FlyingIron Simulations P-38 Lightning | Full Flight Review | Microsoft Flight Simulator
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In this video, we take to the skies in the FlyingIron Simulations P-38 Lightning. We'll carry out a demonstration flight, based on real world historic aircraft documentation.
We start the flight with the aircraft on the ground, on the northern shores of Papua New Guinea - just out to the east of the former Hollandia airstrip. The flight will be run following the real world "piggyback" / demonstration flight syllabus. Some historical materials and briefings will be thrown in along the way.
The real world P-38 manual can be found here: akvictoria.by/wp-content/uploa...
Please note this video and all its contents / materials, is for entertainment / simulation purposes only.
PC Specs
MSI B550M
AMD Ryzen 7 5800x 4.7GHz
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080
32GB DDR4 3600MHz
Hardware
Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog
Saitek Pro Flight rudder pedals
HP Reverb WMR headset
TrackIR5
Earthquake Shell Shoxx transducer
Enjoy the flight! 
Игры
What are peoples thoughts on video quality - specifically, is the video any more (or less) fluid than previous content? I'm still getting some feedback regarding stutters etc in videos; I'm trying to troubleshoot what might be causing that and I have changed some settings around for this vid. Any feedback would be much appreciated.
Cheers!
The only issue I notice with video quality is the absolutely overdone flickering/dimming "vintage effect" in the intro and when showing the pages from the flight manual (example at 13:40). Made those segments extremely difficult if not painful to watch so I skipped over them although it would have been nice to spend more time viewing the content. Otherwise good performance I thought.
This one is smooth and fluid, for sure. Compared to, for example, your video on the Grob, the difference is night and day. Whatever you did, it worked.
This one seems better.
@@JG300Stoopy Agree with the idea of being more subtle with the retro effects.
No problems at all👍
I love love love that you make room for the sound of the airplane unlike many other reviewers that just blast their voice over everything
Thanks very much, DR! I figure that people are going to want to hear the sounds of the aircraft, especially during a review. I also want to make the video as immersive as I can and cranking up the engine sounds helps there as well. I really appreciate your comment; it’s always nice to hear that the little details don’t go unnoticed ; )
Many thanks again and all the best! : )
I got this plane primarily because of the good experience with the Spitfire and how their later updates on the Spit were simply excellent. They really gave me confidence in their products and even though P-38 isn’t my favorite warbird their quality with the Spit certainly tipped my decision to get this plane in their favor.
And after flying it I have enjoyed it a lot. Excellent climbout, easy ground handling as it isn’t a taildragger, steady and docile on a cruise, yet aggressive and fun in maneuvers. Especially with flaps in maneuver setting.
Overall another excellent product from Flying Irons in my opinion!
Completely agree Vograx. The Spit released in a decent state and I very much enjoyed it, but I initially saw it as a beautifully modelled bit of fun. With the excellent updates its received over the months though, it’s become a really solid effort. Not study level, but close enough in my opinion.
I was already pretty confident that FlyingIron were a developer worth supporting, but the P-38 has cemented that fact in my mind. They are clearly passionate about making quality products. They’re always very humble and engaged when taking on user feedback as well, which is incredibly refreshing in this hobby!
Like you, I find the P-38 a lovely option for cruising and I’m looking forward to seeing what the future holds for it!
All the best : )
Just in case I didn’t write that before:
This I my #1 plane on Xbox MSFS. Worth every penny.
Yeah, the P-38 is a wonderful offering Michael and must be one of the best addons currently going on the Xbox.
Glad you're enjoying it! Happy flying : )
I love the used look in the cockpit. This aircraft always reminds me of the British WW2 mosquito which was a amazing WW2 aircraft aswell.
Yes, FlyingIron have done a really nice job of getting the weathering spot on. It does have slight Mosquito vibes doesn’t it - the DCS Mossie looks beautiful, but I haven’t picked it up myself (as I know I won’t really be able to find the time to fly it).
All the best! : )
A well thought out video, beautifully executed as always - well done!
Thanks very much John! Very happy to hear that you enjoyed it once again.
Cheers! : )
Thanks for the great editing and content 👌 my backs hurting after being stuck in the back
My pleasure, thanks very much!
Haha, I guess that’s one of the many reasons why it was a young mans game! Maybe you’ll get a Purple Heart for your efforts ; )
All the best! : )
I just noticed that I'm watching this even though I do not care for warbirds and have no intention of buying this plane. Whatever you're doing, it's working.
Haha, well that’s really great to hear Marc! Happy that the review flights are enjoyable in their own right - that’s certainly what I aim to achieve. That, or I’ve just brainwashed you haha.
