tails) or crafted from a boss soul.
(You can firebomb the Asylum Demon to get its drop if you want)
Isn't that just the weapon art video?
@@Lunarice98 This also includes shields (they are also in the weapon section in the game) and armor. (Maybe even rings)
I'd go further. You must use the last boss weapon you got. Should you get more than one option, such as you cut their tail and killed them, then you can choose which you use.
@@zehkiel8018 nice
That would be a easy run
Why don't you use the binoculars for more precise long-range aiming? Might have been able to snipe bed of chaos with it.
Also monster hunter challenge runs yes pls
I agree on monster hunter challenge runs
@@bigstacks4149 Yessssss.
@@bigstacks4149 “can you beat monster hunter world: without wanting to die when farming for decos”
iirc, sniping only works with bows, not with cross bows :
@@theabyssalone_ been there especially for bow build
I tried this run a few months ago as well. I cosplayed as John Wick and only used crossbows and punches. Yeah Nito was awful, but there were really no other problem bosses. I never realized how easy a crossbow makes the Gargoyles fight, it’s kind of insane.
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I’m glad subsequent games allow aiming while two handed. I honestly prefer crossbows to bows. They don’t get scaling, but they’re more versatile.
I “think” he would have gotten the desired effect if he infused the crossbow with Lightning, when paired with Lightning Bolts. Not sure, though. Split damage sucks in DS1, ranged or melee. The king of great infusions is DS2, where you can really focus a damage type, then apply spell buff like Sunlight Blade. DS3 is ok, but they toned down what you could do with stacking damage.
As a non-firefighter I can indeed confirm your assumption regarding what firefighters do, they indeed literally fight fires with dodge rolls, blocks and parries, while most commonly using a two handed axe doing this
EDIT: Seath not taking more damage from lightning bolts is mechanically based on how split damage works in DS1 and regarding the lore, it even works out this time, as due to the lore the only reason dragons being vulnerable to lightning is that lightning shaves of their scales, exposing their unprotected skin. As Seath (the Scaleless - hint hint hint) has no scales, the weakness of other dragons towards lightning does not apply to him ;)
reminds me of the Pyro in Team Fortress 2:
he carries a flamethrower and a fireman's "halligan tool".
he also wears a fire-retardant suit. it doesn't make him fireproof, but DOES prevent him from taking DOT effects from fire.
Ah, the memories. I used to do this run fairly regularly way back before I started speed running. I remember always having not enough souls for arrows, why I always forgot the bridge kite farm is beyond me. Probably watched gamersweekend too often. I think im gonna do one for old times sake, or at least try to. Wonder if power within will boost the damage...
Pretty sure it boosts all damage no?
I remember using the Avelyn during my DS2 run, I was cosplaying Alva and wanted to emulate his curved greatsword and crossbow style from DS3.
The Avelyn was awesome, it sucked ammo like a vacuum, but it was worth it.
DS2 Ave is so much fun, especially if you have it with a status effect.
Flashes back to power stanced mundane Avelyn builds.
Man, do you know how long I spent repressing those memories?
@@Graysett God the mundane enchantment was so stupid hahaha I still remember everyone and their mother using it in pvp
But have you tried the dreaded havelyn
@@imethdup5050 shh go back to hell demon! Nobody wants to hear your horrorstories you are scaring the children. They are still recovering from the tale of the havel hexer
Awhile back, I did a “Bloodborne” playthrough of DS1, where my only weapons were crossbows in my left hand, and whips in my right hand.
Pretty early I realized crossbows did way more damage, and then it just became a crossbow run
Did you cosplay Chester? Cause it still would have been a bloodborne run then
The Lightning Bolts work best with a Lightning Crossbow. Something about stacking the damage types…
I wondered why you could infuse crossbows if there were elemental bolts
@@shadowrosegaming3566 Ideally, there would be a different elemental bolt/arrow for each elemental crossbow/bow. I’ve always wondered why there wasn’t…
It would still probably add up to being roughly the same damage as his normal crossbow though, so just a waste of money.
@@jacobnorris8256 Wrong
All those class builds I looked for when playing Dark Souls for the first time, all those walkthroughs I watched to know what to do, all those guides I read to make my choices when going through the game, how did we all arrive to the conclusion: "Oh, this gangsta crossbow is the best weapon"?