Cheers! All the best : )
Looks as good as your preview suggested. Glad to hear that there is room for a piggyback passenger so there is plenty of room for my overnight bag. 😎
Yep, it’s definitely another quality product from FlyingIron. Better still than the preview build and of course hopefully improving furthermore as time goes on (still a few areas needing to be tweaked).
Haha, well not only that, but there’s a luggage compartment in one of the tail boom sections - you can take the kitchen sink with you if you like! ; )
Cheers, all the best! : )
The quality is very good, well done! The frame rate is good and the voice / plane mix is perfect! The image is a bit blur in full screen (1440p) but reducing it a bit is perfect. Suggestion: I just bought the P-38 and I like it a lot. If you could indicate with your mouse which dial / switch you are looking at, that would help us to become more familiar with the procedures. Thank you again for your professionalism!
Thank you, very happy to hear it! : )
Yes, I would love to record / upload in 2K, but frankly I just don’t have the resources to do that at the moment. I agree that it looked a bit blurrier than usual; I’ve been playing around with the recording bitrate, so I’ll fiddle a little bit more and try and find a happy balance.
That’s a very valid suggestion. I used to do that a lot more in videos, but somewhere along the way I seem to have stopped. . . I will try and remember to indicate things more clearly in future vids.
Thanks again and all the best!
A really great effort from FlyingIron, I can’t wait to see what they will bring us next!
Straight from the horses mouth: F6F
@@Sir_vAce now that’s exciting news 👍
Is that so Servaas. Well that’s handy, another of my favourites! I’m sure I saw a rumour somewhere, that MILVIZ were thinking about doing an F6F as well. Could end up with two of the same aircraft again haha. Still, very much looking forward to an F6, wherever it comes from.
Thanks for the info! All the best : )
Indeed, they seem to be getting pretty good at this sort of thing!
Definitely looking forward to an F6F if that’s in the pipeline - I think we need to start subtly suggesting that a Harvard or a Chipmunk might be the way to go after that ; )
Cheers! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations could not agree more :-)
Your not a film studio don't panic. I'm here for the information rather than a slick video . I personally really enjoyed this video , your obviously very educated on aviation
Haha, well I’m certainly not looking to win an Oscar for my efforts, but I would like the videos to be the best they can be in all departments. Content is of primary importance of course, but all the better if the videos can be visually appealing as well.
Aviation and flight simulation have been lifelong passions, happy to share that on the channel where I can : )
All the best!
Very enjoyable! I especially liked the engine-failure and feathering demo. I have this aircraft, and agree Flying Iron is really going great guns. perhaps leading the sim in quality at the moment.
Thanks again John!
Quite enjoyed the flight myself, from the historical recreation perspective. Was interesting reading up ahead of time etc. FlyingIron has indeed really hit the nail on the head once again. Certainly right up there with the very best - especially given that their addons are on the lower end of the price range! Hats off to them.
Cheers, all the best! : )
excellent tutorial mate!! and many thanks!
Thank you very much, Walter! My absolute pleasure on the video, I’m really glad you found it to be of use! Cheers and all the best : )
Great stuff again and thorough review 👍. Looks like i'll have to add this to my virtual hanger at a future date ( really enjoy their Spit ), once my wallet makes a full recovery after recent spends !! ( have been purchasing some small airports for a bit of VFR flying ) .
Thanks very much, glad you enjoyed it! I’m sure you’ll enjoy the P-38, once you’ve finished paying off the mortgages on your newly purchased airfields ; )
All the best!
Very good and deep test as usual Captain, good job! ;-)
Thank you very much Lknfly, I’m really glad you enjoyed it : )
All the best!
they always forget the fluorescent Grimes lamp on the back of the pedestal yoke facing the instruments for thorough illumination.
I love this plane. Great power and maneuverability for sightseeing. Long distance range and cruising is great. 30,000' cruise putting down a 400mph ground speed you can get 1000-1500 mile range easily.
Indeed Kevin; the P-38 might not have been designed for it, but it makes for a brilliant cruising / exploring option within the sim haha. FlyingIron have also done a superb job at making the aircraft feel very immersive also.
Happy flying and all the best! : )
great review!!
Thank you very much sir! Glad you enjoyed it : )
All the best!
Hi, thank you very much.
👍 excellent review
👍 excellent plane
I am very satisfied with both.
Take care.
Haha, very happy to hear it! Thanks again, all the best : )
Really great video and editing. The only lag/stuttering I saw was during the still shots of the original manual - that may be built into the video editing software if you use 'sepia / old' settings? Flying Irons hit another home run with this aircraft, I look forward to seeing more of the few improvement opportunities being patched as they have already done with the Spitfire.
Thanks for the feedback Terry! That’s great to hear. Yes, the manual shots were intentionally like that haha, but probably a bit overdone. Unfortunately my editing software only allows for on / off with those effects.
Completely agree, another excellent effort from FlyingIron! I’m very much looking forward to seeing what the future holds for the aircraft as well.
All the best : )
Great video - thank you :-) All looked good my end - no stutters or micro stutters that I could see.
Thanks James - music to my ears haha!
Glad you enjoyed the video, hope it wasn’t too uncomfortable down the back ; )
I simply love this flight model. I picked it up a day or two ago and have not changed aircraft since purchase. It's fun to fly. Very forgiving with maneuvers and acrobatics. Simply a joy. As always nice video. I however can not get the dive flaps to work in the MSFS store purchase from Steam version of this aircraft. While on the ground doing control checks I can get the dive flaps to deploy, but once airborne and diving I could not get them to deploy down. I tried the clickable cockpit switch on the yoke as well as using the default toggle spoiler key to no avail. I have contacted flying Iron Simulations to see if this is a bug or ? I noticed you got it to work in this video however. But, I think there has been several updates since the time you listed this video. As always, thanks for the expert video review and good day to you.
Hello Travis,
Very happy to hear you’re enjoying the P-38, indeed it is another lovely aircraft from FlyingIron! I really should take another outing in the aircraft myself, when I finally get the chance. . .
I’m afraid I’m not sure what might be causing the issue with the dive brakes. I seem to recall at the time, they were simply actuated with my spoiler / speedbrake assigned button. As you suggest, I strongly suspect a previous update may have killed them unfortunately. I do hope that FlyingIron get back to you and indeed manage to get the issue sorted in the not too distant future.
My pleasure once again on the review - this was one I really enjoyed making actually, so I’m happy to hear you enjoyed it also : )
Thanks and all the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Flying Iron just got back to me and there was an issue and they have fixed it with an update they said they will be rolling out soon.
Ah that’s brilliant Travis, both that they got back to you and that the issue will be sorted. I’ve had nothing but good experiences with FlyingIron so far - I’m glad they are continuing to provide excellent product support! : )
Bought it. Thanks to your review. Next one might be the a320 or the corsair
Well I’m glad the review helped you to decide Piloto. The P-38 is an excellent addon, I do hope you’re enjoying it! : )
Happy flying and all the best!
Love it but im having issues turning the engines. Especially the right one. Read throught the manuals. Saw a bunch of videos and for the life of me i have to turn the right engine with quick engine start. So annoying! Other than that great add on. Thanks
The vague ground handling at low speed is because you have to steer with the brakes. The nose gear is just a caster and is not connected to the rudder linkage in any way.
Hi Mark,
That's a fair point, but not really what I was trying to describe at the time. Initially, the P-38 felt like its tyres weren't really "gripping up"; to say that it felt like taxiing on ice, would be a big exaggeration, but it did feel a little bit as though the aircraft wasn't entirely connected to the ground. I suspect FlyingIron probably addressed this issue a long time ago though. . .
I hope that clarifies things a little. Thanks and all the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations ah ok. Must have fixed it then. That's what I get for necroing.
Haha, not at all Mark - I probably could have explained things better in the original video ; )
Cheers!
Are you playing in VR or with some sort of IR Tracker? Love your videos btw. Subscribed today, very informative videos, if a bit long.
Yes, I’m using TrackIR for pretty much all of my videos. I love VR, but tend not to use it in my content, as I find it doesn’t generally record well.
Thanks very much! Happy to hear you’re enjoying the content - welcome aboard : )
Haha, the videos can end up running a bit long yes, but I tend to prefer a bit of a longer format and I figure people can watch as much, or as little as they please. It’s generally the startups that eat up a big chunk of time, but I like running those, because it gives a good feel as to the systems fidelity etc.
Thanks again and all the best!
i actually just realized that this is a wwii fighter with a tricycle landing gear setup! interesting, i wonder how many other airplanes of that era had that too
Indeed! There were a few others; the Americans seemed to be a bit ahead of the curve on that one generally speaking. The P-39 and the B-25 spring to mind. Of course once jets started to come in (and prop ground clearance became less of a factor) conventional landing gear started to become much less common. It certainly makes the aircraft a bit more pleasant to operate on the ground haha.
All the best! : )
Great video as usual.
But you missed a few things i think, like the flames and smoke at startup if you look at the engines, and smoke from the engines when overheating.... which you avoid by controlling the cooling manually. The oil cooler switch have a horizontal function to open manually.