But seriously, congratulations on these runs, they are fun as hell. And I have no idea about Monster Hunter but I am all in watching it if you do a video about it!
Thankyou so much for this. Was looking forward to it.
Also honestly good luck with Elden ring fire pot only run. The cracked pots seem really rare. I've gone through half the game and only have 16 cracked pots.
If you count all other throwable containers* might make it easier.
Keep in mind that 16 pots means you have 16 bombs PER FIGHT. You can get up to 20 cracked pots, I think 10 ritual pots, and 5 perfume vials. Some of the really high HP bosses are the only things that might be rough, but bombs have really good scaling so shouldn't be too bad really.
@@elizabethk8718 And we got pot boosting equipment gear for a change. But can't wait to see what's done.
Yeah, it's 20 per fight + 10 rituals. A few other consumables too, darts and knives and such.
In general, I'm optimistic but unsure about the viability. I think the carry limits are rough as hell, but *maybe* when optimized it could work? Hoping so.
@@elizabethk8718 yea but you need to explore alot of areas to end up with 16. Once I've finished the game I'll try a pot only run myself to see what it's like. It might be a struggle near the start with all the limitations, especially if he needs to kill wildlife for materials
@@MazeMaker4Life Doesn't the berserker Perfume AND the regular buff Perfume apply to bombs?
My very first playthrough of Dark Souls (shortly after release), that was exactly how I beat Smough and Ornstein! Funny seeing it employed as an actual tactic in a challenge run, makes me realize just how differently players tend to approach these games now
I’ve been using a crossbow in Elden ring and it has been MVP in some boss fights. Definitely one of my new favorites weapon types.
Pulley Crossbow firing 3 shots, can sometimes poise break some bosses, on top of adding status effects. So if you’re quick, you can switch to a melee and get off a critical attack.
Can you say Godfrey First Elden Lord? I absolutely clowned on that guy. I'm not even particularly good at the game either, honestly.
That sweet, sweet bleed damage on Malenia when she nukes.
I haven’t bothered to test this myself, but I’ve heard that using elemental enchantment on crossbows ONLY works if you also use the corresponding elemental bolts, and vice versa.
Thats horribly false. It simply boosts the elemental damage,not requires it
The last 12 months have been such a great year for Dark Souls challenge content and this channel has been putting out banger after banger. Thanks for doing what you do, man. Always super entertaining and easy going stuff.
I like the idea of just starting with the weapon since we all know you can punch the asylum demon to death
there's such an easy trick for finding priscilla, I never see anyone use it but it almost feels intentional. You just walk to the "exit", where the path gets really narrow. She will follow you there, and since that space is so small, you cant miss her even if you don't see her. But the path is still wide enough for you to be able to then roll past her back into the arena
Neat. Would love to see that kind of playthrough for DS3 though, because in my experience, that game has quite possibly the weakest crossbows in the Souls games and whilst I have seen runs, those used major glitches.
I would love to see a DS2 run like this since they are generally a fine weapon to use and the only entry to have okay crossbows. Ds3 was so close to having fun crossbows but dropped the ball
the dlc dark crossbows in 2 were so fun to play around
Elden ring question mark?
looking at DS2 crossbows im trying to figure how well they'd handle overall...
Yeah crossbows in Ds2 can be pretty powerful. Like the Sanctum Crossbow. Its crazy how much damage it can do
@@evinbraley im finding myself mostly underwhelmed by the crossbows, actually. yeah, the Sanctum one is awesome via its functional weapon art as a dark energy rifle, but with the stats to make that sing why not go full dark anyway beyond the understandable awesomeness of crossbows.
everything ive seen about crossbows implys they caused so much trouble in earlier builds that now the majority of thems main power is as that side arm you can bring. I think what really hurts for me personally is how few things increase the damage for crossbows, no flynn's ring synergy on any ranged weapon at all, and most painfully the changes to powerstancing crossbows. is there something im missing here, as im trying to figure out how a crossbow centric playthrough should go?
I always have a ranged option ready in Dark Souls, whether it's a bow, crossbow or magic, but damn son, I sure as hell wasn't expecting these numbers from the Avelyn.
The thing with seath not being weak to lightning i think it's because the that element breaks the drangon's scales, and since seath is well, scaleless, its not afected by them
thank you lemon, i found one of ur videos 3 days ago and i’ve watched almost every dark souls video you have. never been more stuck on watching something ! thank u and please keep it up i need this content. love u
That was surprising. Almost makes me want to do a crossbow run.
I've been doing one and has been a lot of fun but the grind is a bit boring tho
15:58
What the hell is this animation.
I was not expecting something this goofy in ds1, there's so very few animations lack that seriousness that came from the exceptionally helpless mood that Darl Souls keeos over the player. Well, except maybe the stave/talisman/spell animation when you can't cast.
As for the video, very fun and informative as usual Lemon, just overall solid and shows me more of a game i played all the way back when I was 11.
I've watched about every video you've ever made, and I know i'm commenting this on an old video but, let's see if you're paying attention.
🎉 @TheBacklogs 🎉
Starting with "A Walk in the Woods" is a nice touch. Good video as always.
Something I always found neat was that the could be upgraded down paths, meaning you could make a Divine Crossbow to keep skeletons down from the first kill.
I've never used the crossbow before, and I was actually curious about them when the "Remastest" mod mentioned them (it's a really fun mod) but I feel like the crossbows are actually just fine the way they are. gonna have to take a crack at this run myself
Glad to see a run that isn't all pain and suffering, but instead you had some good fun! Never realized how good crossbows could really be, so thanks for making this run! Might even use crossbows as a secondary to my melee characters in the future.
I remember passing shrine of amana from ds2 with avalyn in damn ng+ easily. This thing is nothing but a monster.
Been here scince 20k and man am i happy to say that with time your content only gets better
I did not expect the crossbow to be a genuinely strong weapon for Ornstein and Smough
I LOVE the Avelyn. im a hardcore fan of slings and crossbows, so to see dark souls 1 actually felt good alright with bolts is nice to hear!
If you're gonna use lightning bolts, you need to ascend your crossbow to lightning.
I don’t know how you do it, but you’re the only Soulsborne RUclipsr that has made me laugh in multiple videos. I like your sense of humor, don’t change.
Manus could've been THAT EASY!?
While I might know the answer is yes because LobosJr did a 'Sniper Crossbow Only No Lock-On' run.
I absolutely adore your video style and commentary and this is a joy to watch and listen to. Great vid!
lightning bolts are godlike with lightning avelynn. You made a regular avelynn that’s why
16:59 well yeah of course he'd leave the tree parkour. It's obviously intended. That's why there's 2 nests
A few notes about this run, based entirely off memory because I'm too lazy to actually google/replay the game to double check.
1) The reason your mixed damage attacks are weaker is because for one, you first used fire against enemies with a slightly higher fire resistance than usual. Also because of how mixed damage works in DS1 and 3, where in a lot of cases mixing your damage is a debuff unless your elemental damage gain is a significantly higher. This is because when you attack an enemy, your damage is targetting two different resistances. 1st is your physical damage, which has different debuffs depending on enemy resistances. For example skeletons are strong against pierce, weaker against strike, and resistant against strikes.
Then you have to get through fire resistance after that, which can lead to both damage types being nerfed over all. In DS1, elements feel like they're there to add scaling to weapons that don't have them (INT and Faith) or to add bonus damage to builds that don't get it (pyromancers having bonus fire damage)
DS3, mixed element weapons are equally meh by comparison of flat physical damage weapons.
2) Elemental bolts, likewise have the same issue, where they become strong however is in mixing an elemental bolt with a maxing weapon, thus making the elemental damage worth while.. maybe. Crossbows are weird.
3) Avelynne actually is really amazing at stacking statuses like poison, bleed, etc. if you can get the weapon to do that damage type. I know in DS2 you can make Avelynne stack poison, bleed, and other such statuses. When you get to doing this challenge in DS2, I hope you mess around a bit more with that game's element/status systems because Avelynne and status effects is fun. lol Then again DS2 also has the broken element system, but that matters a lot less for bows compared to typical weapons.
For example you can get a Heide Knight Spear, infuse it with lightning, while it is already a inherently lightning weapon, then buff it with sunlight blade, giving it even more lightning damage. Sadly, bows cannot be buffed, so they can't abuse this stupid system.