Thanks Janne!
Yes, I did I’m afraid haha. I actually missed the smoke / flames altogether - didn’t see that one myself. The smoke from the overheating I did notice, but failed to mention it during the review. It’s tricky to catch everything all of the time - I’m only human after all ; )
I realise one can operate the cooling flaps manually, but I had assumed the auto function would / should take care of things?
Thanks again, glad you enjoyed the video! All the best : )
Your number 2 engine should not have been rotating when in feather. That's the point of feathering. Strange software glitch? In reality, the prop goes into feather, engaging a prop brake at around 90 degrees, which also helps prevent autorotation of the prop.
I can’t seem to hold down the primer and starter switches like you’re doing. The mouse input isn’t good enough for that and they keep popping back up
Hello Sharpe,
I’m afraid without knowing more of the specifics, I couldn’t really hazard a guess as to what the issue might be. The only thing I can think of: I use the “Legacy” cockpit interaction mode in the sim, perhaps the “Modern” interaction mode doesn’t work quite as well with the P-38 (you can change the mode in your sim settings and give things a go).
I hope that’s of some help. All the best!
beautiful modeling , I'd buy it in a heartbeat if it didnt sound like a twin engine cessna instead of twin v-12's !
Hello , cool video. Where did you found this p38 checklist please ? I have just take it and can t find a clean list on the net.
Hi Jaffa,
You can find a link to the manual in the video description : )
Happy flying!
Wished he would slow down point out each indicator for us
Hi Steve,
Apologies if the video felt a bit fast - it’s always tricky, trying to cover everything in a reasonable timeframe. When you say that you wish I had pointed out each “indicator”, what do you mean exactly (I only ask, so that I can bear things in mind for any future vids)?
Cheers and all the best! : )
Which of the FlyingIron WW II aircrafts would you recommend to get first?
Ooof, that’s a tough one rymd!
The Hellcat is probably FlyingIron’s most accomplished product to date (the flight modelling in particular feels improved), but each of their aircraft has its own unique charms and for me, it’s always hard to look past the Spitfire ; )
Frankly, they’re all excellent products, so I would simply go with whichever aircraft is your favourite. Sorry that’s not a very concrete answer, but I think it’s the best one I can give haha.
All the best! : )
Hello, where do you find the checklist of the aircraft because you follow a checklist more with more steps than the checklist given by Flyingiron. Thanks
Hi,
There’s a link to the checklist (actually it’s a P-38 manual) included within the video description : )
Hope that helps. All the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations H, thanks for the information. Have a nice day.
Excellent!!
Educational, Entertaining and detailed review. Enjoyed every minute.
Very well done aircraft - but still does not hit my sweet spot on immersion. Cockpit is closer to a Boeing regarding rattle, shake and noise than WWII twin engine fighter bomber
Thanks very much Øystein! Really glad you enjoyed it : )
Yes, I agree that some more shakes and rattles etc would add a lot to the immersion, both in terms of sounds and camera movement. Sounds would be on FlyingIrons end of course, I think think the camera effects still need work on Asobos end.
Thanks again, all the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations
Hope some day Asobo will incorporate EZCA vibration and shake addon.
Me too. I gather the XPRealistic guys are brining their program to MSFS - so that should provide what we’re after. It’s a shame that it’ll be a payware solution, but then I suppose that’s been the case in most other sims when it comes to camera effects (EZCA being a case in point). XPRealistic seems to be very well regarded, so hopefully the MSFS version will be a quality product.
Cheers!
I have read a lot on the MSFS forums about how MS has "a real spite 'again weapons" on the aircraft - how did FlyingIron get weapons on the P38?
Particularly I had read how MSFS had emasculated at least one spitfire model and there was a lot of noise about that - so I am curios about what's going on here.
Hi Jim,
It basically comes down to whether or not an addon is purchased in-sim, or from a 3rd party. Microsoft doesn’t allow the depiction of any weapons (even training munitions), if the addon is sold through the in-sim Marketplace (there is even an A-10 with its GAU-8 removed - looks kind of tragic haha), I believe this is done to keep the sim’s ESRB rating. If an addon is purchased from outside the sim however, it’s all fair game. As a result, I would always recommend that any military aircraft, warbirds etc are purchased through a 3rd party where possible.
I hope that clarifies things. All the best : )
They did a terrible job blending the startup sounds to make it sound believable. Hell, I had a better sounding P-38 in FSX with a sound pack.
I really like the startup sounds, but you’re right, the blending could indeed be better. FlyIron did a tonne of work to their Spit after it was released though (including the sounds), so I expect the best is yet to come.
All the best!