Your videos gave me encouragement to try my own challenge playthroughs through dark souls, Thank you for your videos!
Here's something for everyone :
Record your first two hours of Dark Souls gameplay using mouse and keyboard and watch yourself suffer
I played dark souls 1 2 3 100 achievements with mouse and keyboard
I played dark souls 1, 2, 3 100% achievements with mouse and keyboard. Ds3 is still in progress tho
"everyone" well guess I'm not a person then I have uh... 119 hours logged w/ mouse and keyboard? Mostly keyboard?
Partly because I've never bothered to hook up a gamepad to my computer.
That was not as awfully painful as I thought it'd be. Well done. Can't wait to see crossbow run for DS 2 and 3.
Take it with a grain of salt, but I’m pretty sure you can attack the crystal enemy in the Duke’s Archives cell and then bait them into accidentally hitting the snake guard, so you don’t have to punch it.
The only bad part of these videos is that there isn't enough of them.
Love them so much
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I like how he called gwyndolin them and they lol no controversy here 👍🏻 love it
That… was surprisingly simple to do. Like, shockingly straightforwards
dont you know, dark souls is a very hard game that needs an easy mode.
@@marcosdheleno Its called watching these challenge runs, finding what he’s legit surprised works, and do that.
Not all games need an easy mode, its fun when things are difficult sometimes
@@Will-mk5pj i think you missed my point, i was making a joke.
@@marcosdheleno it would appear I did
All games should have an easy mode because games should be accessible to all. If you want a challenge, play on said difficulty. Don't be a chud.
13:26 I lost over 70k souls at this bit because I didn't know you could just walk away from the one lmao
The crossbow cheese made me kill the Nameless King for the first time so they will always have a place in my heart.
The golden eye sound effects you added with the music was an amazing touch
Call me crazy, but I think you might be getting funnier! Good run!
The advertising hook of the video's "protagonist" getting repeatedly and violently assaulted by another character is just so funny to me, this one especially, maybe I just like the timing or the sound of the bolt cutting him off. Kudos
I like that with this you pretty much unlocked the hidden FPS mode of Dark Souls xD I may try that some day.
Wonderful video. I recently stumbled upon your content, and I've been binging. Great humor and presentation, thanks for all your hard work!
Impressive work. (Also, wanted to say, I always appreciated how you use they/them pronouns for gwyndolin. It’s a really cool move!👍)
Your challenge runs have always impressed me, and this one inspired me to beat Elden Ring with only crossbows. To my surprise, Crossbows are actually kind of nuts. Especially when you mix Ballista bolts with Crossbow bolts. Anyways, amazing video!
I wanted to mention that I really appreciate you using they/them pronouns for Gwyndolin. It's ambiguous which pronouns they prefer, so it's the best option.
You people are pathetic lmao. It’s a FICTIONAL CHARACTER. Who gives a shit. Even still, he’s a man so it shouldn’t be this big of a deal
I have been running a light crossbow as my main ranged weapon to a quality build. Sure every crossbow does so much more damage. But since it shoots fast, can be used with a shield and is so lightweight makes it a great on hand side arm.
14:21 I was not prepared for such a quick and abrupt joke and man did I love it.
It is amazing to me how many ultra endurance RUclips content creators never mention chaffing.. it is something anyone who has done a marathon+ knows all about! Thanks for keeping it real. Followed you around the world and excited about this trip ..and ending the day with some beers was a nice way to ease back into the distance! Lol
Over quarantine, I played Dark Souls Remastered for the very first time. Turns out my brain VERY MUCH likes Dark Souls. Even with the comparatively clunky Dark Souls 1 moveset, I am REALLY good at this game. I first-tried most of the bosses, once I hit my stride. Sif, 4 kings, demon firesage, nito, even Papa Pling Pling Plong A.K.A. Gwynn Lord of Cinder all went down FIRST. TRY. And then on my next playthrough, I learned to parry.
Aparrently, My brain REALLY likes Dark Souls Remastered. I hope to get enough progress on my book that I feel okay playing Dark Souls 2 and 3 soon, and I look forward to this video.
16:40 I think it means there is absolutely NO "intended" way to play the game, and Miyazaki just wants us to play however we want to.
I used an Arbalest throughout my entire playthrough of DS3. It was an excellent ranged option to complement my strength build, since most bows only scaled off dexterity.
Pulley Crossbow in Elden Ring is also 3 round burst like the Avelyn, but you can craft your own ammo if you get the corresponding cookbook's. Stack status like Bleed/Scarlet Rot/Poison/Sleep/Frostbite
is that a walk in the woods/ under cover of night from Halo playing at the beginning? didn't believe my ears for a second.
I know I'm 9 months late but I ALWAYS kill Smough first. Super Ornstein up close is easy too. You run to the back of the room where he doesn't have room to do his big sweeping attacks and all he'll do it the lightning butt-slam and the sit there and wait for you to slash him, rinse, repeat. It takes literally a few minutes and I've been exclusively doing it this way even back when the game came out in 2011. Beat O&S first try after hearing so much crap from my friends about how hard they were.
Did this too, loved it, one of the more interesting runs for me in terms of setting up kit, grinding, etc
I've used the crossbows on my strength builds because it provides range and elemental damage. Magic three shot, fire light, and lightening heavy
thanks GOD that the backlogs have good subtitles because i can watch the video while my girlfriend draws and lsiens to music at the same time DAM THANK YOU HOLY JESUS!!!!!!!!
Great video. I love the Conner's Bad Fur Day heist music, always a classic.
1-Didn’t know the Avelyn even existed
2-Never used crossbows and only used bows to cheese certain enemies
3-I’m so hyped to delve back into this game a try a Crossbow build myself
People always forget about the dark wood ring to make flips, to gain distance pretty quickly while having more invicibility frames. It helps a ton.
The secret easy mode to Dark Souls 1 was Hawk Ring with any bow that has long enough range. Crossbows are... not that. Well done on the run.
Really love the subtle halo 2 music in the background 🤌
Excellent video! I am very surprised you were able to get this out so quickly.
love the halo music in this video, kept the beginning super engaging
5:21 I love that.
"Just pepper from a distance and time your reload"
*Gets* *Bonked*
12:44 Dam he used the spaltoon 2 soundtrack
Also, good video
This channel is the Discovery of the month. Thank you for concise and funny delivery.
Hearing your comment about Monster hunter got me thinking, a MH:W run with only barrel bombs and meowlotovs would be super fun to watch
On my first full playthrough of DS1, the crossbow was the only way I could deal with Smough & Orenstien:
- Buy crossbow + 200 bolts
- Walk backwards in circles around the arena to keep the two of them constantly lined up and chasing me
- Fire at whoever was closer until 1 was gone
- Do phase 2 as normal
Who'd have guessed that being able to use a weapon with super low stat costs, low ammo costs and from quite a bit of range was actually really good. This is basically just pure sorcery but with physical damage and an upgradable weapon.
I have to strongly disagree, crossbows certainly do not go to the bottom of my bottomless box. They go down Frampt's mouthole.
I like how you open up the video with the song Perilous Journey from Combat Evolved, goes with the shooter aspect of the challenge.
I love your channel and your attitude mate, new sub! I have been addicted to your challenge runs, keep it up!
Greetings from Spain!
You need to make your crossbow an lightning crossbow to make good use of the lightning bolts.
Miyazaki has officially stated that he's fine with players beating the game in any way they see fit. If you _can_ do something, you can do it, he doesn't mind. I don't think item duping and deathcam skips had been discovered at the time of that interview, so take that however you wish.
Another great video. I think the DS2 version of this run will be another fun one. Two words: Powerstanced Avelyns.
"Last time I checked, dispelling major image - isn't a crime" Thanks for the D&D reference! Find joy in every one I encounter in your videos) Dexterity (acrobatics) check too
just found this channel from your enemy within with one soldier video and god damn i love your humor and editing man good job!!!
"Must attempt every boss" OH NO. PRISCILLA. Not being able to lock on with a crossbow is going to make that fight HELL.
I’d love more of these. What about a run with weapons that are related to the word moonlight ?
I always thought it was weird how everyone sees pyromancy's lack of scaling as a positive but crossbows' lack of scaling as a negative. They both have the same strengths.