Looks amazing but I don't have the money sadly.
Ah well sorry to hear that. Maybe worth keeping an eye out over Christmas etc, perhaps FlyingIron will do a little sale or something : )
All the best!
I don't know WHEN Microsoft / Asobo will realize that it's been over a year since EVERYBODY (including real pilots like you) say that the rudder is too sensitive when we take off ...
I know, it’s really rather disappointing that nothing has been done to address the issue yet. Apparently Asobo are aware of what’s causing the problem, they just don’t seem to be making fixing it a priority. . . I find it strange that 3rd party devs don’t seem to be able to tweak it out of their flight models though. The issue must be pretty foundational in the sim.
It’s my biggest bugbear with the GA flight model. Not to mention I sound like a broken record, having to comment on it in every review haha. Fingers crossed Asobo does something about it in the not too distant future.
All the best!
Risky business bailing out of the P-38 with just one guy in the cockpit, imagine attempting it with two.
So it would seem Brian! (from what I read whilst researching for the video). I think in the scenario the manual describes (with the rear passenger flying the aircraft until the pilot is clear), it would be an academic exercise at best haha. I can’t see too many situations under which that would be a very practical process. Interesting little procedure though I thought.
All the best : )
Recently, the P-38 has undergone a huge upgrade in the MSFS SU12. You may want to 'Re-Review' it, but if you do, would it be possible to avoid inserting the advertisements that force the viewer to watch all the way through?
Personally, I am adamantly against ads of any kind, but if I had to tolerate one, I prefer those that I can click "Skip" after 5 seconds of mindless, exaggerated, product promotions, making deliberately false and impossible claims.
Even when I watch TV, I only do it with my TIVO set 30 minutes behind, so I can fast-forward through the ads, otherwise, I don't watch the program at all. Anyway, the '5-second then "Skip" ads are much preferred, if it's all the same to you.
I understand you need to make money to eat and pay bills, so this request may not be one you can accept, no worries.
Rich
Hi Rich,
I only tend to re-review an aircraft if it’s gone from zero to hero; given that the FlyingIron P-38 was excellent on release, whilst of course there have been many improvements subsequently, I don’t think it would change the outcome of the review very much (as I’m very limited on free time these days, it makes sense to move on and focus on new releases).
I take your point on the ads, nobody likes them haha, but the *vast* majority of the money I make on RUclips comes from the advertising and I already go to some effort (at cost to myself) to minimise the impact of ads on my viewers; cutting down the number of ads shown (usually by about 50%) and removing certain ad types altogether etc. It’s not that I won’t be able to afford to eat otherwise, but I do expend an awful lot of time and effort making the videos and since that means time away from the family etc, I think it’s only fair (on them as much as anything) that I have something to show for it. All of the money I earn on RUclips, either goes back into the channel, or will be saved up for a rainy day ; )
In short, I’m afraid I will have to politely decline your request, I hope you understand. Cheers and all the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations I absolutely understand on both points and commend you for it! Frankly, I can't begin to imagine the time it takes to post a well thought out, quality review as the ones you have brought. In my own opinion, they are the best I've ever seen on RUclips, (and I'm not just 'saying that').
The fact that I have tolerated unimaginable pain in a variety of formats in my 67 years means that I can certainly tolerate a few minutes of commercial babble, 😉 LOL.
I've benefited from, your reviews and have donated to Blue Simulations in the past. Regardless of the commercial interruptions, I can promise you that I will certainly continue donate, (and in the near future, in fact!).
Rich
Well that’s very kind of you to say Rich and very rewarding to hear of course! I think “well rounded” probably sums up my content quite fairly haha; there are plenty of people out there who can edit better than me, give commentary better than me, know the technical details better than I do etc, but I try my best to combine all of these things just a little and of course give honest feedback. I think it gives the videos their own little niche.
Any support is much appreciated, but please don’t feel obliged. As cheesy as it is to say, if people are enjoying the videos, that’s more than enough for me! If our evil tech overloads can throw some money my way in the process, then I think we’re all fair and square haha ; )
All the best!
I think you should be saying you are traveling at 250 Kts not 250 Mph unless you did the math 1.15 Mph = 1Kts
Hello Brian,
Is there any specific reason that you believe that to be the case? I don't recall specifically in the case of the FlyingIron P-38 (and the resolution in the video isn't quite good enough for me to see), but many (most perhaps) Lightnings had airspeed indicators that read in MPH and indeed, the pilot's notebook that we were referencing throughout the video here, gave all speeds in MPH. I could certainly be wrong though and perhaps in the case of the FlyingIron P-38, the ASI does read in knots. . .
Cheers and all the best! : )